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1JGL53
She's a god damn liar. And not a very good one. Apparently she doesn't understand the concept of video tape. Or she thinks everyone is stupid except her. Don't take my word for it, just watch this and learn - if you are not already aware:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
2lriley
She does take cognitive dissonance into unchartered territory.
Really if someone were to really work on those 13 minutes of video they could probably expand them to 13 hours or maybe even 13 days. There is a ton of material out there. If she is the democratic nominee her republican opponent will have a field day running TV ads on her IMO and they won't really have to investigate very hard or manufacture shit like they usually do. Sanders IMO has been so unbelievably nice to her whether people realize that or not. Could she lose to Trump?---I think it's possible. He's not going to be nice--I'm pretty sure of that.
Really if someone were to really work on those 13 minutes of video they could probably expand them to 13 hours or maybe even 13 days. There is a ton of material out there. If she is the democratic nominee her republican opponent will have a field day running TV ads on her IMO and they won't really have to investigate very hard or manufacture shit like they usually do. Sanders IMO has been so unbelievably nice to her whether people realize that or not. Could she lose to Trump?---I think it's possible. He's not going to be nice--I'm pretty sure of that.
3timspalding
I find the level of vitriol against Hillary pretty remarkable. Democrats are going to end up with a fatally wounded candidate. I hope that doesn't leave an opening for someone like Trump.
4lriley
#3--what?--going back to video to prove she lies over and over again? Looking at a Washington Post article today---'In Nevada, Clinton hit from left and right on immigration'---the gist of which was how she supported (just like many republican would be POTUS's) putting up a wall on the Mexican/United States border. Not sure exactly where she on that though I suspect she would deny, deny, deny. In the article a conservative group 'American Crossroads' has put out a video all about it---its aim to drive hispanic votes away from Hillary and undermine her chances to win in Nevada. Again if Clinton wins the democratic nomination the republicans will use all kinds of TV ads such as that against her. She has lied and contradicted her past time and time again-- and video is there to prove it. Saying she was against the Nafta for instance is about as bald faced a lie as it gets. The Clinton White House and administration went full bore on that and she and Al Gore and Mickey Kantor and even Robert Reich (who supports Sanders now) pushed it as hard as they could. I remember Sanders back then--he didn't support the Nafta at all---about two thirds of the democratic house voted against it and even somewhere around 40 republican congressmen. The Clinton's twisted arms and bribed their way to win a narrow victory---and then the Democratic party lost the house. IMO that had much to do with it.
5JGL53
> 2, 4
Of course. Unavoidable ignorance is no excuse now for not knowing what the facts are, about HRC, Sanders, Trump, Cruz, Bush, or whomever. All one has to have is a functioning brain and eyes to see and ears to hear and access to the news.
Apparently some people - and I am not just talking about republicans here - are falling short in some way.
Those who even refuse to look at the evidence or facts, or seem Hell-bound to put some Hellish spin from Hell on the situation - those are the ones that piss me off the most and they should be the ones that piss off all normal, sane, and rational people everywhere the most.
To put forth the "argument" that at least HRC is better than any of the republicans is like supporting David Duke because at least he is better than Dylann Roof. - To put it as politely as I can, I am SICK of this stinking god damn "argument" from the depths of Hell itself.
Bern, Baby, Bern! 2016.
> 3
"Vitrol"?
I imagine many millions of Jews exude a lot of "vitrol" still concerning Adolph Hitler and his Third Reich.
Should they just overlook history entirely and just move ahead and be pragmatists? And should we all, Jew or Gentile, just settle - at the get go - always - for the lesser of evils, because "that is just how the world works" or because "that is just how politics work."? F.T.S.
Not my business to care - still, this is America, the nation of unapologetic gossips - but, Tim - do you call yourself a Christian? If so, exactly how does that work? Did Jesus preach and teach "the lesser of evils" concept? If so, then please point to those red letter words. I must have been sick that Sunday and missed that particular Sunday school lesson.
