May ScaredyKit: Scary Children!
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1mstrust

May is Horror for Children/Horrifying Children month. Whether you're discovering the current terrifying reads for kids, looking for the nostalgia of what kept you awake as a kid, or longing for a story that gives you that unsettling feeling of a baby's "I'm reading your mind" stare, this month's topic has plenty of leeway in terms of how frightened you want to be. I'm considering the word "child" to include anyone under 18 years of age, which broadens the topic to include teens. Brrrr!
These tales can be scary in a supernatural way or a murdering neighbor way or a portal to Hell way...your choice!

In the Horror for Children category are many options:
The Goosebumps series
The Spooksville series
books by John Bellairs
The Graveyard Book and Coraline
A Series of Unfortunate Events
The Robe of Skulls
the short stories of Alvin Schwartz
Took: A Ghost Story
Wait Till Helen Comes
Dial-A-Ghost
Down A Dark Hall
Or choose a book that features a creepy or horrifying kid. Just some choices in this rich vein:
The Bad Seed
The Midwich Cuckoos
The Other
Carrie, The Shining or Pet Semetary
The Exorcist
My Best Friend's Exorcism
Shadowland
A Head Full of Ghosts
Lord of the Flies
The Troop
The series A Tale Dark & Grimm
Slade House
The Gates

Let's include a non-fiction category as well, for the scary things that have really happened when children have been around. A few choices:
The Suspicions of Mr. Whicher
The Witches: Salem 1692
Alive or Miracle in the Andes
The Case of Mary Bell
Bloody Murder: The Homicide Tradition in Children's Literature
Be sure to include your reads in the WikiLink: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/2019_ScaredyKIT
Make May scary!
3mstrust
I've read it and can verify that it's scary. Enjoy!
I'm going to read Say Cheese and Die! from the Goosebumps series, and Thirsty by M.T. Anderson. I think I'll see if my library has A Head Full of Ghosts too, as that gets good reviews.
I'm going to read Say Cheese and Die! from the Goosebumps series, and Thirsty by M.T. Anderson. I think I'll see if my library has A Head Full of Ghosts too, as that gets good reviews.
4NinieB
>3 mstrust: Great, I will look forward to it!
5DeltaQueen50
I am going to be reading The Moor by Sam Haysom, a horror tale that features teenagers on a camping trip.
6LibraryCin
I was going to read this this month, originally, but it's not going to happen, so it should work for next month:
A Taste for Monsters / Matthew J. Kirby
A Taste for Monsters / Matthew J. Kirby
7NinieB
I just noticed that the NPR 100 Best Horror Novels and Stories has two categories appropriate for this challenge: "The Kids Aren't All Right: Creepy Kids" and "Scar Your Children: Horror For Beginners" (horror for kids).
8mstrust
>5 DeltaQueen50: That looks like a good one, so I look forward to seeing what you think. Camping trip + the moors sounds like gold.
>6 LibraryCin: That's a new one to me and the summary sounds great. Cool cover too.
>7 NinieB: I came across that article while making my lists and I was able to get a couple of suggestions. Handy guide!
>6 LibraryCin: That's a new one to me and the summary sounds great. Cool cover too.
>7 NinieB: I came across that article while making my lists and I was able to get a couple of suggestions. Handy guide!
9PaperbackPirate
May is a crazy time of year for me, but I'm going to try to join you!
10sturlington
I would like to read Baby Teeth if I can get it from the library.
I read two books recently that would qualify. Elizabeth is a classic that I think has recently been reissued, and The Murders of Molly Southbourne is a more recent novella. Both about teens with strange powers.
I read two books recently that would qualify. Elizabeth is a classic that I think has recently been reissued, and The Murders of Molly Southbourne is a more recent novella. Both about teens with strange powers.
11mstrust
>9 PaperbackPirate: I hope you're able to make it!
>10 sturlington: The Murders of Molly Southbourne is a new one to me, and the premise sounds very unusual. Do give us your opinions of both of these in May! And Baby Teeth, if you're able to get it.
>10 sturlington: The Murders of Molly Southbourne is a new one to me, and the premise sounds very unusual. Do give us your opinions of both of these in May! And Baby Teeth, if you're able to get it.
12sturlington
>11 mstrust: I gave both books 4 stars. My stronger recommendation goes to The Murders of Molly Southbourne -- it's an unusual premise and well executed. Also it's short. Elizabeth is good campy fun from the 1970s. It would pair well with The Other.
