Why I voted "no"? (Tag separation/combination) #8

Time for a new thread on this subject.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/series%3A+bones

is used on two different series, although it is only used for one of these once

https://www.librarything.com/tag/The+Bones+Series

is only used on one of them, and it seems would not apply to the other

The other one is 'Jeffery Bones'.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Sverige+under+1990-talet Google-translates as Sweden during the 1990s
http://www.librarything.com/tag/Sverige+under+1900-talet Google-translates as Sweden during the 1900s

I don't know Swedish, but even without Google they didn't look like they should be combined.

>4 prosfilaes:

I do know Swedish, and you're right, those definitely should not be combined. Note also that the only user of both is the same guy.

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>4 prosfilaes:, >5 AndreasJ:

That one looks like someone misreading the tags, easy to do when you're looking at a lot of them for possible combination.

Scandinavian is of or relating to Scandinavia. Scandinavia is an ethno-cultural region in Northern Europe. http://www.librarything.com/tag/Scandinavian+%28Norway%29

"man-eater" (with quotation marks) is used figuratively. man-eater (without quotation marks) is used literally.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/man-eater#combine

and Maneater (one word, no - ) is the name of a video game, which one of the tag uses is evidently referring to

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Maneater

ETA:

coking may be used mainly as a typo of cooking but it has its own meaning and as such should not be combined.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/coking

ooking currently has just one use which is as a typo of cooking, but it is just as likely to be a typo for a whole host of other words (looking, booking...)

https://www.librarything.com/tag/ooking

A book may be tagged "New Zealand" even if that isn't the subject of the book (for instance, it may be set in New Zealand, or mention New Zealand): http://www.librarything.com/tag/Subject%3A+New+Zealand#combine

"author: charles dickens" is used for books by Charles Dickens. "authors: Charles Dickens" is not. (The book it is used on appears to be a rip-off of Oliver Twist using Dickens as a character.) http://www.librarything.com/tag/author%3A+charles+dickens#combine

Эдо is Edo written in cyrillic. Edo is the historical name of the city of Tokyo and the bay area around it. It is also the name of a language. Thus Эдо should not be combined with Japan (Tokugawa Period).
https://www.librarything.com/tag/%D0%AD%D0%B4%D0%BE

Attempt to combine a tag with a tagmash: https://www.librarything.com/tag/p+g+wodehouse

Another attempt to combine a tag with a tagmash: https://www.librarything.com/tag/16th+American+President

>267 starbox
(in topic #7)

I'm not sure about 'German literature' being same as littérature germanique. 'Germanic' according to Wikipedia would also include Scandinavia. I think the correct translation would be litterature allemande.

I believe that starbox means the combination proposed for

http://www.librarything.com/tag/litt%C3%A9rature+germanique and
http://www.librarything.com/tag/German+literature

Cheers.
KB

Historical Britain covers history books about Britain. Historical: Britain mostly refers to historical novels set in Britain (such as the Horatio Hornblower books).

http://www.librarything.com/tag/historical+britain
http://www.librarything.com/tag/historical%3A+Britain

>13 kuuderes_shadow:

Attempt to combine a tag with a tagmash: https://www.librarything.com/tag/p+g+wodehouse

I don't think that's a tagmash, at least it's not meant to be. It appears to be a transliteration of P.G. Wodehouse's full name, last name first.

Same situation with Another attempt to combine a tag with a tagmash: https://www.librarything.com/tag/16th+American+President.

They appear as tagmashes because the person is using the standard "last name comma first name" method.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Staten+Island+%28New+York should not be combined with Staten Island as there is also a Staten Islad in California.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staten_Island_(California)

There's also a Staten Island, Argentina, which may be more famous than the Californian one (certainly it's WP page is several times longer and it's listed earlier on their disambiguation page).

>12 lilithcat:

I agree with your assessment of the non-combinability of the tags, but Dodger is not a rip-off of anything. Homage, perhaps, but Pratchett was far too good of a writer to be accused of ripping off anyone.

> 19

I accept your amendment!

Half the uses of "Nashorn" seem to be referring to the tank.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Nashorn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashorn

pedantry: Something 500 pages long is 500+ pages but not over 500 pages, thus the two tags mean different things.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/over+500+pages

>21 kuuderes_shadow:

Surely the "+" means "more than"?

Technically, the 500+ means "500 and up" while technically the other one is "501 and up," but that seems a ridiculous distinction to make, keeping them separate due to one page.

The meaning of the two things is different, though, to the point where there are a large number of books out there for which 500+ pages would be an accurate tag but over 500 pages would not (and given the number of uses the main tag would be the "over 500 pages" one, and as such this is the one that would show up on the work page). Thus it's not ridiculous at all.
Plus if there was a tag for 501+ pages then I would certainly vote for that to be combined with over 500 pages, and then you'd be left with 500+ pages being combined with 501+ pages.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/%22Bones%22

"Bones" (with quotes) is very specific to a series that is related to the TV show by the same name. All written by Kathy Reichs.
bones (no quotes) is a general catch all tag for anything relating to the parts of a skeleton.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/warrier is up for combining with warrior. In this case, yes, it's just a misspelling, but "Warrier" has it's own meanings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manju_Warrier

It seems to me that someone putting combinations up ought to have at least looked at both pages, and maybe even checked google/wikipedia for alternate meanings. Maybe I'm being unreasonable.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/key+words is up for combining with "keyword." If you look at the books, "key words" is about learning language -- children's books; whereas "keyword" is about searching and indexing.

>27 MarthaJeanne:

You're not being unreasonable. It should be standard procedure.

"Calcio" is the name of a town in Italy, as well as being the Italian word for "soccer": http://www.librarything.com/tag/Calcio#combine

http://www.librarything.com/tag/cryptography is not the same as cryptograph

Attempt to combine tag & tag mash: http://www.librarything.com/tag/psychology

Manx is also a breed of cat.

>33 jefbra:

What is the proposed combination? And may we have a link, please?

>35 jefbra:

thanks

http://www.librarything.com/tag/gynecology%3B+oncolgy not the same as Obstetrics & Gynecology

Wasn't there discussion about symbols in tags and whether they should be combined with the main tag?

http://www.librarything.com/tag/%23desert
http://www.librarything.com/tag/%2Adesert
http://www.librarything.com/tag/%23death
http://www.librarything.com/tag/%40dictionary

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Australin might be a misspelling, but it's also a genetic something or other (some sort of chromosomal protein, I think): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2234246/

http://www.librarything.com/tag/hanes might be Welsh for "history" (is it really? huh, learn something new every day!); but it's also a surname, a brand name, the name of an elementary school (at least one) in the US, etc. I'm sort of waffley about this tag.

