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1LolaWalser
Apr 2, 2011, 10:04 am

I love you! Love me back, you bitch!!

2MyopicBookworm
Apr 15, 2011, 8:31 am

Is it true that Canada's name comes from the Spanish?

(Acá nada.)

3theoria
Apr 15, 2011, 8:56 am

4Makifat
Apr 15, 2011, 9:47 am

Perhaps, for the sake of convenience, we ought to merge this thread with the one on Papal Trivia in the "Catholic Tradition" group.

I'm sure the OP is one the Pope has heard numerous times....

5LolaWalser
Apr 15, 2011, 10:12 am

#2

o, a hahaha, oh...

**get back at MyopicBookworm someday, somehow**

We are having a fourth election in seven years! My perennial votees have yet to win anything...

Even in the mayoral election, my candidate came in with like 1% of votes...

Quality rare & unusual is politically marginal!

#4

Seriously, you think Papa Ratzi ever loved anyone besides or after Fuehrer und Vaterland? And Cheeses? Whose bride, I mean, groom, I mean, bridegroom he after all vowed to be?

D'oh! OT, OT!

When will a Canadian get to be a Pope? Soon, I hope.

6DaynaRT
Apr 15, 2011, 10:18 am



Canada has bears.

7theoria
Apr 15, 2011, 10:24 am



The Pope (of Canada).

8LolaWalser
Apr 15, 2011, 10:45 am

ROTFL!!! Oh if I could promenade that jacket May 1...

Canada has bears.

It's the best thing about it! Look how cute they are with their fuzzy wide bottoms... Much more pettable than moose. I ran into a moose once on the street in Banff. I did not want to pet it, I can tell you that.

9Mr.Durick
Apr 15, 2011, 5:12 pm

Canada is the second best country, and the first is having problems.

Robert

10LolaWalser
Apr 15, 2011, 5:42 pm

Yeah, WHEN is Belgium going to shape up already?!

11urania1
Apr 15, 2011, 5:47 pm

Give me Sweden any day.
I feel unsafe in the US of A.

12marietherese
Apr 15, 2011, 5:54 pm

Norway or Finland for me. If only I wasn't such a wuss about cold weather.

13Makifat
Apr 15, 2011, 6:05 pm

It's always good to live in a country where people are so bundled up that they can't easily get into mischief.

14DaynaRT
Apr 15, 2011, 6:12 pm

I hear you can get gay married up there.

Totally unrelated, does anyone know if Ashley Judd wants to take a trip to Canada?

15Existanai
Apr 15, 2011, 6:14 pm

Canada on a good day:

16MyopicBookworm
Edited: Apr 15, 2011, 6:19 pm

#5
**get back at MyopicBookworm someday, somehow**

Only teasing. I've been to Canada and liked it. (Where else in the world but Montreal can you eat authentic Ethiopian food in the Korean quarter?) In fact, I hope to make a pilgrimage there some time, as I have discovered that my several-times-great grandfather and grandmother are probably buried in London, Ontario.

#6 Are bears Catholic? (Does the Pope......?)

#12 Finland is nice enough in summer, but I'd want to migrate south in the winter. And it's FLAT! I need hills.

#14 You don't need to go to Canada: stop off in Vermont.

17Makifat
Apr 15, 2011, 6:24 pm

15
After about 30 seconds, I got the joke.

18Existanai
Apr 15, 2011, 6:45 pm

#17. That's nothing. Wait till you see Canada on a bad day.

19Makifat
Edited: Apr 15, 2011, 8:23 pm

I hear you can get gay married up there.

Judging from that sports coat in post 7, I'd say that's probably true.

20AsYouKnow_Bob
Apr 15, 2011, 8:44 pm

Fun Fact:

Canada has a Global Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve

21Nicole_VanK
Apr 16, 2011, 3:54 am

> 13 It's always good to live in a country where people are so bundled up that they can't easily get into mischief.

Yeah, living in Holland, I must admit there is that. Still, overcrowding is getting on my nerves and I plan to retire to Ireland.

22QuentinTom
Apr 22, 2011, 6:30 am

eh?

23Sandydog1
Apr 22, 2011, 8:43 am

24Nicole_VanK
Apr 22, 2011, 9:51 am

> 13 / 21: Hold on, I misread that somehow. Shouldn't that be : "It's always good to live in a country where people are so bundled up that they can easily get into mischief."

25LolaWalser
Apr 22, 2011, 10:16 am

What I want to know is, Ireland's low on people? REALLY?!

But it rains a lot, doesn't it...

