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1jasbro
Feb 22, 2011, 10:02 pm

A question regarding Paul Johnson's Modern Times:

Several editions are combined together as the same LT work, although their subtitles clearly refer to different (albeit contemporary) time periods. Some seem to begin with 1917, and others with the 1920s; some seem to go only to the 1980s, and others extend into the '90s. I assume Johnson has revised and reissued his primary work over time, and I wonder whether the revisions are significant enough to warrant distinctions -- or insignificant enough to warrant combining.

Is anybody familiar enough with differences between these variants to advise us? Or is this something that we just need "Expressions" and "Editions" to handle?

Thanks for your help.

2EveleenM
Edited: Feb 23, 2011, 3:15 am

When there's a clear difference in the titles/subtitles like that, I'd be inclined to keep them separate.
Modern Times: The World from the Twenties to the Eighties
Modern Times Revised Edition : World from the Twenties to the Nineties
Modern Times: A History of the World from the 1920s to the Year 2000
look distinctly different.

The only mentions of 1917, on the other hand, are in other language editions,
Une histoire du monde moderne, de 1917 aux années 1980
Historia swiata (od roku 1917 do lat 90-tych)
Tiempos modernos : La historia del siglo XX desde 1917 hasta la década de los 80
so I'd be inclined to combine those by the end date, not by 1917.

That's what I would do if I was starting from scratch; however, I wouldn't start disentangling the present arrangement without more of a consensus from other combiners.

3fdholt
Feb 23, 2011, 7:55 am

#1 & 2

The books started as Twenties to Eighties and was revised to be Twenties to Nineties. So it's an edition change. On British works, it adds "history of" to the subtitle. Foreign eds. have the uniform title as Modern times but the TOC when available indicates that the content stopped in 1980. (Subtitle isn't significant to LC.)

So, it's essentially the same work with some added content in the revisions. Added content normally gets combined with the earlier editions.

What do you think?

4barney67
Feb 23, 2011, 11:23 am

Revised editions, with some added content, but essentially the same book. Keep combined. I read one edition and didn't feel the need to read the others.

5fdholt
Feb 23, 2011, 1:39 pm

#4 Good explanation - I'm also thinking that they should stay combined but with a disambiguation notice. (That is if anyone reads it - see http://www.librarything.com/topic/110755.)