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1timspalding
Please post bugs here for:
*Get this book
*Local Book Search
*All sources
*Edit your Quick Links
*Ebooks statistics
*Get this book
*Local Book Search
*All sources
*Edit your Quick Links
*Ebooks statistics
2lorax
Editing my quick links isn't sticking. Well, I can add a local library and have it stick. I can't add bookstores (though if I understand correctly that part isn't released yet) or non-local libraries (i.e. the Library of Congress), and all I see on the "Get this book" is a sea of Borders (ironically, not including the closest one to my location).
3ltmike
Checking it out. When you say it doesn't stick are you looking for it on a 'normal' work page or the "Get this book" page? -Mike
4SilentInAWay
Several of the Quick Links (Amazon, Abebooks, WorldCat) work great from the "Get this book" page, but result in an "Error on page" when invoked from the Main work page (such as this one).
IE8 on XPsp2
IE8 on XPsp2
5conceptDawg
2: I'm checking on the adding of the quick links now.
6KingRat
All of the pop-ups for venues that show up on Local Book Search from the main work page give this error:
Warning: include_once(inc_getit_lightbox.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Warning: include_once(): Failed opening 'inc_getit_lightbox.php' for inclusion (include_path='/var/www/html:.:/php/includes') in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_venueinformationAA() in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 31
Warning: include_once(inc_getit_lightbox.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Warning: include_once(): Failed opening 'inc_getit_lightbox.php' for inclusion (include_path='/var/www/html:.:/php/includes') in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_venueinformationAA() in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 31
7justjim
This is all so overwhelming that I'm not sure what I'm expecting to find.
So I clicked on a book in my wishlist collection and got to the book page, then clicked on 'Local book search'. Magic happens and I've got a list of LT Local venues with icons beside them.
No matter what the icon relates from the legend at the bottom, clicking any venue link tries to open a lightbox, but the lightbox contains the following error.
Warning: include_once(inc_getit_lightbox.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Warning: include_once(): Failed opening 'inc_getit_lightbox.php' for inclusion (include_path='/var/www/html:.:/php/includes') in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_venueinformationAA() in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 31
eta: Snap!
So I clicked on a book in my wishlist collection and got to the book page, then clicked on 'Local book search'. Magic happens and I've got a list of LT Local venues with icons beside them.
No matter what the icon relates from the legend at the bottom, clicking any venue link tries to open a lightbox, but the lightbox contains the following error.
Warning: include_once(inc_getit_lightbox.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Warning: include_once(): Failed opening 'inc_getit_lightbox.php' for inclusion (include_path='/var/www/html:.:/php/includes') in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_venueinformationAA() in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 31
eta: Snap!
8rsterling
This is probably the same lightbox error. I'm getting it on the "All Sources" page, clicking on Bookstores, searching for one, then clicking on the name of a bookstore:
Warning: include_once(inc_getit_lightbox.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Warning: include_once(): Failed opening 'inc_getit_lightbox.php' for inclusion (include_path='/var/www/html:.:/php/includes') in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_venueinformationAA() in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 31
Warning: include_once(inc_getit_lightbox.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Warning: include_once(): Failed opening 'inc_getit_lightbox.php' for inclusion (include_path='/var/www/html:.:/php/includes') in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 20 Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_venueinformationAA() in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_venue.php on line 31
9timspalding
6, 7, 8. How did THAT get by us?
Okay, fixed now.
Okay, fixed now.
10conceptDawg
4: Fixed. Thanks.
11justjim
The search by ISBN syntax for The Book Depository isn't accepted by them. 'All sources' > UK > Book Depository for Altered Carbon (first cover) sends this URI http: //www.bookdepo sitory.c o.uk/isbn/034 5457692 which fails (calls their own 404 page).
If I cut the ISBN out of the URI and paste it into the search box on the page, it finds the book just fine.
Note, I put the random spaces into the bookdepository URI to stop it parsing.
If I cut the ISBN out of the URI and paste it into the search box on the page, it finds the book just fine.
Note, I put the random spaces into the bookdepository URI to stop it parsing.
12conceptDawg
Lorax,
Can you add things to your quick links now? In IE the first time you add one when you visit the page it takes a couple of seconds. Don't blame me, blame Bill Gates. It's instantaneous on real browsers. ;) I just added LoC to my quick links without a problem (using IE8).
You say that you have a sea of Borders. What city? It's more curiosity than anything.
Can you add things to your quick links now? In IE the first time you add one when you visit the page it takes a couple of seconds. Don't blame me, blame Bill Gates. It's instantaneous on real browsers. ;) I just added LoC to my quick links without a problem (using IE8).
You say that you have a sea of Borders. What city? It's more curiosity than anything.
13conceptDawg
JustJim,
Note that you can edit the ISBN link that the system uses for most of the QuickLinks. The only ones that aren't editable are the ones that we fully integrate with (so they don't need that information).
Click on the little pencil icon to edit your quicklinks and there is a little (edit) link next to every editable quick link.
ETA: I went ahead and edited that source for you, so it should work fine now. But feel free to fix them if you like.
Note that you can edit the ISBN link that the system uses for most of the QuickLinks. The only ones that aren't editable are the ones that we fully integrate with (so they don't need that information).
Click on the little pencil icon to edit your quicklinks and there is a little (edit) link next to every editable quick link.
ETA: I went ahead and edited that source for you, so it should work fine now. But feel free to fix them if you like.
14timspalding
"Sea of Borders"
Well, you got a bunch of 'em near you. Which one isn't there?
Well, you got a bunch of 'em near you. Which one isn't there?
15fabtk
My quick links aren't sticking either. I'm editing from a work page using the edit pencil, but when I return to the work page, the new links aren't there. I tried to add Book Depository and Audible. When I click back on the edit pencil I see that Book Depository is on my list, but Audible is not. But as I said before, neither are showing up on the work page.
16conceptDawg
That is working as designed. We have to filter out non-amazon book sellers from the quicklinks list on the main work page.
But I'll make sure that things are sticking.
But I'll make sure that things are sticking.
17justjim
>13 conceptDawg: Ahhh. Penny dropped. Got it now. So once I've formatted the URIs (if required) for the sites I use and set them to appear where I want them on my quick links, then any time I see an interesting book on LT I can just buy it there and then? I may end up hating you guys, you know that, don't you?
18bluetyson
15
I have the same problem - it was all reset to some defaults or other.
Then I added fishpond to be back at the top (not sure which one I was using before), and it wouldn't stay.
But some like manybooks, feedbooks, a couple of libraries did stay.
I have the same problem - it was all reset to some defaults or other.
Then I added fishpond to be back at the top (not sure which one I was using before), and it wouldn't stay.
But some like manybooks, feedbooks, a couple of libraries did stay.
19bluetyson
16
Not sure I know what you mean there - as pretty clearly Google Book Search isn't part of amazon - and that was in the default batch when I just looked before.
Not sure I know what you mean there - as pretty clearly Google Book Search isn't part of amazon - and that was in the default batch when I just looked before.
20conceptDawg
Yes. They can be in your Quick Links but they can't appear on a main work page in your Quick Links box. But that only applies to booksellers. Other types of sources can appear. If you go to the Get This Book, Get it Local, or All Sources sub-pages then they CAN appear.
It's all very political. I'm sure there are lawyers involved. And when lawyers are involved I try not to be. It's a simple rule that has so far served me well.
But, because I get paid to do this sort of thing: Are you saying that Google Books isn't showing up in your quicklinks box even though you have it in your list on the Edit Quick Links page?
It's all very political. I'm sure there are lawyers involved. And when lawyers are involved I try not to be. It's a simple rule that has so far served me well.
But, because I get paid to do this sort of thing: Are you saying that Google Books isn't showing up in your quicklinks box even though you have it in your list on the Edit Quick Links page?
21conceptDawg
I did track down a caching bug that was probably causing Quick Link edits to seem like they weren't "sticking." Fixed.
22bluetyson
20
But, because I get paid to do this sort of thing: Are you saying that Google Books isn't showing up in your quicklinks box even though you have it in your list on the Edit Quick Links page?
Nope, I am saying fishpond, fictionwise, webscriptions, online books page and The Book Depository are not.
The Google Books one was there in a default list that had dumped all the ones that had been set previously.
But, because I get paid to do this sort of thing: Are you saying that Google Books isn't showing up in your quicklinks box even though you have it in your list on the Edit Quick Links page?
Nope, I am saying fishpond, fictionwise, webscriptions, online books page and The Book Depository are not.