1. I'm pretty sure the 300+ titles are either history or Welsh history related
2. If there's a book on the Hanes brand/company/school/etc, I would hope someone would clarify that in the tag (e.g. Hanes - Brandname, Hanes - School, etc)

>40 lesmel: Even without the possibility that someone could mean the brand (without knowing that the word means something in another language), this is one of the times when usage counts. The lists are very different.

>41 MarthaJeanne: The only problem I see with counting usage against combining, though, is that you have a bunch of other non-English words that mean "history" and they are combined with the history tag. If you look at the tags separate from "history" as a tag, the lists will be very different:

http://www.librarything.com/tag/%D0%98%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F&n...
http://www.librarything.com/tag/%CE%99%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B1&n...
http://www.librarything.com/tag/geschiedenis&norefer=1

I still voted no, because "hanes" can mean other things than "history."

*headdesks* http://www.librarything.com/tag/Red+Sox Anyone taken time to look at the disambiguation page on Wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sox_(disambiguation)

"Red Sox" covers more than "Boston Red Sox" or "baseball red sox"

Does this matter? If "Red Sox" is predominantly understood to be "Boston Red Sox," should the votes be yes and no effort made to separate the already combined tags?

>43 lesmel: Sure, but even Wikipedia redirects you from Red Sox to Boston Red Sox instead of the Red Sox (disambiguation) showing that they realize that the vast majority of the time someone searches for just Red Sox they mean the Boston team. If someone meant the Brantford Red Sox for their tag they would put Brantford Red Sox as the tag and not just Red Sox.

>39 lesmel:

I generally vote against combining a tag with a symbol and the same tag without a symbol. It often has a specific meaning for the user.

>43 lesmel:

As far as I'm concerned, it matters. I think "Red Sox" and "Boston Red Sox" should be kept separate (or separated where they are currently combined).

>43 lesmel: I think we've had this discussion before about combining specific teams with less specific nicknames. Cowboys shouldn't combine with Dallas Cowboys. Yankees shouldn't be combined with New York Yankees. White Sox shouldn't be combined with Chicago White Sox. Ducks shouldn't be combined with Anaheim Ducks or Anaheim Mighty Ducks...

Yeah, you get the idea.

Nobody is going to use an unadorned "Red Sox" to refer to the minor league teams. "Yankees", "Cowboys", and "Ducks" all have meanings outside of sports and of course should not be combined with the team names, but that's not the case for the Sox.

>47 lorax:

But "Red Sox" may well be used for a history of the sport that refers to teams other than the Boston Red Sox.

>48 lilithcat:

That's what the first sentence was; nobody with enough interest in baseball to have a history of the sport is going to use "Red Sox" to refer to a different team, and AFAIK all the other teams with that name are or were minor league affiliates of the Boston Red Sox. (I don't think the Cincinnati Red Stockings were ever referred to by that name; I could be wrong, but even so anyone interested in baseball is going to know that an unqualified "Red Sox" means Boston.

"1918-1933" is not the same date range as "1918-1919": http://www.librarything.com/tag/Germany+-+Politics+and+government+-+Weimar+Repub...

There are a lot of mispellings that could also be mispellings for other things right now.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/cartonning could easily also be a mispelling of cartoning, and is used that wat often on the web.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/druid
I also found other uses for the mispellings suggested here.

Re: http://www.librarything.com/tag/Charles+Drawin
http://www.charlesdrawin.com

Recent no-votes of mine:

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Einstein+und+Z%C3%BCrich and http://www.librarything.com/tag/Einstein+in+Z%C3%BCrich don't quite have the same meaning, and are used by the same person

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Lake+Geneva is used on books about the lake in the Alps and the town in Wisconsin, if not other places
http://www.librarything.com/tag/Geneva+Lake is only used on books about the lake in Wisconsin (and the town on its shores)

http://www.librarything.com/tag/30.+Discworld is being used on book 34, not book 30 (as its proposed combination tag is exclusively)

http://www.librarything.com/tag/29.+Discworld is being used on book 33, not book 29 (as its proposed combination tag is exclusively)

"Watch on the Rhine" is used primarily for the play by Lilian Hellman, while "Die Wacht am Rhein" is used only for Casablanca and is a reference to the song of that name.

>54 gilroy:

Thanks, I thought I'd included that. Moving too fast, I guess!

English language is predominantly used for books about the English language whereas Language: English is predominantly just saying that English is the language the book is written in.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/English+language

While the usage of the tag suggests it could be a typo for WW II, "WWI II" could be legitimately used for world war 1 and 2 (which is also a possible meaning of its actual use) or indeed a second book on world war 1, or just as easily as a typo for WWIII. Thus it shouldn't be combined with something about WWII.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/WWI+II+England

I'm not comfortable with http://www.librarything.com/tag/Christmas+Handicrafts
http://www.librarything.com/tag/basteln+weihnachten

Basteln refers to doing crafts as amateurs - I would expect patterns for making things yourself. Handicrafts could also refer to things made by professional craftspeople.

A passenger train is a train that carries passengers. A train passenger is a passenger on a train.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/train+passenger

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ETA:
The Rings of Saturn is a novel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rings_of_Saturn
The usage of the tag in question is obviously used for this and not for the literal rings of the planet Saturn

https://www.librarything.com/tag/The+Rings+of+Saturn

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ETA #2:
Space Man (2 words) is a comic series.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Space+Man

"The Resistance" refers to anti-Nazi partisan movements during World War II. "resistance" is a lot more general.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/resistance#combine

American and American (USA) are not the same thing.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/American+%28USA%29+essays

There are a number of uses for Lundy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lundy_(disambiguation)

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Lundy+Island

Commentary shouldn't be combined with the thing being commented upon. This includes the Old Testament.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Old+Testament
http://www.librarything.com/tag/Commentary+on+the+Old+Testament

Predator and Prey is the title of a series (https://www.librarything.com/series/Predator+and+Prey) and the majority of the uses of the tag is for books of said series. Thus it should not be combined with Prey and Predator.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Predator+and+Prey

Medical - Examinations is so far only books with practice tests having to do with medical professions. "Medical" here seems to be a header or tier. Medical examinations so far only seems to have books, including children's books, about doctors examining patients.

