Ape's 2013 Challenge (2)

Thread #1 (Book 1)

Books read: 2
Pages read: 802

January:
1. Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond
2. The Second Opinion by Michael Palmer

*peeks careful around the open door* Am, I too early?

Or, is lunch ready?

Crazy Lady #2 reporting for duty.
Uh oh, Stephen, looks like it's just you and the women in straight jackets...that must be uncomfortable for you.

What in the world are you doing starting threads at 6:30 in the morning? I will never understand people who are willingly awake at that hour. If I didn't HAVE to be awake, I'd still be happily in bed.

Ah, 5:20 am here, and well my excuse is that I go to bed very early, and fall straight to sleep. Must be tired. Nine hours later, I'm up and the dogs want their food. That is my story. And it does not change all that much from morning to morning.

Stephen, congrats and thread #2! I am spending much less time reading threads and using it to read books. New Year, you know.

We've messed with his thread. Now he'll whine at us about using up all his first posts where his stats and book lists are supposed to go.

Poor Stevie. The girls are so mean to him. *hugs*

Oh well. Too late to go back. Morning!!

Bianca: Don't worry! I put everything in the first post, so the 2nd post is always safe. :)

Amber: Well, I'm just about always uncomfortable, but I suppose it would be true that I am rather...uncomfortabler.

Leah: I'm an early bird, for sure. I tend to be in bed by 10-ish, and I'm usually up around 5-6am or so. I don't get any more or less sleep than anyone, I just go to be earlier.

Karen: I'm the same way about falling straight sleep, so that probably helps.

Morphy: Nonsense. And besides, I wouldn't whine, I would just stink-bomb your houses and set fire to your bushes. :P

Nora: Awwwww, thanks. And here I thought you were still mad at me.

Hi Kim! :)

>7 norabelle414: When was I mad at you? What did you do?

*Hides Nora's broken lamp behind his back* I'm sorry, what?

I am decidedly NOT a morning person, so a career in farming was a HUGE mistake. I have a hard time falling asleep- I'm usually still awake at 1 or 2AM, sometimes until 4AM- so now that I get up at 6AM on weekdays it equates to very little actual sleep. Weekends I sleep until I wake up which is almost never before 10AM. It's my reward for not blowing up the world in anger of mornings.

Haha, yeah, I was thinking that when you first posted, a farmer that is not a morning person is an interesting combination. :P

I would not make a good farmer either! I have the dogs trained to sleep as late as me and we rarely have breakfast before 10am!

I'm eating lunch at 10am sometimes...

I'm eating breakfast at 2PM sometimes. Mostly because I woke up at 10 and then forgot that I needed food. It happens.

My sister was always the same way. During summer breaks when we were both in school/lived in the same house, it was common for me to be eating lunch while she was eating breakfast.

Yeah, I forget to eat and sleep sometimes too. Rachel and I have a system, though. She sleeps and I eat enough for both of us.

Oh dear! Bob Rachel's Dad is here, I am so doomed...

>18 patito-de-hule: I do sleep enough for the both of us, but I'm pretty sure I eat, too. :p

New thread already?! Must be all those ravenous fangirls chewing up the posts. ;)

I guess you are true to your screen name, Rachel! :)

Micky: Well, so long as it's the posts they are chewing on. *Puts on earmuffs just in case*

It's more than her nickname. She got her PhD in hibernation.

Checking in on the new thread, Stephen!

*waves to Stephen*

Wait. 24 posts and nothing vulgar, or nasty, or zombie-ish? I must be in the wrong place.

*backs out slowly*

Bob: Yeah, and now I undestand why. Some sort of kinship, perhaps?

Actually, I think it makes perfect sense that you require so much sleep to feel functional during the day, Rachel. At our meetup you seemed very energetic, in a general sense. Unless I'm just comparing you to my sloth-like demeanor.

Hi Stasia!

Terri: Yeah, all the vulgar nasty zombie-ish people are slow in visiting this thread, I guess. ;)

*lurking*

*Waves*

I'm a night person. My job requires me to be a morning person. As a result, I'm a constantly tired person. When the zombie apocalypse starts, I think I'll be Patient Zero.

(morning)

:) Yeah, if I get enough sleep I'm generally pretty cheerful and energetic.

Do you HAVE to be a morning person as a farmer? Or is it just that it's a common experience? I mean, can the cows get used to being milked at say 10am instead?

*giggle* very interesting..... early morning birds........ night owls.........hibernation........sleeping..............I need a lot of sleep, I am not an early morning person.

Stephen, I completely forgot about the time difference. So, when it's lunchtime here it's only about 06.00 am where you are *shudder* that's IMO the middle of the night.

Morphy - why not? you can teach dogs to become *ahem* late goers. Is it not so that cows need to be milked twice a day? So, maybe if you do it later at night, you may could do it later in the morning?

Hmmm...interesting question about cow's sleeping patterns and when they need to be milked. Only on Stephen's thread... ;-)

It really depends on WHAT you are farming and HOW. Since I'm just feeding pigs and chickens and meat cows and horses, they can wait until I get up, which is how I manage it on the weekends. If my chickens or pigs had to be closed up each night, I'd have to be up before dawn to let them out since they need to be out eating grass and foraging as soon as possible (because I believe that animals should eat what they were designed to eat and because it keeps my supplemental feed costs down). No matter how hungry they are, chickens go to bed at dusk because most of the bad things that eat them come out then.

If I was milking cows in a traditional operation where you take the calves away, cows HAVE to be milked at the same time twice a day but not necessarily at 5am. If they go longer than 12 hours or so they risk all kinds of problems. If you are milking in a cow/calf operation where the calves stay with their mothers then you can milk once a day really at any time you want, so long as it's around the same time of day (and you have to calculate when that time is based on the cows milk production and when the calves seem to feed the most).

If my beef cows were on a more management intensive grazing rotation (which they will be back on when I'm full time on the farm again), then I'd have to be up before dawn to move them from paddock A to paddock B to get them onto fresh feed after a whole night of standing around pooping on their salad bar. ;)

Tom: !!!! Haven't seen you in forever, I guess I need to find your thread. Do you plan on posting in it this year? :P

Rachel: Hmmm, I think I'm sloth-like regardless of how much sleep I get.

Morphy/Leah: I always thought the 'morning stereotype' had to do with getting as much work done during the day as possible, because farming is made more difficult when you can't see anything. *Shrug*

Bianca: Haha, yeah, and it's probably worse for those west of me. I'm sure I am waking up as some of the night owls to the west are just going to sleep.

Donna: I wouldn't have it any other way! :)

I tend more towards the "morning person" end of the spectrum but really I'm not entirely with it until I have breakfast. Then I'm all kinds of peppy. Which is why I do things like this: *hugs Stephen*

>36 MickyFine: Breakfast is the beeeeeest.

