DWS gone. Too little, too late. Like with Nixon.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-resigns_us_5795044a...

Debbie Wasserman Schultz made me bleed out of my eyes and other places too.

She will not be missed.

She was the ultimate counter-example to the ancient cliché "Don't judge a book by its cover."

I.e., her exterior perfectly matched her interior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg

It is too little and too late. DWS was truly awful but it wasn't just her at the DNC. At least Tulsi Gabbard had the good sense to leave....now I think we know exactly what she was talking about.

Wow. Not exactly a revelation to those who have been following the interaction between the DNC and the Sanders camp, but still - must feel like a vindication for the latter. As >2 lriley: indicated, this is a perfect indication of how timing is everything in politics. A few months ago, these leaked emails might have made a real difference; now all all of this is gonna do is fuck up this week's convention. Jesus, what a year.

Joke break:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-maher-25-things-hillary-clinton_us_5793...

'Hillary's nicknames for her boobs are "goldman" and "sachs".'

I wonder - maybe not a joke - maybe she HAS nicknamed them as such.

thanks, jungly

Must have been some scene at the DNC getting Wasserman Schultz to pack it in. Hillary had to give her another job for her campaign which is not likely going to sit really well with the 20-25K? people (or others like them) who marched through the middle of Philadelphia yesterday on a blisteringly hot day---the DNC under DWS being in particular a major theme of their anger.

One moment HRC tries to appease and the next minute she finds a way to take it all back. You almost have to laugh at how tone deaf Hillary seems to be--these people could have been marching through the middle of the Amazon jungle for all she seemed to care. She should win in November easily but I swear she's going to make a competitive race out of it that she might even lose.

>6 lriley: She should win in November easily but I swear she's going to make a competitive race out of it that she might even lose.

Very much the topic of the latest MoA post. (Keep in mind, the writer is a German and EFL speaker; also, there's a running Putin joke in play.)

How Clinton And Her Shallow-Brained Media Do Trump's Bidding

ETA

> 7

Well, I'm not the smartest person in the world but I think I get the message that them liberal socialist lefty media peoples are trying to get across:

"The DARK people are the problem. We all must rally now to stop the DARK people before they completely take over and ruin our great Amurican country. The only solution to stopping the DARK people is to vote for trump - because only he can protect us patriotic Amuricans from the DARK people."

Is that about right? That was the message, right?

Well, against my better judgment I believe I am going to have to vote for trump now. For some odd and possibly subliminal reason I think I must vote trump - you know, in order to stop the DARK people.

Well, thanks liberal media. Good job. Youse guys sure must know what you is a-doing.

(I mean, I did get that right, right?)

>8 JGL53: The argument being made in the piece I linked is this:

The Clinton campaign gurus and their media surrogates took up the "dark" scheme to set Trump into a negative light. But Trump followers agree with the description. The Clinton message confirms their believes. The people agree with Trump's "dark" diagnosis. Picking up on that and reinforcing it only reinforces his message.

When Trump describes the world as "dark", he solely does so to sell THE LIGHT - himself:

"Your world is dark. Let me enlighten it. I am the only one who can do it."

Reinforcing the "dark" scheme is pushing Trump's selling point.

....

Here is the recipe. The journos' shallow-brained reaction is a main ingredient of it:

10:05 AM - 20 Jul 2016 - Moon of Alabama @MoonofA

A. Create "outrage"
B. Get huge media cov for 0 cents
C. Increase vote share
D. Laugh at stupid journos
E. Repeat

It works every time. Slip in a bit of plagiarizing and occupy the headlines. Hold a "dark" speech and let the Clinton campaign and her independent media make your point over and over again. Sell yourself as the solution to all the negatives they emphasize.

Whatever one might think of Trump - he IS a marketing genius. He knows exactly how the media tick and he makes them work for him without paying a penny.

The same encrusted, narrow and hardened view of omnidirectional belligerence which drives U.S. foreign policy is visible in the way Clinton and her media run the campaign. There is no room for diverging from the compulsory norm.

Trump breaks those structures and thrives. He uses the limits of mainstream framing against it. Like him or not, I don't, there is a genius in that.

> 9

I KNEW all this had something to do with marketing and advertising.

Advertising is a polite word for "propaganda" which just means "using basic human psychology against itself to sell people something they do not need or really want and may actually be bad for them." And the "something" can be a thing, an idea or a person.

Well, it's a bitch, fer sure.

So now my only message to the Amurican people is:

"I've Upped my attitude. Now UP YOURS."

Open insurrection: Live on CNN, Bernie addresses his delegates ahead of DNC to boos, jeers and heckling at the mention of Clinton, chants of "We Want Bernie!"
And now DWS has just decided she won't be showing her face. Smart move.

