Bugs for new Work Page

I'd like to start a place for bugs for the new work page so that the New Features thread (https://www.librarything.com/topic/368057) can be used for reactions more than bugs.

Carrying over from bugs mentioned in that thread, we have these known issues:
- Date field input formatting
- Additional authors missing
- Tag translations
- Book Haiku attributions

Title changes to 'No Title' when you delete a book.

(FIXED)
On traditional Chinese site, the (primary, secondary, original) language lists shows the site language "traditional Chinese (正體中文)" which is not support in the book data. So selecting "traditional Chinese" appears to function the same as selecting "Chinese (中文)".


From the standpoint of functionality, "traditional Chinese" option is a duplicate.

In addition, it may give false impression that the Site Improvements below are implemented.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/361216 More verbose options for Chinese languages other than just "Chinese"
https://www.librarything.com/topic/66504 Language - It ain't all Chinese to me!

Therefore, I suggest removing the "traditional Chinese" option and keep the "Chinese" option.

The same issue is also on the simplified Chinese (简体中文) site.

>3 HsuBattery: Ah, thank you! I think I understand now. The name of the site language in this case shouldn't be there, but instead it should use the one in the selector.

>2 MarthaJeanne: Title changes to 'No Title' when you delete a book.

Can you explain this a bit more. Do you mean that when you delete it book it directs you to a page where the title is "No Title"? What would you expect it to do when you delete a book?

Not sure if it's a bug, but the Quicklinks Quick Facts classifications don't seem to take into account CK Canonical DDC/MDS data and instead just display the most frequently used DDC/MDS classification. Generally, that's fine, but in some cases, the Quicklinks Quick Facts entry will be inaccurate as a result.

I noticed this for Soul Music, which shows a Quicklinks Quick Facts DDC of 813 (American fiction), although the CK field correctly specifies 823.914 (English fiction, 1945-1999). I haven't found an LCC example yet, but presumably the same logic applies.

ETA: Yes, I meant Quick Facts--no idea what my brain was doing there!

>3 HsuBattery: Okay, I think I made the fix you're describing. Please let me know if it looks right now.

>6 InfoQuest: but the Quicklinks classifications don't seem to take into account CK Canonical DDC/MDS data

We will look at this. I also assume you mean quick facts.

>5 knerd.knitter: I would expect the work page to have the work title.

Not doing any more weeding because it was so difficult. The whole thing is just too hard to use.

>7 knerd.knitter: The first red arrow in screenshot of #3 is fixed.
The second red arrow also need the fix.

>9 MarthaJeanne: I would expect the work page to have the work title.

Thank you for explaining. I'd like to clarify, when you delete a book (from the Overview page?) then it's redirecting to the work and it says "No Title"? I did not see this happen when I tried deleting some test books. Do you have a link to the work that it was?

>10 HsuBattery: The second red arrow also need the fix

So you want Chinese, Simplified and Chinese, Traditional to be removed from that list entirely.

(I am doing this based on ids in source code, so I hope I'm getting it right...)

>12 knerd.knitter: Thank you!

>13 HsuBattery: How does it look now?

>14 knerd.knitter:
Now it looks like this (for English books).


The "traditional Chinese" option is now gone.

I know site language (Chinese in this case) is intended to be placed above the separating line.
However, the "Chinese" option happens to be sorted just below the separating line on both TC and SC sites.
I think it looks fine as it is.

Of course, having an additional "Chinese" option above the separating line is also appreciated.

Date finished sorting bug. If I add a date finished tapping on the current date of the calendar. It’s sorting backwards. In other words, I’ve added finishing dates for today for three books. The earliest one of those is currently sorted at the top of my library Sorted by date with the second book finished second and the third book finished third. where instead the book finished first should be third the second book second and the most recent at the top.

I see many BUGS
For example: Jade: Kunst der Qing-Dynastie, 1644-1911
Book: 280041215

In edit mode:
Catalog for an exhibition with 91 artifacts:
1. Vienna, Austria: Museum für Völkerkunde: 1994-05-05 to 1994-07-10
The museum is now named Weltmuseum Wien
_____________________________________________________________________
INHALT

Zum Geleit -- Dr. Peter Kann (Direktor)
Jade
Nephrit
Jadeit
Yu
Bearbeitung von Jade
Jade in der chinesischen Kulturgeschichte
Jade in der chinesischen Kunst
Die Jadekunst in der Qing-Dynastie
Hindustan-Jade

Zeittafel

Objekte der Ausstellung
- Jadearbeiten im Stil alter chinesischerr Bronzen
- Hindustan-Jade
- Tafelgeschirr
- Gefässe mit naturalistischer Dekor
- Schreibutensilien
- Stellschirme, Laternen, Bergskulptur
- Achat - Berkristall - Türkis
- Figürliche Darstellungen aus Jade
- Schmuck - Accessoires und Diverses

This used to display with line breaks, etc.

NOW:
Catalog for an exhibition with 91 artifacts: 1. Vienna, Austria: Museum für Völkerkunde: 1994-05-05 to 1994-07-10 The museum is now named Weltmuseum Wien _____________________________________________________________________ INHALT Zum Geleit -- Dr. Peter Kann (Direktor) Jade Nephrit Jadeit Yu Bearbeitung von Jade Jade in der chinesischen Kulturgeschichte Jade in der chinesischen Kunst Die Jadekunst in der Qing-Dynastie Hindustan-Jade Zeittafel Objekte der Ausstellung - Jadearbeiten im Stil alter chinesischerr Bronzen - Hindustan-Jade - Tafelgeschirr - Gefässe mit naturalistischer Dekor - Schreibutensilien - Stellschirme, Laternen, Bergskulptur - Achat - Berkristall - Türkis - Figürliche Darstellungen aus Jade - Schmuck - Accessoires und Diverses

MORE BUGS TO FOLLOW!

Unfortunately when printing out this page the same mess appears.

Perplexed in Vienna
JOHN

This might be a bug, but probably just involves some kind of fumble fingers.

I added https://www.librarything.com/work/28541742/edit/279924249 two days ago. I went from the add screen to the edit-your-work screen. I customarily modify fields in order as they appeared on the screen. But when I looked at the page today, rating and tags were unset, and media was still set to "paper book". Of the fields I generally modify via edit (not on the add screen) only reading dates and "from where" were set.

As I recall, when I got to the date fields, I found they wouldn't accept input in the old format of 2024-12-24 and wound up in a long rabbit hole reading and commenting on these threads, before taking a guess that I should try standard local format, which worked.

It's possible that I simply didn't click "save" with my earlier input, before entering that rabbit hole, and wound up opening a new edit window to experiment (successfully) with date formats. If you have no other reports of data loss, that's probably what happened.

I'm posting this while I have the details in my head just in case there are other reports of edits that didn't take, or took only partially, where the user is certain they clicked "save" in the appropriate window.

--
Not relevant to the bug thread, but thank you for the changes I now see on the edit screen. The save button is always visible, so people are less likely to forget to click it. And the annoying enter-date-using-a-calendar UI is gone (Safari 17.5)

A couple of things:

1- when customising the blue 'Your book' box, the lending box cannot be unticked.
2- the X for closing overlaps the 'unselected' box

3- I also notice that in the 'Related Works; Contains' section, if I have a related work, the (grey pyramid) icon is sliced in half. (I got awfully excited for a second there - at first I thought it might be a new icon that would show in the series lists whether I had a work contained in another work, even if I didn't have it as an individual work.)



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Possible bug in the Author Information in the new Work page? I can no longer edit the Primary Author of a work where the automatic "calculated" Primary Author is blank. The Primary Author is editable if there is something in that field (whether a "calculated" or "confirmed" author) but when it's empty there is no edit button, so it's just stuck that way. I'm trying this in Firefox on Windows, if that matters.

The example I noticed this on:
https://www.librarything.com/work/33535199/t/The-New-Teen-Titans-Vol-2-11

This might be a design choice, I'm not sure, so apologies if not, but on my 'Your book information' blue tab, the columns are uneven. I know it will vary for each user depending on what fields someone chooses, but I can't seem to figure out what exactly the logic is for what information goes in which column.

The left column has seven data fields, five of those are single lines, and two have the pencil icon, which makes them take up about two lines each.

The right column has four data fields, three of those are single lines, and one is the summary, which cuts off with a '(more)' option after two lines. Interestingly, clicking the '(more)' option bumps the last three field options on the left column down.

Again, this might not be a bug! But if it's a design decision, I don't understand how it's determined to put 7 fields in one column and 4 in the other.

>22 GraceCollection:
If you go to the customize menu, does the location of the items correspond to which column they are listed in there? As I notice the Basic section within there has seven items.

