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BingoDOG Planning Thread

2020 Category Challenge

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1christina_reads
Edited: Nov 1, 1:01pm Top

It's that time of year again -- time to start thinking about next year's Bingo card! If you'd like to contribute suggestions for one or more of the Bingo card squares, please post your suggestions to this thread, or send me a private message if you prefer.

Suggestions will be open until November 15; this date should correspond to the end of the CAT voting, which may affect what people want to suggest for Bingo. At that time I'll collect all the suggestions, combine any duplicates, and post the complete list for everyone's consideration. If there are more than 24 suggestions, we'll find a way collectively to narrow them down. I'm hoping to have two or three Bingo cards ready no later than mid-December.

I hope you're as excited about the BingoDOG as I am, and I look forward to seeing your suggestions!

Suggestions for the Bingo card (to be filled in as they are made):

Book with a number in the title
Book that's in a Legacy Library
Book written by an LT author
Work published in a year ending in "20" (e.g., 1920, 1820, 1720)
River or lake in title (or plays an important role)
Book published the year of your birth
Part of a series
Book in translation
Children's book
Book featuring an animal/animal in the title
Book about nature
Published under a pen name or anonymously
Book set in Asia
Book bullet
Written by a woman
Book of short-form works (short stories, essays, etc.)
Book involving food or cooking
A mystery
Book involving a real historical event (fiction or nonfiction)
Favorite book from childhood
Book by or about Jane Austen
Winner of a major prize
Book involving music
Book about books, bookstores, or libraries
LGBT topic or character
Book with at least three letters of BINGO consecutively in order in the title (BIN, ING, NGO, GOB, OBI...the letters can cross words but must be in order and be consecutive)
Red cover, or red is prominent on the cover
Book featuring a party (birthday party, cocktail party, etc.)
Book becoming a movie in 2020
Debut novel
Book by an American author
Book by a British author
Title contains a pun
Book concerning human aging
True crime
Book about childbearing (midwife, non-fiction, etc.)
Book you have seen somebody (unknown to you) read in public
Book with a proper name in the title
Book published by a small press or self-published
Book published in 2020
Epistolary or collection of letters
Book by a woman author who won an award in 2019
Book by a journalist or about journalism
Book not set on earth
Book on LT with fewer than 100 reviews
Mythology or folklore
Weird book title
Book with "library" or "thing" in the title or subtitle
Book with a periodic table element in the title
Book by a woman from a country other than the US/UK

2majkia
Oct 15, 10:24am Top

Read a book with a number in the title.

3EMS_24
Oct 15, 10:54am Top

A book that's in a Legacy Library
A book written by a LT author

just surfing by, take it or leave it :)

4sallylou61
Edited: Oct 15, 12:54pm Top

Title first published in 1920. (Using title instead of book to include other genres such as individual plays, essays, etc.) — or title first published in year ending in 20 to include 1820, 1720, etc.

5MissWatson
Oct 15, 1:20pm Top

A book with a river or lake in the title, or where a river plays an important role.

6Helenliz
Oct 15, 1:25pm Top

A book published the year of your birth.

7EBT1002
Oct 15, 1:45pm Top

A book that is part of a series (this would be an easy square, I know).

8christina_reads
Oct 15, 2:13pm Top

>7 EBT1002: It's good to have a few easy squares, in my opinion! :)

9EBT1002
Edited: Oct 15, 2:22pm Top

>8 christina_reads: I think so too!

Here's another (perhaps not as easy but still with lots of possibilities): Read a book in translation.

ETA: I should probably add that I can get a bit manic on things like this -- I love to brainstorm. I'm certainly not wedded or emotionally invested in my suggestions making the final cut. :-)

10LadyoftheLodge
Oct 15, 4:34pm Top

A children's book
A book featuring an animal

11VivienneR
Oct 15, 5:37pm Top

A book about nature.

12Montarville
Oct 15, 5:48pm Top

A book published under a pen name or anonymously.

13LittleTaiko
Oct 15, 6:54pm Top

A book set in Asia.

