Take It or Leave It Challenge - July 2018 - Page 1

For those new to this challenge: More info and monthly index can be found in post #1 of this thread or this TIOLI FAQS wiki.

Simple directions for posting to the wiki can be found at the bottom of each month's wiki page.


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Your challenge for July, 2018, is to...

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Read a book whose title’s opening letters names an animal
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Rules:

1. The animal can be the first word or embedded over one or more words, but must begin the title.
2. The animal does not have to be in one complete word.
3. The animal’s name may begin with (but may NOT be preceded by) “a” or “the”.
4. You may NOT use the word "animal", but you may use another generic animal word (e.g. canine. insect, etc.).

Suggestions:
A Personal Matter (ape) – Kenzaburo Oe
Bee Season - Myla Goldberg
Catch-22 (cat) - Joseph Heller
Crow Lake - Mary Lawson
Flying (fly) Colours - C. S. Forester
Giraffe - J. M. Ledgard
Rat - Andrzej Zaniewski
Spider - Patrick McGrath

See what else you can find. Have fun!

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Other Fun Stuff (not part of the TIOLI challenge):

1. The July 2018 TIOLI Meter - Optional page on which you may track your TIOLI reading. FYI: This is not meant to be competitive - only fun!
2. Morphidae's List of Previous TIOLI Challenges - You may use this reference (Do a control-F scan) to avoid repeating a previous challenge. If your idea is similar to a previous challenge, just make it unique by adding a new "twist" to it.

Wiki Index of Challenges:

Challenges #1-6
1. Read a book whose title’s opening letters names an animal - msg #1
2. Read a book with a word in common with your most recently finished book - msg #3
3. Read a book you find on the top shelf - msg #5
4. Read a book where the author's first and last names have the same number of letters - msg #8
5. Read a book with at least two identical words with 4 or more letters in the title not including the subtitle - msg #11
6. Read a book with a word in the title that is also contained in a song title on Billboards Top 100 week of June 23, 2018 - msg #12 - word list

Challenges #7-12
7. Read a book that relates to a New Year's Resolution you made this year - msg #15
8. Read a book that appears on the same LT list as a book you've read this year - msg #16
9. Rolling Challenge: Red White And Blue - msg #18
10. Re-read a book - msg #24
11. Read a book that has been on your shelves for more than 5 years - msg #25
12. Read a classic novel about the history of your country - msg #28

Challenges #13-18
13. Read a book by an author you follow online - msg #34
14. Read a book won from the Member Giveaway or Early Reviewer in 2018 - msg #47 - separate thread
15. Read a Book where a name in the title or author matches a close family relative - msg #51
16. Read a book with a warm colored (red, orange, yellow, peach or pink) cover - msg #61
17. Read a novel where a named domestic animal is a secondary/important character - msg #69
18. Read a book with a wordy beginning - msg #79

Please old your challenge until the August 2018 TIOLI challenges are posted. Thank you.

Challenge #2: Read a book with a word in common with your most recently finished book

Words in subtitles do not count and no books in the same series.
Excluded words: a, and, of, on, the

>3 quondame: Ooooh! I see you're putting pressure on me to finish the book I just started for July's Challenge #1. At least it's a book that's not too long so I should really be able to get through it. :D

CHALLENGE #3: Read a book you find on the top shelf

It doesn't matter what top shelf...one of yours, one at the library, a bookstore, a friend's house. But it has to be the top shelf, which means there must be a shelf beneath it.

>5 jeanned: Wow, was there a lot of dust on top of my 'favorites' bookcase. Also a GRRM book, and three others, so I'm gold! I wondered where my copy of Crystal Dragon was.

>5 jeanned: We need our three best sweepers to get the dust off that top shelf! Haha!

Challenge #4: Read a book where the author's first and last names have the same number of letters

Note that, if the cover lists a middle name or maiden name, that, too, must have the same number of letters as the first and last names.

>6 quondame: >7 SqueakyChu: I've been working on packing up all the DVDs (DH finally having admitting he hasn't watched one in years), getting the rest of my books out of boxes and merging them with the ones already on shelves, and moving them all arround to get them in the order I like them on the shelves. So much dust. So many antihistamines. I still have a couple of top shelves to go. No telling what I'll find for the challenge.

>9 jeanned: Wow! You have to let us know what you find on that top shelf. I’m now going upstairs to see which books are the topmost in my house. I know that there are probably a few books on top of that second floor bookshelf. I am not taking a dust rag up there though! :D

ETA: No books on top of the bookshelves, but I did find lots of possibilities on the top shelf, though. I'll consider which ones later, during the month of July if I get through the many reads I've started recently and never yet finished.

Challenge #5 : Read a book with at least two identical words of 4 or more letters in the title not including the subtitle

Yes: Life after Life
Yes: Will Grayson, Will Grayson
No: Two by Two
No: The Art of Racing in the Rain

Challenge #6: Read a book with a word in the title that is also contained in a song title on Billboards Top 100 week of June 23, 2018

Here is the link to be used Billboard Hot 100 as of 23/6/18

Make certain you are using June 23rd chart. The charts are weekly so they may change a number of times during the month of July so: There is a blue left facing caret on the left side of the date. When clicked on it will take you back to the June 23rd date.

Excluded words: a, and, of, on, the

Include title of Song and chart position on the wiki.

Thanks to quondame we know have a alphabetical list of all words in the titles of Billboards Hot 100: https://www.librarything.com/topic/293141
I'll also cross post the Top 100 chart on this thread for the benefit of those accepting this challenge :)

>3 quondame: What if the word in common is the author's name? Will you accept that?

>13 Carmenere: If two short story collections with titles including the author's name had different editors only.

Challenge #7 Read a book that relates to a New Year's Resolution you made this year

You know how it is, you start the New Year full of good intentions to get fit and loose the extra weight. And it starts full of enthusiasm and commitment: you join the gym, you take the Christmas chocolate to the office so you don't eat them all your self, and it is all going so well... and by the end of January, it's all gone to hell in a handcart!

This challenge is to read a book that relates to a New Year's resolution you made. You don't necessarily have to have kept that resolution so far, this might just be the kick start it needs. It might be you aimed to read a particular series, or an author's back catalogue. It doesn't need to be a reading resolution. You might have decided to diet, so a book on healthy eating would count. Or you decided to take up cycling, in which case a book about Le Tour would count.

Please say in the wiki what your resolution was. If you feel like it, you may brag about how well the resolution has been going, or admit to a sympathetic bunch that it's all gone a bit Pete Tong.

Any questions, please ask, but I hope that makes sense.

Challenge #8: Read a book which appears on the same LibraryThing list as a book you have read this year

I was surprised, looking back at the table of previous TIOLI challenges, to see we haven't had one which uses the LT 'List' feature.

