Tracking Trump's Criminal Liability Post-Presidency 3

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Tracking Trump's Criminal Liability Post-Presidency 3

1margd
Sep 2, 2022, 5:50pm

Glenn Kirschner @glennkirschner2 | 10:10 AM · Sep 2, 2022
@NBCNews @MSNBC Legal Analyst; Fmr 30-yr fed prosecutor.

Donald Trump claims he’s providing financial support to the insurrectionists AND pledges to pardon them if he’s elected president. There’s a legal term for that: “giving aid and comfort” to the insurrectionists.
Text of rebellion insurrection law ( https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1565703646653841411/photo/1 )


2margd
Sep 2, 2022, 6:08pm

Bradley P. Moss @BradMossEsq | 11:26 AM · Sep 2, 2022:
“The most active national security lawyer on Twitter.” - Above the Law

Per government source: if there is an empty folder that was originally used to properly store classified records, there will be documentation indicating who put the records in that folder, why they were placed there, and what the records were.

This needs to be emphasized: the folder itself usually isn’t classified. The documents inside it are classified. If the folder was no longer being used to house classified records, anything could have been put in it.

{should there not also be records of who removed the documents from the folder and where they went (assuming that it was an authorized removal properly executed)?}

if that was done in a proper fashion, yes, but I don't think that occurred. I think they were transported to MAL in those folders.

3margd
Sep 3, 2022, 6:06am

After Mar-a-Lago search, Meadows turns over more texts and emails to Archives
Jamie Gangel, Kristen Holmes, Jeremy Herb and Evan Perez | September 2, 2022

Within a week of the FBI search of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows handed over texts and emails to the National Archives that he had not previously turned over from his time in the administration, sources familiar with the matter tell CNN.

Meadows' submission to the Archives was part of a request for all electronic communications covered under the Presidential Records Act. The Archives had become aware earlier this year it did not have everything from Meadows after seeing what he had turned over to the House select committee investigating January 6, 2021. Details of Meadows' submissions to the Archives and the engagement between the two sides have not been previously reported...

The records Meadows turned over to the Archives were not classified...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/mark-meadows-texts-emails-national-archi...

4margd
Sep 3, 2022, 7:11am

FBI, Homeland Security search alleged properties of Russian oligarch in New York and Florida
Jonathan Dienst and Tom Winter| 1 Sept 2022

...(Thursday am, 1 Sept) Homeland Security Investigations and FBI agents, along with New York City Police Department detectives, were seen carrying boxes during a search on Duck Pond Lane in Southampton, New York, and Park Avenue in Manhattan. Records show those properties are linked to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, a billionaire and a close ally of President Vladimir Putin, who heads the Moscow-based Renova Group, a conglomerate with interests in the metals, mining and tech industries...

A search is also underway at a property on Miami’s Fisher Island that authorities say was linked to Vekselberg...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/fbi-nypd-search-alleged-prope...
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Mueller, She Wrote @MuellerSheWrote | 4:50 PM · Sep 2, 2022
Tweets by @allisongill. https://meidastouch.com/partners

THREAD :: NEWS :: FBI and DHS agents were seen searching and removing boxes from the NY and FL residences of Viktor Vekselberg yesterday morning. What investigation is this part of? If that name rings a bell, allow me to refresh your memory. 1/

Mueller arrested him at an airport in 2018. He’s got ties to German Khan - the number 3 guy at Alfa Bank back then and father-in-law of Alex van der Zwaan (indicted by Mueller on FARA charges). Vekselberg was at the Bank of Cyprus when Wilbur Ross ran it. 2/

And not only did Vekselberg attend Donald’s inauguration, he donated $250K to it. His ticket was bought through a straw donor. Remember notes were found on Manafort’s phone saying “use Cyprus as inter” during the June 2016 trump tower meeting. 3/

And remember Cohen’s “access fund” disguised as a consulting firm called “Essential Consulting” (it’s fuckin’ essential)? Vekselberg and his cousin Intrater controlled a company called Columbus Nova that gave Cohen $500K. Both were questioned by Mueller. 4/

Vekselberg is also an associate of Kukes who was in contact with a kremlin official in 2016 while donating to the trump campaign. The donations began 2 weeks after the 2016 trump tower meeting & totaled $273K. He took photos with Giuliani at a fundraiser and sent them to RU 5/

The Suspicious Activity Report with all the Vekselberg money to Cohen in it was leaked by whistleblower Natalie Mayflower Sours Edwards, who should have gotten a Medal of Honor but was instead sentenced to 6 months in prison in January. 6/

In fact, Avenatti released video of a meeting between Cohen, Vekselberg, and Intrater meeting at trump tower during the transition. Remember that? 7/

Vekselberg also has ties to Blavatnik, who donated over $7M to Pete Sessions, Scott Walker, Ron DeSantis, Mitch McConnell, and Kevin McCarthy. Mnuchin sold his shares of his movie company to Blavatnik when he became secretary of the treasury. 8/

And Deripaska tried to sue the US Treasury to get the evidence they used to place Vekselberg on the OFEC sanctions list. So what could DHS/FBI be looking for in Vekselberg’s residences? Is it about the inaugural? Is it about the trump documents? 9/

Is it about Rudy? Or some other redacted investigation in Appendix D of the Mueller Report. Whatever it is, Vekselberg has been on my Fantasy Indictment Team for four years. Thanks for sticking with me through this thread! END

5Molly3028
Sep 3, 2022, 12:26pm

https://www.mediaite.com/news/just-in-ex-trump-chief-meadows-turned-in-new-batch....
JUST IN: Ex-Trump Chief Meadows Turned In New Batches of Texts and Emails After FBI Mar-a-Lago Raid

6Molly3028
Edited: Sep 5, 2022, 8:56am

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/defend-him-conservative-media-...
Conservative media figures 'sick of having to defend' Trump, ready to move on

“Part of this is what they’re calling a Trump fatigue, where privately, they’re telling the president, ‘We get it, you’ve been a target since Day One, all you wanted to do was govern the country, we like your policies, we’re with you in spirit, we know you’re getting screwed,’” the operative said. “But it’s a cost-benefit analysis.”

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The raid for docs was the last straw. Trump's cult followers will not agree with this move. Death is the only thing that will separate a cult follower from a cult leader.

7aspirit
Edited: Sep 5, 2022, 12:27pm

>6 Molly3028: From the The Washington Examiner even!