*group hug with Micky and Stephen*

*group hug!*

Stephen! Not only do I have a thread but I've already posted in it five times. Five! It's a New Year miracle!

*lurking, trying not to lose thread*

*Blushes and tries not to faint at being swarmed by lovely bookish ladies* I'm okay I'm okay I'm okay I'm okay...

Tom: Okay, I really am going to go look for it, right now!

*Waves at Katie*

Well, I have fantastic news. I just got through the obligatory sex scene in the mystery novel I'm reading. I decided it would be the last chapter I would read tonight before I started it, and without knowing it contained a sex scene. Why is that fantastic news? Well, because had I stopped a chapter sooner, I would have read the depressing sex scene early in the morning tomorrow and spent the ENTIRE DAY in a morbid melancholic mood, and now I only need to be so for a few hours. Hurray.

She even expressed amazement at his enormous cock. Oh wait "impressive" was the word, and I'm sure it was less vulgar. *Shrug* Either way...

*Considers going to bed at 6:45pm*

No Comment.

I don't blame you.

Hi Stephen! How're things going in Ohio lately? Things here in Wisconsin are okay, I guess. Most of the snow is gone :( courtesy of temps in the high 30's, but it feels kinda nice outside.

I'm not really a morning person myself, but one of my cats, Chico, has decided that he wants attention somewhere around 5 to 6:30 AM so he wakes me up by quietly talking or purring and quickly ramping up to shoving things off of my nightstand and stepping on my throat and/or eyeball and/or face. *sigh* I'm becoming a morning person against my will. Normally if I can get to bed between 11pm and 2 am and get up anywhere between 7 and 9, that's perfect, but that's hard to get these days. *shrug* Oh well.

Okay, off to mosey through some more threads. I haven't even gone through the new groups yet to find people I know, but maybe in a couple of days? Meh, whatever.

I hate mornings.... but that is probably because it is the only time during the day that I feel kind of constructive... and I'm usually a lazy person... so being kind of constructive makes me sad...

I am not a morning person at all! I go to bed about the time most people are getting up.

Laura: Your snow is almost gone? Even with these warm temperatures, ours is still hanging around. I suppose 14 inches takes awhile to melt...

I'm definitely a morning person and then by the time 8:30 rolls around I'm, as my dad would say, plumb tuckered.

I rather dislike mourning myself.

Stephen, couldn't you skip over the sex parts? Or would that make you even more twitchy?

I'm not a morning person or a mourning person either. I like my night time a little too much to give it up, even when I know I have to get up early. Especially when I know I have to get up early.

Hello Stephen - mostly I have just lurked in the company of you and your posters, being overwhelmed by the general high levels of wit and banter. But seeing as all you seem to be discussing is farming...well, I'm a farmer's daughter, so I thought I'd say 'hi'. **hi**

>41 Ape: Aww, poor Stephen. Not sure hugs will make this better. I'll give you a rain cheque for a hug to be cashed when needed.

I do not fathom how y'all can eat as soon as you get up. *shudder* Coffee. Only coffee. Food later.

Morning, Stephen.

Laura: Yeah, our snow as melted off over the past few days for the most part, but I live in a valley surrounded by hills and trees so the snow tends to stick around a bit longer than in most places.

Jennifer: I'm also very prductive in the mornings, and do very little after, say, 2pm. :)

Stasia: I didn't know robots slept...

Bob: That is understandable. I try not to be critical of other people's tastes, but I just can't wrap my head aroung mourning sex. Yick!

Kathy: I don't know they are coming until they are already there, so skipping is difficult. Plus it's not so much the physical sex that bothers me. I'm not bashful, I've just struggled with depression, social anxiety, and general loneliness for several years now, and it's degraded to the point where just about anything can send me into a whirlwind of self-loathing. =/

Hi Prue! Nice to see you here. I've seen you around, but I don't think I've ever made it to your thread. A farmer's daughter, hm? I like farmer's daughters! Errrr, that is to say, ummmm, I hear farmer's daughters are very...ummmm, polite. *Ahem*

Micky: I think most would say that the problem is I need quite a bit more than a hug. *Rolls eyes* But yes, an e-hug would be nice. :)

Hi Richard. I tend to eat directly after waking, and I have no issue eating leftover things that most people can't imagine eating early in the morning. A few days ago I re-heated a leftover pork chop at about 6am, for example...

I'm up at 5:30am, am awake and alert with no coffee or other stimulant, and eat breakfast by 6am.

Please don't hate me.

Oh yes, I forgot to mention that, Morphy. I don't drink Coffee either. I'm awake at 5:30 and the only times I've ever drank coffee in my life were more around noonish and purely for the pleasure of it. And by 'pleasure' I mean 'displeasure' because I'm not terribly fond of the stuff.

My bedroom has a HUGE eastern-facing window, so no matter what I always wake up 15-20 minutes after sunrise. I'm excited for the 10-or-so days per year when that time coincides with when I am actually supposed to wake up.

I guess I'm lucky in that the bedroom's only window faces west. That is, if I didn't already wake up before the sun rises.

No coffee. Huh.
I wake up around 5:45, stumble into the kitchen to pour a cup of coffee and take it back to bed with me where I start my day's reading while sipping on that wake-me-up magic brew.

Coffee isn't, for me, a magic wakefulness brew so much as a way to have a hot, milky slurp of delicious fragrant yumminess. Or black, depending on the mood. No sugar, however, as sweet drinks up to and including wine aren't my favorite things.

I'm not fully ready for the day until coffee is underway. Awake yes, alert yes, but ready to talk and even converse? Only if you want to talk about the manner of your slow, excruciating death.

Yeah, I've been told I'm "weird" for not needing coffee. I guess it's good that I never gave in to peer pressure as a teen and started drinking it when I was energetic, as I never developed a dependency on it. The same is true for cigarettes, alcohol, and human relationships. :P

Richard: Well that sounds fun, lets talk about that! :D

The only way I can drink coffee is if it is composed of 10 percent coffee, and 90 percent milk, cream, sugar, and/or chocolate.

Oops wrong thing before...this seems a propos.

Every time you post a picture I get nervous while it is loading, but I must say that one really does look quite tasty. :P

I don't need coffee in the morning, either. And when I do very occasionally drink it, it must be accompanied by cake or pie of some kind (or cookies, which get dunked), or sometimes I fill a coffee mug with vanilla ice cream and then pour coffee over that. Yum.

Richard: Lovely photo!

Oooooh, vanilla ice cream sounds like a good idea...

I don't drink coffee, hot drinks in general have always made me thirsty. I am desperately trying to (once and for all) kick this diet soda addiction though. I normally consume at least 3 before noon, and more after that.

Don't let Richard hear that! He's been giving me hassle just for drinking 1 Coke per day.