To find a book which would fit this challenge - go to the main page of a book you read this year. Stroll down until you see the 'Lists' heading. It will either say 'None' or give you a link/links to lists this book appears on. Follow one of those links and look for an interesting book!

(On the list page, if you click on 'Your collections' it will show only the books on that list which are already in your LT library).

>16 wandering_star: I had no idea the link to that lists feature was on a work's main page! Thank you for pointing that out. Very interesting!

Challenge #9: Read a book that fits into the rolling challenge of RED WHITE AND BLUE

For those of us in the United States, July 4th is Independence Day, and you will see red, white, and blue everywhere. Titles and authors could be used to fill this challenge, and the letters do NOT have to completed in order. However, the entire phrase must be complete before a new one can be started. (I hope I did this right in the wiki.)

>17 SqueakyChu: I've always liked the challenges that highlight one of the LT features!

>19 wandering_star: Me, too!

>1 SqueakyChu: Is a frog an animal? I guess so, since spider is, but wanted to make sure.

>31 quondame: Yes! A frog is definitely an animal!!

>16 wandering_star: I'm very UNacquainted with LT features and wasn't even aware of lists. Even if I don't pick a book from a list, I've been looking at them today and may contribute to these lists, at least in some of the areas where I read often.

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Challenge #10: Re-read a book

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Straightforward and self-serving. :)

It doesn't matter whether your book is a comfort read that you can almost recite word for word, or one that you remember nothing about; the only criterion is that you're sure you have read it before.

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Challenge #11: Read a book that has been on your shelves for more than 5 years
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Any book you own more than five years, note since when you have the book, or if you don't know exacly "before 2010" or similair. No e-books, re-reads are fine.

>23 lindapanzo: I'm so glad to hear that!

>3 quondame:

By 'most recently finished', do you mean now, or at any time to the end of July?

Challenge #12: Read a classic novel about the history of your country
Because I want to read some of the Little House On the Prairie books.

>15 Helenliz: I haven't made New Year's resolutions for years now. Any ideas.

Planned reads for the month. Wow, there are some difficult challenges.

Challenge #1: Read a book whose title’s opening letters names an animal - started by SqueakyChu
*✔Kitchen Confidential: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly - Anthony Bourdain (3.5)
Challenge #2: Read a book with a word in common with your most recently finished book - started by quondame
✔Dark Matter - Blake Crouch (3)
✔Little House on the Prairie - Laura Ingalls Wilder (4)
Challenge #3: Read a book you find on the top shelf - started by JeanneD
*✔The Bookshop - Penelope Fitzgerald (4)
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - JK Rowling
Challenge #4: Read a book where the author's first and last names have the same number of letters - started by lindapanzo
✔Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership - James Comey (2.5)
✔Like a Mother: A Feminist Journey Through the Science and Culture of Pregnancy by Angela Garbes (5)
Challenge #5: Read a book with at least two identical words with 4 or more letters in the title not including the subtitle- started by dallenbaugh
*✔There There - Tommy Orange (4)
Challenge #6: Read a book with a word in the title that is also contained in a song title on Billboards Top 100 week of June 23, 2018 - started by Carmenere
✔The Tea Girl of Hummingbird Lane - Lisa See (4)
Challenge #7: Read a book that relates to a New Year's Resolution you made this year - started by helenliz
*✔The Prince - Niccolo Machiavelli (4)
Challenge #8: Read a book that appears on the same LT list as a book you've read this year - started by wandering_star
*✔Circe- Madeline Miller (5)
✔The Diving Bell and the Butterfly - Jean-Dominique Bauby (4)
The Shape of Water by Guillermo del Toro
✔We Ate Wonder Bread- Nicole Hollander (4)
Challenge #9: Rolling Challenge: Red White And Blue - started by owlie13
✔Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error - Kathryn Schulz (5)
✔Erotic Stories for Punjabi Widows - Balli Kaur Jaswal (4.5)
✔Heart and Soul: The Story of America and African Americans - Kadir Nelson (5)
✔I'll Be Gone in the Dark: One Woman's Obsessive Search for the Golden State Killer - Michelle McNamara (3)
✔What We Lose by Zinzi Clemmons - RL Book Club (3)
Challenge #10: Re-read a book - started by lyzard
Dune- Frank Herbert
✔I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream: Stories - Harlan Ellison (1)
Challenge #11: Read a book that has been on your shelves for more than 5 years - started by FAMeulstee
*✔No Ordinary Time - Doris Kearns Goodwin (4)
Challenge #12: Read a classic novel about the history of your country - started by Citizenjoyce
*✔Little House In The Big Woods - Laura Ingalls Wilder (4)
Challenge #13: Read a book by an author you follow online - started by susanna.fraser
*✔Doc - Mary Doria Russel (4.5)
Challenge #14: Read a book won from the Member Giveaway or Early Reviewer in 2018 - started by neverstopreading
✔Feast: True Love In and Out of the Kitchen - Hannah Howard (4)
Challenge #15: Read a Book where a name in the title or author matches a close family relative - started by thornton37814
✔Storm in a Teacup: The Physics of Everyday Life - Helen Czerski (4)
Challenge #16: Read a book with a warm colored (red, orange, yellow, peach or pink) cover - started by DeltaQueen
*✔Tourist Season - Carl Hiaasen (2)
Challenge #17: Read a novel where a named domestic animal is a secondary/important character - started by Morphidae
✔The Wonderful Wizard of Oz - L. Frank Baum (4)
Challenge #18: Read a book with a wordy beginning - started by paulstalder
✔The Bell Jar - Sylvia Plath (4)

>27 lyzard: Whatever book you finished last before finishing the one listed. It dosen't have to be for any previous challenge, or even in next month, this months, etc. If not obvious as the example, the title should be included.

>29 Citizenjoyce: Good for you. I say I won't do it and that it's silly, and yet every year I do. If you don't set them, you'll need to share a read with someone who does make them and has entered a book.

>31 quondame:

Thanks!

>29 Citizenjoyce:

I gave up on the other kind years ago but I always make reading resolutions. They may not last but it's fun while they do. :)

Challenge #13: Read a book by an author you follow online

I'm willing to accept a fairly broad definition of "follow online." Follow on Twitter, like on Facebook, read their blog, watch their library here on LT, etc. List the site/platform where you follow them.

>29 Citizenjoyce: Every book with tag !roots in my library is part of my childrens/YA reading project. A lot is Dutch, but not all. If you can find a book I will read it.

>12 Carmenere: the link provided is now pointing to the Billboard top 100 for "The week of June 30 2018". Does that matter?