The Google Books one was there in a default list that had dumped all the ones that had been set previously.
23bluetyson
This is the work I was/am looking at, being the book I just finished earlier today :-
http://www.librarything.com/work/7234803/book/52883373
http://www.librarything.com/work/7234803/book/52883373
24bluetyson
This is the order I have on edit quick links :-
Fishpond
Fishpond.com.au
Amazon.com
Book Depository
Fictionwise
Amazon Kindle
Abebooks.com
Project Gutenberg
ManyBooks
Feedbooks
Online Books Page
Google Books
Port Adelaide Library
State Library of South Australia
WorldCat
Webscriptions
BookFinder.com
This is what shows up :-
Quick Links
Amazon.com (direct)
Amazon Kindle (0 editions)
Abebooks.com
Project Gutenberg (0 editions)
ManyBooks (0 editions)
Feedbooks (0 editions)
Online Books Page (0 editions)
Google Books — Book info
Port Adelaide Library
State Library of South Australia
WorldCat
Fishpond
Fishpond.com.au
Amazon.com
Book Depository
Fictionwise
Amazon Kindle
Abebooks.com
Project Gutenberg
ManyBooks
Feedbooks
Online Books Page
Google Books
Port Adelaide Library
State Library of South Australia
WorldCat
Webscriptions
BookFinder.com
This is what shows up :-
Quick Links
Amazon.com (direct)
Amazon Kindle (0 editions)
Abebooks.com
Project Gutenberg (0 editions)
ManyBooks (0 editions)
Feedbooks (0 editions)
Online Books Page (0 editions)
Google Books — Book info
Port Adelaide Library
State Library of South Australia
WorldCat
25bluetyson
The book in question, Cherry Bomb by J. A. Konrath, does have a Kindle edition according to the amazon website - but the quicklink says 0, too, btw.
http://www.amazon.com/Cherry-Bomb-ebook/dp/B002EBDPIW/ref=sr_oe_1_1?ie=UTF8&...
http://www.amazon.com/Cherry-Bomb-ebook/dp/B002EBDPIW/ref=sr_oe_1_1?ie=UTF8&...
26bluetyson
So possibly that is working 'as designed' re: your reference above, and there is some secondary page that has the real list?
27conceptDawg
That is exactly correct.
The ones that aren't showing up are omitted because Amazon's Terms of Service prevent us from showing them on a main work page where there is Amazon data.
The ones that we DO show are allowed because they aren't booksellers, so they aren't direct competitors with Amazon, and that allows us to be compliant with their TOS.
If you click on the "Get this Book" link you'll see all of your quicklinks will show up. We can show them on that page because it's a "secondary" page (not the main work page) and that also complies with the Amazon TOS.
It's an unfortunate legal quirk that we're working hard to deal with.
All of that being said, there are items in the Booksellers category that are probably mis-categorized and vice-versa. Those types of things can get ironed out in the near term.
The ones that aren't showing up are omitted because Amazon's Terms of Service prevent us from showing them on a main work page where there is Amazon data.
The ones that we DO show are allowed because they aren't booksellers, so they aren't direct competitors with Amazon, and that allows us to be compliant with their TOS.
If you click on the "Get this Book" link you'll see all of your quicklinks will show up. We can show them on that page because it's a "secondary" page (not the main work page) and that also complies with the Amazon TOS.
It's an unfortunate legal quirk that we're working hard to deal with.
All of that being said, there are items in the Booksellers category that are probably mis-categorized and vice-versa. Those types of things can get ironed out in the near term.
28ianreads
Ebooks statistics: When looking at the 'ebooks by source' page, there are no 'free' labels anymore.
29geitebukkeskjegg
I notice that most of my "Local" searches by title fail to generate hits for the full title as stored in LT, but WILL find the book when searching for the short version.
Example:
"Atomvåpen : det du ikke vet, det du ikke vil vite" -> not found
"Atomvåpen" -> found
Truncate MAGICNUMBER at ":", ";" when doing title search, perhaps?
Example:
"Atomvåpen : det du ikke vet, det du ikke vil vite" -> not found
"Atomvåpen" -> found
Truncate MAGICNUMBER at ":", ";" when doing title search, perhaps?
30calm
Ebooks statistics - I think this is meant to show any book in my catalogue that has an ebook available.
If that is so I have a bug.
It is only showing books from one collection (inherited).
If that is so I have a bug.
It is only showing books from one collection (inherited).
31PortiaLong
Minor Bugs - In the Edit your Quick Links:
1.) link to blog post doesn't work for me (green left side bar)
2.) under favorites for bookstores/libraries it tells me that I must be signed in to use the favorites - I am AM signed in, I just don't have any favorites marked.
1.) link to blog post doesn't work for me (green left side bar)
2.) under favorites for bookstores/libraries it tells me that I must be signed in to use the favorites - I am AM signed in, I just don't have any favorites marked.
32235711
I can't get Edit Quick Links to load at all. The LT header and tabs appear but nothing else does. I managed to get the page to load once (a few hours ago), and then I couldn't remove or add anything (it's not because of the Amazon rule; I tried to add Amazon.co.uk but no deal).
33anglemark
When trying out the Local Book Search for where I live (Uppsala, Sweden) I can't find any of the titles I search for in any of the local AbeBooks sellers that are listed, but when I do the search from AbeBooks own site I find them. Is this because almost all of the stores were connected to Local Stores just a few hours ago, or what?
For instance, this yields no hits:
http://www.librarything.com/work/8288/getlocal&place=Uppsala,%20Sweden
but here I find it:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Carroll&bi=0&bx=off&...
For instance, this yields no hits:
http://www.librarything.com/work/8288/getlocal&place=Uppsala,%20Sweden
but here I find it:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Carroll&bi=0&bx=off&...
34235711
"Get This Book" doesn't show Bookfinder info for amazon.co.uk. Even when the info is there on Bookfinder, I mean.
35FicusFan
Get This Book Page:
http://www.librarything.com/work/177133/get/53145464
In the main page under the ebook banner, there are 3 links listed. 2 work, 1 doesn't
Google Books - Book Info - nothing happens when you click on it. It is also listed in the blue box at the right. When you click on it there, a lightbox pops up, and you can pick your edition and search. The problem is that the link in the main part of the page under the ebook banner does nothing. It should react like the same link in the blue box at the right.
If I click on Amazon Kindle in the blue box to the right I get this error
Amazon Kindle
Choose an edition
Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_alternate.php on line 55
All the light boxes say Cancel/Close in the upper right, except Google Books which says Hide This in the upper right. They should all be the same.
I have added local stores to my list n the lightbox.
The link for B&N -Nashua opens to the local store page, but you can't get books from there, and you can't just search the books in your local store. It is on option on the regular book pages. You find a book and if there is a local store button you put in your zip and it lists 3 stores close to you, and whether they have the book or not. So this link seems useless.
The Borders - Nashua (1 Edition Likely) link doesn't work at all. I click on it and nothing happens: no lightbox, no external web site, no error - just nothing.
36FicusFan
I don't know if this is a bug, but its something.
There is a real bookstore that carries used books. It is called Annie's Book stop. There are many locations. Under the bookstore tab near me there are 5 listings. BUT they all say the same thing: Annie's Book Stop and go to the same web site.
http://www.anniesbooks.com/
There is a page for you to find locations, and they list them by city and state, but they aren't listed in the link (Annie's Book Stop - Nashua) and the location page is not the one you open when you click on the link for Annie's Book Stop.
http://www.anniesbooks.com/locations.html
So it seems that there should only be one link for all the Annie's - since they all go to the same web page, OR there should be a location in the link and it should go to the same location page on the Annie's web site.
37timspalding
Morning!
I'm starting at message 28, but first I need to blog local book search.
I'm starting at message 28, but first I need to blog local book search.
38FicusFan
I added an ebook site, and it doesn't seem to be listed anywhere.
I understand it can't be on the first page with the Amazon links, but if I click on Get This Book it isn't listed there either. If I edit the quick links and go to On-line Ebook or All tabs its not listed there either for me to add to my Quick Links - even though I added it as a new site.:
http://www.ebooks.com/
I also don't see http://www.fictionwise.com/ and I am sure someone must have added it already. So are new sites not being added, or displayed ?
Also when you get into the various tabs under Edit Quick Link there is a link that says Return to Previous Page, but
1. http://www.librarything.com/editquicklinks/online:ebooks
When I click on it , I end up here
2. http://www.librarything.com/editquicklinks
It also has a Return to Previous Page but when I click on it I get:
3. http://www.librarything.com/editquicklinks/online:ebooks
So I am going back and forth with no way OUT of the edit link and back to either the book page or Get This Book page.