14NinieB
>12 sturlington: Elizabeth looks interesting--I will take this as a BB!
15Tess_W
I have an entire anthology of Grimm's Fairytales that I'm going to try to use for this challenge. I will pick out the ones "starring" children; although I think most of the stories were written for children.
16Robertgreaves
I could re-read The Midwich Cuckoos, I suppose, though at 200+ pages it's hardly a short story. It scared me half to death as a 13 or 14 year old.
17mstrust
>14 NinieB: Creepy cover!
>15 Tess_W: Yes, Grimm's would be a treasure trove of children's horror. You'll be spoiled for choices about horrible things happening to children.
>16 Robertgreaves: I've never read it myself, and I don't know why it's been listed as a short story so many times at that length.
Would we be interested in doing a group movie watch in May? Between Netflix, Amazon streaming, pay-per-view, Redbox and Youtube, maybe we could have a movie night and discussion. Let me know if anyone's interested.
>15 Tess_W: Yes, Grimm's would be a treasure trove of children's horror. You'll be spoiled for choices about horrible things happening to children.
>16 Robertgreaves: I've never read it myself, and I don't know why it's been listed as a short story so many times at that length.
Would we be interested in doing a group movie watch in May? Between Netflix, Amazon streaming, pay-per-view, Redbox and Youtube, maybe we could have a movie night and discussion. Let me know if anyone's interested.
18sturlington
>17 mstrust: I would be interested in a movie watch.
19Tess_W
>17 mstrust: Yes, I would be interested.
20mstrust
>18 sturlington: >19 Tess_W: Great! So we'll need to pick both a movie and a day. Is a weekday or weekend better? Or we can designate a weekend to watch the chosen movie and start the discussion on a Monday.
I've looked around a little for the movies on the list. On Netflix, I only found Coraline and Goosebumps and ASOUE tv series. Amazon Prime streaming has pay-per-views of the recent IT, The Shining and The Exorcist. I'm going to check the upcoming schedule for TCM and see if we have a match there.
Update- I looked at TCM's May schedule and found two options. These are on the American schedule.
The Bad Seed airs Monday, May 13th at 1:15pm
The Nanny (starring Bette Davis) airs May 24th at 6:15pm.
I've looked around a little for the movies on the list. On Netflix, I only found Coraline and Goosebumps and ASOUE tv series. Amazon Prime streaming has pay-per-views of the recent IT, The Shining and The Exorcist. I'm going to check the upcoming schedule for TCM and see if we have a match there.
Update- I looked at TCM's May schedule and found two options. These are on the American schedule.
The Bad Seed airs Monday, May 13th at 1:15pm
The Nanny (starring Bette Davis) airs May 24th at 6:15pm.
21Tess_W
>20 mstrust: Has to be a weekend for me, unless we do this after June 1 (my last day of school). I would love to watch Coraline, as 2 of my granddaughters say it is "good." But, I'm open to most any movie!
22sturlington
I don't get TCM in my current setup but I am willing to rent or get from the library if available. I recently watched Coraline and liked it. I would watch any of these suggestions.
23LibraryCin
Group movie watch sounds fun if I can fit in the time and if I have access to the movie. Weekends are always better for me.
24Robertgreaves
>17 mstrust: Sorry, a group movie watch sounds fun but because of the time difference (i'm on WIB (GMT + 7)), it probably wouldn't work for me.
25mstrust
>21 Tess_W: One vote for a weekend.
One vote for Coraline. (Your granddaughters are right.)
>22 sturlington: You're very nice to be this flexible! If there's a particular choice you'd prefer, go ahead and vote for it and we'll see what wins.
>23 LibraryCin: Two votes for the weekend. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that whatever movie we decide on doesn't suddenly get yanked from all the services.
>24 Robertgreaves: That's why I suggested a designated weekend so everyone would have 2-3 days to watch rather than one. Then we can meet here on Monday and hopefully everyone who wanted to take part will have had a chance to watch.
So would the weekend of May 17-19 work for everybody? This would be three days to watch the movie and we'd start our discussion on Monday the 20th.
One vote for Coraline. (Your granddaughters are right.)
>22 sturlington: You're very nice to be this flexible! If there's a particular choice you'd prefer, go ahead and vote for it and we'll see what wins.
>23 LibraryCin: Two votes for the weekend. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that whatever movie we decide on doesn't suddenly get yanked from all the services.
>24 Robertgreaves: That's why I suggested a designated weekend so everyone would have 2-3 days to watch rather than one. Then we can meet here on Monday and hopefully everyone who wanted to take part will have had a chance to watch.
