Can we _please_ have a confirmation button on changing a cover in the RMUC homepage module?
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1jjmcgaffey
It's way too easy to click in the wrong spot and end up with - I've changed the cover, I know I've changed the cover, there's absolutely nothing I can do about it, I can't even see what the old cover was (unless I'm lucky in the placement of the popup box) to be able to go find it again and put it back to what it ought to be. Dismissing a cover has a cancel button; could you _please_ add one to the change cover as well? Please, pretty please with sprinkles on top?
I absolutely love the RMUC module, it's done wonders for my covers. And is now forcing me to go back and reconfirm all the covers I thought I'd done, because a lot of them turn out to be awful...but that's me. But about once in twenty to fifty covers I click just a little too fast and it's Change Cover instead of Dismiss Cover under the mouse (because the cover offered is a little wider than usual, or stuff loaded in an odd order, or something - I'm clicking where Dismiss Cover usually is, but not this time). Which means a minute to twenty minutes spent finding and opening that book's cover page, searching through the assorted covers with only my memory of the cover I saw as the module loaded to guide me (there's nothing that shows what covers I _used_ to have, only the useless and desired-to-be-dismissed current cover) to find the cover I accidentally removed. When it's one of the classics, with 348 covers (yes, I've seen that many or more on several books), it's a long and annoying job. It would be so much better if I could just click Cancel when I know I've done it wrong.
Or, you know, that cover-fixing page that lets me select and dismiss a bunch of covers at once showed up. But that's a much bigger task than adding a Cancel button so the change doesn't _have_ to happen (and if necessary decoupling the change from the Change Cover link and attaching it to the OK button in the popup dialog instead). Please?
I absolutely love the RMUC module, it's done wonders for my covers. And is now forcing me to go back and reconfirm all the covers I thought I'd done, because a lot of them turn out to be awful...but that's me. But about once in twenty to fifty covers I click just a little too fast and it's Change Cover instead of Dismiss Cover under the mouse (because the cover offered is a little wider than usual, or stuff loaded in an odd order, or something - I'm clicking where Dismiss Cover usually is, but not this time). Which means a minute to twenty minutes spent finding and opening that book's cover page, searching through the assorted covers with only my memory of the cover I saw as the module loaded to guide me (there's nothing that shows what covers I _used_ to have, only the useless and desired-to-be-dismissed current cover) to find the cover I accidentally removed. When it's one of the classics, with 348 covers (yes, I've seen that many or more on several books), it's a long and annoying job. It would be so much better if I could just click Cancel when I know I've done it wrong.
Or, you know, that cover-fixing page that lets me select and dismiss a bunch of covers at once showed up. But that's a much bigger task than adding a Cancel button so the change doesn't _have_ to happen (and if necessary decoupling the change from the Change Cover link and attaching it to the OK button in the popup dialog instead). Please?
2Lman
Oh, I SOOOOO vote for this too!
I did this - changed the cover unwittingly - and I still don't know which one I initially had.
Very good Idea @jjmcgaffey
BTW - I love, love RMUC too, but this would make it even better! :)
I did this - changed the cover unwittingly - and I still don't know which one I initially had.
Very good Idea @jjmcgaffey
BTW - I love, love RMUC too, but this would make it even better! :)
3jjmcgaffey
Yeah. We asked for it in the New Home Page threads - bugs and comments both, I think - but there was so much stuff talked about in there that I figured maybe here it might be seen more easily. It needs something!
4SylviaC
Yes, please! I've done the same thing several times.
I would also like to be able to dismiss multiple covers at once.
I would also like to be able to dismiss multiple covers at once.
5Bookmarque
I don't need the confirm button for the new cover quite as much, since it would be just another click in a click-heavy module, but I would like the flagging ability to return in the module itself. Sometimes I just can't be bothered to go to the work page and sort through all the covers and I just dismiss the non-covers instead.
Oh and yes, bulk dismissal and a way to fix a cover as a final would be nice too. Dozens and dozens of covers for popular works are annoying to get through when I've already decided a final cover.
Oh and yes, bulk dismissal and a way to fix a cover as a final would be nice too. Dozens and dozens of covers for popular works are annoying to get through when I've already decided a final cover.
