This topic is currently marked as "dormant"—the last message is more than 90 days old. You can revive it by posting a reply.
1barney67
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436059-alan-dershowitz-how-cnn-misled-it...
"As a liberal Democrat who strongly supported Hillary Clinton, I had some credibility when I raised questions about the certainty with which other CNN guests had declared Trump guilty.
Viewers enjoyed my feisty debates with legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin and asked for more. Host Anderson Cooper enjoyed sparring with me, as did hosts Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon. CNN viewers benefited from evaluating my viewpoints against those of other guests and hosts.
But then, suddenly, I was banned from CNN."
"As a liberal Democrat who strongly supported Hillary Clinton, I had some credibility when I raised questions about the certainty with which other CNN guests had declared Trump guilty.
Viewers enjoyed my feisty debates with legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin and asked for more. Host Anderson Cooper enjoyed sparring with me, as did hosts Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon. CNN viewers benefited from evaluating my viewpoints against those of other guests and hosts.
But then, suddenly, I was banned from CNN."
2prosfilaes
>1 barney67: https://www.popehat.com/2018/12/18/alan-dershowitz-is-lying-to-you/
https://www.popehat.com/2019/01/04/alan-dershowitz-is-still-lying-to-you/
"Dershowitz suggests that he's been falsely accused of being a Trump supporter. Allow me to clarify. I do not believe that Alan Dershowitz supports Donald Trump in his heart. I only think he's willing to use deceit to support Trump's narratives, and the narratives of Trump's obedient media allies, to get on television and in print. Alan Dershowitz doesn't love Trump. But he loves the camera more than he loves the truth."
https://www.popehat.com/2019/01/04/alan-dershowitz-is-still-lying-to-you/
"Dershowitz suggests that he's been falsely accused of being a Trump supporter. Allow me to clarify. I do not believe that Alan Dershowitz supports Donald Trump in his heart. I only think he's willing to use deceit to support Trump's narratives, and the narratives of Trump's obedient media allies, to get on television and in print. Alan Dershowitz doesn't love Trump. But he loves the camera more than he loves the truth."
4prosfilaes
>3 barney67: "A thoughtful person might read this article and look for similar behavior in one's own life or the people one defends, votes for, quotes approvingly, and so on. ... Do you know how to read? That's step one. Learn to read. ... Not everyone with books knows how to read."
6lriley
I get that Alan Dershowitz thinks he's very special. I just don't get why other people do. He does seem very stuck up to me. Is he a liberal? That's questionable but I would say not really. Is he left? That's not questionable. He's not.
He's threatened throwing his support to republican candidates in the past dependent on the democratic candidate's support of lack thereof for the extreme right Netanyahu regime in Israel. Talk about dual loyalty--he's there.
Whether the courts would side with his opinion that an acting POTUS cannot be prosecuted is also debatable. They well might but IMO it's a dangerous precedent if they were to and not just because of the current knucklehead.
As far as CNN and its viewers benefiting from all his wisdom. That really is a laughable statement to make and speaks to his being full of himself. A corporate entertainment/news outlet in an interminable battle for ratings with other corporate entertainment/news outlets. There is some real news/information to be had I suppose from any of them but mixed in with very healthy doses of questionable opinions and propaganda and he's proud to play a part adding in all his bullshit---like what would CNN do without it? Find some other clown? Alan thinks he's indispensable but he's a clown too.
He's threatened throwing his support to republican candidates in the past dependent on the democratic candidate's support of lack thereof for the extreme right Netanyahu regime in Israel. Talk about dual loyalty--he's there.
Whether the courts would side with his opinion that an acting POTUS cannot be prosecuted is also debatable. They well might but IMO it's a dangerous precedent if they were to and not just because of the current knucklehead.
As far as CNN and its viewers benefiting from all his wisdom. That really is a laughable statement to make and speaks to his being full of himself. A corporate entertainment/news outlet in an interminable battle for ratings with other corporate entertainment/news outlets. There is some real news/information to be had I suppose from any of them but mixed in with very healthy doses of questionable opinions and propaganda and he's proud to play a part adding in all his bullshit---like what would CNN do without it? Find some other clown? Alan thinks he's indispensable but he's a clown too.
7barney67
>6 lriley: "I get that Alan Dershowitz thinks he's very special."
Oh, you do? Is that the problem? It's an old tactic. Attack the person rather than the argument. You don't like what Dershowitz says, so you dislike him. Do you know him? I don't. That's what happens when people personalize politics. It leads to all kinds of problems. Personal problems especially.
Oh, you do? Is that the problem? It's an old tactic. Attack the person rather than the argument. You don't like what Dershowitz says, so you dislike him. Do you know him? I don't. That's what happens when people personalize politics. It leads to all kinds of problems. Personal problems especially.
8JGL53
Alan Dershowitz does not stand for any principles or any particular viewpoint - he is just a media whore. He is an empty suit filled with narcissism and nothing else. He is like a less successful version of d. trump, Commander-in-Chump.
Time spent on A.D. is time wasted. Move on, people. Nothing to see here.
Time spent on A.D. is time wasted. Move on, people. Nothing to see here.
