LibraryThing Movie Night—Jurassic Park
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Hold on to your butts—it's time for another LibraryThing Movie Night!
Next Wednesday, Aug. 8th, 9pm EDT (US) join us right here on Talk to discuss the 1993 film adaptation of Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park.
There's no time like the summer time for a dinosaur-packed adventure, so whether you've seen it once (or thrice before), or this will be your first viewing, we hope you'll join us! Jurassic Park is streaming on Netflix in the US (among other countries), or you can rent it on Amazon, Google, iTunes, and even YouTube.
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In case you've been hiding under a fossilized rock for the last 20+ years, here's the original trailer.
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>2 cpg: Amazing. (ETA: The climbing down the tree scene always really bothered me.)
The actress who played Lex actually quit acting after that movie. Still gets recognized though.
I love this movie -- unrealistic or otherwise. In fact, I've probably watched the first 3 JP movies (they make good background noise when I'm cooking or sewing) a dozen times each. They sort of fit in with my love of the Die Hard movies.
>5 lesmel: Re: the spoiler—I heard about that! How terrifying!
This movie is awesome! I don't know why exactly but every time I watch it I'm right there in it with them, on the edge of my seat, and also smugly thinging: "I read this book way before the movie came out."
They do give Dr Malcolm some of the better snarky lines. I won't quote them here... until after movie night. :)
>8 gilroy: While not the best line, my favorite Dr. Malcolm line:
>9 lesmel: Oh, mine has more snark to it. :)
>8 gilroy: I quote Malcolm at my SO all the time
Just weird timing -- the movies (at least 1 and 2) were on last night...no idea what channel. I just happened to spot them while flipping through.
>13 lesmel: Jurassic Park is having a bit of a moment (especially the first 2-3 films) right now, I think, given the fairly recent disappointment of the latest Jurassic World installment (but also marketing).
Also the 25th anniversary of the release of the movie was in June of this year.
Today's the day! Reminder to set your watches for 9pm EDT for Jurassic Park viewing/discussion.
I'll be here, along with at least 3 other LT staff members (one of whom will be watching Jurassic Park for the very first time!!!), and we're all pretty hyped—every time we mention JP in staff chat, at least one of us has to say "hold on to your butts".
>17 lorannen: *pouts* I can't stay up that late and still get to work on time. Dang it!
>19 gilroy: I'm gonna break lights out curfew (my own) to watch. The furkids will watch me with ill-disguised disappointment. It will be epic. Unless I fall asleep on the couch. Then it will be typical. lol
Netflix is set and ready to go! Too hot for popcorn over here, though—Melona bars all the way.
It's been maybe five years since the last time I saw this movie? It's a modern classic, imho.
4 mins! I am trying to decide if I should have a cocktail. It is too late to make popcorn.
>22 lorannen: Definitely should have a cocktail—I'm on west coast time, so dinner + cocktails will be after the show for me.
>23 lesmel: Affirmative over here, Manhattans on my end and ready for some clever girls!
Anyone else remember the Weird Al song? Dating myself a bit here, but my parents wouldn't let me go see JP in theaters. Of course, after this song came out, I wanted nothing more than to see this movie.
Hold on to your butts! It's showtime!
>27 lesmel: Yes! Completely unaffiliated with the actual movie. Catchy as heck, though.
You can tell from the jump that this is a Spielberg flick—the opening sequence reminds me a lot of the opening of E.T.
The first time I watched this movie (I don't remember how old I was), this opening scene scared the bajeezus out of me...
FWIW, I would have cut the beginning scene. But it was required I'm sure.
It does, however, highlight all the supporting people—many of them speaking Spanish, because it's set in Costa Rica.
The second scene should have been the first.
>35 timspalding: Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Somehow all the support staff disappear when the first beta testers arrive?
I think it was at least five viewings before I stopped freaking out over the opening scene.
And can I just say it took forever for me to figure out what the guy says in Spanish as Genero is on the raft.