>36 Helenliz: Yes, it matters! There is a blue left facing caret on the left side of the date. When clicked on it will take you back to the June 23rd date. I'll also note that on my original post. Thanks for mentioning it.

>37 Carmenere: Thanks. I thought that might be the case, but thought I'd try my luck... My word was matching what seems to have been a new entry in week 30 June! I added it, then noticed the different date on the billboard website.
Mild bother.
>;-)

>35 FAMeulstee: Are you up for The Prince? I'm sure you've read it, but I never have and it's time I got around to it.

>39 Citizenjoyce: No, I have not read The prince, but DO want to read. I own it, so it fits reading my own books and that was one of two resolutions I stated in my first thread this year. I will add it to the wiki.

>24 lyzard: In honor of his passing yesterday, I'm going to re-read at least one of my many Harlan Ellison books. Perhaps Shatterday or Love Ain't Nothing but Sex Misspelled. I knew he couldn't live forever, but I am so sad today.

>41 owlie13: I didn’t know he died. I used to love his books. Maybe I’ll re-read one.

The brother of author Carl Hiassen was among the reporters killed yesterday at the Maryland newspaper. I've never read a Hiassen book but this might be the time to start. Tourist Season perhaps.

>43 lindapanzo: OMG! Where will you put it?

>44 Citizenjoyce: All my plans are in flux. I keep finding books I really want to read soon (and they're not necessarily books I'd planned to read for TIOLI). I do have some relaxing time off in late July so maybe I'll do better next month.

Maybe I could start following Carl Hiassen on FB.

>43 lindapanzo: My husband really enjoys Carl Hiassen’s books. I’ve never read any. So much bad news these days. I don’t live all that far from Annapolis. :(

I was especially horrified by this news as we have a niece here in Maryland who is a journalist. You probably know what went through my mind before I got all the details about where and what happened.

Challenge #14: Read a book won from the Member Giveaway or Early Reviewer in 2018

Straight forward enough. This is a challenge that comes up regularly.

Two rules:

1. Read a book from the January to June 2018 batches of the Early Reviewer giveaway, or one you won from the member giveaway sometime after January 1, 2018. Re-reads are OK.

2. It needs to be a book you won, not one that was offered.

If you've never done the giveaways before, there's always member giveaways that you're near-guaranteed to win. They have a rolling schedule, whereas the Early Reviewers for July end at the end of July and it may be as late as September when you receive the book.

Since reviews are required for ER books and generally requested/desired/coveted for member giveaways, I'm creating a thread for posting your review. They're optional for our purposes, of course.

Links:

• Member Giveaway


• Early Reviewers


• Review Thread

>47 neverstopreading: There are no Dutch early review books, nor member give aways. Any other ways to get a non-English book for your challenge?

>48 FAMeulstee: That's a good question. In this case - how about any book that you've been given, preferably in the past 6 months; does that work?

>49 neverstopreading: Thank you Cody, I think I have one book that qualifies for that.

Challenge #15: Read a Book where a name in the title or author matches a close family relative.

1. Embedded words allowed.
2. Close relatives allowed: Parents, Grandparents, Great-Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles, Siblings, 1st cousins.

I'll be reading Lucky Jim by Kingsley Amis because my brother's name is Jim. I might find a few others before the month is over.

>51 thornton37814: Hey Lori, I'm patiently awaiting for Challenge #15 to appear on the wiki :0)

>52 Carmenere: Ohh - I forgot to add it! Thanks for the reminder.

>5 jeanned: I was absolutely tickled when I saw your Challenge, Jeanne. All the library books I have checked out are are the top shelves of adjacent bookcases - one for fiction, the other for nonfiction. This one will be easy for me!

>41 owlie13: I may try to join you for Shatterday. I'm also looking at Harlan Ellison's The City on the Edge of Forever: The Original Teleplay that Became the Classic Star Trek Episode .

>43 lindapanzo: I've never read any Carl Hiaasen either, Linda. I was looking at Strip Tease.

>47 neverstopreading: Are shared reads allowed for your Challenge, Cody? I haven't been participating in the Early Reviewers program this year, and there's little in the Members Giveaways that both interest me and work within the time frame (and which I'd have reasonable odds of winning). There a few interesting looking children's books, but that won't help with a sweep because I put truly short books or single stories down in the Works section. If you don't want to allow shared reads, it's not a big deal. Thanks!

Does anyone have a book that they're particularly looking forward to reading in July? For some reason I'm really excited to read Torn by Rowenna Miller. I picked it up off the New Books shelf at the library and know next to nothing about it, but I'm intrigued. I'm also planning a reread of Tanya Huff's Tony Foster / Smoke Trilogy which opens with Smoke and Shadows.

If there's a book you're excited about, I'd love to hear it. I'm always looking for the next shared read!

>47 neverstopreading: I do belong to Early Reviewers and I have a book I won, but I don't want to read it. I belong to Amazon Prime and get a Kindle First book every month. Can I read one of those?

>47 neverstopreading: Kindle First would work for me, too.

I also get Net Galley and First to Read books as well.

>53 thornton37814: Thanks, Lori! LOL In the meantime I realized the book I planned to use doesn't fit. :( sigh

>54 Dejah_Thoris: >47 neverstopreading: Shared reads should be allowed for all TIOLI challenges.

>47 neverstopreading: shared readings are allowed

>55 Citizenjoyce: Kindle first is fine. I try to be flexible. Being too rigid can ruin the fun :)

Challenge #16: Read a book with a warm colored cover

Summer is here and hopefully that means long, sunny, warm days. My challenge is to read books whose covers are colored in warm tones - Reds, Oranges, Yellows, Peaches and Pinks to compliment the season.

Even though it is pouring rain and cool here in Victoria, B.C. where I am visiting my Mom, I am hopeful that the weather will improve soon!

>61 DeltaQueen50: There is a difference in your challenge here and on the wiki. Here you say "warm colored title" and at the wiki "warm colored cover". Wich one is right, or maybe both?

ETA: for now I assume you mean cover, as that is in the description of your challenge.

>24 lyzard: Regarding your challenge, can the reread be a different edition - I've already added the original book A bag of marbles to another challenge but realised when adding it that I'd already read the graphic novel edition that came out a couple of years ago.

>63 avatiakh:

Yes, I'll allow that; nice spin on the theme, in fact. :)

>62 FAMeulstee: Sorry, for the confusion. The challenge should read warm colored cover not title. I have corrected it.

Raidergirl3: Regarding Challenge #6: Read a book with a word in the title that is also contained in a song title on Billboards Top 100 week of June 23, 2018

My Name is Not Friday (Freaky Friday #46) - Jon Walter - raidergirl3

The song you are using was number 37 for the week of June 23rd. It was 46 for week of June 30th.