I still have some, by the way. My mom has turned into a pusher of sorts. But I have stuck to just drinking 1 per day, so it's still an improvement.

I read that scientists have established that humans with circadian-rhythm type AA or AG tend to die just before 11:00 A.M., whereas type GG's tend to die just before 6:00 PM.

see Harper's Magazine / February, 2013 p.88

Yes, it's fascinating really, I've just read a little bit about that. Did the article mention the exact percentages though?

Of course not. I just thought it went well with the discussion about morning people and the other kind.

Have you ever read the last page of Harper's magazine? The current issue isn't on the internet yet, but here's an example from last year:

A blond (isabellinistic) chinstrap penguin was observed in Antarctica.

I definitely don't drink coffee. I enjoy the smell of it but caffeine keeps me buzzed for anywhere between 10 and 12 hours which can really mess with the sleep schedule.

>56 Ape: And by 'pleasure' I mean 'displeasure' because I'm not terribly fond of the stuff.
lol
I live on the stuff. And by live on I mean LIVE ON :)

>72 MickyFine: Me too! I looooooooooove coffee but I have to quit drinking it at noon.

Oh yeah, NEVER after noon.

Bob: I see. But you can't possibly tease my curiosity with such a tantalizing piece of information and then just leave me hanging.

I just did some Googling around and the most consistent number I'm finding is 14 percent. I'm skeptical of percentages in science, because percentages are very easy to skew in one's favor.

For example: If everyone died around the clock equally, 4.1 percent of people would die each hour. If a literal 14 percent more died at 11am, that would be more than tree times as many at that particular time. However, 3 times more likely is not the same thing as 14 percent, because it's 300 percent.

More likely the average percentage of death per hous is 4.1, but the percentages of 11am deaths go up to 5.6 percent. This is a 14 percent increase, but I don't find it a very significant change, especially considering the 4.1 is an average, and the raw numbers would contain variables that would probably fluctuate close to 5.6 naturally.

So...I don't know. Rachel and Nora disagree, but I tend to consider small percentages such as this as not terribly noteworthy. I mean, hey, if people want to spend their lives proving you are .1 times more likely to die at a specific time of the day then more power to them! But they probably won't convince me to care. :P

ETA: Oh, and unfortunately I can't load the link on my hamster-wheel internet. I'm still stuck in the stone age with dial-up internet in my area.

Micky: I'm the same way with the smell! It certainly smells nice, it's too bad it doesn't taste like it smells though. Hmmmm, I don't know, I think a buzzy Micky sounds...entertaining.

Megan: Capital bolded letters...are you drinking some right now? ;)

Nora/Ellen: The few times that I have had any have been later in the day, actually. I know, I'm an alien or something.

>76 Ape: It's not that small percentages are always significant, it's that there are very specific, relatively simple calculations you can use to determine whether the small percentages are significant or not. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_significance

>77 Ape: The few times that I have had any have been later in the day
You're doing it wrong.

I'm not doing it wrong, I'm just doing it unconventionally. :P

>76 Ape: I'm sorry you couldn't open my link. That means you missed not only the blond penguins of Antartica, but also non-native pacu fish in Papua New Guinea that were biting off men’s scrota.

I'm a coffee person, fo' sho', and can drink it at any time of day or night. I don't have coffee daily, but if it's been a few days I will make a pot for myself. Cream and sugar (or most usually, flavored creamer) are a requirement for this gal. Speaking of, it's been over a month since I've had a latte and now I really really really really want one. Crap.

Bob: This is exactly why I almost never introduce pacu fish to my scrotum.

Laura: Haha, sorry! I have a tendency to induce bad food cravings, don't I?

(shudders @ the coffee talk) Can't stand the stuff, but I need caffeine to wake up; otherwise, I fall back asleep, don't get to work on time, get fired, become a bum, etc etc. So caffeine's a necessity.

And there's nothing wrong with eating breakfast as soon as you get up (but really, a pork chop, Stephen? lol). I do it (eat breakfast, that is; not Stephen's leftover pork chops). In fact, most of the articles I read on the subject insist that people eat breakfast to avoid overeating later on in the day, help maintain alertness (though I think caffeine does a better job at that, imho), etc. Don't know how true that all is; it's just what I've read.

Interesting coffee conversation!
I am a big tea drinker but I love to have a coffee sometimes. Doesn't matter what time of day though, I can drink a coffee right before bed and still sleep the same. My husband can't though. Poor guy goes through coffee withdrawals

>83 saraslibrary: People in the southern US eat pork chops for breakfast all the time. On biscuits. Yummmm. It's like bacon, only WAY healthier.

All the time? Lol. But yeah, it's... available. I think it's nasty to eat ANYTHING when I first get up. Makes me barfy.

>82 Ape: This is exactly why I almost never introduce pacu fish to my scrotum.
lol, good plan Stephen! I'd stick with that, and maybe lose the "almost" if you're serious about your bits and bobs.

Sara: I wonder if I would "need" coffee or something if I didn't eat early in the morning. I can foresee myself crashing at noon without any food or a light breakfast...

Chelle: Yeah, the times I have drank coffee I didn't notice any change in my energy levels.

Nora: Isn't it funny how we associate certain foods with times of the day, without any reason whatsoever? I once posted that I was eating leftover lasagna for breakfast much to the displeasure of my thread readers at the time, however I'd much rather eat lasagna that early than, say, greasy ick-infested sausage. I also find it humerous that you can make something "okay" to eat during breakfast if you simply add Breakfast to its name, or add a single pre-determined breakfast item to it. A burito for breakfast is not allowed, but call it a breakfast burito and it's okay! Pizza? No way could that possibly be a breakfast food, but breakfast pizza is fine...

I'm always fascinated with how people seem to live with their brains turned off, never once stopping to think why conventional thought is widely accepted without ever actually being thought about. I'm just as fine with having a pork chop for breakfast as I am having scrambled eggs for dinner.

Megan: It's hard to take my bits and bobs seriously, to be honest...

I hate coffee, so I can honestly say I do not need it to keep me going. . . Tea, on the other hand, keeps me alive some days.

After I came home from taking Charlie to preschool yesterday, I had leftover mac & cheese as second breakfast, at 8:30am. I'm with you on the eat-whatever-you-want-for-breakfast theory. And that greasy sausage for breakfast is ridiculously disgusting.

I quit drinking caffeinated beverages over ten years ago. I have anxiety and panic disorder. My mom said to me that I drank a lot of pop and the caffeine might be making it worse. I stopped drinking any type of caffeinated drink and my attacks dropped by a good 90%.

Stasia: I really really really like...tea that has been sugared to death. I've tried being a tea drinker, I really have, but I seem to only like the sugar junk. I'm fine with that though.