14LibraryCin
Oct 15, 7:58pm Top

For the moment, I'm commenting to follow along. I may or may not come up with something to add! :-)

15sallylou61
Edited: Oct 15, 10:39pm Top

>1 christina_reads: Would you change Work published in 1920 to work published in year ending with 20 (1920, 1820, 1720, etc.).

Thanks

16Helenliz
Oct 16, 9:51am Top

Read a book bullet (not that I have very many that would fit this category - oh no!)
Read a book by a woman
A book of short form works (stories/essays etc)

>9 EBT1002: me too, I could come up with a load of ideas, so feel free to ignore me at any time >:-)

17christina_reads
Oct 16, 9:51am Top

>15 sallylou61: Sure!

Thanks, everyone -- some really great suggestions here!

18LadyoftheLodge
Edited: Oct 16, 10:59am Top

A book involving food or cooking
A mystery
A book involving a historical event (fiction or nonfiction title)
Fave book from childhood
Book by/about Jane Austen

19VivienneR
Oct 16, 5:48pm Top

Winner of a major prize.

20VivienneR
Oct 16, 5:58pm Top

A book involving music
A book about books, bookstores or libraries
A book with an LGBT topic or character

21EBT1002
Oct 17, 12:57am Top

A book with at least three letters of BINGO consecutively in order in the title.

BIN (not bad)
ING (easy)
NGO (hard to tell)
GOB (um...)
OBI (the letters can cross words but must be in order and must be consecutive)

22christina_reads
Oct 17, 10:06am Top

I'm loving all the creative suggestions! I've added one of my own: a book with a red cover, or where red is prominent on the cover.

Looks like we are going to have more than enough choices to create the Bingo cards! :)

23VivienneR
Oct 17, 2:38pm Top

>22 christina_reads: I like this, red is my favourite colour.

24LibraryCin
Oct 17, 10:29pm Top

>21 EBT1002: Oh, I love that idea!

25DeltaQueen50
Oct 18, 12:59am Top

Thank you so much Christina for setting this up. I love the Bingo Dog and look forward to it. Looks like we have loads of great suggestions!

26JayneCM
Oct 18, 1:23am Top

Book featuring a party - birthday party, cocktail party, etc.
Book becoming a movie in 2020.
A debut novel.

27LadyoftheLodge
Oct 18, 6:53pm Top

We have so many great ideas here, and many that I had not thought about. I love the red cover idea, and also the books/bookstores idea.

28LadyoftheLodge
Oct 18, 7:21pm Top

A few more thoughts:
Book by an American author
Book by a British author
Title contains a pun

29cyderry
Oct 19, 11:25pm Top

A fictional book with an actual event used as part of the plot.

Example: The Dressmaker is set on the Titantic.

30sallylou61
Oct 20, 1:20pm Top

Book concerning human aging. Could be about the biological aspects of aging, psychology of aging, written by an older author (say over the age of 65 or so), primarily featuring an elderly character, etc. I got this idea from the topic suggested for a CAT, which turned out to not be about human aging at all. I thought of suggesting it for a CAT, but could not think of enough aspects to last for a whole year.

31LibraryCin
Oct 20, 3:05pm Top

>30 sallylou61: I do think it sounds like a good category for BingoDOG!

32JayneCM
Oct 20, 11:30pm Top

>29 cyderry: I love this idea! One of my categories for next year is novels based on real people, so similar.

33tess_schoolmarm
Oct 21, 12:35pm Top

True crime, book about child bearing (midwife, non-fiction, etc.) book you have seen somebody (unknown to you) read in public

34cyderry
Edited: Oct 21, 8:18pm Top

I took the suggestions above and compared it to the BINGO card for 2019 and found these that we have already done. I highlighted the description on the 2019 BINGO CARD.