For similar reasons, I voted against Physical Examinations.

Bourgois is mostly being used on books published by Christian Bourgois.

English/History is half used for a book about the history of the English language, and half on Elie Wiesel's Night. It's proposed for combination with English History, which is combined with a ton of the variations of things like "England - History". I'm guessing the "English/History" was tagged on Night to refer to what kind of classes it's used in, or the language (and topic) of that copy, not because it has anything to do with the history of England. I'm similarly doubtful about such intentions for the books tagged at English; History and History/English, as well as a few others, though I've mostly voted "undecided" on the rest of the proposals at English History.

"Communication" and "reasoning", verbal or non-, are not the same thing: http://www.librarything.com/tag/nonverbal+communication#combine

"Art his-story" should not be combined with "art history": http://www.librarything.com/tag/Art+his-story#combine

It is not a typo. The only person using it also has tags "His-story" and "Her-story", so is clearly making a distinction. (And you've got to love some of the other tags: "a merry can literature", "Rushin' music", "larfs" - great sense of humor!)

http://www.librarything.com/tag/death+sentence
vs.
http://www.librarything.com/tag/The+Death+sentence

"The Death Sentence" is tagged on one book about terminal cancer. "Death Sentence" seems to all be about capital punishment.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Negland in this case is a mispelling, but Negland is a surname (http://www.librarything.com/author/neglandcharlottes)

In much the same way as >56 kuuderes_shadow:, couldn't History:English (http://www.librarything.com/tag/History%3AEnglish) mean histories written in English rather than English histories? If so, there are several combinations with a variant for History:English.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/English+History#combine

http://www.librarything.com/tag/god+worship
vs.
http://www.librarything.com/tag/The+Worship+of+God

Not the same thing.

"Sky & Earth" is used for a book by that name. So not the same as "Earth & Sky".

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Sky+%2526+Earth#combine

I don't know what Farbenlehre is, but metamerism doesn't want combining with color theory. I voted no to all to be on the safe side but if Farbenlehre wants combining with one of these please point this out and I'll correct it.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Farbenlehre

Farbenlehre translates as colour theory. However, in German this is so connected with Goethe, that they can't really be consider to be the same in my opinion.

>74 MarthaJeanne: I agree.

I voted for combining farbenlehre and color theory. After looking at the German Wikipedia article on farbenlehre ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farbenlehre ), it did not seem to me that farbenlere is so connected to Goethe, that one might want to search out another word for color theory in German to encompass the greater breadth that one finds in English.

Farbenlehre is used on 15 books, 5 of which are by or about Goethe.

Goethe shows up once on the first page of Color Theory, and then not at all for the next few pages. Farbtheorie is combined with color theory, and is what I would probably use in German if I weren't talking about Goethe.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Colour+-+Indigo is about colour from the indigo plant.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Indigo+Colour seems to be about the colour of the book.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Islamic+history

One of those messed up tag sets. Includes tags that are specific to the history of Islam, as well as tags that include (and are frequently used for) history according to Islam, the impact of Islam on world history and so forth.
I voted no to all four proposals to prevent the mess from getting even worse.

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Some more while I'm at it:
https://www.librarything.com/tag/Children's+Christian+Fiction
could be Christian Fiction belonging to children or for children. Whereas Children Christian Fiction could be Fiction about Christian children or children in Christian fiction. Any overlap between the two tags would likely be a result of poor use of English.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Christian+historical+fiction and https://www.librarything.com/tag/christian+history+fiction
I would see Christian history fiction as fiction about Christian history, fictional depictions of Christian history or even arguments that Christian history is fictional. Christian historical fiction would be more likely to be Christian fiction that is historical. Unlike the previous one there is a definite and large overlap but they're not quite the same thing.
On which note I spotted a few separations that need making...

The tag fish is used for books about fish. The tag "fish" is not.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/%22fish%22#combine

"Middle East" and "muddle east" should not be combined: http://www.librarything.com/tag/muddle+east#combine

One person uses "muddle east", and he uses "Middle East" on the same book. Thus it seems fairly evident that "muddle east" is intentional.

News/ Media is used for books about news and books about other media, not just news media.

First 'person' belongs to a book ostensibly written by a cat. Those single quotation marks mean something.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/dfgghr15

>83 lilithcat: Link should be http://www.librarything.com/tag/first+%27person%27

First edition with dust jacket signed by author would seem to indicate that it is the dust jacket that the author has signed. First edition with dust jacket; signed by author would be for any first edition that has been signed by the author and which has a dust jacket.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/First+Edition+with+dust+jacket+signed+by+author

(note there are two proposals for this combination, only one of which is visible in the link above)

I disagree. It could be that, but since commas can't be in tags, and it's pretty much never that the dj is signed but the book itself, I'd assume those were all just qualities of the book - 1st ed, dj, signed.

>84 MarthaJeanne:

Thanks, I was doing several things at once. The hazards of multi-tasking!

>87 lilithcat: Of course I never make mistakes even when multitasking. And if you believe that one...

"Fantasy" is not the same as "sword and sorcery": http://www.librarything.com/tag/sword+and+sorcery#combine

While adar http://www.librarything.com/tag/adar is the Welsh word for birds, it is also a Hebrew month, and ADAR is a protein coding gene.

#Worldwar is used exclusively for books in an alternate-history series by Harry Turtledove: http://www.librarything.com/tag/%23Worldwar

World War is frequently used for books in that series, but also for other WWII history, memoirs, and fiction: http://www.librarything.com/tag/World+War

I voted against Bretanha with Britain since it apparently translates to Brittany (as well as Britain?) and the first book tagged there is House of Tides: Letters from Brittany and Other Lands of the West.

I voted against usa nautical fiction with U.S. historical fiction since nautical ≠ historical.

I voted against Literature South Africa with South African literature since I don't consider them quite synonymous (it's not an across-the-board rule, but for the "literature" tags at least, I generally vote against combos that are "(place) literature" with "(demonym) literature").

Also: garage storage is currently only used on a book titled Budget DIY Storage edition, The Family Handiman. I assume it shows one how to make storage units in one's garage (the other tags are "Bookcases" and "kitchen storage").