So would the weekend of May 17-19 work for everybody? This would be three days to watch the movie and we'd start our discussion on Monday the 20th.
26mstrust
I've just discovered that there was a 2018 remake of The Bad Seed starring Rob Lowe, Grace McKenna and Patty McCormick. It was made by Lifetime. So you can consider that one too.
27sturlington
>25 mstrust: I've seen IT, The Shining, and The Exorcist, but would watch any of them again for a group discussion. The Nanny sounds great but doesn't look rentable, so my vote would be for The Bad Seed.
That weekend works for me.
That weekend works for me.
28mstrust
I've seen The Shining and The Exorcist many times but would be fine seeing either again. They're both movies that can still shock and lead to an interesting discussion. I haven't seen the recent version of IT. I haven't seen The Bad Seed in many years.
So far, one vote for Coraline and one for The Bad Seed.
So far, one vote for Coraline and one for The Bad Seed.
29whitewavedarling
I'll be reading John Saul's horror novel, Shadows; it features a child...
Also, with all the talk of the Shining, I can't resist telling you all that I'm going to be heading out to Colorado in November to attend an author con and do a signing at THE STANLEY, where Kubrick's version of the novel was filmed! My husband and I are kind of over the moon about it, though I think my mom thinks we're both insane now :)
Also, with all the talk of the Shining, I can't resist telling you all that I'm going to be heading out to Colorado in November to attend an author con and do a signing at THE STANLEY, where Kubrick's version of the novel was filmed! My husband and I are kind of over the moon about it, though I think my mom thinks we're both insane now :)
30mstrust
That sounds fantastic! The Stanley is beautiful and I'm a Shining fan. Who will be appearing at the con?
31whitewavedarling
>30 mstrust:, It'll be mostly indie writers--either folks like me who publish through small presses or successful self-publishers--but they're still in the process of announcing authors, and it's such a new development, I've only barely looked at the list lol. I'm just so excited to go, I can't wait! I'll make sure to post a link to the website on my thread sooner than later--if you're interested, let me know and I can leave you a private message, too, to make sure you see it :)
32mstrust
Yes, do send me the link, or put it on your profile page so everyone can check it out. It sounds like a really exciting event!
33sturlington
I finished my selection early and I can't recommend it: Baby Teeth by Zoje Stage. I believe this is my first 2-star book for the year. My review is posted if you're curious.
34mstrust
Looks like you aren't alone in feeling the writing didn't meet the premise on that one. Sorry, but the good news is that you got it out of the way in time for the May thread ;-). Next one will be better.
And just a reminder of where we stand on the group movie: we're still at one vote for "Coraline", one vote for "The Bad Seed".
And just a reminder of where we stand on the group movie: we're still at one vote for "Coraline", one vote for "The Bad Seed".
35LibraryCin
>34 mstrust: I was going to let the group decide the movie, then see if I can get it somewhere!
ETA: I see Coraline is on Netflix. I'm not sure if I get TCM (for "The Bad Seed") or not. Will have to find out. I could also check to see if it's available via my tv provider's "on demand".
ETA (again): I decided to add TCM to my channels. Apparently I didn't already have it.
ETA: I see Coraline is on Netflix. I'm not sure if I get TCM (for "The Bad Seed") or not. Will have to find out. I could also check to see if it's available via my tv provider's "on demand".
ETA (again): I decided to add TCM to my channels. Apparently I didn't already have it.
36mstrust
:-D, Enjoy TCM, and look at this thread changing your life!
Anyone who wants to vote for a movie, do so. May starts on Wednesday.
Anyone who wants to vote for a movie, do so. May starts on Wednesday.
37LibraryCin
>36 mstrust: LOL! I really thought I already had it! I may not keep it, as I'm trying to find ways to save money, not spend more!, but I'll keep it for a bit.
38LisaMorr
Saw you had Lord of the Flies on your list, and I still haven't gotten to that one yet, and it's a 1001 book to boot, so that's my choice this month.
39mstrust
>37 LibraryCin: Yeah, it's such a racket how they put the exact channel you want in a more expensive tier. At least you'll have it for May and can watch "The Bad Seed" if you'd like. TCM really has better movies than AMC, in my opinion, because they actual classics and cover everything from silents to about the 80's.
>38 LisaMorr: I think a book about a group of boys left to manage themselves qualifies as a horror story. I'm glad you'll get some extra credit for it.