For those who don't recognize the name: this is an extremely conservative (politically) news source created in 2005 by a billionaire as a counter to the centrist/left-leaning Washington Post.

WaEx isn't known for honestly or accuracy, though. The "operative" cited could be an editor who's about to be fired, or really anyone.

8Molly3028
Edited: Sep 5, 2022, 12:04pm

>7 aspirit:

The Washington Examiner article showed up in my favorite and most inclusive news source ~ the SmartNews app. It collects articles from sources on all subjects and all political sides. I highly recommend perusing it on a daily basis.

9aspirit
Sep 5, 2022, 12:31pm

>8 Molly3028: I regularly peruse a wide variety of news sources with varying perspectives-- despite how WaEx, Fox, and other Trump-loving so-called "news" sources are thrown up every day in internet search results, ads, forums posts, social media, etc. I think I'm good. Thank you, though.

10Molly3028
Sep 5, 2022, 12:36pm

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/just-in-judge-approves-trumps-special-master-request...
JUST IN: Judge Approves Trump’s Special Master Request to Review Docs from Mar-a-Lago Raid

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No surprises here ~ she is a Trump judge ~ slowing down the DOJ is the name of the game.

11margd
Sep 5, 2022, 12:56pm

"...potentially privileged material subject to claims of...executive privilege..."!!!!

Harry Litman @harrylitman | 11:59 AM · Sep 5, 2022:
LATimes Legal Affairs Columnist. Former US Attorney, DOJ official. Teach con law at UCSD& UCLA.

Katie, bar the door: "The Court hereby authorizes the appointment of a special master to review the seized property for personal items and documents and potentially privileged material subject to claims of attorney- client and/or executive privilege."
Atrocious.

12aspirit
Sep 5, 2022, 1:14pm

I too was returning here to post about the special master ruling.

Judge Aileen Cannon, who was appointed to the federal bench by Trump in 2020, wrote in a 24-page order that the U.S. government is “temporarily enjoined from further review and use of any of the materials seized” in the Aug. 8 search “for criminal investigative purposes pending resolution of the special master’s review.”

“The Government may continue to review and use the materials seized for purposes of intelligence classification and national security assessments,” Cannon wrote in her order in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-trump-speci...

What's unclear to me after skimming several sites, including the pieces on Mediaite, is how much of the investigation is actually curtailed. The FBI, Archives, and other government agencies may continue to go through the recovered documents for security purposes but not for the pursuit of criminal charges until the review for the privilege claims. Correct? But does that actually change much of the investigative work being done at this point?

Seems to me the biggest interference to the investigation is in having to deal with the assignment and inquiries of the special master.

By the way, the candidates must be proposed by this Friday.

13Molly3028
Edited: Sep 5, 2022, 1:31pm

Special master ruling~

Where are they going to find someone on this planet with the creds and who hasn't spoken or written anything political to another living person over the last 7 years???

14aspirit
Edited: Sep 5, 2022, 1:31pm

Okay, I'm not the only one asking.

“The Court is mindful that restraints on criminal prosecutions are disfavored, but finds that these unprecedented circumstances call for a brief pause to allow for neutral, third-party review to ensure a just process with adequate safeguards,” Cannon, a Trump appointee, wrote in her 24-page order.

Even so, it is not clear that the decision will have a significant effect on any investigative or charging decisions or the ultimate outcome of the probe. A separate assessment by the U.S. intelligence community of the risk posed by the apparent mishandling of classified records will continue under the judge’s order.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2022-09-05/judge-grants-trump-bid-for-spe...

The concern that of anyone on Trump's legal team will gain posession of documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago also seems unbased.

This is not the "big win" MAGAts are saying it is for Trump.

15aspirit
Sep 5, 2022, 1:33pm

>13 Molly3028: Nowhere. The two legal teams will propose candidates they believe represent their respective interests. "Independent" in this case will only mean "bipartisan".

16margd
Sep 5, 2022, 1:41pm

>13 Molly3028: JOINT report due Friday--list of acceptables, duties, timelines, compensation. Trump will drag this out, while he does God-knows-what... DOJ must appeal.

17Molly3028
Edited: Sep 5, 2022, 2:13pm

>15 aspirit: and >16 margd:

Judge Cannon's ruling could turn someone's personal life into a living hell. Who is going to want their name on any list connected to this mess???

18aspirit
Sep 5, 2022, 4:29pm

>17 Molly3028: Someone who's personal life is already hellish, perhaps? I don't know why we as a society keep pretending Trump's presidency and the aftermath didn't create ongoing problems in individual lives that are outside of the latest news spotlight.

I expect there are also still idealists on the investigation team's side who are eager to ensure the special master review is recorded in a way that even Trump-appointed judges will see as solid. The review record could really make a difference in later court cases.

19Molly3028
Edited: Sep 5, 2022, 5:41pm

>18 aspirit:

The inches Trump and his cult followers have been gaining are quickly adding up to feet and yards. The goalpost they have been running towards is now reachable in their minds ~ they will not willingly give up ground they have so easily captured. Every win they procure is another loss for America's democracy in the long run.

20margd
Sep 6, 2022, 11:54am

Jose Pagliery @Jose_Pagliery | 9:39 AM · Sep 6, 2022:
@thedailybeast political investigations reporter

Yesterday, a South Florida federal judge issued a bizarre ruling halting the FBI's investigation of Trump. She went out of her way to help him.

@thedailybeast took a look at how Trump has been trying to get this judge for a while.

Donald Trump Went Judge Shopping and It Paid Off in Mar-a-Lago Case
Trump got the judge he wanted in the Mar-a-Lago case: One he appointed. And she just gave him the first decision he wanted.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-went-judge-shopping-and-it-paid-off-i...

21Molly3028
Edited: Sep 6, 2022, 8:37pm

https://news.yahoo.com/document-seized-trump-home-described-001233778.html
Document seized from Trump home described foreign government's nuclear capabilities - Washington Post

Tue, September 6, 2022 at 8:12 PM
In this article:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A document describing a foreign government's military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found in the FBI's search last month of former President Donald Trump's Florida home, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday.

The Post report, which cited people familiar with the matter, did not identify the foreign government discussed in the document.

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Why would an ex-prez want this info??????