I understand it can't be on the first page with the Amazon links, but if I click on Get This Book it isn't listed there either. If I edit the quick links and go to On-line Ebook or All tabs its not listed there either for me to add to my Quick Links - even though I added it as a new site.:
http://www.ebooks.com/
I also don't see http://www.fictionwise.com/ and I am sure someone must have added it already. So are new sites not being added, or displayed ?
Also when you get into the various tabs under Edit Quick Link there is a link that says Return to Previous Page, but
1. http://www.librarything.com/editquicklinks/online:ebooks
When I click on it , I end up here
2. http://www.librarything.com/editquicklinks
It also has a Return to Previous Page but when I click on it I get:
3. http://www.librarything.com/editquicklinks/online:ebooks
So I am going back and forth with no way OUT of the edit link and back to either the book page or Get This Book page.
39timspalding
>36 FicusFan:
Anniesbook are a great thing—a chain that went bankrupt, leaving them a sort of "virtual-chain" or "chain in name only." They should all be listed separately. Many are. But I've never seen websites with store holdings.
Anniesbook are a great thing—a chain that went bankrupt, leaving them a sort of "virtual-chain" or "chain in name only." They should all be listed separately. Many are. But I've never seen websites with store holdings.
40FicusFan
Right but there is no point to have 36 links called Annie's Book Stop all going to the same page !
41conceptDawg
32: Are you on dialup? I notice that you are using IE7, is that correct? I just used IE7 to add some items so I know that it both loads and works in that browser.
42conceptDawg
38: Ficus:
I'll check out what you mean. Where did you "add" the item? Did you click the "Add new link" button and fill out the form? If so, what "type" did you give it? You can actually select what section the entry goes into using the type.
There is an ebooks.com entry in the online:booksellers tab. Perhaps that's the one that you added?
Or, when you say "added" do you you mean that you hit the "add" button to add it to your Quick Links list? If so (and you selected the one I mentioned above) then ebooks.com won't appear on the main work page because it's typed as a bookseller. It should appear on the Get This Books list though, so if it doesn't then something is amiss.
I just checked your QL and it's not in your QL list.
Yeah, I noticed that the return link was messed up early this morning but I needed some rest before attempting a fix. I'll fix in a few. Thanks for the catch though.
I'll check out what you mean. Where did you "add" the item? Did you click the "Add new link" button and fill out the form? If so, what "type" did you give it? You can actually select what section the entry goes into using the type.
There is an ebooks.com entry in the online:booksellers tab. Perhaps that's the one that you added?
Or, when you say "added" do you you mean that you hit the "add" button to add it to your Quick Links list? If so (and you selected the one I mentioned above) then ebooks.com won't appear on the main work page because it's typed as a bookseller. It should appear on the Get This Books list though, so if it doesn't then something is amiss.
I just checked your QL and it's not in your QL list.
Yeah, I noticed that the return link was messed up early this morning but I needed some rest before attempting a fix. I'll fix in a few. Thanks for the catch though.
43ianreads
Get this Book:
On page: http://www.librarything.com/work/2225/get
Clicking on the store under 'Bookstores' that I linked (before 'Get this Book' became available), brings up the lightbox, after which the browser/OS becomes unresponsive.
I have to CTRL+backspace restart the X-server to continue working.
Currently on my XO-1, running Intrepid Ubuntu (since a few days; it can run GIMP, so resources can hardly be the problem):
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.9.0.15) Gecko/2009102814 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.15
Will check if the same result happens on my desktop and will edit this space.
Edit: No problem on the desktop. However, after seeing how many data needs to be loaded by the lightbox, my exotic and rather moderately powered laptop is highly likely to be the culprit.
Clicking on the store under 'Bookstores' that I linked (before 'Get this Book' became available), brings up the lightbox, after which the browser/OS becomes unresponsive.
I have to CTRL+backspace restart the X-server to continue working.
Currently on my XO-1, running Intrepid Ubuntu (since a few days; it can run GIMP, so resources can hardly be the problem):
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.9.0.15) Gecko/2009102814 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.15
Will check if the same result happens on my desktop and will edit this space.
Edit: No problem on the desktop. However, after seeing how many data needs to be loaded by the lightbox, my exotic and rather moderately powered laptop is highly likely to be the culprit.
44lorax
12>
It works now, thanks. I don't use IE. I use Firefox. What I meant when I said they "don't stick" was that I could click on them in the "Edit Quick Links" page, and they'd show up on the right, but when I went back to the work page they wouldn't be there.
I'm in Pasadena, CA. There is a Borders in town, but it doesn't show up on the list. I didn't expect the independents to show up, but if it's going to just show chain stores at least it could show the closest one! (It doesn't show the local public library, either, even though I've added it to my Quick Links so I know it's in the system.)
It works now, thanks. I don't use IE. I use Firefox. What I meant when I said they "don't stick" was that I could click on them in the "Edit Quick Links" page, and they'd show up on the right, but when I went back to the work page they wouldn't be there.
I'm in Pasadena, CA. There is a Borders in town, but it doesn't show up on the list. I didn't expect the independents to show up, but if it's going to just show chain stores at least it could show the closest one! (It doesn't show the local public library, either, even though I've added it to my Quick Links so I know it's in the system.)
45conceptDawg
44: Your local Borders may not be in LibraryThing Local. That's where the data for physical bookstores is coming from now. Check to see if it's in Local and if it has the correct address/location. If so then it should show up under the main Bookstores tab.
Pasadena public library is showing up in your green Quick Links box. Is that the one that you mean?
Pasadena public library is showing up in your green Quick Links box. Is that the one that you mean?
46lorax
45>
Yeah, the Borders wasn't in Local. Weird. I've added it.
The public library was showing up there (Quick Links) because I added it, but it's not showing up under "Get This Book".
No, scratch that; it does show up, it's just "below the fold". I had expected them to be ordered by distance, so when I saw the LA Public Library at the top of the list (13 miles away) I assumed that nothing closer was there at all. How are the lists ordered? They seem totally arbitrary; a Border's 25 miles away (that doesn't have the title I checked in stock) over an independent less than a mile away? I suspect that I may just be encountering some large-metro-area failure modes that most people don't encounter, so if this isn't a huge problem for other people I'll just deal with always needing to hit the "more" if I want to find something.
Oh, one question:
The local independent (Vroman's) has the ISBN link coming from IndieBound, but that link doesn't actually work. There is a working ISBN search, but since the store is in IndieBound I can't edit the link in Local. Is there any workaround?
Yeah, the Borders wasn't in Local. Weird. I've added it.
The public library was showing up there (Quick Links) because I added it, but it's not showing up under "Get This Book".
No, scratch that; it does show up, it's just "below the fold". I had expected them to be ordered by distance, so when I saw the LA Public Library at the top of the list (13 miles away) I assumed that nothing closer was there at all. How are the lists ordered? They seem totally arbitrary; a Border's 25 miles away (that doesn't have the title I checked in stock) over an independent less than a mile away? I suspect that I may just be encountering some large-metro-area failure modes that most people don't encounter, so if this isn't a huge problem for other people I'll just deal with always needing to hit the "more" if I want to find something.
Oh, one question:
The local independent (Vroman's) has the ISBN link coming from IndieBound, but that link doesn't actually work. There is a working ISBN search, but since the store is in IndieBound I can't edit the link in Local. Is there any workaround?
47infiniteletters
I'm not sure if this is a bug per se, but there's no way to hide the library list after showing the full list.
Also, it would make more sense if the bookstores were sorted by mileage if the categories were "unavailable" and "blind link". 2 bookstores a city away displayed before the one a few miles away.
Also, it would make more sense if the bookstores were sorted by mileage if the categories were "unavailable" and "blind link". 2 bookstores a city away displayed before the one a few miles away.
48conceptDawg
46, 47: All integrated stores are listed first, above the fold. But, we check availability "live," after the page actually loads. That's why the integrated stores get the little processing icon next to them while they are checking availability.
Once they return we can't really change the order of the list because you could be looking at/clicking something in the list at that point. Moving things around would be tres bad.
We then list the stores by their level of information that we can obtain from them. Stores that only have a basic web site URL are listed last. Within each feature level they are sorted by distance.
Once they return we can't really change the order of the list because you could be looking at/clicking something in the list at that point. Moving things around would be tres bad.
We then list the stores by their level of information that we can obtain from them. Stores that only have a basic web site URL are listed last. Within each feature level they are sorted by distance.