Book with a number in the title
Book that's in a Legacy Library
Book written by an LT author
Work published in a year ending in "20"
River or lake in title (or plays an important role)
Book published the year of your birth
Part of a series Part of a series
Book in translation Book in translation
Children's book Children’s/YA book, or reread a childhood favorite
Book featuring an animal Animal on cover/in title/plays a significant role
Book about nature
Published under a pen name or anonymously
Book set in Asia
Book bullet Read a book bullet
Written by a woman
Book of short-form works (short stories, essays, etc.) Short stories or essays
Book involving food or cooking Food-related title or topic
A mystery
Book involving a real historical event (fiction or nonfiction)
Favorite book from childhood Children’s/YA book, or reread a childhood favorite
Book by or about Jane Austen
Winner of a major prize Prize-winning book
Book involving music
Book about books, bookstores, or libraries
LGBT topic or character
Book with at least three letters of BINGO consecutively
Red cover, or red is prominent on the cover
Book featuring a party (birthday party, cocktail party, etc.)
Book becoming a movie in 2020 Book made into a movie
Debut novel Debut novel
Book by an American author
Book by a British author
Title contains a pun
Book concerning human aging
True crime
Book about childbearing (midwife, non-fiction, etc.)
Book you have seen somebody (unknown to you) read in public

So of the 37 suggestions (so far) 11 seem to be duplicates of this year.

35LibraryCin
Oct 21, 9:27pm Top

>34 cyderry: So, even if we cut out the duplicates from this year, we have more than enough already!!

36EBT1002
Oct 21, 11:00pm Top

A book with a proper name in the title.

Inspired by Ordinary Grace and Alias Grace. But there are so many more!

37EBT1002
Oct 21, 11:02pm Top

>34 cyderry: It may have been 2018 but I think we've done "Book you have seen somebody (unknown to you) read in public" before, too. I don't mind but it is harder for those of us in more rural areas. I remember riding on the light rail in Seattle (where I lived in 2018) and trying to see what other commuters were reading. :-)

38cyderry
Oct 21, 11:22pm Top

If we look at the 2018 BINGO card the following are again in this year's list:

River or lake in title (or plays an important role) (2018 - body of water)
Book in translation - 2 yrs in a row
Book about nature - (2018 - book about environment)
Book involving food or cooking - (2018 - food was important)
Book involving music - (2018 musical theme_)
LGBT topic or character - (2018 LGBT Central Character)
Book with a number in the title - (2018 Book with a number in the title)

Here are 7 more duplicates. If we eliminate these, then we still need a few fresh ideas.

I personally prefer not to have translation, LGBT, short stories, or music.
They're just areas that I don't read so I've never been able to fill the BINGO card.
I think that old, old books also could be a problem for some, maybe not having access to that number of books.

39Helenliz
Oct 22, 1:16am Top

>37 EBT1002: Agree, it's a nice idea, but I remember people having a problem with that one. Finding someone reading a book in public is fairly rare if you don't take a form of mass transport regularly. I know I resorted to a book someone else had seen being read in public.

I'm not sure that duplicates are necessarily a bad thing. There are only a limited number of ideas out there; if we can't re-use them, we're going to make the Bingo card increasingly difficult to fill with ideas, let alone books.

40MissWatson
Oct 22, 5:07am Top

The re-used topics are the ones which fit best into our reading habits, I suppose, and can therefore be easily filled. But I think quite a few of the newly suggested ones also fit that bill, so we could try to avoid repeats.

41dudes22
Oct 22, 8:11am Top

I don't mind some repeats, but maybe not two years in a row. I like that some squares will stretch my reading into books/genres I might not normally read.

42christina_reads
Oct 22, 9:14am Top

This is a useful discussion! Obviously we're going to have to narrow down the list, since we already have more than enough suggestions to fill a Bingo card. (Unless we want to do two Bingo cards with different squares?) So I guess the question will be HOW we narrow it down. A few ideas:

- Eliminate squares we've done in 2019
- Eliminate squares we've done in any previous year
- Vote on which squares we'd like to omit
- Eliminate squares randomly
- Come to a general consensus without officially voting (which is what we did for the 2019 Bingo)

Any other suggestions for a limiting strategy? I figure we can vote on the best way to narrow down the list. But I want to wait until all the suggestions are in on 11/15 before we start eliminating any.