Of course. Unavoidable ignorance is no excuse now for not knowing what the facts are, about HRC, Sanders, Trump, Cruz, Bush, or whomever. All one has to have is a functioning brain and eyes to see and ears to hear and access to the news.
Apparently some people - and I am not just talking about republicans here - are falling short in some way.
Those who even refuse to look at the evidence or facts, or seem Hell-bound to put some Hellish spin from Hell on the situation - those are the ones that piss me off the most and they should be the ones that piss off all normal, sane, and rational people everywhere the most.
To put forth the "argument" that at least HRC is better than any of the republicans is like supporting David Duke because at least he is better than Dylann Roof. - To put it as politely as I can, I am SICK of this stinking god damn "argument" from the depths of Hell itself.
Bern, Baby, Bern! 2016.
> 3
"Vitrol"?
I imagine many millions of Jews exude a lot of "vitrol" still concerning Adolph Hitler and his Third Reich.
Should they just overlook history entirely and just move ahead and be pragmatists? And should we all, Jew or Gentile, just settle - at the get go - always - for the lesser of evils, because "that is just how the world works" or because "that is just how politics work."? F.T.S.
Not my business to care - still, this is America, the nation of unapologetic gossips - but, Tim - do you call yourself a Christian? If so, exactly how does that work? Did Jesus preach and teach "the lesser of evils" concept? If so, then please point to those red letter words. I must have been sick that Sunday and missed that particular Sunday school lesson.
6timspalding
Godwin FTW!
7JGL53
> 6
No, that old dodge won't work. Please stand up like a real man and defend your favorite candidate or slink away in an unmanly fashion.
- So, would it have been more to your liking if I had used Stalin as an analogy instead?
As to notorious liars perhaps I could have compared HRC to one of these and you et. al. would then immediately discern the similarities:
Notorious or Outstanding Liars (other than Hillary Goddam Clinton, and in no particular order) -
1. Bill Clinton
2. Bill O'Reilly
3. Karl Rove
4. Ronald Reagan
5. George Duh-ya Bush
6. Dick "Dick" Cheney
7. Bernie Madoff
8. Richard Nixon
9. Lee Atwater
10. Kenneth Lay
11. Lance Armstrong (representative of several hundred professional athletes)
12. Benedict Arnold
13. Charles Ponzi
14. R.J. Reynolds (representative of all tobacco conglomerates)
15. Pinocchio
Of all the liars listed above I think HRC is the most like Bill Clinton.
Not a coincidence.
No, that old dodge won't work. Please stand up like a real man and defend your favorite candidate or slink away in an unmanly fashion.
- So, would it have been more to your liking if I had used Stalin as an analogy instead?
As to notorious liars perhaps I could have compared HRC to one of these and you et. al. would then immediately discern the similarities:
Notorious or Outstanding Liars (other than Hillary Goddam Clinton, and in no particular order) -
1. Bill Clinton
2. Bill O'Reilly
3. Karl Rove
4. Ronald Reagan
5. George Duh-ya Bush
6. Dick "Dick" Cheney
7. Bernie Madoff
8. Richard Nixon
9. Lee Atwater
10. Kenneth Lay
11. Lance Armstrong (representative of several hundred professional athletes)
12. Benedict Arnold
13. Charles Ponzi
14. R.J. Reynolds (representative of all tobacco conglomerates)
15. Pinocchio
Of all the liars listed above I think HRC is the most like Bill Clinton.
Not a coincidence.
8timspalding
Please stand up like a real man and defend your favorite candidate or slink away in an unmanly fashion.
Your candidate is Hitler. In a world of Hitlers, he's the Hitler. In a universe of Hitler-planets, he'd be the Hitler-sun. Hitler. Hit. Ler. And Stalin.
Your candidate is Hitler. In a world of Hitlers, he's the Hitler. In a universe of Hitler-planets, he'd be the Hitler-sun. Hitler. Hit. Ler. And Stalin.
9JGL53
Tim, did you ever see the movie "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"? It was really a great black comedy. The book was even better.
10timspalding
Is it about Hitler?
11RickHarsch
It's about Nurse Cheney.