Here's the video. As I have been saying for weeks...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRzdojkiJQ

What is possible and what the media will talk about are highly disjunct sets.

I know one of those delegates. She got her head cracked in Chicago in '68. This is nothing for her.

CNN now reporting that DWS had to be escorted out by police guard from her own Florida delegation breakfast this morning, which was perceived as threatening to her physical safety.

> 14

I hope all these bad feelings and hatred will not be reserved only for DWS. There needs to be plenty for HRC, that sociopathic shitstain from the 9th Circle of Hell (or am I thinking of the 4th?).

HRC is the puppet-master. DWS is one of her fuckfaced puppets who does not wipe her own ass after taking a giant ugly Flor-I-Duh dump every morning without checking with HRC first.

At this juncture I think maybe donald trump is the quadruple-strength magnesium citrate enema this whole god damn country needs shoved up its collective bunghole. To paraphrase Amos 5:24 "Let the shit flow like water and puke like an unfailing stream."

Let's burn the whole motherfucking house down and see what if anything will arise from the ashes.

Maybe a beautiful phoenix. Or not.

Nancy Pelosi might want to get herself a police guard for the rest of the convention or she might wind up getting her stupid ass kicked:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/25/california_sanders_delegates_i...

What these people don't realize is that they're done. It's over.

Nice Democratic Party ya got there; shame if something were to happen to it!

This is an ultimatum. Either the ship turns around, or we take our half of the ship. And the lifeboats.

Just got a call from my father who -- as a retired federal employee pushing 70 -- is out demonstrating in the 100-degree Philadelphia heat. The scene outside the convention center is deteriorating quickly. One flashpoint at the moment is the Mississippi State Flag.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-thunderstorms-give-heat-dnc-prot...

Swarms of police are descending, and he's trying to get out of the way.

At this juncture I think maybe donald trump is the quadruple-strength magnesium citrate enema this whole god damn country needs shoved up its collective bunghole. To paraphrase Amos 5:24 "Let the shit flow like water and puke like an unfailing stream."

You've said a lot of idiotic things about this election. This is the most idiotic.

Elijah Cummings' speech is obscene in light of the systematic voter suppression and crisis-level election integrity issues we've seen in this primary.

>14 JGL53: >18 StormRaven: I happen to like the comment for its passion and poetry and encapsulation of the high cesspoolery that has been this particular election year.

Just continuing the running bibliography for things that turn my stomach...

Congressman Brady honoring McCain & the empty POW Chair:
Kiss The Boys Goodbye
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20835.htm
(though The Nation Institute seems to have purged its reportings here on account of their no longer being politically useful)

Watching the CNN folks trip all over themselves was fun for a while, but now they can't shut up about Russia. Guess they got the memo, since they seem very happy and confident to chirrup on at length in that vein.

C-SPAN it is.

> 21

When trump dumped on McCain for being stupid enough to get captured and then doubled down in saying he only admired those who did not become POWs - and then shot up in the polls another few notches afterwards - that was obviously one of the seven signs of the Apocalypse - and the Dems were too god damn stupid to read the "Mene, Mene, Tekel, Parsin" the invisible hand was writing on the god damn wall - because too many democrats are atheists, unlike Bernie Sanders, and thus do not study the god damn bible like god intended.

Let me translate for you establishment democrat ignorant-ass atheist motherfuckers:

Mene: God has numbered the days of your kingdom and brought it to an end;

Mene: (Repeat above for emphasis)

Tekel: You have been weighed in the balances and found wanting and

Parsin: Your kingdom is divided and given to the BernieBros and the trumpedilian horde.

You damned-by-god democrat establishment whoremongers are all liars and hypocrites and phony-baloney compromisers, ass-kissers, politically-correct twits and sellouts to the cackling Evil Wife of Satan in the balloon pantsuit, A.K.A. the Whore of Babylon, A.K.A. The Beast, A.K.A. The False Prophet - HillaryGodDamn Clinton.

One of the heads of The Beast (DWS) has received a deadly head wound, as was prophesized (Rev. 13:3), but will be healed (given a new job). Thus the democratic horde marches onward to its doom.

The time has come for us all to repent - before it is too late. I cannot emphasize this enough.

We must vote Green. Save yourself. The voice in the wilderness is calling. Do not ignore it.

Otherwise (Rev. 9: 6 through Rev. 10 - 10) During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them. The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. Their hair was like women's hair, and their teeth were like lions' teeth. They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle.

They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (the Destroyer). The first terror is past, but look, two more terrors are coming! The sixth angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the four horns of the golden altar that is before God. It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, "Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates." And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind.