And I've just returned from the library, where I was able to get exactly what I was hoping for, A Head Full of Ghosts. I also spotted a new R'L. Stine, Drop Dead Gorgeous, from the "Return to Fear Street" series.
>38 LisaMorr: I think a book about a group of boys left to manage themselves qualifies as a horror story. I'm glad you'll get some extra credit for it.
And I've just returned from the library, where I was able to get exactly what I was hoping for, A Head Full of Ghosts. I also spotted a new R'L. Stine, Drop Dead Gorgeous, from the "Return to Fear Street" series.
40NinieB
I'm still planning to read The Other. However, I came across a mention of another book that would fit the horrific children theme: Our Mother's House by Julian Gloag, from the mid-1960s. The basic plot is a family of seven children hide their mother's death by burying her in the garden. It's supposed to be quite dark. I'm hoping to have a chance to read it sometime soon.
41mstrust
I haven't heard of that one before and its summary sounds very appropriate for this month, very dark.
I've started my May reads and should have my first review tomorrow.
I've started my May reads and should have my first review tomorrow.
42LibraryCin
>39 mstrust: Hmmm, maybe it's ACM that I have... (I don't pay for it separately, if I do; whatever I thought I had (if I do!) comes with my basic cable.)
44mstrust
It's May, time to be officially frightened by children.
Let's give until Monday, May 8th for anyone who wants to vote for the group scary movie. The choices are:
Caroline- available on Netflix
The Bad Seed- airing on TCM on May 13th 1:15 pm.
The weekend of May 17-19 is our chance for everyone who wants to take part to view the movie, and discussion starts the 20th.
Let's give until Monday, May 8th for anyone who wants to vote for the group scary movie. The choices are:
Caroline- available on Netflix
The Bad Seed- airing on TCM on May 13th 1:15 pm.
The weekend of May 17-19 is our chance for everyone who wants to take part to view the movie, and discussion starts the 20th.
45mstrust

I'm starting with a scary-for-kids read, #8 in the Goosebumps series, published in 1992. Say Cheese and Die by R.L. Stine is about a young boy and his friends who break into the local scary, abandoned house out of boredom. Greg finds a camera that can predict the future in its photos, and the future is all disasters.
The Goosebumps series is on Netflix, and this episode stars a little Ryan Gosling as Greg.
46SomeGuyInVirginia
I'm in! It will have to be Caroline for me, since I still haven't set up my tv and don't have access to TMC.
47SomeGuyInVirginia
Oh oh oh! Add Jeff Strand to the author list. He writes some horror for kids. I just finished I Have a Bad Feeling About This and it was good mind candy.
48mstrust
>46 SomeGuyInVirginia: Great, that's two votes for Coraline!
>47 SomeGuyInVirginia: I Have a Bad Feeling About This, got it. A boys summer camp survival story with an interesting cover. Thanks!
>47 SomeGuyInVirginia: I Have a Bad Feeling About This, got it. A boys summer camp survival story with an interesting cover. Thanks!
49Tess_W
>44 mstrust: will have to be Coraline for me as I don't have TCM but do have Netflix
50mstrust
Three votes for Coraline!

I've read Thirsty by M.T. Anderson, an alternative universe story about a high school boy who is slowly changing into a vampire and has the fate of mankind dumped on him. Published in 1997, which seems to pre-date the official YA genre. The writing is much better than expected.

I've read Thirsty by M.T. Anderson, an alternative universe story about a high school boy who is slowly changing into a vampire and has the fate of mankind dumped on him. Published in 1997, which seems to pre-date the official YA genre. The writing is much better than expected.
51mstrust
The movie adaption of the Alvin Schwartz children's horror stories is in some theaters now, and will go to streaming in a few days. Looks pretty creepy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMGdWxOub68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMGdWxOub68
52lowelibrary
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53mstrust
I'm almost halfway through A Head Full of Ghosts. It's a modern and unique take on possession.
54chlorine
>53 mstrust: It sounds quite interesting. Do you like it so far?
55mstrust
I do like it. It has three timelines, the one narrated by eight year-old Merry while the possession of her older sister is unfolding, another fifteen years later as she's working with what may be an interviewer (I think), and another that is years after that of a horror blogger describing the iconic reality show that came from the story of Merry's family. So a creative way of giving several viewpoints. Oh, and there's some Exorcist style stuff going on.
56SomeGuyInVirginia
I really liked Head Full of Ghosts although going in I thought it was going to be hipster angst. So wrong. It was serendipity, but I read John Searles' Help For the Haunted right before and really liked that, too.