6hailelib
I would like the OP's suggestion too as I've accidently clicked in the wrong place as well.
7lorax
Yes for both the confirmation-for-change (which should be a relatively quick fix) and the "don't show me more covers for this work" (which would be more involved) suggestions.
8paradoxosalpha
I'd rather have a confirm for change, and no confirm for dismissal! I do a lot more of the latter, and it poses no hazard to my existing data.
10jules_l
Yes, please. Confirmation for a cover change would be a godsend, since tracking down the old cover is hard work if you do it by accident.
And I'd also be happy if there wasn't a confirmation dialog for dismissal, since I do a lot of those which I'd like to speed up, and am much less likely to get them wrong. I can :-)
The bug where flagging from the module doesn't work was reported back in August.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/157792
Linking to it here for reference.
And I'd also be happy if there wasn't a confirmation dialog for dismissal, since I do a lot of those which I'd like to speed up, and am much less likely to get them wrong. I can :-)
The bug where flagging from the module doesn't work was reported back in August.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/157792
Linking to it here for reference.
11jjmcgaffey
I've got my dismissal workflow down - click on Dismiss this cover, spacebar to click OK. Takes two hands but is _so_ much faster than mousing around. And if you hide the top bar (set it to Scrolls with page down in the footer), you can scroll the home page so that you don't have to move the mouse between clicking on a cover (not the first one) to bring up the lightbox and clicking on the Dismiss link.
If, of course, the Dismiss link is where it ought to be - bringing this back to the original request! And linking to a lot of the others, as well - if I didn't have to dismiss 347 covers on a popular book (OK, not quite so many yet - I'm still working only on HQ covers) by clicking on each one, I wouldn't need such an emphasis on speed.
If, of course, the Dismiss link is where it ought to be - bringing this back to the original request! And linking to a lot of the others, as well - if I didn't have to dismiss 347 covers on a popular book (OK, not quite so many yet - I'm still working only on HQ covers) by clicking on each one, I wouldn't need such an emphasis on speed.
12jules_l
11> I dream of only having 347 covers to dismiss. Though I do think that splitting off Gulliver's Travels from the several different Gulliver's Travels And Other Writings collections was one of the best things the module has prompted me to go and do. Only 11 covers on the work I have now! I don't miss the 576 I left behind, that's for sure.
My dismissal workflow involves enter rather than the spacebar, but works on similar mouse+keyboard principles. I must try hiding the top bar and lining up the module to eliminate mouse movement entirely - that sounds rather nifty.
My dismissal workflow involves enter rather than the spacebar, but works on similar mouse+keyboard principles. I must try hiding the top bar and lining up the module to eliminate mouse movement entirely - that sounds rather nifty.
13jjmcgaffey
12> Yes. I forget who taught it to me, but it's wonderful. And yeah, I've seen more - I had 348 on the brain, because I was searching through it for a wrong book (completely unrelated cover - still don't know why, it wasn't an ISBN issue). Of course now I can't remember what book it was.
15jjmcgaffey
Bump. I just did it again - fortunately, since I'm now back in the undated covers and the one I was using is newer than that, as soon as I got rid of all the May 2014 books it showed up. So only about 10 minutes of work (that I want to do anyway, but wasn't planning to do tonight) to get back my good cover from one click in the wrong place. Can you count this as a bug (in the implementation of this lovely new feature) and fix it along with the rest?
16jjmcgaffey
Just did it again. I clicked in the same place to dismiss four covers, then one cover was wider than usual and that same spot was Change cover. And once the box came up, there was absolutely nothing I could do - no way to undo, no way to see the book, nothing. All I could do was click OK and accept the stupid wrong cover.
I found the book, and changed the cover back, but it required some considerable searching through my library (The Story of English has far too many common words in the title!). 5-10 minutes wasted just because of one mis-click. Can we PLEEEEEASE get a dismiss/undo/don't change button?
I found the book, and changed the cover back, but it required some considerable searching through my library (The Story of English has far too many common words in the title!). 5-10 minutes wasted just because of one mis-click. Can we PLEEEEEASE get a dismiss/undo/don't change button?
