I'm thinking the Tag thing is wonky.

If you have the book The Hobbit tagged Green Dragon, please post in the thread, so I can count how many of us there are.

The number hasn't changed from 16 since I started checking. :o(

I even added a copy to GreenDragon's library, just to see if the number would go up, and it did not. I think this explains why the Green Dragon tag does not show up in this page:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1522

I am Spartacus.

* whoops *

* sorry *

* blush *

I mean... I have tagged The Hobbit.

*tag*

You're it.

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Wow! That's quite a keyboard you have there... such interesting characters pop out of it. ;)

* tag *

OK, I've two copies tagged Green Dragon - I could not decide on which ;-)
One english - The hobbit and one swedish - Bilbo.

I've tagged it too.

#5 are they combined into the one work - hobbit? looks liek ti from the touchstones, but if they weren't then the extra tag wouldn't appear in the GD tags list.

Clam - you could double tag your copy and see how/when/if the list updates.

I don't know how often the server refresh happens. I believe the counting is done on a seperate server from the storing - and data transfer between the two only happens after a refresh from the "team".

I've checked it today from the main search page and we're on 17. This is the same as going through the link on the GD group ppage.

#6 - Yes, they should be the same but the ins and outs of codewriting is inscrutable, at least to me, even after 16 years in the business, and so I mentioned it IF it would make any difference ;-)

I've tagged it... and the graphic novel version.

Me too.

Although, from what I understand about how the system works, raw numbers alone aren't what determines whether a tag goes onto a work's page. I think it's a case where both a work's popularity, a tag's popularity, and the number of times that work is tagged with that tag all go into consideration.

So, if tag X and tag Y are both applied to work Z 10 times, and there's only space for one of them on the "most frequent tags" list, then if tag X is used globally on ALL works 1000 times while tag Y is only used 100 times, then tag X takes precedence.

Or, shoot, maybe then tag Y takes precedence because it's more "specialized" to that work. Or something. I'm confusing myself, now. I do think there's something more to it than raw numbers, though.

Or maybe it's just a server lag. It's too early in the morning to try to parse the LT statistics logic.

I have 3 versions of The Hobbit tagged - a collector's edition, a paperback, and the audio version.

(You know, within the last 24 hours or so, the number of copies of The Hobbit just exceeded the number of copies of 1984....)

There are 8 books more popular.
To that I'd add "only"!

Looks like 1984 is in the lead again. LOL Or did you mean it edged out Catcher in the Rye?

"And it's To Kill a Mockingbird, by a nose!!!"

I'm kind of shocked by this list, to be honest.

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (11,539),
Harry Potter and the sorcerer's stone (11,510),
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (10,790),
Harry Potter and the goblet of fire (10,342),
Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban (10,255),
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (10,237),
The Da Vinci code (9,175),
1984 (8,004),
The Hobbit (7,832),
The catcher in the rye (7,267),
Pride and prejudice (7,247),
To kill a mockingbird (6,703),
The great Gatsby (6,374),
The lord of the rings (5,752),
Brave new world (5,368),
The curious incident of the dog in the night-time (5,362),
Jane Eyre (5,338),
Life of Pi : a novel (5,133),
Animal farm : a fairy story (5,124),
American gods : a novel (5,121),
Angels & demons (4,954),
The fellowship of the ring (4,925),
Catch-22 a novel (4,881),
One hundred years of solitude (4,837),
Wuthering Heights (4,793)

8,145 for The Hobbit and 8,107 for 1984 - the numbers differs between the Zeitgeist and Book-pages - these numbers are from the book pages...

AHHH! These things must get updated in different ways or different intervals, methinks.
:/

there's some very good stuff in there... not a bad "must read" list... Life of Pi is another of those books that I recommend to everyone... go read it folks, if you haven't already.

Plus, it's kinda fantasy, so it'll fit in here at the Dragon, I think.

*places his well thumbed hardback copy on the shelf, to share.*

I agree, Tane. I enjoyed that book thoroughly. I guess I was surprised to see Angels & Demons and American Gods on there. Also, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time is not a favorite of mine.

