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2eromsted
It would help to have a link to the event filtering preferences somewhere on the main local page. It's not at all obvious that filtering is even an option. And though I knew it was available from prior talk discussion, it took me a while to find it.
4lilithcat
As a result of the fact that I cannot delete minimalist duplicate events that have been added automatically, I am seriously considering bailing out of adding events altogether.
Why?
Because when I add an information-rich event, and it is later duplicated by an automatic program that gives no information other than date and author (slews of them don't even give the time of the event!), the only way to eliminate the duplication is to delete the information that I spent time finding and providing, and adding it to the automatically added event.
So why should I waste my time adding events in the first place?
Why?
Because when I add an information-rich event, and it is later duplicated by an automatic program that gives no information other than date and author (slews of them don't even give the time of the event!), the only way to eliminate the duplication is to delete the information that I spent time finding and providing, and adding it to the automatically added event.
So why should I waste my time adding events in the first place?
5timspalding
Can you give me an example and I'll troubleshoot it?
Two things should happen:
1. I need to make it so that deleted events cannot be re-added automatically. I'm not sure of the situation there.
2. It should never add an event automatically if we have the same event from another source. This is defined as another event at the same time for the same venue. Unfortunately, some of the of the publisher events have no time set.
Two things should happen:
1. I need to make it so that deleted events cannot be re-added automatically. I'm not sure of the situation there.
2. It should never add an event automatically if we have the same event from another source. This is defined as another event at the same time for the same venue. Unfortunately, some of the of the publisher events have no time set.
6lilithcat
See the Peter Hook events here: http://www.librarything.com/venue/26242/Museum-of-Contemporary-Art (Note: I tried to delete the second one by editing it, which didn't work as it had previously, so that may show as added by me when it was an automatic one.)
9Linkmeister
How the heck do you change the status of a local venue now? A couple of my local bookstores have gone out of business, and I'd like to change the status to defunct (Borders is one and a mom n' pop is the other).
10jbd1
>9 Linkmeister: - That works the same as before - click the "Edit venue info" link and check the "Defunct" box on that page.
11MarthaJeanne
The member list is horrrible.The thumbnails are so blurry they aren't an advantage. And because of them and the formatting the page goes on and
on and
on and...
At the very least all the lists need to have an alphabetical option to be able to find anything.
on and
on and...
At the very least all the lists need to have an alphabetical option to be able to find anything.
12lilithcat
RE: the member list
What constitutes "nearby" for the purposes of this list? I see people more than 40 miles away from me!
What constitutes "nearby" for the purposes of this list? I see people more than 40 miles away from me!
13Caesia
I like the speed and bigger maps, but I cannot see how to list onl the bookshops - without libraries and events. Have I missed something?
It also looks as though the list comes in distance order - is that right?
It also looks as though the list comes in distance order - is that right?
14MarthaJeanne
13> No, I have people in Bratislava above others in Vienna. (Bratislava is an hour away by car. And in another country with a very different language.)
I also have several people fairly high on the list with no books. If someone has no books catalogued and has belonged since 2008 what is the purpose of including them here?
I also have several people fairly high on the list with no books. If someone has no books catalogued and has belonged since 2008 what is the purpose of including them here?
15timspalding
The member list is horrrible.The thumbnails are so blurry they aren't an advantage. And because of them and the formatting the page goes on and
LT:
Photoshop:
We've gone over this before, but I agree—our resizing isn't as good as Photoshop can do, anyway.
What constitutes "nearby" for the purposes of this list? I see people more than 40 miles away from me!
The maximum is 45. My feeling is that that's a reasonably short drive—it's not inconceivable you'd both go to a bookish event at the same time, have coffee or whatever—and insofar as you live in the Boston area, chances are that, even if they live in Beverley, or whatever, they're commuting to the same places as you.
At the very least all the lists need to have an alphabetical option to be able to find anything.
To find what, exactly? You want to know all the people whose user name starts with Q near you? What possible use does that have?
I also have several people fairly high on the list with no books. If someone has no books catalogued and has belonged since 2008 what is the purpose of including them here?
