Take It or Leave It Challenge - April 2024 - Page 1
Talk 75 Books Challenge for 2024
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1SqueakyChu
For those new to this challenge: More info and monthly index can be found in post #1 of this thread or this TIOLI FAQS wiki.
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Your challenge for April 2024 is to…
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Read a book by an author whose first and last name end in the same letter.
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Rule:
1. Ignore all names in between the first name and the last name.
It might not be as easy as it sounds so here are some author names to start you off…
Barbara Mujica (A)
Shiga Naoya (A)
Janette Oke (E)
Elizabeth Ehrlich (H)
Haruki Murakami (I)
Hiromi Kawakami (I)
Mark Obmascik (K)
Dan Chaon (N)
Ian McEwan (N)
Jonathan Kellerman (N)
Roberto Bolaño (O)
James Rollins (S)
Kurt Vonnegut (T)
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Other Stuff (not part of the TIOLI challenge):
1. @FAMeulstee's 2024 TIOLI Sweeplette Meter
2. @FAMeulstee's Our TIOLI Sweeps
3. Morphidae's List of Previous TIOLI Challenges (2010-2016) - A reference (Do a control-F scan) to avoid repeating a previous challenge. If your idea is similar to a previous challenge, make it unique by adding a new "twist" to it.
4. The April 2024 TIOLI Meter - Optional page on which you may track your TIOLI reading. Not competitive--- just fun!
...logo by cyderry
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Your challenge for April 2024 is to…
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Read a book by an author whose first and last name end in the same letter.
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Rule:
1. Ignore all names in between the first name and the last name.
It might not be as easy as it sounds so here are some author names to start you off…
Barbara Mujica (A)
Shiga Naoya (A)
Janette Oke (E)
Elizabeth Ehrlich (H)
Haruki Murakami (I)
Hiromi Kawakami (I)
Mark Obmascik (K)
Dan Chaon (N)
Ian McEwan (N)
Jonathan Kellerman (N)
Roberto Bolaño (O)
James Rollins (S)
Kurt Vonnegut (T)
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Other Stuff (not part of the TIOLI challenge):
1. @FAMeulstee's 2024 TIOLI Sweeplette Meter
2. @FAMeulstee's Our TIOLI Sweeps
3. Morphidae's List of Previous TIOLI Challenges (2010-2016) - A reference (Do a control-F scan) to avoid repeating a previous challenge. If your idea is similar to a previous challenge, make it unique by adding a new "twist" to it.
4. The April 2024 TIOLI Meter - Optional page on which you may track your TIOLI reading. Not competitive--- just fun!
2SqueakyChu
Index of Challenges:
Challenges #1-6
1. Read a book by an author whose first and last name end in the same letter - msg #1
2. Read a book for the Zodiac challenge (Aries) which has a word on the first page from the ram-related list - msg #3
3. Read a book in honour of Helenliz's dad in which you learn something - msg #4
4. Read a book with a title that makes you think of the spring season - msg #6
5. Read a book for The “Many Words, One Syllable Each” Challenge: Titles that have only 1 syllable words in them, but must have more than 1 word - msg #7
6. Read a book in honor of lindapanzo's Mom and Dad's 65th wedding anniversary in April - msg #9
Challenges #7-12
7. Read a book about a war that divides a nation - msg #13
8. Read a book with the word 'family' or 'families' on the cover - msg #16
9. Read a book where there are at least two of the letter “s” in the title - msg #20
10. Read a book whose title includes one, and only one, adjective - msg #21
11. Read a book by an author whose first name is a nickname - msg #22
12. Read a book with something suggesting music on the cover - msg #40
Challenges #13-15
13. Read a book with 150 pages or less - msg #41
14. Read a book with magical realism, fantasy, alternate history or humor as a tag - msg #42
15. Read a book you've owned for more than 10 years or that's been on your TBR list for more than 10 years - msg #47
Please hold your challenge until the May TIOLI challenge is posted! Thanks.
Challenges #1-6
1. Read a book by an author whose first and last name end in the same letter - msg #1
2. Read a book for the Zodiac challenge (Aries) which has a word on the first page from the ram-related list - msg #3
3. Read a book in honour of Helenliz's dad in which you learn something - msg #4
4. Read a book with a title that makes you think of the spring season - msg #6
5. Read a book for The “Many Words, One Syllable Each” Challenge: Titles that have only 1 syllable words in them, but must have more than 1 word - msg #7
6. Read a book in honor of lindapanzo's Mom and Dad's 65th wedding anniversary in April - msg #9
Challenges #7-12
7. Read a book about a war that divides a nation - msg #13
8. Read a book with the word 'family' or 'families' on the cover - msg #16
9. Read a book where there are at least two of the letter “s” in the title - msg #20
10. Read a book whose title includes one, and only one, adjective - msg #21
11. Read a book by an author whose first name is a nickname - msg #22
12. Read a book with something suggesting music on the cover - msg #40
Challenges #13-15
13. Read a book with 150 pages or less - msg #41
14. Read a book with magical realism, fantasy, alternate history or humor as a tag - msg #42
15. Read a book you've owned for more than 10 years or that's been on your TBR list for more than 10 years - msg #47
Please hold your challenge until the May TIOLI challenge is posted! Thanks.
3Morphidae
Challenge #2: Read a book for the Zodiac challenge (Aries - has a word on the first page from the ram-related list)
Read a book with a word on the first page (since Aries is considered the first sign) from the list below. Words must be exact*; however can be embedded, including across words.
* Except for translations into different languages, e.g. (ram), carnero, Widder, bélier, 羝羊, خَروف, 公羊, मेढ़ा, domba jantan.
This year I'm doing zodiac-related challenges for the zodiac sign most often related to that particular month.