Amber: Haha, that's awesome. I had pizza bread this morning. I'm not a big fan of sausage or bratwurst in general, so eating for breakfast is just blech. 'Breakfast style' sausage around dinner time is delicious though.

Morphy: Hmmmmm, maybe I should stop drinking caffeine... Meh, screw it. *Chugs Coke*

Hi Stephen, finally caught up with you! Love the discussion here.... I am also a morning person and as of a year ago, a decaf coffee drinker in the morning and herbal tea drinker in the afternoon and evenings. It didn't take long for my body to adhust to the lack of caffee although I have now learned to travel with my own decaffinated coffee beans, even when I go home to visit Mom and Dad! My favorite tea is lemon ginger tea with liquid honey as a sweetener.

Hehe, interesting food discussions. As mentioned before, I am not a morning person. However, I am addicted to coffee - or rather milk coffee - and I am of the same opinion as you and Amber. I eat at any time of the day, whatever I fancy. So, it actually could mean that I will eat Spaghetti or anything else savory for breakfast, or I could have some cereal for dinner. :)

Hope you have a great weekend Stephen!

>77 Ape: The only reason you find the idea of me buzzed entertaining is because you live in Ohio. If you've ever seen an animated film in which a squirrel ingests caffeine (Over the Hedge and Hoodwinked! are good examples), that is pretty close to what I'm like. The last time I had a Coke, I could feel my heart racing and felt body was not moving fast enough. I'm pretty peppy already, it's not pretty when that gets magnified.

I love breakfast food and will eat it at all times of day. But I'm not so good at switching to having other types of food for breakfast. Unless I wake up at like 11, I'm not having what I would consider lunch/supper food for breakfast.

I don't care *what* it is, I ain't eatin' first thing in the morning. Yuck. Body doesn't want food for a good two hours.

As to "proper" food choices, PFFFFFFT. Eat what sounds good, or failing that, what's there. Eat it when you're hungry and don't when you're not.

And never, ever, ever drink fizzy death-juice, especially the "diet" kind, or you will be fat. And anxious.

Ah, well. Back to my Happicuppa® Coffee and SecretBurger®

>97 patito-de-hule: LOL

Lori: Well that tea sounds delicious. We've had this discussion before on my thread, I just don't think I've ever had "real" tea.

Thanks Bianca! I'll probably finish a book this weekend, unless I get too distracted by NFL playoffs. :)

Micky: Hmmmm, nope, the idea of you buzzed still sounds fun.

Richard: Not hungry? Does that happen?

Bob: SecretBurger, hmmmmm...slather mayo on it and I'll give it a try. :P

*wave* did you read Oryx and Crake? Then you can give them a try. Just finished it and it is a brilliant read, which I could imagine you would like as well :)

What are NFL playoffs?

It's the championships of a popular sport here in the United States, and my team is in them. :)

A popular sport? Which one? You seem to have quite a lot of popular sports in the states :) *sigh* I think you can see that sports and Bianca don't match :-)

National Foosball League. It's played on a table in some bars.

Stephen you watch foosball? Somehow that image was not one I conjured of you. Foosball players are so big, and virile, and violent, and sweaty.

Big, virile, violent, and sweaty. You got it.


NFL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Nope, I cannot put sugar in my tea. I use a teeny-tiny amount of Stevia if I need any sweetener, but I do not even use that with green teas. My daughter Catey shares your taste in sugar though and would put in more sugar than tea if I did not stop her!

Bianca: Don't listen to Bob, it's (American) football, that being the one with helmets and head injuries. :)

Bob: Foosball and alcohol sounds like a dangerous combination.

Kathy: I know! I am so not a sports person in general, but then I don't exactly follow conventional stereotypes either. Did you know my favorite style of music is Technical Death Metal? Yep, I doubt if anyone saw me browsing the biology or literary fiction books in the local library they would think that one of my favorite albums is Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead by Skinless, just as I doubt if I ever went to one of their concerts that anyone there would think that my ultimate dream would be to work in a library. I would totally wear one of their t-shirts featuring the album art in public, and I doubt anyone would believe me if I told them I was a pacifist, even though it is true. Most of the time. :P

One thing I can say about me with confidence is that you can't look at a single facet of my personality and assume you know the rest, because I can really be all over the place.

I've never been a foosball fan myself

Me neither, but #105 is hilarious.

Bob: That looks like some intense compitition there!

Stasia: They should just make tea-flavored sugar, and then we could eat it with a spoon.

Rachel/Ellen: I hated the stuff as a teenager, I was one of those typical anti-sport nerdy kids. Then I watched it. I still hated it. But then I played the video game version, and picked a team that I liked, and suddenly watching them play on TV was a lot more fun. Had I not played the video game, I'd probably still find sports unappealing.

OMG how can you have anxiety issues and listen to that? I went over to youtube to give it a whirl and I could feel myself start to hyperventilate. It's not even the lyrics or content that got me (I expected that part), it's the terrifying 5000bpm.

No, I never would have imagined that's your thing, lmao!! But it's cool, if it makes you happy. IKWYM about not looking the part that everyone expects. I grew up hanging out with you guys.

Oh, change of plans anyway, sounds like I won't be watching NFL tomorrow. My sister just messaged me asking if I wanted to go see The Hobbit with her and her boyfriend, so I'll be going to the movies tomorrow instead. :)

That frankly sounds like a better use of your Saturday. I'll be watching football and trying to read at the same time but I do so very much want to see The Hobbit!

Kathy: I love me some blast beats. There's nothing better than hearing a band play that fast, and that technical for me. I got bored as hell trying to listen to any form of popular music, and I'm not a fan of electronica and whatnot so the high bpm stuff in that genre doesn't interest me. I actually fall asleep every night listening to this stuff...

>94 drachenbraut23: Bianca: Ohmygosh, I *love* cereal for dinner, or more specifically, cereal for dessert after dinner. Used to do that every night in the dorm cafeteria in college. Sigh.

Stephen: Oooh, have a great time at the movies! Tomm and I have decided just to wait until it comes out on dvd...

No wonder you don't sleep. ;)
I think I may just be old... I used to enjoy metal a lot more (not like above, just the old-fashioned metal ;)) but I find I can only take small doses these days unless I'm really in the mood. My ticker just can't handle it. Some of the music I liked so much during the grunge era (my formative years) is too... out there... for me now too. I've become "adult contemporary".

Oh I missed you were going to the Hobbit! It's pretty great, enjoy it!

Amber: Yeah, I didn't want to see it when it was first released, but fortunately my sister hates crowds as much as I do and decided to wait awhile for everything to quiet down, so more likely than not we'll have the theater to ourselves. It's much less awkward drinking smuggled Mountain Dew that way. :P

Kathy: Oh, I sleep quiet well. I'm an early bird and tend to fall asleep shortly after my head hits the pillow, and music is a huge aid for me. :)

I understand though, I've started listening to a lot of softer music lately as well. I can't go for the 'loud and crazy for loud and crazy's sake.' However, there are a lot of solid bands (like the above) that I continue to enjoy. If you can find the music video for 'Blot' by Einherjer or 'Nymphetamine' by Cradle of Filth, that is much more in line with what I've been listening to lately. Still metal, but not quite as extreme as the aforementioned band.