Whereas storage - garage is currently only used on books by Ben Franklin and Ernest Hemingway. I assume that those particular books are just being stored in somebody's garage.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/luule

luule is Estonian for poetry, but in Finnish it is part of the verb 'to think'. It is also a woman's name.

>94 MarthaJeanne:

I speak Finnish and I am sure that nobody would use the Finnish word "luule" as a Librarything tag. It is an inflected form of verb luulla which means "to suppose" or "to believe" (incorrectly, or while admitting being uncertain) . You can use it as a singular 2nd person imperative form, but it would be almost nonsensical as a tag. You can also use it as a part of a negative form, but then you must use word like ei, eivät or älä in front of it.

How common is it to use first names as tags? I notice that people have combined hope with håp, too.

>95 inkcrow:

Of course, "hope" is also the surname of a lot of authors on LT.

There are proposals to combine "read more than once" with "read again and again", "read many times", and "read countless times". "Read more than once" could apply to books read only two or three times. The other tags suggest quite a few more readings than that.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/read+more+than+once#combine

>97 lilithcat: Two of those are Separation suggestions to take them out of "read more than once."

>98 gilroy:

I knew I should have had my second cup of tea.

There are at least two LT Local venues named "University Books" (as well as a couple of places I found that aren't on LT Local), so that should not be combined with "books for university" or "uni books": http://www.librarything.com/tag/University+Books#combine

I voted "no" on the proposals to combine New York (guidebooks) and New York (N.Y.) --Guidebooks.. While the former is currently used only on books about New York City, it could be used for books on New York State as well, and I don't think the latter would be.

Though not used that way now, "TX" is a common abbreviation of "telephone" as well as "Texas": http://www.librarything.com/tag/TX+history#combine

>103 lilithcat: I have to disagree. This is similar to the Red Sox tag I mentioned before. 99% of the population is going to recognize TX as Texas...especially when it is "TX History" -- same as 99% of the population is going to recognize that Red Sox and Boston Red Sox are the same thing.

There are lots of different meanings for TX:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TX

Not everyone lives in Texas. Or even in the USA.

>105 MarthaJeanne: True, but how many involve history? The vote is for Texas History and TX History. I still say this is similar to Red Sox vs. Boston Red Sox.

Several books in http://www.librarything.com/tag/Food+%2526+Wine refer to Food & Wine magazine.

Since people have been voting 'yes' on this.

Anger is not the same as Angel.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Anger+-+Biblical+Teaching

https://www.librarything.com/tag/series%3A+magicians

features two proposals that, were both to be passed, would link together a tag specifically about the The Magicians series (The Magicians Series) with a tag used for another series featuring magicians (magicians series).

Personally I voted no to the proposal to combine series: magicians with The Magicians Series as the latter is obviously referring to that specific series whilst the former is not (even if it is currently only used for books from that series).

OK, I goofed and mis-proposed a tag separation (Courtauld Gallery with The Courtauld Institute of Art). Is there any way to cancel my proposal, or does it have to go through the process now?

If it has to go through the voting process, please vote NO.

(Oy.)

>110 karenb:

It needs to go through the process. :)

>110 karenb: BTW It is not possible to separate Manx and manx. Capiitalized and uncapitalized are always automatically combined.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Manx

'Environment' is used only for the title of a story in an anthology, and shouldn't be combined with environment.

The repair tag weighs quite heavily toward fix-it-yourself type books about home/furniture/bike/etc. repair. It undoubtedly also contains books that themselves need repair, but that appears to be the only thing in ✄ (Repair) tag.

There are a lot of tags that are up for voting on being combined with . And getting yes votes.

http://www.librarything.com/author/grahambilly shows several Billy Grahams. Therefore http://www.librarything.com/tag/Billy+Graham and the tags limited to the one born in 1918 should not be combined.

Further to >114 omargosh:'s point: the tag "✄ (Repair)" may refer to books that have already been repaired, as well as to one that "needs repairing" or "needs repair": http://www.librarything.com/tag/%E2%9C%84+%28Repair%29#combine

American is not the same as USA.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/American+Food+Habits

http://www.librarything.com/tag/TAG+Reader+Books

Most of these are 'Leapfrog TAG Books'

Crusades is already combined with Cruzadas. Cruzados would mean (amongst other possibilities) Crusaders.

Similar to #119, Tag series is being used on a series about one Tag the Cat.

The double quotation marks in ""De Profundis"" are significant: the tag is used only for a story by Arthur Conan Doyle, "De Profundis", which has quotation marks as part of its title. Meanwhile, De Profundis is used for works titled De Profundis without quotation marks (by Oscar Wilde, etc.).

Jeb Bush may be John Ellis Bush, but that doesn't mean he should be combined with the "John Ellis" tag: http://www.librarything.com/tag/John+Ellis#combine I doubt Agatha Christie ever put him in one of her books . . .

"Lancashire" may refer to a town in Delaware, as well as a cheese, a surname, and other things that are not necessarily the county in England: http://www.librarything.com/tag/Lancashire#combine

Charles Lenox is a fictional character. There were several historical people named Charles Lennox.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Charles+Lenox

One of the books on http://www.librarything.com/tag/Charles+Lennox is really about a Lennox.

>123 lilithcat: My fault for not checking existing combinations properly. Separation proposals made accordingly.

The Science- Food, Science - Food, and SCIENCE/Food tags have basic children's books that seem to follow a scheme of tagging things like "Science - Dinosaurs" or "SCIENCE/Body", i.e. "science" looks to be some header to indicate a general topic. Not quite the same materials as at food science, whose few children's books tend to have titles like Science You Can Eat.

The " junk food" is used on a book called Vegan Junk Food. I'm guessing those quotes are intentional (it's the only tag on that book in quotes ... same as "food science" now that I think about it).

>125 kuuderes_shadow: Although I think it would be fair enough to combine the various Lancashire UK and Lancashire England tags, once separated. And the same for other counties.

"Febr." could be February in any year. It could also mean "febrile". Who knows? No books use the tag. "Februrary 2016", on the other hand, is pretty specific. Yet the combination has 3 "yes" votes!

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Febr#combine

Just a clarification on the two proposals I had for "Shared World" (http://www.librarything.com/tag/shared+world): the actual proposal is to "SharedWorld". The "SharwedWorld" was a fat-fingered typist mistake. I advocate a no vote on that one. TY.