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The Greek myth associated with the zodiac sign of Aries is that of the Golden Fleece; the Chrysomallus (best known from the story of Jason and the Argonauts), a flying ram which saved Phrixus and Helle, children of the Boeotian king, Athamas, from being killed by their wicked stepmother, Ino.
Aries (Latin for ram), is a constellation of stars, which when seen from Earth by the ancient Greeks looked to them like the shape of a ram’s head. ~ GreekerThanGreek.com
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Read a book with a word on the first page (since Aries is considered the first sign) from the list below. Words must be exact*; however can be embedded, including across words.
ram, sheep, wool, ewe, lamb, horn, mutton, shepherd, fleece, flock, shear, merino, clip, buck, mob, sheepherder, shearling, band, yearling, wether, theave, gimmer, teg, hogget, tup, yoe
* Except for translations into different languages, e.g. (ram), carnero, Widder, bélier, 羝羊, خَروف, 公羊, मेढ़ा, domba jantan.
This year I'm doing zodiac-related challenges for the zodiac sign most often related to that particular month.
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AI image created by Morphidae
The Greek myth associated with the zodiac sign of Aries is that of the Golden Fleece; the Chrysomallus (best known from the story of Jason and the Argonauts), a flying ram which saved Phrixus and Helle, children of the Boeotian king, Athamas, from being killed by their wicked stepmother, Ino.
Aries (Latin for ram), is a constellation of stars, which when seen from Earth by the ancient Greeks looked to them like the shape of a ram’s head. ~ GreekerThanGreek.com
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4Helenliz
April's an odd month. It contains my birthday and the death of both of my parents. I come at it with mixed feelings. I also go book shopping, it's become the annual book buying trip, so there's that. This year marks 20 years since dad died. There are adults in the world since he left it, that blows my mind. In which case you're being asked to:
Challenge #3: Read a book in honour of my dad
Every day when I left for school he would say "don't forget to learn something". And sometimes we'd get grilled on what it was we had learnt that day. You got into the habit of remembering one thing that was small enough to explain without being trivial. In my PhD thesis I responded to this with the final line of the acknowledgments being "and to answer my Dad's perennial question, Yes I did learn something".
So you are being asked to read a book in which you learn something. And you need to report back on what it was you learnt. Can be a fact, can be a dip into a new subject area, can be a realisation of something, can be a situation presented in a new light, something that changes your thinking. Viewed in that light it could be fiction as well as non-fiction. The thing is you need to include in the wiki what is was you learnt once you've finished the book. Completed books without a "thing you learnt" will not count.
Challenge #3: Read a book in honour of my dad
Every day when I left for school he would say "don't forget to learn something". And sometimes we'd get grilled on what it was we had learnt that day. You got into the habit of remembering one thing that was small enough to explain without being trivial. In my PhD thesis I responded to this with the final line of the acknowledgments being "and to answer my Dad's perennial question, Yes I did learn something".
So you are being asked to read a book in which you learn something. And you need to report back on what it was you learnt. Can be a fact, can be a dip into a new subject area, can be a realisation of something, can be a situation presented in a new light, something that changes your thinking. Viewed in that light it could be fiction as well as non-fiction. The thing is you need to include in the wiki what is was you learnt once you've finished the book. Completed books without a "thing you learnt" will not count.
5dallenbaugh
>2 SqueakyChu: Would the name Robert Jackson Bennett fit your challenge?
6dallenbaugh
Challenge #4: Read a book with a title that makes you think of the spring season
Here are examples but it is your choice if the title fits:
Thin ice
Too Good to be True
A Pure Clear Light
Something Light
Here are examples but it is your choice if the title fits:
Thin ice
Too Good to be True
A Pure Clear Light
Something Light
7alcottacre
In response to Suzanne’s One Word, Many Syllables Challenge from last month: The “Many Words, One Syllable Each” Challenge: Titles that have only 1 syllable words in them, but must have more than 1 word
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." - Charles Caleb Colton :)
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." - Charles Caleb Colton :)
8SqueakyChu
>4 Helenliz: In my PhD thesis I responded to this with the final line of the acknowledgments being "and to answer my Dad's perennial question, Yes I did learn something".
Awww! That's so beautiful.
Completed books without a "thing you learnt" will not count.
I'll have to remember this when compiling the stats! :)
>5 dallenbaugh: Yes...with the letter T.
Awww! That's so beautiful.
Completed books without a "thing you learnt" will not count.
I'll have to remember this when compiling the stats! :)
>5 dallenbaugh: Yes...with the letter T.
9lindapanzo
Challenge #6: Read a book in honor of Mom and Dad's 65th wedding anniversary in April
On April 25th, Mom and Dad will be "celebrating" their 65th wedding anniversary (April 25, 1959 was their wedding day). It's a bittersweet day as Dad has advanced stage Alzheimer's and lives in a memory care facility. Mom and I can hardly talk about it without crying and Dad has no idea.
After I stop crying, I'll compile a list of possible books to look for.
Topics to consider:
--books about, or taking place, in 1959
--Dad was born in 1936 and Mom was born in 1937
--both are Polish Americans
--both born in Chicago and lifetime Chicagoland residents
--a connection to number 65
--Alzheimer's
--Dad was a marathon runner and worked in the computer business going back to the 1960's
--Dad is a veteran and was in the U.S. Army and later, the Illinois National Guard
--Mom likes to read historical fiction involving World War 2
--Mom likes to watch mysteries on PBS and Acorn TV (and also read mysteries)
On April 25th, Mom and Dad will be "celebrating" their 65th wedding anniversary (April 25, 1959 was their wedding day). It's a bittersweet day as Dad has advanced stage Alzheimer's and lives in a memory care facility. Mom and I can hardly talk about it without crying and Dad has no idea.