Haha, this is a double-post fiesta, every time I make a post there is one right above, ahh!

Ellen: I'm really bad at reading on football weekends. I might get in a few pages during halftime, but they tend to be lazy days with minimal reading.

Kathy: I'm sure I'll find something to complain about. :P

Whenever I hear football and/or foosball. . . . I can only think of the Adam Sandler movie, "The Waterboy." I tried to find a funny "foosball" meme, but alas, failure.

American football is so wimpy. Canadian football is where it is at friends. 3 downs only and a bigger field. However, have now exhausted my entire knowledge of football. Not really into the sport.

Have fun at The Hobbit, Stephen!

Katie: How about this:



Micky: Also more players play on the field at the same time in Canadian football. :)

That is funny. . . I was looking for one from Waterboy, referring to football as foosball. The mother says "foosball is da debil" a lot, lol.

> 122.... I love that picture Stephen! LOL

I had a salad for breakfast today.... it was yummy.... and I too will eat cereal for dinner... especially if I don't feel like doing dishes or cooking... you know cause I'm so lazy!

I hope you enjoy the Hobbit... I'm waiting for the DVD cause I want to save my money and see that dumb movie coming out "Haunted House".... I just love those kinda movies... they are so dumb they are funny to me... my favorite is "Vampires Suck".....

Hey.

Katie: Ah, yes, I'm sure there is one out there somewhere...

Jennifer: The closest theater to where I live charges $4 for tickets, so it's WAY cheaper to see movies in theater than paying $20 for a DVD, or an equal amount for a rental. :)

Hi Richard! :)

I would love to see a $4 dollar ticket.... but the cheapest I have found around here is like $6.50 and they check your bag for illegals (they don't dig... just make you open it up so they can glance in it)...

so then if you want a drink or snack you are stuck buying from the concession.... where a small drink is $3.75 and a small popcorn is $4 and a box of candy is like $2.75....

I could wait until like april or may when it goes to the discount theater and the ticket is $3.50... which is not bad and they are actually a cafe so you can order real food like burgers, or salads, or chicken wings and they deliver it to your table!.... so you never miss the movie unless you have to go to the bathroom....

come to think of it I think I'll wait until the Haunted House movie also goes there.... I love that place but always forget about it....

SMILE!

Ha! Funny!

HAHAHA!

*snerk*

>122 Ape: See, even you have more knowledge about Canadian football than I do. Now if you want to understand the rules of curling, I'm your girl. :D

I'm home! The movie was great, it's probably fortunate that it's been awhile since I read the book as I was much less nitpicky than I would have had I re-read it recently. I liked that they injected the book with so much humor, very appropriate considering how much more light-hearted the book is compared to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and there was plenty of humor in the original text. :)

I finished my book earlier this morning, but my head is still spinning at having spent time interacting with humans (*Shudders*) so I'll get around to writing a review tomorrow. Maybe.

Jennifer: The concession stand at this place is actually really cheap as well. $1, $2, $3 for small/medium/big-giant-huge popcorns, drinks are $1, $1.25 and $1.50 just the same. It's an amazing place and I have no idea how they operate and stay in business with such low prices. The joke is that the theater is just a front for a crime lord's den. :P

Micky: Awesome! Why don't they fight more often like in hockey?

Happy weekend, Stephen!

Thanks Stasia. :)

That is seriously cheap, Stephen! Glad you could go. I've been wanting to see The Hobbit, but I figure it'd be cheaper to just buy the DVD when it comes out. (It's pricey here.)

P.S. Hate football, but love the dingleberry photo! XD And smiley photo. Is that a People of Walmart pic? Love those.

OMG, funny pics over here on this thread.

Sara: It's amazing, how cheap the place is. I really wish it were closer!

Ellen: I know, I think we have to tone it down a bit though because my dial-up can't handle too many big pictures. :(

2. The Second Opinion by Michael Palmer


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Pages: 377
Rating: 3/5

Fiction - Mystery
Owned

Thea, a young lady suffering from Aspergers syndrome, returns home from Africa as a physician for Doctors Without Borders to tend to her father, who finds himself in a vegetative state after being hit by a car. I say ‘finds himself,’ because Thea quickly realizes he is not a vegetable, but is suffering from what might be one of the more horrifying conditions imaginable; locked-in syndrome. Fully aware but fully paralyzed, he is completely incapable of anything more than moving his eye a fraction of an inch.

The book was especially relatable for me as both syndromes hit close to home. Though I don’t have Aspergers, the social awkwardness aspect of it is something that I share, so Thea is one of the more identifiable characters I’ve come across in some time. I’ve also a regular sufferer of sleep paralysis, which I can say is incredibly terrifying even though it usually only lasts a minute or two. I shudder at the mere thought of being in that state permanently.

The mystery comes in when Thea realizes her father’s accident may not have been an accident, she has to overcome the social limitation set upon her by Asperger’s to wade through hospital politics to carry out her investigation. I’m not terribly fond of the genre, but I enjoyed seeing Thea overcome her ‘disability’ for the sake of her father, and this made the book very readable for me personally.

#141: I do enjoy mysteries, so I will have to give that one a try. Thanks for the review, Stephen.

I shudder at the mere thought of being in that state permanently.

Me too!

Had a Chicken Little for lunch and thought fondly of you, Stephen. :)

Omigosh I cannot read that mystery because I would crawl out of my skin at the horror of it! If I were ever to pray, it would be to die rather than be afflicted with locked-in syndrome.

>135 Ape: Because if they were ever to start throwing rocks at each other, everyone would die.

>141 Ape: Nice review. Glad you enjoyed it. Although locked-in syndrome sounds terrifying.

Stasia: I may look into more of his stuff myself. :)

Amber: Oooooh, what did you think of it?

Richard: The first time I suffered a episode of sleep paralysis it lasted at least 10-15 minutes, and that was terrifying enough for me.

Micky: I fail to see the problem. :P

Richard again: Good thing I drink non-diet Coke.

Way better than diet. Still horrible for you.

10-15min?!? HORRORS!!!!!!!!!!!

It hasn't helped with the whole 'waist line' issue, however...

Nothing in the fizzy death-juice line will, and I mean No Thing. It makes people fat and it gives them no benefit whatever in compensation. Eating six boxes of those Star Cluster thingies will give you bad skin, a huge belly, and probably cause diabetes if you keep it up. But you will also get riboflavin, niacin, and other actual nutrients (shut the hell up, veggies and natural gurus, unless you're paying for the groceries).

