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Trumpian 'New Lows' 2

This is a continuation of the topic Trumpian 'New Lows'.

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1margd
Edited: Aug 24, 2019, 5:56am Top

DOW closed 623.34 / 2.37% lower Friday, Aug 23.

Brian P. McKeon @bpmckeon64 | 3:28 PM · Aug 23, 2019
Huh. Last week, POTUS told a rally crowd they had to vote for him b/c he'd protect their 401(k).
Today, as those accounts are dropping with a market swoon that he caused*, he jokes about it.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump | 3:01 PM · Aug 23, 2019
The Dow is down 573 points perhaps on the news that Representative Seth Moulton,
whoever that may be, has dropped out of the 2020 Presidential Race!

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* Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump | 10:59 AM · Aug 23, 2019

...Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA...

Also, I am ordering all carriers, including Fed Ex, Amazon, UPS and the Post Office, to SEARCH FOR & REFUSE...all deliveries of Fentanyl from China (or anywhere else!)...

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* Dow drops over 600 points after Trump says U.S. companies must look for ‘alternative to China’
Stocks plunge as Trump says he’s “ordering” U.S. manufacturers to leave China.
Aug 23, 2019

DJIA -2.37 SPX -2.59

Trump blasts Powell and Xi as ‘enemies’ of U.S. as Fed fight, trade war heat up
Powell says Fed ‘carefully watching developments’ and ‘will act as appropriate’
Treasury yield curve inverts again after China tariff pledge, Powell speech, and Trump trade tweets
U.S. dollar sinks as Trump tweets stoke intervention fears

https://www.marketwatch.com/

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Nick Jack Pappas @Pappiness | 5:09 PM · Aug 23, 2019
The DOW was up 200 before Trump's tweet thread.

It finished at -614.

He swung the Dow Jones 800+ points.

This country elected a man who lost $1 billion dollars in 10 years. He just lost our retirement accounts billions of dollars in 10 minutes.

2johnthefireman
Aug 24, 2019, 12:24am Top

'I hereby order': Trump mocked for highly formal, meaningless decree (Guardian)

“Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA.”

The proclamation, which the president does not have the power to enforce, might have been expected to unleash a wave of panic and terror among America’s mostly capitalist citizenry – such state-mandated orders are, after all, the stuff of planned-economy communist countries.

But instead, America’s Twitter-sphere resorted mainly to mocking Trump and his rhetorical flourishes. Soon “I hereby order” was taking on a life of its own: from top politicians down to the man-in-the-street Twitter inhabitant...

3margd
Edited: Aug 24, 2019, 6:06am Top

Trump adds more tariffs after markets close with a 623 drop...are you paying attention older, wealthier Trump-voters?
Insider trading ensued at the White House, I bet. :(

Trump Hikes China Tariffs After Trade War Threat Slams Dow Jones
JED GRAHAM | 8/23/2019

...Barely an hour after the Dow closed down 623 points, Trump tweeted that the U.S. will hike 25% tariffs to 30% on $250 billion in Chinese goods. New tariffs of 10% set to take effect on the remaining $300 billion in imports as early as Sept. 1, will instead rise to 15%. The move caps the worst day of the China trade war and appears to shatter any sliver of hope for a trade deal...

https://www.investors.com/news/economy/trump-vows-to-escalate-china-trade-war-af...

4DugsBooks
Edited: Aug 24, 2019, 6:54pm Top

The underlying stink in the Trump tweets are that they seem designed to manipulate the market, I am a CNBC junkie and was watching the market last week when he bashed Wall Street.

The market had just recovered from the Chinese tit for tat trade announcement and was nearing the high of the week again. Trumps tweet took the market down in only a minute or so to about a one month low for all the China related stocks and the rest of the market following. Now if you had a pre tweet “heads up” ,tip on the Trump tweet content your “short position “ in the market zooms to gold, increases in value tremendously.

This is not an isolated incident, many of his tweets come at extremely opportune times for anyone with advance knowledge. I have no doubt that China plays the market with foreknowledge of their news release timing also, albeit in a convoluted manner.

I hope Wall Street is keeping good records of the transactions, especially those derived from overseas where Trump confidants no doubt stash their money. I would celebrate some big busts of such illegal activities even years from now if I am still around.

I am far from wealthy but people’s savings are being demolished by an ego tripping criminal whose only concern is the media notoriety he derives from his antics. Numerous global economic experts say all of the trade threats & dissolution of trade agreements will be paid for by all including and especially the USA people. I am now in favor of impeachment ASAP.

5margd
Aug 25, 2019, 7:40pm Top

Scoop: Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S.
Jonathan Swan, Margaret Talev | 48 mins ago (8/25/2019)

President Trump has suggested multiple times to senior Homeland Security and national security officials that they explore using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes from hitting the United States, according to sources who have heard the president's private remarks and been briefed on a National Security Council memorandum that recorded those comments...

https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9...

6mamzel
Aug 26, 2019, 5:06pm Top

Several times during this morning's press conference he referred to a "red line in the sand". Mixed metaphor much?

7margd
Edited: Aug 30, 2019, 8:56am Top

And they keep on coming...cruelty upon cruelty. From life-threatening to life-changing and humiliating, heartless Trumpians miss no opportunity to be cruel:

Sick Migrants Undergoing Lifesaving Care Can Now Be Deported
Miriam Jordan and Caitlin Dickerson | Aug. 29, 2019

...Without any public announcement, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services eliminated a “deferred action” program this month that had allowed immigrants like Ms. Bueso to avoid deportation while they or their relatives were undergoing lifesaving medical treatment. The agency said that it received 1,000 deferred-action applications related to medical issues each year.

The policy change is the latest in a series of moves by the Trump administration to revoke or modify procedures that have allowed certain immigrants to remain in the United States on humanitarian grounds. In addition to those with serious medical conditions, they included crime victims who have helped law enforcement with investigations and caretakers of sick children or relatives...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/29/us/immigrant-medical-treatment-deferred-actio...
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Some kids with American parents will fall through the cracks under this new system. Legislation now prevents it but there were international adoptees whose American parents failed to file paperwork to secure their kids' US citizenship. Kids who broke the law--DUI in some states--were DEPORTED to birth countries where they knew no one and didn't speak the language:

#TrumpHatesMilitaryFamilies Trends as Administration to Strip Automatic Citizenship Right From Some Children of Overseas Troops
Chantal Da Silva | 8/29/19

...as of October 29, certain parents serving overseas in the U.S. armed forces and with other branches of the federal government will be required to formally apply for U.S. citizenship on their children's behalf before their kids turn 18...

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-military-families-children-overseas-troops-automa...
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Never mind putting these girls at risk of Toxic shock Syndrome, ADULT women would be humiliated by soiled clothing, never mind girls who are just coming to terms with their biology...

Trump administration leaves menstruating migrant girls ‘bleeding through’ underwear at detention centres, lawsuit claims
Andrew Buncombe | 8/29/2019

Migrant girls being held by the Trump administration are being given only very limited access to items as basic as sanitary pads and tampons, according to a lawsuit that claims to put fresh light on the “appalling” conditions being endured by youngsters.

...menstruating youngsters were permitted only one tampon, or sanitary pad, a day. After that, at least one girl “had no choice but to continue to wear her soiled underwear” and clothes....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-immigration-migrant-chil...

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Resource List: Ways to Help Refugees
(51) Charities and Other Resources
Mission Refugee | Jun 23

https://medium.com/missionrefugee/ways-to-help-refugees-charities-and-other-reso...

8alco261
Edited: Aug 30, 2019, 8:36am Top

>6 mamzel: In light of what Filthy Fingers and his minions are doing it sounds more like a cryptic description of their actions - just look at all the misery and potential for real gore summarized in >7 margd: along with other actions that have been cited over the months in >7 margd: 's posts - I think "a red line drawn in the sand" - drawn with other peoples blood - is an excellent summary of their efforts.

9mamzel
Sep 1, 2019, 1:07pm Top

>8 alco261: You know, and I know, that Donald is not able to create such a cogent metaphor without crowing about how smart he is. The way he kept repeating it reminded me of how he kept saying "oranges" while meaning "origins". It's like he keeps saying it out loud knowing it's not correct and hoping the self-correct feature would fix it for him. I take it as a sign of his slipping ability to form a sentence accurately stating his thoughts.

10margd
Sep 5, 2019, 10:47am Top

✔ tweeted secret satellite photo of Iran
✔ warned Alabama to prepare for impending Hurricane Dorian
✔ congratulated Poland on 80th anniversry of Nazi invasion

11margd
Edited: Sep 7, 2019, 12:41pm Top

A Heavily Pregnant Migrant Crossed the U.S. Border Experiencing Contractions. American Doctors Stopped Her Labor, Then Sent Her Back to Mexico
Norman Merchant / AP 8:12 PM EDT

(MATAMOROS, Mexico) — Eight-and-a-half-months pregnant and experiencing contractions, an El Salvadoran woman crossed the Rio Grande — only to be apprehended by Border Patrol. She was not allowed to stay.

Agents took her to the hospital, where doctors gave her medication to stop the contractions. And then, according to the woman and her lawyer, she was almost immediately sent back to Mexico. There, she joined the more than 38,000 people forced to wait across the border for immigration court hearings under a rapidly expanding Trump administration policy. And her plight highlights the health risks and perils presented by the “Remain in Mexico” program...

...The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has said people in “vulnerable populations” may be exempt from being sent to Mexico. But pregnant women are not necessarily considered “vulnerable” by CBP (Customs and Border Protection), a subsidiary of the department....

https://time.com/5671108/us-pregnant-migrants-labor-mexico/

12mamzel
Sep 8, 2019, 12:57pm Top

Tweeted about meeting between himself, Taliban, and Afghanistan at Camp David and then tweeted it was canceled after U.S. serviceman killed in Afghanistan.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/07/politics/trump-cancels-secret-meeting-taliban-afg...

He's still after that Peace Prize and will do anything to get it, even bringing representatives of the group who was responsible for one of our biggest tragedies on U.S. soil to the U.S. the week of the attack.

Same can be said of efforts to rejoin North and South Korea.

13margd
Edited: Sep 10, 2019, 2:55am Top

Brian Entin @BrianEntin (Miami 7News investigative reporter) | 7:44 PM · Sep 8, 2019
https://twitter.com/BrianEntin

Big problems on the ferry from Freeport (main city on Grand Bahama) to Florida — announcement just made that any Bahamian without a visa must now get off. This is not normal. Normally Bahamians can travel to USA with passport and a printout of their police record. This is a mess.

So they all lined up and waited for hours to board this ferry. (See my tweets from earlier) when we were about to leave, something changed.

Another announcement just made ordering any Bahamian without a US visa to disembark ferry — not allowed to evacuate. They were told before boarding it was ok with Bahamian passport and clean polce record. Something has now changed.

Ferry staff now going around checking passports. There are hundreds of Bahamians on here. People are in shock. Hundreds of people trying to evacuate just forced off the boat. I’m not videoing because I just got yelled at by crew.

This is what I’m learning from passengers: normally Bahamians can FLY to the USA with their passport and a clean police record. Bc of the hurricane, the rules were changed and they could also come to US under those conditions on ferries and ships. They’ve been doing that for days

That’s it. We’re leaving — all Bahamian evacuees without a visa taken off. The Bahamians who remain are in shock. No one understands why the rule was changed at the last minute. The parents and kids now stuck on the island.

Brian Entin | @BrianEntin | 10:50 PM · Sep 8, 2019:
A little more from crew on the ferry. They say they were told it was ok to accept Bahamian evacuees with passport and copy of police record. They boarded boat. Then when they sent manifest to US Customs and Border Patrol — they were told those without visas would not be accepted.

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Alternative NOAA @altNOAA | 4:24 AM · Sep 9, 2019

Wrong on many levels and a disgrace. The US CBP needs to allow Bahamians into country.
Americans can travel to their county with just a drivers license, no passport needed.
These are homeless storm victims. Shelter them. Feed them. Lift them up! Please RT #Dorian #TheBahamas

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Yeah, right.

Brian Entin @BrianEntin | 3:50 AM · Sep 9, 2019:

Just interviewed CBPFlorida when we got off ferry in FL. They say they would have accepted and processed the Bahamians, and blame the ferry company Balearia. CBP says they tried to coordinate with Balearia but company "made a business decision" to take the evacuees off the boat.

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Too bad if Cat 5 hurricance blew and washed away all you own, including papers...

Trump claims Bahamians need 'totally proper documentation' to enter US
Maegan Vazquez | September 9, 2019

Earlier Monday, Trump's acting Customs and Border Protection head Mark Morgan said that the US is still vetting and processing Bahamians attempting to come into the US who lack documentation.

"If your life is in jeopardy and you're in the Bahamas and you want to get to the United States, you're going to be allowed to come to the United States, whether you have travel documents or not," he told reporters during a press briefing at the White House.

...Morgan said Monday that the US is expediting the processing for Bahamians to enter the US as they seek refuge.

"But keep in mind, there are still people that are inadmissible to this country," Morgan said.

Those individuals, he said, would be processed as they normally would under other conditions, which could include relocation to Immigrations and Customs Enforcement custody.

...The acting CBP chief said he believes it would be "appropriate" to extend Temporary Protected Status to Bahamians affected by Hurricane Dorian and suggested he would likely speak to Trump about it at some point, although he said he hasn't yet.

"There hasn't been any formal grant of TPS," he said. "I think that would be appropriate, to have that circumstance."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/donald-trump-bahamas-hurricane-dorian-re...

14margd
Sep 10, 2019, 3:28pm Top

DOJ's Immigration Court

Judge Promoted by Trump Administration Threatened a 2-Year-Old With an Attack Dog
Noah Lanard | 9/10/2019

...“Want me to go get the dog?” the judge yelled at a Guatemalan boy. “Do you want him to bite you?”...

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/09/judge-promoted-by-trump-administrat...

15johnthefireman
Sep 13, 2019, 1:16am Top

Man Trump called 'my African American' says president has 'white superiority complex' (Guardian)

Gregory Cheadle – a black man who Donald Trump referred to as “my African American” during a rally – has announced he is leaving the Republican party, citing the president’s “white superiority complex”.

US begins severe new restrictions on asylum seekers at Mexico border – as it happened
Read more
The real estate broker and one-time Republican candidate for Congress, who attracted national attention in 2016 after Trump’s comments at a rally in Redding, California, now plans to run as an independent in the House of Representatives next year.

Cheadle, 62, told a radio program the tipping point came when Republicans came to Trump’s defence after he tweeted that four Democratic congresswoman of colour should leave the US and when he attacked Elijah Cummings’ home town of Baltimore.

Although Cheadle refused to describe the president as racist, he said Trump has a “white superiority complex”...

“President Trump is a rich guy who is mired in white privilege to the extreme. Republicans are too sheepish to call him out on anything and they are afraid of losing their positions and losing any power themselves.”

He accused the Republican party of following a “pro-white” agenda and using black people as “political pawns”...

16margd
Sep 17, 2019, 8:02am Top

Trump Cringingly Courts Latino Vote: “Who Do You Like More, the Country or the Hispanics?”
Elliot Hannon | Sept 17, 2019

...At one point, Trump called out Steve Cortes, who serves as a member of Trump’s Hispanic Advisory Council, from the podium. “He happens to be Hispanic, but I’ve never quite figured it out, because he looks more like a WASP than I do,” Trump said. “But I tell you what, there is nobody that loves his country more or is Hispanic more than Steve Cortes.” Oof, Trump talks about race like a tanked grandpa at Thanksgiving. “Nobody loves the Hispanics more. Who do you like more, the country or the Hispanics?” Trump continued. “He says the country. I don’t know. I may have to go for the Hispanics, to be honest with you. We’ve got a lot of Hispanics. We love our Hispanics. Get out and vote.”

The love is palpable.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/trump-latino-hispanic-vote-new-mexic...

17margd
Sep 18, 2019, 4:09am Top

Newest focus, the homeless: please base (veterans, police), attack CA and Dems, get the bums away from Trump properties, $$ for private prison types?

Trump reveals a motivation for his anti-homelessness push: Foreign real estate tenants
Philip Bump | September 17, 2019

...Trump’s administration has quietly been planning a crackdown on homeless camps in California, including visiting unused government facilities to determine if they could serve as housing.

An administration official wanted to assure The Post that things hadn’t progressed too far, telling Jeff Stein, Josh Dawsey and Tracy Jan that “we’re not rounding people up or anything yet.” (YET!)

...(Trump) “We can’t let Los Angeles, San Francisco and numerous other cities destroy themselves by allowing what’s happening,” Trump said, according to a report from the White House news pool. “And I’m speaking to tenants — in some cases foreign people, foreign tenants — but they have where they’re tenants in buildings throughout various cities in California, and other places … where they want to leave the country. They can’t believe what’s happening.”

...“We have people living in our … best highways, our best streets, our best entrances to buildings and pay tremendous taxes, where people in those buildings pay tremendous taxes, where they went to those locations because of the prestige,” he said. “In many cases, they came from other countries, and they moved to Los Angeles or they moved to San Francisco because of the prestige of the city, and all of a sudden they have tents. Hundreds and hundreds of tents and people living at the entrance to their office building. And they want to leave.

“And the people of San Francisco are fed up, and the people of Los Angeles are fed up,” he added. “And we’re looking at it, and we’ll be doing something about it.”

...July, Fox News’s Tucker Carlson raised the issue of homelessness and urban decay in an interview with Trump, (who) inexplicably declared it was “a phenomena that started two years ago” and blamed Democratic leaders.