49infiniteletters
48: But there aren't any integrated stores for the books I've checked offhand. Maybe just an option to sort by mileage? *crosses fingers*
50AnnaClaire
I'm currently "in" my "All collections," which would, of course, include the two LibriVox editions of Lady Susan I've cataloged (Thing 1 and Thing 2). Due diligence at Project Gutenberg turned up the text and an audio version, probably the first LV edition.
But my Ebook statistics fails to include the work at all.
But my Ebook statistics fails to include the work at all.
51lorax
48>
But there are stores that are searchable by ISBN, closer than some of the "above the fold" stores, that are "below the fold"! Do chains count as a single store for sorting purposes? That is, does it do "Borders" as one thing, even if there are a dozen or more stores, and then the next one on the list?
But there are stores that are searchable by ISBN, closer than some of the "above the fold" stores, that are "below the fold"! Do chains count as a single store for sorting purposes? That is, does it do "Borders" as one thing, even if there are a dozen or more stores, and then the next one on the list?
52cpg
It's hard to know what to report as a bug, when we haven't been told precisely what the "Ebook statistics" feature is supposed to do, so here goes nothing:
1) I have the Dickens canon in my library, but Ebook statistics only lists about half of that canon, while, of course, the entire canon is available at Project Gutenberg. Austen, Bronte(s), Dostoevsky, etc., etc., are all available as free ebooks from countless sources, but Ebook statistics lists none of them.
2) Just about every book published by Springer Verlag in the last 10 years is available for purchase electronically at http://springerlink.com/home/main.mpx, but Ebook statistics lists none of them.
3) What does "Hathi Trust" offer that Google Books or Amazon Search doesn't?
1) I have the Dickens canon in my library, but Ebook statistics only lists about half of that canon, while, of course, the entire canon is available at Project Gutenberg. Austen, Bronte(s), Dostoevsky, etc., etc., are all available as free ebooks from countless sources, but Ebook statistics lists none of them.
2) Just about every book published by Springer Verlag in the last 10 years is available for purchase electronically at http://springerlink.com/home/main.mpx, but Ebook statistics lists none of them.
3) What does "Hathi Trust" offer that Google Books or Amazon Search doesn't?
53KingRat
Repeating Lorax question:
> The local independent (Vroman's) has the ISBN link coming from
> IndieBound, but that link doesn't actually work. There is a working
> ISBN search, but since the store is in IndieBound I can't edit the link
> in Local. Is there any workaround?
I just added an ISBN search for UW Bookstore, http://www.librarything.com/venue/3193, but it doesn't work since the Indiebound search takes precedence apparently. The ISBN searches for this bookstore in the pop-up just go back to Local Search rather than IndieBound OR the ISBN search I added.
> The local independent (Vroman's) has the ISBN link coming from
> IndieBound, but that link doesn't actually work. There is a working
> ISBN search, but since the store is in IndieBound I can't edit the link
> in Local. Is there any workaround?
I just added an ISBN search for UW Bookstore, http://www.librarything.com/venue/3193, but it doesn't work since the Indiebound search takes precedence apparently. The ISBN searches for this bookstore in the pop-up just go back to Local Search rather than IndieBound OR the ISBN search I added.
54timspalding
Right but there is no point to have 36 links called Annie's Book Stop all going to the same page !
Which links? They won't have stock, so they'll be an empty circle. The link should probably go to whatever page there is, individuated or not.
Yeah, the Borders wasn't in Local. Weird. I've added it.
We have to hook it up to their ID. Can you forward me the venue link?
The local independent (Vroman's) has the ISBN link coming from IndieBound, but that link doesn't actually work. There is a working ISBN search, but since the store is in IndieBound I can't edit the link in Local. Is there any workaround?
Ick. I'll work on it.
3) What does "Hathi Trust" offer that Google Books or Amazon Search doesn't?
At present, Hathi has nothing more than Google does. But they do have a nice interface, and they are planning to add more. Also, we can build a content search off them. Not so, Google.
Which links? They won't have stock, so they'll be an empty circle. The link should probably go to whatever page there is, individuated or not.
Yeah, the Borders wasn't in Local. Weird. I've added it.
We have to hook it up to their ID. Can you forward me the venue link?
The local independent (Vroman's) has the ISBN link coming from IndieBound, but that link doesn't actually work. There is a working ISBN search, but since the store is in IndieBound I can't edit the link in Local. Is there any workaround?
Ick. I'll work on it.
3) What does "Hathi Trust" offer that Google Books or Amazon Search doesn't?
At present, Hathi has nothing more than Google does. But they do have a nice interface, and they are planning to add more. Also, we can build a content search off them. Not so, Google.
55235711
IE7 is correct; dialup is not, though for that one page I might as well be {on dialup, said the grammar fiend}. I'm waiting for it to load now.
56235711
It won't. But I had it again earlier (hours earlier), and confirmed that no clicking on it will work: delete, add, edit, all fruitless. The cursor behaves normally.
Is it possibly some unlucky combination of this machine and traffic on that page?
Is it possibly some unlucky combination of this machine and traffic on that page?
57Aerrin99
My favorite quick link - to OhioLINK - appears to have disappeared. I can't find it in a library search in 'edit quick links' by name, location, or anything else.
59conceptDawg
57: Is that a Library? A library consortium?
ETA: I'm guessing that's a consortium. We removed the old Libraries section because they should be covered by our existing (and more feature rich) Local data. But consortiums are different but since it's not a real physical library I'm going to move it to the Online --- Book Databases tab. That's where consortiums will live for now.
ETA: I'm guessing that's a consortium. We removed the old Libraries section because they should be covered by our existing (and more feature rich) Local data. But consortiums are different but since it's not a real physical library I'm going to move it to the Online --- Book Databases tab. That's where consortiums will live for now.
60timspalding
>33 anglemark:
I'll look into it. Probably. Or it might be we're not doing the localization part right. Let's get all the data in, then I'll cehck.
I'll look into it. Probably. Or it might be we're not doing the localization part right. Let's get all the data in, then I'll cehck.
61infiniteletters
59: Library Consortium
http://www.ohiolink.edu/
Keep in mind that some "separate" libraries will only have the one group catalog.
Example:
http://consort.library.denison.edu/
http://www.ohiolink.edu/
Keep in mind that some "separate" libraries will only have the one group catalog.
Example:
http://consort.library.denison.edu/
62infiniteletters
duplicate
63aethercowboy
I'm not sure how it determines which language to use, but the linked-to Hathi Trust (Public) version for The Life and Opinions of Tomcat Murr is in German (the original language).
64jjmcgaffey
More on (one of) the error in Msg 35 - the two Google Books links in the blue sidebar work (both of them, Google Books and Book Info, open a lightbox). The same two links in the main portion of the page, under eBooks, don't - no lightbox, it just goes back to the Get page (that is, the page refreshes). I tried this on several books, the last one was
http://www.librarything.com/work/482450/get/32971630
The links show as being the same down in the status bar - all four say "javascript:opengbs();", but there must be some difference...
http://www.librarything.com/work/482450/get/32971630
The links show as being the same down in the status bar - all four say "javascript:opengbs();", but there must be some difference...
65jkcohen
The example search of Alice in Wonderland for London, England (http://www.librarything.com/work/8288/getlocal&place=London,%20England) returns the title in Italian, "Le avventure d'Alice nel paese delle meraviglie." Firefox 3.5.5.
66lorax
54>
We have to hook it up to their ID. Can you forward me the venue link?
http://www.librarything.com/venue/49210/Borders---Pasadena
We have to hook it up to their ID. Can you forward me the venue link?
http://www.librarything.com/venue/49210/Borders---Pasadena
67legallypuzzled
In a Local venue, the box for "Local Book Search" says "find out more" as a link, but the link doesn't seem to do anything on Firefox 3.5 or 3.7.
68krazy4katz
Hi Tim,
This seems like it will be a great feature!
I noticed some of the books that are available for the kindle are not listed in Amazon's site. For example, if I go to ebooks and look for The master and the margarita, it is listed in the Sony store, but not Amazon. Likewise with The White Guard. This is not true for all books. For example, The White Tiger is there.
ETA: Actually The White Tiger link took me to Audible instead of Amazon.
Thanks,
k4k
This seems like it will be a great feature!
I noticed some of the books that are available for the kindle are not listed in Amazon's site. For example, if I go to ebooks and look for The master and the margarita, it is listed in the Sony store, but not Amazon. Likewise with The White Guard. This is not true for all books. For example, The White Tiger is there.