I tagged it, too.

#18 dressagegrrrl! good to see you! Welcome back! :D

I forgot to mention that I tagged The Hobbit too.

Embarrased (maybe): I have 5 (five!) different editions of The Hobbit listed in LT. That does not include the ancient copy from 1966 (?) - the first copy I owned and read!

So, I tagged 5 different editions of the Hobbit with "Green Dragon". My personal Tags page immediatelyshowed that correct total.

Well, thanks to you, cad, there are now 23 copies of The Hobbit tagged Green Dragon. But when you view the book info, and you lists the tags by number it still does not show up.

20th Century(20) adventure(50) british(42) children(41) Children's Literature(24) childrens(81) classic(195) dragons(48) dwarves(22) elves(24) epic(27) epic fantasy(18) fantasy(1,388) fiction(779) folio society(16) high fantasy(17) hobbit(26) hobbit collection(72) Hobbits(46) inklings(23) Literature(64) lord of the rings(114) magic(32) middle earth(165) novel(74) own(34) paperback(27) read(112) series(35) sf(18) the hobbit(16) tolkien(336) translated(73) unread(19) wizards(28) young adult(24)

I guess these numbers only get updated rarely... if ever.

>#19

I never left, JPB. I check in every day. Green Dragon is just growing so quickly and there is so much activity that I find I have a bit less to say.

Thanks for kindness, though! :)

#23 That's kind of sad, I think - that the growing of the community makes it less interesting to participate in...

#23, #24 I agree! The more people here, the more there is to say dressagegrrl - and your posts are hilarious. :)

>#24

Now, now Busifer. I didn't say that, did I? I never said it was less interesting.

There is just such a flurry of posts that I find many people have already said I what wanted to say, that's all. I still read everything, and if I have something new to add, I say it.

I'm certainly not less interested. If anything, having the group grow bigger means that there is a greater diversity of books to discuss.

**Edited to fix glaring grammatical error.**

#26 I have something new to add, I say it.

That restriction certainly doesn't stop the rest of us.

:)

>#27

I didn't mean anything by it. I feel a bit uncomfortable at the analysis my offhand comment is receiving (although I know it's not meant that way at all!)

So... eh... *Thinks of quick subject change* My husband and I spent the whole weekend watching the entire run of Firefly. ...No, too nerdy... Urm, I'm reading House of Leaves and it's very good!

#28

Hmm... beats my weekend - I spent the whole weekend reinstalling applications on a failed desktop. :S

* no... too geeky *

While doing it, I watched trucks with huge tires roll over cars

* no... too redneck *

While the CD drive was spinning, I cooked a dinner Saturday night!

* no... too domestic *

Late Saturday night, I put out the garbage that was smelling up from dinner!

* no... too boring *

Hmm.... I'll just have to make something up...

ALL WEEKEND I WAS FIGHTING CRIME IN A COSTUME WITH A CAPE!

There!!! :D

Wow, JPB. You're a geeky, redneck superhero that can cook? You must be fibbing because that's in no way boring.

...Did you wear a body stocking type costume? Or just spandex?

>#29 - Ha ha. I read your comment before you edited it.

#31 I accidently cut off a chunk in trying to format it better. *blush*

Actually, my superhero costume is made out of cozy scritchy flannel. Why not be comfy while fighting crime? :D

BIG BIG LAUGH! :-D

#26 - Well, I misinterpreted you Dressagegrrrl, that happens sometimes! And you remind me that I really HAVE to buy that Firefly collection... :-)

Now, what did I do at my weekend?

Fixing computer failure due to renewal of antivirus program subscription
*not geeky - actually I'm kind of proud that I am able to encounter this kind of problem without crying for help...*

Identifying problem with my Outlook client (wouldn't start up), and fixed it (removal of work related program installed on home computer, wrong version of the .NET framework)
*geeky*

Major house cleaning
*too domestic*

Playing with my son, and reading lots of books to him
*I don't care what it is, it's worth it!*

...

No superheroing here, only good old me!

I just came back from another BLEEEEEEEEEEEP BLEEEEP BLEEEEP BLEEEPing root canal. That's two in ten days. At least this time I'm not in agonizing pain.