Please correct on the wiki as I'm using the June 23rd chart for this challenge. Thanks :0)

>66 Carmenere: oh, I just followed the link in the original message to see the list. I assumed that was the list to use. How can we see the list from the week of the 23rd?

>67 raidergirl3: There is a little blue caret arrow beside the date, if you click on that it will take you back to the week of the 23rd.

Challenge #17: Read a novel where a named domestic animal is a secondary/important character - started by Morphidae

The animal must have a name and play an important role in the story but not be the main character. Main characters must be human(oid), i.e. elves, vampires, aliens.

ETA:

DO Examples:
Mister the cat in the Dresden Files series by Jim Butcher
Pixel the cat in The Cat Who Walks Through Walls by Robert Heinlein
Einstein the dog in Watcher by Dean Koontz
Shiloh the dog in Shiloh by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
Pilgrim the horse in The Horse Whisperer by Nicholas Evans
Algernon the mouse in Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes

DON'T Examples
Rum Tum Tugger the cat in Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats by T. S. Eliot (cats are main characters)
Buttercup the cat in The Hunger Games trilogy by Suzanne Collins (not a significant character)
Marley the dog in Marley & Me by John Grogan (non-fiction)
Baloo the bear in The Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling (not domesticated)
Companions the horses in the Valdemar books by Mercedes Lackey (MAJOR they aren't horses but rather spirit animals that are reincarnated Heralds)
A mouse in If You Give a Mouse a Cookie by Laura Joffe Numeroff (I haven't read it so don't know if it doesn't fit for other reasons; however, the reason here is because the mouse is nameless.)

>54 Dejah_Thoris: I have waited for ages to get my hands on Atlas Obscura. Now I want to buy a copy for myself so I can linger over entries, look at additional pictures at atlasobscura.com, and read in conjunction with Google searches for more details.

>43 lindapanzo: I put Tourist Season in Challenge #16 the warm colored cover challenge if you want to join me.

>71 Citizenjoyce: Oh that's good. I'll join you. I picked up a pink-covered copy at the library yesterday.

>69 Morphidae: recently Sunshine by Robin McKinley was recommended to me. I know there are vampires and such. Do you have any idea if it features a domestic animal?

>72 lindapanzo: I couldn't remember so I went to TVTropes.com to look it up. It's a great place to find that type of thing. I looked over the tropes and there were no animal-related ones, therefore, I assume there are no significant animal characters.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/Sunshine

Here's a good place to look for books. Go into an applicable trope such as All Witches Have Cats and then into Literature. You still have to do a little research to figure out if they are significant to the story or not but it gives you ideas.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PetAndAnimalCompanionTropes

Though this list is better. It's where I found my examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_fictional_animals

Lastly look up animal tags - cat, dog, horse, mouse, parakeet - in LT. You'll need to separate out the non-fiction but if it's near-ish the top of the list, the animal should be significant enough to qualify.

>70 jeanned: You've convinced me to put a hold on Atlas Obscura from the library! It sounds fascinating. Thanks for answering.

>70 jeanned: Atlas Obscura is such a fun book! I've only sampled it myself, but gave it as gifts at the holidays. There's a lot there to read!

Karen O.

>12 Carmenere: Can I use a partial word? I'm about to finish The Power, and "Powerglide" was #75. Will that work?

Karen O.

>77 klobrien2: Sorry, no partial words, no embedded words. :o)

Challenge #18: Read a book with a wordy beginning

There are authors who start off with 20, 50 or more words in the first sentence. So, read a book with at least 18 words (because 2018 would be too long) in the first sentence from beginning till the first full stop/exclamation mark/question mark. Hyphenated and apostrophed words count as a single word.

>79 paulstalder: not all of these count, but this can help people find a book for your challenge: http://americanbookreview.org/100BestLines.asp

Having just finished the wonderful The Dollhouse I was thinking that I should probably read something by Sylvia Plath then along comes the perfect challenge #18. Thank you.

>80 neverstopreading: Thank you for that very helpful site.
>74 Morphidae: Alas for Sunshine, but thank you for the helpful links. I’d never heard of them.

>81 Citizenjoyce: After reading that same terrific book, I was thinking the same thing about Sylvia Plath.

>80 neverstopreading: Thanks, Cody, that's very helpful

>81 Citizenjoyce: Pleased to be of any help to you

>69 Morphidae: One who is not on the list is Lulu, the basset hound who is a main character in the David Handler Stewart Hoag books. She helps him investigate, loves 9Lives cat food, pickled herrings, and anchovies. Her breath is horrible. Those are great books, and I'm so glad he started the series up again. I finished the latest, which I got through the ER program The Man Who Couldn't Miss.

Hi, Madeline - just noting that there is no active link back to this main page from the bottom of the wiki.

>86 lyzard: I can't find the wiki page that has no link back to the main page. Post the url to that wiki page, please and thanks.

Sorry! - I meant the TIOLI meter page.

>12 Carmenere: I made up an alphabetized list of all the words - is there a place to put it?

>89 quondame: How helpful. Thanks.

>30 Citizenjoyce: Books in the same series don't qualify see >3 quondame:

>89 quondame: Well, I'm thinking you've spent a lot of time doing that so if you'd like you can PM me with the link and I'll include it on my initial post.

>88 lyzard: Fixed. Thanks.

>92 Carmenere: Not all that much time, but I've clean forgotten how to add a wiki page - the coffee is weak in me today.

>89 quondame: >92 Carmenere:

It can go where @Carmenere wants to put it....or, if you think it's too long, just put it on a separate thread, and I'll put a link to it in the wiki index.

Alternatively, post it here in this thread, and I also can create link to it from the wiki index. Your choice.

A fourth option. I can create a wiki page for you to put it on. Just let us know where it is or where you want it to be.

Thank you so much! I had been having a bit of trouble with linking to that website...especially after the week changed. Your list will be very helpful to all of us, Susan.

>95 SqueakyChu: The thread is http://www.librarything.com/topic/293141

Note: When I tried to put it into HTML the only thread that came up was this one! I was using the 'a' tag.

>69 Morphidae: I think I know your answer, but to be sure, what about Scabbers in Harry Potter who turns out to be Peter Pettigrew, a human?

Challenge #6 July, 2018 So, to be clear....thanks to quondame and calm we have the vocab and top 100 on the same thread. Check it out here http://www.librarything.com/topic/293141.

>98 Carmenere: I will give my own prize to anyone who finds a book with the word "Esskeetit" in the title. This challenge would have been easier with the songs from 1975 or so. :)

>99 owlie13: LOL I just snorted my cranberry lime seltzer all over my iPad. Great idea for a future challenge!

>99 owlie13: I hope it's a mighty big prize.

>98 Carmenere: I didn't do anything to help with the list or link. I only said it might be helpful if both were in the same place after Quondame did all the work of listing all those words.