After I stop crying, I'll compile a list of possible books to look for.
Topics to consider:
--books about, or taking place, in 1959
--Dad was born in 1936 and Mom was born in 1937
--both are Polish Americans
--both born in Chicago and lifetime Chicagoland residents
--a connection to number 65
--Alzheimer's
--Dad was a marathon runner and worked in the computer business going back to the 1960's
--Dad is a veteran and was in the U.S. Army and later, the Illinois National Guard
--Mom likes to read historical fiction involving World War 2
--Mom likes to watch mysteries on PBS and Acorn TV (and also read mysteries)
10Helenliz
>8 SqueakyChu: I will try and keep an eye on it as well.
He was quite pleased. Utterly unable to tell me, of course, but I heard a fair amount of bragging happened.
>9 lindapanzo: I have no words. Having lost both parents relatively early (they were 56 & 64) I suppose that's my silver lining, I never have to see them deteriorate. Not having to deal with it I can't know if I win there or not.
He was quite pleased. Utterly unable to tell me, of course, but I heard a fair amount of bragging happened.
>9 lindapanzo: I have no words. Having lost both parents relatively early (they were 56 & 64) I suppose that's my silver lining, I never have to see them deteriorate. Not having to deal with it I can't know if I win there or not.
11lindapanzo
>10 Helenliz: It scares the heck out of my sister and me. Dad, both of his brothers, his mother, and one of his two aunts (but not his father and not his other aunt) all had it, though they developed it at a much earlier age. We first started noticing when, at their 60th anniversary celebration, Dad kept asking me who many of the people were. Anyway, I know other factors enter into it but it scares my sister and me to have such a strong family connection.
Dad and his two brothers had five daughters between them. We range in age from about 40 to 69 and, so far so good with us.
Dad and his two brothers had five daughters between them. We range in age from about 40 to 69 and, so far so good with us.
12Helenliz
>11 lindapanzo: It gets in your head, doesn't it? And stays there. With my parents having died either side of 60, I turned 50 and had a major wibble that I might only had a decade left. Freaked me out, in a what have I done with my life and what am I doing with the rest of it kind of way. Fortunately I've readjusted somewhat since but the thought nags away every now & then.
13Citizenjoyce
Challenge 7: Read a book about a war that divides a nation
this can be a civil war or a war about which a large part of the nation disagrees. I'll be reading The Women by Kristin Hannah about the Vietnam War.
this can be a civil war or a war about which a large part of the nation disagrees. I'll be reading The Women by Kristin Hannah about the Vietnam War.
14Morphidae
>3 Morphidae: Alightie then. It's done! By a reasonable time of the month even! 🤣
15Citizenjoyce
My planned reads:
Challenge #1: Read a book by an author whose first name and last name ends in the same letter - started by SqueakyChu
American Indian Stories - Zitkala-Ša
✔Hester - Laurie Lico Albanese (4)
✔How to Stand up to a Dictator by Maria Ressa (5)
Mistborn: The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson
Tress of the Emerald Sea - Brandon Sanderson abandoned
*Under a Veiled Moon - Karen Odden
Challenge #2: Read a book for the Zodiac challenge (Aries - has a word on the first page from the ram-related list) - started by Morphidae
✔Man Made Monsters - Andrea L. Rogers (4.5)
✔A Woman's Life Is a Human Life - Felicia Kornbluh (4)
Challenge #3: Read a book in honour of my dad - started by helenliz
✔Cold Crematorium: Reporting from the Land of Auschwitz by József Debreczeni (5)
The Fire of Stars: The Life and Brilliance of the Woman Who Discovered What Stars Are Made Of by Kirsten W Larson
✔The Mercies - Kiran Millwood Hargrave (3.5)
Challenge #4: Read a book with a title that makes you think of the spring season - started by dallenbaugh
✔Bluebird, Bluebird by Attica Locke (3.5)
✔Peach Blossom Spring by Melissa Fu (4.5)
Challenge #5: The “Many Words, One Syllable Each” Challenge: Titles that have only 1 syllable words in them, but must have more than 1 word - started by AlcottAcre
✔Come and Get It - Kiley Reid (4)
*✔The Good Earth - Pearl S. Buck (5)
✔The Green Mile - Stephen King (5)
✔In Cold Blood by Truman Capote (5)
✔Mouth to Mouth by Antoine Wilson (4.5)
Challenge #6: Read a book in honor of Mom and Dad's 65th wedding anniversary in April - started by lindapanzo
✔ENIAC: The Triumphs and Tragedies of the World's First Computer -Scott McCartney (3.5)
✔A Spell of Trouble - Leighann Dobbs (3)
Challenge #7: Read a book about a war that divides a nation, name the war - started by Citizenjoyce
✔The Life We Bury by Allen Eskens (4)
✔The Wives: A Memoir - Simone Gorrindo (5)
*✔The Women - Kristin Hannah (3)
Challenge #8: Read a book with the word 'family' or 'families' on the cover - started by wandering_star
✔The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power - Jeff Sharlet (5)
*✔Vera Wong's Unsolicited Advice for Murderers - ("comedic family" on back cover)- Jesse Q. Sutanto (4)
Challenge #9: Read a book where there are at least two of the letter “s” in the title - started by DeltaQueen
*✔The Little Shop of Found Things - Paula Brackston (3.5)
✔Writers & Lovers -Lily King (4)
Challenge #10: Read a book whose title includes one, and only one, adjective - started by susanna.fraser