His answer on Tuesday makes a lot more sense. The focus of his concern, as presented to reporters on Air Force One, wasn’t Americans or veterans, but foreigners who rent or buy high-end real estate, people who get frustrated at seeing those experiencing homelessness at the entrance to their office buildings. It’s the sort of complaint that might resonate with someone who owns real estate in major U.S. cities that is used for housing or office space.

Someone, in other words, like Donald Trump, whose Trump Organization owns 30 percent of what used to be known as the Bank of America tower in San Francisco, an office building in that city. The Trump Organization also owns properties in Los Angeles and, of course, New York City. Trump has been in the business of appealing to real estate investors for a lot longer than he’s been in the business of running the United States, so it’s not really a surprise he would view the homelessness problem through the lens of someone who needs to get people to see Trump Tower as the pinnacle of refinement.

Trump is well aware of how people experiencing homelessness can make a property less appealing. As CNN reported during the campaign, Trump once proposed housing people who are homeless in one of his buildings — in an apparent effort to oust rent-controlled tenants from the property.

It’s remarkable, though, that Trump went as far as to frame this as a concern for foreign tenants. Foreign investors are central to much of the high-end real estate market, prompting Donald Trump Jr. in 2008 to remark that “in terms of high-end product influx into the U.S., Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.” But even if that is a central concern of Trump’s in this case, it seems odd to mention it explicitly. To the rally crowd, concern for the veterans. To reporters, it’s apparently about tax bases and appealing to the foreign market.

These, it seems, are the sorts of immigrants that Trump is happy to welcome, the sorts who want to ensure the properties they buy are prestigious. If we need to move those experiencing homelessness to an old FAA building, so be it.

First things first.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/17/trump-reveals-motivation-his-...

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Blaming shelters and street sleeping, Donald Trump blasts California for homeless crisis
Chris Woodyard | Sept. 17, 2019

Taking direct aim at California, a new report from President Donald Trump's administration (Council of Economic Advisers) says homelessness could be dramatically reduced by slashing restrictions on housing construction and being less tolerant of people sleeping on the streets.

...In the report, "The State of Homelessness in America," even shelters get some of the blame for increasing the number of people who are homeless. The argument: Some people would be able to find their own housing if they were turned away from shelters.

...Homelessness is a national problem, the Trump administration report states, blaming "two decades of misguided and faulty policies" that have left more than 500,000 homeless on a single night in the U.S. About 65% find their way into shelters but the rest live in cars, parks or elsewhere out in the open.

The problem is concentrated on the West Coast and Northeast. About 47% of all unsheltered people in the nation are in California, the report states.

...The key issue behind homelessness, according to the report: Housing costs are too high because of overly restrictive zoning, rent control, energy and water mandates, historic preservation requirements and other measures that hold down new construction.

...If such constrictions could be relieved, the ranks of the homeless could fall precipitously, the report predicts. Just by deregulating housing markets in 11 metro areas, overall homelessness would fall 13%, the report claims. In San Francisco, it would plummet 54% and in Los Angeles, 40% – both cities with sky-high rents.

Part of the problem involves policies that allow people to sleep on the streets, the Trump administration says. The report notes some warm-weather cities, like Orlando and Las Vegas, have relatively low rates of unsheltered homeless people. "It is clear that warm climates enable, but do not guarantee, high rates of unsheltered homelessness," it states.

The report says while homelessness should not be treated as a crime, how police approach "street activities" is a factor in how many people are homeless in a city.

Homeless advocates weren't impressed by the report...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/17/donald-trump-california-lo...

18margd
Edited: Oct 16, 2019, 8:33am Top

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump | 7:14 AM · Oct 14, 2019

....Kurds may be releasing some (ISIS members) to get us involved...

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Lara Seligman @laraseligman | 10:46 AM · Oct 14, 2019

Senior U.S. administration official says there's no evidence the Kurds released ISIS prisoners.

"That has enraged our forces in Syria," the official says. "Incredibly reckless and dishonest thing to say."

SDC confirms: "We didn't release any prisoners and will never do that."

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Surprise, surprise--not! Trump wades into info war with Turkish, not America line.

Turkish-Backed Forces Are Freeing Islamic State Prisoners
Lara Seligman | October 14, 2019

...The (Free Syrian Army) FSA, also known as the Turkey-supported opposition (TSO), began in 2011 as a loose rebel group composed mainly of Syrian army defectors who were dedicated to bringing down the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. In 2013, FSA fighters reportedly began defecting to the Nusra Front, an Islamist organization with ties to al Qaeda that was also fighting Assad. At the time, news reports quoted anonymous senior military officials saying the Pentagon estimated that extreme Islamist groups constituted more than half of the FSA.

...During Turkey’s 2018 assault on Afrin, in northwestern Syria, Turkish-backed FSA proxies allegedly committed war crimes, including mutilating the bodies of Kurdish fighters and destroying places of worship.

Now the group appears to be employing similar tactics in northeastern Syria. In addition to killing unarmed civilians, as Turkey captures territory from the SDF, the TSO is deliberately releasing Islamic State detainees previously held by the Kurdish fighters, U.S. officials say.

The United States has evidence that the prisons the SDF said they could no longer guard because they were seized by Turkish-backed forces are the same ones where the prisoners are being released, the senior U.S. administration official said. This means the Turkish proxy forces released the prisoners, an SDC official confirmed.

...Trump waded into the information war on Monday, tweeting that the “Kurds may be releasing some Islamic State prisoners to get us involved”—an accusation that U.S. officials said is baseless.

“That has enraged our forces in Syria,” the senior U.S. administration official said. “Kurds are still defending our bases. Incredibly reckless and dishonest thing to say.”

Another U.S. official said the SDF has not abandoned the prisons—in fact, the group has moved some detainees to facilities further south.

“Turkey/TSO are in a very active information war,” the official said.

Northeastern Syria, which had maintained a fragile peace under the leadership of the SDF and its political arm, the Syrian Democratic Council, has fallen into chaos since Trump appeared to give Turkey the green light to move in on Oct. 6. Five days into the incursion, more than 800 suspected Islamic State detainees escaped the Ain Issa camp in northern Syria, which holds Islamic State prisoners, internally displaced persons, and families of Islamic State fighters.

There are at least 10,000 detained Islamic State fighters in several prisons across northeastern Syria, including roughly 2,000 foreign fighters. In addition, there are more than 100,000 Islamic State family members and other displaced persons in camps in the region, including 70,000 in al-Hol refugee camp...

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/14/turkish-backed-forces-freeing-islamic-state...

192wonderY
Oct 16, 2019, 9:32am Top

What the hell!?

Grieving parents "ambushed" by Trump, who had teen's killer waiting at White House

Trump had prepared for Anne Sacoolas, the diplomat's wife, to enter the room, in front of a gaggle of reporters, during his meeting with the parents of slain Harry Dunn.

20johnthefireman
Oct 16, 2019, 9:37am Top

>19 2wonderY:

And it's to their credit that they turned him down. Real life is not a reality TV show.

212wonderY
Oct 16, 2019, 9:52am Top

Oddly, the parents came away from the meeting still hoping that Trump will consider their request that Sacoolas return to Britain for the inquest. He's smooth.

22margd
Oct 16, 2019, 10:12am Top

In 1980s a diplomat was involved in collision in DC. All of us with diplomatic immunity, regardless how minor, heard from State Dept. trying to ascertain whether we had auto insurance. (I did, of course, but State Dept. didn't ask for proof.) I think there should be limits on diplomatic immunity. Ignoring parking tickets is one thing, but diplomatic immunity should not extend to traffic safety infractions.

23jjwilson61
Oct 16, 2019, 11:38am Top

>22 margd: If the reason for diplomatic immunity is to prevent a diplomat from being prosecuted for political reasons on trumped up charges then it seems like it would be more important the more serious the charge.

24margd
Oct 17, 2019, 1:02am Top

True. I wasn't thinking beyond Britain, Canada, US. No doubt there are places that would trump up charges, but hopefully not these three.

25margd
Edited: Oct 18, 2019, 9:41am Top

President Bone Spurs on war:

MSNBC @MSNBC | 0:17 PM · Oct 17, 2019

WATCH: President Trump on Turkey attacking the Kurds:
"Sometimes you have to let them fight, like two kids in a lot. You have to let them fight, and then you pull them apart!"

From NBC News (news clip: https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1185016900402720769

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Brett McGurk @brett_mcgurk | 10:45 PM · Oct 17, 2019:

This is an obscene and ignorant statement.
200k innocent people displaced.
Hundreds dead.
Credible reports of war crimes.
ISIS prisoners escaping.
US evacuating and bombing its own positions or handing them to Russia.
Two kids in a lot?

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Won't be surprised if red paint gets dumped in marble-panelled foyers and elevators of someone's GD buildings--YOU Clean it out, bud:

Trump accused of using ‘language of ethnic cleansing’ to describe Turkey’s Syria offensive
Jon Sharman | 10/18.\/2019

‘So you have a 22-mile strip, that for many, many years, Turkey, in all fairness, they’ve had a legitimate problem with it ... they had to have it cleaned out,’
says president

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-syria-war-cl...


26DugsBooks
Oct 18, 2019, 11:41am Top

>4 DugsBooks: "I hope Wall Street is keeping good records of the transactions, especially those derived from overseas where Trump confidants no doubt stash their money. I would celebrate some big busts of such illegal activities even years from now if I am still around."

Well, it looks like someone is keeping track - look at following article gives specific trades of larger amounts than I imagined.

"Hanky-panky?’ Traders pocket ‘stunning’ profits after Trump’s comments on trade talks goose the stock market

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/hanky-panky-traders-pocket-stunning-profits-af...

27margd
Edited: Oct 24, 2019, 7:23am Top

At least no one died in this one...

David Fahrenthold @Fahrenthold | 12:04 PM · Oct 23, 2019:

When @realdonaldtrump made a side trip to his Irish golf club this summer,
dozens of Irish cops were sent to protect him.
Then Trump’s company charged the cops more than $100K for food and coffee.

Here’s the bill:
Image ( https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/1187037207015628801/photo/2 )

28margd
Oct 25, 2019, 8:57am Top

>27 margd: contd. Grifter-in-Chief--see the map!

The Trump campaign has over $1 million in outstanding bills from American cities
Philip Bump | Oct. 24, 2019

...The Trump campaign’s indifference to municipal bills became a significant issue earlier this month when the city of Minneapolis attempted to get paid in advance for a rally Trump was planning to hold in the city. The president and his campaign publicly berated Minneapolis’s mayor. But even then it was easy to see why a city would want Trump’s team to pay in advance.

As the Minneapolis rally loomed, CNN went back to a number of cities that had been identified in June by the Center for Public Integrity as places with outstanding bills in to the Trump campaign. CNN found that there was at least $841,000 still outstanding. The total, though, is more than that: Dave Levinthal, who reported the initial tallies for the Center for Public Integrity, confirmed in an email to The Washington Post on Thursday that he had checked back with all the cities he had identified in July and that none had been paid as of his most recent outreach.

Adding in the bill from Albuquerque, that brings the total outstanding bill to more than $1 million — $1,052,395.78, to be precise. El Paso, which hasn’t been paid for costs from a February rally, added a late fee of about $99,000 earlier this year, bringing the total to $1,151,183.36. Add in the $530,000 that Minneapolis was originally seeking and the total nears $1.7 million...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/24/trump-campaign-has-over-milli...

29margd
Oct 28, 2019, 7:47am Top

Praising Himself for ISIS Raid, Trump Undermines His Own Victory
Kevin Fitzpatrick | October 27, 2019

A rambling presser announcing the demise of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi saw Trump bowing to Russia, taking shots at Obama and generally squandering any bipartisan goodwill.

The fastest way to burn political capital after a military victory, it seems, is to have Donald Trump announce it. The president spent Sunday morning gleefully recounting the gory details of a U.S. Special Forces raid in Syria that claimed the life of Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi—indulging many of his own worst impulses in the process.

...“Something very big has just happened!”...tweet...may have been premature, placing Trump’s eagerness for positive news coverage over conclusive identification of Baghdadi’s body...

Trump’s revelry in the gruesome depiction of the ISIS leader’s end was poorly received by members of the press, as was his decision to first thank Russia, then Turkey, Syria and Iraq, for their cooperation in the operation, ahead of U.S. intelligence...

...he made a point of boasting that the death of Baghdadi was more significant than the 2011 raid that killed 9/11 architect Osama bin Laden, as overseen by former president Barack Obama....

Others took offense at Trump’s seemingly first-person account of the raid, which included vivid descriptions...

...snubbed Democratic lawmakers by declining to inform speaker Nancy Pelosi or House Intelligence chair Adam Schiff of the raid—allegedly for fear of “leaks.”

...loyal toadies like senator Lindsey Graham sent out to sing his praises...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/trump-baghdadi-isis-dead-press-conferenc...
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Trump’s Syria Troop Withdrawal Complicated Plans for al-Baghdadi Raid
Eric Schmitt, Helene Cooper and Julian E. Barnes | Oct. 27, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump knew the Central Intelligence Agency and Special Operations commandos were zeroing in on the location for Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Islamic State leader, when he ordered American troops to withdraw from northern Syria earlier this month, intelligence, military and counterterrorism officials said on Sunday.

For months, intelligence officials had kept Mr. Trump apprised of what he had set as a top priority, the hunt for Mr. al-Baghdadi, the world’s most wanted terrorist.

But Mr. Trump’s abrupt withdrawal order three weeks ago disrupted the meticulous planning underway and forced Pentagon officials to speed up the plan for the risky night raid before their ability to control troops, spies and reconnaissance aircraft disappeared with the pullout, the officials said.

Mr. al-Baghdadi’s death in the raid on Saturday, they said, occurred largely in spite of, and not because of, Mr. Trump’s actions...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/27/us/politics/baghdadi-isis-leader-trump.html

30lriley
Oct 28, 2019, 9:04am Top

Ever since we went into the region with our military the politicians making the decisions have been fighting back against the idea that it was all about the oil. Well Trump pulls the rug out from all of that---makes it clear that for him that's what it's about.

His big windy speechifying about al-Baghdadi's death was dumb and despicable. Military watchers were not happy about his descriptions of the operation for leaking information on the raid that would have been better off left unsaid if only for the safety of those going on future operations. As for how Baghdadi died---one should keep in mind the chaotic nature of warfare. Quite often battles are over very quickly....but if the roof over your head is collapsing it's very natural to move towards an area where it's not collapsing. This is why Baghdadi heads into the tunnel--whether he was whimpering, crying or screaming one shouldn't make too much of that either--wounded individuals often do those things and sometimes don't even realize they're doing it. All that is natural to people suffering body trauma. Trump describes that like a 14 year old watching a movie.

He also uses the event in his usual self glorifying way. The fact is he found a way to draft dodge during the Vietnam era and not pay any personal price. That's another one of those things that hang over his head. He will always have to do his John Wayne tough guy act to cover up for the fact that when push came to shove he made sure to keep himself out of the real action.

31johnthefireman
Oct 28, 2019, 10:10am Top

American faith groups agree: Trump should act more presidential (New Catholic Reporter)

Three-quarters of Americans (73%) say they wish "Trump’s speech and behavior were more consistent with past presidents," according to a new report from the Public Religion Research Institute.

Faith groups agree, including a majority of black Protestants (81%), Hispanic Protestants (74%), white mainline Protestants (72%), Catholics (70%) and members of non-Christian faiths (69%). Americans with no religious affiliation (85%) also agree, as do a majority (albeit a smaller majority) of white evangelical Protestants (52%), who remain among Trump’s most ardent supporters.

Overall, faith groups and Americans in general "aren’t thrilled with Trump’s behavior," said Natalie Jackson, director of research for the Public Religon Research Institute. "Even a lot of Republicans would prefer that he acted more like past presidents."

Faith groups also share a positive view of immigrants, said Jackson, and a majority of people in major faith groups oppose immigrant family separation at the border...

Two-thirds of white evangelicals (67%) say the country is going in the right direction. They are the only faith group to take that view, according to the Public Religion Research Institute. Less than half of white mainline Protestants (44%), Catholics (37%), Hispanic Protestants (33%), non-Christian faiths (26%), the unaffiliated (22%) or black Protestants (18%) agree...

"Majorities of all other major religious groups agree that Trump has damaged the dignity of the presidency"...

32margd
Oct 28, 2019, 10:17am Top

>30 lriley: Baghdadi whimpering, crying or screaming--not that it matters, but why would we start believing Trump now?
If a lie, it's a useful one if it discourage future recruitment?

33proximity1
Edited: Oct 28, 2019, 2:38pm Top


>32 margd:

"—not that it matters, but why would we start believing Trump now?"

___________________________

One couldn't even make this shit up if one wanted to:

So, more evidence of the reasoning going on in the minds of Trump's opponents:

Why, that is, ever entertain the possibility that this man just might be telling the truth, that he (Trump) might not be lying. That's the implied question!

Indeed!? This is their question-- it asks, in other words, why Trump ought ever be given the benefit of a doubt or, in even worse other words--there really never is and never can be any "doubt": Trump must simply always be presumptively and preëmptorily disbelieved, dismissed as an incorrigible liar.

We might, I suppose, perhaps risk discounting. as false something the president of the United States says which is, well, not false. "not that it—that is, the unwarranted dismissal—matters"...

"since, I'm, like, 'what could go wrong' ?"!

DO you want to get a good look into how these people actually think? It's not hard to do. Read their own unguarded words. They're a clear window into what's going on in their minds.