I actually think that the Courtauld Institute of Art and the Courtauld Gallery should be separated. They are not the same. The Institute is a higher education institution whilst the gallery is, well, a gallery. They may be part of the same organisation but I have one book that I've catalogued as specifically issued by the Institute. I have other books still to add that I would catalogue with the Gallery.

>129 RicketyCat: As I look at it the tag SharedWorld is specific to a singular series, where as shared world is not. So I'd say no to that as well.

>131 gilroy: isn't that just because it is only used by a single person?

The series is tagged with "Shared World" (2 words) as well, after all - and more often than it is with SharedWorld. Unless the latter, and more common, tag usage is incorrect or there is something within the series that means that SharedWorld is fundamentally different from Shared World, then I would say they should be combined. I see no reason to believe that either is the case.

I'm not sure if this is how the sole tagger uses it, but Nature Garden is a term for a specific kind of garden or park designed specifically for nature. I do not believe that this usage would apply to nature: gardens and doubly not for nature (gardens).

http://www.librarything.com/tag/nature%3A+gardens (note: link is to the central tag for the combinations, not the initial tag described above)

In fact that combination set seems to be a combination of proposals of tags for 'gardens for nature', 'nature found in gardens' and 'nature and gardens', with different ones more likely to be used for different things... And they're all used by only one person each so "how they are used at present" isn't really meaningful. Not that they're used for the same thing either.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/history+of+geology

Some of the tags proposed for combination with this one are used on books on the subject of historical geology, and all of these could be used for that, as well as some for various other meanings that "history of geology" cannot be correctly used for. The tagmash already includes tags that could potentially include these uses (although none of them obviously do at present) but that's no reason to make the combination.

The Mind and Life and Mind & Life tags are used on books related to Buddhism, and thus apparently related to the Mind and Life Institute. The book tagged Life and mind doesn't seem to have any connection to that.

The books tagged Country:Germany, with one exception, don't seem to have anything to do with Germany. Rather, the primary user of that tag, an organizational account, seems to use that format as an indication of what country they've sent that book to.

"Haida art" and "mythology" ought not to be combined: http://www.librarything.com/tag/mythology#combine

It seems fairly obvious, but until a moment ago the votes were evenly split.

I don't understand why people vote when they don't bother to take a half second to look at wth they are doing. :|

Not to mention all the positive votes for those where one half isn't even there!

>137 .Monkey.: and >138 MarthaJeanne:
But what else is there to do than just click-through and vote the way other people are voting* when faced with a mind-numbing wall of proposals that includes things as interesting/useful/important as combining M. C Healthcare- 2 copies with M. C Healthcare 2 copies and M.C Healthcare- 2 copies?

I wish some of the heavy proposers would take half a second to look at what they are proposing and consider things like: must I propose this combo right now just because I was capable of finding it? Is it the best use of 8+ other people's time and mental energy? Does every single combination of thisword1 with thisword2 in any order and with any punctuation between them always mean the same thing in a tagging context?

I'm not saying that the proposals are invalid. But sometimes when there are so many, and it's clear little consideration was put into it, voting turns into a tedious, boring, and overwhelming chore. Maybe I'm just not cut out for it. Some days I just give up. Those days are certainly better for proposals getting through that may be iffy upon further examination, but "well, everybody else so far has voted yes on it".

*In many cases, proposers immediately vote yes on their own proposals. While this isn't "against the law", I think it can create a false sense of "momentum".

I sometimes vote undecided on things with 100% yes votes and that probably do want combining specifically in order to indicate to other people that it is a tag that requires them to think about it before voting yes rather than just doing it blindly. Of course, this approach then requires you to go back over things occasionally to ensure that your undecided vote isn't the sole thing preventing it getting passed.

>139 omargosh: I agree, there are plenty of proposals as well that I don't get what people were thinking. Among them, many for combining things with some capitals into the all lowercase, when tags are not case-sensitive and they are already the same tag. :|

>140 kuuderes_shadow: I'm pretty sure undecided votes do not impact the count negatively.

>140 kuuderes_shadow: I vote no for that reason. Undecided is for when it's a language I'm unfamiliar with (which is many) or for when there's a valid argument either way.

>141 .Monkey.: They don't, and I wouldn't use them for that if they did. But if I think that something probably wants combining and then vote undecided then my vote isn't helping it to pass either. I've had a few too many of my own proposals (and ones I actually personally care about) get ditched while one yes vote away from passing to stand the thought of me doing that to someone else's proposal.

Undecideds don't negatively impact, but when they're there, it's true they can have the effect of slowing down some of the vote-yes-on-me-keep-on-moving-nothing-to-see-here momentum. But they're only effective that way if you happen to vote before it's met threshold. And if you don't use them "too much".

I think the capitals-with-lowercases combos are often just artifacts from somebody trying to combine word1" with Word1 and running into the double-quotes bug.

Incidentally I've decided that from now on I'm voting "no" on every combination proposal featuring tags from different ones of the following blocks:
a - (place) during World War (number) / (place) in World War (number) or equivalents
b - (place) World War (number) / World War (number) (place) or equivalents
c - World War (number) in (place) or equivalents

The former is (or should be) focused on the place, whereas the latter is (or should be) focused on the war (think for example "world war 2 in europe" versus "europe in world war 2"). The middle is in there because proposals seem to be coming in from both sides, meaning that there's a high chance of them causing an indirect tag combination.

edit: there's too many to list them all but here's some where both parts of the indirect tag combination are actively being proposed:
https://www.librarything.com/tag/World+War+II+Italy
https://www.librarything.com/tag/World+War+II+-+Greece
https://www.librarything.com/tag/WWII+France

#145
I gather you are ok with Italy in WW!!, already combined with World War II Italy, as I don't see a separation proposal.

Or rather I was too lazy to do it at the time (pushing through new separation proposals is neither as easy nor as urgent as blocking new combinations from being made).

Incidentally the https://www.librarything.com/tag/WWII+Poland one is another case of the indirect combination - WWII in Poland is part of the tag at present, and there is a proposal to combine Poland in WW2 with it, for which my vote is currently the only "no".

And we actually have a direct proposal of Britain in WWII with WWII in Britain here: https://www.librarything.com/tag/Britain+in+WWII
I'm leaving that one alone with the separations for now as there's quite a lot of them that would want making. If the others show signs of passing then I'll propose them.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Mediengeschichte

Mediengeschichte is History of Media, not Mass media

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Naha+Hills

Naha Hills is not the same as Naga Hills, whether or not anyone has ever used it.

