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1Arctic-Stranger
I posted the latter part of this message in another thread, and decided I would cross post it here, to see if I was on target or just blowing smoke.
I spent three years working in an office where I was the only male of the 38 people on my floor, and the only male in my department. After a while the women pretty much ignored my presence, and would speak very freely in front of me. Among the things I learned:
1) A cute dog is a chick magnet than a hot car.
2) Not all hair straighteners are created equally.
3) Women talk about sex more than guys, but they aren't usually bragging.
4) They do look.
5) The sight of a guy bending over a kitchen sink doing dishes was generally agreed to be one of the most erotic things a wife would see her husband do.
6) When they say, "Asshole" they usually mean it. And once someone gets hit with the "asshole" designation, it sticks.
I used what I learned there to my advantage, and I am now in the relationship of my dreams. And the Redhead Of My Dreams would say the same thing.
I spent three years working in an office where I was the only male of the 38 people on my floor, and the only male in my department. After a while the women pretty much ignored my presence, and would speak very freely in front of me. Among the things I learned:
1) A cute dog is a chick magnet than a hot car.
2) Not all hair straighteners are created equally.
3) Women talk about sex more than guys, but they aren't usually bragging.
4) They do look.
5) The sight of a guy bending over a kitchen sink doing dishes was generally agreed to be one of the most erotic things a wife would see her husband do.
6) When they say, "Asshole" they usually mean it. And once someone gets hit with the "asshole" designation, it sticks.
I used what I learned there to my advantage, and I am now in the relationship of my dreams. And the Redhead Of My Dreams would say the same thing.
3clamairy
1) - A puppy - yes. A adult 'lapdog' - no.
2) - No experience there.
3) - Possibly.
4) - Oh yeah.
5) - Maybe not 'the most' but close to the top of the list, along with changing a loaded diaper.
6) - Abso-effing-lutely.
2) - No experience there.
3) - Possibly.
4) - Oh yeah.
5) - Maybe not 'the most' but close to the top of the list, along with changing a loaded diaper.
6) - Abso-effing-lutely.
4tardis
1) yes. (unless the car is a classic Mini)
2) no experience
3) we don't talk about it much in my circles
4) yes
5) watching my guy clean is not per se erotic, but it sure puts me in a better mood ;)
6) Damn right.
2) no experience
3) we don't talk about it much in my circles
4) yes
5) watching my guy clean is not per se erotic, but it sure puts me in a better mood ;)
6) Damn right.
6susiesharp
very true a man has never been shot while doing dishes ;)
7ExVivre
@claimary re: #1 - Probably because an adult lapdog is an indication that he plays for my team. ;)
I would also contend that a small child is a bigger chick magnet (if the mother is out of sight) than a small dog.
I would also contend that a small child is a bigger chick magnet (if the mother is out of sight) than a small dog.
8sandragon
#7 - My then 20yo nephew found that out when he lived with us. He looooved taking our young son out to the park!
9Severn
Well...in my office I work with about 30 people, but I have my own little area with my own team. There's 4 very chatty girls and 2 guys. We talk about our boobs, weight, periods sometimes. Make rude jokes. Both the guys though are in steady relationship and often have things to contribute.
As far as that list goes:
1 - meh. Never had that discussion.
2 - No experience. For me that'd be more 'all shampoos aren't created equal'
3 - yes
4 - well duh. And at other girls too, not just guys.
5 - actually, if MY husband is bending over the sink doing dishes I'm more thinking 'well, about bloody time.'
6 - Very much so.
As far as that list goes:
1 - meh. Never had that discussion.
2 - No experience. For me that'd be more 'all shampoos aren't created equal'
3 - yes
4 - well duh. And at other girls too, not just guys.
5 - actually, if MY husband is bending over the sink doing dishes I'm more thinking 'well, about bloody time.'
6 - Very much so.
10Bookmarque
ew, yuk. a child is not this chick's magnet.
as far as the rest of it goes -
1. no way, race me and you get my attention (more if you win)
2. yes
3. uh...it depends
4. yes
5. mmm...no. domestication is not sexy
6. oh yes, this is so true
as far as the rest of it goes -
1. no way, race me and you get my attention (more if you win)
2. yes
3. uh...it depends
4. yes
5. mmm...no. domestication is not sexy
6. oh yes, this is so true
11nhlsecord
A child would send me quickly in the other direction.