✔The Big It and Other Stories - A. B. Guthrie Jr. (3)
✔Heaven, My Home by Attica Locke (3.5)
✔Last Night at the Telegraph Club by Malinda Lo (4)
Challenge #11: Read a book by an author whose first name is a nickname - started by Chatterbox
I Must Be Dreaming - Roz Chast
Shadow Witch - Kim Richardson
✔Wandering Stars - Tommy Orange (4)
Challenge #12: Read a book with something suggesting music on the cover - started by antqueen
✔Her Country: How the Women of Country Music Became the Success They Were Never Supposed to Be - Marissa R. Moss (5)
Challenge #13: Read a book with 150 pages or less - started by FAMeulstee
✔Dumpty: The Age of Trump in Verse - John Lithgow (4)
Challenge #14: April Fooler: Read a book with magical realism, fantasy, alternate history or humor as a ta - started by streamsong
✔Midnight Spells - Kim Richardson (3.5)
✔The Midnight Library - Matt Haig (3)
Challenge #15: Read a book you've owned for more than 10 years or that's been on your TBR list for more than 10 years - started by cbl_tn
✔The Genius of Dogs: How Dogs Are Smarter than You Think - Brian Hare (5)
Challenge #1: Read a book by an author whose first name and last name ends in the same letter - started by SqueakyChu
American Indian Stories - Zitkala-Ša
✔Hester - Laurie Lico Albanese (4)
✔How to Stand up to a Dictator by Maria Ressa (5)
Mistborn: The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson
Tress of the Emerald Sea - Brandon Sanderson abandoned
*Under a Veiled Moon - Karen Odden
Challenge #2: Read a book for the Zodiac challenge (Aries - has a word on the first page from the ram-related list) - started by Morphidae
✔Man Made Monsters - Andrea L. Rogers (4.5)
✔A Woman's Life Is a Human Life - Felicia Kornbluh (4)
Challenge #3: Read a book in honour of my dad - started by helenliz
✔Cold Crematorium: Reporting from the Land of Auschwitz by József Debreczeni (5)
The Fire of Stars: The Life and Brilliance of the Woman Who Discovered What Stars Are Made Of by Kirsten W Larson
✔The Mercies - Kiran Millwood Hargrave (3.5)
Challenge #4: Read a book with a title that makes you think of the spring season - started by dallenbaugh
✔Bluebird, Bluebird by Attica Locke (3.5)
✔Peach Blossom Spring by Melissa Fu (4.5)
Challenge #5: The “Many Words, One Syllable Each” Challenge: Titles that have only 1 syllable words in them, but must have more than 1 word - started by AlcottAcre
✔Come and Get It - Kiley Reid (4)
*✔The Good Earth - Pearl S. Buck (5)
✔The Green Mile - Stephen King (5)
✔In Cold Blood by Truman Capote (5)
✔Mouth to Mouth by Antoine Wilson (4.5)
Challenge #6: Read a book in honor of Mom and Dad's 65th wedding anniversary in April - started by lindapanzo
✔ENIAC: The Triumphs and Tragedies of the World's First Computer -Scott McCartney (3.5)
✔A Spell of Trouble - Leighann Dobbs (3)
Challenge #7: Read a book about a war that divides a nation, name the war - started by Citizenjoyce
✔The Life We Bury by Allen Eskens (4)
✔The Wives: A Memoir - Simone Gorrindo (5)
*✔The Women - Kristin Hannah (3)
Challenge #8: Read a book with the word 'family' or 'families' on the cover - started by wandering_star
✔The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power - Jeff Sharlet (5)
*✔Vera Wong's Unsolicited Advice for Murderers - ("comedic family" on back cover)- Jesse Q. Sutanto (4)
Challenge #9: Read a book where there are at least two of the letter “s” in the title - started by DeltaQueen
*✔The Little Shop of Found Things - Paula Brackston (3.5)
✔Writers & Lovers -Lily King (4)
Challenge #10: Read a book whose title includes one, and only one, adjective - started by susanna.fraser
✔The Big It and Other Stories - A. B. Guthrie Jr. (3)
✔Heaven, My Home by Attica Locke (3.5)
✔Last Night at the Telegraph Club by Malinda Lo (4)
Challenge #11: Read a book by an author whose first name is a nickname - started by Chatterbox
I Must Be Dreaming - Roz Chast
Shadow Witch - Kim Richardson
✔Wandering Stars - Tommy Orange (4)
Challenge #12: Read a book with something suggesting music on the cover - started by antqueen
✔Her Country: How the Women of Country Music Became the Success They Were Never Supposed to Be - Marissa R. Moss (5)
Challenge #13: Read a book with 150 pages or less - started by FAMeulstee
✔Dumpty: The Age of Trump in Verse - John Lithgow (4)
Challenge #14: April Fooler: Read a book with magical realism, fantasy, alternate history or humor as a ta - started by streamsong
✔Midnight Spells - Kim Richardson (3.5)
✔The Midnight Library - Matt Haig (3)
Challenge #15: Read a book you've owned for more than 10 years or that's been on your TBR list for more than 10 years - started by cbl_tn
✔The Genius of Dogs: How Dogs Are Smarter than You Think - Brian Hare (5)
16wandering_star
Challenge #8: Read a book with the word 'family' or 'families' on the cover
Title, subtitle, blurb all fine.
Title, subtitle, blurb all fine.
17alcottacre
>1 SqueakyChu: Madeline, if a book has 2 authors, do both of the author's names have to meet the condition for your challenge? Thanks!
18SqueakyChu
>17 alcottacre: Just one author will qualify your book.
I think it would be almost impossible to find two authors who would qualify for the same book!
I think it would be almost impossible to find two authors who would qualify for the same book!
19alcottacre
>18 SqueakyChu: If I had more time, I might try and find 2 authors on the same book that would qualify, lol.