26Nicole_VanK
Edited: Apr 22, 2011, 1:02 pm

Well, compared to the Netherlands: yes.

Not exact figures, but close enough:
Ireland - 4.5 million people on 70,000 km2
Netherlands - 16.5 million people on 3,500 km2

But it rains a lot, doesn't it...

Yes, I should feel right at home in that respect.

27LolaWalser
Apr 22, 2011, 11:11 am

Well, I never! Holland's hotter'n hot cakes, it seems.

I could probably claim some deserted Adriatic island for my own. Get a couple goats and a cat for company... If only some of that Irish rain could be delivered on a regular basis, for life support.

28Existanai
Edited: May 2, 2011, 11:30 pm

Well, so much for Canada and its alleged good sense.

29Existanai
Edited: May 2, 2011, 11:30 pm

Conservatives gained seats.

30Existanai
May 2, 2011, 11:34 pm

There's a group on Facebook called I hate Canada, with 2680 members. I might finally have a reason to be on Facebook.

31AnnaClaire
May 2, 2011, 11:50 pm

>20 AsYouKnow_Bob:
Perhaps they should do a study on whether maple syrup speeds up the healing of wounds. They've already determined some kinds of honey do.

32marietherese
Edited: May 3, 2011, 12:40 am

Conservatives gained seats.

What the hell?!?

There's a group on Facebook called I hate Canada, with 2680 members. I might finally have a reason to be on Facebook.

I keep trying to convince all of my friends to emigrate to Norway or Finland with me. (I'm not even too worried about the cold anymore. If global warming keeps on keeping on, I'll soon be growing grenache and syrah there and making the Scandinavian version of Chateauneuf du Pape). You can come too! ;-)

33LolaWalser
May 3, 2011, 8:37 am

E, don't tell me you voted for the Libs!

I couldn't disagree more!!! This is SPLENDID news! Something finally moved. I hope Harper does his worst, and does it fast, relentlessly and copiously! Congrats, Mr. Harper! GO AT IT!

"MY" party is now the official opposition for the first time ever! The "third" party no more!

The Libs royally deserved to get shafted. Maybe they can now sit and think of reasons why they are not Conservatives--in name at least. And the racist morons of the Bloc are well kissed goodbye too!

O YEAH, Canada!

34Existanai
Edited: May 7, 2011, 12:00 am

Harper couldn't have done any worse, and all of those fools who voted in that fecal-brained Ford and his ilk have compounded the effect, and all this AFTER the G20 fiasco. NDP was getting our riding anyway, and it's nice they are now officially the opposition, but it's hardly a mixed bag of news - we have to put up with even more moronic 'tax-cutting' measures while funding police rampages and military bumper stickers. The Libs made themselves insignificant a while back, but this is the third election in a few years, and we are still paying out hundreds of millions for that smug, squat-faced satrap to find his way back in.

35Existanai
Edited: May 7, 2011, 12:00 am

And thanks for the offer, Marie - Châteauneuf-du-Pape is precisely what I need, and lots of it, even though I'm not much of a drinker. My last experiment with the wine was not memorable. Do you have any specific recommendations, besides the very prominent Château Beaucastel?

36LolaWalser
May 3, 2011, 1:12 pm


How about a little perspective--the Cons got 40% of the popular vote (39.6%), which makes me think that--maybe, just maybe--not even HALF the voting public in Canada are shits and morons? I've been listening to reactions all morning and I heard even some Harper voters who sounded like fairly reasonable, non-evil people.

We'll see what we'll have to put up with. I think Harper has worse in him. I hope it all comes out. As for NDP, it's huge news, hardly a question of "one riding". Nobody expected this, not about them, not about the Libs.

37Existanai
May 3, 2011, 1:19 pm

Well, I wanted them to win. I didn't expect a majority, but at least an NDP-Lib coalition.

And of course all those voters sound "reasonable" - that's their métier, the Canadian motto and existential essence: "Well, we might be mediocre, but hey, at least we aren't American!"

38Existanai
May 3, 2011, 1:26 pm

What I find most annoying of all is that, in this area, many ridings that overwhelmingly leaned Conservative are chock-full of immigrant communities. Meaning the ones who get screwed over most because they think they are saving morality and pennies on their tax return. Win-win!

39LolaWalser
May 3, 2011, 1:38 pm

#37

And that's the big difference between our outlooks (besides the fact that I basically LIKE this country, no matter what, and you basically dislike it, no matter what). I think there's lots to be said for "not being Americans". As for mediocrity, however it's defined, the Canadian variant delivered the leading economy of the industrialised countries during a worldwide crisis.