>35 timspalding: I never made the connection between the opening scene and the rest of the movie, when I was young. It is rather disconnected.
DR. GRANT. This movie made me want to be a paleontologist for a few years. I was already the kid correcting her teachers on dinosaur name pronunciation.
Computerphobia is no longer acceptable in middle-aged men. That is all I have to say.
The movie, like the book (but less so), makes a lot of sideways references to The Dinosaur Heresies.
First time ever, I heard Grant say "Cretaceous Period" in his scare the kid speech!!
This relationship (Satler/Grant) always annoyed me as a deviation from the book.
"Babies smell"—true fact. As an adult, I can now appreciate Grant's "no thanks, PASS" approach to parenting.
If this movie were done today, John Hammond would be a young guy. Old CEOs are uncool, probably don't exist anymore.
>53 lorannen: Satler is engaged to a Fed.
John Hammond is so charming as a character, but I've grown to really not appreciate him through his actions, over the years.... he's really kind of a greedy, rich jerk!
(This is the game where we announce computer sightings, right?)
I had that grey laptop.
Real question, though, is Dr. Malcolm the reason Chaos Theory as a field exists in our cultural consciousness today? I grew up with this movie, so I can't tell.
Oh, Kauai, I've wanted to go there since this movie! Still on my bucket list.
>70 lorannen: Ooh, I don't think so. There's so many other reasons for it to exist, I think.
Ok. Upcoming scene is about the ONLY time I get this desperate wish dinos (the veggie-sauruses) were alive.
I want a hiking cane with an ancient mosquito stuck in some ancient sap/amber.
>73 lesmel: I'm with you, there. But I'm also impressed with the "clever girls" scene.
>72 kristilabrie: Exist, yes...but as a cultural reference? The only other time I've seen any non-science reference to Chaos Theory is Criminal Minds, I thnk.
I still get chills during this sequence, in part because of dinos, in part because of the score—my concert band got to play it and it was excellent.
The dinosaur-spotting scene gives me a shiver every time. Every time.
Dinosaur Heresies check.
Wow, so long since i've seen this! Don't even remember that beginning. Fun!
Relevant to Dr. Malcolm appreciation: Nat Geo hires Jeff Goldblum to walk around, being professionally fascinated by things
After seeing one dinosaur, we see a while bunch at the lake--one type never seen again. Shiver.
Fashion note: this is also the perfect time to be watching/re-watching, because the wardrobe worn by the cast here is cool again.
>87 kristilabrie: Another good movie! But not nearly as big a hit as this one.
The "I have lines" bit. — Fragility of technology theme here, as in helicopter. The movie doesn't waste a second.
The educational video was hokey then—a little dated. It's prehistoric now.
I LOVE the educational video. Nostalgic. It's a "so bad it's good" thing.
Coming in a bit late, but thought I'd get it going, but I can't find it on Netflix. It's bringing up a bunch of related titles, but not the original. :-( Have fun, everyone!
ETA: Are different shows available in different countries? I'm in Canada.
"Thinkin' Machine Supercomputers"! Man, I remember being excited by those. Parallel processing!
>93 LibraryCin: Are you running a search for it, too? Odd... are you non-US? Perhaps it's not in non-US. (If so, major bummer!)
>95 kristilabrie: Yeah, I just edited my comment asking if it might be different in different countries. I'm in Canada. Yeah, I searched for the exact title and it just wanted to give me related titles.
“Where do you get 100 million year old dinosaur blood?”
From a hundred million year old mosquito, of course.
>93 LibraryCin: Ah, see your note now. Yeah, Netflix (and all platforms, basically) has to negotiate streaming rights within each individual country, and it frequently differs. I can get some of my favorite shows when I travel to Europe that I can't get here in the US (and vice versa), for example.
I love the JP rant in >2 cpg:, explaining
>98 kristilabrie: Only time I get all gooey about the raptors.