Thanks, Madeline!
Thanks, Madeline!
20DeltaQueen50
Challenge #9: Read a book where there are at least 2 of the letter "s" in the title
: must be in the main title not the sub-title
: must be in the main title not the sub-title
21susanna.fraser
Challenge #10: Read a book whose title includes one, and only one, adjective
Feel free to ignore subtitles.
Feel free to ignore subtitles.
22Chatterbox
Challenge #11: Read a book by an author whose first name is typically a nickname
Pretty straightforward (I hope!) So, Jack might come from John; Jake from Jacob; Jim or Jamie from James. Sally is often short for Sarah. Include the full form of the name most often associated with the nickname (in parentheses...)
Yes, I know that some "nicknames" are often people's actual names. For instance, Lisa originated as a nickname for Elizabeth, as did Elise, but now it's often a name "in its own right". So the question isn't whether the author you're reading was actually named Sarah or Sally, but whether it's most typically or originally a nickname.
Self interested challenge, as I'm one of those people who has insisted on people using my full name since I started kindergarten (I thought "Suzie" was undignified...)
Pretty straightforward (I hope!) So, Jack might come from John; Jake from Jacob; Jim or Jamie from James. Sally is often short for Sarah. Include the full form of the name most often associated with the nickname (in parentheses...)
Yes, I know that some "nicknames" are often people's actual names. For instance, Lisa originated as a nickname for Elizabeth, as did Elise, but now it's often a name "in its own right". So the question isn't whether the author you're reading was actually named Sarah or Sally, but whether it's most typically or originally a nickname.
Self interested challenge, as I'm one of those people who has insisted on people using my full name since I started kindergarten (I thought "Suzie" was undignified...)
23Chatterbox
>9 lindapanzo: My parents also were married in 1959 (in June) but didn't even make it to 30 years. My father died almost exactly a year ago, and his last years were plagued not only by the physical manifestations of Parkinson's but also Lewy Body dementia. His father had Alzheimer's and I'm not sure which is tougher; my father was very often aware of what was happening or knew that he couldn't understand what was going on around him, and his distress was upsetting.
>4 Helenliz: I was thinking of my family history of longevity recently, and was kind of startled to realize that both my parents lived into their late 80s (my mother will turn 87 this year; my father was 87 when he died). All of my grandparents were at least 80; one lived into her 90s. A great-grandmother lived to 100. I'm not altogether sure I want to be around all that long.
But I love the idea behind your challenge. I had a grandfather like that -- and I dedicated a book to him.
>4 Helenliz: I was thinking of my family history of longevity recently, and was kind of startled to realize that both my parents lived into their late 80s (my mother will turn 87 this year; my father was 87 when he died). All of my grandparents were at least 80; one lived into her 90s. A great-grandmother lived to 100. I'm not altogether sure I want to be around all that long.
But I love the idea behind your challenge. I had a grandfather like that -- and I dedicated a book to him.
24PawsforThought
>23 Chatterbox: My dad has Lewy Body dementia and it’s indescribably tough on everyone involved. I’m sorry you and your dad had to go through that.
My family is also long-lived, or at least the women are. Most of them lived to at least 90. I wouldn’t mind going for that long but not if I have to be ill.
On a happier note, the challenges look fun and interesting. I’ll see if I can get around to joining any this month.
My family is also long-lived, or at least the women are. Most of them lived to at least 90. I wouldn’t mind going for that long but not if I have to be ill.
On a happier note, the challenges look fun and interesting. I’ll see if I can get around to joining any this month.
25alcottacre
>22 Chatterbox: I had to laugh when I saw this challenge. I had planned one for later in the year: Read a book in which one of the title words could be a nickname.
26Chatterbox
>25 alcottacre: Great minds think alike!!
27alcottacre
>26 Chatterbox: I guess so!
28wandering_star
>20 DeltaQueen50: Oh great, this challenge will take two of the three books I am currently reading which I won't be able to finish today!! That takes the pressure off :-)
29DeltaQueen50
>28 wandering_star: Glad to help! :)
30alcottacre
>22 Chatterbox: Suzanne, what if the author uses his middle name for his first name? I am thinking of Pat Conroy, whose first name was Daniel but whose middle name was Patrick and he used the nickname.
31DeltaQueen50
Is there a reason why my entry into Challenge #3 has been removed?
I had placed Forever Young by Hayley Mills there as I wanted to learn how she adjusted to life after her Disney years and how her career advanced.
I had placed Forever Young by Hayley Mills there as I wanted to learn how she adjusted to life after her Disney years and how her career advanced.
32SqueakyChu
>31 DeltaQueen50: I think it was removed by mistake. I found it in our history and replaced it. Check it to see if it's correct. Thanks for letting us know about this omission right way. It's easier to correct when we spot issues promptly.
33DeltaQueen50
>32 SqueakyChu: Thanks for your prompt attention, Madeline, it looks fine now.
35Chatterbox
>30 alcottacre: Honestly, if you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have known that Pat Conroy's first name wasn't Patrick or Pat! Let's go by what the name on the book says. He didn't use Daniel, so...
Similarly, if someone runs into a name like S. Kate Jones, it's fine to use. But Samantha Kate -- nope. Just to cover any eventualities.
Similarly, if someone runs into a name like S. Kate Jones, it's fine to use. But Samantha Kate -- nope. Just to cover any eventualities.
36alcottacre
>35 Chatterbox: Thanks, Suzanne!
37Kristelh
>3 Morphidae:; Can I use Gazelle to fill requirements? They are in the same family as Sheep.
38Morphidae
>37 Kristelh: Only the words on the list, please.
39Kristelh
>38 Morphidae:, okay, thanks.