1. Yes
2. Don't know.
3. I've heard women brag, and those are the ones who do the most talking.
4. sure, but listening much more for signs of intelligence
5. not erotic, just gives a great sense of relief, nothing to do with sex
6. absolutely I'd mean it, but it could change if that person could change
1. Yes
2. Don't know.
3. I've heard women brag, and those are the ones who do the most talking.
4. sure, but listening much more for signs of intelligence
5. not erotic, just gives a great sense of relief, nothing to do with sex
6. absolutely I'd mean it, but it could change if that person could change
12jburlinson
I'm assuming (no pun intended) that the man in #5 is wearing his trousers and, therefore, #5 and #6 are totally unrelated to each other.
13WholeHouseLibrary
Having been is a similar circumstance...
1) That depends on the maturity of the chick. Of course, I wouldn't ~have~ a dog, and I've never had a hot car. Blame her attraction to me on #4.
2) True.
3) Absolutely, and it depends on what aspect of it.
4) They can't help themselves.
5) That, and be right about a decent wine.
6) Oh yeah! When that happens, we are ~SO~ screwed!
Nice about ROMD! MrsHouseLibrary is mine.
1) That depends on the maturity of the chick. Of course, I wouldn't ~have~ a dog, and I've never had a hot car. Blame her attraction to me on #4.
2) True.
3) Absolutely, and it depends on what aspect of it.
4) They can't help themselves.
5) That, and be right about a decent wine.
6) Oh yeah! When that happens, we are ~SO~ screwed!
Nice about ROMD! MrsHouseLibrary is mine.
14Essa
1) Neither dogs, cars, or kids are 'magnets' for me.
2) I like my curly hair to be curly, so I have no idea about hair straighteners, but it sounds true -- products of any kind are going to vary.
3) Probably.
4) Of course.
5) I'm not married, so I don't know what I would think if I were a wife. Personally, I don't get the whole American obsession with housework and such. But whatever floats people's boats. Maybe if the guy is hot, and does the dishes in the nude, I'd take notice. :) Otherwise, not so much.
6) Generally, yes.
2) I like my curly hair to be curly, so I have no idea about hair straighteners, but it sounds true -- products of any kind are going to vary.
3) Probably.
4) Of course.
5) I'm not married, so I don't know what I would think if I were a wife. Personally, I don't get the whole American obsession with housework and such. But whatever floats people's boats. Maybe if the guy is hot, and does the dishes in the nude, I'd take notice. :) Otherwise, not so much.
6) Generally, yes.
15QueenOfDenmark
1) Dog would get my attention before car but neither are magnets.
2) So very, very true.
3) No, unless you count explaining why now isn't a good time.
4) Yes but not always at the obvious.
5) No.
6) Yes.
2) So very, very true.
3) No, unless you count explaining why now isn't a good time.
4) Yes but not always at the obvious.
5) No.
6) Yes.
16littlegeek
Those all seem accurate to me.
More importantly, CONGRATS on the new relationship, Arctic. You deserve happiness.
More importantly, CONGRATS on the new relationship, Arctic. You deserve happiness.
17Arctic-Stranger
Thank you. *smiling broadly*
18MerryMary
Essa: I think it's more with American women's obsession with getting some damn help around this place.
Or so I've heard.
Or so I've heard.
19GeorgiaDawn
1) no
2) no idea
3) quite possibly
4) yes, definitely, absolutely
5) nice, but not the most erotic
6) yes, yes, and yes (just want to be clear on this one)
Fun list , Arctic!
2) no idea
3) quite possibly
4) yes, definitely, absolutely
5) nice, but not the most erotic
6) yes, yes, and yes (just want to be clear on this one)
Fun list , Arctic!
20maggie1944
I agree with GeorgiaDawn, your list is quite fun. #6 is the only one I really have much of an opinion about, and my opinion is: YES, and women to talk to each other about this issue.