22margd
Sep 7, 2022, 2:46am

Carol Leonnig @CarolLeonnig | 8:10 PM · Sep 6, 2022:
WashPost reporter, MSNBC contributor, finder of fact, author "Zero Fail" & "A Very Stable Genius", NYT Bestsellers

NEWWWS -- Details about nuclear capabilities of a foreign government were in records seized at trump's Mar-a-Lago in early August. As well as details of US programs so secret that seniormost natsec officials didn't know they existed.

Material on foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities seized at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
Some of the documents seized on Aug. 8 detail top-secret U.S. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them.
Carol Leonnig and Devlin Barrett
washingtonpost.com
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mike freeman @mikefreemanNFL | 9:16 PM · Sep 6, 2022:
Journalist, USA Today sports race and inequality editor. Fmr. B/R, NYT, Washington Post. Author of nine books.

The former head of the CIA just said the nuke docs found at Trump’s golf course are so secretive they are kept in safe’s inside the SCIF*.
Not just in the SCIF. In a safe inside the SCIF.

Watched him say it on MSNBC.

* A sensitive compartmented information facility, in United States military, national security/national defense and intelligence parlance, is an enclosed area within a building that is used to process sensitive compartmented information types of classified information. Wikipedia

23lriley
Sep 7, 2022, 6:24am

>22 margd: So somehow whoever this Special Master is supposed to be that this more junior Federal judge Cannon wants to be appointed is going to need a security clearance to look over documents that some of the most senior NatSec officials don't even know exist? I kind of question whether there is even such a person in the entirety of United States and its possessions who has the qualifications to be the Special Master for this assignment of hers.

24margd
Sep 7, 2022, 8:07am

Laurence Tribe tribelaw | 7:01 AM · Sep 7, 2022:
At least the injunction must be appealed and swiftly reversed. Note of caution: The Circuit Justice for the 11th Circuit . . . Wait for it: Justice Clarence Thomas!*

Quote Tweet
Andrew Weissmann 🌻 @AWeissmann_ · 10h
Revised: what DOJ shd do.
Appeal the injunction AND the Special Master review for executive privilege. No need to appeal the att-client review as that can be short and sweet and is less erroneous. Appeal shd explain how ruling interferes with both nat sec review and crim case.
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* Each of the thirteen federal circuit courts is assigned one Supreme Court Justice who then considers certain appeals (e.g., emergency requests and other matters) from his or her assigned circuit while other aspects of the case are still pending. The Chief Justice of the United States is responsible, under 28 U.S.C. 42, for allotting circuit justices “in vacation.” http://myattorneyusa.com/supreme-court-circuit-justice-assignments

25Molly3028
Edited: Sep 7, 2022, 2:31pm

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/former-attorney-general-bill-barr-says-doj-is-very-c...
Former Attorney General Bill Barr Says DOJ is ‘Very Close’ to Having Enough Evidence to Indict Trump

On FOX with Hemmer and Perino

.....“As I’ve said all along there are two questions,” Barr said. “Will the government be able to make out a technical case, will they have evidence, by which, that they could indict somebody on, including him? That’s the first question, and I think they are getting very close to that point, frankly.”

Barr said the second question is “Do you indict a former president? What will that do to the country? What kind of precedent will it set? Will the people really understand that this is not failing to return a library book? That this was serious?”......

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Barr managed to escape the cult in which he was a major participant. Lo and behold, his moral compass is functioning again! Apparently, the needles on moral compasses fail to function in cult arenas.

26krolik
Sep 7, 2022, 4:06pm

>25 Molly3028: Speculating about Barr's moral compass is a game of roulette.

27margd
Sep 8, 2022, 4:35am

...Say Legal Experts
Monday’s ruling may delay the criminal investigation into the ex-president for months, if not years.
Bess Levin | September 6, 2022
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/09/donald-trump-special-master-mar-a-lago-d...

28margd
Sep 8, 2022, 5:39am

Andrew Weissmann 🌻 @AWeissmann_ | 4:35 PM · Sep 7, 2022:
@NYULAW @MSNBC. 20 years at DOJ; 10 as defense counsel; lifetime as invetrate NYer. NYT bestseller: Where Law Ends: Inside the Mueller Investigation.

Nuclear docs at MAL are causing damage NOW to our national security interests; foreign allies are going to be far less willing to cooperate and share information with us, knowing from one administration to the next, we may not keep their secrets safe and sound. All due to Trump.

LOSS OF INTEL MEANS A RISK OF LOSS OF LIFE. Sharing among intel agencies is vital to protecting Americans here and abroad.
Words from Biden Administration will be important for them to hear, but they will look at actions. Trump's actions. And have second thoughts.

"Getting countries to share info with us involves trust and... continuity... I really can't stress enough that there is actual damage to our national security status and ability to protect the country based on the reporting that we've seen" - @AWeissmann_w/ @NicolleDWallace (MSNBC)

2:20 ( https://twitter.com/tburages/status/1567620690920062978 )

29lriley
Edited: Sep 8, 2022, 6:15am

>28 margd: there is no telling anywhere really on any agent or undercover asset. I'm not really a fan of the CIA/NSA or any other of our foreign spy apparatus but Trump has put every bit of that in danger. If we don't know what's been compromised all those people are at risk along potentially with families, friends etc. etc. and who's to know if he hasn't in some cases (like Saudi Arabia where he's been doing business deals with MBS) deliberately handed over or sold information on human intel or let it be copied out. There is still a lot missing. It's really unconscionable and very likely treasonous.

30margd
Sep 8, 2022, 8:03am

>29 lriley: Trump's docu-drama will be costly. Procedures and even will need to be replaced since "we don't know what's been compromised".

Even if the Russians et al. don't have info in hand, the replacement-costs to us and allies' distrust going forward are all to adversaries' interests.

We may not like all that CIA et al. have done in past, but no denying that knowing what others are capable of surely saves us from mis-steps that cost lives.

31Molly3028
Edited: Sep 8, 2022, 11:49am

https://www.mediaite.com/news/sucker-watch-the-brutal-lincoln-project-ad-that-ma...

‘SUCKER’: Watch the Brutal Lincoln Project Ad That Made Trump So Angry He’s Threatening to Sue Fox News

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This ad is spot on! AMEN

32margd
Sep 8, 2022, 6:45pm

Neal Katyal @neal_katyal | 5:41 PM · Sep 8, 2022
Supreme Court lawyer;law professor;extremist centrist. Former US Acting Solicitor General.