>23 Nevov: No, it doesn't seem to. Pages and volumes are in the rightmost column on the 'customize' menu and the left column of 'Your book information', summary is on the leftmost column of the menu and the right column of 'Your book information.'

>24 GraceCollection: Ah that's a simple theory out of the window then. :-)

>22 GraceCollection: Yeah. It tries to even them but there are some fields that are always full-width fields and aren't included in the calculations, thereby sometimes throwing off the order. Those items are always shown as the last items. But since they line up with the left column it looks like the left column has more items.

>26 conceptDawg: Ah! That makes sense. Thanks.

Not sure if bug or design choice, but I've noticed I can't seem to see a cover bigger unless I go to the covers page. I used to be able to just click the cover in the top left and get it to increase size (I have vision issues). Now I have to navigate to another sub page to do it.

>28 MrKusabi: I can't seem to see a cover bigger unless I go to the covers page

This is a bug. Missing functionality. It will be fixed.

>20 humouress: when customising the blue 'Your book' box, the lending box cannot be unticked Can you explain this? It worked for me.

>21 scott_beeler: I can no longer edit the Primary Author of a work where the automatic "calculated" Primary Author is blank

This is fixed.

>17 johninvienna: Please check this again; I think it is fixed.

The text in CK fields is overlapping when I set my style to The Lorax. Doesn't seem to happen when I select any other style. I'm having trouble getting pictures to load so I can't post a screenshot, but if you look at the first words of The Iliad in The Lorax style you'll see what I mean.

ETA:

>32 knerd.knitter: knerd.knitter

Great !!!

Yes, for example:

https://www.librarything.com/work/33542875/details/280041215

below the bold do not come out - but they do in the display !!!
Having problems with the covers - they are there but do not display!
Many many thanks


Jade: Kunst der Qing-Dynastie, 1644-1911
by Museum für Völkerkunde (Austria) (Corporate Author)
Title
Jade: Kunst der Qing-Dynastie, 1644-1911
Author
Museum für Völkerkunde (Austria)
Rating
Collections
Your library, WELTMUSEUM WIEN, Catalogs - Asia
Tags
Museum für Völkerkunde - Wien exhib. catalogs; folders; flyers, /China - jades/, /Jades -Hindustan/, /China - jades - Qing Dynasty/, /Jades - China/
Review
Not reviewed
Other Authors
Heide Leigh-Theisen (Editor), Jan Wirgin (Author), Michael Weese (Designer), Helga Innerhofer (Graphics), Leila Bauer (Translator), Peter Kann (Preface)
Media
Paperback
Publication Date
1994
Publication
Wien: Museum für Völkerkunde, 1994 (35 p., 16 color ill., 2 b/w ill., chronology; 29.5 cm)
Pages
35
Dimensions
29.5 x 21 x cm
Physical Summary
35 p.; 29.5 cm
Volumes
1
Primary
German
From Where?
Matschnig's Antikkeller

Summary
Jade: Kunst der Qing-Dynastie, 1644-1911 by Museum für Völkerkunde … (more)

Comments
Catalog for an exhibition with 91 artifacts:
1. Vienna, Austria: Museum für Völkerkunde: 1994-05-05 to 1994-07-10
The museum is now named Weltmuseum Wien
_____________________________________________________________________
INHALT

Zum Geleit -- Dr. Peter Kann (Direktor)
Jade
Nephrit
Jadeit
Yu
Bearbeitung von Jade
Jade in der chinesischen Kulturgeschichte
Jade in der chinesischen Kunst
Die Jadekunst in der Qing-Dynastie
Hindustan-Jade

Zeittafel

Objekte der Ausstellung
- Jadearbeiten im Stil alter chinesischerr Bronzen
- Hindustan-Jade
- Tafelgeschirr
- Gefässe mit naturalistischer Dekor
- Schreibutensilien
- Stellschirme, Laternen, Bergskulptur
- Achat - Berkristall - Türkis
- Figürliche Darstellungen aus Jade
- Schmuck - Accessoires und Diverses
Entry Date
2025-01-30
Book ID
280041215
Data Source
manual entry

>30 knerd.knitter: I can untick the lending box in the customisation options, but the box is still there and can be selected.

>35 Maddz: I can untick the lending box in the customisation options, but the box is still there and can be selected.

Oh, you mean the button in the bottom bar next to Edit Book? That's not actually what the Lending checkbox is for; the checkbox is for showing the field on the Book Information section if there is data in it. The button is always there (same as on the old page where there was a little library card icon that linked to the same thing)

>36 knerd.knitter: Ah, right. It would be helpful to make it hideable; for a personal library, it's completely irrelevant unless you are in the habit of loaning books to friends (which I'm not because I've lost too many books that way). I keep clicking it by mistake when in the Overview view.

Covers are very slow in loading. Also, new formatting has any data separated by spaces in the Comments field of an entry, clotted together without any separation. Aesthetically unappealing - and a change from the old format. Spaces between text still turn show up when the entry is viewed in Tiny Cat.

>38 Randy_Hierodule: Covers are very slow in loading

This is a known issue with our servers. It should get better.

any data separated by spaces in the Comments field of an entry, clotted together without any separation

Can you provide a link to a book with this problem so I can see what you mean?

>16 jmnlman: The earliest one of those is currently sorted at the top of my library

Do you mean in your catalog?

When I look at Lord of the Rings, it shows one cover for one of my editions, but when I click on the other edition, it does not change the cover picture.

>38 Randy_Hierodule: For me it's that they aren't loading at all: a cover shows, but it's not the one I chose. Is copying an image address no longer the way to get the correct cover over to this site?

>39 knerd.knitter: Apologies. Paragraph separation was not appearing last I checked, but the issue seems to be resolved. However, and this is a minor quibble, covers periodically do not appear when an item entry is opened for review, EG:

https://www.librarything.com/work/33544155/details/280058593

I uploaded that cover a day or so ago.

Thank you

I tried edit message, but it did not seem to work:
When I look at Lord of the Rings, it shows one cover for one of my editions, but when I click on the other edition, it does not change the cover picture. What I should say, is it only shows the work cover, not the cover I chose for my edition. How can I see that on the work or book page again?

>41 al.vick: When I look at Lord of the Rings, it shows one cover for one of my editions, but when I click on the other edition, it does not change the cover picture.

Can you provide links to the two books?

Actually, I see that is true for books I only have one copy of. It shows the work cover, not the cover I chose. I HATE this.

https://www.librarything.com/work/1386651/book/86289699, https://www.librarything.com/work/1386651/119760032

But again, as I noted this is happening for all my books. I don't want to see the work cover, I want to see my chosen cover. What gives? I did not think it was doing this yesterday, but maybe I had chosen the common cover for books I looked at yesterday.

>46 al.vick: >47 al.vick:

Oh! I think I know what happened; I'm sorry, this was my fault! I will get it fixed.

That would be fantastic!!!!

Looks like the covers are now back to my chosen covers. Thanks a million!!!!

>33 amanda4242: This is also happening on author pages when using The Lorax style. See the short biography for K. X. Song.

I am not sure if this fits here but there is a mix up with "Hexe" by Jenni Fagan and "A Harlot High and Low" by Honoré de Balzac: https://www.librarything.com/work/52003/book/280104286

>52 PersephonesLibrary: That's a combination problem. I've separated your book and combined it with the correct work.

>53 amanda4242: Amazing. Thank you, Amanda!

>52 PersephonesLibrary: If you get one of these in the future, we have a group to help with these: https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/460/Combiners%21 :)

>55 AnnieMod: Thanks, Annie! I put that in my bookmarks!

>40 knerd.knitter: yeah if you look at my catalog and sort by finished date the Nagatoro volumes should be in reverse order. Since the newest is at the top. Weirdly the book on Sparta has migrated to its proper place.

I'm on Chrome browser. Using a laptop. Not sure if this is a bug, but when I'm on the Edit Book page and click anywhere to the right of Collections (screenshot below: in the large empty white space circled in blue), an unintended selection is made for a collection--a checkbox is selected or unselected. That whole area seems to be "active." Seems like an easy way to accidentally add/remove a book to/from a collection and not even know you did it -- cause I just did it on two books I was editing and didn't mean to.

>33 amanda4242: The Lorax and CK fields
That overlap is fixed.

>58 flying_monkeys: That's ok. That entire checkbox area is going to get replaced. Maybe in the next few hours.

On the edit book page, with Media set, select "show complete list" in the Media menu.

This has the very much unwanted side effect of erasing the value you'd already set for Media.

You get the same result if you set your Media again, and then select "show short list".

