July SFFKit : Alternative history

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July SFFKit : Alternative history

1h-mb
Edited: Jun 15, 2025, 3:47 am

This month is for alternative history. Let us swin in not so familiar waters with novels such as :

- Stone spring by Stephen Baxter
- Ink and steel and New Amsterdam by Elizabeth Bear
- The man in the high castle by Philip K. Dick
- The dragon waiting by John M. Ford
- The hammer and the cross by Harry Harrison
- Any book by Guy Gavriel Kay but the Fionavar Tapestry and Ysabel
- Gloriana by Michael Moorcock
- The glory of the empire by Jean d'Ormesson, a French novel I'm partial to
- Pavane by Keith Roberts
- The years of rice and salt by Kim Stanley Robinson
- Roma eterna by Robert Silverberg
- Clash of eagles by Alan Smale
- Farthing de Jo Walton

Don't forget the wiki

2MissBrangwen
Jun 15, 2025, 3:50 am

I hope to read She Who Became The Sun by Shelley Parker-Chan, set in China.

3h-mb
Jun 15, 2025, 4:23 am

>2 MissBrangwen: Now, that's a good idea ! I didn't think of it but I have it in my TBR pile. This would be a good occasion to read it.

4MissBrangwen
Edited: Jun 15, 2025, 4:30 am

>3 h-mb: I purchased it recently and saw "alternative history" among the tags when I entered it into my LT library, so I immediately noted it down for this KIT!

5whitewavedarling
Jun 15, 2025, 9:51 am

I'm going to be reading The Yiddish Policeman's Union by Michael Chabon. I'm not much for alternate history, generally speaking, but this has been on my TBR for ages, so it seems like a perfect time to get to it.

6KeithChaffee
Jun 15, 2025, 2:34 pm

I'm planning to read Cahokia Jazz by Francis Spufford.

7Robertgreaves
Jun 15, 2025, 7:19 pm

It's a bit of a stretch, but I might read Journey to Where by Steven Paul Leiva, in which scientists experimenting with time travel end up in a world where dinosaurs evolved intelligence so homo sapiens did not evolve.

8SilverWolf28
Edited: Jun 15, 2025, 8:36 pm

Most if not all of Vlad Ben Avorham's books are alternate history. I'll probably read something by him.

9GraceCollection
Jun 28, 2025, 2:27 am

How are we defining alternative history? If a book is generally 'in present day', but a significant historical event from our history happened differently — or not at all — is it still alternative history?

10KeithChaffee
Jun 28, 2025, 3:00 am

I would say so, yes. The book is set in a parallel present that differs from our own because of the altered history. That’s a fairly common approach in alt history stories, probably more common than stories centered on the actual moment of divergence.

11h-mb
Jun 28, 2025, 3:00 am

>9 GraceCollection: Yes, that counts as alternative history. The determining element is the change in the past.

12KeithChaffee
Jul 7, 2025, 4:43 pm

13KeithChaffee
Jul 11, 2025, 3:48 pm

It is perhaps a bit of a stretch to call Tom Carson's Gilligan's Wake an alternate history, but it does offer some ahistorical explanations for particular events, and since I've already finished a more conventional book in the genre, I'm going to toss this one in as well.

14christina_reads
Jul 15, 2025, 12:07 pm

The August thread is here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/372316

15KeithChaffee
Jul 20, 2025, 3:29 pm

I read Alternate Tyrants, one of several "Alternate X" anthologies edited by Mike Resnick in the 1990s.

16amberwitch
Jul 20, 2025, 4:21 pm

17Robertgreaves
Edited: Jul 21, 2025, 3:51 pm

I read one of Aliette de Bodard's Xuya stories, Butterfly, Falling At Dawn, set in a world where the Chinese were the first colonists to reach North America. Now (our 2006), North America is split between Xuya, the former Chinese colonies, on the West Coast; the United States, the former English colonies on the East Coast; and the Aztecs' Mexica Empire.

18staci426
Jul 28, 2025, 12:36 pm

I've finished a reread of The Lions of Al-Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay, still a 5* read. Love Kay's writing.

19MissBrangwen
Jul 28, 2025, 2:43 pm

I read She Who Became The Sun by Shelley Parker-Chan. I must say that I did not totally love it, although I expected to do so, but it is definitely worth reading.

20threadnsong
Aug 3, 2025, 7:19 pm

Yes! I finished A Song for Arbonne for this challenge.

>18 staci426: I'm with you there, Staci!

21staci426
Aug 4, 2025, 5:35 pm

>20 threadnsong: I read A Song for Arbonne for the first time two years ago and I think it has surpassed Lions as my favorite of his so far. I've been slowly working my way through a reread of his books in publication order and filling in ones I've missed over the years.

22threadnsong
Aug 16, 2025, 7:38 pm

>21 staci426: I never thought of reading them in publication order. I finally read Tigana a couple of years ago. Song for Arbonne was my first after his Fionavar Tapestry series.