Fizzy death-juice? No nutrients. None.

Hi Stephen great review on The Second Opinion. However, knowing that you have got anxiety disorder and now reading that you suffer from sleep paralysis, I can see that you related very differently to the characters and events in the story.

What Richard said HORROR to stay that long in such a state !!!!!!
I only hope that you don't experience that to often :(

So, you saw the Hobbit and you liked it? I still haven't seen the movie, but Alex did and he loved it.

BTW: I finished Warm Bodies which turned out to be a short, funny and delightful read and now I can go and see the movie in the cinema. :)

>147 Ape:: It was delicious. It wasn't all I had, though; our KFC is combined with a Taco Bell, so I had crunchy tacos supreme (no tomato), too. But at least I had a diet coke, so it wasn't all unhealthy. Oh, wait...

Richard: But soda is liquid heaven...

Bianca: I wasn't sure how connected sleep paralysis was to anxiety disorders, but I did experience it for the first time 2-3 years ago, so I suppose it could be connected. Over the past 2-3 years I've probably experienced it, say, 5 or 6 times maybe? The most recent episode being a few weeks ago.

I can't describe how absolutely terrifying it was the first time it happened, simply because I had no idea what was happening. I had never heard of sleep paralysis, all I knew was that I was awake, I was laying in my bed, and I COULDN'T MOVE. I panicked something horrible, and lamented the possibility that something could have happened to permanently paralyze me...and then I snapped out of it. Now that I'm aware of it, it's more of a nuisance. I tend to wake up 'stuck' grumble to myself, and then wait until I can move.

Yeah, I really liked The Hobbit. I'd have no qualms with seeing it a 2nd time, really. :)

Amber: Honestly, a Taco Bell KFC combo sounds amazing and I'm totally jealous.

Come and visit and we can go there, my treat! ;)

HAHAHA! Wow, that's funny, because I think that's almost exactly what Rachel said to lure me to a pizza shop. In this case, I think you might be a slightly too far away, unfortunately...

A few years ago I woke up with lockjaw. It's the only time it's ever happened, but yeah, panicky is all that moment was. Then I forcibly put my jaw into a place where it could move--probably the opposite of what one is supposed to do. I've had TMJ, so I assume they're related. . . but to be honest, I'd rather not know, since it's not happening. *remains blissfully ignorant while turning on ze Kindle*

10-15minutes sleep paralysis! That's terrifying! I've had sleep paralysis, but never for such a long time. I also experience hypnopompic and hypnogogic hallucinations. Perhaps I should give up the fizzy death juice? I gave it up last year for like 2 months. If only I could give it up permanently.

Jesus. What kind of soda are you guys drinking? o_0 And here I thought I was drinking the dangerous stuff.

>138 saraslibrary: P.S. Hate football, but love the dingleberry photo! XD And smiley photo. Is that a People of Walmart pic? Love those.
Took words out of my mouth....I saw a walmart pic of a larger than life lady with flesh coloured leggings on, and it seriously looked like she was NUDE from the waist down at the shops! lol
(or...maybe she actually was? Who am I to know the goings on at Walmart??)

Good morning Stephen, knowing you are an early bird you might even be up already.
Ha, couldn't stop my curiosity and actually looked anxiety disorder and sleep paralysis up. Apparently these two are connected, and your type of sleep paralysis appears to be a quite common phenomen in that regards.
However, I can see how horrified you must have been when it happened to you the first time and I can see that you kind of got accepted these episodes in a way.

Maybe you should stop drinking the fizzy death drinks and start drinking green smoothies, much more nutrious, very tasty and very healthy. Could also help with your waistline :)

Katie: Lockjaw sounds like it would seriously suck...or maybe it would give me an excuse not to talk. Hmmmmm...

Rachel/Sara/Bianca: Actually, my episodes started when I wasn't drinking fizzy death juice, in fact I drank exclusively water for several years and it was during that time that it started. I've only been drinking coke since...ummmm, sometime last year.

Megan: Haha, yeah, flesh-covered pants are always risky to wear in public. :P

#161: Unless your jaw is locked open, like it was for me. . . then you can sorta talk, it sounds funny, but it's doable.

Awwww, man! :(

Can we please talk about zombies now? This is torture with jaws locked in various positions, and paralysis *shudder* and fizzy death-juice!

Here:

I'm reading a book about an Ebola outbreak right now. :D

>165 Ape: Of course you are. Germ boy. ;)

Haha Stephen, that fits so well. Germ boy, indeed :)

Watch out, I'm heading to Ohio next week. I'm going to be in Beavercreek for a week visiting my daughter and family.

Perhaps the plane will fly over your area en route to Dayton airport.



Happy New Year!!!

Hi Stephen, just passing through but thought I should actually say something instead of just lurking. Hmmm..."Germboy" kinda has a nice ring to it.

Micky: I really want to get around to The Patron Saint of Plagues in the near future as well, so...yeah, there is more where that came from. :)

Bianca: It sounds like a super hero name, except I think 'boys' are sidekicks, so I demand to be called Germ Man...unless there is a, ummmm, Toxoplasmosis Woman...in which case I'm totally okay with being a Germ Boy. :)

Linda: I'll run for cover every time an airplain flies over, I promise. :P

Judy: I'm always okay with Lady Lurkers, so no worries. :)

Hm, Toxoplasmosis Woman? what about "Lagos bat virus woman" sounds much cooler and much more like a super hero name *giggle*

I kinda prefer Ebola Boy and Marburg Mary, myself.

Woah, the female part of Ebola - actually that fits. I should've thought myself about that one.

As usual, I'm late to the party...but...regarding breakfast

I can't stand the thought of cereal-with-milk. I am hungry at around 9:30-10:00 AM...so I raid the fridge. If there is no soup, or cold pizza, or cold pasta...I'll do cheese grits (which is NOT cereal...it's heaven).....and i need at least three cups of coffee before i am fully human.

I missed everything else up top...sorry.....

;-}

Okay, so now we just need to find Lagos Bat Virus Woman...

Bob: Haha! That's amazing, you need to copyright that right this instant.

Jude: Cold leftovers are fantastic for breakfast, although I usually re-heat pizza.

I re-heat my pizza, too

;-}

I reheat my pizza. But at lunchtime. :P

#159: True, Walmart is an entire country all to itself. Very, very scary (when you're in the store)/funny (once you're in the safety of your car) place.

#168: Love the airplane pic. :) But you're not supposed to give Stephen any heads-up. He's like prey. He'll hide if he so much as hears or smells someone nearby.

#174: Yay for another "normal" breakfast/caffeine-consumer. :)

#175-177: I'm usually a pig (and, well, vegan pizzas are kinda puny), so there are no leftover pizzas for breakfast...so warm/hot pizza for me. :)

Oh, backing up (beeeep, beeep, beeep)...