>78 Carmenere: So I can't use Gods for God's?

>103 quondame: Sorry, nope.

You know---

We need a term around here for when you set up a challenge with a particular book in mind, and then decide that book would be better in a different challenge... :D

>85 owlie13: If Lulu is *the* main character, it wouldn't count for my challenge.

>97 neverstopreading: You know, I'm waffling on Hedwig, Crookshanks, and Mrs. Norris because they aren't prominent characters. Not insignificant, but not prominent. But they could be argued either way. Scabbers *is* prominent but only because of the spoiler. Which in turn makes him ineligible for the challenge!

>105 lyzard: Oops, I did it again...

I haven't read Bunnicula but from the synopsis and the reviews, I don't believe it meets the "Main characters must be human(oid), i.e. elves, vampires, aliens" rule.

>107 Morphidae: I'm so sorry, Morphy (and Karen and Cody who joined me), you're quite right - when I saw your Challenge I latched onto the idea of the animal character and thought of Bunnicula, which I had hoped to get to last month. I somehow COMPLETELY missed the human (etc.) element of the challenge. The humans are all very secondary to this story, so I'll find another place to put it.

Karen and Cody - if you still want to read Bunnicula, do you have a preference where we put it? I can add it Challenge #15 (family name), #8 (LT list), or we can wait for a spot on the rolling Challenge (#9).

Let me know!

>106 Morphidae: - No, she just helps out the main character. She doesn't speak or anything - she's a real dog. She's just an important secondary character.

>108 Dejah_Thoris: I first read it when I was a kid, so I was eager to read it with my kids. I'd still like to keep it in the challenge if we can. Here are the categories it would fit with for me:

9. Rolling Challenge: Red White And Blue - msg #18
10. Re-read a book - msg #24
11. Read a book that has been on your shelves for more than 5 years - msg #25 (I still have the same copy that I read 25 or so years ago)

16. Read a book with a warm colored (red, orange, yellow, peach or pink) cover - msg #61 (my copy has a lot of orange)

>110 neverstopreading: Any of them work for me, Cody. Why don't we wait to hear from Karen before we decide? Then whichever of us meets the requirements of the Challenge can post it and the other two of us can be shared reads.

>111 Dejah_Thoris: Sure.

>47 neverstopreading: I just found your separate thread and added it to the wiki index.

>113 SqueakyChu: Thanks!

Donna, I just finished our shared read There There and feel like I need a few weeks in the hospital to recover. Wow. This is the reason I stopped reading Octavia Butler and Annie Proulx. My delicate little white heart has been assaulted. Though I did love the story about the man who befriended a coworker who then moved into his house, brought over all his friends and forced him into a closet. A perfect little gem.

>115 Citizenjoyce: It was a powerful book, and I have to admit I almost stopped half way through. I wasn't sure I could take any more dysfunction, but I'm glad I persevered. My views of Native Americans (Indians) have expanded. I'm just not sure in a good way. I wonder what he will do next.

hmm. Part of me wants to re-organise almost all the books I've got into different challenges to avoid two in the same challenge. Americanah is the once causing the issues. It could go in challenge 18, but then I'd have to move The field of the Cloth of Gold. That could move to challenge 3, as library collections are always on the top shelf of the book trolley. But then I'd need to move Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (which lives on the top shelf of one of my bookcases). That could go in either challenge 10 or 11. Only that one's a shared read and I feel bad about moving that.

So, any bright ideas where else Americanah could fit that's not challenge 18? I know little of it as yet.

(like any of this matters, of course!)

>117 Helenliz: I don't see stipulation that you can't reorganize your bookshelf before picking a book from the top-shelf, then reorganize it back.

What? That's chee-teeng? I'm not familiar with that word.

>117 Helenliz: You can feel free to move you Harry Potter to another challenge. I've kind of lost interest at the moment. I think I'll be reading The Book Shop by Penelope Fitzgerald instead.

>119 Citizenjoyce: thank you, I have removed your entry. Mine's in challenge 10, if you do get to it.

>1 SqueakyChu:

do terms for distinctions between males and females, or young/old count?

For example, obviously cat will count, but what about tom or queen? Then there are various distinctions used if the animal is neutered, has had offspring, etc.

>121 neverstopreading: I would accept it if I knew it was an animal. Just verify your word with a dictionary definition and point me to it.

I have listed the same work in two challenges (#7 and #16), but they are different books and I did read both. It is the book The prince by Machiavelli that I read in two different translations. If this is a problem I will remove the one from challenge #16.

>123 FAMeulstee: That seems okay to me.

>122 SqueakyChu: OK, yours is the only one I've really had difficulty finding (trying to stay in my "to-read") list in order to get a sweep. (at least among books I think I can finish before the 31st)

With a specific book in mind (Terra Stands Alone) I propose:

Terra, a genus of butterfly in the family lycaenidae.

Will this count, or is it too much of a stretch?

My other option (related to my question above) is Tom Sawyer - Tom referring to a male cat or male turkey.

>125 neverstopreading: I’ll accept it. You’ve made your case.

>126 SqueakyChu: Thanks!

***TALES FROM THE TOP SHELF***
As I mentioned when I proposed Challenge #3, I am in the midst of unpacking and reorganizing everything in the house that should be on shelves.

>10 SqueakyChu: The best surprises can be categorized as....

'Missing' books
The Worry Cure - I was worried I lost it.
Middlemarch - Well, it wasn't REALLY missing. In January, DH picked it up off my nightstand and kicked off a conversation about how neither of us had read it and were a bit intimidated, me despite Silas Marner being one of my favorites from high school required reading. When he tried to put it back on the nightstand, I directed him to put it on the bookcase. He's tall, so it went on the top shelf.

Books I didn't know I had
Chocolat by Joanne Harris -- what, no touchstone?

And then there was this. I WILL find the culprit who brought this into my home and left it displayed on a top shelf in a room I rarely enter, and am exceedingly glad it was already listed in LT (two libraries only) and ***I*** didn't have to add it for the purposes of this post.



The Alphabet of Manliness (revised and updated)

>128 jeanned: You must read it and tell us all how to be manly. Or is it just too hot for that? Maybe have an ice tea and stick with Chocolate instead.

First sweeper this month is Dejah, congratulations!

>130 FAMeulstee: Hurray for Dejah!!

>130 FAMeulstee: Woot woot, Dejah! You rock!

Anytime I find books I didn't know I had, or forgot I had, I feel like a kid a Christmas.

>130 FAMeulstee: Congratulations Dejah!

Yahoo, Dejah.