Safari 17.5

Note: this is in addition to the presumably intended change, where "show complete list" has to be set every time you load the edit book screen - it used to be persistent.

>61 ArlieS: Note: this is in addition to the presumably intended change, where "show complete list" has to be set every time you load the edit book screen - it used to be persistent.

This was not an intended change. I did not know that was the previous behavior. We will get it fixed.

I don't know if anyone else uses double-click and drag to select words, but it's a pretty standard feature in Windows at least. You can try it here: double click on any word, hold the mouse down after the second click, and then drag along the line. It selects the word that you double clicked on, and then selects word-by-word as you drag.

It's strangely broken in the header of an author combine/separate page, e.g. https://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=geevesphilip

If you double-click on Philip and hold the mouse down and drag to the right, it should automatically select Geeves as you move over it - but instead it selects Geeves and the word Combine. (Actually, there's a simpler case: if you just double-click on Geeves it selects both Geeves and Combine.)

When editing a book in the narrow view (Firefox, Android), using System Standard style, the green save button appears to be floating on top, but if I don't hit it exactly right, any field inputs behind the float are selected - this happens if it's a text field or a radio list or a drop down list.

Also, when adding books manually, the 3 language fields all defaulted to English, instead of blank. I noticed that a French book had them all set to French when I edited it, but I was experimenting with the minimal mode and don't know if it picked the langage up after I saved the ISBN.

eta: I don't mind if Primary Language is defaulted to the language of the site I'm on, but it seems odd for the other two, especially when my understanding is that they're meant to be blank if there isn't a secondary language/the book isn't a translation.

>63 r.orrison: Can confirm I just got this behavior while long-tapping on Geeves on my phone - it also selected "Combine" but not the angle bracket.

>39 knerd.knitter: By the way: You people are great. LT is a life saver, potholes aside - my attempt to impose order on my accumulating havoc was becoming a psychosis prior to ... was it 2006? Thank you all!

>63 r.orrison: I use double-click to select a line of stuff from talk once in a while and have noticed that if I select the last line in a talk post I get an extra gift. The Reply | More is also copy although I cannot see that it is selected. If I very carefully select just the last line and not the extra space on the end of the line, I just get what I want and not Reply | More. Did that make sense?

Example: copy via double-click on the last line of >59 conceptDawg: gives me:

That overlap is fixed.
Reply | More
Maybe the weird/unexpected thing is that I can't see if Reply | More is selected?

ETA: Ah, this seems like a browser artifact on my side (Chrome on linux). So just forget about it :-)

>30 knerd.knitter: Sorry, have been out and about. What >35 Maddz: said.

(FIXED)
I'm not sure if this has been reported.
The (start, finish) reading date fields dropdown menu covers the date selector.

Chrome


Edge

Dates on the edit book details page are now showing in US format and not ISO standard YYYY-MM-DD.

>48 knerd.knitter: Thank you!

I love the new changes which work well for me both on desktop and mobile. Many thanks to the LT staff for all the hard work.

A buglet. If I click on an author name other than that of the main author at the top of the Work page I get a screen blank except for the text “No author selected”. If I click on the same name in the “Author information” section I am taken to the correct page. It happens in both Chrome and Firefox on Windows 10.

Here are some examples:

https://www.librarything.com/work/139362
https://www.librarything.com/work/33192864
https://www.librarything.com/work/25370800
https://www.librarything.com/work/12887394

A couple of combiney bugs:

Rarely, when combining some obscure titles, the largest edition has no author (say 2 copies no author, versus 1 and 1 and 1 which each have a variety of the same author name), which leads to the work showing no primary author after combining – this is the same as prior to the update.

What's different now, is you used to be able to Recalculate title/author at this point, and as long as some of the other lesser editions had an author name, it would pull the most popular into the primary author. Now hitting recalculate doesn't have any effect and the author remains blank.

Example if you need one to try on: https://www.librarything.com/work/27517778/

And, the Recalculate editions option isn't available any more on the /editions subpage, it used to appear in the right-sidebar there. Can't see it in the helper hub either.

>63 r.orrison: That selection bug is fixed.
That was a very strange one indeed. And took some creativity to fix.

>67 bnielsen: I'll have to see about correcting that with a similar fix to the previous selection bug. It's a tough one.

Go to page of a work with more than one author, eg https://www.librarything.com/work/14300642

Where it says "The Coen Brothers Collection - The Big Lebowski/The Hudsucker Proxy/Barton Fink/Blood Simple
by Ethan Coen (Director), Joel Coen (Director), Jeff Bridges (Actor), John Goodman (Actor), Julianne Moore (Actor)(show all 12)"

Click on any author after the first, and you get taken to https://www.librarything.com/author/

More language issues, in addition to the ones mentioned in >64 keristars:

On the manual entry page, when selecting the option to "show all languages" the input box becomes wider than before. Is that desired behaviour?

And to reiterate what keristars said: when adding books manually, the three languages (primary, secondary, original) set to English. The unneeded languages must be manually set to blank, either on the manual entry page, or later, by editing the work.

>77 Petroglyph: That box had always gotten wider when you go for all languages - it is needed because some of the languages have long names.

>77 Petroglyph: looks like the box widens to accommodate "Portuguese based pidgins and creoles", but not in the narrow view, when the box is already at max width.

Re covers:

✅ Firstly, I like the new layout; it's easier to see the details.

(Caveat - they're taking a long time to load which might be my internet connection though it hasn't been a noticeable issue before.

I have another window open waiting for it to load but I'm going to go ahead with writing this post.)

In the 'Covers' tab with Members and Amazon covers, it shows a limited number of covers (as before) but the 'show more' button has disappeared. The first time I looked, the one under the Amazon covers was still there but that seems to have disappeared too. (On the page I've half loaded, all the Amazon covers fit on the page so I can't confirm yet.)

ETA: I've had that window open for about 5 minutes and all of the member uploaded covers are showing a blank box with a blue question mark in them.

ETA 2: I refreshed the page and most of the covers are showing (all the Amazon ones are fine). Of 23 member covers, only 10 fit on the page but 4 of those are showing as blank boxes with the question mark.

ETA 3: So the 'show more' button is appearing for Amazon covers (for both ISBNs and ASINs) but not for Member Uploaded covers (which, I assume, would be more important).

eg The White Dragon

Re covers:

✅ Firstly, I like the new layout; it's easier to see the details.

(Caveat - they're taking a long time to load which might be my internet connection though it hasn't been a noticeable issue before.

I have another window open waiting for it to load but I'm going to go ahead with writing this post.)

In the 'Covers' tab with Members and Amazon covers, it shows a limited number of covers (as before) but the 'show more' button has disappeared. The first time I looked, the one under the Amazon covers was still there but that seems to have disappeared too. (On the page I've half loaded, all the Amazon covers fit on the page so I can't confirm yet.)

ETA: I've had that window open for about 5 minutes and all of the member uploaded covers are showing a blank box with a blue question mark in them.

ETA 2: I refreshed the page and most of the covers are showing (all the Amazon ones are fine). Of 23 member covers, only 10 fit on the page but 4 of those are showing as blank boxes with the question mark.

ETA 3: So the 'show more' button is appearing for Amazon covers (for both ISBNs and ASINs).

Oh wait - I have a tab open with The White Dragon and there's no 'show more' button for Member Uploaded Covers there but I opened The White Dragon on this tab (to get a link to the Covers page) and the 'show more' button is there for Members' Covers. But it's still not showing in the other tab. Sorry if I'm confusing you; I'm confused myself. But there does seem to be an issue here ... somewhere.

There are a vast number of span tag translation elements in the translation page for the new book page, things like:
<span id="tr2798506643" class="trans">Рецензии</span>

They seem to be every translation of some single word translations into different languages - Descriptions and Recommendations.

I'm in the Te Reo Māori Translation page, haven't looked to see if they are across languages, but they are swamping the text that actually needs to be translated.

I can't see how to enter 'reading dates'. I haven't really kept track of my reading dates but I can work out from my posts and reviews when I finished a book. Now that 'reading date' appears in the blue box, I thought I would try and put them in.

However, when I click on edit, it goes to the edit page (so far so good). When I try to enter a date into the 'Reading Date; Finshed' box it gets a bit difficult; either I can click 181 times to get from February 2025 to January 2010 (for example) or (it's a bit slow at the moment) I can type in 201001 or 01 2010 (it doesn't give me a format) but when I save it, it shows 'Entry Date: 29 Jan 2010'. It doesn't show it as a reading date and I don't know where the 29 is coming from. I have a vague memory (could be wrong) that previously I could just enter the month and year without the day.