United States--History--1945-
United States--History--1969 -
United States History 1865
These tags have some (not all) proposals combining things like US history 1945 with US history 1945-, and I'm interpreting that hyphen at the end to mean "from that year onward", which is why I voted against those.

PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH - UNITED STATES - HISTORY
Presbyterian Church - United States - Doctrines - History
It's unclear what Presbyterian Church - United States means when considering that, believe it or not, Presbyterian Church in the United States of America (its wikipedia), Presbyterian Church in the United States (its wikipedia), Presbyterian Church (USA) (its wikipedia) and Presbyterian Church in America (its wikipedia) are actually each distinct entities, some of them splintering off from one another, others the results of mergers (with each other and/or yet other groups) (here is a "family tree"). Perhaps those tags are referring to a more general sense of Presbyterianism in the U.S. (yet another wikipedia article). Anyway, I voted no.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/US+Military+History
http://www.librarything.com/tag/military+history--u.+s.+a

Cognitive differentiation - First refers to the history of military organizations in the USA and would more likely be about formation and leadership, education, commonality of goals; Second refers to actions those organizations have taken and/or their use in certain campaigns.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/depht+psychology

depht should certainly not be combined with both depth and death, as that would combine those. I voted no on both.

children's; psychology is used on a children's book about emotions and feelings. Children's Psychology is in 13/14 cases books for adults about child psychology.

Counsel(l)ing Psychology is apparently a specialty within the realm of psychology. Counselling / Psychology and Counseling; Psychology seem to be more of an and/or usage, and are used in libraries with mostly religious books, presumably for pastoral counseling.

ENGLISH: Historical Fiction is used on Maus, which by an American author and not set in England, AFAICT. English Historical Fiction might also contain some books that are just written in English, but they mostly seem to have to do with England. A few of the other tags up for combination with the latter aren't even being used on any books.

Authorship - Psychology is used only for a book on the psychology of writers. Psychology – Authorship is used only for books on writing about psychology.

The only book tagged u.s. history art apparently reproduces pictures showing US history (subject headings in the Library of Congress record include "United States--History--Pictorial works"), and it's likely this is what the tag means. I've voted against combining it with Art history - United States.

The tag education psychology is proposed for combination with Psychology education and Psychology - Education. However, education psychology is used mostly for books about educational psychology, which is a completely different subject from psychology education.

Most books tagged Philosophy > The Bible are not about philosophy, so I've voted against a combination with philosophy of bible. (It appears that Philosophy > The Bible is being used for any books in class BS of the Library of Congress Classification, which covers the Bible in general, although it's part of a larger class that includes philosophy.)

The one use of French> History seems to be for a French translation of a book that is not about France, so I've voted against a combination with French history (which is overwhelmingly used for books about the history of France).

The only work tagged psychology - books is apparently about the psychology of book collecting, so I've voted "no" to a combination with psychology books.

Gray Owl is only being used on 3 works about the great gray owl, the bird. Grey Owl is currently only being used on 17 works about/by/referencing this guy named Grey Owl, nothing about the bird.

History -family and Family - History appear to be tagging books on the history of the concept of the family, whereas family history is a mix of histories of specific families or genealogical guides.

Code Red series and Series - Code Red are currently being used on two unrelated series that have nothing in common except the series title. So I see no nothing to be gained by combining them, at least not for now.

There's a serpentine series of proposals that combine the following: History/English, English. History, English -- History, English; History, English/History, History; English and English History with little regard to the fact that some are being used to tag history books in English, books about the history of English literature, books about the history of the English language, etc., not necessarily anything having more than a tangential relationship to the history of England ("English History" is combined with things like "history -- England").

Apple Corps is the Beatles-related company with the pun name. Apple Corporation is being used on books about the computer company. (Apple Corp. is "noisy" in that it's being used to refer to both, by different members, so, meh.)

apple ][ is a stylized reference to the Apple II computer, not just anything meaning apple.

["Apple"], "Apple Tree", and "Painkillers"] are used for titles of stories within anthologies (whose names may be just metaphorical references).

Finally, I'm not crazy about Story: Prince and the Pauper which is like literally saying the story in this Disney book is "Prince and the Pauper" and Prince and the Pauper story, which is being used on one work, Fortunate Son, I believe in a "this is a Prince and the Pauper kind of story", but not in the Disney derivative/remake sense.

Since the Jim Butcher author page has been split, I don't think it's a good idea to combine the general tag with a specific one.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Jim+Butcher

Is there no way to tag-never tags?

It seems like every now and then particularly these history tags get proposed.

>162 JerryMmm:

No, I'm afraid there isn't.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/made+into+movie

Please don't make the messiest tag on the entire site even worse. Especially not by combining a tag like https://www.librarything.com/tag/Bookbased+film that is about the film into the tag set which is mostly about the thing that was turned into a film.

GrailQuest (1 word) is a series by J. H. Brennan. All uses for the tag refer to this series. It thus shouldn't be indirectly combined with a mixture of tags that mostly seem to be a general tag for searches for the holy grail, and nor should it be combined with grail-quest, which is used specifically for the "The Grail Quest" series by Bernard Cornwell.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/grailquest

ein Film aus Deutschland is used specifically for this book: https://www.librarything.com/work/1866735
The user of the tag has typed out the German title, which is "Hitler, ein film aus deutschland" - which has then been separated by the comma in the title. It should not be combined with a tag which seems to be used mostly on German films and occasionally on what seems to be German translations of films.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/ein+Film+aus+Deutschland

http://www.librarything.com/tag/film+settings

is about the places films are made, but

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Film+-+Einstellungen

is about the settings on the camera etc,

Film - Biography is used primarily for biographies of people involved in film, such as actors and directors. Meanwhile, biographical film is used for films about people's lives.

Although there's no obvious distinction in meaning between Books on film ** and books on film, there's a clear difference in usage. The former is used mainly for books about film, and the latter is used mainly for books adapted into films.

'Living Fossil' is used for the short story of that name by L. Sprague de Camp that appears in the anthology so tagged, while living fossil refers to a short story by Elizabeth Bear.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/'Living+Fossil'#combine

>169 lilithcat:

Note also that the sole user of both tags is the same.

(I confess to surprise that nobody appears to be using living fossil for books about coelacanths etc.)