You're got a fairly short list—less than 200 total. The first 0-er is at 85, half-way down. There are some people after him, but a lot have 0s too. I can see bumping him down further.
13> No, I have people in Bratislava above others in Vienna. (Bratislava is an hour away by car. And in another country with a very different language.)
Okay, but look, but 1-14 are all Vienna with one suburb. Then you get one Bratislava—someone who shares 15 works and is on the site a lot—followed by eleven more Viennas. I don't think it's so very out of proportion.
LT:
Photoshop:
We've gone over this before, but I agree—our resizing isn't as good as Photoshop can do, anyway.
What constitutes "nearby" for the purposes of this list? I see people more than 40 miles away from me!
The maximum is 45. My feeling is that that's a reasonably short drive—it's not inconceivable you'd both go to a bookish event at the same time, have coffee or whatever—and insofar as you live in the Boston area, chances are that, even if they live in Beverley, or whatever, they're commuting to the same places as you.
At the very least all the lists need to have an alphabetical option to be able to find anything.
To find what, exactly? You want to know all the people whose user name starts with Q near you? What possible use does that have?
I also have several people fairly high on the list with no books. If someone has no books catalogued and has belonged since 2008 what is the purpose of including them here?
You're got a fairly short list—less than 200 total. The first 0-er is at 85, half-way down. There are some people after him, but a lot have 0s too. I can see bumping him down further.
13> No, I have people in Bratislava above others in Vienna. (Bratislava is an hour away by car. And in another country with a very different language.)
Okay, but look, but 1-14 are all Vienna with one suburb. Then you get one Bratislava—someone who shares 15 works and is on the site a lot—followed by eleven more Viennas. I don't think it's so very out of proportion.
16Lman
I would like to filter out defunct book stores or such - is there a way to do this? It annoys me my closest store or book fair shows up highest, but is now gone. :(
18krazy4katz
Interesting list of members, but I am trying to figure out how they are sorted. Would it be possible to sort by distance from you? That might be useful.
Thanks,
k4k
Thanks,
k4k
19lilithcat
> 18
On that page, it says "Members are sorted semi-randomly, with more active LibraryThing members nearer the top of the list."
On that page, it says "Members are sorted semi-randomly, with more active LibraryThing members nearer the top of the list."
21AnnaClaire
Ditto on hiding defunct venues. 7th Avenue Books and Park Slope Books head off my list, and I marked them both as defunct when I entered them -- back when "from where?" was introduced.
Failing that could we please just nest repeating festivals? Venues 10-13 on my list are all various Years of KingCon. Last year's was the most recent, but considering that it was last November and that 2011, 2010, and 2009 took place at the same address and about the same time of year, doesn't it just make sense to compress them somehow?
Failing that could we please just nest repeating festivals? Venues 10-13 on my list are all various Years of KingCon. Last year's was the most recent, but considering that it was last November and that 2011, 2010, and 2009 took place at the same address and about the same time of year, doesn't it just make sense to compress them somehow?
22MarthaJeanne
15> Quite honestly, I never saw the point of the local member's list, but at least it used to be possible to see most of it with very little scrolling. Now with the amount of scrolling I'll never go back there anyway.
The alphabetical was not only the local members, but even more the local venues. I get a long list and then '143 more'. Distance from the centre of the city is not a useful sort.
The alphabetical was not only the local members, but even more the local venues. I get a long list and then '143 more'. Distance from the centre of the city is not a useful sort.
23GirlFromIpanema
Viewing this in the*.de domain.
The pop-up "Review your location", which shows up on first access and asks me to enter my private and public location is not translateable (not listed in the labels for the specific page, nor in the "all translations" list). :-) Off to play with the features now --I'll be back...
More untranslatables: On the members page, in the right hand box "how it works", the first paragraph is not translatable (not yellow, but english).
Cool, I can enter my street (never tried that before). *sob* no members in my town. But I see a few trans-border members from Sønderborg, Denmark (all more or less active) in the top 20 :-). The odd one out is "brianna.brin - Bitburg Middle School" (my guess: American). Even if it is in fact a US Army facility in Bitburg in Germany, that is still 750 km or so away from here. Correction: The Google map link goes to a country road near Schleswig (60 km from here), named "Schoolbek".