The DOJ brief criticizing the Special Master ruling is a work of art. I’ve read some great DOJ briefs but this is among the best. Garland brought the A team

(Now admittedly, it was an easy target. But still, just in tone & sophistication &clarity & law)
courtlistener.com

Motion to Stay – #69 in Trump v. United States (S.D. Fla., 9:22-cv-81294) – CourtListener.com
MOTION to Stay Pending Appeal by United States Of America. Responses due by 9/22/2022 (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit)(Gonzalez, Juan) (Entered: 09/08/2022)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.fl...

33margd
Sep 8, 2022, 7:32pm

Federal grand jury probing Trump PAC's formation, fundraising efforts: Sources
The grand jury has subpoenaed several individuals in recent weeks, sources say.
Katherine Faulders and John Santucci | September 8, 2022
https://abcnews.go.com/US/federal-grand-jury-probing-trump-pacs-formation-fundra...

34aspirit
Sep 8, 2022, 8:39pm

>33 margd: That weblink didn't work for me. Here is what appears to be the current link.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/federal-grand-jury-probing-trump-pacs-formation-fundra...

Similar to regular political action committees, leadership PACs can only accept up to $5,000 per donor, far less than the upwards of $800,000 donations that the Trump campaign and the Republican Party's high-dollar joint fundraising committee, Trump Victory, had previously raised.

Since its inception, Save America PAC has brought in more than $135 million, including transfers from affiliated committees, according to disclosure records. As of the end of July, the PAC reported having just under $100 million in cash on hand.

35aspirit
Edited: Sep 8, 2022, 8:57pm

"Trump has raised millions. He may run in 2024, so where will all that money go?" | NPR.org | Deepa Shivaram
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/24/1118946905/trump-pac-money-fec

Experts say Trump may spends the PAC money while he is not a candidate for president how he wants with almost no restrictions. However, it's supposed to not be used for a presidential campaign.

Will he, anyway? Will the Federal Election Commission (FEC) look away again if he does?

Trump doesn't exactly have a history of following FEC guidelines, and there hasn't been much enforcement despite dozens of campaign finance complaints.

Since 2016, there have been upward of 40 complaints against the former president — the FEC hasn't acted on any of them, including the case of Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen paying off Stormy Daniels during the 2016 election. It's bringing up questions on whether Trump could be held accountable for any potential violations in the future.

According to the news article, the same questions are asked when looking at other agencies that may file criminal charges—most notably the DOJ.

36krolik
Sep 10, 2022, 4:04am

37margd
Sep 10, 2022, 10:02am

Peter Strzok @petestrzok | 7:58 AM · Sep 10, 2022
26 year FBI and Army veteran. Georgetown School of Foreign Service adjunct professor and alum. NYT/WP bestseller: Compromised

Better check Bedminster…

On May 6, NARA emails Trump to say material is missing and may be at MAL.
https://washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/30/mar-a-lago-timeline-trum...

On May 9, Trump gets on a private plane from Palm Beach to Bedminster. On video, several boxes are seen loaded onto the plane.

https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9560663/Melania-Trump-wears-polka-dots-cele...

Photo of plane being loaded ( https://twitter.com/petestrzok/status/1568569527113338882/photo/1 )

Type/brand of box look familiar? (h/t @the_peetape for noting)
Photos of boxes ( https://twitter.com/petestrzok/status/1568569532377186306/photo/1 )

38aspirit
Sep 10, 2022, 11:22am

>37 margd: Daily Mail is an atrocious news source, and Bankers Box file storage boxes are widely available to everyone. The same boxes can be purchased at Target and Walmart.

But, yes, Donald Trump moved homes from Florida to a residence in New Jersey earlier this year. If any more federal records are missing, Bedminster is a likely target for investigators.

39aspirit
Edited: Sep 10, 2022, 2:41pm

>36 krolik: removed: off-topic review of marketing material

>35 aspirit: Save America PAC's fundraising relied on the message that Trump and other Republicans had elections "stolen" from them. (In other words, they lost despite gerrymandering, aggressive campaigning, and violent attacks against elections officials.) Where are the funds actually being used for?

"Portraits of Trump, Melania in Smithsonian among latest spending for ex-president's Save America PAC" | USA Today
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/08/22/save-america-smithsonian...

The PAC gave $650,000 to the Smithsonian Institution to pay for portraits of Donald Trump and his current wife. There was only one other donor on record for the couple's portraits.

For comparison, nearly 300 donors contributed a total of $750,000 specifically for portraits of the Obamas. Dozens of donors previously contributed to portraits of the Bushes.

The PAC has also paid $60,000 to a fashion designer for Melania Trump, for whatever reason.

40margd
Sep 13, 2022, 2:41am

Over 30 Trump associates subpoenaed by grand jury over alleged efforts to influence 2020 election results
Arden Farhi, Fin Gómez, Andres Triay | September 12, 2022

...The subpoenas, many of which were issued last week, mark a significant escalation in the Justice Department's investigation into origins of the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol riot and other alleged attempts to stop the transfer of power to then-President-elect Joe Biden. One source familiar with the case characterized the investigation as huge.

The Justice Department is examining how money was raised and spent on alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election; efforts to submit fake "alternate" electors to Congress from states lost by Trump; and the "Stop The Steal" rally held at the Ellipse, adjacent to White House grounds, on Jan. 6, just before the Capitol riot.

The Justice Department's inquiry into potential mishandling of presidential and classified records found at Trump's Florida estate is a separate matter.

Those who were served subpoenas included employees and contractors for the Trump campaign and Republican National Committee — including poll watchers — according to two sources familiar with the subpoenas. The sources said the identities of those subpoenaed range from household names {Stephen Miller} to mostly unknown, low-level field staffers...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/30-trump-associates-grand-jury-subpoena-2020-electi...
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Not necessarily related, but Trump flew unannounced to DC Sunday--in white (golf?) shoes. Met ~8 men on his VA golf club property--no golf clubs in sight.

Andrew Wortman 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇸 @AmoneyResists | 6:27 PM · Sep 12, 2022:
So he’s “golfing” at his Virginia club with no golf clubs. This is what mobsters look like who are terrified of wire taps.