#146: Diet soda causes you to gain weight? I'm still scratching my head over that one, because it has 0 calories. In fact, the Olsen twins are poster children for Diet Coke and are maybe 100 lbs together. On the other hand, I've read/heard the same thing that diet sodas are supposed to make you gain weight, but I have to say pooey to that. I do agree they're horrible for you teeth, though. And aspartame has been linked to cancer (why it's still in gum, etc, I don't know), so I try and stick with other evilish sugar substitutes like Splenda (which probably just cause fun stuff like butt leakage).

Jude/Micky: Hurray! I never understood the appeal of cold pizza, it's always flavorless to me. *Shrug*

Sara: I must say the idea of being thought of as prey isn't as disconcerting as it probably should be. :P

Calories give you energy, but isn't always the determining factor for weight gain. At least I don't think. Oh, what do I know about food? *Eats pizza for breakfast and chases it with a can of coke*

(Note: No, I did not seriously just eat pizza and coke. I won't open the coke until at least 10am. :P)

Diet soda causes you to gain weight? I'm still scratching my head over that one, because it has 0 calories.

There are several reasons diet sodas (and other things with fake sugars that are supposedly diet/good for you) can cause weight gain. The first is that they are unrecognizable to your body. Your body needs sugars in order to function properly and since it doesn't recognize fake sugars, like aspartame, when it gets ahold of some real sugar, say from that healthy fruit you eat (or the less healthy chocolate), it goes into "STORE STORE STORE" mode because it thinks it's being starved of necessary things. This makes you gain weight.

Another reason, that Richard brought up (but maybe on another thread?) is that you start to trick your brain (especially the dopamine section). You begin to loose the cognitive recognition that sugary taste= high calories and that can create a situation where, when faced with actual high calorie sugary things, your body doesn't suppress dopamine soon enough and therefore you end up overeating without even really noticing.

You are much better off drinking full calorie soda (especially if you can get Mexican Coke or Jones Cola, both of which are made with cane sugar instead of corn sugar) and simply limiting your intake than drinking diet soda at all. That really goes for ALL foods that are labeled diet or low cal. Just forget them, they do more harm than good.

Stephen
Don't run for cover. It would be nice if I could convince the pilot to drop a bag of lovely hearts on your doorstep.



Hearts for Ape coming at you!

Leah: Thanks for the advice! *Opens 2-liter of Coke to go along with his lunch* Oh...this isn't what you meant? :P

Katie: Hmmm, that graphic really looks like it should be animated somehow...

Linda: Oooooh, are they the edible kind?

Thanks for the advice! *Opens 2-liter of Coke to go along with his lunch* Oh...this isn't what you meant? :P

REAL SUGAR, Stephen, REAL SUGAR. Sheesh. ::eye roll:: I guess, if pressed, I would say that corn sugar is better than aspartame, but i feel dirty for just having considered the question. Eww. Contamination. Corn is for eating, on the cob or creamed, NOT a the base ingredient of every single thing you consume each day.

Unfortunately, you probably can't get Mexican Coke in a small town in Ohio. And it only comes in those nice old fashioned glass bottles. (So, yay for no plastic too!)

*Dumps 15 packets of Splenda into his Coke*

But it's delicious! ;)

I used to be able to stock up on Coke that was kosher for passover- also made with cane sugar- Available in our grocery for a few weeks each year. I think the only clue was a different color cap on the bottle (yellow?)and the "U" symbol in the fine print on the cap.
Have reduced soda consumption enough that I no longer look for it.

I didn't know they made such a thing, although it doesn't surprise me. I know there is about half a bazillion different kinds of Mountain Dew.

I've bought kosher Coke before. I had forgotten about it! I'd like to say it's such a nice thing that they embrace that kind of stuff, but the cynical me knows it's just a nice marketing ploy.

Isn't the fact that they realize there is a market for such things encouraging though?

Not really. It's like Wal-Mart selling "local" produce. It's just misappropriation of something good for the sake of money.

Leah's correct on both counts, and it's really amazing to me that the obesity epidemic (stupid term makes people dismiss the problem) *CORRELATES*DIRECTLY* with the rise of the "diet" and low-fat (snort) boxed food industry.

Also up: Endocrine cancers. No causal link proved.

This shit will kill you. Eat real, eat less, exercise more. As Puritan as it sounds, that's how weight comes off and stays off.

And the poor folks in the 20% of the population with the malfunctioning obesity-causing gene are the ones who need to do it the most. How horrible that must be.

Leah: But the apples are so shinier! ;)

Richard: I'll die faster eating 'real' food, because food poisoning kills you instantly, and I have a good 15+ years before the cancers start cropping up. :D

Just checking you're still alive, Stephen.

Stephen, your stubbornness about eating junk food is adorable.

Micky: Afraid so.

Amber: You stop it right this instant. I'm going to do something traditionally adorable, just so that when it is compared to things that are supposed to be adorable, you will see just how unadorable it really is.

Errrrrmmmm...now to think of something adorable. Uhhhhhh...puppies...candy canes...toe socks...hmmmmm.

Stop looking at my toe socks.

And all the diet soda talk sounds reasonable, but meh, I don't see the weight gain for me. When I die of some kind of fun cancer, then I'll give everyone on this thread a dollar. Or not. :P

*joining in for the dollar*

In Canadian pennies. Which are no longer being made, apparently. :P

Those damn Canadians have infested LT! Canada Canada Canada!! (that was my Jan Brady voice)

Yeah, but if you're going to have an infestation, an infestation of Canadians is literally the best you can hope for. :P

Says the Candidian!

My son Keith is obsessed with Mexican Coke in the glass bottles. The "high fructose corn syrup" in regular soda bothers him, but the pure sugar--he loves it. And he usually gets it at Sam's Club in a case. Although, our regular grocery store also carries it (as well as Mexican Pepsi and Mexican Fanta Orange).

Now I want to order a pizza before bed just so I can put it in the fridge and eat it cold for breakfast. Yum.

Cold? Really? But it's so...blah...cold. Toasted in the oiven and topped with scrambled eggs, now that's a hangover breakfast. Yum!

I once had a chicken teriyaki pizza. . . it had fried rice (with bits of eggs), chicken, veggies, and some sort of sweet and sour sauce. It was delish. I love Mesa's Pizza. They make crazy by the slice pizzas. Never the same selection 2 nights in a row. They're situated on a college campus too, so they're open til like 3am or something ridiculous like that on weekends :3

Don't get me wrong, I love hot pizza (NY-style FTW) but after it's chilled in the fridge, accompanied by a nice beer (n.b. not for breakfast) it is a lovely thing.

I can't imagine Chicago style deep dish would be good cold but I rarely eat Chicago style.