21Choreocrat
I've always been the minority man among women, so I've been hearing these conversations for a long time.
In my experience:
1) The women I'm around aren't remotely attracted to cars for the most part, but are very attracted to a man dressed to the nines.
2) Not all bras are made alike.
3) Oh yes, and no one should be surprised.
4) See 3). They might notice slightly different things, but it's the same motivation.
5) I get the impression that the best bit is when you don't even see him do it. Opinion would vary greatly about whether it's better or not if he's clothed at the time.
6) Word gets around when someone's been doing assholey things. Some people have been known to misuse it to get revenge (with quite serious allegations).
In the reverse, there are male equivalents of many of these:
1) Perky boobs and curved eyelashes really aren't everything, nor is being really skinny.
2) The unspoken rules of urinal use are intricate
3) Men aren't always ready-to-go at any time.
4) Some men like snuggling.
5) Some things that can be oddly erotic: "Have a beer," enlightened commentary on sport/comics/the man's favourite topic, "I made you dinner".
6) Word gets around about which women are trouble. They gossip as much as women. The gossip is just less camp (usually).
In my experience:
1) The women I'm around aren't remotely attracted to cars for the most part, but are very attracted to a man dressed to the nines.
2) Not all bras are made alike.
3) Oh yes, and no one should be surprised.
4) See 3). They might notice slightly different things, but it's the same motivation.
5) I get the impression that the best bit is when you don't even see him do it. Opinion would vary greatly about whether it's better or not if he's clothed at the time.
6) Word gets around when someone's been doing assholey things. Some people have been known to misuse it to get revenge (with quite serious allegations).
In the reverse, there are male equivalents of many of these:
1) Perky boobs and curved eyelashes really aren't everything, nor is being really skinny.
2) The unspoken rules of urinal use are intricate
3) Men aren't always ready-to-go at any time.
4) Some men like snuggling.
5) Some things that can be oddly erotic: "Have a beer," enlightened commentary on sport/comics/the man's favourite topic, "I made you dinner".
6) Word gets around about which women are trouble. They gossip as much as women. The gossip is just less camp (usually).
22Sophie236
(1) A nice big dog in a classic car (think an old Citroen DS) would get my attention!
(2) WillSteed is dead right here.
(3) I've only ever had one female friend who talked about sex, and it got very tiring indeed ...
(4) Brains attract me more than brawn. I listen.
(5) My husband washes up more often than I do!
(6) Yes, once someone has really pissed me off, they don't get any more chances.
(2) WillSteed is dead right here.
(3) I've only ever had one female friend who talked about sex, and it got very tiring indeed ...
(4) Brains attract me more than brawn. I listen.
(5) My husband washes up more often than I do!
(6) Yes, once someone has really pissed me off, they don't get any more chances.
24Morphidae
One I learned from 20+ years of corporate work:
If a male co-worker doesn't like you, you know. He is obvious and upfront about it. He also won't do anything about it, usually. He won't talk about you and won't look at ways to "get" you. If a female co-worker doesn't like you, you don't know until you are bleeding. And you will bleed, eventually.
If a male co-worker doesn't like you, you know. He is obvious and upfront about it. He also won't do anything about it, usually. He won't talk about you and won't look at ways to "get" you. If a female co-worker doesn't like you, you don't know until you are bleeding. And you will bleed, eventually.
25DaynaRT
From this thread, I've learned that I should hand in my girl card because I may be a dude in disguise. ;-)
26Bookmarque
I feel that way a lot of the time, Dayna.
27drneutron
#21 - a couple of years ago, my son wrote an essay for English class on urinal rules. Teacher liked is so much he got to read it in class.
28bluesalamanders
25/26 - Me, too. But I knew that long before this thread :)
29cal8769
I've always said that my husband is the girl in our relationship.
Will, Bingo on #1 for me. A dressed-up man= Yummy but a nice pair of good fitting jeans are also hot. Kids, cars and dogs are cute and fun for awhile but......
We talk a lot about hair styles but not the products that we use.
Everyone looks. You have to be dead not to notice a nice looking person.
Dishes, not erotic. They suck no matter who is doing them!