>170 AndreasJ:

(I confess to surprise that nobody appears to be using living fossil for books about coelacanths etc

I know! You'd think someone would.

>170 AndreasJ:

(I confess to surprise that nobody appears to be using living fossil for books about coelacanths etc.)

People seem to have settled on the plural for that:

https://www.librarything.com/tag/living+fossils

Now this will be a bit unusual:

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Detskaya+literatura - if someone here is in the Undecided, this is just a latin letters transliteration of the Russian term so they belong together :)

Ignore - had managed to X the Yes thread.

>173 AnnieMod: Okay so since this is posted in the "Vote No" thread, that means we should vote it down then?

>174 gilroy:

This is why I said it is unusual. We do not have a "Vote yes" thread.

>175 AnnieMod:

Uh, actually, We do.

https://www.librarything.com/topic/171504

>176 gilroy: - Somehow managed to "x" it :) Thanks! Will move it over

"Rock Around the Clock" refers to an article about phosphate shipments in an industrial journal. Rock Around the Clock refers to the Bill Haley song: http://www.librarything.com/tag/%22Rock+around+the+Clock%22#combine

"Milliner" can refer to a hat seller as well as a hat maker. (Also, in ordinary use it refers to a maker/seller of women's hats.)

http://www.librarything.com/tag/milliner#combine

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Élection+présidentielle+2012 and http://www.librarything.com/tag/2012+Presidential+Election are about different elections.

(The first one was won by François Hollande, the second by Barack Obama.)

There are also several other proposals to combine US elections with elections in those years not specifically US.

>180 MarthaJeanne:

Same issue with élection présidentielle and presidential election: http://www.librarything.com/tag/%C3%A9lection+pr%C3%A9sidentielle#combine

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Election+1964

Election of 1864 doesn't go with Election 1964...

I would expect the years from 2001 to 2009 to be covered by 1960's-2000's but not by 1960s to 2000.

2000 AD can mean a year, but the tag is used mainly for a series of comics by that title. AD 2000 seems to be used only for the year.

Why are the votes so different on https://www.librarything.com/tag/Presidents+-+US+-+Election+1976 from https://www.librarything.com/tag/US+presidents--2000+election ?

Both are combining where the subject is US presidents at x election with another which is about x presidential election. In both cases I voted no but in the former there is a majority for "no" whilst in the latter there is a substantial majority for "yes", despite the latter case having one tag used exclusively for a biography of George W Bush and the other used on two things focused on the process of the 2000 US presidential election.

Why are people presumably voting yes on the latter whilst voting no on the former?

P.S. there's also this one https://www.librarything.com/tag/Presidents+-+United+States+-+Election+1972 although the usage isn't as obvious in this case.

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ETA:
https://www.librarything.com/tag/i+never+finished+this

Currently only one usage, but this could be just as easily used on audiobooks (which are listened to, not read), or videos (which are watched, not read) amongst other things (eg. educational workbooks/books for courses that weren't finished etc.) which "never finished reading" is not appropriate for.

There's a similar situation for this (slightly more often used) tag:
https://www.librarything.com/tag/started+but+never+finished

>185 kuuderes_shadow: Actually, in the 1976 one, the second option does NOT include US in the second option, whereas the 2000 one both options specify US

You're right. The rest of the post holds true, though.

Chesapeake Bay Series is used for books in two series: Chesapeake Bay Saga by Nora Roberts and The Chesapeake Diaries by Mariah Stewart. Chesapeake Bay Saga Quartet series is used only for the former.

Once again, someone is trying to combine tags for Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., with Martin Luther King, forgetting (or not knowing of) Martin Luther King, Sr.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Martin+Luther+King#combine

And, once again, Martin Luther King is one of those famous names for which it can be assumed that if someone uses just the unadorned name it can be assumed that they mean Jr.

Classics, unlike classic, can mean the study of ancient Greece and Rome. This is clearly reflected in the tags applied to books like As The Romans Did: A Sourcebook in Roman Social History (29 "classics", 0 "classic") and the Oxford Grammar of Classical Greek (19 "classics", 0 "classic").

Not every work of historical fiction is a historical novel. For example, there are also historical short stories.

The tags children and children's are both mainly applied to books written for children, but books about children written for adults are much more likely to have the former tag than the latter.

Patricia Cornwell is not the only person named Cornwell. (Tagmash: Cornwell, --Patricia Cornwell.)

>189 lilithcat:
https://www.librarything.com/tag/Martin+Luther+King+Bio

There's a proposal to combine MLK Jr Biography with just MLK bio as well

I've voted against combining Master's degree thesis with MA dissertation because a Master of Arts is not the only type of master's degree – there are also Master of Science degrees and others.

The person using ╬ Humour has numerous tags for religious topics beginning with the ╬ symbol. I think the intended meaning is religious humour, not just "humor".

Gah, HATE when people try to combine symboled tags! >_<

Many books tagged Cyclops are X-Men comics, which feature a character of that name. His name is unlikely to be pluralised as cyclopes.

The tags "Modern Books" and "modern-books" are attached to such vastly different books that there's got to be a meaningful distinction. http://www.librarything.com/tag/Modern+Books#combine

>200 lilithcat: I think that difference may just be due to the nature of the tag users' libraries. The two tags are both used by just one person each, and in both cases the type of book that the tag is used for is no different from the general nature of the collections. Thus I see no reason to believe that the two tags don't have the same meaning.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/ROUS with http://www.librarything.com/tag/Rats+of+Unusual+Size

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rous

>202 MarthaJeanne:

Besides, the acronym in The Princess Bride is for Rodents. I'd vote No on that alone.

Obvious mistake but people are voting yes to it...

https://www.librarything.com/tag/fantasy

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Psychology+-+Parapsychology

The combo request is Psychology - Parapsychology and Psychology & parapsychology. One is listing parapsychology as a subset of Psychology, whereas the other is studying it beside it.

Also, I'm seeing a confusing instance. We have a vote to combine Roman Civilization with Rome -- Civilization, then a whole batch of separations for something similar. Any clues?

>205 gilroy:

Also, I'm seeing a confusing instance. We have a vote to combine Roman Civilization with Rome -- Civilization, then a whole batch of separations for something similar. Any clues?

That situation is not all that unusual. Frequently, improper combinations requiring separation are not discovered until someone proposes an additional combination. As a result, we'll often see a proposed combination by one person accompanied by subsequent separation proposals by someone else.