The number of the mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand. I heard their number. The horses and riders I saw in my vision looked like this: Their breastplates were fiery red, dark blue, and yellow as sulfur. The heads of the horses resembled the heads of lions, and out of their mouths came fire, smoke and sulfur. third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that came out of their mouths. The power of the horses was in their mouths and in their tails; for their tails were like snakes, having heads with which they inflict injury.

The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood--idols that cannot see or hear or walk. Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts. Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven. He was robed in a cloud, with a rainbow above his head; his face was like the sun, and his legs were like fiery pillars.

He was holding a little scroll, which lay open in his hand. He planted his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land, and he gave a loud shout like the roar of a lion. When he shouted, the voices of the seven thunders spoke. And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven say, "Seal up what the seven thunders have said and do not write it down."

Then the angel I had seen standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven. And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay! But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets." So I went to the angel and asked him to give me the little scroll. He said to me, "Take it and eat it. It will turn your stomach sour, but 'in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey.'" - Blah, Blah, Blah - from this point on it gets REALLY weird.

You "party before country" democrats now know the deal and it is your free will choice. It's like Moses said to the Pharaoh (paraphrased) "You better turn yo ass around before it is too late. Otherwise you're gonna be ass deep in frogs, locust, and water turning into blood."

>23 JGL53: Bravo--Rabelais would have been proud!

> 24

My edumacation is spotty. I never read Rabelais. But I am a big fan of Swift.

No shame in spotty as you know from the theme song to Life of Brian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQgM2D4d3tM

Let me translate for you establishment democrat ignorant-ass atheist motherfuckers

Okay, let's put it this way: If you agree that you can be the first person to be killed by the Trump administration when they get into power and actually start harming people. When you agree to be the first person tortured by his regime. When you agree to be the first person sent to an interment camp, then you can talk.

Until then, you're just a whiny child throwing a temper tantrum.

> 27 And yet the tantrum rises above the level of mere speech to tickle the gonads of the gods!

>28 RickHarsch: One person's tantrum is another person's heteroglossia...

> 27

I keep getting these "Ayn Rand" vibes from you, SR.

Is there anything to that?

No. There isn't.

But then again, I've come to expect a complete lack of perception from you.

> 31

OK. That is good. But even though we are both atheists I am not going to utterly discount the greater-than-zero possibility that you are channeling Ayn Rand right now.

You certainly seem sure of yourself. In a sort of psychologically-unhealthy way. Like Ayn Rand. And your non-existent sense of humor? Just like Ayn Rand. Very much.

BTW, your attempts to insult me are so dull and flat I can't even get up a response of laughter. Your persona is like a bowl of cold oatmeal on a chilly winter's morn. Just - blah, snore.

>29 theoria: Bakhtin would love this thread.

I am just an amateur, I am well-aware.

What you guys want to do is read Robert Anton Wilson. That'll polish up your prefrontal synapses real good.

32: Pretty much everything you've said thus far about this election has been ridiculous. Seriously, you've taken positions that are deranged, misinformed, and dangerous.

When you say maybe we'd be better off with a Trump presidency, you're saying fuck you to Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. You're saying fuck you to women who need health care. You're saying fuck you to Hispanics. You're saying fuck you to Muslims. You're saying fuck you to African-Americans.

You stopped being any kind of "humorous" weeks ago. You've just become sad, pathetic, and sleazy. Unless you agree to take the risks that you have cavalierly said would be "worth it" to sate your irrational and uninformed hatred of the Democratic party, then you're just a child throwing a temper tantrum.

>35 StormRaven: No offense, SR, for you are generally a steady guy, and a valuable resource to fellow LT users, but I think YOU just threw a tantrum, and I really don't think you get Our Man Junglee at all.

> 35

OK, SR, after this your latest humorless rant I'm now giving odds of 5 to 1 that you are channeling Karl Marx. Rand didn't care about people, but Marx sure did.

36: JGL53 has been unhinged about Clinton for months now. I get that he hates her and would rather have a fascist as President than a run-of-the-mill Democrat.

36: Also, you've done a good job of reminding me that there's a reason I have you blocked.

>39 StormRaven: I figured you did, which is an odd thing for anyone to do, as you read or don't read at your pleasure anyway. But if my expression of respect for you coupled with minor disagreement is to you a blocking offense, so be it.

> 38

SR, you don't know crapdoodle about HRC. She is not a run-of-the-mill democrat. She is a narcissist like trump but hides it much, much better. But like a lot of smart people her lifelong political calculations may contain flaws that do her in in the end. We shall see.

And trump is not a fascist. He is a sociopath/megalomaniac. Not quite exactly the same thing. So you don't understand trump either. But I doubt in real life you failed abnormal psychology as you are really smart - anyone who doubts it should just ask you.