I wish Henry Wu had a bigger part in this movie; but if he had the same fate as the book...
One of my favorite behind-the-scenes spots involved how they made the dinosaur sounds
Hammond's "feeding them" FREAKS ME OUT EVERY TIME. Hello, psychopath...or is that sociopath?
>99 lorannen: Thanks for the extra options. Looks like the few I'm trying want me to pay. Oh, well. I've seen it (wayyyy back when it was in theatres!)... probably saw it a few times, actually. Would have been fun to watch again. Maybe next time I'll be able to join in.
>113 LibraryCin: Sorry we're missing you this time around—it's hard for us to verify Netflix availability in all countries (it varies wildly and changes often). I'll try to make sure our next pick is one that's up on Netflix in Canada, too.
He's watching them. But I wouldn't say he's a psychopath. He's watching them because deep down he's an entertainer--he wants to see the effect. IMHO.
What's the great white hunter's accent? Is he supposed to be South African?
I've wanted a pair of Malcolm's frames ever since I laid my eyes on them (pun intended).
One of my favorite quotes from the movie (which research reveals is also in the book): "your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should."
>117 timspalding: Supposedly the head dude at the "game park in Kenya" but I swear the book says he's Australian. Muldoon...Scots?
>123 lesmel: He's always sounded Australian/Kiwi to me (there is a difference between the two, but it's hard to tell with his dialogue in the movie). Though, I guess South African could loosely apply..
>127 timspalding: Oh, Tim is totally a lil' Dr. Grant cosplayer. It's precious.
My teacher told me about this book by a guy named Bakker (Dinosaur Heresies)
>130 timspalding: This is a book I completely missed. I'm enjoying you calling out the name/idea dropping at every turn.
I just don't know why they didn't get David Attenborough to narrate the park tours.
>134 lorannen: What?! That idea is killing me rn. How have I never thought of that.
Muldoon was played..
THE LINE! hold on to yer butts...
Muldoon was played by Bob Peck. English actor. Fandom wiki says book Muldoon was from Nairobi. But..."The film's script described him as being "grim-faced, fortyish and British; someone whose voice commanded attention."
He's drinking Jolt! Does Jolt! still exist?
God, I love the Nedry dialogue.
Who's the black and white photo on his monitor? Familiar but I can't place him.
>134 lorannen: ALWAYS wondered that.
OH OH FAVORITE LINE! "Dinosaurus eat man. Woman inherita the earth..."
"See I'm here now by myself, talking to myself." The vague ridiculousness of the wooing man.
"Yours was fully illustrated..."
:) :) :)
>152 timspalding: Ahhh, my favorite.
Also, what kind of veterinarian wouldn't check their patient's eyes like, first thing?
>151 kristilabrie: Oh c'mon. What's a lot of
>156 lesmel: I mean, I tolerated
>159 kristilabrie: Can you imagine explaining your job on the set?
>116 lorannen: No worries! Depending on day/time, how busy I am, it doesn't always work out, anyway! Hard to pick something that's going to be available everywhere!
I saw this in theaters when it came out in 3D. It was awful. Nearly ruined the whole movie for me.
>165 lesmel: Oh my goodness I can't imagine how bad 1993 3-D was. I don't even like 2018 3-D that much.
My sisters and I used to do the finger wag "you didn't say the magic word" thing at each other all the time and it drove our parents bonkers.
Well. This was a few years ago. It was "remastered" in 3D.
>170 timspalding: Always.
"When you gotta go, you gotta go." You can't argue with that.
I feel like if the TRex or the raptors had been left "jaws style" this movie would have been SO MUCH scarier!
>170 timspalding: Based on our jungle tour this spring, can confirm this is definitely true of binoculars.
T-rex is like 50% larger than he should be, right?
The whole vision-is-based on movement thing is a total guess.