I have to agree with Morphy about knowing who your friends and enemies are. You can dislike a man and he's OK with it and can still work with you. Woman are secretive and gossipy and worry too much about the whys and hows.
Will, Bingo on #1 for me. A dressed-up man= Yummy but a nice pair of good fitting jeans are also hot. Kids, cars and dogs are cute and fun for awhile but......
We talk a lot about hair styles but not the products that we use.
Everyone looks. You have to be dead not to notice a nice looking person.
Dishes, not erotic. They suck no matter who is doing them!
I have to agree with Morphy about knowing who your friends and enemies are. You can dislike a man and he's OK with it and can still work with you. Woman are secretive and gossipy and worry too much about the whys and hows.
31Arctic-Stranger
Short hand version of that--We met at the Democratic Central Committee meeting. I was in Juneau for the legislative session, and she had come down from Fairbanks for the meeting.
I had tickets to a play, and most of the other female staffers are either married, or under 30, and it felt creepy asking them out, even as a friend, since I did not know them that well. A co-worker suggested I ask the Redhead. We did have an extraordinary evening, (Play and late dinner, then she to her place, me to mine) but I thought it would be a one date thing.
I ran into her again at the Triangle (a bar mostly full of legislators and aides) two nights later and we ended up in a conversation that lasted all night long.
We both missed the Central Committee meeting the next day. (People thought it unusual that we were both sick the same day.)
She went back to Fairbanks, I stayed in Juneau another few months, until the session ended, and by the time I got back to Fairbanks, we were an item.
We started with a wonderful weekend, and that weekend has yet to end!
I had tickets to a play, and most of the other female staffers are either married, or under 30, and it felt creepy asking them out, even as a friend, since I did not know them that well. A co-worker suggested I ask the Redhead. We did have an extraordinary evening, (Play and late dinner, then she to her place, me to mine) but I thought it would be a one date thing.
I ran into her again at the Triangle (a bar mostly full of legislators and aides) two nights later and we ended up in a conversation that lasted all night long.
We both missed the Central Committee meeting the next day. (People thought it unusual that we were both sick the same day.)
She went back to Fairbanks, I stayed in Juneau another few months, until the session ended, and by the time I got back to Fairbanks, we were an item.
We started with a wonderful weekend, and that weekend has yet to end!
32Glassglue
Women definitely look. I found this out when I started working at my current job almost five years ago. Female coworkers (usually those 5-15 years my senior) would look look me in the eye, then down at the front of my pants, then back up at my face.
It took 3 events from 3 different coworkers to register what was occurring (sometimes I'm slow, I guess). Now I have to stifle a smile, and I maintain eye contact the whole time- sometimes they get that I get what they're doing and they suddenly feel awkward!
It took 3 events from 3 different coworkers to register what was occurring (sometimes I'm slow, I guess). Now I have to stifle a smile, and I maintain eye contact the whole time- sometimes they get that I get what they're doing and they suddenly feel awkward!
33bluesalamanders
Could we stop with the rampant generalizations? I thought this group was better than that.
34Bookmarque
huh? this is a fun thread...I don't see anything awful in it.
35Morphidae
I am speaking from personal experience and yes, it is all in general. Specific people can be different. That is assumed.
36Arctic-Stranger
No, I was assuming this applied to all women, in every place, at every time. All women are alike, right?
*Ducking quickly*
*Ducking quickly*
38justjukka
1) I'm a dog person
2) I truly could not care less about hair straighteners. My hair is either down or pulled back. I only use a hair dryer if I'm pressed for time and it's freezing outside (as in, icicles for hair), otherwise I leave it to dry on it's own.
3) Just like men, I'm sure it depends on the person. My friends and I drop innuendos all the time, but we're not comparing each other's "junk".
4) We have eyes to see.
5) My husband isn't a total ass-wad, so no, this isn't erotic to me. We actually share the chores, and I'm sorry if this is so rare for other women.
6) It isn't a word any of my lot or I use often (men or women, but most of my friends are men at this point in my life) so it really does mean something when we use it.