Anyway, looking at the raw votes brought to my attention some interesting-sounding outsiders--Rhinoceros? Tell me about your platform!

40LolaWalser
May 3, 2011, 1:40 pm

many ridings that overwhelmingly leaned Conservative are chock-full of immigrant communities.

Well, it's been noted oftentimes before, down South too--immigrants to North America tend to be/vote conservative. Not too many French socialists and Dutch communists seem to want to cross the pond, for some reason.

41Existanai
May 3, 2011, 2:14 pm

Rapid replies while eating lunch:

1) Stupidity transcends boundaries; if there was ever a "universal human value" that book blurbs keep dribbling about, that is it.

2) You could put a typical Canadian in a typical right-wing US 'burb and s/he would likely have an outlook correlating with their current geography. A complex phenomenon. Who is really to "blame" - if it's alright to call it blame and apportion it - social structures, the conformist instinct, traditions that have deep roots? Conversely, do the positive aspects of a region have to do with the people or something else or some combination that cannot be disentangled? Hence the immigrants that vote conservative - they're just falling back on the tropes they were familiar with in their own countries, and also trying to fit in.

3) I dislike practically every country I have lived in, but that's not very interesting. What's interesting is the reasons why I dislike a place - simplistically, what's missing in India is abundant in Canada (order, predictability, functioning civic structures or departments, overall cleanliness, a minimal degree of efficiency, convenience - all the stuff that makes daily life tolerable and should not be an issue to begin with) and what's missing in Canada is abundant in India (history, variety, directness, various other, more abstract things - i.e the stuff that lends a place character and that defines an existence outside of its mundane details.) The only country that I ever felt good about living in was Australia, but I disliked the average Australian.

42Existanai
Edited: May 7, 2011, 12:08 am

>there's lots to be said for "not being Americans"

This would be an interesting discussion, but probably one that we couldn't have here without offending a vast swath of people. Further, I remain fundamentally curious about and attached to the US in many ways, and find its culture far more engaging and - importantly for me - adventurous, something that I find almost completely lacking in the construction of Canadian identity. America's main attraction for me is that it offers possibilities, maybe for the very banal reason the population is ten times larger and this results in a qualitative as much as a quantitative difference. Perhaps all these possibilities often lead in a vulgar direction, i.e. it's always about the money or the prurience or the Church, etc. Maybe the American is an obstreperous door-to-door salesman and the Canadian a more reserved shopkeeper or 9-to-5er. But at least these possibilities are there. In Canada it's as if the reason for and the routines of existence are one and the same; the roles have been resolved for you, and all you have to do is fulfill them.

Of course, all this is rather facetious...

43LolaWalser
May 3, 2011, 5:54 pm

Possibilities? But America hasn't offered you the possibility of moving there, and Canada did. It's very easy to estimate the lawn greener on the other side, and very easy to lose this crucial difference from view.

As for praising American adventurousness etc.--well, I don't know what that would be, perhaps it simply looks like something different once you get a taste of living there. Sure--you could begin by having an adventure of sorts if you were willing to pole-vault the border like the Mexicans, or forgot to leave when the tourist visa expires. From then on, it's nothing but adventure!

I couldn't speak to the construction of Canadian identity. For one thing, the modern country is barely a century old, and within that short time it never stopped changing its ethnic and national makeup. Canada is interesting to me like America never was, because it is constantly self-interrogating, constantly shifting, willing to change, willing to think it is changeable and improvable. There is an open-endedness to its culture, and that to me is the real adventure. And I LIKE the modesty of the Canadian stereotype, it is both more human and more humane than the deadly vainglorious self-satisfaction of the Kings of the World.

Anyway, I'd rather not continue with this conversation--as you say, one falls inevitably into dumbest generalisations and abstractions.

So, overall, bad results, but interesting, much fight ahead, and at least we know whose fault all the crap in the next four years it's gonna be! ;)

44Existanai
Edited: May 7, 2011, 12:09 am

>America hasn't offered you the possibility of moving there, and Canada did.

Before I moved here I had the option of going to the US, but I did not take it, for various reasons.

>perhaps it simply looks like something different once you get a taste of living there... Anyway, I'd rather not continue with this conversation--as you say, one falls inevitably into dumbest generalisations and abstractions.

Sure, it is silly to extrapolate from brief visits, but what it comes down to, for me, is that I grew up with and am frequently exposed to American and British culture (not without their own antagonisms) whereas Canada barely figures in my consciousness and I could just as well be held over at an airport with its superficial cosmopolitanism, the convenience of its set-up, and its mildly escapist but soon generic and wearisome attractions.