>206 lilithcat:
These were all put in by the same person.

>207 gilroy:

Now that is odd!

>20 lilithcat:
Guess I should have linked to it, huh?

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Roman+Civilization

I'm not sure why the proposal to combine "mystical" and "romance" has so many "yes" votes!

http://www.librarything.com/tag/romance#combine

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Bayern+München
refers to a football (soccer) team that plays in Munich.

Also a lot of yes votes for combining http://www.librarything.com/tag/fantasy+art%252Fillustration with nothing.

"Pagano" is used for a book about Giuseppe Pagano. "Pagan" is something else entirely.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/Pagano#combine

"tak" means all sorts of things in different languages, ranging from 'thanks' to 'not' to 'roof'. It thus shouldn't be combined with "yes", which is, amongst other things, the name of a band.

http://www.librarything.com/tag/tak

I'm not sure if it's used for this at all but musicale is a word in English that has an altogether different meaning to musicals

http://www.librarything.com/tag/musicale

A very quick look shows that http://www.librarything.com/tag/Sword+and+Sorceress is used on books not in the series.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Post+Nuclear+War

Okay, so I want to ask a question before I vote yes or no. There is a combo and a few separation requests for Post-Nuclear War and Post Nuclear War. Trying to see the difference and why the request to separate is being voted down.

It seems to me that there is a big difference between war that is post-nuclear and what happens after a nuclear war.

>215 gilroy: I presume that you have the distinction in mind that a post nuclear war setting would be one that follows a nuclear war and a post-nuclear war would be a war that occurs in a post-nuclear setting, whatever that may mean?

I really doubt that anyone is making that distinction when using either tag.

There are at least four well-known people named Cornelius Vanderbilt, so the one with dates after his name should not be combined with the names sans dates: http://www.librarything.com/tag/Cornelis+Vanderbilt+%281794-1877%29#combine

I've also proposed some necessary separations.

>218 lilithcat: There are at least four well-known people named Cornelius Vanderbilt,

Every hit on Google's first page for Cornelius Vanderbilt is for the guy born in 1794, so I'm not so sure that the other three are really that well-known.

>219 jjwilson61:

Maybe so, but the fact is that there are tags here for two of the other CVs (II and IV), and combining plain "CV" with any of the three runs the risk of mixing them up.

(P.S. I know you didn't mean to, but you're talking to yourself up there!)

I'm always against combining name with dates and a name without dates. Too many possibilities.

I would assume that "Linked Stories" means that there is a relationship among characters, settings, etc. that doesn't necessarily exist in other collections: http://www.librarything.com/tag/Science+Fiction+%3E+Space+Opera+%3E+Collection+%...

>222 lilithcat: Not to mention that one of the tags isn't even used by anyone.

looks like a failed attempt to combine with http://www.librarything.com/tag/Science+Fiction+%3E+Space+Opera+%3E+Collection+%...

There are some proposed tag combinations that seem to result from the proposer considering direct translations of English/Spanish without considering also alternate meanings.

So:

"fresh" and "fresco" : http://www.librarything.com/tag/fresh#combine
"soft" and "suave": http://www.librarything.com/tag/suave#combine
"sweet" and "dulce": http://www.librarything.com/tag/sweet#combine

"Jews--Poland--Biographies" is not the same thing as "Jews(Poland)": http://www.librarything.com/tag/Jews+--Poland+--+Biography#combine

Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry (Imaginary place) is used for some nonfiction (The Ultimate Harry Potter and Philosophy; Hogwarts, Narnia, and Middle Earth), so probably shouldn't be combined with Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry (Imaginary Place) -- Juvenile Fiction.

Spanish language (Spanish edition) is saying "the Spanish edition of a book related to the Spanish language", whereas Spanish language edition seems to be saying "This version of the book is one that has been translated into Spanish".

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Spanish+language+%28Spanish+edition%29

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Everyman's+Library+Pocket+Poets+Series
Pocket Poets

https://www.librarything.com/tag/~series%3A+Everyman's+Library+%28Pocket+Classic...
Pocket Classics

Not the same thing.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Albanian+Language-History
Could just as easily be used for books on history written in the Albanian language as books on the history of the Albanian language.

Not totally sure what to make of the tag and its combos here: http://www.librarything.com/tag/Book+3+Books+of+Bayern

>231 omargosh: I would guess that that member entered the tag on the add book page and forgot to take it back out.

>231 omargosh: From what I can tell, the one tag is specifically for the third book in the series, whereas the other tag is for three books of the series.

>233 gilroy: No, that series is all by the same author. http://www.librarything.com/series/Books+of+Bayern

>234 MarthaJeanne: Then the tag that omargosh linked to definitely SHOULD NOT be melded seeing as they have a lack of just the one author in it.

Through https://www.librarything.com/tag/Libraries+--+History we have an indirect proposal for the combination of https://www.librarything.com/tag/history-libraries, which is used on a book about the humanities and social sciences collection (including stuff on history) at the British Library with https://www.librarything.com/tag/libraries-history+of, which can only be about the topic of the history of libraries.

I am not sure that I understand that a book about a collection within a library is substantially different to a book about the library as a whole inasmuch the book in question s tagged libraries-history. Now it always a problem when only one book is tagged with a specific tag variant: is this an exception, a mistake, or a generalized thing. So, however we answer, we are projecting our own conjecture.

Another one that's got me confused: http://www.librarything.com/tag/Little+House+%233

ETA: and http://www.librarything.com/tag/The+Little+House+Series+%28book+2%29 and http://www.librarything.com/tag/Little+House+%23+4 and http://www.librarything.com/tag/Little+House+%23+5 and http://www.librarything.com/tag/Little+House+%23+7 too

Considinering that local? and local? ?? are only used by the one person, I'm going to conjecture that they have a difference in meaning to that person. And why are we voting on this kind of isht anyway? Why oh why? ??

Because some people like to waste their time and ours.

>237 vpfluke:
It's not "a collection within a library" vs "about the library as a whole"
But about "a collection within a library" vs "things about the history of libraries"

Or do you think that "libraries-history of" (ie. history of libraries) could be used for collections on history in general within a library? Because I don't.

Or a library might be just a library of history.

Yet another series case where the meaning is apparently the same but the usage is on different books: Magic Shop 01 and Magic Shop (#1)