40antqueen
Challenge #12: Read a book with something suggesting music on the cover
A musical instrument, someone dancing or singing, a radio, music notes, etc.
Images, not text, but either front or back cover (or spine!) is fine.
A musical instrument, someone dancing or singing, a radio, music notes, etc.
Images, not text, but either front or back cover (or spine!) is fine.
41FAMeulstee
Challenge #13: Read a book with 150 pages or less
Reading is hard for me at the moment, prefering short reads.
Reading is hard for me at the moment, prefering short reads.
42streamsong
Challenge #14: April Fooler: Read a book with magical realism, fantasy, alternate history or humor as a tag
43Chatterbox
>40 antqueen: This is great! I just got an advance copy of Maria by Michelle Moran, all about the sound of music, and it's got a version of that iconic "Maria dancing on the mountain" image from the movie on the cover... :-)
44antqueen
>43 Chatterbox: I'm glad my self-serving challenge helps someone else too :)
45alcottacre
>43 Chatterbox: >44 antqueen: It is amazing that so often a challenge comes up that helps me out. Anita's did that for me this month :)
46humouress
Well, I've finished Lirael which fits challenge 2 (has the word 'wool' on the first page of the first chapter). But I plan to fit my books into challenges at the end of the month, per my usual habit.
47cbl_tn
Challenge #15: Read a book you've owned for more than 10 years or that's been on your TBR list for more than 10 years
Completely self-serving since I have a couple of books I can't place in other challenges that both fit this criteria. Library books or other borrowed books are fine, as long as they've been on your TBR/wishlist for 10+ years. Mental lists count.
ETA: You can read a newer edition of a book (new edition published less than 10 years ago) as long as the earlier edition was published more than 10 years ago and you intended to read the earlier edition.
Completely self-serving since I have a couple of books I can't place in other challenges that both fit this criteria. Library books or other borrowed books are fine, as long as they've been on your TBR/wishlist for 10+ years. Mental lists count.
ETA: You can read a newer edition of a book (new edition published less than 10 years ago) as long as the earlier edition was published more than 10 years ago and you intended to read the earlier edition.
48DeltaQueen50
>47 cbl_tn: Thank you for your challenge, Carrie. I originally entered
Moloka'i in 2010 and I am finally planning on reading it this month but couldn't find a challenge for it. :)
Moloka'i in 2010 and I am finally planning on reading it this month but couldn't find a challenge for it. :)
49quondame
>47 cbl_tn: I am suddenly grateful that in 2011 I put all sorts of public domain books on my Kindle. There is bound to be something among them for this challenge. Of course I have many many physical books I've owned for decades, but generally have read the ones I want to read. I only started with TBR lists relatively recently, so that's not much help.
50Chatterbox
>47 cbl_tn: Do re-reads count?? Every month I end up re-reading books I have enjoyed. There def. are others that have been lingering on my digital/physical TBR mountains for 10 years, but it would be fun to mix it up for this challenge!
51cbl_tn
>50 Chatterbox: Sure! As long as you've owned it more than 10 years that's fine.
52quondame
>51 cbl_tn: Good, because I realized I had not read Marianne, the Magus, and the Manticore for quite some time, though well into recorded history.
53Chatterbox
Cool! Though I did just discover a book on my Kindle that's been lurking around in either paperback or Kindle format for well over a decade... :-) Which reminds me that it's now been almost 14 years since I acquired my first Kindle!
54Helenliz
Hoping Madeline doesn't mind me posting here, but as a thread with a variety of visitors, it's a good place to canvass for ideas.
I'm looking for ideas of poetry,readings etc that feature bells &/or bellringing.
Any ideas, throw them my way.
Thanks
I'm looking for ideas of poetry,readings etc that feature bells &/or bellringing.
Any ideas, throw them my way.
Thanks
55raidergirl3
>54 Helenliz: A Single Thread by Tracy Chevalier has bell-ringing in it. Check the tags for bell-ringing, it might have some other ideas
56quondame
>54 Helenliz: There are background bells all throughout The Hands of the Emperor and some magic associated with bells is important though not prominent.
In Niccolo Rising there is a scene where bells are sewn to his clothing.
In Niccolo Rising there is a scene where bells are sewn to his clothing.
57Kristelh
The Nine Tailors by Dorothy Sayers features bells.
58Helenliz
>55 raidergirl3:, >57 Kristelh: thanks, those two I did know of.
>56 quondame: those I did not.
It's a rather specialist subject area, I grant you. Not sure there's enough scope for a TIOLI challenge - you're safe there!
>56 quondame: those I did not.
It's a rather specialist subject area, I grant you. Not sure there's enough scope for a TIOLI challenge - you're safe there!
59Helenliz
I very nearly ran foul of my own challenge. I read The man who mistook his wife for a hat and while a lot of it was new to me, I struggled to articulate what it was I'd learnt. Vague descriptions allowed - if I need dispensation, so do you!
60Citizenjoyce
Is anyone else having trouble getting to the Wiki today?
61SqueakyChu
>60 Citizenjoyce: I just tried. Can’t get in. If it doesn’t get resolved in a reasonable amount of time, message admin.
62raidergirl3
>60 Citizenjoyce:, >61 SqueakyChu: There is a bug report already: https://www.librarything.com/topic/358874#n8507903
63Citizenjoyce
>62 raidergirl3: Thanks. I had to go to work and had no time to report it.
64lindapanzo
>61 SqueakyChu: I was just able to get into the Wiki and make a change.
65SqueakyChu
>64 lindapanzo: Hurray!!