>130 FAMeulstee: >131 SqueakyChu: >132 Carmenere: >134 quondame: >135 Citizenjoyce: Thank you, all! I confess, when the Challenges were going up some of them looked, well, more challenging than usual. With a little effort and taking advantage of the suggestions of others, it turned out not to be too difficult after all.

One reason I keep trying for a sweep and shared reads is that it pushes me to read things that, for one reason or another, I wouldn't have otherwise read. So thanks again, Madeline and all the other TIOLI Challengers - you make my reading so much more interesting!

>136 Dejah_Thoris: I’m happy that the TIOLI challenges are doing what I hoped they would do...that is, s-t-r-e-t-c-h what you read!

TIOLI Question of the month

Who was your most despised character of those nasty ones you've met this month in your TIOLI reads? Why did you dislike this person so much? In which book was he/she lurking?

>138 SqueakyChu: Hands down it's Richard Strickland from the novelization of The Shape of Water. I don't think I've read another novelization of a movie, so I don 't know how good they usually are, but this one is terrific. If you've seen the movie, you know Strickland is a sleazy character, but the novel gives enough back story to make him full on disgusting. He's the very definition of testosterone poisoning determined to be almost robotically unemotional, misogynistic to the highest degree, lacking sympathy for any other living creature except for his son whom he aspires to make as sadistic as himself. Fortunately the other characters: Elsa, Zelda, Giles and the amphibian man himself are so well written I'm not going to let Strickland make me stop reading.

>138 SqueakyChu:
I find it very hard to like Soames in the Forsyte Saga. This month he appeared in the second book in the saga, In Chancery. He is a man of his time, and portrays a very Victorian attitude to property, in which he includes his wives. Now both of them know, to some extent, the bargain they are making when they marry him, trading a life of comfort and some luxury with an emotional happiness, they are, to some extent, the makers of their own fate as well. The way he pursues his first wife (after having raped her at the end of the previous book) and makes a decision concerning his second wife and their child at the end of this book means that he's not someone I'd want to know. He's probably perfectly charming to the casual acquaintance, but seems to me to be emotionally barren.

Note that I can't say I find I like his wives all that much either, but that's more a lack of depth with which they are portrayed. This isn't a case of I'm taking the wife's side, so must dislike the husband.

With the excellent book Himalaya by Michael Palin (for my own challenge) I finished my July sweep :-)

>139 Citizenjoyce: Haha! You make me want to read that book! I added it to my wishlist.

>141 FAMeulstee: Hurray for Anita.......and congrats on your July sweep!

>141 FAMeulstee: Congrats, Anita! Way to go!!

.>142 SqueakyChu: So you like a good villain?
Congratulations Anita.

>144 Citizenjoyce: Not necessarily. Some I do; some I don't. It really depends on each book, the writing, and the situations in each book.

>138 SqueakyChu: Probably Jim Dixon in Lucky Jim. From my review: Jim Dixon landed a job teaching history at a red brick university in England after World War II. He does not enjoy his job and spends most of the time in the pub drinking. Runners-up are the women in The Joy Luck Club, but I think I disliked Dixon's character more than the women.

>146 thornton37814: I rather loved the women in The Joy Luck Club - the men on the mainland seemed pretty much trash though.

>138 SqueakyChu: Virtually all the characters in GB84 except for a couple of the miners. A brutal read.

>138 SqueakyChu: I was talking to @quondame about this on my own thread. I really disliked the character of Bird in the novel by Kenzaburo Oe called A Personal Matter. Bird had a failing marriage so, after his wife gave birth to a child with a brain anomaly, he decided to shack up with an old friend, later having sex with her, and then tried to figure out how to either let his new baby die or have him killed. I will read other books by this author in the future, but I really am glad I'm finished with this particular novel.

>138 SqueakyChu: My most despised "character" comes from a work of nonfiction, Carry Me Home by Diane McWhorter, a Pulitzer-Prize winning history of Birmingham in the Civil Rights movement focusing on the events of 1963. Bull Connor was so straight-up evil and racist he'd barely work as a fictional character--as an author your editor would be after you to humanize him with some sympathetic traits.

>141 FAMeulstee: Congratulations, Anita!

>138 SqueakyChu: Like Susanna's pick (>150 susanna.fraser:), my most despised character comes from nonfiction. There were many poor decisions that led to the Donner party being stranded in the Sierra Nevada Mountains for the winter, but it flat out would not have happened without the lies of one man: Lansford W. Hastings. Hastings had written a book touting Oregon and California (neither area as yet part of the U.S.) as wonderful places for ambitious folks to settle. Once several investors and land speculators made it worth his while, Hastings disavowed Oregon and touted California as the superior destination.

Part of his plan was to promote a 'shortcut' through the Wasatch Mountains and the Sierra Nevada Mountains known as the Hastings Cutoff. He began publicizing the route before he'd ever traveled it himself, and even after he did and must have known that it was entirely unsuitable for wagons, he continued to encourage travelers to try it, even promising to lead the first party through (he didn't).

Aiding and abetting Hastings in his deadly deception was my runner up bad guy, Jim Bridger, who ran a trading post in a poor location that would greatly benefit from travelers using the Hastings Cutoff. He assured the Donner party that the route was smooth, easy and short. A member of the party who had gone ahead on horseback, sent letters to members of the group, via Bridger, telling them to under no circumstances to take the Cutoff. The letters were never given to intended recipients.

It's not exactly cheery reading, but I learned a great deal from The Indifferent Stars Above: The Harrowing Saga of a Donner Party Bride by Daniel James Brown of The Boys in the Boat fame. I recommend it.

>142 SqueakyChu: >143 Carmenere: >144 Citizenjoyce: >151 Dejah_Thoris: Thanks Madeline, Lynda, Joyce and Dejah.

>136 Dejah_Thoris: One reason I keep trying for a sweep and shared reads is that it pushes me to read things that, for one reason or another, I wouldn't have otherwise read. I completely agree.
For me it works also very well to keep me reading my own books. For each challenge I first look if I have an unread book or one I want to read again, that fits the challenge.

>138 SqueakyChu: Oh, this one is easy for me to answer. I most despised Frank LaSalle and I found him lurking in the historical fiction Rust & Stardust. Based on a true story, which Nabakov is said to have inspired him to write Lolita, LaSalle stole 10 year old Florence "Sally" Horner right out from under her mother's nose. He was an ex-con, liar, manipulator, sexual predator and the things he did to this little girl were unconscionable. I get nauseous just thinking about this real life character.

Yikes! The nonfiction nasty characters are even creepier than their fiction counterparts because of their predatory and slimy behavior in real life!! :O

I'm away from home for the rest of the month. Taxing on my reading for sure, and my library books won't be read till August. I'll be taking books off the wiki in the next few days. Awful wifi where I'm staying.