I have NEVER understood
My only complaint here is that
>177 timspalding: Eh, not that much bigger, I don't think: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrannosaurus#/media/File:Largest_Theropods.svg
>177 timspalding: My favorite "things we've learned about dinosaurs since 1993" bit is probably T. rex's gastralia, which fully changes the silhouette of my favorite murderbird.
He's like my dad with the dog we used to have. "I have no food!" (When dog just wanted to be petted.)
>188 timspalding: I'm not sure I agree, here. He should know
Dr. Malcolm's shirt has certainly become very conveniently unbuttoned only down to the waist, yet remains tucked in.
The wardrobe physics in this movie entertain me. Later on,
Okay, okay, scene #3 why I wouldn't hate having dinosaurs around today.
I'm late, but looking forward to watching along. What's the time code most everyone is on?
I love the merchandising commentary in a movie that is ALL ABOUT the merchandising.
I saw an actual, honest-to-goodness (or, as honest as flea circuses are) flea circus at the airport a few months ago. It was... something.
"Spared no expense."
Except on the computer programmer! If you just hadn't been cheap with the computer programmer, everything would be fine!
"I'm not letting go!" You are up a tree and have nothing to brace against.
>226 lesmel: My reaction is very much like Lex's. And yeah, I would sit in my room and play on my computer.
>225 timspalding: I mean, you're mostly not wrong there. But do you really think if he'd been paid more, he wouldn't have done what he did, given the opportunity?
She stays in her room and plays on her computer.
Second character I identify with. :)
There's a great scene in the book where someone thinks the dinosaurs are breeding. So they count the dinosaurs with special cameras. (That this could be done is a problem.) They're supposed to have 280 dinosaurs (or whatever). They have 280 dinosaurs. Then someone has the bright idea: "But the program wasn't designed to see if there were extra dinosaurs. It's counting up to 280." So they find the code and they see that it counts up to the maximum. So they raise it to 281. And… 281. So they set it to 500 and it goes up and up and up.
Anyway, struck and stikes me as very true to how code works.
Who puts the
I would also be
“If the pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don’t eat the tourists”
>245 lesmel: Muldoon probably already knows? Also, kind of short on time?
Grant's spoof of the fence is very much a my dad move. I appreciate it still.
I never understood
I found Timmy's non-death unbelievable when I saw it, but I'm not so sure now.
>253 kristilabrie: It's a cut scene. She trips on the stairs or something like that in the book.
If I had just been through what they'd been through, I'd be ploughing through those desserts the same way.
I just love how they film the jello screne. He's normal then he looks scared. But he's not scared because of a dinosaur. He's looking at her. Then we see her, and she's REALLY scared. Perfect.
USR...as in user? I always thought it was a subtly placed USRobotics ad placement.
I always thought the ceiling screens with GATC over and over were a nice touch.
I just know I had a picture book with a velociraptor attacking a t-rex just that way.
I've always wondered when the T-Rex learned to tip toe.... coming out of no where like that.
And cut to the scientific linkage from dinosaurs to the modern world....
>275 trav: Oh yeah. They totally didn't notice the T. rex sneaking up on them, like it does, you know?
Asked what he was writing, when he was writing the novel, Crichton allegedly said "I'm writing the most expensive movie ever."
I love this movie so much. My son and I saw it a month or so ago. He then wanted to see 2 and then 3. They are SO much worse. So much. (The glass breaking in 2 is good, though.)
Ok. The biggest divergence from the book to the film, IMHO, is Hammond. There's a lot of changes from book to film; but this one sticks out badly. In fact, I didn't like the movie initially because of this change.
I remember reading in Chip Kidd's Book One about Crichton not being a fan of the now-iconic skeletal logo.
I love to look at the names in the credits as a representation of the amazing size and diversity of talent that goes into such things. Hollywood--the staff--is a fantastically diverse place now. Less so when Jurassic Park was made.
I don't recall the book that well. But his
>282 timspalding: I like 2 for the rolicking adventure film it is. It is good, brainless entertainment. 3 is a hot mess. Téa Leoni deserves a Scream Queen award for the film.