More later :-)
The pop-up "Review your location", which shows up on first access and asks me to enter my private and public location is not translateable (not listed in the labels for the specific page, nor in the "all translations" list). :-) Off to play with the features now --I'll be back...
More untranslatables: On the members page, in the right hand box "how it works", the first paragraph is not translatable (not yellow, but english).
Cool, I can enter my street (never tried that before). *sob* no members in my town. But I see a few trans-border members from Sønderborg, Denmark (all more or less active) in the top 20 :-). The odd one out is "brianna.brin - Bitburg Middle School" (my guess: American). Even if it is in fact a US Army facility in Bitburg in Germany, that is still 750 km or so away from here. Correction: The Google map link goes to a country road near Schleswig (60 km from here), named "Schoolbek".
More later :-)
24gilroy
Is there a way to filter the venues to not show the defunct ones? They used to not show in the list before the redo. Now I'm seeing them.
Example:
On my local list, Bay Books still shows, even though they are marked as defunct...
Example:
On my local list, Bay Books still shows, even though they are marked as defunct...
25jbd1
>24 gilroy: - See 16-21 - I'll ask Tim to look at this today. They shouldn't be showing up.
26aulsmith
I enjoyed scrolling through the local members. The organization of the list made sense to me.
27timspalding
Distance from the centre of the city is not a useful sort
It's based on your private location, not your public. You can make that your neighborhood or even exact address. It's distance from you.
The alphabetical was not only the local members, but even more the local venues. I get a long list and then '143 more'.
I'm confounded. You want the list to include all venues, without a "more," and be sorted alphabetically?
It's based on your private location, not your public. You can make that your neighborhood or even exact address. It's distance from you.
The alphabetical was not only the local members, but even more the local venues. I get a long list and then '143 more'.
I'm confounded. You want the list to include all venues, without a "more," and be sorted alphabetically?
28MarthaJeanne
Alphabetical sort would at least let me check whether something was in there. And find it if it is. Currently the list is full of places I will never go to, and if there is anything that might be interesting, I won't find it.
Kilometers from my home isn't useful either, as some parts of Vienna are easy to get to, or I am frequently in that area, others just aren't. This has very little to do with absolute distance.
Best would be a way to ignore 75-80% of the entries.
Like I said, I haven't used local much in the past, and don't miss it. The only times it was really useful was before trips, but then there is no map to see where the bookstores are. So only once did I actually find bookstores based on this.
Kilometers from my home isn't useful either, as some parts of Vienna are easy to get to, or I am frequently in that area, others just aren't. This has very little to do with absolute distance.
Best would be a way to ignore 75-80% of the entries.
Like I said, I haven't used local much in the past, and don't miss it. The only times it was really useful was before trips, but then there is no map to see where the bookstores are. So only once did I actually find bookstores based on this.
29gilroy
Looking at the local members, I wanted to see if we could have a way to filter the list. For instance, I'd like to filter out library/commercial accounts and legacy accounts. (Frederick Douglas appears in my list. *smirk*) Even allowing for a sort for distance from home or alphabetical.
30timspalding
but then there is no map to see where the bookstores are
As opposed to the bookstores and the libraries together?
As opposed to the bookstores and the libraries together?
31LolaWalser
Can we have Profiles as before? As there doesn't seem to be any organic connection between changes to Local, and Profile sections.
32timspalding
Can we have Profiles as before? As there doesn't seem to be any organic connection between changes to Local, and Profile sections.
See http://www.librarything.com/topic/149567
See http://www.librarything.com/topic/149567
33jbd1
New: in the Local Settings box at http://www.librarything.com/local (right side of the page, under the map) you can set your location, search radius, and which types of venues you want to see. So if you just want to see bookstores, or want to see only bookstore + libraries, or want to see everything, go for it!
34jbd1
More new: we've add an "all | most" selector at the top of the venues column. By default this will be set to "most", and you'll see active venues of the types you've selected (as set out in #33 just above). Selecting "all" will show you everything (all venues of all types), including defunct venues (so marked).