IMO trump will probably lose and HRC will probably win. I think I have said that several times before on this forum. In the meantime I will say true but not very nice things about them both - because the truth is important to me.

When HRC becomes President - let us assume that scenario - I will no doubt continue to point out the obvious, just like many others will - whether she is ever removed from office for corruption or not. I am convinced Providence expects no less from me.

I don't have much influence on the outcome of this election. I'm pretty sure my opinion counts for pretty close to nothing. You act as if that is not the case. I think that makes you the nimrod numb-nuts here, not me.

lol.

>41 JGL53: And trump is not a fascist. He is a sociopath/megalomaniac.

Well that makes me feel a lot better!

In defense of SR, I'd rather be a numb-nuts than ask for a kick in the balls.

Which might actually sum up our choices in 2016.

> 42

Well, krolik, maybe you are the one here with the great influence on the larger Amurican public.

Get out there and spread the news. If HRC loses, it may be your fault because you didn't do enough.

I don't think you and your opinion are of any real importance in the ultimate scheme of things but maybe somebody does. Maybe SR does. We live in a crazy world today. And crazy is as crazy does. Take it to the hoop, krolik.

Was always a second-rate dribbler, alas, but better on defense.

> 44

Me too. I am 6'4" but I couldn't palm because I have small hands (Don't tell anyone about my hands - it indicates nothing. No, really. Because my feet are size 11s).

I have to say that #23 just may be the most entertaining passage I've ever read on an LT forum since I've been a member. It's like Céline or Louis Paul Boon at their best. Apocalyptic OTOH hand and comic book on the other--that part about DWS being one of the heads (the now wounded head) of the beast is priceless. Excellent polemically and poetically and the right conclusions to boot. So vote Green.

Just to note---I'm still trying to figure out just exactly what Trump is---a narcissistic megalomaniac seems to fit the bill. Hillary has always seemed kind of narcissistic too though and the Clinton ambition to become POTUS at all costs at least borders on megalomania. My conclusion is neither one of them is going to be any good for the country even if Trump would probably be worse. Again we don't have to choose the lesser of two evils---look for light not darkness---vote green. It's a good color.

Agreed. I was in no mood to appreciate it yesterday beyond a snigger, but I'm laughing my ass off now. Nicely done.

Moj Bog, Iriley, you know Boon as well? Bravo. And yes, let us appreciate the writer and drop the bullshit dem fighting dem!

#48--like that?--take a look at this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLeKn8qVDGM

Brilliant, Iriliey, thank you

This is a personal idiosyncrasy, and something I would have been willing to swallow if I believed Clinton would otherwise be good for the country. But with that caveat, do you want to know the date Clinton went from meriting my dim regards to earning an indelible spot on my personal shit list?

February 15, 2011. The day she looked on placidly on as her security goons roughed up and bloodied a 71-year-old man who had turned his back to her in silent protest while she delivered an address demanding that foreign governments respect freedom of speech.
Subsequently, the man's name wound up the State Department's security watchlist.

The name of that man was Ray McGovern. That man was a retired CIA veteran analyst who had prepared and delivered Presidential Daily Briefings across three different administrations. Everyone in the room that day, it's fair to say, knew who he was and what he stood for: after his retirement, he had become a well-known peace activist with Veterans for Peace and the primary spokesman for a group you might have heard of, called Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veteran_Intelligence_Professionals_for_Sanity

When a man like that has reason to turn his back on you in silent protest, it's bad enough. When you look on with equanimity as he is beaten bloody, while you continue to deliver your remarks supporting freedom of speech without missing a beat or batting an eyelash? And when you then proceed to oversee his permanent security blacklisting? That evinces a special kind of chutzpah.

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/21/standing-up-to-war-and-hillary-clinton-2/
(Just to note: Coleen Rowley put in a nice word on the comment thread here as well.)

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/18/ex_cia_analyst_ray_mcgovern_beaten
http://truth-out.org/archive/component/k2/item/94579:police-brutalize-ray-mcgove...

http://billmoyers.com/2014/09/30/watchlists-fourth-amendment/
(Recap after McGovern won his lawsuit, written by Peter Van Buren -- We Meant Well)

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ETA: Here's McGovern (and a bunch of others) on the neo-McCarthyite farce of the past few days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_xw5UYC01Q

Democracy Now is good. For the record, d, I haven't voted since 1980 and left the country almost 16 years ago. This story is not unusual unfortunately. Thanks for the posts.

Frankly, davidgn, I agree; but then, I have seen all our masters of war master the art of illegal (odd concept, but grant me this) war, and so I don't require such ugly events to turn me against US leaders.