>80 humouress: and >83 humouress:

The LT team are aware of the issues with covers and with dates.
The reason the covers take so long to load is that it’s the first time they’re being loaded with the new page and the image servers are overloaded.

Two issues with the "Edit Book" page (which is also the Manual Add page):

1. The "Sort Character" field is misleading. The option that says "First Character" actually means "Automatic". I just manually added a book starting with "The" and left the sort character field on the default ("First Character") and it sorted by the 5th character (as it should.)

2. The 3 language fields (Primary, Secondary, Original) all default to "English" instead of "(blank)". Even assuming this is based on my language and not displaying "English" for everyone, I think it sets people up to accidentally add bad data instead of no data.

The bug with the tag-cloud being in French on non-English sites is fixed.

>78 AnnieMod:
>79 keristars:

Prior to these changes selecting "show all languages" activated that option for all the language boxes, keeping them all at the same length. Now, it only widens the one you click in, making the three boxes look uneven.

Not only have the aesthetics changed, but also the functionality: showing all languages now needs to be activated for each separate language box whereas that was not the case before.

I know why they become wider; I was pointing out a noticeable change in aesthetics and functionality that may or may not have been an unintentional consequence of changing 7k lines of code. I still don't know whether it's supposed to work like that or not.

>87 Petroglyph: Ah - I missed that part. It does not really bother me (I rarely need two non-standard languages together) but yes, I can now see the change in behavior.

In view mode, CK field Related movies does not have clickable links. You need to be in edit mode to be able to open the linked IMDB page.

There might be other such cases. Are blurbers supposed to be clickable, for instance, like characters, places etc?

CAN WE PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD SYSTEM FOR COVERS, WHICH ACTUALLY WORKED?

At present I frequently can't find the cover I want, and if by some miracle I do, I can't change the cover on the work page - I just end up with a blank image where the cover should be.

>88 AnnieMod:

I wouldn't call the problem in >87 Petroglyph: a bug, but that whole language-entry section is more work than it needs to be. I wish there were some way to program it so we could save the languages we use on those menus. I don't think I have anything that has Turkish for any of the languages, but I have a long, long list of Middle English, Classical Greek, and Latin, both in the original languages and in translation. And Middle English isn't on the default menu. It's a lot of work to enter all of them. And no way to change the menu that I've ever found. (If there is one, I would happily learn of it.)

>85 norabelle414: Ah. Yes. It should say "Automatic" there, not "First Character." We'll correct that.

>90 Robertgreaves: This IS the same system.
The image/cover servers just can't keep up with the requests right now. We are working on them.

>92 conceptDawg: Thank you!

If I add the same author twice to my book in two different roles (e.g. author and narrator, author and illustrator, etc.), they only show up once at the top of the book page:
https://www.librarything.com/work/32327053/book/280246015
https://www.librarything.com/work/32526981/book/279188173

It also seems to default to the "other author" role, which then runs afoul of the "other authors not clickable" bug from >72 thalassa_thalassa:

I'm getting the top Headings on some of the new Book pages subpages showing as being untranslated (yellow highlighting) even though they obviously are translated.

It's happening on:
Book Details
Edit Book
Work
Recommendations
Community
Classification
Helper Hub

But weirdly it isn't on:
Reviews
Covers
Descriptions
Editions

I'm logged into the Te Reo Māori site, I haven't checked any other language sites.

It seems likely it is related to this bug that Tim fixed: https://www.librarything.com/topic/368002#8746702

>96 Aquila: I'm not seeing this when I'm in Māori, as I am now. Can you double check that it's true for you, and not a caching thing?

Just checked and I'm seeing it in a browser I'm not logged in in and haven't used for librarything in recent memory, once I switch to Māori
https://www.librarything.com/work/31816725/recommendations

Ah. Try logging in?

Can't log in now, when I click login the login page gets stuck in a choose your language loop. That browser is Edge, so I'm not sure that is worth troubleshooting, let me try the second browser I tried it in.

OK, new private window in firefox, went to a book page recommendations, changed language to Māori and can see the yellow round Ngā Taunaki at the top of the page, tried to login, got the ask language loop but realised i can just close the popup, logged in, went back to the page, still seeing yellow round Ngā Taunaki.

Tried a book from my library that I haven't visited since the new pages came in and a different subpage, same thing:
https://www.librarything.com/work/3592063/helperhub/266331070

A book from your collection that I've never visited, yellow around Pūnaha whakarōpū at the top:
https://www.librarything.com/work/32238620/classification/276315362

Note, none of these have yellow around them in the lefthand menu.

>73 Nevov: you used to be able to Recalculate title/author at this point

That was actually not doing anything, so I'm fixing that.

As far as Recalculate editions, I didn't know that was there. We'll get it back.

>73 Nevov: Recalculate editions option isn't available any more

This should be back in a minute.

>57 jmnlman: yeah if you look at my catalog and sort by finished date the Nagatoro volumes should be in reverse order. Since the newest is at the top. Weirdly the book on Sparta has migrated to its proper place.

I don't think this is really a bug since they all have the same finish date, so that value is equal for all of them, and it doesn't go by when you added the finish date.

Please tell me there's a way to expand box when entering a review that I've overlooked--? Being unable to see complete text already entered would make reviewing & even editing a colossal frustration; I'd far rather be told, Hey stupid you missed the obvious way to do it than be confined to amazon-like reviews of I hated it! and Good, but the cover was creased. Cheers.

>101 Aquila: got the ask language loop

Can you lay out the steps more. When you log in, it does and should ask you what language you want if you are in a language that differs from your account preference. That's not a loop, it's making sure you want to be a language that doesn't match your account.

>107 bluepiano: I can drag and expand the review box; are you not seeing the little diagonal "drag-to-expand" lines in the bottom-right corner of the review box? Are you unable to expand the box? If so, please let me know which page you're looking at (there's a few places to edit your review), and what OS and browser you're using, and I can look closer.

>107 bluepiano: There are two little lines across the bottom right hand corner of the review box. If you put your cursor on there, you should be able to pull it down and expand your box.

>41 al.vick: When I look at Lord of the Rings, it shows one cover for one of my editions, but when I click on the other edition, it does not change the cover picture.

Can you provide links to the different books you are looking at?

>109 kristilabrie: This is a browser thing, not everyone will see the same thing.

>64 keristars: >77 Petroglyph: >85 norabelle414:

Regarding default values on Language fields: I changed those so they don't default to the global language.

>112 timspalding: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what they're seeing.

I think this is a bug/oversight: we seem to be missing the "Show More" option on the list view of Recommendations. Confirmed that this existed on the old work page.

>115 kristilabrie: we seem to be missing the "Show More" option on the list view of Recommendations

I actually just pushed a fix for this! Now it just shows them all in the list view, so still now Show More button, but also no need for it.

>108 timspalding: I go to the Sign in Page (by clicking the link at the top right) and the Choose a language box pops up, I select Maori/Maori (I think the first time I had to choose from a lot of languages, now it's one of the four buttons) and the page reloads, and the choose a language box pops up again obscuring the rest of the page. I can close it with the X at the top rights, it just threw me the first time. Had it happen in Opera, Edge and Firefox.

Just tried in Firefox private window and the initial choice from more languages worked to set Māori, when I clicked to another part of the site and then clicked Signin up the top the language picked popped up again and continued to pop up.

>108 timspalding: And further testing, if I select one of the English options instead of Maori from the popup it stops persevering and I get through to the Sign In page underneath. Let me try another language.

Yep, same, I'm not logged in, click the language picker at the top, select Icelandic and it takes, I click around to another page, might be Talk, click login/SignUp (Skrá inn / Vertu með) up the top, the login page opens and language picker pops up, each time I choose Icelandic from the 4 options the page reloads and the language picker pops up again.

(By the way, what does the fifth option, the first option in the popup, mean? An untranslated asterisk slash nothing? Nothing seems to happen except the language popup popsup again when I click that one too. Is something in the broken code for that setting off the other issue? I'd better screencap that.)

I noticed today that when I edit a book, the media is changed to "not set." I cannot correct this through the Edit page....have to double click on Media column from the Book List to change.

This happens each time I edit a book.

Blessings,
Mary

>119 scstudycenter2: I noticed today that when I edit a book, the media is changed to "not set." I cannot correct this through the Edit page....have to double click on Media column from the Book List to change.

I will look at this right away.

>119 scstudycenter2: I think this should be fixed now. Please let me know if it's not.

>118 Aquila: I have screencapped it so you can see the green */ button, but I can't get the image to load in my junkdrawer so I can copy the url to embed it here.