35timspalding
>34 jbd1:
Basically, the "all" overrides what you've chosen on the bottom right AND shows you defunct venues. It's a compromise…
Basically, the "all" overrides what you've chosen on the bottom right AND shows you defunct venues. It's a compromise…
36FicusFan
I long ago lost any desire to visit the Local tab because there is too much chaff to wade through. I don't see that this change is any improvement.
I have no interest in venues outside my town, except for the ones I have favorited. Even the listing in my town is full of junk. I don't want to change whats on the map, (don't need a map), I want to change the listing of events to the left of the map, and the listing of venues. I want the option for a lot less.
I care about what comes over on my homepage. The old version allowed me to set the search range down to 5 miles. It now lists 25 miles as the range (on the bottom under the map).
How do I set the Search range ? On Your Local Page it lists hundreds of events/venues. I don't want all those listings. It might be someone's Local page, but it sure isn't mine.
I would prefer that the items listed on my homepage and Your Local either be events from venues on Your Favorites and not from Venues on Your local page, or again allow me to drop the search distance WAAAAY down.
I am not asking to make my requests the default or only way, rather just to allow some options so it can be set to individual preferences.
I have no interest in venues outside my town, except for the ones I have favorited. Even the listing in my town is full of junk. I don't want to change whats on the map, (don't need a map), I want to change the listing of events to the left of the map, and the listing of venues. I want the option for a lot less.
I care about what comes over on my homepage. The old version allowed me to set the search range down to 5 miles. It now lists 25 miles as the range (on the bottom under the map).
How do I set the Search range ? On Your Local Page it lists hundreds of events/venues. I don't want all those listings. It might be someone's Local page, but it sure isn't mine.
I would prefer that the items listed on my homepage and Your Local either be events from venues on Your Favorites and not from Venues on Your local page, or again allow me to drop the search distance WAAAAY down.
I am not asking to make my requests the default or only way, rather just to allow some options so it can be set to individual preferences.
37jbd1
>36 FicusFan: - See #33 for at least some of this. You can also set certain preferences in the Local section on your Home page (mouse over the section and you'll see a pencil icon - click that and set preferences). You can see just your favorites by choosing "Your favorites" at the top of the Local page (http://www.librarything.com/local/favorites).
38jjwilson61
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39FicusFan
> 37 - The only thing in the box that can be edited is Location. The rest are all just print with no links.
OK, I found the link to edit. It is just a faint round blob at the top. Usually there is pencil.
I changed it to 5 miles and asked for book stores and libraries. Much Better. Does this mean only events from these venues will show up on my Homepage Local module ?
There are still venues that I don't want to see. There should be a way to mark a venue that you don't want to see, so it is hidden for you, but visible to others.
These are attached to a College in town and are only useful/available if you attend the College.
Regina Library (1.1 miles)
420 S. Main St., Nashua, NH 03060
Rivier Bookstore (1.1 miles)
420 S. Main St, Nashua, NH 03060
Why is this even listed ? it isn't open to the public ( just try to get into a school with no reason to be there). Not to mention it is the main office for the administration of the local schools and is unlikely to have a library on the premises. The link to the on-line catalog doesn't work.
Nashua Public Schools (1.1 miles)
141 Ledge Street, Nashua, NH 03060
OK, I found the link to edit. It is just a faint round blob at the top. Usually there is pencil.
I changed it to 5 miles and asked for book stores and libraries. Much Better. Does this mean only events from these venues will show up on my Homepage Local module ?
There are still venues that I don't want to see. There should be a way to mark a venue that you don't want to see, so it is hidden for you, but visible to others.
These are attached to a College in town and are only useful/available if you attend the College.
Regina Library (1.1 miles)
420 S. Main St., Nashua, NH 03060
Rivier Bookstore (1.1 miles)
420 S. Main St, Nashua, NH 03060
Why is this even listed ? it isn't open to the public ( just try to get into a school with no reason to be there). Not to mention it is the main office for the administration of the local schools and is unlikely to have a library on the premises. The link to the on-line catalog doesn't work.