1:30 ( https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1569452772717924354 )
From Kelly O'Donnell

41margd
Sep 13, 2022, 3:17am

Acyn @Acyn | 9:06 PM · Sep 12, 2022:
I’m not sure listing all these investigations helps

0:34 Sean Hannity ( https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1569492668756987905 )

42aspirit
Sep 13, 2022, 6:21am

>40 margd: https://trumpgolfcount.com/

Donald Trump's daytime visits to golf clubs while he was POTUS: 298

How many visits was there evidence of him playing golf? 150

Almost half the time Trump took one of his incredibly frequent trips to a golf club/course/resort, he didn't appear interested in actual golfing. He also was notorious for disregarding privacy and funding concerns.

That's because previous presidents would usually go to federally owned property to play golf when they could. President Obama for comparison was an avid golfer known to frequent Andrews Air Force Base in Washington, DC. (Andrews is where the presidential planes are kept.) That's considered more secure, as not just anyone may wander around at the same time, and it potentially reduces the cost of presidential security. (Remember: Secret Service follows around each POTUS.)

Trump instead preferred his own privately owned properties in Virginia, Florida, and New Jersey.

43margd
Edited: Sep 13, 2022, 1:04pm

>42 aspirit: Yeah, I've been wondering if he's been passing info, etc. all this time while visiting his properties. Can't believe he's still free...

>40 margd: contd.
John W. Dean @JohnWDean | 8:13 PM · Sep 12, 2022:
This is much like a mob meeting, right out of the movies! Golf shirts so no wires. Move around so no unseen electronic fixes. Way out of camera range so no lip reading.

Maybe he going to sell the property or modify it. A friend who understands TFG better than me (once lived in Trump Tower) thinks it was legitimate. See

Trump visits Virginia golf course during ‘working’ trip to DC area
Steven Nelson | September 12, 2022
https://nypost.com/2022/09/12/trump-visits-virginia-golf-course-during-working-t...

44Molly3028
Edited: Sep 13, 2022, 12:23pm

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/hannity-reminds-viewers-of-over-30-investigations-in...
Hannity Reminds Viewers of Over 30 Investigations Into Trump While Complaining About Democratic Obsession

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Proud Trumpers apparently want Americans to believe it is the Dems fault that Trump is a serial criminal and con man. Trump flaunts his criminality on a daily basis ~ he sees it as an MAGA achievement.

45margd
Sep 17, 2022, 12:33pm

Laurence Tribe (Harvard Law) tribelaw | 7:39 AM · Sep 17, 2022:
Months before National Archives officials retrieved hundreds of classified documents in 15 boxes from Mar-a-Lago, {Chief of Staff Mark} Meadows had told Trump’s lawyers to say the boxes just contained “news clippings.” To avoid jail time, Meadows will have to flip on Trump.

Trump team claimed boxes at Mar-a-Lago were only news clippings
The 2021 assertion to the National Archives vastly misrepresented the scale and variety of documents, including classified records, later recovered from Trump’s property.
Jacqueline Alemany, Josh Dawsey and Rosalind S. Helderman | September 16, 2022
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/16/trump-records-archiv...

46aspirit
Sep 17, 2022, 12:48pm

>45 margd: That's as ridiculous as saying the stolen documents, including the classified files, were all greeting cards from family members. What's scary is that someone believes any ridiculous lie that comes from their "side". (Meanwhile, none of these business men are working for the typical Trump supporter; they're obviously scheming for their own benefit.)

47margd
Sep 17, 2022, 6:05pm

The Government Has Evidence That Trump Ripped Up Classified Docs
Jason Easley | Sep 16th, 2022

...Destroyed documents that were recovered by the FBI that probably have Trump’s DNA on them are powerful pieces of evidence that Donald Trump mishandled classified information. Ripping up classified materials would be a textbook definition of mishandling classified information.

Trump has a habit of ripping up papers and documents after he reads them. Trump’s habit of tearing up documents was so problematic because it violates the Presidential Records Act that staffers had a designated room where they taped documents back together that Trump destroyed...

The DOJ is investigating Trump for mishandling government documents. It doesn’t matter if the information was classified or not. Ripping up documents that belong to the US government is a crime...

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/09/16/trump-ripped-up-classified-docs.html

48Molly3028
Edited: Sep 20, 2022, 9:46am

https://www.mediaite.com/news/calling-his-bluff-latest-filing-shows-trumps-hand-...
‘Calling His Bluff’: Latest Filing Shows Trump’s Hand-Picked Special Master Backfiring Say Twitter Pundits, Journos

In a new filing Monday, former President Donald Trump‘s legal team refused a requirement — set forth in Dearie’s draft plan — that Trump’s team provide details about Trump’s claim to have “declassified” documents that were seized during the FBI in the search of Mar-a-Lago.

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Did his new lawyer purposely steer Trump in this direction???

49aspirit
Sep 21, 2022, 3:38pm

This is big for the Trump family as well anyone with ties to them.

"New York AG sues Trump, his children and their company on charges of large-scale business fraud" | NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/new-york-ag-sues-trump-children-co...

Donald Trump, the three oldest of his children—Donald Junior, Ivana, and Eric—and Trump Organization have been sued for more than 200 alleged instances of business fraud over a decade of dealings inflating the family's financial worth. Attorney General Letitia James says the Trumps owe the state upwards of $250 million in connection to their fraudulent practices. Her office also seeks to bar the four Trumps and their businesses from dealings within the state.

50aspirit
Sep 21, 2022, 3:53pm

NBC News split the information about the case between their video and article. Here's a more straightforward explanation of the New York / Trump Org fraud case as of today.

"Explainer-What New York's lawsuit means for Trump and his family company" | Reuters by way of MSN (no paywall)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/explainer-what-new-yorks-lawsuit-means-f...

Notes:

• The investigation focused on the company's activities before Trump became president in 2017.

• The AG is specifically seeking to bar Donald, Junior, Ivana, and Eric from serving as directors of companies registered in New York and from commercial dealings in the state for five years.

• The company's portfolio in New York includes 14 residential properties, three commercial properties, two golf courses, and Seven Springs (a large property that is currently one of Donald Trump's "homes").

• This is a civil case, not a criminal one.

• But the AG is referring allegations of criminal fraud to federal prosecutors within New York as well as to the Internal Revenue Service.

• This is a separate case from the ongoing one about criminal tax fraud by the Manhattan District Attorney's office. (The AG is assisting with the DA's case.)

51aspirit
Sep 21, 2022, 4:11pm

https://abcnews.go.com/US/york-ag-letitia-james-files-250m-lawsuit-trump/story?i...