>106 knerd.knitter: It might not be technically a "bug" however it's different then how the system behaved previously. If I changed the finished date for a book at say 10 AM then did a second book at 2 PM the same day it would correctly show that the second book was listed after it. Now it's not which doesn't make much sense.

(Edited to add just to clarify I’m adding a second finished date to a previously read book in the example not trying to override a previous one.)

>123 jmnlman: Did you add the books to your collection then or did you already have them in your catalogue and just changed the read date?

>124 PawsforThought: it was adding a second finished date to those actually.

>109 kristilabrie: >112 timspalding:

I believe the version of Safari I'm using does the right thing.

At least, the box is resizable. I'm not sure whether it starts long enough to display all the existing contents.

>20 humouress: I personally see in the Contains section that all of the icons are consistently offset half a line below the text:

>116 knerd.knitter: The recommendations section (list view) was previously made shorter because when it shows all 50 items it takes up a whole page. See: https://www.librarything.com/topic/368002#8744904

Not sure if this is bug. When I go back to view the Edit Book page in LT of any record of my collections (either from TinyCat or in LT), I found the primary language field has changed to "blank".
Our selected language for the book however still displaying on the "Your Book Information."
I was shocked when I first found that - 9000+ records to

9000+ records to re-enter!

>129 ECCClibrary: Can confirm original and primary language mysteriously turned to blank on the edit book screen. But it seems a glitch of some sort that hasn't really wiped the data. Both Your Book Info and Book details still show the data.

>131 SandraArdnas:

We'll get this fixed ASAP.

>129 ECCClibrary: >131 SandraArdnas:

Fixed! Sorry about that! No data was cleared, it was just displaying as blank on that screen.

>132 timspalding: Thanks!

>95 norabelle414: Both of these issues have been fixed

Yes. Thanks.

>127 saltmanz: If I go to Cordelia's Honour it still shows as in the screenshot in >20 humouress:. If I look at Young Miles, I have a green tick next to The Warrior's Apprentice which is in line with the text.

ETA: Hmm ... if I go to La Saga Vorkosigan intégrale, Tome 1 : Chute libre ; L'honneur des Cordelia ; Barrayar, the icons are in line (horizontally) with the text but the grey pyramids are inset from the green ticks so the icons are not in line (vertically).

ETA 2: kudos to all the LT staff for all the firefighting you're doing :0)

The 'Your Other Edition' box is always 50% of the width of the 'Your Book Information' box. This looks odd as the space to the right is unpopulated (at least in my set-up).

Example: The Yeoman Of The Guard

Can this be changed so if there is no information to the right of the other edition box it covers the full width? Otherwise, it adds extra scrolling to the page when you have multiple editions of the same work.

>122 Aquila:
Screencap for the recurring language picker box


>82 Aquila:
And of the span tags asking to be translated when I try to translate this page https://www.librarything.com/work/31464494/book/280262085

This is perhaps more of an oversight than a bug, but I'd think you'd like to fix it either way:

One a work page, e.g., The Seven Pillars of Wisdom, if the author has a legacy library, there's an icon to that effect behind their name. However, clicking that icon doesn't take you to the legacy library - it doesn't do anything at all. To get to the legacy page you have to click on the author name and then find the legacy library link from there.

Here's a really nit picky one:

On the new work combine page, if there is no informational banner below the work list, there is no whitespace at all between the last work and the Combine and Cancel buttons:


If there's a banner, there's plenty of whitespace between the last work and the banner, and between the banner and the buttons:

>128 norabelle414: The recommendations section (list view) was previously made shorter because when it shows all 50 items it takes up a whole page

We will work on getting that a show all button; this was the quickest solution.

>141 r.orrison: Adding spacing.

>87 Petroglyph: Prior to these changes selecting "show all languages" activated that option for all the language boxes

Fixed this.

>139 Aquila: No, I get it, but can you explain where you're getting this message and how. I can't reproduce it.

>121 knerd.knitter: Wow. That was fast. Yes, it is fixed now. Thank you for your super swift response.

Blessings,
Mary

>140 AndreasJ: One a work page, e.g., The Seven Pillars of Wisdom, if the author has a legacy library, there's an icon to that effect behind their name. However, clicking that icon doesn't take you to the legacy library - it doesn't do anything at all. To get to the legacy page you have to click on the author name and then find the legacy library link from there.

Okay. On my list.

>145 timspalding: I thought I explained it fairly well in >117 Aquila: and >118 Aquila:

I included the screencap to ask about the green */ button.

Thanks to everyone who replied to my post leaving me hugely relieved and cheers especially to >109 kristilabrie: who let me know exactly what to do

>128 norabelle414: The recommendations section (list view) was previously made shorter because when it shows all 50 items it takes up a whole page.

Got the "Show More" added here finally. Thank you for your patience.

I go to the Sign in Page (by clicking the link at the top right) and the Choose a language box pops up, I select Maori/Maori (I think the first time I had to choose from a lot of languages, now it's one of the four buttons) and the page reloads, and the choose a language box pops up again obscuring the rest of the page. I can close it with the X at the top rights, it just threw me the first time. Had it happen in Opera, Edge and Firefox.

Just tried in Firefox private window and the initial choice from more languages worked to set Māori, when I clicked to another part of the site and then clicked Signin up the top the language picked popped up again and continued to pop up.

1. You're signed in.
2. You click the "Sign out" link at the top right.
3. It takes you to the home page.
4. Off the rails. It doesn't show a language box.

>151 timspalding: No, but if you happen to click to another page before trying to sign in again, you do get it:

Yep, same, I'm not logged in, click the language picker at the top, select Icelandic and it takes, I click around to another page, might be Talk, click login/SignUp (Skrá inn / Vertu með) up the top, the login page opens and language picker pops up, each time I choose Icelandic from the 4 options the page reloads and the language picker pops up again.

I'm have no idea if this is related to the new Work Pages and cover issues or coincidental...
pic 4796826 on https://www.librarything.com/work/214923 is showing as rotated 90 degrees for me on my edition page for the book, and my listing of books (catalog). When on the choose cover page it is oriented correctly.
I don't recall adding/choosing the cover, but I'm fairly sure I would not have chosen a cover that was sideways, especially with how easy getting my own photo of the book would have been.

Cover and Pics loading issues
I have created a separate thread and explanation about what's going on.

Cover and Pics Thread

We'll likely provide updates in both places, but certainly in that thread.

>107 bluepiano: I just realized that some browsers may not actually display those diagonal "drag-to-expand" lines for the Review box. We used to also have a "more space" text link under the bottom-right of the Review box, which was overlooked in the update. We'll add that back in soon-ish, so you can just click-to-expand. I hope that helps.

>107 bluepiano: & >155 kristilabrie:
That "more space" link should now be available to expand those boxes.

>156 conceptDawg: thank you for this! I couldn't get the corner-drag to work on my touchscreen, so this will be helpful when i need it.

>123 jmnlman: If I changed the finished date for a book at say 10 AM then did a second book at 2 PM the same day it would correctly show that the second book was listed after it.

Do you know if you were using the word "now" in the input field when you did this? Because it seems that that may have done it. And now you can enter that in the input field again, so if you do that then I think it'll behave the way you want.

>2 MarthaJeanne: Oh, fun! I've been sporadically searching "No Titles," finding that their editions pages most often suggest combining with a record clearly having the same or similar title and author, and combining them in. At last check just now, I'm up from around 46,000 "works" to 50,652 (and climbing). No sense having many, many, many "No Title" works out there that can be easily combined, but I may oughta pause that effort indefinitely.

I had posted this to a separated thread; it was recommended that I redirect here.
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When I click on a Find It link, like Abebooks or Amazon, the popup that appears with the different ISBN options is obscured by the other sections that occupy the center column, like Your Book Information or Description. I do see the part that extends into Quick Facts or is between sections.

I use the Arc browser on a M4 MacMini, Sequoia 15.3; but have the same issue with Safari and Chrome.

Since first posting, I notice one or two books of the dozens I click on do show the popup. I wonder if it has to do with the general issues with cover images being generated, preventing the popup to complete.

I'd appreciate knowing if I'm the only one with this problem.

>158 knerd.knitter: I was actually using the word “today“ which does seem to now work also. thanks.

>139 Aquila: These strings appear to have been fixed some time ago. When I cleared out the data, they didnt' come back.

>6 InfoQuest: I noticed this for Soul Music, which shows a Quicklinks Quick Facts DDC of 813 (American fiction), although the CK field correctly specifies 823.914 (English fiction, 1945-1999). I haven't found an LCC example yet, but presumably the same logic applies.