45madpoet
May 5, 2011, 1:09 am

>39 LolaWalser: Great table! That's what I love about Canada: plurality! Americans have two parties, while we have so many. Good to see the Rhinoceros Party hanging in there- they've been around since I was a kid. They almost won a seat in the '80s. Never heard of the Pirate Party, though. Gee, now I wish I'd registered- but it's too much hassle when you're living overseas. I would've voted 'Radical Marijuana'.

46AsYouKnow_Bob
Edited: Jun 7, 2011, 7:06 pm

More pro-Canada news: a vaguely right-wing blog/think tank has listed The Happiest Countries in the World: and Canada ranks #2 (behind Denmark).

47LolaWalser
Jun 7, 2011, 7:12 pm

Denmark! Excellent butter! Best butter in the world. Thinking of Danish butter makes me happy!

48SilentInAWay
Jun 7, 2011, 7:27 pm

Danish Butter? See how little it takes to make a Canadian happy!

49LolaWalser
Jun 7, 2011, 7:28 pm

:)))

50AsYouKnow_Bob
Jul 1, 2011, 7:16 pm

Happy Canada Day, neighbors!

Best Version Ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXaIAQjbD6I

(Fun Fact: The original is the French, it's the ENGLISH that's the translation.)

51MyopicBookworm
Jul 2, 2011, 9:11 am

Inspiring: and I'm not even Canadian.

52LolaWalser
Jul 2, 2011, 2:16 pm

Thankee!

Makes you wonder about the special nation-forging properties of July...

53LolaWalser
Aug 23, 2011, 4:16 pm

Goodbye, Jack, and thanks for all the fish.

54LolaWalser
Dec 21, 2012, 10:45 am

Nine years here, and I've yet to kiss a born-&-raised Canadian that way.

55LolaWalser
Jan 7, 2014, 6:59 pm

I have frost... INSIDE MY APARTMENT!!!!

***speechless with outrage***

56QuentinTom
Jan 7, 2014, 7:58 pm

OMG! Lola, are you there?

57LolaWalser
Jan 8, 2014, 1:11 pm

Heh, I'm here somewhere.

The white plague turned into water. At some point I'll have to shift a couple tons of books--AGAIN!--and see what's going on, if anything, behind them.

Do your worst, Great North! Send me your seals and werewolves, I'll feast on their blubber!

58MyopicBookworm
Jan 8, 2014, 6:31 pm

It sounds as though you might need the blubber for heating your apartment.

59LolaWalser
Jan 8, 2014, 7:03 pm

I could move into a whale!

60AsYouKnow_Bob
Edited: Jan 8, 2014, 9:21 pm

Life in a Northern Town:

"..."In winter 1963
It felt like the world would freeze..."

I have frost... INSIDE MY APARTMENT!!!!

***speechless with outrage***


As a native of this corner of the planet, part of me wants to say: HA!

Frost on a window? One winter in college we were chipping ice out of a sink.

61theoria
Jan 8, 2014, 9:28 pm

If you see a tauntaun, crawl inside it.

62LolaWalser
Edited: Jan 8, 2014, 9:34 pm

Yeah, yeah, you win. You snow people fill me with awe.

Very nice song and vid!

#61

If I see one! *crossing fingers*

63AsYouKnow_Bob
Edited: Jan 8, 2014, 9:35 pm

Archie Ammons, Tape for the Turn of the Year:

anybody doesn't believe in
reality should
try to start a dead car
on a 10-degree
morning


64LolaWalser
Edited: Jun 14, 2014, 7:03 pm

Just about every time I feel my relationship with Toronto is in the doldrums, something like this happens:

Naked cyclists streaking across Toronto

I was on the bus this morning, nose buried in book, when something made me look up and I saw 40-50 buck naked people on bicycles roll past the window.

Made me unaccountably happy. About half men, half women. Quite a few rainbows.

Up yours, women-wrapping soul-crushing puritanical beasts, Iran, Saudi, the Vatican and the rest, forever and ever.

This is about where I met them!

https://twitter.com/starradiobox/status/477901176521117696/photo/1

66LolaWalser
Jul 1, 2014, 10:51 am

9 out of a possible 10

Impressive! You’ve got a very strong grasp of Canada for a foreigner. Or else a passable knowledge of your own country for a Canadian. Either way, well done. Go get some poutine to celebrate.


I shall have poutine when it's made of Putin!

67theoria
Jul 1, 2014, 10:54 am

5 out of a possible 10.