My lip and tongue are tingly though. And I'm hungry but I can't eat yet because I might bite my tongue off and that would be a bad thing because then I would have no tongue.

Yeah, that would be bad, because then you couldn't stick it out, like this:

:oÞ

Hope you feel better soon, morphidae!

:o)

>#34

I ate tongue in France trying to appear cosmopolitan. What was I thinking? I'm from Delaware! The most we can do is appear good-natured or maybe sunny on a good day.

I'm sorry to hear about your root canal and your fear of tongue-biting related incidents. XD

#36 - Argh. Were the taste-buds visible? Every time I see one in a butcher shop I get the willies. :oS

I ate tongue once. Man, I was apologizing for WEEKS!!!

Hee heee, okay, seriously, I tried beef tongue once, and to me it was disturbingly chewy, almost rubbery.

Sorry to hear about you're root canal - hope you're feeling better by now, Morphidae!

BTW, when I grew up my mother cooked tounge quite often. I NEVER could eat it, lying there on the dinner table looking like, well... a tounge. And yes, you see the taste buds. Never mind what it tastes, some things are way beyond that!

The french and spanish eats some stuff I'd never tought would end up on a plate, like every intestine you could think of, plus bulls' testicles... Before I go there I usally freshens up my language skills in the area of "things you don't want to end up on your plate at the restaurant" ;-)

#39 plus bulls' testicles...

Wel, Busifer, where do you think Matzo Balls come from?

There are herds of Matzo travelling across the plains where the older males look just, well, philosophical about everything.

Mountain oysters. Some of the men who helped us round up cattle when I was young used to can the above mentioned delicacies. Mostly from the herford herd though, not the Matzos. :)

I'm pleased to say I've never tasted them. One of many items on my list of things that will never be eaten until extreme starvation sets in. Our family was big on eating every part of the animal, but I was born too late to get in on that.

#40 - Well, being from Sweden I've never heard of Matzo balls... and we DO NOT eat such things here. Intestines, mashed lungs, tounge...yes (well, I don't!) but genitals? No.

As with Mrs Lee there have to be some severe starving before I try some of these things.

Anyone ever watched Iron Chef (the original Japanese version, not the American one)? Crab brains, anyone?

>40 JPB: Matzo (also Matzoh, Matzah, Matza), an unleavened bread, is the "official" food of Passover. When the Jews were leaving Egypt, there was no time for the bread to rise, and the resulting food was matzoh. For Passover, the ingredients for matzoh are flour and water.

:)

>#37 - YES. And that's what skeeved me more than anything. The texture was really... tonguelike. *Shudders and dies a little.*

>#42 - Wait. Mashed lungs? I've never heard of that! Interesting.

I don't know. I consider myself to be an adventurous eater guys. I've been too many places where it would be offensive if you don't eat what's in front of you. But I really have never had trouble like when I had to choke down tongue. I had less trouble with tete de veau which mentally seems uckier!

#45 - "tete de veau"

AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!

Don't google it, peeps.

Not this early in the day, anyway.

;o)

*googles*

Ugh. My stomach is churning.

I don't even want to google it... considering the how the topic evolved so far :-)

Ooooo!

I think Brunswick stew was traditionally made with a pig's head.

Hmm - lunch is only 1/2 hour away!

#29
ALL WEEKEND I WAS FIGHTING CRIME IN A COSTUME WITH A CAPE!
I KNEW it!

#45 & #46,

So when ordering tete de veau is it considered bad taste to ask the waitress to "Please give me some..." Oh never mind!

"Please give me some... TANG."

YES! That's what I was gonna say!!!

#43 and #49 - hobbitprincess - We used to watch the original Iron Chef. It was so bad we had to watch it! And, yes, Brunswick stew was (and still is by some) made with a pig's head. I like Brunswick stew, but you definately want to ask what it's made with before ordering a big bowl!

Why is it that Green Dragon conversations, no matter where they start, always come back to food?

mmmmmmmmMMMMFoodMMMMmmmmmmmmm....