Among other allegations, the suit claims that the former president's Florida estate and golf resort, Mar-a-Lago, was valued as high as $739 million, but should have been valued at around one-tenth that amount, at $75 million. The suit says that higher valuation was "based on the false premise that it was unrestricted property and could be developed for residential use even though Mr. Trump himself signed deeds donating his residential development rights and sharply restricting changes to the property."


This hasn't been clear in the news, so I'll also note that Mar-a-Lago—a golf resort referred to as Trump's Florida "home" and the site where the FBI retrieved National Archives records—is a business registered with a New York address c/o Trump Organization.

52lriley
Sep 21, 2022, 4:34pm

From what I understand if....sounds more like when a judge rules in favor it cuts him off from lenders pretty much everywhere in the United States because practically every lender has links to accredited NYS banks in one way or another. Also for Donald to get his business back at all delaying on this case is not going to do it.....if he's to get revenues from his business again he is going to have to win in court and until then everything is more than less frozen. Also (again) it's more a documentary than a witness case and if somebody says to one entity 'this is the value of this property' while at the same time asserts to another entity a completely different value for the same property (as Trump seems to have done repeatedly for years) to enrich themselves as the NYS AG is saying either for tax breaks or for better loan terms that is illegal. If the documents are as she says I don't think this is winnable case for him. It's also a lower bar as it's the documents and not witnesses that are really what makes or breaks this.

53aspirit
Edited: Sep 21, 2022, 5:47pm

>52 lriley: Ooooh, insightful. I hadn't yet considered how the lawsuit would immediately affect Trump businesses.

I am still thinking these properties are important in the national security investigation, too.

"The properties Trump is accused of overvaluing in alleged fraud scheme" | NY Post
https://nypost.com/2022/09/21/the-properties-trump-is-accused-of-overvaluing-in-...

Here are some of the properties that Trump is accused of drastically inflating according to the NY AG's lawsuit.

‣ Trump Tower Triplex penthouse in Trump Tower, Manhattan, New York, USA
‣ Trump Park Avenue, New York, USA
‣ Mar-a-Lago, Palm Beach, Florida, USA
‣ Trump Aberdeen, golf course in Aberdeen, Scotland, UK
‣ Trump National Golf Club, Jupiter, Florida, USA

NY Post reported, "The value of three of his clubs — Mar-a-Lago, Trump Aberdeen and Trump National Golf Club — was also listed as one figure on statements of financial condition, which James says was intentional so as not to discern the value of each."

"Trump’s N.J. golf courses were part of alleged fraudulent scheme to inflate worth by billions, suit charges" | NJ.com
https://www.nj.com/politics/2022/09/trumps-nj-golf-courses-were-part-of-alleged-...

NJ.com confirmed, "Trump’s golf properties stretch from Bedminster, Pine Hill in Camden County and Colts Neck, all in New Jersey, to Mar-a-Lago in Florida, and to clubs in New York, Los Angeles, Charlotte, and Scotland. The lawsuit claimed that Trump’s financial statements did not list separate values for each of those facilities."

(Reminder: The golf course in Bedminster, New Jersey, is where Ivanka Trump was buried in what is suspected to be a tax scheme.)

54lriley
Edited: Sep 21, 2022, 7:36pm

>53 aspirit: I watched Letitia James press conference and she gave several examples of Trump making fraudulent claims. Two of the examples were at the Trump tower in NYC. She cited 12 apartments at that property that were valued at $750 K and that were also rent stabilized at the $750 number and Donald claimed the value of those 12 altogether at $49 million. Donald also claimed that his own apartment at the tower at $327 million with 33,000 square feet of living space and that apartment is less than 11,000 and valued just over $100 million. All this was to get favorable loans and terms from his lenders and then he turns around and cheats on his taxes. She also talked about appraisers who would value his property at one number—Donald would then value at a much higher number and claim/lie that was what the appraisers valued it at. A lot of these high/low numbers for the same property are already documented so there is a paper trail. She also cited that when Donald was called as a witness he invoked his 5th amendment rights something around 500 times.

Apparently the defense for this is going to be ‘everybody does it’.

Might mention that some of his lenders may be thinking seriously about recalling their loans.

55kiparsky
Sep 22, 2022, 1:28pm

Former President Donald Trump said in a broadcast interview Wednesday that he can declassify documents “even by thinking about it.”

“There doesn’t have to be a process, as I understand it,” Trump told Fox News' Sean Hannity, after Hannity pressed him on which process he took to declassify the documents.

He continued, “If you’re the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it’s declassified, even by thinking about it.”


(from USA Today)

56aspirit
Sep 22, 2022, 2:15pm

>55 kiparsky: There's a well-supported rumor that his father bribed Donald Trump's way through school so he would "pass" his classes, from elementary school through university.

I used to think those stories were exaggerated. I don't know why I did. Perhaps I thought too well of schools in the USA.

Trump certainly doesn't acknowledge his "mistakes" (inappropriate actions such as lying, spreading dangerous misinformation, abusing positions of power, and so on). He didn't listen to any good advice when he was caught making horrible remarks while campaigning in 2016, and he doesn't show he's learned anything since.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/guy-trump-university-shouldn...

Then again, he's old and known for bad health habits. He possibly stopped bothering to learn anything in the 1980s.

(Somehow, millions of people want him to be POTUS again while they call President Biden "slow". Incredible.)

57aspirit
Edited: Sep 22, 2022, 2:36pm

By the way, did Trump University pay the twenty-five million dollars owed to its former "students" (the thousands of scam victims)?

There's news that Trump and his attorneys didn't pay for about a year and a half after agreeing to settle the TU fraud case*, but I'm not finding any confirmation that the money went out.

I think this is relevant to how the current NY AG lawsuit for Trump Org properties will go.

*correction: cases
Two class action lawsuits and a civil complaint by the New York Attorney General (Eric Schneiderman at the time).

58lriley
Sep 23, 2022, 9:28pm

Former Republican congressman Denver Riggleman alleges that on January 6, 2021 as the insurrection was going on the White House switchboard registered a call from someone inside to an insurrectionist outside. When asked whether he knew who the two parties were Riggleman says he knows who the insurrectionist recipient was but not who called him from inside the White House.

60aspirit
Sep 29, 2022, 3:53pm

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-28/trump-refuses-to-delay-friday...

Mirror: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/trump-refuses-to-delay-florida-deposition-...