Naturally, I'm pouting. No Putin poutine for moi.

68QuentinTom
Jul 1, 2014, 11:24 am

eh? 3 out of a possible 10

Oh dear, oh dear. You probably can’t even find Canada on a map. Get to the “washroom” – that’s Canadian for toilets – and have yourself a little cry. (Or just go and read a bit about Canada.)

how embarrasing.

Go Naked Canada!

69LolaWalser
Jul 1, 2014, 11:28 am

Yes!

70LolaWalser
Jul 1, 2014, 1:13 pm

My riding went Liberal yesterday. A pact with the devil, if it will help us get rid of Harper.

71AsYouKnow_Bob
Edited: Jul 1, 2014, 6:41 pm

9 out of a possible 10

Impressive! You’ve got a very strong grasp of Canada for a foreigner.


I live only a couple of hours from the border; one of the sad developments of the 21st century is that Canada has become drastically less accessible for us.

(E.g., when I was young, no one thought anything of ducking across the border JUST to get a better view of Niagara Falls. I'm pretty sure I did this at an age when I didn't even OWN any identification. I'm certain I did it on my old non-photo driver's license.)

72varielle
Jul 1, 2014, 8:33 pm

I only got 6, and to think I used to be married to a Canadian.

73LolaWalser
Feb 15, 2015, 12:14 pm

MONTREAL - Three in four Canadians are proud to fly the Maple Leaf and nearly eight in ten believe Canada is the best country in the world, says a new poll.

What, "best"? Such superlatives are un-Canadian excess. :)

But you're okay, Maple-land!

74theoria
Feb 15, 2015, 1:22 pm

Canada has the best flag. As an American, I can say that.

75LolaWalser
Feb 15, 2015, 1:44 pm

You're strangely likeable, for an American. ;)

I SHALL SEND YOU SYRUP

76theoria
Feb 15, 2015, 2:04 pm

The Syrup! Send send send!

77LolaWalser
Oct 20, 2015, 9:23 am

And good morning to YOU, Canada! The blackbird has spoken!

On the upside: Skeevy Stevie PM no mo', the Cons well and truly trounced.

On the downside: enter Conservatives-lite, all suit and no brains nor heart.

And, NDP lost Toronto/Ontario for the foreseeable future... I can go back to voting my marxist-leninist conscience...

78Jenni_Canuck
Nov 10, 2015, 11:03 am

>77 LolaWalser: At first, I felt bittersweet about the results. Now, I'm just bitter.

79LolaWalser
Nov 11, 2015, 10:44 am

People got really scared.

80LolaWalser
Jun 7, 2018, 11:33 pm

:(

81LolaWalser
Jun 7, 2018, 11:33 pm

BUT WE GOT LEGAL MARYJANE

to see us thru the nightmare

82QuentinTom
Jun 7, 2018, 11:35 pm

better than nothing la innit!

83LolaWalser
Jun 7, 2018, 11:43 pm

the fascists can't take my smile away

My riding is ridiculously red (i.e. orange) but no use... the great unwashed pricks want their tax cuts.

84theoria
Jun 8, 2018, 12:05 am

Got my bong packed and heading north!

85LolaWalser
Jun 8, 2018, 9:18 am

hoooraaaaay

exchange scary tragedy for scary comedy, come watch Doug Ford put the hogs back in Hogtown, swilling on 1-dollar beer

they've no one to fuck except environment, kids and the minimum wage working ants

so machooooo

Let's make Ontario fart again!!!

86RossHartyGothi
Edited: Jun 8, 2018, 2:07 pm

@MyopicBookworm Post #2
I have seen two theories as to the naming of Canada. . I tend to side with the Iroquoian word for village, Kanata.
There is also a theory that Spanish or Portuguese explorers, were unable to find gold and silver, and said the phrase that you have listed. Yellowkife is named after its abundance of precious metal.

The Third of many theories is that Two brothers named Douglas, and Robert Mackenzie had pulled off their toques, and placed some scrabble tiles into them. As Robert removed the tiles Douglas recorded the findings. and these are "C -eh!", "N -eh!", and "D-eh!" The third is a highly plausible theory if you study Canadian culture.

87MyopicBookworm
Jun 12, 2018, 5:03 pm

Well there you are. Many a true(-ish) word spoken in jest.

88LolaWalser
Jun 17, 2019, 6:07 pm

Congrats on the basketball thingy to the best country in North America!

89varielle
Jun 18, 2019, 11:35 am

Indeed, it was probably Americans who messed up the party.