43DeltaQueen50
Oct 22, 11:50am Top

I like the idea of eliminating squares that we just did in the last year, but after that allow them to go back into rotation. I hesitate to the voting for each square, it takes so much time - I think we can agree to a general consensus through discussions and then allow Christina to fine tune the final result. I am also not in favor of more than one Bingo Card per year.

44MissWatson
Oct 22, 2:13pm Top

>43 DeltaQueen50: I'll second that.

45LadyoftheLodge
Edited: Oct 22, 3:23pm Top

>43 DeltaQueen50: Sounds like a good strategy, ditto all the ideas.
I also have a hard time with translation, LGBTQ, (I just don't read those categories often) and the one about seeing someone else reading a book. I also do not use mass transit unless I am flying, so it is hard to get this one.

46RidgewayGirl
Oct 22, 3:52pm Top

Would it be possible to weed out the suggestions that were on 2019's card?

Two suggestions:

A book published by a small press

A book published in 2020

47sallylou61
Oct 22, 4:19pm Top

We have had BingoDOGs since 2015, and in 2016 we had two since we had a Woman's BingoPUP. A number of the suggestions keep popping up. Do you think that we should examine the wikis, and eliminate any category that has appeared say three or more times (if there are any). I'm willing to do such a comparison and report back.

48dudes22
Edited: Oct 22, 6:40pm Top

If the number of suggestions ends up being more than 25, I'd be happy if you just put them in a hat and pulled out 25. (or 24 if the middle square is still "read a Cat" or a free square). I agree that voting takes too long.

49Kristelh
Edited: Oct 22, 7:38pm Top

I might duplicate some above and if I do I apologize.

Ideas:
epistolary or collection of letters
A book by a woman author who won an award in 2019
A book by a journalist or about journalism
A book not set on earth
A book on LT with fewer than 100 reviews.
A book with an animal in the title
Mythology or folklore

I also would prefer to not have to have LGBTQ as a category. A person can put that into any category, same with translation. I also do not use mass transit and seldom fly.
I do like a book published by a small press

50Montarville
Oct 22, 9:35pm Top

I would also be in favour of not having the same prompts two years in a row. I guess we all have our favourites and those we like less. Contrary to others, I would gladly take "in translation" every year, but I will happily leave it out for a year or two or three if it means that we also leave out the ones I like less (i.e. "food", "animal" and "made into a movie").

51LibraryCin
Oct 22, 9:44pm Top

>43 DeltaQueen50: I like the idea of eliminating squares that we just did in the last year, but after that allow them to go back into rotation.

I agree with this. It's hard to eliminate every one we've ever done.

52LibraryCin
Oct 22, 9:45pm Top

>47 sallylou61: eliminate any category that has appeared say three or more times (if there are any

This is a good idea, too.

53LibraryCin
Oct 22, 9:46pm Top

>46 RidgewayGirl: A book published by a small press

Could this also include self-published? Just a thought.

54JayneCM
Oct 23, 12:05am Top

>43 DeltaQueen50: I agree with this too. I am not too fussed if there are repeats as there are always different books to choose for the same category. However it comes, it will be great!

55EBT1002
Edited: Oct 23, 1:09pm Top

I agree that I don't mind repeats although I think it makes sense not to repeat a prompt in two consecutive years. For me, one of the pleasures of BingoDOG is that it has a small number of challenging prompts embedded in a card that fits relatively easily with my usual reading habits.

I also agree with >43 DeltaQueen50: to let Christina ("let"? is that the right word?) finalize the card based on input. It's a lot of work so I hope it feels like a privilege to choose based on Christina's own preferences and enthusiasms, too. I would also prefer not to have more than one card/set per year.

56EBT1002
Oct 23, 1:11pm Top

>55 EBT1002: Having said that bit about letting Christina choose, I want to add this:

Christina, whatever makes your life easier, I think the rest of us can go with. If you'd like to set up a voting thing, I will participate. I trust you and want to support you in leading our next BingoDOG; if choosing from the long list of possible prompts just feels like a chore and there is a way to have us help you, I am all for that!