Not, "When in doubt, never give Trump any credit for anything" but, rather, "There's no 'When in doubt' about it. Never give Trump any credit for anything. Always assume that everything which issues from his mouth is worthless."
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34RickHarsch
Oct 28, 2019, 2:03pm Top

>33 proximity1: Wow. looks like somehow hasn't ever hear the story of the boy who cried wolf! I think there must be other fairy tales out there that cover much the same ground. Not to mention the anecdotal quotidian life of most of us.

Think about our often feeble attempts at monogamy. How many times can we tell our girlfriends we fell asleep at the party?
or:
Sorry I'm late boss, but my uncle broke down.
Must have been something I ate (forgot to shave).
I only drink when I smoke...
Pay you back tomorrow, next year latest...
When I block someone I never peek...

-----------------------

On a more serious note, from the same gutter:

It is difficult to get into this without risking coming off as naive, but no matter how much reason we have to be cynical about our presidents, don't we want them to appear to be telling the truth most of the time? Don't we want them to speak in above average adult lingo? Don't we want them to speak respectfully, refer to others respectfully? (I'm mostly thinking 'Pocahontas' here--shouldn't such juvenile name-calling automatically disqualify someone from holding national office?...is the populace of the US really so anti-intellectual?)...

35margd
Oct 28, 2019, 7:27pm Top

Trump says al-Baghdadi died 'screaming and crying.' U.S. officials aren't sure how he knows that.
Dylan Stableford | October 28, 2019

While announcing the killing of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, President Trump described the terrorist’s death during the U.S. raid in unusually graphic detail — repeatedly claiming that al-Baghdadi died “whimpering, screaming and crying.” But a top U.S. official who watched the raid with Trump in the White House Situation Room said he’s not sure where the president got that information.

“I don’t know what the source of that was,” Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters at the Pentagon Monday.

Trump announced al-Baghdadi’s death in a televised statement from the White House on Sunday morning, a day after U.S. forces carried out the operation in Syria.

“He died like a dog, he died like a coward,” Trump said. “He died after running into a dead-end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way.

Trump told reporters that he watched the raid from the Situation Room as it was carried out in real time with Milley, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Vice President Mike Pence, among others. The White House later released an official photo of the president and the top defense officials taken in the Situation Room.

...According to the New York Times, the Situation Room had live overhead surveillance footage of the operation. But the feeds did not have audio, nor did they show what was happening in the underground tunnel where al-Baghdadi was killed.

Appearing on ABC’s “This Week,” Esper said he wasn’t sure where Trump got “whimpering” from, either.

“I don’t have those details,” Esper said, adding that the president “probably had the opportunity to talk to the commanders on the ground.”...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-isis-leader-al-baghdadi-died-screaming-crying-1...

36lriley
Oct 28, 2019, 8:33pm Top

#32--I'm not sure that what Trump said about al-Bagdhadi is going to discourage--I think there's more chance it will do the opposite. As you point out Trump isn't very believable and my guess is ISIL and would be ISIL terrorists don't believe what he said about Bagdhadi either--will even be more incensed by his taunting arrogance. I suspect as well that they will try to avenge his death and not in Europe but here in the United States. No doubt we've broken up a lot of their plots but all they have to be is lucky one time.

37margd
Nov 3, 2019, 2:59pm Top

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump | 9:11 AM · Nov 3, 2019:

The Governor of California, @GavinNewsom, has done a terrible job of forest management. I told him from the first day we met that he must “clean” his forest floors regardless of what his bosses, the environmentalists, DEMAND of him. Must also do burns and cut fire stoppers.....

..Every year, as the fire’s rage & California burns, it is the same thing-and then he comes to the Federal Government for $$$ help. No more. Get your act together Governor. You don’t see close to the level of burn in other states...But our teams are working well together in.....

....putting these massive, and many, fires out. Great firefighters! Also, open up the ridiculously closed water lanes coming down from the North. Don’t pour it out into the Pacific Ocean. Should be done immediately. California desperately needs water, and you can have it now!

38RickHarsch
Nov 3, 2019, 9:54pm Top

>37 margd: The mighty Columbia took a wrong turn?

39jjwilson61
Nov 4, 2019, 9:26am Top

We should use all of our illegal immigrant maids to tidy up the forest.

40margd
Edited: Nov 5, 2019, 12:05pm Top

37 contd. (Trump threatens to cut aid to fire-ravaged California)

Bradley Whitford @BradleyWhitford | 10:00 PM · Nov 4, 2019:
Trump offer(ed) Putin aid to fight forest fires while threatening to withhold aid from California. Like a traitor.

Russia Says Trump Offered To Help Putin Fight Forest Fires In Siberia
Shannon Van Sant | August 1, 20191

The two leaders spoke by phone Wednesday. The Kremlin said Putin "regards the US President's offer as a sign that it is possible that full-scale bilateral relations will be restored in the future."

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/01/747196568/russia-says-trump-offered-to-help-putin...

41lriley
Edited: Nov 5, 2019, 12:18pm Top

#40--California's not one of those states that vote for him. Russia's not on his list of A-hole countries. Putin is his buddy in fact. He'll do practically anything he asks. What are friends for?

42margd
Nov 5, 2019, 2:29pm Top

"National American History and Founders Month"

KevinlyUncle @KevinlyFather | 10:56 PM · Nov 4, 2019:
For the last 29 years, November has been National Native American Heritage Month.

That's enough of that, says @realDonaldTrump
.
Image https://twitter.com/KevinlyFather/status/1191565035471917056

43margd
Nov 22, 2019, 11:27am Top

Trump says he might veto legislation that aims to protect human rights in Hong Kong because bill could impact China trade talks
The legislation easily passed Congress with a vetoproof majority
David J. Lynch | November 22, 2019

President Trump...Speaking on the “Fox & Friends” morning program...he was balancing competing priorities in the U.S.-China relationship.

“We have to stand with Hong Kong, but I’m also standing with President Xi Jinping, he’s a friend of mine. He’s an incredible guy, but we have to stand … I’d like to see them work it out, okay?” the president said. “I stand with freedom, I stand with all of the things that I want to do, but we are also in the process of making one of the largest trade deals in history. And if we could do that, it would be great.”

The House on Wednesday passed the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act by a vote of 417 to 1. The lone holdout was Rep. Thomas Massie, a Republican from Kentucky. That came one day after the Senate had approved the measure on a unanimous vote....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/11/22/trump-says-he-might-veto-legi...

44Molly3028
Edited: Nov 22, 2019, 1:51pm Top

Political life in the second decade of 21st Century America ~
Putin is Trump's puppeteer and Trump is the GOP's puppeteer.
America's Founders and all of our previous national leaders must
be shedding a waterfall of tears.

Many people care more about football teams, quarterbacks, the
spread and the Kardashians than they do about the future of
America.

45margd
Nov 26, 2019, 2:35am Top

Of course he does--they can campaign for Sen McConnell and Graham while they are at it... Aaargh!

GOOD ORDER AND DISCIPLINE
Trump Tells Allies He Wants Absolved War Criminals to Campaign for Him
Spencer Ackerman & Asawin Suebsaeng | Nov. 26, 2019

If Donald Trump gets his wish, he’ll soon take the three convicted or accused war criminals he spared from consequence on the road as special guests in his re-election campaign, according to two sources who have heard Trump discuss their potential roles for the 2020 effort.

Despite military and international backlash to Trump’s Nov. 15 clemency—fallout from which cost Navy Secretary Richard Spencer his job on Sunday—Trump believes he has rectified major injustices. Two people tell The Daily Beast they’ve heard Trump talk about how he’d like to have the now-cleared Clint Lorance, Matthew Golsteyn, or Edward Gallagher show up at his 2020 rallies, or even have a moment on stage at his renomination convention in Charlotte next year. Right-wing media have portrayed all three as martyrs brought down by “political correctness” within the military.

“He briefly discussed making it a big deal at the convention,” said one of these sources, who requested anonymity to talk about private conversations. “The president made a reference to the 2016 convention and where they brought on-stage heroes” like former Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell, who refused to execute detained civilians ahead of a devastating Taliban attack.

Former Army Lt. Lorance was sentenced to 19 years in prison in 2013 for murder after ordering his soldiers in 2010 to fire on three unarmed Afghan men riding a motorcycle, killing two of them. He walked out of military prison at Fort Leavenworth on Nov. 15. Next month, former Green Beret Maj. Golsteyn was supposed to stand trial for the murder of an unarmed Afghan man whom he told the CIA he killed in the belief the man was a Taliban bombmaker. Golsteyn, who allegedly burned the man’s corpse, pleaded not guilty to the murder; the Green Berets stripped Golsteyn of his Special Forces tab. Lorance and Golsteyn were both causes célèbres in certain military circles and among their right-wing supporters, as was Navy SEAL Chief Gallagher.

A military jury this summer acquitted Gallagher for the murder of a wounded teenage fighter for the so-called Islamic State. The case, which both featured Trump’s conspicuous intervention boosting Gallagher and serious prosecutorial misconduct, began, like Lorance’s, with Gallagher’s own platoon mates reporting his conduct. Against Gallagher’s denial, two SEALs testified seeing the senior SEAL chief stab the wounded teenager in the neck. Gallagher, along with lower-ranking SEALs, took a photo with the corpse and texted it with the caption “good story behind this, got him with my hunting knife.” But another SEAL reversed his testimony to say that he, not Gallagher, killed the wounded teenager by closing off an inserted breathing tube. Gallagher’s only conviction was for taking the photo and he was released for time served. Trump pardoned Lorance and Golsteyn and reversed Gallagher’s demotion in rank...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-tells-allies-he-wants-absolved-war-criminals...

46margd
Nov 26, 2019, 2:56am Top

The Hill @thehill:

President Trump signs the Woman's Suffrage Centennial Coin Act.

"I'm curious why wasn't it done a long time ago? And also, I guess the answer to that is because now I'm president, we get things done."

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1199181946166874112

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AltUSCustoms @alt_uscbp | 11/26/2019
The man doesn’t know what the word “centennial” means. 🤦‍♀️

47margd
Edited: Dec 2, 2019, 4:45am Top

Lisa Page, a career-employee (now resigned from DOJ) victim of Trump bullying, pushes back:

The former FBI lawyer and ongoing Trump target breaks two years of silence in this exclusive interview. And she has quite a lot to say.
Molly Jong-Fast | Dec. 01, 2019

...Lisa Page...is the former FBI lawyer whose text-message exchanges with agent Peter Strzok that belittled Donald Trump and expressed fear at his possible victory became international news. They were hijacked by Trump to fuel his “deep state” conspiracy.

...“Honestly, his demeaning fake orgasm was really the straw that broke the camel’s back,” she says. The president called out her name as he acted out an orgasm in front of thousands of people at a Minneapolis rally on Oct. 11, 2019...was the moment Page decided she had to speak up....

...also...On Dec. 9, the Justice Department inspector general report into Trump’s charges that the FBI spied on his 2016 campaign will come out. Leaked press accounts indicate that the report will exonerate Page of the allegation that she acted unprofessionally or showed bias against Trump.

(Also, having resigned from DOJ 18 months ago, she's now free to talk.)

...having been through the MAGA meat grinder has clearly worn her down

...As Politico noted... “The DOJ decision to release the text messages (without attribution) to the media and lawmakers before the IG report has drawn criticism from outside the department.” Ben Wittes wrote on the Lawfare blog, “Rosenstein here has, at a minimum, contributed to that circus—at the expense of his own employees. In throwing a career FBI agent (Sztrok) and career FBI lawyer (Page) to the wolves by authorizing the release to the public of their private text messages—without any finding that they had done anything wrong—he once again sent a message to his workforce that he is not the sort of man with whom you want to share your foxhole.”...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lisa-page-speaks-theres-no-fathomable-way-i-have-c...

48margd
Edited: Dec 2, 2019, 7:07am Top

Trump's spiritual advisor holds a Black Friday sale:
(And Jesus...said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.)

Paula White-Cain @Paula_White | 11:00 PM · Dec 1, 2019
The #BlackFriday sale ends in just 1 hour! Get 50% off these amazing bundles until midnight!

Shop Now: https://qoo.ly/334f9p

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49lriley
Dec 2, 2019, 8:33am Top

#48--Paula White thinks her flock--her SHEEP should give up their 'first fruits' to her church. This is part of her prosperity theology message. Like the Donald she is a fucking huckster and what 'first fruits' means is whatever you make in January of any given year should go to her.....and in giving to her according to her message you can count on the 'Lord' (that is 'God') to bless you with health, well being and wealth because the Lord God is as transactional as she and the Donald are. How much do you want to bet though that the Donald gives her all his earnings this January... or Don Jr. or Ivanka or even Jared....let alone even Rudy Giuliani. Maybe Mick Mulvaney would suck up that much but I'm thinking Trump gets her services his usual quid quo pro way.

Basically White is a scumbag.....and those who give her their first fruits a bunch of assclowns.

50johnthefireman
Dec 2, 2019, 8:42am Top

>49 lriley: the Lord God is as transactional

And without wishing to divert this into a religious discussion, the idea of a "transactional" God is at odds with the teaching of most global mainstream churches, which believe in God's free gift of grace and abundance. See a thread entitled The Gospel Economy in the Let's Talk Religion group.

51margd
Dec 2, 2019, 12:21pm Top

Indulgences got a little transactional for a while there--esp in s Europe--but that was 500 years ago!

52margd
Edited: Dec 3, 2019, 5:46am Top

Moved to norms thread:

Barr disputes key inspector general finding about FBI’s Russia investigation
Devlin Barrett and Karoun Demirjian | Dec. 2, 2019

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-doesnt-accept-key-inspecto...

53johnthefireman
Edited: Dec 4, 2019, 2:24am Top

In one moment of unscripted exasperation at NATO, Macron showed Trump what the whole world thinks of him now (The Independent)

“Let’s be serious.”

Trump turned to Macron and jokingly – once upon a time, the US president joking about Isis fighters would have been headline news, but Trump has been in the White House for almost three years and we’ve grown sadly accustomed to such highjinks – asked his French counterpart: "Would you like some nice Isis fighters? You can take everyone you want”...

Eyebrows raised, three deep creases on his forehead, Macron, in his trademark heavily accented English, urged the supposed leader of the free world: “Let’s be serious”...

54johnthefireman
Dec 5, 2019, 12:43am Top

What's the joke? Mugged off Trump sulks his way through Nato summit (Guardian)

US president ditches 70 years of Nato diplomacy and opts for some good old-fashioned name-calling... For the first time in living memory, the US president was lost for words – even the usual ones that mixed lies with unintelligibility...

Boris Johnson just wanted to avoid being seen in the same room as the US president during an election campaign. British voters might be happy to turn a blind eye to the prime minister’s liaisons with Jennifer Arcuri and others, but they took a dim view of his shameless brown-nosing to the Orange Sun Bed God...

they all might have got away with it had the Canadian prime minister, Justin Trudeau, not been caught on camera sharing a joke about Trump’s chaotic press conference, with Johnson, Macron and Princess Anne at a Buckingham Palace reception. That stung Trump. The president might have few social skills – when he and Boris get together it’s a meeting of true narcissistic mindlessness – but even he can tell when he’s getting badly mugged off...

But having sulked through much of the three-hour summit meeting, Trump couldn’t contain himself during a bilateral meeting with Angela Merkel. Trudeau was two-faced, he declared. Thereby undoing 70 years of Nato diplomacy in one sentence. The Canadian prime minister was just sore that he had been called out bigly – the bigliest even – for contributing less than the agreed 2% on the Nato budget.

Merkel wisely kept her head down. Now was probably not the best time to tell the president that all the other 28 Nato leaders laughed at him behind his back. This wasn’t about the 2%. It was about the president being a total joke. A dangerous joke admittedly, but a joke nonetheless...


55margd
Dec 5, 2019, 4:56am Top

Wonder if it's impeachable for Trump to level another tariff on Canada (official act) as revenge for personal slight by its PM? He uses bully pulpit all the time against people he considers enemies, but tariffs would be collective punishment...

56margd
Dec 8, 2019, 10:51am Top

Pardoned soldiers are Trump’s special guests at closed-door fundraiser in Aventura
Samantha J. Gross and David Smiley | December 07, 2019

President Donald Trump, speaking during a closed-door speech to Republican Party of Florida donors at the state party’s annual Statesman’s Dinner, was in “rare form” Saturday night.

...The 1,000 attendees were required to check their cell phones into individual locked cases before they entered the unmarked ballroom at the south end of the resort. Reporters were not allowed to attend.

...Trump transformed into a “total comedian”...

He also pulled an unusual move, bringing on stage Army 1st Lt. Clint Lorance and Maj. Mathew Golsteyn, who Trump pardoned last month for cases involving war crimes. Lorance was serving a 19-year sentence for ordering his soldiers shoot at unarmed men in Afghanistan, and Golsteyn was to stand trial for the 2010 extrajudicial killing of a suspected bomb maker.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article23...

57johnthefireman
Dec 12, 2019, 11:58pm Top

Trump's latest attack on Greta Thunberg was sexist, ableist – and perhaps jealous (Guardian)

As the first lady campaigns against bullying, her husband targets a 16-year-old

58LolaWalser
Dec 13, 2019, 1:27am Top

>57 johnthefireman:

It's an incomparable tribute to Greta, without precedent in history. One skinny little girl has the POTUS wallowing in his own shit in front of the entire world.

59johnthefireman
Dec 14, 2019, 11:02pm Top

Why is the president of the United States cyberbullying a 16-year-old girl? (Guardian)

What it says to girls is: no matter what you do, no matter how much you achieve, powerful men will try to cut you down

Trump hails himself 'greatest of all presidents'... (The Independent)

Democrats are meeting this weekend to prepare impeachment charges against Donald Trump, as he railed against the process on Twitter and declared himself "greatest of all presidents"...