ETA: Actually The White Tiger link took me to Audible instead of Amazon.
Thanks,
k4k
69jjwilson61
When a Local venue isn't integrated its page displays this text, Not integrated with LibraryThing's Local Book Search. (find out more), with the last part being a link. However, the link points to the same page it is on, which isn't very illuminating.
70timspalding
I'm not sure how it determines which language to use, but the linked-to Hathi Trust (Public) version for The Life and Opinions of Tomcat Murr is in German (the original language).
Yeah. It's all work-bases, so it's language agnostic. Sometimes that's better, sometimes worse.
Note to self
Do message 66.
Yeah. It's all work-bases, so it's language agnostic. Sometimes that's better, sometimes worse.
Note to self
Do message 66.
71conceptDawg
Thanks. The Google Books problem is acknowledged and on our list. Fix coming as soon as we can debug it.
72anglemark
>60 timspalding:
Curioser and curioser. Yesterday, as described in #33, trying to find a copy of Alice in a Swedish Abebook shop yielded zero hits going through LT but 8 when searching on Abebooks directly. Today the LT search finds one copy. I don't understand how the data can be creeping in slowly, but it's a little step forward. I guess?
Curioser and curioser. Yesterday, as described in #33, trying to find a copy of Alice in a Swedish Abebook shop yielded zero hits going through LT but 8 when searching on Abebooks directly. Today the LT search finds one copy. I don't understand how the data can be creeping in slowly, but it's a little step forward. I guess?
73eromsted
My closest Borders Express is not integrated either. Here's the venue link:
http://www.librarything.com/venue/6183/Borders-Express---Woodbridge
http://www.librarything.com/venue/6183/Borders-Express---Woodbridge
74Aerrin99
> 59 CD - Thank you very much for the fix! I have added it and am using it already!
As a note, however, I think you're going to find a lot of people missing consortia hiding over there. Were I a college student in Ohio looking for OhioLINK (and I would - it's huge, and many other states have similar things), I would never think to 1) look on 'online' (because it's not!) or 2) know what a 'consortia' is. At the very least, it may be worth it to add a tab to 'libraries' (similar to what's online) that says 'consortia,' although that still doesn't solve 2)
I saw in other threads that you folks are thinking about how to deal with the 'I don't care what branch it's in because I can put it on hold' issue in local library systems. I'd encourage you to consider consortia in the same way. Most academic consortia deliver and share their books these days - and I don't care which Ohio university it's at, because I can have it delivered, and pick it up at my library.
In the mind of most users, I think, consortia like this are libraries, not online databases. When it comes to practical use, that's how they function.
As a note, however, I think you're going to find a lot of people missing consortia hiding over there. Were I a college student in Ohio looking for OhioLINK (and I would - it's huge, and many other states have similar things), I would never think to 1) look on 'online' (because it's not!) or 2) know what a 'consortia' is. At the very least, it may be worth it to add a tab to 'libraries' (similar to what's online) that says 'consortia,' although that still doesn't solve 2)
I saw in other threads that you folks are thinking about how to deal with the 'I don't care what branch it's in because I can put it on hold' issue in local library systems. I'd encourage you to consider consortia in the same way. Most academic consortia deliver and share their books these days - and I don't care which Ohio university it's at, because I can have it delivered, and pick it up at my library.
In the mind of most users, I think, consortia like this are libraries, not online databases. When it comes to practical use, that's how they function.
75jjwilson61
cD I think you may be too focused on the implementation details and not the user experience. I agree with Aerrin99 that consortia of libraries should be treated as libraries otherwise you will get confused users.
76KingRat
>72 anglemark: there are several reasons why. the number of shops being connected is slowly growing as volunteers match up venues with ABE booksellers. LT also caches the data so as not to hit server too hard, so that introduces a delay. and some of those 8 copies might be from internet-only sellers.
77caseydurfee
Just to play devil's advocate here. The point of the feature is to tell you physical places you can go to and get the book immediately, right? They don't have books at the consortium headquarters. So which way of presenting it better serves the goal of helping you get it now and get it locally?
78conceptDawg
I did change the tab on that page to be labeled "Databases/Consortia" so it's a step in the right direction. We may have to bring back an Online Libraries tab but give it a bit to see how things go.
79infiniteletters
77: There is no consortium headquarters. There are just separate "branch" schools. Think of it like separate branches in a bookstore or city library system.
80timspalding
Curioser and curioser. Yesterday, as described in #33, trying to find a copy of Alice in a Swedish Abebook shop yielded zero hits going through LT but 8 when searching on Abebooks directly. Today the LT search finds one copy. I don't understand how the data can be creeping in slowly, but it's a little step forward. I guess?
We are having trouble keeping up with all the new venues added by members. We're 400 behind right now.
That said, it's only LOCAL venues, so maybe not all 8 are near you?
My closest Borders Express is not integrated either. Here's the venue link:
Yeah, I searched on them, and they aren't on the site either. I think it's a rule—Borders Express holdings aren't listed.
We are having trouble keeping up with all the new venues added by members. We're 400 behind right now.
That said, it's only LOCAL venues, so maybe not all 8 are near you?
My closest Borders Express is not integrated either. Here's the venue link:
Yeah, I searched on them, and they aren't on the site either. I think it's a rule—Borders Express holdings aren't listed.
81anglemark
We are having trouble keeping up with all the new venues added by members. We're 400 behind right now.
Ah, I assumed you had a live link to the Abebooks database. If you are scraping their data that explains it. As I said originally, I connected the venues only a couple of days ago.
That said, it's only LOCAL venues, so maybe not all 8 are near you?
Yes, they are. I was talking about stores that showed up in my Local Book Search. But if there is a lag before the stock of newly connected venues shows up here, I have my explanation (and a second copy of Alice showed up today in another of those shops, so another step in the right direction).
Ah, I assumed you had a live link to the Abebooks database. If you are scraping their data that explains it. As I said originally, I connected the venues only a couple of days ago.
That said, it's only LOCAL venues, so maybe not all 8 are near you?
Yes, they are. I was talking about stores that showed up in my Local Book Search. But if there is a lag before the stock of newly connected venues shows up here, I have my explanation (and a second copy of Alice showed up today in another of those shops, so another step in the right direction).
82RMXtreme
Still can't edit my Quick Links; using Opera. Sometimes the page loads, sometimes it doesn't.
83damsel58
My 'edit quick links' is hanging too. I just get a blank page while it tries to load, and it never actually loads. IE7.
84SugarCreekRanch
For me, the Kindle links on the "Get this book" page are going to an Audible.com audio edition, rather than a Kindle edition.
Example:
http://www.librarything.com/work/2903022/get/52844750
Example:
http://www.librarything.com/work/2903022/get/52844750
85timspalding
Chris: Are you on this?
87_Zoe_
How is the bookstore integration supposed to work? The Strand never seems to show any books available, even when there are plenty of copies on their website (for example, The Boy Who Harnessed the Wind: http://www2.strandbooks.com/app/www/p/qsearch/?quick=boy+who+harnessed+the+wind). Also, clicking on the Strand doesn't even take me to the Strand page, but either goes to the LT Work page (if I click in the main list of bookstores) or does nothing (if I click on the quick link).
88timspalding
I'll check on why the Strand isn't working.
89timspalding
Fixed the strand. They changed their server name. Also fixed some of the Shakespeares. People also entered them as Abe sellers, and the two forms of integration clashed.
T
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90conceptDawg
I'm checking on the IE7 hangs but it's loading just fine on my machine here. Maybe you all need to get Macs and run Windows in a virtual machine on your Mac. It seems to work better. :)
Just kidding. I'm looking into it.
Just kidding. I'm looking into it.
91ltmike
*whew* OK, Got the stats page fixed. There were several problems but I spent most of my time battling the amount of memory it used for larger libraries. I would expect to wait a little while if you have more than 3K books but the experience should be better all around and data that was missing before should show up for everyone.
-Mike
-Mike
93_Zoe_
The Strand links now go to the Abebooks Strand page, rather than the book information on the Strand's own website. Is this intentional?
96KingRat
Bump from #53:
I just added an ISBN search for UW Bookstore (http://www.librarything.com/venue/3193) but it doesn't work since the Indiebound search takes precedence apparently. The ISBN searches for this bookstore in the pop-up just go back to Local Search rather than IndieBound OR the ISBN search I added.
This still appears to be broken.
I just added an ISBN search for UW Bookstore (http://www.librarything.com/venue/3193) but it doesn't work since the Indiebound search takes precedence apparently. The ISBN searches for this bookstore in the pop-up just go back to Local Search rather than IndieBound OR the ISBN search I added.
