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Forever Peace by Joe Haldeman

Forever Peace

by Joe Haldeman

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Series: Forever War (Thematic Sequel)

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    The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (sturlington)
    sturlington: Forever Peace is a thematic sequel to The Forever War.
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    Washington's War on Nicaragua by Holly Sklar (LamontCranston)

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excellent story ( )
  longhorndaniel | Jul 19, 2017 |
I just reread Forever Peace. It's been several years since I read it originally, and I hoped that my opinion somehow changed regarding the quality of this novel.

I loved The Forever War, it is probably in the top 20 of all science fiction novels ever written. I had high expectations of this novel, considering it was marketed as part of the "Forever Universe". However, as far as I can tell it's not part of that universe at all, and the labeling must somehow be part of a Marketing plan designed to take advantage of the popularity of the Forever War.

The plot of the book is intriguing, how can humanity not wage war.

While the main character is sympathetic and interesting, there are times in the book that Haldeman can't explain through his characters what is occurring and so he resorts to some 3rd person omnipotent narrator that catches us up to whats going on. When this happens its so jarring that you lose the character's perspective and it drops you out of the entire mood of the novel. This catch-up process occurs throughout the book to describe what is happening outside of your characters and it doesn't work. At all. Disappointing.

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  bhuesers | Mar 29, 2017 |
Awful piece of rubbish. ( )
  apomonis | Jun 2, 2016 |
I really enjoyed this story. As the summary says, "two creatures have wandered the Earth for generations. The aliens have no knowledge of each other...One, the changeling, has survived by adaptation, taking the shapes of many different organisms. The other, the chameleon, has survived solely by destroying anything or anyone that threatens it." I thought the development of the aliens was great - the changeling develops an empathy toward the humans it encounters and sometimes becomes; the chameleon develops into a malevolent being whose favorite human is Josef Mengele.

There are some areas where the book appeared too farfetched - especially the response of one of the main characters to discovering the existence of an alien - but overall the story held my interest and was actually quite a study in human behavior and rituals. ( )
  bhabeck | Mar 6, 2016 |
Although not a direct sequel to The Forever War, Forever Peace similarly explored war and the impact it has on society and soldiers, although from an entirely different angle. While Forever War explored issues surrounding the Vietnam War through a story of intergalactic war against aliens and space travel, Forever Peace is firmly earth-bound, providing a more modern look at war with explorations of colonization and race relations.

The Alliance clearly represents wealthy white culture with powerful robots driven by mentally linked soldiers. The Alliance has the ability to easily manufacture just about anything, from food to clothes to modern technology, by feeding the details into a machine. The Ngumi, which are not allowed access to these machines, represent parts of Africa and South America, poor and fighting back against more powerful force with guerrilla tactics. The story is told by a single Alliance soldier, Julien, who is drafted into the war and feels sympathetic in the face of the far less powerful enemy.

I didn't quite love Forever Peace the way I did Forever War. The POV switched back and forth between Julien's first person view and third person, which was confusing at first. Despite the slow start, it built into thrilling conclusion. Although the ending wrapped up in a way that was a bit unsettling.

Nevertheless, it's an interesting novel and one that could spark plenty of discussion. ( )
  andreablythe | Apr 14, 2015 |
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Author nameRoleType of authorWork?Status
Joe Haldemanprimary authorall editionscalculated
Hrnčíř, Mareksecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Jensen, BruceCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Moore, ChrisCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Reß-Bohusch, BirgitTranslatorsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Rogner, Jürgen F.Cover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed

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Julian Class is a full-time professor and part-time combat veteran who spends a third of each month virtually wired to a robotic "soldierboy." The soldierboys, along with flyboys and other advanced constructs, allow the U.S. to wage a remotely controlled war against constant uprisings in the Third World. The conflicts are largely driven by the so-called First World countries' access to nanoforges--devices that can almost instantly manufacture any product imaginable, given the proper raw materials--and the Third World countries' lack of access to these devices. But even as Julian learns that the consensual reality shared by soldierboy operators can lead to universal peace, the nanoforges create a way for humanity to utterly destroy itself, and it will be a race against time to see which will happen first. Although Forever Peace bears a title similar to Joe Haldeman's classic novel The Forever War, he says it's not a sequel.

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2043 A.D.: The Ngumi War rages. A burned-out soldier and his scientist lover discover a secret that could put the universe back to square one. And it is not terrifying. It is tempting...

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