57sturlington
>55 mstrust: I loved it when I read it.
58mstrust
Right after I posted my comment, I started the next chapter, which makes it clear that the grown Merry and the blogger are in the same timeline. It's so interesting and I hate having to put it down.
>56 SomeGuyInVirginia: I'd never heard of it until I listened to a recent episode of the What Should I Read Next podcast about reading horror. Noting Help For the Haunted. I'm sure I have plenty of reads already for Halloween this year, but I can't pass up your rec or a title like that.
>57 sturlington: I can see why. I'll be looking for more from him.
>56 SomeGuyInVirginia: I'd never heard of it until I listened to a recent episode of the What Should I Read Next podcast about reading horror. Noting Help For the Haunted. I'm sure I have plenty of reads already for Halloween this year, but I can't pass up your rec or a title like that.
>57 sturlington: I can see why. I'll be looking for more from him.
59mstrust

Oh, almost forgot to make it official: Coraline won for our group movie, with a landslide of three votes!
We'll start discussion of the movie on Monday, May 20th, so that gives everyone who wants to join in two weeks to see it. It's on Netflix, but it's likely you can also find it at the library or Redbox.
60sturlington
>58 mstrust: May I suggest The Cabin at the End of the World?
61mstrust
Yes, I want to read that one too! Looking at Tremblay's long list of published works and seeing that he's pretty young, I think he may be afflicted with Stephen King syndrome where he must go into withdrawals if he doesn't write a couple books a year.
62SomeGuyInVirginia
I loved The Cabin at the End of the World! Better than A Headful of Ghosts.
I don't know if it was a rift in the space/time continuum but I was able to download King's latest yesterday from the lie-berry. I didn't think it would be available for months.
I don't know if it was a rift in the space/time continuum but I was able to download King's latest yesterday from the lie-berry. I didn't think it would be available for months.
63LibraryCin
More YA than Children's, but here it is, anyway...
A Taste for Monsters / Matthew J. Kirby
3.5 stars
Evelyn heads to a hospital in the East End of London not long before the Jack the Ripper killings begin. She is hoping to find employment as a nurse; instead, she is offered a position is a maid to Joseph Merrick, who resides at the hospital. Merrick is more well-known as “the Elephant Man”. Once the Ripper killings begin, Evelyn must help Mr. Merrick deal with the ghosts that are showing up nightly.
I enjoyed this. It’s YA, and I would have liked to have an author’s note. It seems to me that the information about the Ripper killings and his victims was pretty factual, but this is the first I’ve read about Merrick and would like to know more about him. I expect that him living in the hospital and not going out is probably pretty accurate. But, I don’t really know. I did enjoy this story, though. Evelyn was also coming to terms with her facial disfigurement, from “phossy jaw” at her former workplace and preferred to stay inside the hospital herself.
A Taste for Monsters / Matthew J. Kirby
3.5 stars
Evelyn heads to a hospital in the East End of London not long before the Jack the Ripper killings begin. She is hoping to find employment as a nurse; instead, she is offered a position is a maid to Joseph Merrick, who resides at the hospital. Merrick is more well-known as “the Elephant Man”. Once the Ripper killings begin, Evelyn must help Mr. Merrick deal with the ghosts that are showing up nightly.
I enjoyed this. It’s YA, and I would have liked to have an author’s note. It seems to me that the information about the Ripper killings and his victims was pretty factual, but this is the first I’ve read about Merrick and would like to know more about him. I expect that him living in the hospital and not going out is probably pretty accurate. But, I don’t really know. I did enjoy this story, though. Evelyn was also coming to terms with her facial disfigurement, from “phossy jaw” at her former workplace and preferred to stay inside the hospital herself.
64DeltaQueen50
I have completed my read of The Moor by Sam Haysom. This was a dark and atmospheric story set in the fictional Rutmoor (substitute Dartmoor) National Park as a group of boy's camping trip spirals into horror.
65chlorine
>55 mstrust: >57 sturlington: Thanks for the feedback! I'll decide on my book for this theme once I've finished my book for the SFFKit but A head full og ghosts is very high on my list!
66mstrust
>62 SomeGuyInVirginia: Which King is that? I picked up Elevation a few weeks ago but haven't gotten to it.
>63 LibraryCin: The Elephant Man and Jack the Ripper in the same story? We're being spoiled. Thanks for the review.