This still appears to be broken.
97AnnaClaire
I coulda sworn I posted again about the two LibriVox editions of Lady Susan which do not show up on my ebooks list. Or any editions of that work for that matter -- the work hasn't made it onto my list at all. Due diligence indicates that the first LibriVox edition, published 2007, is duly linked from the work page, but even there the second edition, published 2008, is not.
Edited to add: I did finally find Lady Susan on my list, but only by using my browser's "find" function -- which is perhaps an indication that some sort of collapsabilty by author (or at the VERY least, by work) is called for. That said, the second edition still doesn't show up.
Edited to add: I did finally find Lady Susan on my list, but only by using my browser's "find" function -- which is perhaps an indication that some sort of collapsabilty by author (or at the VERY least, by work) is called for. That said, the second edition still doesn't show up.
99lorax
96>
Yeah, that's what I reported in #46 -- Tim said in #54 he would work on it, so at least he's aware of the issue.
Yeah, that's what I reported in #46 -- Tim said in #54 he would work on it, so at least he's aware of the issue.
100connie53
I get this message every time i try to add a book
Warning: getresultset_SRU_KB_long(): Node no longer exists in /var/www/html/inc_externalbooksearch.php on line 250 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/html/inc_externalbooksearch.php:250) in /var/www/html/addbook_weird.php on line 296
And somebody is adding books to my library!
Its a book without a cover and the writer is
Thomas P. McCarthy CSV
Warning: getresultset_SRU_KB_long(): Node no longer exists in /var/www/html/inc_externalbooksearch.php on line 250 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/html/inc_externalbooksearch.php:250) in /var/www/html/addbook_weird.php on line 296
And somebody is adding books to my library!
Its a book without a cover and the writer is
Thomas P. McCarthy CSV
101damsel58
I've upgraded to IE8 and I am /still/ hanging on my 'edit quick links' page. This is really annoying too as I'm nearing the end of my library stack and would like to go from my 'to read' list to the library of choice to put more books on hold as I had been doing before the library disappeared off my 'get it now' list.
102lorax
100>
You'll get a better response if you post your bugs in a new thread, rather than one specifically relating to a particular feature.
That said, I vaguely remember that author from the giant "no title" vortex. Nobody but you is adding books, but it may be that you added one that somehow got sucked into that mess. It looks like you've deleted it now, though?
You'll get a better response if you post your bugs in a new thread, rather than one specifically relating to a particular feature.
That said, I vaguely remember that author from the giant "no title" vortex. Nobody but you is adding books, but it may be that you added one that somehow got sucked into that mess. It looks like you've deleted it now, though?
103caseydurfee
100 > connie53, Please send me more details (message me directly or email me at casey@librarything.com) on exactly what you were searching on when you got the error. I tried a bunch of searches against the Koninklijke Bibliotheek and didn't see the error you reported.
I think lorax is on to something -- just by looking at the code there would definitely be problems if the KB was not giving us a title, but without a concrete example, it's hard to figure out how to fix it/work around it.
I think lorax is on to something -- just by looking at the code there would definitely be problems if the KB was not giving us a title, but without a concrete example, it's hard to figure out how to fix it/work around it.
104lorax
103>
Ah, is that where all the "no title" books are coming from?
They're going here, if that's any help. (I separated out all but one work with a title from the mess a couple weeks ago, but left one in case it was needed for debugging.)
Ah, is that where all the "no title" books are coming from?
They're going here, if that's any help. (I separated out all but one work with a title from the mess a couple weeks ago, but left one in case it was needed for debugging.)
105caseydurfee
104> Thanks, good to know about that item. I don't think they're all coming from the KB, but looks like anything without a title is ending up attached to that work. Crud. What a mess.
106infiniteletters
105: Yeah, we separate some out every once in a while.
108krazy4katz
Can't tell if this has been mentioned by anyone (except me):
I was just searching for online copies of the ebook version of Jailed for Freedom by Doris Stevens.
As you can see from her profile, there are 3 listings for that work. I think they are probably all the same work. However, if you search them separately, only the second one finds the ebook copy in manybooks.net and none of them is linked to the 5 ebook copies available for the Amazon kindle.
Thanks,
k4k
I was just searching for online copies of the ebook version of Jailed for Freedom by Doris Stevens.
As you can see from her profile, there are 3 listings for that work. I think they are probably all the same work. However, if you search them separately, only the second one finds the ebook copy in manybooks.net and none of them is linked to the 5 ebook copies available for the Amazon kindle.
Thanks,
k4k
109rsterling
Not sure if this is the same Strand problem. I've got the Strand in my quick links, but the link seems to be broken, or actually, just not there.
When I click on the Strand link, the target is:
javascript:#
What it should look like, presumably, is something like the target for another bookstore in my quicklinks:
javascript:javascript:edv(4631639,%204201,%20'Sea%20of%20poppies');
When I click on the Strand link, the target is:
javascript:#
What it should look like, presumably, is something like the target for another bookstore in my quicklinks:
javascript:javascript:edv(4631639,%204201,%20'Sea%20of%20poppies');
110timspalding
>109 rsterling:
Can you give me a specific page that this happens on? Also, can you be sure to wait 20 seconds before clicking it. The Strand is fetched and the link shoulnd't work until the bubble fills in.
Can you give me a specific page that this happens on? Also, can you be sure to wait 20 seconds before clicking it. The Strand is fetched and the link shoulnd't work until the bubble fills in.
111_Zoe_
http://www.librarything.com/work/8409384/getlocal/52147398
The bubble fills in almost immediately, but the link doesn't do anything.
The bubble fills in almost immediately, but the link doesn't do anything.
112235711
To clarify my problem with Quick Links: the delete button is not a button. The link needs two buttons: the red circle, and the rest of the grey bar. Right now there's only one, the entire grey bar including the red circle, so links cannot be removed, only moved.
113rsterling
110. It happens on any "get" page I try. For instance:
http://www.librarything.com/work/4631639/get
http://www.librarything.com/work/164584/get
I have it in my "quick links." The icon shows up properly, as does the stock information. The problem is that the hyperlink in the store name does nothing- does not open the light box. The hyperlink seems to be missing.
In page source, this is what it looks like, along with a couple of the other bookstores I have listed in my quick links, so you can compare. I've replaced all the usual html angle brackets with squiggly brackets so the code will - I hope - show up here:
{img class="ql_iconthing flim" src="/pics/steps-3.gif"}{/a}{a href="javascript:javascript:edv(164584, 4201, 'The Fable of the Bees: And Other Writings');"}Iliad Bookshop{/a}{/div}{div class="ql_printdisplay_line" bsm_code="1:924"}{a href="javascript:#"}{img class="ql_iconthing flim" src="/pics/steps-3.5-off.gif"}{/a}{a href="javascript:#"}Strand Bookstore{/a}{/div}{div class="ql_printdisplay_line" bsm_code="1:7517"}{a href="javascript:javascript:edv(164584, 7517, 'The Fable of the Bees: And Other Writings');"}
(edited to emphasize the problematic part of the code)
http://www.librarything.com/work/4631639/get
http://www.librarything.com/work/164584/get
I have it in my "quick links." The icon shows up properly, as does the stock information. The problem is that the hyperlink in the store name does nothing- does not open the light box. The hyperlink seems to be missing.
In page source, this is what it looks like, along with a couple of the other bookstores I have listed in my quick links, so you can compare. I've replaced all the usual html angle brackets with squiggly brackets so the code will - I hope - show up here:
{img class="ql_iconthing flim" src="/pics/steps-3.gif"}{/a}{a href="javascript:javascript:edv(164584, 4201, 'The Fable of the Bees: And Other Writings');"}Iliad Bookshop{/a}{/div}{div class="ql_printdisplay_line" bsm_code="1:924"}{a href="javascript:#"}{img class="ql_iconthing flim" src="/pics/steps-3.5-off.gif"}{/a}{a href="javascript:#"}Strand Bookstore{/a}{/div}{div class="ql_printdisplay_line" bsm_code="1:7517"}{a href="javascript:javascript:edv(164584, 7517, 'The Fable of the Bees: And Other Writings');"}
(edited to emphasize the problematic part of the code)
114235711
Clicking Audible on the Get This Book page gives:
Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_ebooks.php on line 80
Happens no matter what the book is.
Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/html/ajax_editions_ebooks.php on line 80
Happens no matter what the book is.