Well, this was fun! If I hadn't seen it so recently, I wouldn't have typed so much, and NEVER first time seeing a film.
You'd think a movie with both Jeff Goldblum AND Julianne Moore would better.
Hah. My dog promptly fetched his dinosaur-shaped bone (Stegosaurus, I believe) as soon as I left the movie. He's doing his part to keep us safe.
This was great! Folks who got a later start or were busy tonight, feel free to join in any time!
Anyone else watch, but not type? (Watching and typing is a bit of an art.)
>288 timspalding: The writers make JM's character TSTL.
As long as I maintain the "brainless summer fun" attitude, I'm good with the movie.
My furkids have abandoned me in favor of the bedroom. I am pretty sure that is an unsubtle hint.
This was fun. Thank you for organizing. Wish I'd been on time so I could've enjoyed the whole evening. That's such a fun movie.
One of the resident furballs doesn't care what I do, so long as I remember to feed her. The other one did not like TV shouting and kept demanding treats be dispensed as compensation.
>292 timspalding: Too difficult to type on my tablet but I was here for the whole thing.
We used to have the Jurassic Park SuperNintendo game. The children never got all the way through. I still hold the record for getting into all the buildings and going through the ship to collect all the necessary items to escape the island. The velociraptors were clunky but could kill you and the T rex swallowed you whole.
I wasn't watching the movie, but since I've seen it enough times, I just dropped in now and then to read your comments. It was like I was right there. :-)
>26 lorannen: Wow. Someone referenced the Weird Al song.
I think I'll faint now. :)
Didn't watch the movie but enjoyed reading the comments. Serious flashbacks. The glass of water!
Our daughter, who has recently graduated from college and has been visiting for a few days, suggested last night that we watch Jusassic Park. Odd timing!
Anyway, if anyone’s interested there’s a new book on the latest understanding of dinosaurs: The Rise and Fall of Dinosaurs: A New History of A Lost World. And yes, he references Jurassic Park.
The whole vision-is-based on movement thing is a total guess.
It's worst then that, it just doesn't make any sense. How can it avoid walking into trees if it can't see anything that doesn't move?
>306 jjwilson61: I remember reading somewhere that T rex depended on smell rather than vision. Remaining still simply decreases a predator's notice which may be why many prey animals freeze but it doesn't make them invisible.
>26 lorannen: That was...trippy! First time viewing of that song!
I wasn't able to watch with you all last night, but I did manage to read (and enjoy) the book in the last few years. When the movie first came out, my children were pretty young and we were very protective, so we didn't see it in theaters. Although, we did go to some sort of children's movie, and during the happy film, we could hear the roaring and screaming of Jurassic Park in the theater room next to ours. It was pretty funny.
When I finally did manage to watch Jurassic Park, it was late at night. I was by myself, everyone else at the other end of the house asleep. In the scene where the velociraptors were stalking the children in the dining hall, my Siamese cat suddenly banged against the outside door near me. Quite loudly. I jumped a mile!
>2 cpg: My son and I just watched Jurassic Park together recently. This morning, we watched this video. Enjoyed both highly! Kind of like Independence Day, I enjoy this movie almost because of all the inaccuracies and unbelievable plot points, rather than despite them.
I mean to do this last night, but was so enrapt with the movie, I forgot:
Vote: Show of hands: who here has read the book?
Current tally: Yes 15, No 6
>305 theaelizabet: Thanks for the recommendation! Always need more dinosaur books.
>308 MrsLee: Clever kitty! Yeah, the claymation video is definitely, well, weird, for lack of a better term, but I was very into it as a kid. Alapalooza (the album this song came from) was the first album Weird Al released after I became aware of and hooked on his music. There are still a number of classic songs for which I don't know the real lyrics—just the parody.
>309 sturlington: I couldn't agree more!
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