66SqueakyChu
TIOLI Question of the Month
What are some of the things about which you've learned in your reading this month? This question is not only about themes of non-fiction books, but it's also about fiction, authors, publishers, book marketing, and anything else that you found notable or surprising. Tell us. We're all ears! :D
What are some of the things about which you've learned in your reading this month? This question is not only about themes of non-fiction books, but it's also about fiction, authors, publishers, book marketing, and anything else that you found notable or surprising. Tell us. We're all ears! :D
67Kristelh
I learned that Penelope Fitzgerald author of the 1979 Booker winner, Offshore, actually lived on a barge and based her book on that experience. Also that she won the Booker almost by default. Her book was chosen when the committee could not decide between A Bend in the River and Darkness Visible. I found this interesting.
68dallenbaugh
>66 SqueakyChu: I recently read The Coming Wave about how AI will eventually affect almost every aspect of our lives. He explains what he thinks are the positive advantages as well as the negative features which if not contained could overwhemingly harm us.
69quondame
I am currently reading about the Warburg family. There is a lot to learn there. It includes passages about the attitude of the German Jews toward the eastern European Jews, which had some impact on my husband's rather large (11 children in his father's generation) family.
70Citizenjoyce
From Her Country: How the Women of Country Music Became the Success They Were Never Supposed to Be by Marissa R. Moss I learned that country music radio stations have gone through a long period of not playing music by female artists. Their explanation is that country music is like a salad. You need lots of lettuce (represented by male artists) and just a sprinkling of tomatoes (the women). Even when women were winning Grammys they still didn't want to play them. They think they define "true" country and they want to protect it from people of color, queer people, and women who are not properly feminine. I imagine Beyonce has them pulling their hair out.
71raidergirl3
>13 Citizenjoyce: Joyce, would the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 qualify for your challenge? Not sure if I'll get to it, but I have The Rebel Heart around here.
72Citizenjoyce
>71 raidergirl3: Sounds good to me.
73susanna.fraser
>66 SqueakyChu: I learned that just because a fantasy novel has "Tea" in the title doesn't necessarily mean it's cozy! I enjoyed A Tempest of Tea, but it was SO much darker than I was expecting!
74Helenliz
I'm learning (as if I really needed reminding) that rave reviews are no guarantor of the quality of a book. It's not awful, but it's certainly nothing like as good as all that.
75SqueakyChu
TIOLI Stats for March 2024
Our numbers are a bit down for March, 2024. They aren't too bad...but I'm just sayin' our reading is slowing down. I'm not innocent of this either for various reasons, some of those not bad.
For the month of March, 2024, we had 13 challenges in which we read a total of 292 books. We shared 55 books or 19% of what we read. We accumulated a total of 30 TIOLI points for a March YTD total of 109 TIOLI points. That's just 3 short of where we were last year at this time.
Our most popular books (each read by three challengers) were these:
---The Black Arrow by Robert Louis Stevenson
---Martin Dressler: The Tale of an American Dreamer by Steven Millhauser
---Fire Weather by John Vaillant
---Walk through Fire: The Train Disaster that Changed America by Yasmine Ali
---Gin, Turpentine, Pennyroyal, Rue by Christine Higdon
Our most popular challenge (with 71 books read) was the one by @DeltaQueen50 to read a book where there is at least one embedded word of 3 letters or more in the author’s name
Our challenges with the most TIOLI points (four each) were:
--The challenge to read a book whose author has three names (or initials) by @wandering_star
--The challenge to read a book where there is at least one embedded word of 3 letters or more in the author’s name by @DeltaQueen50
--The challenge to read a book about fire or with a picture of fire on the cover by @Citizenjoyce
Ever onward, challengers!
Our numbers are a bit down for March, 2024. They aren't too bad...but I'm just sayin' our reading is slowing down. I'm not innocent of this either for various reasons, some of those not bad.
For the month of March, 2024, we had 13 challenges in which we read a total of 292 books. We shared 55 books or 19% of what we read. We accumulated a total of 30 TIOLI points for a March YTD total of 109 TIOLI points. That's just 3 short of where we were last year at this time.
Our most popular books (each read by three challengers) were these:
---The Black Arrow by Robert Louis Stevenson
---Martin Dressler: The Tale of an American Dreamer by Steven Millhauser
---Fire Weather by John Vaillant
---Walk through Fire: The Train Disaster that Changed America by Yasmine Ali
---Gin, Turpentine, Pennyroyal, Rue by Christine Higdon
Our most popular challenge (with 71 books read) was the one by @DeltaQueen50 to read a book where there is at least one embedded word of 3 letters or more in the author’s name
Our challenges with the most TIOLI points (four each) were:
--The challenge to read a book whose author has three names (or initials) by @wandering_star
--The challenge to read a book where there is at least one embedded word of 3 letters or more in the author’s name by @DeltaQueen50
--The challenge to read a book about fire or with a picture of fire on the cover by @Citizenjoyce
Ever onward, challengers!
76Citizenjoyce
>75 SqueakyChu: I've noticed people are reading less too. I wonder why. Maybe everyone is outdoors enjoying the spring.
77alcottacre
>75 SqueakyChu: March was a pretty good reading month for me personally, but April has been awful. Still, as you say, ever onward!
78alcottacre
>76 Citizenjoyce: In my case, Joyce, I have been going through a book funk this month. I hate those things! Lol
79lindapanzo
Fortunately, I’ve had four straight above average reading months, in terms of quantity and quality. I don’t recall this happening since before the pandemic I’d say.
Since Dad was diagnosed with dementia almost 5 years ago, Mom hadn’t read at all but now she’s read a few books a month the past few months. I’m so glad.
The other day, I was telling her about the casting of The Thursday Murder Club movie and she even asked me to pick up a copy of that book and started reading it the day it arrived.