18MarthaJeanne
Agreed. There is even a popup you have to click on. It is really agravating that it doesn't let you undo the mistake. The dismiss popup lets you change your mind.
I actually clicked where the dismiss had been, but in that fraction of a second the cover had gotten a bit wider and moved the buttons.
Back to not using this.
I actually clicked where the dismiss had been, but in that fraction of a second the cover had gotten a bit wider and moved the buttons.
Back to not using this.
19lorax
Bumping this.
The UI for this is just bad. Dismissing a cover - an action which causes no change in the user's data - creates a confirmation window. Changing the cover, which changes user data and has no simple way of getting the old data back (since you need to go dig through covers to find the one you're using) has no confirmation. I suspect that when they designed it they thought "people are going to use this to grab a new cover, they won't dismiss unless they decide on further inspection they don't want to change after all", but that's clearly not how it's being used, and the UI really should reflect actual usage.
The UI for this is just bad. Dismissing a cover - an action which causes no change in the user's data - creates a confirmation window. Changing the cover, which changes user data and has no simple way of getting the old data back (since you need to go dig through covers to find the one you're using) has no confirmation. I suspect that when they designed it they thought "people are going to use this to grab a new cover, they won't dismiss unless they decide on further inspection they don't want to change after all", but that's clearly not how it's being used, and the UI really should reflect actual usage.
20jjmcgaffey
Bump!
Just did it again, and had to search through 242 member covers on The Wind in the Willows to get my good cover back. Is it really hard to put a cancel button on Change Cover? I don't understand why one confirmation window has both buttons and one has only OK.
Hellllp!
Just did it again, and had to search through 242 member covers on The Wind in the Willows to get my good cover back. Is it really hard to put a cancel button on Change Cover? I don't understand why one confirmation window has both buttons and one has only OK.
Hellllp!
22MarthaJeanne
Yes, please.
25birder4106
Please excuse my silly question. I normally use the german site of LT.
I googled it, but could not get it.
What does "RMUC" meens?
I googled it, but could not get it.
What does "RMUC" meens?
26.Monkey.
>25 birder4106: Recent Member-uploaded Covers (for Your Books). It's one of the home page modules.
27birder4106
>26 .Monkey.:
Thank you.
Thank you.
28lorax
I'm sort of wondering if I should re-post this as a bug, which might at least get it looked at.
29jjmcgaffey
I've bugged it at least once, I think. But go ahead, structures have changed.
31Caramellunacy
Pretty please?
32Cynfelyn
Agnes: Pretty please?
Gru: The physical appearance of the please makes no difference. It is still no, so go to sleep.
Despicable Me {2010 film}
Gru: The physical appearance of the please makes no difference. It is still no, so go to sleep.
Despicable Me {2010 film}
33Caramellunacy
>32 Cynfelyn: But it's SO FLUFFY!
35MarthaJeanne
When you consider how many clicks it takes to change a cover on the cover page of a work! Maybe one of those clicks could be moved here?
36jjmcgaffey
So now, instead of the two links for Change Cover and Dismiss Cover, I see "Change Cover (button Yes) (button Cancel) | Dismiss cover".
How utterly useless.
If I click the Yes button, the cover instantly changes.Just like beforeWorse than before - not even a confirmation popup lacking the Cancel button! No confirmation, no way to cancel. If I click the Cancel button in the lightbox, all it does is close the lightbox with the current cover. That's NOT what we asked for!
It's still (almost) as easy to click the Yes button by accident and get your cover instantly and randomly changed, with no way to undo it.
And to top it off, Dismiss Cover still has the confirmation popup with Yes and No. All they did was remove the (useless, one-button) confirmation popup on Change Cover and put two (even more useless) buttons directly into the cover lightbox.
PLEASE, could we have a _confirmation_popup_, with a Yes and a No (or Cancel) button, for the Change Cover choice? So that if it accidentally gets clicked, it can be undone with one more click? Adding an extra button to the lightbox, that doesn't allow us to undo a mis-click, DOESN'T HELP.
How utterly useless.
If I click the Yes button, the cover instantly changes.
It's still (almost) as easy to click the Yes button by accident and get your cover instantly and randomly changed, with no way to undo it.