57christina_reads
Oct 23, 2:16pm Top

>55 EBT1002: >56 EBT1002: Thanks, that is so nice! :) My goal is to make it fair for everyone, so I'm basically trying to get a sense of what most people prefer. It seems like most people are OK with (1) eliminating Bingo squares we did in 2019, and (2) not having an official vote, because it's a long and unwieldy process. I'm very happy to go along with both of those ideas! Right now I'm thinking about eliminating the 2019 Bingo squares and then randomly picking 24 squares from the remaining suggestions. But I'll continue to follow the discussion here to see how we're all feeling when it's time to finalize the list.

58VivienneR
Oct 23, 2:53pm Top

I"d like to withdraw my suggestion of a book in translation because it will be difficult for those of us who do not read translated work therefore unfair, considering how we all like to get a full card.

59Helenliz
Oct 23, 3:18pm Top

I think dropping squares so that they are not used in consecutive years is reasonable when we have a long list to choose from. But I wouldn't want to exclude ideas just because we have used them before.

I'd like to suggest that we don't end up with too many that are too closely related on the the card.

* We have a number that are related to a word in the title.
Book with a number in the title
Book featuring an animal/animal in the title
Book with a proper name in the title
Maybe don't use all of them, 2/3?

* Can I suggest that "book by a woman" and "book by a woman author who won a price in 2019" are not both used? Maybe we could meet in the middle with "book by a woman who won a prize"

* And I'd also suggest that a British or American author is too similar and rather too trivial to be duplicated.

60VivienneR
Oct 23, 6:21pm Top

>59 Helenliz: Excellent points!

61cyderry
Oct 23, 10:15pm Top

I love the idea of having 24 (or at least close to it) new challenges on the BINGO card.
Running the BINGO Dog is not the easiest and I agree that allowing Christina the opportunity to choose what is the most convenient method for her is the way to go.

I've been playing the BINGO DOG since 2015 and have yet to finish, maybe 2020 will be my year!

62MissWatson
Oct 24, 5:09am Top

>59 Helenliz: I agree, it's good you noticed that.

>57 christina_reads: I'm getting very excited about the new card! Thanks for setting this up, Christina.

63sallylou61
Oct 24, 10:01am Top

>47 sallylou61:, >52 LibraryCin: The following have been used at least three times since BingoDOG began in 2015.

Book in translation -- 4 times (2015, 2016, 2018, 2019)
Animal -- 3 times (2015, 2017, 2019)
Short stories or short stories or essays -- 3 times (2016 PUP, 2017, 2019)
Debut book, work, or novel -- 3 times (2016 book, 2017 work, 2019 novel) -- first two could be nonfiction

Eliminating anything from 2019 would take care of all of these.

64JayneCM
Oct 27, 11:54pm Top

Just thought of one more (not that we need any more suggestions!) after hearing everyone talking about Will My Cat Eat My Eyeballs? - weirdest book title.

65This-n-That
Edited: Oct 29, 7:09pm Top

Adding one more to consider and I am not sure if this has been used as a prompt before - A Book With "Library" or "Thing" in the title or subtitle.

66LittleTaiko
Oct 29, 4:55pm Top

>64 JayneCM: - Ooh, that would be great, especially since I have that book. Think I'll hold off on reading it just in case it gets picked as a square.

>65 This-n-That: - I don't think that's been used before. Fun idea!

67cyderry
Oct 29, 6:10pm Top

>65 This-n-That: Can they be part of a subtitle?

68This-n-That
Edited: Oct 29, 7:11pm Top

>67 cyderry: Yes, absolutely. I'll edit comment 65. Thanks for the question.

69VivienneR
Oct 29, 8:41pm Top

>65 This-n-That: I love that one! I hope it is picked.

70MissWatson
Oct 30, 5:44am Top

>65 This-n-That: I love this, too!

71EBT1002
Oct 30, 9:30am Top

I love >65 This-n-That:, as well!

72JayneCM
Oct 30, 9:11pm Top

One more and then I'm done! I know we already have way more than we need but this is on another challenge I was doing and I liked it.