I fixed the bug. When you added a canonical DDC, it did correctly make it the answer, but it wasn't considering the CK data on recalculation, which happens periodically across all LibraryThing works.

The LCC system was working as it should have.

It's not actually about to new work page, but it started at the same time so I assume it might be related to these changes. Sorry if it's off-topic.
On catalog page, the bottom "pageBar" element is wider than the rest of content, so it's more than a screen width and creates a horizontal scroll.

>76 DuncanHill: Thanks for reporting it, seems to be fixed now.

>162 timspalding: Thanks! Wow, that changed the numbers a lot!

I hope this is the right place to put it, but what I'm seeing is on the new work page and I didn't see it before the new update.

All my summaries seem to be green? I haven't checked every single book, but so far I've only seen green summaries. If I understand correctly, green text is only supposed to be for entries that are automatically calculated, but I put publisher's summaries in the summary field that I copy-paste from the Bowker's tab or type in from the catalogue information page of the book itself, or occasionally I'll write one up myself. The automatically-calculated version of that field would just say 'Title by Author Surname (0000)', but the summaries I've entered are getting 'greened'.

Not a big bug or one that really interferes with my life at all, but I thought I'd point it out nonetheless.

>167 GraceCollection: I noticed that too. It will be fixed soon.

>168 knerd.knitter: Pages also appear green often, though not always, in the Your Book box. They are not green on the edit page, so I can't make head or tails why some turn green elsewhere

>169 SandraArdnas: Pages also appear green often, though not always, in the Your Book box Can you give me an example?

>170 knerd.knitter: Sure, https://www.librarything.com/work/31712/280417840 . Meanwhile, https://www.librarything.com/work/816482/185858097 shows normally in black. Both have pages entered and in black on edit book

ETA: Book details also show it in green https://www.librarything.com/work/31712/details/280417840

>171 SandraArdnas: Found it! Thank you. Will get it fixed soon.

"Display empty sections at the bottom"
The wording and the toggle state do not match. When switched to on (green, yes) the sections are hidden, when switched to off they display.

The behaviour is correct, I believe as this was changed I think (from moving them to the bottom), but it now does the opposite of what the text says. (I would think the best resolution is updating the text to make the behaviour explicit).

I cannot add more author - if I click on the + mark on the Edit book page, nothing happens. If I leave the page and return, the new input field shows. It works, but really inconvenient, please, fix it! Thanks a lot, I love the new interface!

Thanks for the report. This was a bad code change at 12:03 am last night. I've reverted it.

I am experiencing a glitch. When I add a new book with multiple "Other authors", only the last one gets saved. If I then edit it, I can only add one contributor at a time or the same thing happens.

This is on Chrome.

The member votes for work page recommendations are disappearing/not sticking -

1. Go to a work page
2. In the recommendations section, switch to "votes" view
3. Vote on some recommendations
4. Refresh the page
5. Votes are gone

I can't confirm, but it seems like there aren't any pre-new-work-page recommendations votes on any work pages either. I checked a couple dozen very popular works and I don't see any with votes.

When Other Authors are involved as main authors, but all roles are blank, the site is now default-adding (Author) after the primary author, at the very top of the work page. This leads to a bit of peculiarity for non-book works.

Example: https://www.librarything.com/work/14450221/t/Lulu
The musical album 'Lulu' by Lou Reed and Metallica, currently shows at the top of the work page as:
Lulu by Lou Reed (Author), Metallica

It previously didn't used to do this, and works that have only a single author don't bring in the default (Author) either, if that helps pin the bug down.

When clicking on “Show more” recommendations four times all the recommendations disappear.

>179 PawsforThought: When clicking on “Show more” recommendations four times all the recommendations disappear.

On which page are you seeing that? And which recommendations section if you're on the Recommendations subpage.

NB: Workpage link too, please and thank you.

>180 knerd.knitter: I’m seeing it on every book I check. First one I noticed was: https://www.librarything.com/work/29546660/book/27977037

The recommendations section on the Overview page.

ETA: it’s also happening on the Recommendations page, for LibraryThing Recommendations, but then it’s only two click before all the recommendations there disappear.

>181 PawsforThought: I’m seeing it on every book I check

I think I know the problem. I will try to get it fixed this afternoon.

Editing "other authors"

When you click the little pen on an author to eg change from "some editions" to "all editions", the existing role, eg "actor", disappears and you have to enter it again, even though it was right in the first place.

>183 DuncanHill: When you click the little pen on an author to eg change from "some editions" to "all editions", the existing role, eg "actor", disappears and you have to enter it again, even though it was right in the first place.

Are you saying that when you click the pencil icon to edit an other author the role is missing from the dropdown field or are you saying that after you save it removes the role even though it appears in the dropdown?

>184 knerd.knitter: Click on "other possible authors"
It says (something like) "Bob Adrian, Actor, Some editions, unconfirmed", and then green tick, red x, and pen.

Click on pen.

You are offered
Author: Bob Adrian
Role: - and then the dropdown with nothing filled in
Type: main/secondary
Editions: All editions/some editions

So you have to choose the role again, and if it is something like "actor" or "producer" you also have to scroll all the way down to other and then type it in.

>185 DuncanHill: So you have to choose the role again, and if it is something like "actor" or "producer" you also have to scroll all the way down to other and then type it in.

Oh, maybe the problem is if it's not one of the standard ones; because I wasn't seeing that on the one I checked.

>186 knerd.knitter: @knerd.knitter

I just looked and I think you're right, "director" does come up,

Hey! @ing does give people a notification! I asked for that years ago.

Links in reviews don’t display properly in some modes.

On the Book Details page, it displays as it should:



On the Overview page, the link and link text are simply gone:



If you click “(more)” to expand the review, it shows up like this (though the link actually performs as it should):

>188 Charon07: I'm looking into this now!

>188 Charon07: This is fixed, although now it truncates the review in the middle of the link. There's only so much we can do with that when a link could be anywhere. At least it truncates more cleanly.

>190 knerd.knitter: But the link works! Thanks for fixing so quickly.

The drag-and-drop to reorder collections in the Collection Manager menu, appears to have stopped working, mentioned at this topic: https://www.librarything.com/topic/350906#8761900

I've gone to try it myself too, got into it through Your Books, Collections dropdown, Edit Collections, and agree with what they've reported.

Edit: this one has been further reported in its own bug topic, at: https://www.librarything.com/topic/368601

>192 Nevov: I'm having this problem as well; I've tried several times over the course of the last few days. I also cannot save changes to collection names or status. This is causing me some issues because I have a LOT of collections and I need to move and change them.

>183 DuncanHill: When you click the little pen on an author to eg change from "some editions" to "all editions", the existing role, eg "actor", disappears and you have to enter it again, even though it was right in the first place.

This should be fixed now.

Review URLs

When I want to link to a review in a Talk thread, it's not obvious where to find the URL. Turns out the URL is associated with the date (Feb 11, 2025 in the example below), which is odd and not intuitive. I think there used to be an icon for this. Would it be possible to add an icon at the bottom of each review to make the URL easier to find and use?

I don’t know if this is a bug, or if it’s intentional, but if I have reviewed a book, it does not show in the “member review” section when I am looking at the Work page. It only shows above that section, in “edit” mode. This is a change.

If you look here: https://www.librarything.com/work/33141608/reviews/277814923 as me, it says under “Member reviews”, “no reviews found”. This page: https://www.librarything.com/work/31854011/book/278662670 says “6 reviews”, but only 5 show in the “member review” section.

Also, didn’t there used to be a link icon under one’s review that one could copy and paste into a post to link to the review? Or am I imagining that?

>196 lilithcat: You are not imagining it - they removed the special link... The date under the review is now the link you can use to link directly to the review.

>197 AnnieMod:

Thanks, but that’s just goofy.

>198 lilithcat:

Tell Facebook, Twitter, BlueSky, Threads…

>199 timspalding:

I don’t do any of those things, and it would never have occurred to me in a million years to look for the link, which used to obvious, there.

>196 lilithcat:, >197 AnnieMod:, >198 lilithcat:, >200 lilithcat: That's exactly the issue I posted in >195 lauralkeet:. Like you @lilithcat, it wasn't obvious. I only found it by hovering over active links to see where they would lead.

>199 timspalding: Facebook is the only one you mentioned that I have experience with. If you're trying to point out a convention that the work page is following, I don't see it. The link icon seems more intuitive and recognizable.

>197 AnnieMod: So that's where it is! Thanks!

Having the link be the date may be the norm for other sites, but it's not intuitive. You know what is intuitive? An icon that is literally a link.