>64 DeltaQueen50: That's on my WL. I need it for Halloween, if not sooner.
>65 chlorine: You're welcome! Come join us soon.
>63 LibraryCin: The Elephant Man and Jack the Ripper in the same story? We're being spoiled. Thanks for the review.
>64 DeltaQueen50: That's on my WL. I need it for Halloween, if not sooner.
>65 chlorine: You're welcome! Come join us soon.
67LibraryCin
>66 mstrust: Ha! Yes! I did know that the Elephant Man lived at the time of the Ripper murders, and being in the same city with the same timing, it's funny it hasn't really come up before!
69mstrust

A really good story that raises so many questions, as it's mostly told by an eight year old who describes her older sister's demonic possession, or is it mental illness? I gave this one 4.2 stars. Very recommended.
70AHS-Wolfy
I'm glad the age limit for this topic was set at 18 at's been a while since I originally read it and I've been tempted to return to Battle Royale by Koushun Takami. If I remember correctly the students selected are around 15 years old so should fit in here quite well.
72LibraryCin
>71 Robertgreaves: Wow, cool! Thanks for the link!
ETA: It really sounds like the book was true to life for Merrick.
ETA: It really sounds like the book was true to life for Merrick.
73mstrust
>71 Robertgreaves: Very interesting, thanks for the link. She put a lot of work into finding him.
74Tess_W
So my original idea was to stick with The Grimm's Brothers Fairy Tales because I had heard they were pretty gruesome. My book is the complete works and the back section is labeled "Children's Legends", so I thought I would read that section. I had never planned on reading the entire book for this month, but use it in a few other places throughout the year until the book was finished. I read these legends and I was quite disappointed. They were all almost taken from Scripture (The Prodigal Son, The Last Supper, etc.) only had children at the center; many of which died. These weren't really scary, but perhaps if children read them they might be scared? I would sure be scared of God if I was child and read these stories! I was rather disappointed, I expected more.
75mstrust
I have maybe four editions of Brothers Grimm, and I always found the pre-Disneyfied stories to be surprisingly brutal towards children, such as the original Cinderella, where the step-sisters butcher their feet to make the glass slipper fit. But have you tried A Tale Dark & Grimm, the series of re-tellings? They have many horrible things but told in a sometimes humorous tone.
76mathgirl40
I finished Beneath the Sugar Sky by Seanan McGuire. This is the third book in her Wayward Children series. It's got a few elements of horror, though it's not quite as "horrific" as the previous book in the series, Down Among the Sticks and Bones.
77MissWatson
>74 Tess_W: I think this misunderstanding is due to the difficulties of translation. In the days of the Grimms, "Legenden" was used strictly for stories of the saints or from the Bible. The other legends, mythical tales from a distant past, were always "Sagen", which is not at all the same as Icelandic sagas.
78Tess_W
>77 MissWatson: TY for that info, makes more sense now!
79MissWatson
>78 Tess_W: It's interesting to see how words subtly change their meaning over the centuries. Nowadays we use "Legenden" in the sense of myths, but my encyclopedia (edited in the 1980s) only knows it in the religious sense, and as an explanatory text for images.
80Kristelh
I think I will try to read Witches Salem 1692 by Stacy Schiff for this one
81NinieB
For ScaredyKIT this month, I read The Other by Thomas Tryon. It is psychological horror, achieved without use of the supernatural. It also offers a fully evoked summer of 1935, in small-town Connecticut. And twins. Horrific twins.
82mstrust
>81 NinieB: I'm glad the scariness still holds up for modern readers.
83NinieB
>82 mstrust: I had been reading in dribs and drabs but yesterday I finally reached the big plot twist, about 3/4 of the way through, and I was able to read the rest the same evening. So when I wrote my comments last night, I hadn't really processed yet. I'm going to have to reread, sometime in the near future. Also, while I gave it 3.5 stars yesterday, I have to raise that because I am increasingly impressed as I mull it over today. Thank you for the recommendation!!
84mstrust
:-D You're welcome, and I do know the plot twist your refer to, and isn't it a doozy? The Other is one of those books that makes you say, "Children are creepy!"
85mstrust
Just a reminder that our discussion of the movie Coraline starts Monday, so you still have a few days to see it.
86LibraryCin
>85 mstrust: I was planning to watch "Coraline" this weekend! Since I added TCM to my tv channels, anyway, I ended up "taping" the other one, as well. Not sure when I'll watch it, but I decided I might as well watch it, too!