60LolaWalser
Dec 14, 2019, 11:30pm Top

>59 johnthefireman:

powerful men will try to cut you down

Not only "powerful men". For every "powerful" man count thousands of loser shitheads validating each other by picking on a woman.

61RickHarsch
Dec 15, 2019, 6:45am Top

I wish the word 'loser' would lose currency and its meaning return to its narrower intended use.

62lriley
Dec 15, 2019, 9:17am Top

Trump's narcissistic aggrievement has wormed its way into the psyches of his supporters so that they've adopted it as their own. This envy he has over Greta's being named Time's Person of the Year is peculiar to his own dysfunctional and warped brain in its quest to make a cult of personality out of himself. His seeing success or greatness in terms of acknowledgement from a magazine or whoever gets the Nobel Peace Prize is the end result of his fucked up mentality. This mythologization of a common, ignorant and vulgar would be dictator type comes with sick religious like overtones. You'd think he were the next Christ listening to some of his cheerleaders and that the impeachment going on was a modern day version of Jesus being thrown to the wolves and marched off to the place of skulls. He broke the fucking law---he's done it numerous times during his lifetime. He more than deserves impeachment and actually should be going to prison. He actually has a lot in common with John Gotti.

63margd
Dec 19, 2019, 7:03am Top

Boy, Pence's motorcade on vehicle-free Mackinac Island, and now Trump's insinuation that the late John Dingell might be in hell--Trump/Pence 2020 sure have poor instincts for Michigan Apparently rump remarks even drew some moans and groans from his SUPPORTERS in Battle Creek, Michigan, about two hours away from Debbie Dingell's district. https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/18/politics/trump-rally-john-dingell-hell/index.html

In addition to protecting the automobile industry important to his district, "During (59 years) in Congress...(John) Dingell was instrumental in passage of the Medicare Act, the Water Quality Act of 1965, Clean Water Act of 1972, the Endangered Species Act of 1973, the Clean Air Act of 1990, and the Affordable Care Act, among others. He was most proud of his work on the Civil Rights Act of 1964." (Wikipedia)

Amazing, too, that Trump expected widow's fidelity in return for some consideration in funeral arrangements. Like the opening scene in film Godfather! A transactional presidency to the end.
__________________________________________________​

This is Ms Dingell's (invited) opinion piece that apparently drew Trump attack:

Debbie Dingell: Why I Will Vote to Impeach Trump
Debbie Dingell | Dec. 17, 2019

My decision comes after careful study of testimony, investigative reports and history...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/opinion/debbie-dingell-trump-impeachment.html

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Rep. Debbie Dingell @RepDebDingell | 9:54 PM · Dec 18, 2019
Mr. President, let’s set politics aside.
My husband earned all his accolades after a lifetime of service.
I’m preparing for the first holiday season without the man I love.
You brought me down in a way you can never imagine and your hurtful words just made my healing much harder.

642wonderY
Dec 19, 2019, 10:21am Top

Gather them up in new poorhouses (run by for-profits, I'm sure.) Make their circumstances illegal and take away citizens' rights. Where have we seen this before?

Trump's Plan to Criminalize Homelessness Is Taking Shape

The White House is taking steps toward decisive new action on homelessness, bucking policies favored by advocates in favor of an aggressive approach that centers the role of law enforcement. Some of these efforts hit roadblocks this week, but more measures are in the works—including a rumored executive order on homeless encampments.

Advocates say that they expect an executive order on homelessness to assign new resources to police departments to remove homeless encampments and even strip housing funds from cities that choose to tolerate these encampments. It’s one of several efforts being steered by the White House’s Domestic Policy Council in concert with the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

But the broader campaign to criminalize homelessness hit a snag on Monday, when the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear a case from Boise, Idaho, about whether local and state governments can make it a crime for people to sleep outside. A Supreme Court decision that overturned the federal appeals court’s decision might have enabled cities to prosecute people forced to sleep outside.

65margd
Dec 20, 2019, 5:26pm Top

Yay, Supreme Court! Housing/shelter is best, but don't chase them out-of-sight to more dangerous situations...

People who are homeless in Toronto experience injury and death from cold,
even in moderate winter weather: An evidence-based brief
Stephen Hwang, Director, MAP Centre for Urban Health Solutions

In Toronto, the Medical Officer of Health issues an extreme cold weather alert when temperatures fall below -15C. Recently, researchers led by St. Michael’s Hospital reviewed coroner’s records and emergency department charts from five downtown hospitals to explore the relationship between weather conditions and hypothermia among adults experiencing homelessness between 2004-2015. They found that while extreme cold temperatures put people at higher risk of hypothermia, most cases of injury and death due to cold occur in moderate winter weather.

This data suggests that the current state of the housing, shelter, respite, and warming centre systems in Toronto leaves many people at risk of injury and death due to cold. For example, there is currently only one warming centre open during extreme cold weather alerts (Metro Hall, with a capacity for 50 people). It is critically important to have a cold weather response strategy that includes low-barrier access to shelter beds and multiple warming centres throughout the winter months, not just on extremely cold days and nights...

https://maphealth.ca/homeless-cold-injury-toronto

66margd
Dec 21, 2019, 10:32am Top

Trump’s mean streak spares no one — living or dead
Ashley Parker | Dec. 20, 2019

..Over the past dozen days or so, the president has spewed forth an advent calendar’s worth of cruelty — new barbs popping out almost daily, like so many tiny bitter chocolates — underscoring the instinctual nastiness that is central to his brand and casting doubt on claims from his aides that Trump is merely a counterpuncher...

...Trump is almost always punching down. His targets of derision are not only less powerful than a U.S. president, but many are among the weakest and most vulnerable members of society. He has mocked and attacked, among others, immigrants, minorities, women and a reporter with a physical disability.

...The president’s behavior also seems to grant permission to some of his supporters to act in similar fashion...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-mean-streak-spares-no-one--living...

67alco261
Dec 21, 2019, 1:33pm Top

>66 margd: That picture of the two Trump supporters with their hate twisted faces (the two women yelling at reporters) was a jolt - all I could think of when I saw that was the now famous Little Rock High School picture of the two white girls whose faces are similarly contorted yelling at the lone black girl - I wonder - do you suppose the MAGA rally haters are the daughters of the two in the 1957 picture?

68margd
Dec 21, 2019, 1:55pm Top

Those two women even shape their mouths like Trump's!

I found some solace in moans and groans at Michigan rally when Trump dissed the late John Dingle...I bet there were autoworkers there, as well as people connected with the auto parts businesses so numerous in our state, and Dingell was always a proponent for their biz, not to mention all his other contributions.

69margd
Edited: Dec 22, 2019, 5:09pm Top

David Gura (MSNBC, NBC News) davidgura | 10:47 AM · Dec 22, 2019
On Instagram, we learn President Trump welcomed Eddie Gallagher,
who posed for photographs with a prisoner's corpse, to Mar-a-Lago last night.

Image ( https://twitter.com/davidgura/status/1208776159925809153/photo/1 )

70johnthefireman
Edited: Dec 24, 2019, 1:27am Top

‘I never understood wind’: Trump goes on bizarre tirade against wind turbines (Guardian)

President’s nonsensical rambling remarks about ‘windmills’ in segment from weekend speech raised eyebrows

Future generations will look back on Trump’s latest wind turbines rant in awe and horror (Vox)

Trump’s incoherent riffing about wind energy and “fumes,” decoded...

President Donald Trump has pushed a dizzying amount of misinformation about wind energy in 2019 — including, perhaps most memorably, his claim about wind turbines causing cancer — but if you’re looking for an encapsulation, you won’t find a better example than the speech he delivered on Saturday night to the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit in West Palm Beach, Florida.

During a rant about how bad the Green New Deal would purportedly be for the country, Trump made a series of false and bizarre claims about wind, including, among others, that the manufacturing of turbines creates “fumes” that “are spewing into the air;” making it sound as though wind turbines are pushing California’s bald eagle population to the brink of extinction; and, in an especially galaxy-brained moment, riffing that “you know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe.”

Trump began his comments about wind energy on an incoherent note, saying, “I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much.”

Things didn’t get much better from there...

71johnthefireman
Dec 24, 2019, 11:56pm Top

Trump Wages War Against the True Enemy of the State: LED Lightbulbs (Gizmodo)

Upgrading lightbulbs is one of the easiest, straightforward ways consumers can reduce their greenhouse gas emissions. And yet the president of the United States is determined to do everything in his power to ensure our individual emissions remain as high as they can possibly be. And that means finishing his war on lightbulbs.

The Department of Energy announced Friday a final determination to keep standards for incandescent lightbulbs as is because this is the world we live in now. Who cares that they emit more heat than light or die quicker than more modern bulbs like LEDs?! Who cares that they’ll help you save money on your energy bill?! Who cares that they’ll help make buildings more energy-efficient in the long run?! Who the hell cares!?

This is the mentality of Donald Trump, who has ranted that LED lightbulbs make his skin look orange. The dude always looks orange. This is the orangest man who has ever lived. But OK, sure. Whatever...

72margd
Edited: Dec 26, 2019, 9:00am Top

margd: IF ONLY Trump would remember that eternal truth...

@RealDonaldTrump: ...at Christmas, we remember this eternal truth: Every person is a beloved child of God.

Image ( https://twitter.com/StateDept/status/1209911840500854785/photo/1 )

-Department of State @StateDept | 2:00 PM · Dec 25, 2019

73margd
Dec 27, 2019, 6:43am Top

>69 margd: contd. The monster of a SEAL whom Trump pardoned, protected, and socialized with:

Anguish and Anger From the Navy SEALS Who Turned In Edward Gallagher
Dave Philipps | Dec. 27, 2019

See never-before-released video and confidential interviews with the Navy SEALs who accused Special Operations Chief Edward Gallagher of war crimes

...The Navy SEALs (of Alpha platoon, SEAL Team 7) showed up one by one, wearing hoodies and T-shirts instead of uniforms, to tell investigators what they had seen. Visibly nervous, they shifted in their chairs, rubbed their palms and pressed their fists against their foreheads. At times they stopped in midsentence and broke into tears...

...blistering testimony (of the men) about their platoon chief was dismissed by President Trump when he upended the military code of justice to protect Chief Gallagher from the punishment.

...“freaking evil”... “toxic” “You could tell he was perfectly O.K. with killing anybody that was moving”

...Platoon members said they saw Chief Gallagher shoot civilians and fatally stab a wounded captive with a hunting knife...Video from a SEAL’s helmet camera...shows the barely conscious captive — a teenage Islamic State fighter so thin that his watch slid easily up and down his arm — being brought in to the platoon one day in May 2017. Then the helmet camera is shut off.

In the video interviews with investigators, three SEALs said they saw Chief Gallagher go on to stab the sedated captive for no reason, and then hold an impromptu re-enlistment ceremony over the body, as if it were a trophy.

... Some of the SEALs said they came to believe that the chief was purposefully exposing them to enemy fire to bait ISIS fighters into revealing their positions. They said the chief thought that casualties in the platoon would increase his chances for a Silver Star.

..It is an unspoken rule among their teams that SEALs should not report other SEALs for misconduct. An internal investigation could close off choice assignments or end careers for the accusers as well as the accused. And anyone who reported concerns outside the tight-knit SEAL community risked being branded a traitor.

...SEALs who spoke to Navy investigators painted a picture of a platoon driven to despair by a chief who seemed to care primarily about racking up kills. They described how their chief targeted women and children and boasted that “burqas were flying.”

Seven members of the 22-person platoon testified at the trial that they saw the chief commit war crimes. Two men from the platoon testified that they did not see any evidence of crimes. Others refused to cooperate with prosecutors. Crucially, one SEAL who had accused the chief during the investigation — Special Operator Scott — changed his story on the witness stand, testifying that he and not Chief Gallagher had caused the captive’s death...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/us/navy-seals-edward-gallagher-video.html

74margd
Dec 28, 2019, 7:08am Top

George Conway@gtconway3d | 11:57 PM · Dec 27, 2019
Now our psycho president has retweeted the alleged identity of the whistleblower.

Cate McGowan @cate_mcgowan · 6h
...violating the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act (WPEA).

Karen Myatt @karenamyatt · 6h
...Oh, and he doxxed Pelosi tonight, retweeting photos of her home.

Time for a Baker Act.*

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* The Baker Act is a Florida law that enables families and loved ones to provide emergency mental health services and temporary detention for people who are impaired because of their mental illness, and who are unable to determine their needs for treatment.

https://ufhealth.org/ufhealth.org › baker-act

75margd
Dec 30, 2019, 4:46am Top

(((Yair Rosenberg))) @Yair_Rosenberg | 8:43 PM · Dec 29, 2019
Laura Loomer is a reprehensible bigot who among other idiocies has labeled the FBI "the Federal Bureau of Islam."
She was banned from Twitter.
Trump retweeted a fundraising campaign message for her. Yesterday. This has become so common for him that most of us missed it.

Quote Tweet
Will Sommer @willsommer · Dec 28
Trump retweeted a fundraising message for anti-Muslim activist and GOP House candidate Laura Loomer,
who’s called Islam a “cancer” and wants Muslims banned from holding public office.

Image ( https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1211087508261371904/photo/1 )

76johnthefireman
Dec 31, 2019, 2:17pm Top

Trump’s handling of the Gallagher case just got even more appalling (Washington Post)

“FREAKING EVIL.” That is how Special Operator First Class Craig Miller described Eddie Gallagher, the chief of his Navy SEAL platoon. Then, he wept...

The SEALs’ descriptions portray a fighter unhinged from the military’s mission of defending the nation and dedicated instead to his own desire to spill blood. Chief Gallagher, SEALs said, purposely exposed his soldiers to enemy fire and thought casualties in his platoon could win him a Silver Star...

The SEALs called Chief Gallagher a “psychopath.” He was “toxic.” He was “literally the worst of the worst.” His priority for the tour? “War stories at the end.” His motivation? “To kill anybody he can”...

These men broke the customary code of silence maintained by the SEALs because they thought Chief Gallagher’s behavior violated something more sacred: the duty of the men and women who fight for the United States to fight for it honorably. It’s this sacred duty that the president ridicules... What does this say to any soldier who wants to speak up about wrongdoing? Those who tried to hold Chief Gallagher to account are suffering insults on national television, while the petty officer, now retired with full honors, is palling around with the president at Mar-a-Lago.

The story is of a commander in chief who has shown little respect for the chain of command, and little regard for the imperative of military professionalism and virtue. But it’s also the story of individual service members who knew better — and did better. “Let’s not forget there are 7-12 of us in here who had the balls to tell the truth about what Eddie has done,” one of the whistleblower SEALs texted his compatriots. The rest of the country shouldn’t forget, either.

77johnthefireman
Jan 1, 4:12am Top

Just watched on BBC Trump waxing eloquent about North Korea breaching a signed agreement on nuclear weapons. Trump obviously has a short memory concerning the agreements signed by the USA that he has broken since he became president.

78margd
Edited: Jan 5, 7:15am Top

War criminals
assassinate,
target civilians,
target cultural sites...

Christine Pelosi @sfpelosi | 11:23 PM · Jan 4, 2020:
Your TV lawyers probably didn’t tell you this but as President you should already know:
targeting ‘destruction of religious sites and artifacts’ is a war crime under UN Security Council Resolution 2347 (March 2017).
( https://www.un.org/securitycouncil/s/res/2347-%282017%29 )

Quote Tweet
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump | 5:52 PM · Jan 4, 2020
...if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have.....

....targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!

79margd
Jan 5, 9:36am Top

>78 margd: war crimes, contd.

...pressed by @jaketapper on whether carrying out Trump’s threat to strike cultural sites in Iran would violate international law,
Pompeo response that US response would be consistent with “rule of law” — not “international law.”

-Laura Rosenberger @rosenbergerlm | 9:06 AM · Jan 5, 2020

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Certain war crimes under international law—in particular, attacking cultural sites with resulting death—
would constitute capital offenses under the criminal code of the United States of America.

See 18 U.S.C. § 2441 ( https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1213608404146642950/photo/1 )

-George Conway @gtconway3d | 9:21 AM · Jan 5, 2020

802wonderY
Jan 6, 1:55pm Top

Can someone explain the distinction between "rule of law" and "international law" so I can get an inkling of the weasel-y difference? Thanks.

81proximity1
Edited: Jan 6, 2:32pm Top

>80 2wonderY:

is this a "joke"? a "Trick question" ?

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Occupied Territory ! Under the Convention, States Parties occupying foreign territory must preserve cultural property in that territory (CCP, Art. 5). !

The 1954 Protocol requires States Parties occupying territory during armed conflict to prevent the exportation of cultural property from that territory (P1, Art. 1). However, if cultural property is exported, States Parties must return it at the close of the hostilities (P1, Art. 3).

Special protectionThe 1954 Convention provides a system of "special protection", which resulted in only limited success. In response to the limitations of the 1954 system, the 1999 Protocol introduces a new system of "enhanced protection" (see below).

If property has been granted both special and enhanced protection, only enhanced protection applies (P2, Art. 4). Enhanced protectionThe 1999 Protocol provides "enhanced protection" of certain cultural objects. Criteria for Protection:!

To be granted "enhanced protection", cultural property must meet the following three criteria (P2, Art. 10):

(1) it is cultural heritage of the greatest importance to humanity;

(2) it is protected by domestic measures that recognize its cultural and historical value and ensure the highest level of protection;

(3) it is not used for military purposes or to shield military sites, and the Party which has control over the property has formally declared that it will not be so used. !