>202 amanda4242: Meh, the link icon requires though. It's a chain. I doubt everyone gets it. More important, less is more. We have to balance having every feature being present everywhere and fully spelled out, and the aesthetic and cognitive costs of doing that. I'm not saying it's always obvious, but that's the trade-off we have to engage with.

>199 timspalding:, >200 lilithcat:

I do use fb, but I’d remained blissfully unaware of that convention till Tim mentioned it here.

>203 timspalding: *shrug* The first thing I thought when I saw the icon was "link." When it disappeared I looked in the menu that turned out to be for flagging; it never occurred to me to check the date.

>205 amanda4242:

I think that might be a good compromise--put it under the same "…" menu as flagging too.

>206 timspalding: Not a bad idea. There's no "..." for your own review in the Member Reviews section, but there is a "..." in the blue "Your Book Information" section. It would be great if you could put it in both places. Pretty please.

>206 timspalding: Seems reasonable: if you're not going to have a dedicated icon, then putting it under what is obviously a menu sounds fine.

I don’t know if this is being looked at in the ongoing Covers issues but I don’t see covers on Work pages now. If I try to scroll up, a sliver of the bottom of the cover image does come into view briefly.



ETA: Also the ‘edit profile’ and ‘add picture’ buttons are slightly offset, horizontally on my profile page.



iPad Air iOS 12.5.5g

>209 humouress: Thanks. The first thing might be the ongoing issues with our pics/covers server. It's limping along.

The second is something I'll take a look at.

>210 conceptDawg: You're welcome 😊

(I checked it on my laptop, too. I can see covers on the Work pages and, of course, the buttons on the Profile page are in the right-hand side bar and one underneath the other, so not an issue.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS Sonoma 14.6.1)

>194 knerd.knitter: Seems fixed where there is an existing role suggested
But not when there isn't. For example:

Go to https://www.librarything.com/work/6455430/

Author information - click on Edit

See Ogilvy, Ian, role: blank, Type: main, Editions: some editions, Status: unconfirmed. tick/pen/cross

Click "pen" to edit (should be actor, secondary, all). Get "error".

When I go to edit the tags on a book, I start typing in the tags and a rolldown list of tag suggestions covers up the save and cancel buttons.

>213 prosfilaes: I had a look at it (because it always used to mostly cover them) and you're right. If I scroll the page though (on my laptop) the dropdown list moves but the tag edit box stays still so the buttons are no longer covered.

>202 amanda4242: >203 timspalding: No icon is intuitive.

For maximal obviousness, you need words, not a stylized picture of God-knows-what, used as a symbol meaning something different from the object depicted.

Of course "click here to login" can't be called "intuitive", since it doesn't require guesswork, unlike whatever icon currently implies "login". (Is there one?) Ditto for almost any other text label.

Too bad you can't fit text on a 2 * 4 inch screen, and thus those of us not using tiny cell phones aren't allowed to have text either.

Meanwhile, I will hopefully remember "some UI designers use dates as links; if you see one, you should click on it to find out what it does, hoping it doesn't e.g. irreversibly delete the relevant record. This is true even if the date is also meaningful - i.e. there is information conveyed by the specific date".

>202 amanda4242:
>Having the link be the date may be the norm for other sites, but it's not intuitive. You know what is intuitive? An icon that is literally a link.

Could an answer be, where the date displays as the hyperlink to append the permalink symbol? Such as: Jan 14, 2025

If not familiar with the date-as-hyperlink concept, even if the symbol is unfamiliar in meaning to a new user, it gives a cue that something is there, to prompt discovery.

>216 Nevov:
Of course needn't be that specific symbol if there are other things out there or if it's due an upgrade. But the general concept might be sound. Actually found Unicode has one 🔗 if that has benefits for things such as screenreaders.

Placing it in the dots menu would work too, and sort of match how Talk does it with grabbing a permalink to a message via: More > Link
Nice to have options!

I marked a book as started and finished on the same day and got a message saying the start date is before the end date.

>218 amanda4242: did you add both dates at the same time? I've had a few same-date reads recently without any problems, but always with several hours between them, never adding start/finish at the same time.

(just in case it's something about how/when the same start and finish are added)

>219 keristars: Pretty sure it was at different times.

>220 amanda4242: Oh, how interesting!

I just tested it a few ways using the Today buttons, and it was fine. What a curious little bug you've found.

But while testing, I noticed the bug where the Save button on the floating bar (mobile/narrow window) sometimes becomes illusory. I thought it had been fixed, because it wasn't causing me as much trouble, but it was all over the edit page after I hit the Started Today button.

>212 DuncanHill: Seems fixed where there is an existing role suggested
But not when there isn't.

Thanks. Fixed that now.

>218 amanda4242: I marked a book as started and finished on the same day and got a message saying the start date is before the end date.

This had to do with the internal timestamp of the start date being before the finish date. But we don't really care about that if the date is the same since that's what we display. Fixed. (Also realized that error message is backwards! The date started should be before the date finished.)

>222 knerd.knitter: Thank you again.

>223 knerd.knitter: Thanks!

I don’t know if this is a bug or if I’m missing something, but I can’t seem to flag reviews. I click on the ellipses and get “report this review”, but there are no options to flag as “not a review” or “TOS violation”.

This is on both my iPad and iPhone (not at home, so can’t check the desktop).

I did look to see if this was discussed elsewhere, but can’t find anything.

>226 lilithcat: Click on "report this review."

I think this is a bug: if a review includes a link that appears in the same place as the "show more" link, then the "show more" will open that URL, not just display the rest of the review. I've tried a few browser/device combinations, and this happened for each of them, though occasionally the full review briefly displays before the new page loads, albeit not long enough to read it, and it's hidden again when the user goes back to the original work page.

I noticed this with the earliest review (by alanteder) for The Golden Orchard, as seen on the Overview page, not the Reviews page. That review includes several links out to Wikipedia articles, and one of them is resulting in this problem. Of course, it's also possible to view the entire review by clicking on the date at the bottom, but this seems like unexpected behavior, regardless.

>227 amanda4242:

I did, and got nothing. Clicking on that simply makes “report this review” close.

>229 lilithcat: Probably touchscreen specific then, since it's working on my laptop.

>226 lilithcat: >229 lilithcat: I can’t seem to flag reviews

Can you provide a link to the page on which you are seeing this?

>226 lilithcat: >230 amanda4242: I'm seeing this on Safari, even out of mobile view. (Works fine in Chrome.)

For the developers: here's my logs after I click on "Report this review" in Safari, if it's helpful:

Log ce (1) (mmlog.js, line 55)
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ce Prototype

Log ce (0) (mmlog.js, line 55)
No Properties

ce Prototype

Log close_menu triggered on popup_menu (mmlog.js, line 55)
Log ce (1) (mmlog.js, line 55)
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Log lt.destroyAllACMenus (mmlog.js, line 55)

>231 knerd.knitter: You can try my bogus review at https://www.librarything.com/work/5403381/reviews, https://www.librarything.com/reviews/kristi_test_02

ETA: it seems to be working for me, now. Did you fix something?

ETA: okay, it's now working in full browser mode but not in mobile view on Safari.

>232 kristilabrie:
>226 lilithcat:
>230 amanda4242:
This should now be fixed.
Mostly a workaround by loading the menu to the top left for that review menu.

For the uber nerds:
The problem was a really interesting one.
Tracking down the cause was tough. Then finding documentation to explain it was one thing. Finding documentation to explain why it was different across browsers was another thing. These tiny things can be exhausting sometimes.

It's due to a "bad" W3 specification regarding stacking contexts and container elements with "inline-size" specified. Chrome has noticed the problem in the spec and provided a "fix" in Chrome 129. The other browser makers have not issued this fix. Presumably because it's against the spec, but really the specification needs to be changed because it causes erroneous stacking contexts to be created for the container elements if their z-index is not 'auto'.
Chrome bug tracker for this change

>233 conceptDawg: These tiny things can be exhausting sometimes.

More exhausting than the big ones, where it's obvious what's going on!

Thanks for the hard work. And the explanation.