2) I truly could not care less about hair straighteners. My hair is either down or pulled back. I only use a hair dryer if I'm pressed for time and it's freezing outside (as in, icicles for hair), otherwise I leave it to dry on it's own.
3) Just like men, I'm sure it depends on the person. My friends and I drop innuendos all the time, but we're not comparing each other's "junk".
4) We have eyes to see.
5) My husband isn't a total ass-wad, so no, this isn't erotic to me. We actually share the chores, and I'm sorry if this is so rare for other women.
6) It isn't a word any of my lot or I use often (men or women, but most of my friends are men at this point in my life) so it really does mean something when we use it.
39littlegeek
I can attest to Will's rule #5 - I have found that many men find it wildly erotic that I understand the infield fly rule.
40MerryMary
I have, from time to time, inspired shock and awe by revealing that I - a 61 year old female - know the difference between a slot back and a flanker.
41DaynaRT
I taught my husband the ins and outs of football, not the other way around.
Also, lost most of my top teeth to a hockey puck while playing goalie. Husband says it was the best shot blocking he's ever seen. - he's the one who took the shot.
Also, lost most of my top teeth to a hockey puck while playing goalie. Husband says it was the best shot blocking he's ever seen. - he's the one who took the shot.
42Bookmarque
heh, I had to ride my husband's first motorcycle home because he didn't know how to. He started riding because I did.
43Morphidae
I'm pretty girly. Don't know anything about sports, don't care. Thankfully, neither does MrMorphy. Never been into cars or motorcycles.
My work has almost always been for huge corporations which are restrictive culturally when it comes to any talk that might be considered "sexual" so no co-workers, male nor female, would bring up the subject.
MrMorphy has worked in manufacturing the last few years and dang, both males and females can be very crude.
The older I get, the less my friends talk about sex. But yes, we used to talk a lot about sex.
I still look. OMG, I actually flirted! There was this fellow at a restaurant a few weeks ago at another table who was SUCH a flirt. Of course, I told MrMorphy all about it and we laughed as I fanned myself. I actually blushed!
My work has almost always been for huge corporations which are restrictive culturally when it comes to any talk that might be considered "sexual" so no co-workers, male nor female, would bring up the subject.
MrMorphy has worked in manufacturing the last few years and dang, both males and females can be very crude.
The older I get, the less my friends talk about sex. But yes, we used to talk a lot about sex.
I still look. OMG, I actually flirted! There was this fellow at a restaurant a few weeks ago at another table who was SUCH a flirt. Of course, I told MrMorphy all about it and we laughed as I fanned myself. I actually blushed!
44polaris100
1) A cute dog is a (bigger) chick magnet than a hot car.
Whatever a man drives, if he doesn’t put out in the back seat I dump him off the side of the road and he walks home.
2) Not all hair straighteners are created equally.
A branding iron from the torture dungeon will tame the most stubborn of locks. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a little improvisation with around-the-house items.
5) The sight of a guy bending over a kitchen sink doing dishes was generally agreed to be one of the most erotic things a wife would see her husband do.
If I see a man I’ve slept with “bending over” in any context, I’ll kill him. If he’s weak enough to do the dishes, I’ll kill him again. Then I’ll go to work on him.
>43 Morphidae: Blushing's for the weak.
Whatever a man drives, if he doesn’t put out in the back seat I dump him off the side of the road and he walks home.
2) Not all hair straighteners are created equally.
A branding iron from the torture dungeon will tame the most stubborn of locks. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a little improvisation with around-the-house items.
5) The sight of a guy bending over a kitchen sink doing dishes was generally agreed to be one of the most erotic things a wife would see her husband do.
If I see a man I’ve slept with “bending over” in any context, I’ll kill him. If he’s weak enough to do the dishes, I’ll kill him again. Then I’ll go to work on him.
>43 Morphidae: Blushing's for the weak.
45Choreocrat
I'm more of a girly man (despite the beard). I don't fit most of the typical things people say about men, but then just occasionally, I'll go straight down the line and surprise everyone.
46WholeHouseLibrary
You REBEL, you!
48Choreocrat
When I sported long hair, I let it curl, and it was envied by a number of my friends who longed for the natural curl it developed just above my shoulders. :)