Cultural property granted enhanced protection by the Committee for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict is placed on the "List of Cultural Property under Enhanced Protection" (P2, Art. 11).

Protection: ! Parties holding property included on the List must not use such property or its immediate surroundings in support of military action (P2, Art. 12). There is no exception to this obligation. ! Parties to the Convention must refrain from attack against property on the List (P2, Art. 12).

Exception:!

The obligation not to attack property on the List does not apply if such property has, by virtue of its use, become a military objective. Attack is permitted only if it is the only feasible means of terminating such use and if precautions are taken to minimize damage to the property. Effective advance warning must be given, circumstances permitting (P2, Art. 13).



https://www.icrc.org/en/doc/assets/files/other/cultural_property.pdf

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Wow! Just imagine if nation-states were actually held to these strict standards of conduct consistently!

What then?

How many living ex-presidents of the United States--(and their inferior officers!) --can escape criminal liability under these terms?

Another question for you Mensa geniuses:

Now, tell us: these prohibitons against the damage or destruction of cultural properties, they're per se, (that is, in and of themselves,) so important that, in order to be sure the terms are respected, the U.S. and all other civilized nations should refrain from any acts which violate them, even if the practical result of this is Iran's obtaining its own arsenal of nuclear weapons and, with them, the capacity to use them at its sole discretion.

Please, do sign on to this stipulation here, openly, overtly and candidly if you're going to hold President Trump to this restriction.

I expect to see Trump's critics here state openly and on record by their user-names that, in their view, the principle of protection of cultural sites from deliberate or accidental damage or destruction from warfare strikes is so important that it can, ought and must precede and supercede any other objective or priority.

Let's see you sign on to that.

If I don't see you declare that you support such a view, I'm going to feel free to assume that, in the absence of your declaration, you in fact do not hold President Trump to these terms, now or in the future.

Cards-on-the-table time. "If, to protect Iran's cultural heritage from warfare damage and destruction, Iran must be permitted the freedom to act in ways which include its eventual stock-piling of its own nuclear arsenal, usable at its own discretion."

Yea or Nay? Which is it to be?

My guess: you lot are a bunch of fucking cowards and won't even answer this challenge. Prove me wrong on that.

Over to you, kids ...

82margd
Jan 7, 3:09am Top

>80 2wonderY: Good question. Below is 50-minute podcast from June 2019 on the rules-based international order: "We in the United States largely built this system, and we have benefitted enormously from it—some critics would say we've benefitted too much. And now we are tearing it down, to the delight of Russian President Putin and authoritarian leaders worldwide."

( Curious to me that the US hasn't ratified the Law of the Sea, which seems aligned with its interests in South China Sea and the melting Arctic, e.g., https://sites.tufts.edu/lawofthesea/chapter-eight/ Real reticenece even before Trump to international constraints of any kind? Lawyers on LT could say.)

The Lawfare Podcast: Culper Partners Rule of Law Series: John Bellinger
Jen Patja Howell | June 8, 2019, 1:30 PM

In this episode of the special Culper Partners Rule of Law Series, David Kris and Nate Jones speak with John Bellinger.

Bellinger is one of the country's foremost experts in international law. His career has included the private practice of law and more than a decade in the federal government, as both a career official and a political appointee. From 2001–2005, John served in the White House under George W. Bush as legal advisor to the National Security Council and as senior associate counsel to the president. From 2005–2009, he served as a legal advisor to the Department of State, and in 2009, he returned to private practice at Arnold & Porter, where he heads the firm's public international law practice.

In his remarks, Bellinger expresses a profound anguish over assaults on the rules-based international order. We in the United States largely built this system, and we have benefitted enormously from it—some critics would say we've benefitted too much. And now we are tearing it down, to the delight of Russian President Putin and authoritarian leaders worldwide. It's a sobering conversation with one of America's foremost international lawyers: (50-minute podcast)

https://www.lawfareblog.com/lawfare-podcast-culper-partners-rule-law-series-john...

83margd
Edited: Jan 11, 2:07pm Top

Justin Amash @justinamash | 12:48 PM · Jan 11, 2020He sells troops.

“We have a very good relationship with Saudi Arabia—I said, listen, you’re a very rich country. You want more troops?
I’m going to send them to you, but you’ve got to pay us. They’re paying us. They’ve already deposited $1B in the bank.”

0:38 ( https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1216054398138376192 )
From Acyn Torabi

84lriley
Jan 12, 6:03am Top

#83--another illegality. The United States military are not mercenaries to be bartered off to foreign heads of state. Hawks like Lindsey Graham know this. It's a long standing precedent of the United States. Hopefully this is not a story that runs under the radar.

85margd
Jan 12, 6:49am Top

#84 In video clip, Trump also says that South Korea paid $500K.

People are asking "what bank?".

Also, people are stating that their kids are not for sale.
Sounds like selling military could undermine sense of patriotic, honorable mission, and
thus reduce the number of willing volunteers for US military? (Putin chortles.)

86lriley
Jan 12, 8:01am Top

#85--it's in absolute contradiction to his 'America first' shtick. More of the transactional Donald---where the money went is another question. It went to a bank---whatever that means.

87margd
Jan 13, 6:47am Top

#83-86

Who Signs Up to Fight? Makeup of U.S. Recruits Shows Glaring Disparity
Dave Philipps and Tim Arango | Jan. 10, 2020

...More and more, new recruits are the children of old recruits. In 2019, 79 percent of Army recruits reported having a family member who served. For nearly 30 percent, it was a parent — a striking point in a nation where less than 1 percent of the population serves in the military...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/us/military-enlistment.html

88margd
Jan 17, 8:31am Top

‘You’re a bunch of dopes and babies’: Inside Trump’s stunning tirade against generals
Carol D. Leonnig and Philip Rucker | Jan. 17, 2020 at 6:00 a.m. EST

...‘postwar rules-based international order’...For the next 90 minutes, Mattis, Tillerson, and Cohn took turns trying to emphasize their points, pointing to their charts and diagrams. They showed where U.S. personnel were positioned, at military bases, CIA stations, and embassies, and how U.S. deployments fended off the threats of terror cells, nuclear blasts, and destabilizing enemies in places including Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, the Korea Peninsula, and Syria. Cohn spoke for about 20 minutes about the value of free trade with America’s allies, emphasizing how he saw each trade agreement working together as part of an overall structure to solidify U.S. economic and national security.

...Trump by now was in one of his rages. He was so angry that he wasn’t taking many breaths. All morning, he had been coarse and cavalier, but the next several things he bellowed went beyond that description. They stunned nearly everyone in the room, and some vowed that they would never repeat them. Indeed, they have not been reported until now.

“I wouldn’t go to war with you people,” Trump told the assembled brass.

Addressing the room, the commander in chief barked, “You’re a bunch of dopes and babies.”

For a president known for verbiage he euphemistically called “locker room talk,” this was the gravest insult he could have delivered to these people, in this sacred space (the "Tank" where classified info shared). The flag officers in the room were shocked. Some staff began looking down at their papers, rearranging folders, almost wishing themselves out of the room. A few considered walking out. They tried not to reveal their revulsion on their faces, but questions raced through their minds. “How does the commander in chief say that?” one thought. “What would our worst adversaries think if they knew he said this?”

This was a president who had been labeled a “draft dodger” for avoiding service in the Vietnam War under questionable circumstances...

Tillerson in particular was stunned by Trump’s diatribe and began visibly seething. For too many minutes, others in the room noticed, he had been staring straight, dumbfounded, at Mattis, who was speechless, his head bowed down toward the table. Tillerson thought to himself, “Gosh darn it, Jim, say something. Why aren’t you saying something?”

But, as he would later tell close aides, Tillerson realized in that moment that Mattis was genetically a Marine, unable to talk back to his commander in chief, no matter what nonsense came out of his mouth.

...“No, that’s just wrong,” the secretary of state said. “Mr. President, you’re totally wrong. None of that is true.”

Tillerson’s father and uncle had both been combat veterans, and he was deeply proud of their service.

“The men and women who put on a uniform don’t do it to become soldiers of fortune,” Tillerson said. “That’s not why they put on a uniform and go out and die . . . They do it to protect our freedom.”

There was silence in the Tank. Several military officers in the room were grateful to the secretary of state for defending them when no one else would...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/youre-a-bunch-of-dopes-and-babies-inside...

89margd
Jan 26, 10:20am Top

"..has not paid the price, YET..."
!!!!!!!!!DOG WHISTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump | 8:20 AM · Jan 26, 2020

Shifty Adam Schiff is a CORRUPT POLITICIAN, and probably a very sick man.
He has not paid the price, yet, for what he has done to our Country!

90margd
Feb 12, 5:30pm Top

Trump says he 'won't be changing his mind' on view that brain injuries suffered by US troops in Iran's attack are not very serious
Ryan Pickrell | February 11, 2020 at 06:15 PM

President Donald Trump doubled down on his assertion on Monday that the injuries suffered by U.S. troops during an Iranian ballistic missile attack on U.S. forces are "not very serious" amid continued criticism.

Iran, swiftly retaliating over the death of Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani at the hands of the U.S. military, fired over a dozen ballistic missiles at US and coalition forces in Iraq in early January. In the immediate aftermath, the president announced that "no Americans were harmed" and moved to de-escalate tensions.

Since then, the number of U.S. troops who have been diagnosed with mild traumatic brain injuries has steadily risen from 109, the Pentagon revealed Monday in its latest update. The specific severity of which remains unknown,

Symptoms of a TBI can be slow to manifest and sometimes harder to detect than other injuries. The Department of Defense has offered this as an explanation for initial misreporting on injuries.

While roughly 70 percent of the injured have already returned to duty, 21 service members have been transported to the U.S. for additional care, suggesting their injuries may be more severe than those suffered by others...

https://taskandpurpose.com/trump-traumatic-brain-injury-iran-missile-attack

92Molly3028
Feb 15, 10:54am Top

Prox and his ilk are proof that Trump is a master manipulator ~ there is no bottom.

93margd
Feb 24, 8:26am Top

Some new ideas for Trump security (oh! the PR):

India Doesn’t Want Monkeys Attacking Trump During Taj Mahal Visit
David Moye | Feb 20,2020

...The city of Agra, where the famous building is located, will be under security lockdown during Trump’s visit, India Today reported. That means that no one will be allowed out of their homes when the president is traveling from the local airport to the Taj Mahal.

That’s fine and dandy for humans. But try convincing the 500 to 700 monkeys living near the nearly four-century-old mausoleum. The rhesus macaques have a reputation for being very aggressive toward the 25,000 tourists who visit the Taj on a typical day.

Slingshots, police say, are the solution. Officers assigned to Trump’s visit will be armed with the devices to chase off any monkeys that menace the president and first lady Melania Trump during their visit.

...The weapons work on monkeys individually or in small groups, but they’re “completely ineffective” in warding off packs of maurading macaques, a law enforcement official told India Today.

...One Agra resident... “The terror of the monkeys is so pervasive that women and children are scared of going up on the roof of their houses, which have almost been taken over by monkeys...If such a large troop of monkeys attacks Donald Trump’s entourage, it will be a disaster.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-taj-mahal-monkey-attack_n_5e4eb356c5b615cb7...

94margd
Feb 25, 5:23pm Top

Judge expresses concern for Stone juror's safety as Trump continues attacks
Ali Dukakis | February 25, 2020

President Trump has attacked the jury forewoman as "totally tainted."...

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/judge-expresses-concern-stone-jurors-safety-trum...

96margd
Mar 2, 11:21am Top

Trump retweets video of him defeating his critics after second confirmed coronavirus death reported in U.S.
Timothy Bella | March 2, 2020

Shortly after health officials in Washington state confirmed the second U.S. death from the novel coronavirus in as many days, President Trump retweeted an animated video Sunday night in which he again bragged about his accomplishments, laughed at his political opponents and critics, and smiled as Mount Rushmore was reshaped to feature only his face.

(2 min https://twitter.com/DrLateNightNews/status/1234134697455779840 )

Trump’s retweet came less than two hours after Seattle and King County public health officials announced that a Seattle-area man in his 70s with underlying health conditions died Saturday of covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. The news of the second confirmed U.S. death was announced in the same weekend that New York, Rhode Island and Florida confirmed probable and likely cases of the virus...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/02/trump-retweets-video-coronaviru...

97margd
Edited: Mar 3, 11:34am Top

ETA: Trump suggests using flu vaccine on coronavirus and is instantly corrected by health experts: ‘No’
President appears to not understand basic information about vaccine testing
Conrad Duncan | March 3, 2020
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-...

Trump made coronavirus claim, but a scientist had to stop him (9:05)
•Mar 2, 2020
CNN's Erin Burnett discusses claims made by President Donald Trump about the coronavirus that have completely contradicted what scientists have reported. #CNN #News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXVW5yJP5RA

Jim Acosta Acosta | 9:07 PM · Mar 2, 2020:
Source familiar with admin Coronavirus response said
scientists and experts at Trump's meeting with pharmaceutical industry leaders today
were able to convince Trump that it will likely take year or longer for vaccine to hit market.
“I think he's got it now," source said.

Joshua Potash @JoshuaPotash | 9:06 PM · Mar 2, 2020:
Trump thinks we should use the flu vaccine to defend against coronavirus.
We could not be in worse hands.
13 sec ( https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1234661401488052226 )

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"So you have a medicine that's already involved with the coronaviruses, and now you have to see if it's specifically for this.
You can know that tomorrow, can't you?" -- Trump has no idea what a clinical trial is
0:41 ( https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1234615717162618882 )
- Aaron Rupar @atrupar | 6:04 PM · Mar 2, 2020

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Seema Verma, just added to Pence's Covid-2019 team...

nikki mccann ramírez @NikkiMcR | 5:51 PM · Mar 2, 2020:
It is WILD that in the middle of a global health emergency
Americans on Medicare and Medicaid are being told the government
has to review what will and won't be covered in terms of treatment.
0:18 ( https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1234612348008247296 )

Kept at the Hospital on Coronavirus Fears, Now Facing Large Medical Bills
Sarah Kliff | Feb. 29, 2020
Care was mandated by the government, but it’s not clear who has to pay.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/upshot/coronavirus-surprise-medical-bills.htm...

98margd
Edited: Mar 3, 1:52pm Top

>97 margd: Remember that CDC scientist who corrected Trump about vaccine timeline, etc. (#97)?

Anthony Fauci was supposed to present on the coronavirus at a Senate Democrats’ luncheon today.
He just learned—from Sen. Tim Kaine—that his appearance has been cancelled, without explanation.
(Dr. Deborah Birx will be speaking to the Democrats instead.)
- Alexander Nazaryan (Yahoo News) @alexnazaryan |11:44 AM · Mar 3, 2020

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'You don't want to go to war with a president'
How Dr. Anthony Fauci is navigating the coronavirus outbreak in the Trump era.

SARAH OWERMOHLE | 03/03/2020

Anthony Fauci might be the one person everyone in Washington trusts right now.

But at 79, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases is in the thick of one of the biggest battles of 35 years in the role: The race to contain coronavirus when the nation is deeply polarized and misinformation can spread with one tweet — sometimes, from the president himself.

“You should never destroy your own credibility. And you don't want to go to war with a president,” Fauci, who has been the country’s top infectious diseases expert through a dozen outbreaks and six presidents, told POLITICO in an interview Friday. “But you got to walk the fine balance of making sure you continue to tell the truth.”

And the truth about coronavirus? “I don't think that we are going to get out of this completely unscathed,” he said. “I think that this is going to be one of those things we look back on and say boy, that was bad.”...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/03/anthony-fauci-trump-coronavirus-crisis-...

99margd
Edited: Mar 4, 7:59am Top

Alex Azar says that scientists have developed a potential vaccine after three days
0:21 ( https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1234950243512242176 )
- Acyn Torabi @Acyn | 4:14 PM · Mar 3, 2020

This is so unbelievably irresponsible. Shame on Azar!
(If it's not immediately obvious why, see the next tweet in this thread in which
Dr. Fauci almost jumps out of his shoes trying to rein in these deceitful politicians.
And Azar's a former drug company exec, who knows better.)
- Walter Shaub @waltshaub | 5:21 PM · Mar 3, 2020

Fauci has to tamp down on vaccine expectations which causes the President to ask him to talk about therapeutics
0:34 ( https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1234951769941135360 )
- Acyn Torabi @Acyn | 4:20 PM · Mar 3, 2020

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ETA: Photos were allowed, however... :(

Reporters not allowed to record audio or video today at Pence and team’s coronavirus update.
This is noteworthy and unacceptable.

- Amy Siskind @Amy_Siskind | 7:08 PM · Mar 3, 2020

100margd
Mar 5, 8:28am Top

In this clip, Trump:
1. Denies WHO's coronavirus death rate based on “hunch"
2. Calls coronavirus "corona flu"
3. Suggests it's fine for people w/ Covid-19 to go to work
4. Compares coronavirus to "the regular flu," indicating he doesn't get the difference
2:13 ( https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1235411751950221312 )
- Aaron Rupar @atrupar | 10:48 PM · Mar 4, 2020

On up side, VP Pence is apparently doing better job:

Pence and Trump take different paths during coronavirus outbreak
Stephen Collinson | March 5, 2020

...Vice President Mike Pence, flanked by scientists and public health experts rather than political spinners, is briefing lawmakers and the press and even privately admitting early missteps. He's also publicly tackling the most imminent issues -- after complaints about his closed briefing on Tuesday -- responding Wednesday to the elevated danger the disease poses to the elderly, for instance.