#138 Some pretty nasty characters lurking in the Saga comic series. I don't have access to #5 which I read at the start of the month.

>155 avatiakh: I'm sure you're having fun on your trip, though! :D

Susan, I just noticed that you got your sweep - congratulations!

I also wanted to let you know that I joined you for The Privilege of Peace and Starless in Challenge #8, so I think your shared read total should be a bit higher. :)

>157 Dejah_Thoris: Cool! Another sweep! Congratulations, Susan!!

>157 Dejah_Thoris: Thanks - I try not to count shared reads before at least one other person marks them complete - but feel free to update my counts as you finish. I did enjoy both books, Starless somewhat more as military sf is less my favorite than complex fantasy.

>159 quondame: My reaction was the opposite - I thoroughly enjoyed The Privilege of Peace but Starless was uneven for me. It's always nice to have the shared read, though.

Congratulations on your sweep, Susan!

Congratulations to all of the sweepers, and the sweepers-to-be!

I just finished my Challenge 1 read (Cat and Mouse: A Novel by Gunter Grass) and am just thrilled to get my #1 done; to have it be a bump for my "1001 Books" count is icing on the cake. I liked the book--I can see why it's on the "1001 Books" list.

Karen O.

p.s. I feel led to say "thank you!" once again to SqueakyChu for this wonderful thing called TIOLI! I just checked, and I've been keeping track of my TIOLI reads since October 2010! How wonderful that it has been around so long yet seems fresh every month!

>162 klobrien2: Thanks, Karen. I'm glad it survived that long as well. It was part of what kept me sane the year I lost my job. It's something fun on which to focus when I'm feeling down or stressed.

I'm glad it always seems new. That was one of the reasons I kept harping on trying not to recycle previously used challenges here (although I'll let a few through because of tradition or newbies). :)

klobrien2 - I just deleted my entry in Challenge #18 And Then There Were None. After doing so, I saw you had done a shared read of it.
Would you like me to add the 33 word first line to your entry?

>164 Carmenere: I can do that (if you haven't done it yet). I hope that you get a chance to read it sometime.

Karen O.

p.s. Oops, could you add the first sentence to my entry? I no longer have the book in my possession (I read a lot of library books!)

>165 klobrien2: Will do.

The TIOLI Stats for June, 2018:

For June, 2018, we read a total of 430 books. This gets better, though. We had 127 shared reads for 30% of the total. Both of those are the best stats since 2015. :O

In addition, we collected 67 TIOLI points for a YTD June total of 279 TIOLI points. Both of those stats are also the best since 2015. :D

Our most popular book was The Inn at Lake Devine by Elinor Lipman with 5 readers.

Our most popular challenge, with 61 books read, was the one by @FAMeulstee to read a book where the author's name has the same vowel in first and last name.

Our two challenges with the most TIOLI points (both with 7) were the one by @JeanneD to read a book with a cryptogram of D-A-D hidden in its title and the one by @lindapanzo to read a book with a body of water on the front cover.

Soon to come...the TIOLI awards for June, 2018.

>167 SqueakyChu: Good news. It seemed like every month that stats were down even though we were all professing our love for TIOLI. It's good to see we followed through on our feelings.

There's been a noticeable upturn in TIOLIers going for the shared reads, I think. And some new participants? Probably helping us to keep at it.

Karen O.

>167 SqueakyChu: Yay for us. April--June was a good reading stretch for me and I tried for reading matches. July has been a terrible reading month, in terms of both quality and quantity. More fun than I've had personally, though, since before surgery, so there's that at least.

I had high hopes for both The Joy Luck Club and Kitchen Confidential, two shared reads for me this month, but was extremely disappointed with both.

>170 lindapanzo: I don’t share your opinion of Joy Luck Club but agree with you about Kitchen Confidential. Anyone who could want to work in one of his kitchens after reading that book must be masochistic to the core. What a wild, angry, uncontrolled man. If, as in Like Water For Chocolate he could imbue his food with his emotions he would have produced thousands of serial killers.
That said, I’m glad you found this a fun reading month. Quality not quantity is good in life.

>171 Citizenjoyce: Fun reading and fun in RL. Our library’s summer reading club has been Be Curious so I’ve tried things I wouldn’t usually read. Also attended a library lecture on Illinois Geology, which is outside my usual as well. I’ll tuen my book club form in tomorrow and maybe go back a bit towards my usual reading for a time.

>170 lindapanzo: >171 Citizenjoyce: ...and I just loved Kitchen Confidential. It just goes to show how the same books differ so much depending on who reads them.

The June, 2018, TIOLI Awards!

The Save the Planet Award goes to @Citizenjoyce and @quondame for both reading The Electric Woman: A Memoir in Death-Defying Acts for Citizenjoyce's challenge to read a book connected to a circus act. This book's act was a fire-eater. With all of the wildfires raging around the globe, I wish I could send the fire-eater from this book to eat them all up. *sigh*

The Can't Be Without a Book Award goes to @Morphidae for reading The Bookshop at Water's End for Morphidea's own challenge to read a book that takes place in or around a beach/ocean. A bookshop anywhere is always a good idea!

The English Teacher Award goes to (of course!) @Dejah_Thoris for this challenger's determination to get all of us caught upon our parts of speech! Dejah_Thoris did this very well with The Parts of Speech Rolling Challenge.

The Pass Me One Right Now Award goes @cbl_tn for reading The Nazi Officer's Wife for owlie13's challenge to read a book where the author's last name is also a noun. The author of the book was Edith Hahn Beer. That reminded me how thirsty I was. Could someone please pass me a beer?!

Congrats to our award winners! Feel free at this time to add award winners of your own.

>167 SqueakyChu: Woohoo for the June stats! Good for us!

>174 SqueakyChu: Thank you for the award, Madeline! It was a somewhat harder Challenge than I expected it to be, but I thought it was fun.

Congratulations to all the other award winners - and shared readers!

>174 SqueakyChu: Thanks for the award. Alas, I don't think the fire eater could solve the problem. I think we have to look to Superman or Paul Bunyan for that.

>173 SqueakyChu: I know he was beloved by many, and a woman in a book I'm reading actually decided she wanted to be a cook after reading Kitchen Confidential. It's a wonder to me.

Congratulations to all the award winners! In honor of your award, Carrie, I will crack open a beer out on the patio later on today!

SWEEP - finally! I finally filled in #8 with Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow, which I chose because it also fit the Reading Through Time Group's July challenge theme of Nautical, but at over 400 pages, it took me awhile. And along the way, I confused my own self. At one point this month, my eBook was Crow Lake, set in Canada, which I was reading during the same period of listening to my audiobook, Undiscovered Country, which, as it turned out, was set on Crow Lake in Northern Minnesota. Then my next eBook up was An Available Man, which I'd just begun when, as luck would have it, an audiobook I'd been waiting on came available - The Story of Arthur Truluv - so two books about widowers at the same time. Thankfully, all the books were good, so I come out of this month temporarily, though delightfully, confused.