87mstrust
I can't remember the child actresses' name, but she does a pretty good job at being crazy. Enjoy!
88SomeGuyInVirginia
I'm pretty much going to have to just breath into a paper bag until IT II opens later this year. You know, I've been meaning to mention a book you may like if you like Tremblay, The Last Days of Jack Sparks. I read it last year and it wasn't as good as Head Full of Ghosts, but it was pretty good and in a similar vein.
89mstrust

I've read Return to Fear Street: Drop Dead Gorgeous, which is in the new revival of the "Fear Street" series by R.L. Stine. These are for older kids than the Goosebumps series.
This is about very beautiful Morgan, who is a new transfer. In a group of six friends, the boys immediately begin competing for Morgan's attention. Julie works in the school office and realizes that Morgan's past is pretty vague, and then she opens Morgan's file and finds some interesting information, while Liam discovers that he should have been paying attention to Morgan's behavior much earlier. You can probably guess what's going on, but it's an entertaining read.
90mstrust
>88 SomeGuyInVirginia: I saw the trailer for IT was available but I haven't watched it. IT!
Thanks for the rec, I definitely want to read more from Tremblay.
Thanks for the rec, I definitely want to read more from Tremblay.
91lowelibrary
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92mstrust

Coraline Discussion
Let's open the Coraline movie discussion.
The book was published in 2002, the movie released in 2009. The actors are Dakota Fanning, Teri Hatcher, John Hodgman, Keith David, Ian McShane, Dawn French, Jennifer Saunders and Robert Bailey Jr.
My opinion is that the book is pretty scary for kids, while the movie gets "bigger". First time viewers start out thinking that the buttons are going to be the scariest part, but it gets scarier.
The neighbors are loud performers who become even more freakish in the other world, with the performance of Spink and Forcible becoming grotesque. It's startling to see a very busty character wearing pasties in a children's movie, ha!
The "other mother" is very scary, like a mechanical spider. Whenever a friendly character says ,"Soon you'll see things our way," that's trouble.
The father in the real world was very easygoing, allowing his wife to pretty much run the family, while in the other world, he was literally a puppet for his "wife". As the other world was something of a reflection of the real world, did Coraline see her real father as being weak while her mother, the stronger personality, as a monster?
And I'll mention that I found the animation of the father pretty creepy, as his neck and head looked like a leg and foot. My eyes kept being drawn to it.

What did you think?
93LibraryCin
>92 mstrust: Have to admit that it's been so long since I read the book that I can't compare. All I really remembered were the button eyes!!!
I didn't think of the father's head/neck as a leg/foot, but it was a bit odd. Wonder why they animated him that way?
Yeah, that mermaid performance was... interesting!
The music was appropriately creepy, I thought. :-)
I didn't think of the father's head/neck as a leg/foot, but it was a bit odd. Wonder why they animated him that way?
Yeah, that mermaid performance was... interesting!
The music was appropriately creepy, I thought. :-)
94LibraryCin
I know "The Bad Seed" wasn't voted as the one to watch and discuss, but I feel like it would have had lots to discuss. Has anyone else seen it? (I watched both movies this weekend.) Whoa - that kid!
It's interesting we voted between a scary movie for kids and a movie was a very creepy (psychopathic) child, but obviously a movie for adults.
It's interesting we voted between a scary movie for kids and a movie was a very creepy (psychopathic) child, but obviously a movie for adults.
95mstrust
>93 LibraryCin: It's been a long time since I read the book too. This was maybe the third time that I've seen the movie, but it had been six or seven years since I last saw it, so I'd forgotten some of the details. I think I found it even more entertaining than before. And I may be wrong, but I think it had been many years since French & Saunders had worked together.
I wish Gaiman's The Graveyard Book would be animated like this.
>94 LibraryCin: I saw The Bad Seed many years ago. It's really a must-see for scary movie fans, or as a Halloween movie. She's a terrifying kid!
Here's a short scene of Patty McCormack's performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1kOXfKJSM8
I think the choice for Coraline probably came down to it being readily available on Netflix or the library. And with it being a kid's movie, no one had to worry about it being too scary, but it certainly has a highly imaginative plot.
I wish Gaiman's The Graveyard Book would be animated like this.
>94 LibraryCin: I saw The Bad Seed many years ago. It's really a must-see for scary movie fans, or as a Halloween movie. She's a terrifying kid!