But the administration has still not explained why Washington has been so slow to distribute testing kits in bulk and has dragged its feet on removing restrictions for who can conduct diagnosis. And Pence's efforts, which are winning qualified praise from some Capitol Hill Democrats, risk being undermined by the President's inflammatory and inaccurate personal commentary on the virus, which risk further undermining public trust in his leadership at a moment of national emergency...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/05/politics/donald-trump-mike-pence-coronavirus/inde...

101margd
Edited: Mar 5, 10:19am Top

Stephen Miller's new wife, apparently tasked with WH messaging on Covid-19, at Pence press briefing:

This was probably not picked up most cable network coverage.

"Can the uninsured get tested?"
(no response)
"Gentlemen, ladies...Can the uninsured get tested?"
WH staffer: "Screaming for the camera can't get you anywhere."
0:22 ( https://twitter.com/IvanTheK/status/1235344149232193536 )

These people. SMH.

- Ivan the K™ @IvanTheK | 6:19 PM · Mar 4, 2020

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ETA. A longer take. Reporter was @BrianKarem

0:39 ( https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1235352633545756673 )
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102margd
Mar 7, 3:02am Top

UNbelievable!! Watch CDC Director Reddfield's face, left of Trump.

"I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship" --
Trump explains that he doesn't want to let people off the Grand Princess cruise ship
because he doesn't want the number of coronavirus cases in the country to go up
0:48 ( https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1236054778318393344 )

- Aaron Rupar @atrupar | 5:23 PM · Mar 6, 2020

103margd
Mar 8, 8:57am Top

Official: White House didn’t want to tell seniors not to fly
MIKE STOBBE 3/8/2020

NEW YORK (AP) — The White House overruled health officials who wanted to recommend that elderly and physically fragile Americans be advised not to fly on commercial airlines because of the new coronavirus...

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention submitted the plan this week as a way of trying to control the virus, but White House officials ordered the air travel recommendation be removed, said the official who had direct knowledge of the plan. Trump administration officials have since suggested certain people should consider not traveling, but they have stopped short of the stronger guidance sought by the CDC.

...On Friday, the CDC quietly updated its website to tell older adults and people with severe medical conditions such as heart, lung or kidney disease to “stay home as much as possible” and avoid crowds. It urges those people to “take actions to reduce your risk of exposure,” but it doesn’t specifically address flying...

https://apnews.com/921ad7f1f08d7634bf681ba785faf269

104margd
Edited: Mar 8, 9:13pm Top

Image ( https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1236519422917062656/photo/1 )
- Dan Scavino (asst to the President) @DanScavino | 12:09 AM · Mar 8, 2020

Who knows what this means, but it sounds good to me!
- Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump | 6:18 PM · Mar 8, 2020

A picture of Trump on a fiddle
Is Donald’s new favorite riddle.
He thinks he’s the hero,
But really is Nero—
Shit burns while his thumbs merely twiddle.
- Liberal Limericks @Libericks | 6:57 PM · Mar 8, 2020

The POTUS, in the middle of a public health crisis, is retweeting memes that say "NOTHING CAN STOP WHAT'S COMING"
In addition to being completely tone deaf, this phrase is associated with the QAnon conspiracy theory
We need SCIENCE and FACTS
Instead we have this
- Judd Legum @JuddLegum | 8:02 PM · Mar 8, 2020

105margd
Edited: Mar 12, 8:31am Top

In article below, President Trump does not look well in photo from WH meeting with bank CEOs about the coronavirus Wednesday, March 11.

Besieged Trump announces Europe travel ban in effort to stem coronavirus pandemic
Philip Rucker and Anne Gearan | March 11, 2020

...Trump said the United States would ban all travel from Europe...for 30 days beginning Friday at midnight...The White House also later clarified that the travel restrictions do not apply to U.S. citizens and can be waived in multiple circumstances.

...Although he read from a prepared script...Trump incorrectly described his own policy. The president said in his speech that the travel restriction from Europe would apply to cargo and trade as well as passengers. But the text of the order, later released by the White House, stated that the ban would not include cargo, allowing for continued trade between the continents to maintain the free flow of commerce.

...For the 11 minutes he addressed the nation Wednesday, Trump turned in a laboring performance — one intended to project calm competence that instead seemed to reveal uncertainty. Seated behind the Resolute Desk, the president struggled at moments to read the words on the teleprompter. He clasped his hands and twiddled his thumbs. He spoke with a curious affect, his voice sounding raspy and his delivery lacking the passion typically evident in his speeches...

...Trump’s demeanor made clear how hemmed in he has become. For weeks now...he has contradicted the public health experts in his own government, spread misinformation, accused the media of overhyping the threat of the virus to hurt his presidency, sought to lay blame on Democrats and the Chinese, and erupted in private meetings with advisers...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/besieged-trump-announces-drastic-measure...

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Insurance Industry Corrects Trump: Actually, We're Only Waiving Copays for Coronavirus Testing, Not Treatment
Jake Johnson | March 12, 2020

In a prime-time televised address...President Donald Trump Wednesday night claimed that major U.S. insurance companies "have agreed to waive all copayments for coronavirus treatments" as the disease rapidly spreads across the nation.

A spokesperson for America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), a major insurance industry lobbying group, was quick to clarify that, actually, companies are only waiving co-pays for "testing." For those who test positive for COVID-19, any treatment will still come at a...cost.

..."For testing. Not for treatment," the AHIP spokesperson told Politico healthcare reporter Sarah Owermohle after Trump delivered his prepared remarks, which included a muddled declaration of a temporary travel ban from much of Europe, sparking widespread confusion and sending markets into an even deeper tailspin.

A White House official also stepped in to correct Trump's claim that insurance companies agreed to waive co-pays for coronavirus treatment after meeting with the president at the White House on Tuesday.

The anonymous official told CNN's Jim Acosta that Trump, who read his remarks off a teleprompter, meant to say that insurance companies "have agreed to waive all copays on coronavirus testing."...

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/12/insurance-industry-corrects-trump-a...

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Watch: Trump’s Oval Office address on the coronavirus
Cameron Peters | Mar 11, 2020

President Donald Trump addressed the nation on Wednesday night to outline his administration’s response to the coronavirus outbreak in the US.

The World Health Organization declared the virus a pandemic earlier Wednesday, and the number of confirmed cases in the US topped 1,200 this week as more states implemented states of emergency in response to the outbreak.

A rush transcript of the president’s remarks is below. Details of his proposals can be found here, or you can watch the full address (9:29)...

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/11/21176001/trump-coronavirus-speech-travel-ban-trans...

1062wonderY
Mar 12, 9:27am Top

>105 margd: "President Trump does not look well in photo from WH meeting "

I've been noticing that for the last week or so. Stress.

107margd
Mar 12, 1:10pm Top

Here’s the video of Trump moments ago praising the Irish prime minister for “the UK’s” handling of the coronavirus crisis.
Ireland is not part of the UK.

( 0:30 https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1238132638650695681 )

- John Aravosis @aravosis | 11:59 AM · Mar 12, 2020

(Ireland does however have a Trump property.)

108margd
Mar 13, 5:12am Top

Philip Rucker @PhilipRucker | 10:25 PM · Mar 12, 2020:
Last night Trump told the nation:
“We must put politics aside, stop the partisanship, and unify together as one nation and one family.”

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump | 10:20 PM · Mar 12, 2020:
Sleepy Joe Biden was in charge of the H1N1 Swine Flu epidemic which killed thousands of people.
The response was one of the worst on record.
Our response is one of the best, with fast action of border closings & a 78% Approval Rating, the highest on record.
His was lowest!

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Jennifer Horn @NHJennifer | 11:10 PM · Mar 12, 2020:
You narcissistic, corrupt, unstable, incompetent, liar.
Truth: Obama admin tested 1 mil Americans within 30 days of first H1N1 case.
1st US #COVID19 was over 50 days ago-fewer than 10,000 tested.

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David Frum @davidfrum | 11:06 PM · Mar 12, 2020:
H1N1 was first diagnosed in US April 15, 2009.
CDC activated emergency operations April 22.
1 million tests released by May 15.
Prototype vaccine completed by end August 2009.

Here's link to CDC report on H1N1 ( https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html )

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https://twitter.com/preising/status/1238311600391667712/photo/1

109margd
Edited: Mar 13, 6:16am Top

* Sophie Gregoire Trudeau tests positive, Trudeau self-quarantines.
* Fabio Wajngarten tests positive, Bolsonaro gets tested and self-quarantines.
* Trump and Pence are exposed to Wajngarten and Bolsonaro yet refuse to get tested, and continue to be out and about shaking hands.

- Amy Siskind @Amy_Siskind10:28 PM · Mar 12, 2020

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...China has provided medical assistance to Italy, offered Spain the same.
(Trump) treats Europe like a terrorist network...

- larryleclair @larryleclair | 10:31 PM · Mar 12, 2020

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Tweeting this video again because I can’t get it out of my mind-in the middle of a pandemic,
Trump remains focused on protecting industry & refers to you & me as consumers.
Not people. Not citizens. Consumers. Watch the whole thing.
...
0:30 ( https://twitter.com/TimOBrien/status/1238086462777802752 )
From The Hill

- Joyce Alene @JoyceWhiteVance | 10:42 PM · Mar 12, 2020

110margd
Edited: Mar 13, 9:28am Top

Trump Blocks Use of Medicaid to Respond to Coronavirus Crisis
Taegan Goddard | March 13, 2020

“Despite mounting pleas from California and other states, the Trump administration isn’t allowing states to use Medicaid more freely to respond to the coronavirus crisis by expanding medical services,” the Los Angeles Times reports.

“In previous emergencies, including the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Hurricane Katrina and the H1N1 flu outbreak, both Republican and Democratic administrations loosened Medicaid rules to empower states to meet surging needs.”

“But months into the current global disease outbreak, the White House and senior federal health officials haven’t taken the necessary steps to give states simple pathways to fully leverage the mammoth safety net program to prevent a wider epidemic.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/13/trump-blocks-use-of-medicaid-to-respond-to-...
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-03-13/trump-administration-blocks-st...

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Contrary to American College of Physicians' recommendations B1, 4, 5, 7 and F2(?):

ACP (American College of Physicians) Recommends Swift Action to Address COVID-19 (4 p)

(A) The President Should Declare a National Emergency

(B) Expand Coverage and Access to Testing and Treatment

1. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services(CMS) should designate that laboratory tests and services related to diagnosis and treatment of COVID-19 are covered under the Essential Health Benefit package.

2. Congress should require group plans covered by the Employee Retirement Income Security Act to cover COVID-19 testing and treatment without cost sharing.

3. Congress and the administration should expedite evaluation by the appropriate bodies and if supported by the evidence, designate COVID-19 tests and related services as covered preventive services without cost sharing.

4. The administration should issue guidance to state governors and Medicaid directors encouraging them to temporarily expand Medicaid coverage eligibility with federal funding.

5. The administration and states should simplify application and establish presumptive eligibility for Medicaid for COVID-19testing, diagnosis and treatment.

6. All states should require health insurance plans subject to state regulation cover COVID-19 tests and treatment at no cost to enrollees.

7. CMS and the states should suspend Medicaid work requirements to allow for testing and treatment of COVID-19 without having to establish that they meet a state’s work eligibility requirements

8. Congress should mandate and provide federal funding so that all employers will implement paid family and medical leave.

9. The administration should issue—and if appropriate, encourage states to establish—a Special Enrollment Period (SEP) for the insurance markets/exchanges established by the ACA, allowing individuals to sign up for coverage outside the usual enrollment period.

(C) Funding the Public Health Response

1. Congress should fully fund the Hospital Preparedness Program, which provides federal funding for health care system readiness during emergencies and disasters.

2. Congress should immediately authorize and appropriate funding for community healthcenters (CHCs) since many low-income and/or uninsured individuals access COVID-19 care at these facilities.

(D) Ensure Sufficient Supply of Protective Equipment

1. Congress should ensure that the $500 million for masks, protective equipment, and other pharmaceutical and medical supplies provided by H.R. 6074 is sufficient.

2. Federal and state governments and other stakeholders should work with manufacturers of personal protective equipment, and provide sufficient funding,to ensure an adequate supply.

(E) Facilitate use of telehealth for COVID-19 testing and treatment

1. Medicare, the states, and other authorities and stakeholders should ensure that unnecessary barriers to using telehealth services to patients are lifted.

(F) Ensure access to COVID-19 testing and treatment for resident non-citizens

1.The Department of Homeland Security should establish that health care facilities will be immigration enforcement-free zones so that immigration status does not prevent a person from seeking care.

2.The administration should suspend the public charge rule to allow for Medicaid coverage, testing, and treatment of legal non-citizen residents seeking testing and treatment for COVID-19.

https://www.acponline.org/acp_policy/statements/covid_19_recommendations_2020.pd...

111Limelite
Mar 14, 2:28pm Top

Add this to the infinite list of "How Low Can I Go" by DJT. At yesterday's Covid19 Task Force press briefing.
Trump rebuffed critics of his administration's response, saying he inherited a system that wasn't able to respond quickly enough. Asked whether he took responsibility for the lag in making tests available for the coronavirus (MSNBC reporter) Trump responded, "I don't take responsibility at all."

Trump also said he was not responsible for dismantling a pandemic office inside the White House National Security Council, scolding a(n) (NPR) reporter for asking what he called "a nasty question."

"I didn't do it," he said. "I don't know anything about it."
In paragraph one, all Trump does is brush off the question with self-serving excuses. In paragraph two, he tells an outright lie and attacks a reporter for questioning him about what is true -- he did eliminate the pandemic office in order to partially pay for his boondoggle tax cut for corporations and the wealthy.

Vote him out. Lock him up.

112johnthefireman
Mar 15, 12:45am Top

Trump is a 'vulgar fool' (Bob Geldof) and 'He's an idiot' (The Guardian).

Trump is 'vulgar fool' but world should fear tech titans, says Geldof (Bangkok Post)

'He's an idiot': critics say Trump has failed the US in this test of reassurance (Guardian)

Good old Bob also dismisses British Prime Minister Boris Johnson as a "simpleton" for Brexit. Geldof is a man, in his own words, who cannot keep his "gob shut". Good on you, mate.

113johnthefireman
Mar 15, 1:38am Top

Teen models, powerful men and private dinners: when Trump hosted Look of the Year (Guardian)

In the early 90s, Donald Trump judged the world’s biggest modelling competition - since hit by allegations of abuse. This is how the people who were there remember it...

114margd
Mar 15, 2:57pm Top

Infighting, missteps and a son-in-law hungry for results: Inside the Trump administration’s troubled coronavirus response
Ashley Parker, Philip Rucker, Yasmeen Abutaleb and Josh Dawsey | March 14 at 9:15 PM

...Kushner entered into a crisis management process that, despite the triumphant and self-congratulatory tone of public briefings, was as haphazard and helter-skelter as the chaotic early days of Trump’s presidency — turning into something of a family-and-friends pandemic response operation.

The administration’s struggle to mitigate the coronavirus outbreak has been marked by infighting and blame-shifting, misinformation and missteps, and a slow recognition of the danger. Warring factions have wrestled for control internally and for approval from a president who has been preoccupied with the beating his image is taking.

The scramble for solutions is occurring in an overriding atmosphere of trepidation of saying something that Trump might perceive as disloyal and of fear that their fumbles could cost the president his reelection in November...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/infighting-missteps-and-a-son-in-law-hun...

115margd
Mar 15, 3:52pm Top

Coronavirus Screening Causes 7-Hour Waits in Crowded Lines at U.S. Airports
Robert Chiarito, Mitch Smith and Mariel Padilla | March 15, 2020

...On Saturday, days after announcing restrictions on travel from mainland Europe, Mr. Trump said foreigners in the United Kingdom and Ireland would soon be barred from traveling to the United States. American citizens, legal permanent residents and their family members under the age of 21 who have visited the European countries in the past two weeks are allowed to return to the United States, but airlines will rebook their flights to one of 13 designated airports.

Under the new screening rules, when travelers arrive at 13 designated airports they are to be interviewed by a Customs officer, who will also review the person’s travel history using a Homeland Security database. The officer will ask them about their current medical condition. If they don’t show symptoms, they will be asked to quarantine in their homes for 14 days. Depending on their symptoms and previous medical history, travelers could be subject to an additional screening by a medical professional at the airport. They could also be subject to a federal quarantine.

...Tim Clancy, 20, landed in Chicago on Saturday evening after returning from a study abroad program in Greece. Mr. Clancy said he had been waiting in line for nearly three hours and still had a long way to go. He was surrounded by hundreds of other passengers also waiting to get their temperatures taken.

“I’m not sure what this is doing to curb any coronavirus,” Mr. Clancy said in a phone interview while he waited. “If anyone had it, it would spread to everyone around with so many people jammed in such close quarters.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/us/airports-coronavirus.html

116margd
Mar 15, 4:09pm Top

Germany tries to stop U.S. poaching German firm seeking coronavirus vaccine
Paul Carrel, Andreas Rinke | March 15, 2020 / 7:38 AM / Updated 3 hours ago

German government sources told Reuters on Sunday that the U.S. administration was looking into how it could gain access to a potential vaccine being developed by a German firm, CureVac.

Earlier, the Welt am Sonntag German newspaper reported that U.S. President Donald Trump had offered funds to lure CureVac to the United States, and the German government was making counter-offers to tempt it to stay.

...A German Health Ministry spokeswoman, confirming a quote in the newspaper, said: “The German government is very interested in ensuring that vaccines and active substances against the new coronavirus are also developed in Germany and Europe.”