>178 countrylife: Woohoo!!!! Congratulations on your sweep!

>178 countrylife: Congrats on your sweep...and also on figuring out which book was which. I would have been thoroughly confused by now if I had read those same books!!

>174 SqueakyChu: Thank you for the award! I have to confess that I don't even like beer! Or more exactly, I dislike the aroma so much that I'd never be able to drink it. I have an overly sensitive nose.

>178 countrylife: Congratulations on your sweep!

>181 cbl_tn: That’s okay. I had one for you today. It went well with our pizza!

>178 countrylife: Congratulations on your sweep, Cindy!

>178 countrylife: Congratulations on your sweep and on reading through your confusion. Frequently when thinking about a book I put the wrong character in the wrong setting with the wrong friends and have to sort everything out. Reading multiple books at the same time can be stimulating, can’t it?

With a day to spare, I finished Feast: True Love In and Out of the Kitchen by Hannah Howard for a Sweep. It's nice to end the month on a good read - anorexia, crazy chefs, married boyfriends, she covers lots of territory.

>185 Citizenjoyce: Congratulations on your sweep, Joyce!

Sweep for me on the last day of the month!

>187 neverstopreading: Very Cool! Congratulations, Cody!!

>185 Citizenjoyce: >185 Citizenjoyce: Way to go Joyce and Cody! Congratulations to you both!

>186 SqueakyChu:, >189 Dejah_Thoris: Thanks
>187 neverstopreading: Congratulations, Cody.

>185 Citizenjoyce: Congratulations on your sweep, Joyce!

>186 SqueakyChu: And one more sweeper, congratulations, Cody!

Congrats to the sweepers and hooray for us for the outstanding June stats.

Housekeeping Day!

Please remove from the wiki any book not completed by midnight tonight (except for rolling challenges which you may mark DNF did not finish). Thanks!

I've updated the wiki for my July reads. I think I set a personal record by finding challenges for 10 of my reads this month. I know that's nothing compared to most of you, but since I'll never complete a sweep I'm happy with it.

>194 rosalita: We all have our personal measures of success. For me, it was reading 7 books (out of a total of 9 for July) that at least started out as shared reads.

>195 jeanned: Well done!

>194 rosalita: we all set different measures of success. Mine was managing to sweep a page of the wiki, so getting a book into each of the first 6 challenges, which I treated as a sweeplette. (although not this month!)

>154 SqueakyChu: Good work!

>197 Helenliz: Sweeplette! How cute! I like that idea.

Everyone...Feel free in the future to tell us about your sweeplettes and which page of the wiki you were able to...dust? ...whisk? ...freshen up? :D

I'm not tracking those stats, though! That's too much cleaning for me! LOL!

>154 SqueakyChu: Good work!

>197 Helenliz: Sweeplette! How cute! I like that idea.

Everyone...Feel free in the future to tell us about your sweeplettes and which page of the wiki you were able to...dust? ...whisk? ...buff? ...wipe? :D

I'm not tracking those stats, though! That's too much cleaning for me! LOL!

>197 Helenliz: I like the sweeplette concept!

>200 rosalita: You can even do a sweeplette of a short page! July had six listings for each challenge. Let's see what August brings. It certainly will add another dimension to the concept of our challenges. If you want to do that, I'll just make a place for it for each of you to add your own information because I sure am not going to try to keep track of those!! :O

Who knows, with the 1-4 books I read per month, even I might be able to do a sweeplette!

Helenliz, that was brilliant!

I love the sweeplette concept as, no doubt, it will be the only sort of sweep that is achievable for me. Good thinking Helenliz!

Congrats to all sweepers and lettes in July! You never cease to amaze!

If we vote for sweeplettes, I am willing to make an effort to keep track of them.

>203 FAMeulstee: ... and I’m willing to let you keep track of them...either on the TIOLI meter or elsewhere.

For those of you who are opposed to tracking sweeplets, what are your concerns?

>204 SqueakyChu: Sweeplets are a cute idea, but it just seems like more stuff on the wiki page.

>205 Citizenjoyce: >204 SqueakyChu: Like Madeline said, or elsewhere, would you mind less if there was a separate sweeplettes page?

>206 FAMeulstee: It's no big deal. Just because it doesn't appeal to me doesn't mean it shouldn't be done wherever Madeline wants to put it. If it makes some people happy, go for it.

>205 Citizenjoyce: >206 FAMeulstee: I agree with Joyce that our TIOLI page is getting way too big, but what about if Anita made a separate wiki page for the sweeplettes as she has done with the past sweeps? That would not show up on the TIOLI meter page, but Anita could report back every once in a while (more likely, monthly) on who completed sweeplettes.

Anita, what do you think? You have to agree with it if you're going to do it! :D

>208 SqueakyChu: Sounds goood to me :-)

>209 FAMeulstee: Hurray! Let’s do it!!

>210 SqueakyChu: Yes!
I have to think how to do it, a separate sweeplette thread with a wiki-page for totals, or each month a wiki page to keep track. I will report back...

>211 FAMeulstee: Let me know what you decide to do so I can figure out how to link it either to our main thread or to the TIOLI meter page. Have fun with it! :D

I'm eyeing the 1-book sweeplette page 4 for August. So far, I'd only have to read one book. Of course, it might be more books, but page four looks far better for success than the other pages. Haha!

ETA: I added a place for a links to your sweeplettes page/thread under Other Fun Stuff on the thread for August 2018. Once you create them, give me the links, and I'll add them there. Probably no one much looks at that place anyway so it shouldn't be much bother there. Those who want to see what you're doing can quickly jump to your pages from there. This should make everyone happy! :D

>212 SqueakyChu: As usual, a perfect solution.

>213 Citizenjoyce: Heh!

>211 FAMeulstee: This will be your baby, Anita, so you can report on it whenever and however you’d like to.

Working on it :-)
First set up: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Our_TIOLI_Sweeplette_Meter_-_2018

Challenge #19 could become a popular one in August ;-)

Slightly late, I've tidied up my lack of July finishes. Back in the land of connections that work again. >:-)

>216 FAMeulstee: Anita, that's great! I'm linking it now.

Wiki page 4 looks like a winner for those wanting their first sweeplette! :D

>216 FAMeulstee: It might be helpful on your page to note the number of books in each sweeplette since not all sweeplettes will be six books. What do you think?

>219 SqueakyChu: You are right, I will add the challenge numbers at the 5th of the month, or when a page is full.

>220 FAMeulstee: Perfect!