#200: Infestation? Ew. Now're you just making me itch in unmentionable places. XP

Odd question: but why even cook the pizza if those of you like it cold for breakfast? Just let it thaw overnight and voila. Mushy, cold pizza. :P I'm a genius.

Ohhhhh, a dollar! *Starts exposing Sara to dangerous radiation*

Pizza sounds good right now, and it's 5:50 am. *Sigh*

Mmmmmm.....pizza

Chicago style deep dish is yummy. Stuffed pizza, too. But have them too often and you'll take on the physique of a heffalump.

No,no,no, it must be proper Italien pizza *drool* and definately not mushy in the morning *shudder* .

It has to be a thin, hand thrown crust topped with spinach, broken egg and LOOOOTS of garlic *even more drools*
Sorry Stephen, forgot my handkerchief. I am afraid you have to mop your floor now :(

Laura: Hey wait, I'm supposed to give YOU food cravings, not the other way around!

Joe: I've never had proper Chicago-style deep dish, just some of the national chain 'interpretations' of it. My mom loves Chicago and has been there a couple times though, and the only thing I'm jealous about is her visit to one of the most popular deep dish places in the city...although I forget the name now.

Bianca: Hmmmm, never had pizza with eggs. I've been wanting to try BBQ sauce/Chicken pizza forever, but I haven't yet...

*shudder even more* you have got a funny taste -BBQ sauce Pizza? That's...that's blasphemie!

I hear it is delicious. But I'm a BBQ freak, so... *Shrug*

Mmm, it is delicious. BBQ Chicken pizza...drooling now!

I only like Pringels BBQ flavour and when I eat meat from time to time I do like BBQ chicken wings - well that's yummie!

Laura: Ha! Did I get you back with a food craving? :D

Bianca: God made meat so we'd have something to put BBQ sauce on, it's the truth.

God made cows, sheep, pigs, and dogs for man's edification and enjoyment. Man made meat. Out of . . . cows, sheep, pigs, and dogs.

212 > Stephen - Probably Giordanos or Lou Malnati's? Those are the two that seem ton battle for the crown around here. Gino's East is popular as well.

Hmm, lots of pizza and no zombies. Add another z to the conversation and it'll be time for... *yawns*

BBQ pizza is indeed delicious. Bianca: I was a doubter at first, too, and then I tasted one. Mmmmmm!

Bob: I enjoy them most with a side of fries. :)

Tom: Hmmmmm, it's the one where they let you write all over the walls. Does that narrow it down?

Micky: *Head in hands and groans*

Amber: I've had chicken and ranch sauce pizza that probably would have been delicious, if it didn't have onions. :(

Smoked chicken pizza with BBQ sauce and peppers. No onions.

*Drools*

BBQ chicken pizza is best with a very slightly sweet whole wheat crust. There is a place in Knoxville that makes the best I've ever had. It's amazing. And I'm not even a pizza fan. (Except really traditional brick oven pizza margherita).

With artificial cheese 'product,' right Leah? :P

You know it!......

Never in a million years. Mozzarella, preferably mozzarella di bufala.

I love the 'made with real cheese' stamp on packages. It's so meaningless!

Like this one?



I would like to explain to them that even if they START with real cheese, when they are done it's decidedly no longer real.

Haha, yeah. It doesn't even need to START with cheese though. So long as they use real cheese, even if it's .000001 percent, you can technically say that it was 'made with real cheese.' Because, y'know, it was. REAL cheese was an ingredient...at one point during the process... *Shrug*

With that said, Cheez-its are pretty freakin' delicious. :P

But they cram that giant wedge of cheese into the box. ???

Bacon cheeseburger pizza with jalapenos.

God doesn't eat better than this.

That's true, Leah, haven't you seen the commercial? They cram a giant wheel into each square! ;)

Richard: I haven't been terribly impressed by cheeseburger pizza the 2 times I have had it. Of course, those pizzas were microwaveable, so that probably explains it. :P

THIS one has a thin, crisp crust, REAL cheddar, crisp bacon, and lots of hamburgler. Plus jalapenos.

Not at all even in the ballpark of a nuked cardboard faux pizza eaten to stave off starvation.

Richard...stop posting pics of delicious pizzas, unless you include recipes.....said "the foodie*

Cheez-Its...are legal "Crack"

;-}

I used to eat cheez-its, until I had a Charld. Now it's goldfish. So delicious!

But goldfish aren't made with "real" fish. :(

Yes, Stephen, you did get me back with a food craving. You forced me to order a pizza tonight from my favorite place after I was done with work. I blame you for my delicious breakfast tomorrow morning. :p

No but goldfish remain tasty. And smiley. :)

Oh good. I get to be a bookend on your thread. I posted in the beginning, and now here I am endish. Hugs. : ) Hungry now. Off to have a very late dinner.

Richard: I had one recently with 'powder cheese product.' Not really sure what that is...it melted eventually in the toaster oven, but it tasted nothing like any cheese ever.

Jude: Tell me about it. I could easily power through multiple boxes per day. *Twitch*

Amber: Yes! Gold fish are delicious too!

Kathy: Haha!

Laura: Bwahahaha. :D

Micky: The smiles are what make them so edible, for sure. I mean yeah, I would still eat them even if they were screaming in terror at the prospect of being eaten, but there is much less guilt involved when they are smiling while you pop them into your mouth. :)

Hi Kim! For me, a very late dinner is around 5pm...

>238 UnrulySun:: If there were made of real fish, I certainly wouldn't eat them. *shudders*

I'm sure there is a chemical that can make fish-in-a-box stored at room temperature viable. ;)

244

ew

>245 ty1997: +1

If you are concerned, they could make a slightly more expensive variety with "Fresh" in the title, that is microwaveable.

*retch*

It's science! It's progress! I don't know why you are so resistant to it. We'll be able to replace body parts and organs with robotics soon, I'm sure, so what's the harm. ;)

Science and progress are great. And I'm cool with robotic replacements for body parts and organs although there are some creepy things that come along with that. I got to hear Cory Doctorow speak a while back and he made reference findings that revealed hackers can tamper with pacemakers. Little frightening that.

>245 ty1997:+6 just gross Stephen!

> 250 that article is downright scary! *gulp*

OKAY Stephen, what about using the cooker and just make a nice and easy lovely meal yourself? Ha?

Hahahahahahahaha! Good one Bianca.

Micky: Ooooooh, that is just creepy. Then again, I could totally grope random women's titaniun buttocks and blame it on a hacker, bwahahaha!

Bianca: Because I'd die of food poisoning shortly thereafter?

New thread posted! :)

Why? Is something wrong with your cooker? Aren't you cleaning the cooker properly and now the stove is covered in bugs? Hm, no problem just tell me the brand of your cooker and I will pm you the proper cleaning manual *smile*