...Welt am Sonntag quoted an unidentified German government source as saying Trump was trying to secure the scientists’ work exclusively, and would do anything to get a vaccine for the United States, “but only for the United States.”

A German Economy Ministry spokeswoman said Berlin “has a great interest” in producing vaccines in Germany and Europe...

...under (Germany’s foreign trade law) Berlin can examine takeover bids from non-EU, so-called third countries “if national or European security interests are at stake”.

...The privately-held company based in Tuebingen, Germany hopes to have an experimental vaccine ready by June or July to then seek the go-ahead from regulators for testing on humans.

...CEO Daniel Menichella early this month met Trump, Vice President Mike Pence, members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force and senior representatives of pharmaceutical and biotech companies to discuss a vaccine...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-...

117margd
Mar 16, 10:08am Top

A Complete List of Trump’s Attempts to Play Down Coronavirus
David Leonhardt | March 15, 2020

He could have taken action. He didn’t.

...On Feb. 5, the C.D.C. began shipping coronavirus test kits to laboratories around the country. But the tests suffered from a technical flaw and didn’t produce reliable results, labs discovered.

The technical problems were understandable: Creating a new virus test is not easy. What’s less understandable, experts say, is why the Trump administration officials were so lax about finding a work-around, even as other countries were creating reliable tests.

The Trump administration could have begun to use a functioning test from the World Health Organization, but didn’t. It could have removed regulations that prevented private hospitals and labs from quickly developing their own tests, but didn’t. The inaction meant that the United States fell behind South Korea, Singapore and China in fighting the virus. “We just twiddled our thumbs as the coronavirus waltzed in,” William Hanage, a Harvard epidemiologist, wrote...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/opinion/trump-coronavirus.html

118margd
Mar 16, 5:55pm Top

Amid a Pandemic, Trump Moves Forward With Safety Net Cuts
Lola Fadulu and Abby Goodnough | March 13, 2020

As the coronavirus upends the economy, the Trump administration plans to make changes to the food stamp program that could lead to nearly 700,000 people losing assistance.

WASHINGTON — Despite the worsening pandemic, the Trump administration is pushing ahead with tougher work requirements for food stamps, and so far has not offered states the opportunity to cover the uninsured on an emergency basis under Medicaid.

The coronavirus appears ready to upend the economic landscape, especially for low-wage workers who could face layoffs as restaurants and entertainment venues empty, travelers hunker down, and school systems close. But so far the administration has declined to change course on its efforts to shrink the social safety net.

The Agriculture Department completed its food-stamp rule in December, arguing that the strong economy and tight labor market made it appropriate to require that unemployed, able-bodied adults without children find work to continue receiving assistance. The department estimated that nearly 700,000 people would lose their benefits under the change to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/politics/coronavirus-food-stamps-medicaid....

119margd
Mar 16, 6:02pm Top

NEW: Trump drew an angry response from some of the govs, most notably @GovMLG of NM who said:
“If one state doesn’t get the resources and materials they need, the entire nation continues to be at risk,”
- Jonathan Martin @jmartNYT | 2:42 PM · Mar 16, 2020

Trump to Governors on Ventilators: ‘Try Getting It Yourselves’

On a conference call with the nation’s governors, President Trump said they should try to get ventilators on their own ahead of an expected crush of coronavirus cases.
Jonathan Martin | March 16, 2020

...Trump: But we are backing you in terms of equipment, and getting what you need. Also, though, respirators, ventilators all of the equipment, try getting it yourselves. We will be backing you. But try getting it yourselves — point of sale — much better, much more direct if you can get it yourself.

...The suggestion surprised some of the governors, who have been scrambling to contain the outbreak and are increasingly looking to the federal government for help with equipment, personnel and financial aid. Last Wednesday, Mr. Trump directed his labor secretary to increase the availability of respirators, and he has generally played down fears of shortages.

...Governors Jay Inslee of Washington, whose state is at the epicenter of the domestic outbreak, and Michelle Lujan Grisham of New Mexico both reacted angrily to the administration’s slow response to the crisis.

“If one state doesn’t get the resources and materials they need, the entire nation continues to be at risk,” said Ms. Lujan Grisham, a Democrat...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-respirators.htm...

120Limelite
Mar 16, 7:43pm Top

>118 margd:

About his SNAP cuts that would knock nearly a million of the shameful number in this country whose lives depend on the program, his scheme to pay for his two-year-old tax cut to corporations and wealthy 3%, a federal judge stopped him cold in his corrupt tracks.
“Especially now, as a global pandemic poses widespread health risks, guaranteeing that government officials at both the federal and state levels have flexibility to address the nutritional needs of residents and ensure their well-being through programs like SNAP, is essential,” Howell wrote in her memorandum opinion, which will stop the new rule from taking effect while the case moves through the courts.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/politics/food-stamps-work-requirements-usda-rule-...

121margd
Mar 17, 6:25am Top

They were warned:

Before Trump’s inauguration, a warning: ‘The worst influenza pandemic since 1918'
NAHAL TOOSI, DANIEL LIPPMAN and DAN DIAMOND | 03/16/2020 06:48 PM EDT

Seven days before Donald Trump took office, his aides faced a major test: the rapid, global spread of a dangerous virus in cities like London and Seoul, one serious enough that some countries were imposing travel bans.

In a sober briefing, Trump’s incoming team learned that the disease was an emerging pandemic — a strain of novel influenza known as H9N2 — and that health systems were crashing in Asia, overwhelmed by the demand...

...“Health officials warn that this could become the worst influenza pandemic since 1918,” Trump’s aides were told. Soon, they heard cases were popping up in California and Texas.

The briefing was intended to hammer home a new, terrifying reality facing the Trump administration, and the incoming president’s responsibility to protect Americans amid a crisis. But unlike the coronavirus pandemic currently ravaging the globe, this 2017 crisis didn’t really happen — it was among a handful of scenarios presented to Trump’s top aides as part of a legally required transition exercise with members of the outgoing administration of Barack Obama...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pan...

122margd
Mar 18, 2:48am Top

Tariffs. FDA regs on testing--incredible in an emergency from an administration that was quickly doing away with environmental regs elsewhere in the govt.

The Infuriating Story of How the Government Stalled Coronavirus Testing
How one young doctor at a Seattle lab tried to get out in front of the coronavirus crisis by inventing his own test.
And why the absurdity of his struggle should make us all afraid.

Julia Ioffe | March 16, 2020

Alex Greninger...an epidemiologist and expert in laboratory medicine

...President Trump, who has not wanted widespread testing, apparently out of an obsession with keeping the number of confirmed COVID cases low

... a more prosaic and bureaucratic tangle of frustrations

...The FDA had granted permission to make testing kits to only one lab: the CDC. Many of those kits had, by early February, been sent to public health labs across the country—and the tests, it turned out, didn’t work.

...in addition to electronically filing (application for a preliminary Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), or permission to develop and use his own coronavirus test, Greninger) also had to print it out and mail a physical copy along with a copy burned onto a CD or saved to a thumb drive.

...FDA wanted him to run his SARS-CoV-2 test against some older viruses in his lab to make sure his test didn’t cross-react with them. The officials at the FDA instructed him to test his test against the MERS and SARS viruses, which are also coronaviruses.

...Greninger...called the CDC to inquire about getting some genetic material from a sample of SARS. The CDC, Greninger says, politely turned him down: the genetic material of the extremely contagious and deadly SARS virus was highly restricted.

...The Association of Public Health Labs sent a letter to the FDA, pleading with regulators to loosen restrictions and allow labs to start developing their own test—and was rejected.

...the first official casualty of the novel coronavirus in the United States. That day, the FDA removed the regulatory hurdles that Greninger had been trying to clear for weeks, and allowed individual labs to begin testing for the novel coronavirus.

...even as other hospitals—Johns Hopkins, Yale, George Washington University, the University of Nebraska—are finally going live with their own tests, they are encountering the same problem Baird has run up against: the supply chain.

...the reagents needed to run the tests...swabs used to swab patients’ noses and throats, the plastic vials of liquid—known as transport medium—they’re put in, the reagents used to separate out and cut the viral RNA, the other, special plastic vials into which all this is poured and distributed in the lab. There are finite stocks of all of these supplies, and neither their manufacturers nor the hospitals purchasing them were counting on a black swan event like a global pandemic. And though we are still in the pandemic’s early stages, hospitals are already running out of supplies.

Spurred on Friday by the Trump administration, the manufacturers of these vital supplies are apparently working in overdrive to make more. But the reason stocks of these supplies were so low to begin with? Trump’s trade war with China. On March 5, the Trump administration issued an exemption on these made-in-China products—including protective gear for healthcare workers, which is already scarce—but many fear it was too little, far too late.

...In the meantime, manufacturers like Roche, a massive biomedical manufacturer freed by President Trump’s move to lift restrictions on testing, said it was racing to get hundreds of thousands of test kits out to healthcare providers. Still, it takes time to fill a vast and growing need: it takes time to ship the kits, and once they arrive, they have to be tested to make sure they work before they can be used on patients. In the meantime, demand is skyrocketing.

...It turned out that the FDA hadn’t fully lifted its requirement that individual labs get permission for testing. The FDA had merely given them a grace period: labs still had to apply for the Emergency Use Authorization within 14 days of when they started testing...

https://www.gq.com/story/inside-americas-coronavirus-testing-crisis

123margd
Mar 19, 2:01pm Top

Before Virus Outbreak, a Cascade of Warnings Went Unheeded
David E. Sanger, Eric Lipton, Eileen Sullivan and Michael Crowley | March 19, 2020

Government exercises, including one last year, made clear that the U.S. was not ready for a pandemic like the coronavirus. But little was done...Many of the moments during the tabletop exercise are now chillingly familiar....

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html

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Crimson Contagion 2019 Functional Exercise Key Findings (63 pages)
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6824-2019-10-key-findings-and-after/05bd...

124Limelite
Edited: Mar 19, 8:22pm Top

The oath of office for a president demands he promise to protect the country from enemies foreign and domestic.

1) Cadet Bone Spurs insists he's a wartime president and uses war-related metaphors. Yet, as C-in-C he refuses to use the power he has after invoking the Defense Production Act this Wednesday. The US military is there to do his bidding, warehousing, loading, dispersing, and transporting materiel all over the country from any of its bases. What Would Donnie Do?
“Governors are supposed to be doing a lot of this work,” he said. “The federal government’s not supposed to be out there buying vast amounts of items and then shipping. You know, we’re not a shipping clerk. We’ll help out wherever we can.”
Being president means using the military as "shipping clerks," you demeaning twerp!

2) Cadet Bone Spurs, self-declared "first" to recognize Covid-19 a pandemic threat, and sudden convert to the reality of "threat-con 1" status from "hoax!" status in USA, saw his attempt to accuse Obama and Democrats of an infection conspiracy explode, once it was well publicized that it was he who dismantled President Obama's Pandemic Task Force in Dept. of Homeland Security. So, now President Doddering Distraction, blames the Chinese in a racist mindless spew of vindictive deflection from his inadequacy in this crisis, calling Covid-19 the "Chinese" virus. It was an American who brought the virus into the US, not any Chinese. And the disease is all over the world not because of the Chinese but because all kinds of people coughing on airlines and in hotels spread viruses in a pandemic.

3) Because he's a vain white supremacist, he refuses to buy respirators from China in the midst of a critical shortage when none are available to distribute nationally in the numbers anticipated will be needed. Instead he's "considering" having Ford and Tesla manufacture them, assuring they'll be ready in 18 months. On that schedule, he should consider having the car makers make steel coffins! Being president means you master the logistical needs of a crisis and issue appropriate orders to meet them immediately.

Another lesser fool framed our situation aptly in another hot war. Substitute but one word and it applies, "You go to war with the president you have, not the president you might want or wish to have at a later time." All we have to do is survive the "leadership" of a waddling waffler of word salad who will forever be remembered for saying of American citizens, in effect, "Let them eat coronavirus!"

125margd
Mar 26, 7:44am Top

The Coronavirus Is the Worst Intelligence Failure in U.S. History
It’s more glaring than Pearl Harbor and 9/11—and it’s all the fault of Donald Trump’s leadership.
Micah Zenko | March 25, 2020

...Most leaders lack the discipline to do routine risk-based horizon scanning, and fewer still develop the requisite contingency plans. Even rarer is the leader who has the foresight to correctly identify the top threat far enough in advance to develop and implement those plans.

Suffice it to say, the Trump administration has cumulatively failed, both in taking seriously the specific, repeated intelligence community warnings about a coronavirus outbreak and in vigorously pursuing the nationwide response initiatives commensurate with the predicted threat. The federal government alone has the resources and authorities to lead the relevant public and private stakeholders to confront the foreseeable harms posed by the virus. Unfortunately, Trump officials made a series of judgments (minimizing the hazards of COVID-19) and decisions (refusing to act with the urgency required) that have needlessly made Americans far less safe.

In short, the Trump administration forced a catastrophic strategic surprise onto the American people. But unlike past strategic surprises—Pearl Harbor, the Iranian revolution of 1979, or especially 9/11—the current one was brought about by unprecedented indifference, even willful negligence...

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/25/coronavirus-worst-intelligence-failure-us-h...

126margd
Edited: Mar 26, 3:56pm Top

Laurence Tribe tribelaw| 1:43 PM · Mar 26, 2020
Trump is ensuring the avoidable death of countless New Yorkers by deliberately sitting on 20,000 urgently needed ventilators so he can blame Cuomo. His moral culpability is that of a murderer even though the law doesn’t call him one.

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New York Gov. Cuomo calls his state 'canary in coalmine' as he pleads with Trump administration for ventilators
Greg Robb |March 24, 2020

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday made an impassioned plea for thousands of ventilators to be sent to his state within the next 14 days to deal with an expected severe shortage given the wave of patients expected to be infected with the coronavirus. He urged the Trump administration to use the Defense Production Act to get corporations to produce the equipment. And the government should also send the state the 20,000 ventilators now in a federal stockpile, he said. Cuomo said New York is the "canary in the coalmine" with 25,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus. Ventilators are seen as a key to recovery because they help a patient breathe while battling the infection.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-york-governor-cuomo-makes-impassioned-plea...

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Cuomo expresses outrage at FEMA for sending New York 400 ventilators when it needs at least 30,000: "You pick the 26,000 people who are going to die because you only sent 400 ventilators." https://cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-latest-news-deaths...
0:08 https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1242479749831819264
- CBS News @CBSNews | 11:53 AM · Mar 24, 2020

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NY Gov. Cuomo asking other states to loan him the ventilators his state needs because he says NY will peak first. Cuomo says he’ll be personally responsible for the equipment and, when the time comes, he’ll travel to the states that help NY. He will teach what he is learning now.
- Martha @MarthaMyrick | 11:45 AM · Mar 25, 2020
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Trump says if states want the federal government to be a good partner to them in fighting coronavirus, "they have to treat us well."
https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/1242536323870855174

Just weeks ago Trump tied punitive policies he'd imposed on New Yorkers to the state's criminal investigations of him and his businesses.

It's probably worth drawing Trump out on this. Is there a favor the federal government needs from NY in exchange for the ventilators? Bagels? Advice on building a federal subway? What favor does the federal government need?

We didn't just imagine everything we knew about Trump before COVID-19. He was impeached for stealing federal aid dollars to extort a personal political favor from a government. Now his leverage is ventilators.

Soon it will be hundreds of billions of dollars in bailout money.

That sounds an awful lot like a quid pro quo, but I was told by Susan Collins that Trump had learned his lesson, so it can't be that....

- subscribe to my newsletter@brianbeutler | 3:38 PM · Mar 24, 2020

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Image ( https://twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/1228044057999441921/photo/1 )

You may be wondering why Trump wants to shut down NY lawsuits and investigations.

Here's an incomplete list:
-NY DA sued for tax returns
-NY AG forced $2 mil settlement for misuse of Trump charity
-SDNY & EDNY are investigating inaugural
-NY AG is investigating Trump Org loans

- Citizens for Ethics @CREWcrew | 2:51 PM · Feb 13, 2020

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margd: and Trump is liable to NY law when term complete--no ifs, ands, or pardons...

127Limelite
Mar 26, 7:55pm Top

The danger of lifting an empty-headed empty suit to the presidency. From today's post Coronavirus Task Force presser re-election rally Q & A:
Trump flops after being asked what he’s doing to protect Asian-Americans from hate crimes: ‘I don’t know.’
Sounds like your average low IQ teen-aged mouth breather talking.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trump-flops-after-being-asked-what-hes-doing-to...

128margd
Mar 27, 12:04pm Top

Beyond Narcissism, Trump’s Other Personality Flaws Are Putting Americans at Risk
His obsession with revenge and his fatalism are endangering the nation.
David Corn | 3/27/2020

......During the coronavirus pandemic, Trump has employed his bully pulpit to slam his perceived foes in the media and the political world. He has exploded at reporters who have dared pose tough questions about his response. He even lashed out at a journalist who tossed him a softball. Trump posted a nasty tweet about Mitt Romney, the only Republican senator who voted to convict Trump at his impeachment trial, when Romney tested negative for the coronavirus.

More disturbing, Trump has applied his get-even rule to his dealings with governors confronting the crisis. After Washington Gov. Jay Inslee in late February said, “Our work would be more successful if the Trump administration stuck to the science and told the truth,” Trump struck back. While visiting the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, he huffed, “I told Mike Pence not to be complimentary of that governor because that governor is a snake. So Mike may be happy with him but I’m not, OK?” That was Trump getting even. And when Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York noted that the federal government only sent his state 400 ventilators when it needed 30,000, Trump responded with a threat. He told Fox, “It’s a two-way street, they have to treat us well also.” Here Trump was suggesting that complaints from Cuomo would be met with vengeance, presumably the withholding of assistance...