115damsel58
My edit quick links is still hanging. They show up just fine on a work page, but when I click the pencil, it hangs indefinately on a white page with the Librarything banner across the top. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/damsel58/hangingedit.jpg) I've tried to edit from two different computers now.
116infiniteletters
115: Reproducing.
117conceptDawg
I'll take a look.
120infiniteletters
I can edit Quick Links now.
121markbarnes
I'm seeing a bug on Local Book Search.
Waterstone's shops are coming up with a link to Foyles. The data in Local is correct, so I presume that's a switch at your end causing the problem.
And while I'm here, have you thought about getting WHSmith into the system? They're bigger than Waterstones and Borders in the UK.
Waterstone's shops are coming up with a link to Foyles. The data in Local is correct, so I presume that's a switch at your end causing the problem.
And while I'm here, have you thought about getting WHSmith into the system? They're bigger than Waterstones and Borders in the UK.
122Minthe
Since damsel58 seems to be the only one who reported that Edit Qick Links does not work on IE, I'd like to mention that I've got the same problem. I am on IE7, and unfortunatly have no option for a different browser or an upgrade.
123KingRat
Two more related to the MAGICNUMBER searches (previous bug still not fixed either).
Second bug (in addition to the first one I reported): I entered a title search string for Seattle Public Library. When I click on it in Local Book Search to bring up a Pop-up, something like the following shows:
Search by title .......................................... Show More
A Marvelous Hundred Square Miles: Black Hills Tourism, 1880-1941
The title is a link that searches the SPL catalog for the title. But when I click on "Show More", a bunch more links show up. Those links do not search for the title. They search for MAGICNUMBER literally.
Third bug, also related to SPL. There's an uneditable ISBN search embedded. That string is: http://catalog.spl.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?index=ISBNEX&term=MAGICNUMBER
However, when ISBN search links are created by LT Local Book Search, the following string is created:
http://catalog.spl.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?index=0930289528EX&term=0930289528
The ISBN is replaced in the search string. But it shouldn't. index=ISBNEX should be a hard-coded term for SPL.
Second bug (in addition to the first one I reported): I entered a title search string for Seattle Public Library. When I click on it in Local Book Search to bring up a Pop-up, something like the following shows:
Search by title .......................................... Show More
A Marvelous Hundred Square Miles: Black Hills Tourism, 1880-1941
The title is a link that searches the SPL catalog for the title. But when I click on "Show More", a bunch more links show up. Those links do not search for the title. They search for MAGICNUMBER literally.
Third bug, also related to SPL. There's an uneditable ISBN search embedded. That string is: http://catalog.spl.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?index=ISBNEX&term=MAGICNUMBER
However, when ISBN search links are created by LT Local Book Search, the following string is created:
http://catalog.spl.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?index=0930289528EX&term=0930289528
The ISBN is replaced in the search string. But it shouldn't. index=ISBNEX should be a hard-coded term for SPL.
125timspalding
Be more specific?
126235711
I don't know if this is what damsel58 means, but on my computer, the problem described in #112 is still there. In addition, the header and sidebar load, but the rest of the page only gives me "Edit Your Quick Links" and the tabs "Popular" and "Online", with nothing below them.
127timspalding
Thanks. I'll make sure it's on Chris' radar.
129jpers36
I am having the same issue as damsel58.
Edit: I should mention, IE7 and IE8 depending on home or work.
Edit: I should mention, IE7 and IE8 depending on home or work.
130damsel58
If I can't get this problem fixed, can I beg one of the PTB to add Pikes Peak Library District (www.ppld) to my list? The list shows up fine. I just can't /edit/ the bloody thing.
132derekwalker
I'm having the same issue as markbarnes in #121, but with a little more detail:
On both 'Get This Book' and 'Local Book Search' pages, the Waterstones and Blackwell locations, whenever they return a 'Blind item link', actually link to www.foyles.com instead of to a Javascript pop-up box. Sometimes I get Blackwells stores showing up with an 'Unavailable/unknown' icon instead, and those then have the correct link. Waterstones seem to always be 'Blind item' with the wrong link.
This is, of course, for locations set in the UK. When I set my location in the USA, stores seem to always have the correct link, whether they are 'Blind items' or 'Unavailables'. This may indicate that it's a problem with the Waterstones & Blackwell connections specifically.
On both 'Get This Book' and 'Local Book Search' pages, the Waterstones and Blackwell locations, whenever they return a 'Blind item link', actually link to www.foyles.com instead of to a Javascript pop-up box. Sometimes I get Blackwells stores showing up with an 'Unavailable/unknown' icon instead, and those then have the correct link. Waterstones seem to always be 'Blind item' with the wrong link.
This is, of course, for locations set in the UK. When I set my location in the USA, stores seem to always have the correct link, whether they are 'Blind items' or 'Unavailables'. This may indicate that it's a problem with the Waterstones & Blackwell connections specifically.
133damsel58
Still can't edit. Please, can a PTB at least acknowledge that they've seen and looked at this?
Please see posts 115, 101, 83, and 130.
Please see posts 115, 101, 83, and 130.
134timspalding
Sorry. It's on Chris' list today. It's his code. He just returned from a week's vacation, so it didn't get looked at.
136conceptDawg
So I'm back from my snowy vacation and I'm looking into the failure to load by IE8 browsers. I can't duplicate here though. The edit page loads just fine in my copy of IE8. I'm continuing to look into it.
137conceptDawg
Should be fixed. Let me know if you see that it's not.
140masterdeski
Okay, maybe this has been mentioned before, and I just didn't see the message, if so, sorry for the repitition.
I can't figure out how to remove links from the preferred list on the Edit Quick Links page. I went hog wild and added a bunch in, but now I've changed my mind, and they won't go away. :(
I've tried dragging them out of the list order box, and clicking on the big red minus sign circles.
Please help...
I can't figure out how to remove links from the preferred list on the Edit Quick Links page. I went hog wild and added a bunch in, but now I've changed my mind, and they won't go away. :(
I've tried dragging them out of the list order box, and clicking on the big red minus sign circles.
Please help...
141235711
140: It bears repeating. The problem is that the entire grey bar is a button for dragging, when clearly the red circle should be another button, for clicking.
142conceptDawg
masterdeski, are you getting any errors when you click on the red minus signs? Those should do the trick.
143235711
They should, but they don't - not for me in any case. Each minus sign is the same button as the grey bar surrounding it; when you click one you can only drag the link op or down, not remove it.
144FicusFan
The red minus sign works for me. I just used it within the past hour.
What doesn't always work is the link to the off site location. I was looking to find an example but haven't found one yet today.
Sometimes when I click on a link I can see stuff happening in the URL bar, but I never get to the other site. I stay on LT. Not sure why.
What doesn't always work is the link to the off site location. I was looking to find an example but haven't found one yet today.
Sometimes when I click on a link I can see stuff happening in the URL bar, but I never get to the other site. I stay on LT. Not sure why.
145conceptDawg
I'll check out the red button problem. Probably just a styling issue that's keeping them from being clickable in IE8. That is what you're using, correct?
147masterdeski
No the red button does not give me an error message, or any other thing, aside from being able to move the bar up and down. And yes, I am using IE8.
148lorax
Bumping #53. Is this still an issue (stores with a broken and un-editable ISBN link from Indiebound) or has it been dealt with?
149geitebukkeskjegg
# 67, 69: The "find out more" link on the venue pages still goes nowhere.
Untill it's fixed, I'm reluctant to contact any of my local VenueThings about their LT entries. They might want to find out more... ;-)
Untill it's fixed, I'm reluctant to contact any of my local VenueThings about their LT entries. They might want to find out more... ;-)
151jjwilson61
It might work better if you started a new thread. Do you think the developers are going to look back 100 messages to see what this is about?
152lorax
151>
I think they're capable of using the search function in their browsers, yes, or of looking up two messages to 148 where I summarize the issue. (And this way, all outstanding problems with this feature, including those that geitebukkesjegg mentions in #149 and the non-functioning removal in #147, remain in one place.) Do you really think they'll say "oh, a bug bump, but it references a previous post, we couldn't possibly know what it's about?" Really?
I think they're capable of using the search function in their browsers, yes, or of looking up two messages to 148 where I summarize the issue. (And this way, all outstanding problems with this feature, including those that geitebukkesjegg mentions in #149 and the non-functioning removal in #147, remain in one place.) Do you really think they'll say "oh, a bug bump, but it references a previous post, we couldn't possibly know what it's about?" Really?