Here's a short scene of Patty McCormack's performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1kOXfKJSM8
I think the choice for Coraline probably came down to it being readily available on Netflix or the library. And with it being a kid's movie, no one had to worry about it being too scary, but it certainly has a highly imaginative plot.
96LibraryCin
>95 mstrust: Great clip! Good thought about Coraline being more readily available.
97mstrust
It wasn't until I was almost finsihed with this one that I realized I had read two Stine's in a row.

Goosebumps Most Wanted: Planet of the Lawn Gnomes by R.L. Stine. Published in 2012. Just look at those scary faces. Twelve year-old Jay and his family have just moved to a new neighborhood. He notices the neighbors all share the same quirk of having their yards filled with ugly little garden gnome statues, including Mr. McClatchy, the grumpy old man across the street who Jay decides to needle. As the reader learns more about Jay he becomes less sympathetic, and his problems keep getting bigger and bigger. It's a good one with a clever ending.

Goosebumps Most Wanted: Planet of the Lawn Gnomes by R.L. Stine. Published in 2012. Just look at those scary faces. Twelve year-old Jay and his family have just moved to a new neighborhood. He notices the neighbors all share the same quirk of having their yards filled with ugly little garden gnome statues, including Mr. McClatchy, the grumpy old man across the street who Jay decides to needle. As the reader learns more about Jay he becomes less sympathetic, and his problems keep getting bigger and bigger. It's a good one with a clever ending.
98LisaMorr
Just finished Lord of the Flies, and what a page-turner it was. Kids can be brutal!
99mstrust
For sure! I'm glad you liked it. I started The House in Paris but I believe I'll set it aside for now even though it seems good. For many years I've thought it was a sinister novel, but it seems I've been mistaken.
100Robertgreaves
COMPLETED The Midwich Cuckoos by John Wyndham
My review:
The village of Midwich mysteriously falls asleep for a day and a night - every living thing. A couple of months later all the women of childbearing age in the village find they are pregnant even if they are still virgins. But what are they going to give birth to?
Not quite as scary as when I read it as a young teenager, but still very atmospheric.
My review:
The village of Midwich mysteriously falls asleep for a day and a night - every living thing. A couple of months later all the women of childbearing age in the village find they are pregnant even if they are still virgins. But what are they going to give birth to?
Not quite as scary as when I read it as a young teenager, but still very atmospheric.
101mstrust
I've been wanting to read that for a couple of years now. I'm halfway through Go, Mutants! by Larry Doyle. It's an alternative universe in the early 60's, set in a Manhattan high school. J!M the teenage alien knows he isn't one of the cool kids, and the skin of his giant brain has just molted and left him greasier than ever, but he is desperately in love with the human girl Marie.
102SomeGuyInVirginia
Ok, after six months of sitting in a box in the hallway I've put my tv up. I mean the tv has been on a box in the hallway. My box is in the walk in closet like a normal person. The total PAIN was building the three tier console I swear to God I will never buy box furniture again. Must have taken 5 hours.
But! Coraline! As soon as I look up my Netflix password.
But! Coraline! As soon as I look up my Netflix password.
103mstrust
I was wondering where you've been, especially since you read so many horrifying books. Let us know your opinion of Coraline when you can.
104SomeGuyInVirginia
A guy set himself on fire outside of the White House around noon and I know why. I work one block up and over and traffic was so bad this morning it took some people a hour to get that far. By the time I got into the office at 9:45am I wanted to set someone on fire, too.
I wonder if someone is going to pick up Santa Clarita Diet?
I wonder if someone is going to pick up Santa Clarita Diet?
105mstrust
I sure hope so, that show is too good to let it just end. And since shows seem to be changing networks now, there's hope. The cast wants to continue, the sets are built...someone make an offer.
106mstrust

An alternate universe of "Rebel Without A Cause', with J!M being an unhappy mutant teen who is bullied at school but loves human Marie. His best friend is Johnny, who is half radioactive ape. There's quite of bit of gore with severed body parts and spontaneous combustion.
107whitewavedarling
Finished Shadows a week or so ago, having completely forgotten how incredibly dark it was--I can't believe I read it when I was in middle school! It fit the category perfectly--children caught in a horror novel and, separately, horrific children--and was wonderfully dark. Full review written for those interested.
108Tess_W
I first read Coraline by Neil Gaiman and then watched the movie on Netflix. Meh to the book. Meh+ to the movie--it had great animations!
109Kristelh
I read Witches, Salem 1692. It was good, but I've read so many books on this both fiction and non fiction. I do appreciate that the author did try to take a different approach.