...Over the years, Trump has also exhibited a troubling fatalism. This has primarily been in regard to the possibility of nuclear war. In a 1990 interview with Playboy, he was asked to describe his “longer-term views of the future.” Trump replied, “I think of the future, but I refuse to paint it. Anything can happen. But I often think of nuclear war.” He then explained that he thought nuclear war was inevitable: “I believe the greatest of all stupidities is people’s believing it will never happen…What bullshit.” In other interviews, Trump has indicated nuclear war was likely to occur. On one occasion, he noted that because of this he preferred to “really live very much for the present.”...

...an effective commander in chief at war needs to possess certain qualities. He must be able to put national interests ahead of his own. He must unite a nation and transcend political rivalries. He must motivate the citizenry and inspire bravery, resilience, and hope. A narcissist fixated on revenge who holds a dark and apocalyptic view of the future is not the man for the job. Trump does not have the necessary psychological tools for this mission. To the extent this nation survives the coronavirus attack, it will be because governors, mayors, other local officials, and courageous first responders and front-line health care workers beat back the virus and save those American lives they can. Trump cannot be the wartime president Americans require at this horrific moment. He’s not that kind of human being.

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1243312554753110022

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At a time when terrified Americans are looking to the media for information and hoping for cooperation from their leaders at all levels on their behalf,
the president gives us ... this.
From JM Rieger 1:29 ( https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1243312554753110022 )

- Kevin M. Kruse @KevinMKruse | 7:03 PM · Mar 26, 2020

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Trump: "I don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You know, you go into major hospitals sometimes and they'll have two ventilators. Now all of a sudden they're saying, 'Can we order 30,000 ventilators?'"
- Kaitlan Collins @kaitlancollins | 9:55 PM · Mar 26, 2020

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David Frum @davidfrum | 8:20 AM · Mar 27, 2020:
This is vintage Trump. To redirect anger away from his own mismanagement, he tried to rebrand coronavirus "Chinese virus."

Then the substitute target flexed its muscle.
So Trump reversed himself and is now deferring to China again, as he did through December and January.

Quote Tweet
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 9h
Just finished a very good conversation with President Xi of China.
Discussed in great detail the CoronaVirus that is ravaging large parts of our Planet.
China has been through much & has developed a strong understanding of the Virus.
We are working closely together. Much respect!

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129johnthefireman
Mar 28, 5:07am Top

Trump is trying to stop people from seeing this ad on his response to coronavirus (Guardian)

Lawyers have sent cease and desist letters to stop stations from airing the video, which edits together Trump’s statements downplaying the crisis...

130margd
Mar 28, 8:00am Top

Trump Signs $2 Trillion Coronavirus Stimulus Bill After Swift Passage by House
wsj.com

President Trump "has told people he wants his signature to appear on the direct payment checks," the WSJ
reports. "Normally, a civil servant—the disbursing officer for the payment center—would sign federal checks."

- David Gura davidgura | 8:18 PM · Mar 27, 2020

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.@KlasfeldReports read Trump's signing statement for the $2 trillion package and
notes that the president is already trying to cut Congress out of oversight.
See here that the WH considers Congressional input into $$$ oversight cmte as a suggestion not law
Image ( https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/1243679056660434944/photo/1 )

- Tim Mak @timkmak | 7:19 PM · Mar 27, 2020

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Trump is such a petty man. This signing ceremony would have been the perfect moment to show Democrats and Republicans together in the fight for our shared health and economic interests. He chose another path.
- Michael McFaul McFaul | 5:07 PM · Mar 27, 2020

Pence begins his remarks with effusive praise of Trump
00:16 ( https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1243642535882481666 )
- Aaron Rupar @atrupar4:54 PM · Mar 27, 2020

"Mr. President, thank you very much for your leadership ... you made it very clear to us that we should think big, that this is a war on the virus"
-- Mnuchin also makes sure to lead with praise of Trump
0:22 ( https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1243643041426137094 )
- Aaron Rupar @atrupar | 4:56 PM · Mar 27, 2020

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"(Trump is) so attentive to the scientific literature & the details & the data. I think his ability to analyze & integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit” -- this is shocking, hackish stuff from Dr. Birx.
0:54 ( https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1243556939369496576 )
From Dan Diamond
- Aaron Rupar @atrupar11:14 AM · Mar 27, 2020

131margd
Edited: Mar 28, 8:22am Top

(Michigan Governor) Whitmer: Feds told vendors not to send medical supplies to Michigan
Chad Livengood | March 27, 2020

"... we need help and at the very least we don't need people standing in our way from getting," Gov. Gretchen Whitmer..."When the federal government told us that we needed to go it ourselves, we started procuring every item we could get our hands on...What I've gotten back is that vendors with whom we had contracts are now being told not to send stuff here to Michigan. It's really concerning."

...strongly implied the order came from President Donald Trump's administration.

"We've entered into a number of contracts and as we are getting closer to the date when shipments are supposed to come in, they're getting canceled or they're getting delayed...We've been told they're going first to the federal government."

The governor's office could not provide any additional information Friday afternoon substantiating Whitmer's allegation.

(Thursday night) Whitmer told WWJ that she reached out to the White House ...asking "for a phone call with the president, ironically at the same time that all of this other stuff was going on."

(Thursday night) Trump called into Sean Hannity's Fox News program..."Your governor of Michigan, I mean, she's not stepping up," Trump said, who referred to Whitmer as "a woman governor" and not by her name. "I don't know if she knows what's going on, but all she does is sit there and blame the federal government. She doesn't get it done. And we send her a lot."

(Friday evening)... Trump said he's instructed Vice President Mike Pence, "don't call the woman in Michigan...If they don't treat you right, I don't call..."(Pence) is a different type of person. He'll call quietly anyway."

...Monday, Whitmer said one unnamed hospital received a shipment last weekend from the federal government (stockpile) of 747 N95 protective masks, 204 gowns, 40,467 gloves and 64 face shields..."With the exception of the gloves, that allotment of PPE didn't cover one shift"... the state needs 400,000 N95 protective medical masks each day for the next several weeks to keep up with demand..."The fact of the matter remains, we need help and at the very least we don't need people standing in our way from getting...We're working incredibly hard. But these are serious times."

Crain's sought clarity from Whitmer's office midday Friday and the names of vendors under contract that the governor referenced. Whitmer's spokeswoman had no additional information.

..."For the doctors and nurses who are wearing one mask for the whole shift, who are worried about their own personal health but are still treating the sick and the fragile, it's crucial that everyone does their part," she said. "That includes individuals staying homes, it includes businesses that can help manufacture this (personal protection equipment) that there's too little of and it includes the federal government who we need partnership from."

https://www.crainsdetroit.com/coronavirus/whitmer-feds-told-vendors-not-send-med...

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“Now you may be asking yourself,
‘How much damage can he really do in the next several months until the election?’
A lot, a lot of damage” (Adam Schiff, Jan 2020)

https://twitter.com/blakesmustache/status/1243536022090252293

- Uncle Blazer @blakesmustache9:51 AM · Mar 27, 2020

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“What would you think if, when your governor asked the federal government for the disaster assistance that Congress has provided,
the President responded, ‘I would like you to do us a favor.’ I’ll... send the disaster relief once you brand my opponent a criminal.”
( Pamela Karlan, Dec 2019 )

2:04 ( https://twitter.com/HouseJudiciary/status/1202271057253687297 )

- House Judiciary Dems
@HouseJudiciary 11:58 AM · Dec 4, 2019

132margd
Edited: Mar 29, 3:56pm Top

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump | 1:06 PM · Mar 29, 2020:
Because the “Ratings” of my News Conferences etc. are so high,
“Bachelor finale, Monday Night Football type numbers” according to the @nytimes,
the Lamestream Media is going CRAZY. “Trump is reaching too many people, we must stop him.” said one lunatic. See you at 5:00 P.M.!

George Conway @gtconway3d | 1:10 PM · Mar 29, 2020:
Who would have thought that a cheesy reality show featuring a pandemic killing thousands would be such a big ratings hit!
And that the host would brag about it!

Red Physical Distancing Champion @Redpainter1 | 1:39 PM · Mar 29, 2020
dead bodies are piling up in refrigerated trucks in front of NYC hospitals and this fucking sociopath is bragging about *ratings*

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump | 1:48 PM · Mar 29, 2020:
“President Trump is a ratings hit. Since reviving the daily White House briefing Mr. Trump and his coronavirus updates have attracted an average audience of 8.5 million on cable news, roughly the viewership of the season finale of ‘The Bachelor.’ Numbers are continuing to rise...

...On Monday, nearly 12.2 million people watched Mr. Trump’s briefing on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC, according to Nielsen — ‘Monday Night Football’ numbers. Millions more are watching on ABC, CBS, NBC and online streaming sites, and the audience is expanding. On Monday, Fox News...

...alone attracted 6.2 million viewers for the president’s briefing — an astounding number for a 6 p.m. cable broadcast, more akin to the viewership for a popular prime-time sitcom...

...The CBS News poll said 13 percent of Republicans trusted the news media for information about the virus.” Michael M. Grynbaum @NYTimes

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Dec. 7, 1941 attack led to 2,403 deaths (Pearl Harbor),
Sept. 11, 2001 led to 2,997 deaths (9/11),
2020 #CoronaTrump is at 2,363 death.

Fauci: Up to 200,000!
Thanks for this "hoax", @realDonaldTrump

- Tobias Sommermatter @sommermatter | 1:54 PM · Mar 29, 2020

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A Nurse Shared A Harrowing Photo Of COVID-19 Victims To Show How Horrifying The Outbreak Is
“It is the ghastly reality of what we deal with and where some of us have ended up already,” the New York City nurse said.
Miriam Elder | March 29, 2020

https://twitter.com/svdate/status/1244310272292130817/photo/1

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/miriamelder/coronavirus-new-york-city-hospi...

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NYC ambulances as busy as on Sept 11...

N.Y.C.’s 911 System Is Overwhelmed. ‘I’m Terrified,’ a Paramedic Says.
Ali Watkins | March 28, 2020

With coronavirus cases mounting, emergency workers are making life-or-death decisions about who goes to a hospital, and who is left behind.
In a matter of days, New York City’s 911 system was overwhelmed by calls for medical distress seemingly related to the coronavirus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-ems.html

133LolaWalser
Mar 29, 3:46pm Top

bragging about *ratings*

No... words...

He's really just a talking pig's backside--all of him--back to front and top down and all round. An asshole in the vague shape of a human.

134Crypto-Willobie
Mar 30, 12:39am Top

>133 LolaWalser:
You're being too kind...

135johnthefireman
Edited: Mar 30, 12:57am Top

>133 LolaWalser: a talking pig's backside--all of him--back to front and top down and all round. An asshole in the vague shape of a human.

Interestingly, that's how British satirist Steve Bell portrays Boris Johnson, with a pair of buttocks as his face, poking out from his suit collar and crowned with his mop of unruly hair.

136johnthefireman
Mar 30, 1:01am Top

While on the topic of names for Trump, I have to say that I love the term "Orange Shitegibbon" which I read in one of these LT threads recently - can't remember who used it. It's so evocative. It rolls off the tongue so easily. It has stuck in my mind like one of those tunes which you just can't stop humming to yourself, and I keep finding myself thinking "Orange Shitegibbon". Lovely jubbly.

137RickHarsch
Mar 30, 6:57am Top

>137 RickHarsch: The American English, I think, in this particular works better, allowing a bit of interior rhyme. Try it: shitgibbon.

Though, my affection for the gibbon prevents me from fully enjoying it.

138margd
Mar 30, 7:15am Top

From the department of "no good deed goes unpunished".

I assume Trump (threatening to) invoke Defense Production Act (DPA) on GM was based on
1. default negotiating & contracting style (bully, cheat, renege, etc.)
2. desire to deflect criticism over medical equipment
2. anger at GM closing Lordstown plant
3. attempt to grab any glory
4. ignorance, as always...

He might think GM Chief Executive Mary Barra (a woman!) would be a pushover?

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Trump's attack on GM over ventilators quickly turns to praise
David Shepardson | March 29, 2020

...GM’s manufacturing chief, Gerald Johnson, told Reuters the company aims to produce 10,000 ventilators (in its Kokomo, Indiana plant) a month by summer...need U.S. regulatory approval, significant testing and that the company must train over 1,000 workers to assemble them...working with ventilator firm Ventec Life Systems, numerous auto suppliers and other ventilator firms...“We’re unwavering in our focus to get this done”...doing the project “at cost” and will not make a profit...total retooling costs were in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

...Tony Fratto, a former deputy press secretary under President George W. Bush, tweeted on Friday: “you have to think if GM HADN’T stepped up to TRY to make ventilators no one would be trying to force them to make them. No one’s banging on other random companies today.”

Other automakers have said they are working to produce ventilators, masks and other medical equipment. Ford Motor Co said Friday it was moving as fast as it could to gear up its ventilator manufacturing efforts. Toyota Motor Corp is working with “at least two companies that produce ventilators and respirators to help increase their capacity.”

GM will also begin producing surgical masks at a plant in Michigan this week and expects to produce 50,000 a day by mid-April.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-trump-ventilators/trumps-a...

139lriley
Mar 30, 8:37am Top

The day Trump drops dead is going to be a ding dong day.

140Crypto-Willobie
Mar 30, 9:36am Top

>139 lriley:
Yeah, I don't usually go that far, but I agree...

141johnthefireman
Mar 31, 12:15am Top

Trump suggests US should treat Germany as an enemy because of World War II (Independent)

Donald Trump is suggesting the United States should treat Germany more like an enemy because the two countries were adversaries in World War II as the president again lobbied for closer US-Russian relations.

If he turns the off-the-cuff remark into US policy, Mr Trump would try fundamentally overhauling the post-World War II global power dynamic that saw Western countries bring Germany into their sphere while combating Moscow and fighting the spread of communism in the post-war era. But with little opposition to the American-German alliance in Congress, especially the GOP-run Senate, such a plan would face ample pushback – including from within his own party...

142RickHarsch
Mar 31, 2:08am Top

Too bad those in power during the last years of the war and those immediately after didn't share that sentiment. Might have avoided a cold war, hired fewer Nazis, allowed the French to punish Klaus Barbie, allowed Italy and Greece and Poland to determine their own futures...

143Crypto-Willobie
Mar 31, 2:34am Top

"Whatever you do, don't mention the war..."

(It's like having Bozo the clown in the final stages of dementia running the country...)

145margd
Mar 31, 5:43am Top

(John Cleese's tie is SO un-Trumpian!)

Perhaps Puppetmaster Putin sees that his puppet's term is coming to a close and has a few more items on his list?
Break up the alliance? Great Britain's been split off from EU. Turkey. Germany's next?

146margd
Mar 31, 4:45pm Top

Wartime Production Law Has Been Used Routinely, but Not With Coronavirus
Zolan Kanno-Youngs and Ana Swanson | March 31, 2020

WASHINGTON — Chemicals used to construct military missiles. Materials needed to build drones. Body armor for agents patrolling the southwest border. Equipment for natural disaster response.

A Korean War-era law called the Defense Production Act has been invoked hundreds of thousands of times by President Trump and his administration to ensure the procurement of vital equipment, according to reports submitted to Congress and interviews with former government officials.

Yet as governors and members of Congress plead with the president to use the law to force the production of ventilators and other medical equipment to combat the coronavirus pandemic, he has for weeks treated it like a “break the glass” last resort, to be invoked only when all else fails.

“You know, we’re a country not based on nationalizing our business,” Mr. Trump said earlier this month. “Call a person over in Venezuela, ask them how did nationalization of their businesses work out? Not too well.”...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/us/politics/coronavirus-defense-production-ac...

147Limelite
Mar 31, 9:19pm Top

Why is he still president? Is it the money he's funneling to his Cabinet from the sale of medical supplies desperately needed in the US to foreign governments? Is it the skimmings he's taking from FEMA for every respirator they buy from China and cut a blue state governor out of the bidding? Is it the electoral college votes he thinks he's locking up in FL and TX (got a US Appeals Court to reinstate the abortion hiatus) and MS? Is it his fear to LOSE an election that makes him conspire to divide the country, turn one against another, spread lies and confusion, and agitate racists to the point that they seem eager for civil war?

Why is he still president?

148johnthefireman
Apr 1, 12:45am Top

Trump administration revokes tribe’s reservation status in ‘power grab’ (Guardian)

A tribe is losing reservation status for its more than 300 acres in Massachusetts, raising fears among Native American groups that other tribes could face the same fate under the Trump administration.

The Mashpee Wampanoag tribe, which traces its ancestry to the Native Americans that shared a fall harvest meal with the Pilgrims in 1621, was notified late on Friday by the federal Bureau of Indian Affairs that it will be rescinding its reservation designation and removing the land from federal trust...

149johnthefireman
Apr 2, 12:26am Top

Trump on coronavirus: Heated response to 'snarky, nasty question' (BBC)

Donald Trump has launched a scathing attack on a CNN journalist who reminded the US president "of the way you downplayed this (coronavirus) crisis over the last couple of months."

When the journalist read Mr Trump previous comments he had made on the pandemic, the president said: "I don't want panic in the country. I could cause panic, much better than even you, I could make you look like a minor league player"...

150Crypto-Willobie
Apr 2, 10:16pm Top

>149 johnthefireman:

#TheWarOnThanksgiving?

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