Hola, siento escribir en español, espero que se entienda lo que voy a contar.
Estoy revisando mis colecciones y he buscado en Tus Libros un autor del que sé que tengo alrededor de 50 títulos. Buscaba uno en particular que tenía que modificar pero aprovecho para revisarlos todos. El caso es que hago la búsqueda por autor y no aparece. Lo busco por el ID del título y aparece. Aparentemente está todo correcto en el nombre del autor por lo que vuelvo a hacer la búsqueda y no me aparece. Realizo de nuevo la búsqueda pero en lugar de poner el nombre completo (nombre y apellido) lo hago solamente por el apellido. Aparecen otros títulos de otros autores y este también. He revisado por qué puede aparecer de una forma y no de la otra y no entiendo nada. Finalmente, revisando cada dato de este título y comparándolo con otros del mismo autor, observo que la única diferencia es que en este título, en el papel del autor, en lugar de dejarlo vacío seleccioné Autor. He dejado esta casilla vacía y ya aparece en la búsqueda por el nombre del autor completo.
No sé si sirve de algo esto que os he comentado.
Un cordial saludo

(usando el traductor de Google) Tu autor no se encontró en la búsqueda hasta que lo nombraste específicamente como autor. Antes de ese cambio, el rol de autor estaba en blanco. ¿Es correcto?

>235 Treshojitas: Parece que la búsqueda de autor fallaba cuando se completaba el rol de autor, pero cuando eliminaste el rol de autor la búsqueda fue exitosa. ¿Es correcto?

¿Cuál era el nombre del autor que buscabas, por nombre completo y apellido?

((usando el traductor de Google))

>237 kristilabrie: Es correcto, al eliminar el rol de autor aparecía el título correctamente. He seguido investigando: si el rol se carga al incorporar el título a mi colección con el ISBN o con el código de barras no parece haber problema. La búsqueda era en mi biblioteca.

El autor era Pío Baroja (nombre y apellido)

Editing a work's primary author will often time out if the existing value is calculated, not confirmed.
This happens when I click the Edit button in the Author Information section, then click the pencil icon by the primary author. The screen loads for ~10 seconds, sometimes allowing me to edit it and sometimes displaying an error message.
Here's one work where I got stuck: Glen Campbell...I'll Be Me
I have no bugs with adding authors.

The new Links feature on the work page is much appreciated.

However, if two works are combined, the links from the work with the fewest number of editions are deleted.

Links from both of the works should be retained.

>240 kleh: That is how series information also is handled, losing the info from the smaller part in the combination. Maybe both areas could be improved together?

>241 Nevov:

Yes, the series deletion has been an unresolved pain for a very long time,

https://www.librarything.com/topic/335019

https://www.librarything.com/topic/362759

>238 Treshojitas: Vale, ¡gracias por esta información! ¿Puedes decirme con qué título (o títulos) de este autor tenías problemas específicos? ¿Cómo añadiste originalmente esos títulos? Me gustaría seguir tus pasos para intentar reproducir este problema, para que podamos solucionarlo. Gracias por tu ayuda.

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>243 kristilabrie: Hola, perdona la tardanza pero estaba de viaje y no he podido conectarme. El título era Vidas sombrías. Cuentos de Pío Baroja. Se trata de una colección que no tiene código de barras así que lo añadí por búsqueda del ISBN en la Biblioteca Nacional de España.
De hecho, ahora al escribirte he buscado el título a través del buscador en "Tus libros" y me dice que no existe, siendo que tengo la ficha abierta del libro en otra página. Parece que este libro no quiere que lo encuentren, jajaja.
Por cierto la ID del ejemplar es 280837468
Un saludo

>244 Treshojitas: ¡Genial, gracias! Estoy viendo el título en "Tus libros" si navego (en lugar de buscar), aunque no sé por qué antes podías buscarlo y ahora no. El título está en tu colección "Sala": ¿estás viendo eso o "Todas las colecciones" en el menú desplegable Colecciones? He vuelto a indexar tu catálogo por si acaso; puedo ver el título cuando busco "Todas las colecciones": https://www.librarything.com/catalog/Treshojitas?&deepsearch=Vidas%20sombri%...

También intenté agregar el rol "Autor" a Baroja para ese título y la búsqueda aún funciona en tu catálogo. Me pregunto si algo más se quedó atascado, tal vez, y si hice alguna edición al libro, ¿se solucionó?

Question: when I look at 'stand alone' my list of tags it says I have 41 but if I click to edit it, it says I have 45. I did just add one more and edit one but that doesn't account for the difference. Is this a bug?

>246 humouress: I see the correct "46" tally, now, at https://www.librarything.com/tags/humouress. I'm guessing just a delay.

Thanks for all the work you're doing to fix glitches. I've been waiting to see if the following edit primary author issue resolved itself, but it seems to be persisting. I am using Chrome.

When I go in to the edit primary author field, often (not always) the field will not populate. I just get the spinning wheel and cute comments about writing a book. Sometimes if I go away and come back, I can edit the field. Sometimes not. This is especially prevalent if I have to reopen the field for some reason (typo, etc). Once I have edited the field, the changes do not seem to stick. Examples:

https://www.librarything.com/nseries/72055/Yale-French-Studies

I have made edits to the following authors:

#53 Hilary H. (editor) Okam
#65 Ralph Sarkonak (Editor)
#90 Brigitte Mahuzier (eds.)

to take out the qualifier and do it correctly. I exit the edit author popup, refresh the page, no change. Recalculate title/author, no change. Wait overnight, no change. When I reopen the edit author popup, it has reverted to the original name.

>248 labfs39:
I went to the author page and hit the link for 'Recalculate author name', for each of the three, and I think that has made it recognise the now-majority correct version of each author's name.

I am also seeing what you describe with trying to edit a primary author on a work, from time to time, it sets off spinning and I can't work out if it's just random.

Thank you, but how very odd that it worked for you and not me. It has been happening off and on since the release with me. It can be frustrating when the system refuses to display the changes, or even keep them.

>250 labfs39:
Is it possible you were doing only the Recalculate title/author on the work page? And not trying the author page Recalculate author name – as that was where I had success.

I can't exactly remember the old page and process but I agree it seems not to operate exactly the same. I seem to remember edit primary author always immediately took effect in the past. But now like in your example it seems to require two steps: changing the primary author (to remove the "editor", which you had done), but also now going to the author page and recalculating name. Give that a try next time you hit one. Sorry for fixing all three! Had I paused to think I could have saved one of them for you to test out.

>251 Nevov: Thank you. Recalculating from the author page instead of the work page did indeed work.

Hola a todos, quería agradeceros a todos el trabajo que estáis haciendo en LibraryThing que, al menos a mi, me facilita enormemente la gestión de una biblioteca heredada de mi familia. Hace tiempo que quería deciros esto y también que se solucionó el problema que planteé hace un tiempo, no me ha vuelto a pasar, gracias.

Ahora tengo otro problema y es que no me deja ordenar las colecciones. Es decir sigo las instrucciones y aparece un botón de Reordenar pero luego no puedo coger las etiquetas de cada colección para cambiarlas. Es una tontería frente a todo el trabajo que hacéis y no es algo que necesite sino más bien una ayuda para la gestión pero creí que vendría bien que lo dijera.

Un saludo agradecido para todo vuestro trabajo.

>253 Treshojitas: Hay un error con esa lista desplegable, reportado aquí: https://www.librarything.com/topic/368601. Puedes usar https://www.librarything.com/settings/collections.

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>254 Charon07: Muchísimas gracias

Some books seem to have a completely wrong language listed in the Statistics section on the Overview page. For example this one: https://www.librarything.com/work/29967619/. The work has never been published in any other languages than Finnish. Nevertheless, the language of the work is listed as Latin in the Statistics section. I added Finnish in the Common knowledge Original language field, but it didn't seem to have any effect

>256 albval: You would need to edit your actual book, not the common knowledge area, to fix your statistics.

>257 gilroy: There are 2 members who catalogued the book and both have Finnish entered as language. There's definitely some bug if the stats show something else

>257 gilroy: They're not talking about their personal statistics, they're talking about the statistics section of the work page.

>257 gilroy: >258 SandraArdnas: >259 norabelle414: Thank you SandraArdnas and norabelle414 for clarifying the issue! So yes, both of us have our books listed as Finnish, and I also marked the original language as Finnish both in my book and in the work's Common knowledge. Still, the work's Statistics section claims the work is in Latin: https://imgur.com/a/mXJ3kK3

Thanks for the heads-up on this. This will take a week or so to be fully fixed.

Here's the technical explanation:
1. There's a table for the languages for all Overcat records.
2. Unfortunately the tables ID numbers were set to SMALLINT, which tops out at 65535, which is 2^16. Some 2m records were screwed up by this.
3. I've expanded the ID system and written the code to fix it but…
4. The Overcat system is very much ChrisC's business and I gave up after a while trying to get in and run this.
5. He's off until Thursday. When he comes back, he'll get to it, although he may not get to it until the following week.
6. Once he fixes that, several other things need to be run to fix the downstream effects.

Thanks for the report, and for your patience.

Tim

I may have found a faster way.

Fixed. Thanks for the report--it helped us find a bug that would only get worse over time.