"Trump Refuses to Delay Florida Deposition in Phone-Fraud Case Despite Hurricane" by Erik Larson

■ "Former president was set to be deposed at Mar-a-Lago on Friday
■ "Lawyers for both sides accuse the other of storm falsehoods"

Trump, his company and his three oldest children were sued in 2018 by four investors who claim they were duped into paying thousands of dollars to become independent sellers with ACN Opportunity LLC, which sold a doomed videophone device that the Trumps touted as the next big thing but which was rendered obsolete by smartphones.

Trump fought for years to avoid the deposition but ultimately agreed earlier this year to answer questions under oath, after his attempt to dismiss the suit failed. The case is one of the lesser known legal disputes facing the former president as he weighs a possible 2024 run for the White House.

The case is McKoy v. Trump Corp. in US District Court for the Southern District of New York. US Magistrate Judge Sarah Cave is in Manhattan, New York. The reasons the Trumps' attorneys wanted to meet at Mar-a-Lago, Florida, during hurricane season are unclear.

61aspirit
Sep 30, 2022, 10:59am

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-records-probe-tensions-flare-over-...

As the probe into the presence of top-secret information at Mar-a-Lago continues, barbed comments in recent court filings have laid bare deep disagreements related to the special master's work — not just among lawyers but judges, too. And the filings have made clear that a process the Trump team initially asked for has not consistently played to the ex-president's advantage.

The article linked above looks at who's who and what is happening in the case of the recovered federal documents.

62aspirit
Edited: Oct 18, 2022, 6:29pm

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/17/1129491352/trump-hotels-overcharged-secret-servic...

As POTUS, Donald Trump frequently stayed on his own property (547 times during his term), requiring the federal government to pay Trump businesses for lodging for Secret Service. His unjustified trips to his own, typically-unsecured properties was controversial on its own, but new US Congressional documents show the Trump Organization charged the government "exorbitant" prices.

According to the documents, the Secret Service was charged as much as $1,185 per room per night, nearly five times the government rate, which is set by the General Services Administration.

This is a far cry from what Trump Organization Executive Vice President Eric Trump claimed in 2020 — that rooms were provided "at cost" to the Secret Service.

While the House Oversight Committee continues to investigate the cost of Trump's lodging scheme, both within and outside of the country, it so far calculates the Secret Service payments to Trump's US properties at more than $1.4 million—roughly a thousand dollars a day over four years that went to his private businesses because of choices he made as the country's top government administrator.

This is essentially theft.

It's not clear whether or not Donald Trump's extension of the Secret Service to his adult children calculates within the apparent scheme.

63margd
Oct 21, 2022, 3:22pm

David Frum @davidfrum | 11:30 AM · Oct 21, 2022:

As somebody has said, if a foreign espionage agency doesn’t have at least one spy inside Mar-a-Lago, can they even call themselves an intelligence service at all? Seems like taking candy from a baby, except the baby would notice and Trump wouldn’t

And by the way

Mar-A-Lago Is Looking To Hire 91 Foreign Workers This Year
Zach Everson | Aug 10, 2022
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2022/08/10/mar-a-lago-is-looking-to-hir...

64margd
Edited: Oct 22, 2022, 3:33am

Never mind his lumpy old hide, he wouldn't take classified documents to a country w/o an extradition treaty with the US, would he?

BREAKING: Donald Trump's 757 plane has been spotted on the tarmac in West Palm Beach. It had been undergoing repairs before this.

A 757 has a flight range of over 4400 miles.

- Tristan Snell @TristanSnell | 7:27 PM · Oct 21, 2022.
Lawyer, founder http://MainStreet.law repping small/mid-size businesses, entrepreneurs, creators. Prosecuted Trump University @ NY AG. Commentator MSNBC CNN.

65margd
Nov 3, 2022, 11:15am

Trump aide Kash Patel ordered to testify to grand jury investigating Mar-a-Lago documents, sources say
Katelyn Polantz and Paula Reid | November 2, 2022

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/politics/kash-patel-testify-mar-a-lago-documents-...

66margd
Nov 18, 2022, 4:38am

Julia Davis (The Daily Beast) @JuliaDavisNews | 5:17 PM · Nov 17, 2022:

GOP operative found guilty of funneling Russian money to Donald Trump.

Jesse Benton was pardoned by Trump for a different campaign finance crime, months before he was indicted again on 6 counts related to facilitating an illegal foreign campaign donation.

GOP operative found guilty of funneling Russian money to Donald Trump
Rachel Weiner | 17 Nov 2022

A longtime Ron Paul aide helped a Russian businessman get into a Trump fundraiser; Trump later pardoned him for another campaign finance crime...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/11/17/benton-trump-russian-vasilenk...

67margd
Nov 18, 2022, 3:30pm

DOJ announces special counsel for Trump-related Mar-a-Lago and January 6 criminal investigations

...Attorney General Merrick Garland on Friday appointed a special counsel to oversee the criminal investigations into the retention of national defense information at former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort and parts of the January 6, 2021, insurrection.

“Based on recent developments, including the former President’s announcement that he is a candidate for President in the next election, and the sitting President’s stated intention to be a candidate as well, I have concluded that it is in the public interest to appoint a special counsel” ...

Jack Smith, the former chief prosecutor for the special court in The Hague, where he investigated war crimes in Kosovo, will oversee the investigations.

Smith “has built the reputation as an impartial and determined prosecutor,” Garland said...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/18/politics/justice-department-trump-special-counsel...

68Molly3028
Edited: Nov 19, 2022, 1:56pm

No jury in this country will ever find Trump guilty of anything. Why? Because a sweet, Christian female juror will most likely explain that she had a conversation with the Lord, and he told her it was her Christian duty to hang the jury.

69Kuiperdolin
Nov 19, 2022, 4:50pm

Christian duty to hang a lot more than that but it's a good start

70kiparsky
Nov 19, 2022, 7:22pm

>69 Kuiperdolin: Who do you reckon Jesus would hang?

71aspirit
Nov 23, 2022, 12:54pm

"Supreme Court Allows Congress to Finally See Donald Trump’s Tax Returns: The ruling ends a three-year legal battle over the former president’s tax returns." | New Republic (Nov 22) | https://newrepublic.com/post/169106/supreme-court-allows-congress-finally-see-do...