Since Dad was diagnosed with dementia almost 5 years ago, Mom hadn’t read at all but now she’s read a few books a month the past few months. I’m so glad.
The other day, I was telling her about the casting of The Thursday Murder Club movie and she even asked me to pick up a copy of that book and started reading it the day it arrived.
80Kristelh
My best month of books read was February with 12, March was 11 and January 10. I have struggled a bit in April with packing, traveling, etc. I have 2 to 3 books l’d like to get done yet. TIOLI for March has not matched up well for me especially this month.
81Citizenjoyce
>79 lindapanzo: What good news about your mother. Reading is such a comfort, I'm glad she can again enjoy it.
82lindapanzo
>75 SqueakyChu: Madeline, I love that you post which books were our most popular in the previous month. I read a lot of new and soon to be released mysteries and certainly plenty of obscure baseball books so I rarely introduce a popular book but I am happy that the book I read about the Waverly Train Accident of 1978, Walk Through Fire: The Train Disaster That Changed America by Yasmine Ali was one of the most popular for last month.
It doesn't even need to be a most popular TIOLI book for me to feel gratified though. I'd never heard any LT mentions of Cold Crematorium: Reporting from the Land of Auschwitz by Hungarian poet and journalist József Debreczeni but have been happy that other TIOLI readers have taken that one up. It's probably my top book, still, of 2024.
It doesn't even need to be a most popular TIOLI book for me to feel gratified though. I'd never heard any LT mentions of Cold Crematorium: Reporting from the Land of Auschwitz by Hungarian poet and journalist József Debreczeni but have been happy that other TIOLI readers have taken that one up. It's probably my top book, still, of 2024.
83SqueakyChu
Here they are...the TIOLI Awards for March, 2024
The Many Happy Returns Award goes to @AlcottAcre for this challenger's “It’s My Birthday Challenge” to read a book that has either the numbers 03, 14, or 62 in its ISBN number. We always love to celebrate happy occasions with our fellow challengers!
The It Took Me So Long To Say That Award goes to @paulstalder for reading Lausbubengeschichten for the challenge by Chatterbox to read a book whose title has only one word, but the word is polysyllabic. Not only is the title of this book one word and polysyllabic, but it also contains 21 letters. What a mouthful!
The Let's Watch a Movie Award goes to @avatiakh for reading Wild Pork and Watercress for the challenge by lindapanzo to read a book connected to "the movies". This book was made into the movie "Hunt for the Wilderpeople" which I recently saw on Kanopy, a free streaming service I discovered compliments of my public library.
The Those Were the Days Award goes to @Fameulstee for reading both Asterix and Cleopatra and Asterix and the Banquet and to @quondame for reading Over Sea, Under Stone. All of these books had been published in 1965, the year I graduated from high school. Yes, indeed. That was a while ago! :D
Congrats, award winners! Please feel free to add awards of your own at this time.
The Many Happy Returns Award goes to @AlcottAcre for this challenger's “It’s My Birthday Challenge” to read a book that has either the numbers 03, 14, or 62 in its ISBN number. We always love to celebrate happy occasions with our fellow challengers!
The It Took Me So Long To Say That Award goes to @paulstalder for reading Lausbubengeschichten for the challenge by Chatterbox to read a book whose title has only one word, but the word is polysyllabic. Not only is the title of this book one word and polysyllabic, but it also contains 21 letters. What a mouthful!
The Let's Watch a Movie Award goes to @avatiakh for reading Wild Pork and Watercress for the challenge by lindapanzo to read a book connected to "the movies". This book was made into the movie "Hunt for the Wilderpeople" which I recently saw on Kanopy, a free streaming service I discovered compliments of my public library.
The Those Were the Days Award goes to @Fameulstee for reading both Asterix and Cleopatra and Asterix and the Banquet and to @quondame for reading Over Sea, Under Stone. All of these books had been published in 1965, the year I graduated from high school. Yes, indeed. That was a while ago! :D
Congrats, award winners! Please feel free to add awards of your own at this time.
84avatiakh
>83 SqueakyChu: Thanks for the award Madeline. Both the movie and the book are excellent.
85quondame
>83 SqueakyChu: Thank you, Madeline!
86alcottacre
>82 lindapanzo: I, for one, am happy to have read Cold Crematorium, Linda, and appreciate your mentioning the book for TIOLI since I otherwise might not have done so. It is an important read.
>83 SqueakyChu: Thanks for the award, Madeline! Congratulations to all the winners!
>83 SqueakyChu: Thanks for the award, Madeline! Congratulations to all the winners!
88FAMeulstee
>83 SqueakyChu: Thanks for the award, Madeline, I just turned two that year ;-)
89avatiakh
>82 lindapanzo: I ordered a copy of Cold Crematorium late last year and am making my way through it right now. I also got Auschwitz Report by Primo Levi & Leonardo De Benedetti out from the library.
90SqueakyChu
Housekeeping Day!
You know the drill. Please remove from the April 2024 wiki any book you do noy finish by 12 midnight tonight. In the case of rolling challenges, just marking them DNF will do. Thanks!
You know the drill. Please remove from the April 2024 wiki any book you do noy finish by 12 midnight tonight. In the case of rolling challenges, just marking them DNF will do. Thanks!
91Helenliz
Just a reminder, books in challenge 3 need an actual thing you learnt from the book you read.
There are a couple entered that don't currently have that, or have a "hoping to learn" statement. I'm hoping that the book met your expectations.
A book without a thing you learnt will not count for the challenge, so you might want to check your entries.
There are a couple entered that don't currently have that, or have a "hoping to learn" statement. I'm hoping that the book met your expectations.
A book without a thing you learnt will not count for the challenge, so you might want to check your entries.