Book with an element in the title.

I know I already have a few with silver or gold in the title on my TBR, but I'm people can find more obscure ones than that!

73dudes22
Oct 31, 6:33am Top

>72 JayneCM: - Element as in periodic table of elements? I think there was a random(?) one time that used earth, wind, fire, and air as elements. Or maybe I'm getting ahead and will wait until it goes in a block to get a better explanation.

74JayneCM
Oct 31, 7:07am Top

>73 dudes22: Yes, periodic table.
I should have put that in the description - I didn't think of the elements of nature.
There should be lots of books to choose from.

75clue
Edited: Nov 1, 11:41am Top

I see the English author and American author on the list...but how about book by a woman from another country? Hmmm will that even fit on a card??

I'm excited to have a new card coming soon!

76LadyoftheLodge
Nov 1, 1:10pm Top

>59 Helenliz: I am not sure what you mean about a British or American author being too trivial??

77Helenliz
Nov 1, 1:30pm Top

>76 LadyoftheLodge: I'm not going to be one to object to there being some easy squares, but those two on the same bingo card would be two squares that most of us (as English speakers) would be able to fill without even having to think about it. That's what I meant by too trivial to both be included.

If we were to have a square of author's nationality, I think the suggestion in >75 clue: is a better one.

78LadyoftheLodge
Nov 1, 5:24pm Top

>77 Helenliz: Okay, thanks, I see what you mean.

79LisaMorr
Nov 1, 7:55pm Top

Wow, what a list!

80VivienneR
Nov 2, 1:04am Top

Maybe some of the suggestions that are dropped can be used next year.

I can't wait to see what is chosen.

81This-n-That
Nov 3, 2:01pm Top

There are so many good ideas here! In agreement with a few other comments, I also feel we should skip repeat categories and wouldn't mind having a few easier themes to choose from. I plan to exclusively focus on BingoDog in this group next year, so I am really excited about the new bingo card. A big thank you in advance to Christina and whoever ends up formatting the cards.

>69 VivienneR: >70 MissWatson: >71 EBT1002: Awww... Thank You. How kind!

82dudes22
Nov 8, 8:30pm Top

I'm wondering if we should consider the block with "Library" or "Thing" an idea for the center block as suggested in #65.

83LadyoftheLodge
Nov 9, 11:34am Top

>82 dudes22: I like that idea.

84EBT1002
Nov 9, 5:06pm Top

>82 dudes22: I like that idea, too.

85christina_reads
Nov 11, 11:43am Top

>82 dudes22: Ooh, me too! Although I do think it would be a harder square to fill than "read a CAT," so that might be something to consider. Would anyone be opposed to replacing the "read a CAT" square with a "read a book with library or thing in the title" square?

86christina_reads
Nov 11, 1:56pm Top

Just a reminder that Friday, November 15, is the last day to suggest squares for the Bingo card! We already have more than enough suggestions, but if there's something you're dying to do that isn't already listed at >1 christina_reads: above, there's still time!

Moreover, the 2020 CATs have now been chosen: looks like we'll have the RandomCAT, a GeoCAT, and a NonfictionCAT. Does anyone want to add or subtract a square suggestion based on this info?

87LadyoftheLodge
Nov 11, 3:35pm Top

>85 christina_reads: You are right, that will be harder to do, although it is a neat idea. . . .

88JayneCM
Nov 11, 6:15pm Top

>85 christina_reads: I'm happy to have the library or thing title square. But happy with anything that is decided!

At my son's basketball there are signs up saying things like 'Don't like the way the game is being referreed? Volunteer here to ref the next game.' I totally agree! So absolutely delighted with anything that any organisers decide, re Bingo, CATS and KITS, whatever. And thank you for organising.

89This-n-That
Nov 12, 2:55pm Top

I am happy with whatever is decided, as well.

90LadyoftheLodge
Edited: Yesterday, 10:41am Top

Same here, happy to participate no matter what is decided. This is one of my fave categories. It always challenges my reading choices.

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