72aspirit
Nov 23, 2022, 1:03pm

>71 aspirit: I know Trump's adoring crowds have repeatedly made excuses for his extremely suspicious refusal to provide copies of his income tax returns to Congress. So to show contrast: Joe Biden has publicly shared a total of 24 years of his federal income tax returns. The most recent was for tax year 2021. (Source)

73prosfilaes
Nov 23, 2022, 6:07pm

>72 aspirit: Yeah, releasing of taxes seems to be a rather arbitrary and not terribly helpful practice of presidential candidates, but it is a sign of obsequence to the general public, and it's a huge warning sign when it's not done.

74lriley
Edited: Nov 23, 2022, 11:07pm

>73 prosfilaes: Trump has turned this into a ‘fighting the man’ ‘personal freedumbs’ issue and it definitely plays too and gets much support from his base. How important it is to moderates and independents who lean to the right is a question.

75aspirit
Nov 29, 2022, 4:34pm

"Trump almost ran out the clock on his tax returns. Almost. While Trump’s long legal wrangling delayed the production of documents to House Democrats, it has also created two more perils for the former president." | NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trumps-tax-returns-case-lost-supreme-court...

First, the updated House request to the Treasury Department in 2021 calls for more recent tax returns, this time for tax years 2015-2020. These returns cover Trump’s entire presidency, meaning that the House will get a full look at whether Trump or his companies may have run afoul of the Emoluments Clause. That's the clause of the Constitution which prohibits federal officeholders from receiving gifts, payments or things of value from leaders or representatives of foreign countries (and because this is a constitutional prohibition, Trump cannot argue that it does not apply to a president).

Second, the opinion from the highly regarded D.C. Court of Appeals has now confirmed that the legal bar that congressional tax committees must clear to access a former president’s (and even a sitting president’s) tax returns is fairly low.

The POTUS is not a regular citizen. The American public should expect higher (not lower!) standards for everyone who serves in that position.

76lriley
Nov 29, 2022, 5:37pm

>75 aspirit: Most recent presidents have tried very hard to expand the powers of the presidency while in office. Trump with his nonsensical take that he still has executive privilege is the first president that I know of to try to expand presidential powers into his post presidency......but he is like it or not a regular citizen again and in theory anyway subject to all kinds of civil and criminal liability. Many of us are still waiting for sure for those liabilities to become realities. Unfortunately it's been a very long and frustrating wait.

77aspirit
Dec 1, 2022, 7:58pm

>76 lriley: Regular citizens aren't assigned Secret Service agents and maintain certain other presidential privileges.

However, I agree he should be liable for civil and criminal charges.

That Trump seems to not understand he's no longer POTUS is a separate (deeply concerning) issue.

78aspirit
Dec 1, 2022, 8:03pm

"Trump special master overturned by appeals court in Mar-a-Lago documents investigation: The order goes into effect in seven days, absent another legal intervention." | ABC News
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/appeals-court-shuts-special-master-trump-documen...

"The law is clear," the {panel of} judges found. "We cannot write a rule that allows any subject of a search warrant to block government investigations after the execution of the warrant. Nor can we write a rule that allows only former presidents to do so."

The order effectively eliminates what federal authorities had described as a major obstacle in their ongoing criminal investigation into whether Trump illegally retained highly classified records after leaving the presidency and obstructed efforts by the government to recover them.

79librorumamans
Dec 2, 2022, 12:00am

>77 aspirit:

I expect he fully understands that he is no longer president, but it very much suits his strategy to behave otherwise.

80aspirit
Dec 7, 2022, 8:02am

Trump Organization has for the first time been convicted (that is, found guilty) on charges of criminal charges!

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140756394/former-president-donald-trumps-company...

The jury found it and another corporate entity controlled by the Trump family guilty on 17 counts of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records. NPR reports that the maximum penalty for this convictions is $1.6 million in payments.

81margd
Edited: Dec 13, 2022, 12:41pm

Harry Litman @harrylitman | 5:31 PM · Dec 8, 2022:
LATimes Legal Affairs Columnist. Exec. prod. & host, @talkingfedspod. FCA Lawyer. Teach con law at UCSD& UCLA. Senior Fellow USC. Former US Atty, Dep Assis AG.

"Wow. DOJ wants to hold Trump in contempt for violation of subpoena. A natural outgrowth of the trickling out of documents and failure to comply with subpoena from last May. But quite a strike {shot?} across the bow."

82margd
Jan 20, 9:32am

Florida judge fines Trump, lawyer for ‘frivolous’ lawsuit
JILL COLVIN | 20 Jan 2023

A Florida Judge sanctioned former President Donald Trump and one of his attorneys Thursday, ordering them to pay nearly $1 million for filing what he said was a bogus lawsuit against Trump’s 2016 rival Hillary Clinton and others.

In a blistering filing, U.S. District Judge Donald M. Middlebrooks accused Trump of a “pattern of abuse of the courts” for filing frivolous lawsuits for political purposes, which he said “undermines the rule of law” and “amounts to obstruction of justice...Here, we are confronted with a lawsuit that should never have been filed, which was completely frivolous, both factually and legally, and which was brought in bad faith for an improper purpose”...

(The lawsuit had named as defendants Clinton and some of her top advisers, as well as former FBI Director James Comey and other FBI officials involved in the investigation into whether Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign had coordinated with Russia to sway the outcome of the election.)

Citing Trump’s recent legal action against the Pulitzer Prize board, New York Attorney General Letitia James, big tech companies and CNN, he described Trump as “a prolific and sophisticated litigant” who uses the courts “to seek revenge on political adversaries.”...

https://apnews.com/article/politics-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-florida-new-yor...

83Kuiperdolin
Jan 20, 6:50pm

Judge Middlebrow was nominated by the defendant's husband, Bill Clinton. Who said judges were ingrates? Not I.

84aspirit
Jan 21, 11:16am

>82 margd: >83 Kuiperdolin: the judge was nominated 25 years ago.

With his experience, Judge Middlebrooks should be more than qualified to recognize misuse of the legal system even when it's not as obvious as it is coming from Trump and the people strange enough to work for him.

On the topic of Trump's legal people...

"Michael Cohen, Trump's former 'fixer,' meets with Manhattan D.A. investigators" by Graham Kates
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-cohen-trump-manhattan-district-attorney-inv...

CBS News says last Tuesday's meeting with Cohen may be a sign that Manhattan District Attorney's Office is "picking up steam" in its years-old investigation into Trump's finances.