9lriley
#7--what is the argument?--that you think is being made. His contention that he had some credibility when Hillary Clinton was around? Or his certainty about Trump's innocence or guilt? Or is it that people enjoyed his feisty debates with Jeffery Toobin? and other CNN related nonsensical crap. Is any of that what the argument is?
Who the fuck is he? Really--I'd like to know. Why him and not some other ambulance chaser? Do you think I should give whatever it is he has to say more weight than whatever you have to say? Is that it?
As far as I'm concerned there is no argument. At least not any argument that you have offered up yet--maybe you can tell us what is so important about Alan Dershowitz? I'd like to read that. All I can say is I've never liked him from the day I first set eyes on him.
Who the fuck is he? Really--I'd like to know. Why him and not some other ambulance chaser? Do you think I should give whatever it is he has to say more weight than whatever you have to say? Is that it?
As far as I'm concerned there is no argument. At least not any argument that you have offered up yet--maybe you can tell us what is so important about Alan Dershowitz? I'd like to read that. All I can say is I've never liked him from the day I first set eyes on him.
10barney67
>9 lriley: So you don't believe anything anyone says, right? Unless you agree with it. Other than that, you know everything, and everyone else knows nothing. What color is the sky in your world?
Here's what you are supposed to have learned from this story. CNN hires Alan Dershowitz, a law professor at Harvard who often appears on TV. He is a liberal Democrat. That's why the networks put him on the air. He is put forward as an expert and authority. But hen he begins to doubt Robert Mueller's witch hunt, CNN basically fires him and he's never invited back. That reflects badly on CNN. I never cared much for Dershowitz except when he debated Noam Chomsky. He revealed Chomsky is a nitwit and anti-Semite, and for that I'm grateful.
But it doesn't matter whether Dershowitz is nice. What matters to people who have the brains to analyze news is whether he was right. And it turned out he was. The mature way to treat this story is to say, OK, he was right, I learned something, now move on. Go and sin no more.
Here's what you are supposed to have learned from this story. CNN hires Alan Dershowitz, a law professor at Harvard who often appears on TV. He is a liberal Democrat. That's why the networks put him on the air. He is put forward as an expert and authority. But hen he begins to doubt Robert Mueller's witch hunt, CNN basically fires him and he's never invited back. That reflects badly on CNN. I never cared much for Dershowitz except when he debated Noam Chomsky. He revealed Chomsky is a nitwit and anti-Semite, and for that I'm grateful.
But it doesn't matter whether Dershowitz is nice. What matters to people who have the brains to analyze news is whether he was right. And it turned out he was. The mature way to treat this story is to say, OK, he was right, I learned something, now move on. Go and sin no more.
11lriley
#10--LOL! LOL! LOL! So you don't believe anything anyone say unless you agree with it? Not quite--but you're real close. I can believe anyone saying anything because anyone can say all kinds of things.
12prosfilaes
>10 barney67: As I pointed out in >2 prosfilaes:, he was spreading falsehoods.
Very little about Trump has been proven; until we see a little more of the Muller report, I think it's still reasonable to be skeptical. It is going to take decades until classified intelligence gets declassified and anywhere near the full story can be written.
Very little about Trump has been proven; until we see a little more of the Muller report, I think it's still reasonable to be skeptical. It is going to take decades until classified intelligence gets declassified and anywhere near the full story can be written.
13barney67
I agree. Nothing negative about Trump has been proven. All the Democrats have going into the election is "he's not nice like we are" which is what they say every day and every election and which everyone knows is false.
People who are full of hate will never accept the truth. They are blinded by hate and stupidity. Like when grown men use acronyms like LOL. It's not even worth ridiculing because it's so pathetic.
People who are full of hate will never accept the truth. They are blinded by hate and stupidity. Like when grown men use acronyms like LOL. It's not even worth ridiculing because it's so pathetic.
14prosfilaes
>13 barney67: Nothing negative about Trump has been proven.
Do you believe that it's okay to grab women by the crotch? That it's okay to abuse the dead and moot? His words have damned him enough, and while I've met Republicans who accept that Trump is scum but that's okay, believing that everything that has come out of Trump's mouth is okay is well into the truth-free or moral-free zone, or both.
Do you believe that it's okay to grab women by the crotch? That it's okay to abuse the dead and moot? His words have damned him enough, and while I've met Republicans who accept that Trump is scum but that's okay, believing that everything that has come out of Trump's mouth is okay is well into the truth-free or moral-free zone, or both.
15barney67
>14 prosfilaes: Gibberish. A dumb rant.
16lriley
Continual attacks on Muslims and Hispanics throughout his two years. Can't make up his mind whether he likes the extreme right Netanyahu regime more than the white racist and anti-Jewish nationalists here in America. The 'blood and soil' chants at Charlottesville seemed to have passed right by some people. Gee--how could anyone think this guy might just be racist and a xenophobe? Has he left any clues along the way?
18lriley
#17--yes--that's exactly what I thought too whenever he's talked about the need for a wall or that there were good people among the Klan and white supremacy groups. Glad we finally agree on something.
20barney67
>19 mamzel: Didn't work. Picture is not showing.
26proximity1
>25 mamzel:
Good! You'd do better to leave it to him (or her) to conceive, draft and post your commentaries here.
Dogs, bless them, are lousy liars.