153jjwilson61
I just think, given how busy they are, that they won't bother. If you want to bring attention to it, it just makes sense to me to put it in a dedicated thread, not a 150+ post thread that has a bunch of different problems in it all jumbled together.
154timspalding
Reposting:
Repeating Lorax question:
> The local independent (Vroman's) has the ISBN link coming from
> IndieBound, but that link doesn't actually work. There is a working
> ISBN search, but since the store is in IndieBound I can't edit the link
> in Local. Is there any workaround?
I just added an ISBN search for UW Bookstore, http://www.librarything.com/venue/3193, but it doesn't work since the Indiebound search takes precedence apparently. The ISBN searches for this bookstore in the pop-up just go back to Local Search rather than IndieBound OR the ISBN search I added.
I'll take a look, but not now.
Repeating Lorax question:
> The local independent (Vroman's) has the ISBN link coming from
> IndieBound, but that link doesn't actually work. There is a working
> ISBN search, but since the store is in IndieBound I can't edit the link
> in Local. Is there any workaround?
I just added an ISBN search for UW Bookstore, http://www.librarything.com/venue/3193, but it doesn't work since the Indiebound search takes precedence apparently. The ISBN searches for this bookstore in the pop-up just go back to Local Search rather than IndieBound OR the ISBN search I added.
I'll take a look, but not now.
155rsterling
There's a bug report here about the GoodReads link in QuickLinks. Not clear exactly what the problem is:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/84016
Something that's not really a bug: because the quick link URLs can be edited by anyone, I've been noticing a lot of them are getting broken by people changing or adding information. For instance, the GoodReads main homepage link now goes to someone's personal profile instead of the main GR homepage. I've also seen, and fixed, mistakes in URLs for other stores and sites, where someone had messed up the URL or entered it in a way that won't work. Can we get some kind of a disclaimer in that lightbox saying that changes made here affect the entire site, so be careful?
Actual bug report: The Strand's link in "get this book" is still broken. I think I reported that I while ago. I don't see anything wrong with the URLs on the Local page for the Strand, but on the "get this book" page the hyperlink for the Strand is just blank.
If I hover over it, I get javascript:# as opposed to what happens when I hover over another bookseller on my list (without the spaces): javascript: javascript: edv (185271,%204201, %20'The%20inheritance%20of%20loss');
http://www.librarything.com/topic/84016
Something that's not really a bug: because the quick link URLs can be edited by anyone, I've been noticing a lot of them are getting broken by people changing or adding information. For instance, the GoodReads main homepage link now goes to someone's personal profile instead of the main GR homepage. I've also seen, and fixed, mistakes in URLs for other stores and sites, where someone had messed up the URL or entered it in a way that won't work. Can we get some kind of a disclaimer in that lightbox saying that changes made here affect the entire site, so be careful?
Actual bug report: The Strand's link in "get this book" is still broken. I think I reported that I while ago. I don't see anything wrong with the URLs on the Local page for the Strand, but on the "get this book" page the hyperlink for the Strand is just blank.
If I hover over it, I get javascript:# as opposed to what happens when I hover over another bookseller on my list (without the spaces): javascript: javascript: edv (185271,%204201, %20'The%20inheritance%20of%20loss');
156rsterling
By the way, that changes aren't being logged to the proper people in the helper's log. See the changes logged under Feb. 28 - the future! - all of which seem to point toward sites and profiles specific to member SandrasACRE, but some of which are being attributed to other members (whose original edits she probably changed?)
http://www.librarything.com/log_helpers.php?view=misc&span=168
It seems that this can potentially be manipulated for spam purposes, if anyone can add a bookstore/link.
PS - is there any way we could get a "history" for these links, so we can revert back to previous in cases like this?
http://www.librarything.com/log_helpers.php?view=misc&span=168
It seems that this can potentially be manipulated for spam purposes, if anyone can add a bookstore/link.
PS - is there any way we could get a "history" for these links, so we can revert back to previous in cases like this?
157FicusFan
I have reported a bug where if you go to Local and click on the link for Barnes & Noble - Nashua the light box comes up to search Blackwell a site in the UK.
I have checked the links in the set up and it goes to the right place in Venues and all the URLS are for Barnes & Noble.
Perhaps someone combined it with something else?
It was back on December 30th, still an issue.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/80425#1680696
I have checked the links in the set up and it goes to the right place in Venues and all the URLS are for Barnes & Noble.
Perhaps someone combined it with something else?
It was back on December 30th, still an issue.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/80425#1680696
158rsterling
There needs to be a way to delete entries from the "editquicklinks - popular" page (not my personal quick links but the master list you can add from). It's very easy to add links here, but there's no way to delete them, and there are several duplicates.
For instance, these need to be deleted:
-- "Biblio books" in Online > Booksellers (there's already a biblio entry in Price Comparison)
-- one or other of Buch.de or buch.de in Online > Booksellers
-- one or other of Buchhandlung Gerbers or Buchhandlung Gerbers im Internet, in Online > Booksellers
It would be nice to have a search function here too, so you can see whether something's already there before adding a new link. There's a search for physical bookstores connected to Local, but not for the other links.
For instance, these need to be deleted:
-- "Biblio books" in Online > Booksellers (there's already a biblio entry in Price Comparison)
-- one or other of Buch.de or buch.de in Online > Booksellers
-- one or other of Buchhandlung Gerbers or Buchhandlung Gerbers im Internet, in Online > Booksellers
It would be nice to have a search function here too, so you can see whether something's already there before adding a new link. There's a search for physical bookstores connected to Local, but not for the other links.
159rsterling
Other quick link entries that probably shouldn't be there, i.e. should be deleted:
"Find A Grave Famous Memorials" in Online > Databases/Consortia
"Journalists, Authors, and Literary Related Obituary Page" in Online > Databases/Consortia
Also, this one should not be in Online > Booksellers but in Online > Libraries:
North Carolina State University Library
Incidentally, it seems the ease of adding links makes this rife for spam. Is it possible to add a "flag" to the lightbox, so that people can indicate spam or otherwise inappropriate quick links? (Maybe two-tier like in reviews: a flag for TOS violation, and one for "not a get-this-book" link.)
"Find A Grave Famous Memorials" in Online > Databases/Consortia
"Journalists, Authors, and Literary Related Obituary Page" in Online > Databases/Consortia
Also, this one should not be in Online > Booksellers but in Online > Libraries:
North Carolina State University Library
Incidentally, it seems the ease of adding links makes this rife for spam. Is it possible to add a "flag" to the lightbox, so that people can indicate spam or otherwise inappropriate quick links? (Maybe two-tier like in reviews: a flag for TOS violation, and one for "not a get-this-book" link.)
160Heather19
Okay, I admit I haven't read this entire thread, but this seems like the place to post this bug?
I'm trying to do a "get this book" thing, and it won't work. I'm on the "All sources" page, and I click one of the links (ebay, Alibris, etc), it brings up the edition box, I click on an edition, and it just reloads the page. It doesn't take me anywhere. I've been trying this for three days now, and it works on some links but not others, and not consistantly.
I'm trying to do a "get this book" thing, and it won't work. I'm on the "All sources" page, and I click one of the links (ebay, Alibris, etc), it brings up the edition box, I click on an edition, and it just reloads the page. It doesn't take me anywhere. I've been trying this for three days now, and it works on some links but not others, and not consistantly.
161rsterling
160: I was getting that too for some of them, but not all. I think it happens when the URL for the ISBN search isn't entered. It definitely isn't there for eBay (you can go to "edit quick links" then "edit" next to ebay). I'm not sure about Alibris: there are 2 Alibris entries, one "Alibris" and one "alibris," and only the latter is editable (and it does have the ISBN search URL). Maybe the Alibris ISBN link is broken.
Relatedly, I've noticed that even when I add a URL for a title search for online bookstores (not the ones connected to local) it doesn't show up in the light box. There's just no option for title search in the lightbox.
Relatedly, I've noticed that even when I add a URL for a title search for online bookstores (not the ones connected to local) it doesn't show up in the light box. There's just no option for title search in the lightbox.
162DaynaRT
On the Local Book Search page, Barnes and Noble links are still pointing to some Blackwell site.
163FicusFan
> 162 Thank you, thank you. I posted about it, even started a thread, and it seemed like I was the only one. I posted a screen shot and Tim said it would go on the list, but that was a while ago.
All the local links that I can edit/look at for B&N have the correct URL, so it up to TPTB to fix.
All the local links that I can edit/look at for B&N have the correct URL, so it up to TPTB to fix.
164timspalding
Thanks for keeping on this. I'm back a few messages. At least I can mark that now :)