And to top it off, Dismiss Cover still has the confirmation popup with Yes and No. All they did was remove the (useless, one-button) confirmation popup on Change Cover and put two (even more useless) buttons directly into the cover lightbox.
PLEASE, could we have a _confirmation_popup_, with a Yes and a No (or Cancel) button, for the Change Cover choice? So that if it accidentally gets clicked, it can be undone with one more click? Adding an extra button to the lightbox, that doesn't allow us to undo a mis-click, DOESN'T HELP.
37Lyndatrue
>36 jjmcgaffey: I just now saw where this had been changed.
Tim, et al: At least change it back to what it was before. This is the very opposite of what anyone in this thread wanted. I would almost NEVER want to change the cover. I believe I've done so perhaps 3 or 4 times. This makes it more likely that I might click it by accident, and I don't need any help in that direction.
Have pity. At least undo this. Please.
Tim, et al: At least change it back to what it was before. This is the very opposite of what anyone in this thread wanted. I would almost NEVER want to change the cover. I believe I've done so perhaps 3 or 4 times. This makes it more likely that I might click it by accident, and I don't need any help in that direction.
Have pity. At least undo this. Please.
38lorax
>36 jjmcgaffey:
I just saw that, and was coming to report the same thing! Maybe we should file it as a bug, because I'm fairly sure that's not how it's supposed to be?
I just saw that, and was coming to report the same thing! Maybe we should file it as a bug, because I'm fairly sure that's not how it's supposed to be?
39miketopper
Hey all, sorry for the issues here. We were actually fixing a different set of bugs, but that fix affected this as well unintentionally. The Yes/Cancel form is now gone and replaced with a link that gives a confirmation dialog before actually changing the cover.
Let me know if you still see any issues.
Let me know if you still see any issues.
42MarthaJeanne
It is a big improvement. Thank you.
44Lyndatrue
>41 timspalding: Then it's new, and improved, and I love you (and @miketopper) for it. :-}
ETA. Oops (thanks, @lesmel)
ETA. Oops (thanks, @lesmel)
45lesmel
>44 Lyndatrue: Pssst. I think you wanted >41 timspalding:. Maybe.
46macsbrains
There is still one minor issue that's actually rather annoying. When I do choose to replace it cover it bounces me back to my main home page layout, and then I have to navigate back to the module. This has been recent behavior. Can we stick around in the module like when dismissing?
47elenchus
>46 macsbrains:
Confirm the same happens for me (Win10 / Chrome): note when using the Dismiss button, the lightbox returns me to the RMUC module, which I think works best and matches the prior behavior. When choosing Accept, the lightbox returns me to the Dashboard. Not an efficient or even intuitive workflow.
I posted this in a separate bug thread but closed it, thinking this thread covered it and was actively attended by LTers.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/247220
Confirm the same happens for me (Win10 / Chrome): note when using the Dismiss button, the lightbox returns me to the RMUC module, which I think works best and matches the prior behavior. When choosing Accept, the lightbox returns me to the Dashboard. Not an efficient or even intuitive workflow.
I posted this in a separate bug thread but closed it, thinking this thread covered it and was actively attended by LTers.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/247220
48lorannen
>46 macsbrains: Huh, yeah, that's an odd change, and I'm seeing the same behavior myself. We should definitely change this. At the latest, I'll add it to my list for next week's Bug-Whacking Wednesday activities.
49timspalding
Did Mike already fix this? I'm not getting it.
50macsbrains
>49 timspalding:. I just tested it again right now and I'm still getting bounced to my dashboard if I change my cover from the RMUC module. Win 10; FF 50.1.0. Dismissing covers works fine.
51Maddz
Seeing a similar behavior when editing covers from the stat/memes / covers / no covers; here when you change the cover or click back or do anything else to the book it bounces you back to the first page of the list not into the current page even if you have made no change to the cover. I would expect to be bounced to the first page of the list if I had chosen a cover but not when all I did was to check there was (still) no suitable cover.
52miketopper
Will push a fix for this today.
53miketopper
ok, this should be working properly now.
54lorannen
>53 miketopper: Thanks, Mike!

