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1jasbro
May 5, 2009, 1:44 pm

Good afternoon:

A very nice LT user recognized and took pity on me, a newbie, for my Book Talk post from yesterday. I'm re-posting here, fully aware of the fundamental tenet that we avoid duplicative "cross-talk" (that's like double-speak, no?) wherever possible, but having no idea (yet) how to direct your attention to my misplaced message.

I quote:

I've jumped ahead in my personal cataloging, hoping that LT can help me keep track of our various Lord of the Rings copies. But I'm bewildered by the array of J.R.R. Tolkien "works" and "editions" of works -- even "multiple authors" named J.R.R. Tolkien! (Of course, I won't mind multiple authors, if each is as good as the others.) Is anyone out there keeping track of the infinite variety of legitimate editions for each work, and separating/organizing the endless combinations and "accessory" works, like annotated editions, audio recordings, VHS and DVD's, posters, calendars, etc.? (And just what is a "jigsaw book" anyway?) Alternatively, can any LT member/user of greater experience (perhaps a higher wizarding level) suggest ways to manage this review and sorting process in something under a week-and-a-half per title? Thanks in advance for your thoughts and comments.

2Nicole_VanK
May 5, 2009, 2:02 pm

First of all, there are no multiple authors named J.R.R. Tolkien. In practice there are many ways to write his name though, the dislectic "Tolkein" for example. Anyway, I've recombined that page. Though we may not agree with all those books being attributed to Tolkien, it isn't as if some other author were intended. This is not what author separation is for.

I agree I definitely wouldn't attribute the LOTR movies to Tolkien, but some people do and that can't be helped. The same goes for the ephemerals. Again, it's not as if some entirely different J.R.R. Tolkien would be indicated.

As for making the page more manageable - sorry. All editions of every work deserve (and need) their place there. Pages of such popular authors are huge (check out Shakespeare or J.K. Rowling for example).

3vpfluke
May 5, 2009, 10:34 pm

#2

I did take a look at the split Tolkien page which seemed wonky with Author 1 and Unknown. So, I'm glad you rcombined them.

I find the Tolkien author page ok to use. What I would like to see is an organizational scheme for a "book" (or is it a 'collection') like the Thousand and One Nights, sometimes known as Arabian Nights and a number of other titles 1001 Nights.

4hayleyscomet
May 5, 2009, 10:53 pm

Unfortunately, LibraryThing doesn't have system in place for distinguishing between separate editions of works. A little while ago I did some work on Miguel de Cervantes' page, trying to sort out abridged vs. unabridged versions of Don Quixote (which are considered to be different "works,") and I dealt with a similar issue--trying to find some definitive list of what every edition was. I found some websites which helped, but certainly nothing that had *everything.* I am sure that some minor cleanup could be done on Tolkien's page (mostly a bit of combining some things that are 1-2 copies with the rest of the copies; and DEFINITELY some work on the non-English titles), but glancing over, it already looks fairly tidy to me. Everyone on that list of "who's helped" has clearly done a great job on this one.

Without knowing your goals for your personal cataloging, I'm not sure how much more help I could be.

5muumi
May 6, 2009, 5:32 pm

>1 jasbro:. A "jigsaw book" is pretty much as one might expect: a board book with cardboard jigsaw puzzles inset into the pages. Usually 12-24 piece puzzles. I've seen the LotR movie-tie-in jigsaw book; I think it has about 10 pages (5 jigsaws). Definitely a different work from the complete LotR.