Nashua Public Schools (1.1 miles)
141 Ledge Street, Nashua, NH 03060
40lilithcat
>39 FicusFan:
There should be a way to mark a venue that you don't want to see, so it is hidden for you, but visible to others.
There is.
Go to any event at that venue. Click on the "x". You'll get a drop-down box that, among other things, allows you to filter out that venue.
There should be a way to mark a venue that you don't want to see, so it is hidden for you, but visible to others.
There is.
Go to any event at that venue. Click on the "x". You'll get a drop-down box that, among other things, allows you to filter out that venue.
41FicusFan
None of the 3 have any events listed, ever it looks like. So there is no way to hide them.
42timspalding
It only hides them from events. I'm not convinced we need a special way to hide a venue on the left.
43FicusFan
I also have an event listed that is not from any of the venues I have chosen to see. I have chosen Libraries and Book Stores. The event is at a local hotel, and was added by Macmillan (the author's publisher). It is being sponsored or is part of a local wacky political group's convention.
The event lists the Hotel as Others, so it is not a Book Store or Library, yet it is listed.
It looks like venues and events are not connected ? Isn't that an odd way to look at it? I only want Libraries and Book Stores, but am going to get other random events and have to go into each one to hide it and/or the venue ?
The event lists the Hotel as Others, so it is not a Book Store or Library, yet it is listed.
It looks like venues and events are not connected ? Isn't that an odd way to look at it? I only want Libraries and Book Stores, but am going to get other random events and have to go into each one to hide it and/or the venue ?
44FicusFan
> 42 Well that may induce people to make up bogus events so they can hide the venue ? I won't do that, but you are setting that up as the only way to tailor/tweak Your Local if there are unused venues.
45rsterling
As I mentioned in the other thread, I would like to have one-click filtering back. I don't want to have to 1) go into settings, 2) check or uncheck one or more boxes, 3) click save -- all just to switch between seeing one type of venue and another, or to filter down to just one type, e.g. libraries. I may want my default view to have both libraries and bookstores, but I don't want to change my settings just to narrow that down to libraries only.
On the Local Members part: who shows up there? Put another way, how do I know if I show up there for other people? Is there anything that would prevent one from showing up there? (I seem to remember 1-2 versions back there was a "private location" setting or something like that.)
On the Local Members part: who shows up there? Put another way, how do I know if I show up there for other people? Is there anything that would prevent one from showing up there? (I seem to remember 1-2 versions back there was a "private location" setting or something like that.)
46brightcopy
Okay, so I've actually not been delving much into the Local discussion or feature but I thought I should give it another shot. It looks and works very nicely. I'm going to try to remember to check on it. Really wishing it did more of a push notification based on my authors (especially on my favorite authors or even just highly rated ones).
Anyway, first thing that pops up is that Al Gore's going to be down the pub tomorrow. That seemed a little odd. Really? I wasn't aware that Kieran's Irish Pub had the facilities to host a former vice president. I looked on their website and was surprised to find them not mentioning such a high profile "get". Maybe they were afraid of large crowds. A call to them and the memory of a laughing bartender fresh in my mind, I resolved to fix the error.
I found that it should be at a regular speaker event called the "Westminster Town Hall Forum" held at the "Westminster Presbyterian Church in Minneapolis. After debating on it, I created a venue for the church, since that's the physical location. I switched the even over to there and beefed up the info, adding touchstones in the description for Mr. Gore and his book.
http://www.librarything.com/venue/80945
Now, questions:
1) First off, should I have listed the venue as the Forum instead? They don't have an events RSS, so anyone looking for the forum might think it doesn't exist. Pity you can't give it alternate names. I put the Forum name in the description but none of the searches pay it any attention.
2) Why is there no image beside the event? I added touchstones for both the author and book, and both have images on LT.
3) Why was this even put into Kieran's Irish Pub? The event originally said "added from Random House" and the original event url is this. There they have the proper venue name (well, Westminster Town Hall Forum), but they have the address of the pub. Who actually got this info in here. Was this one of your scrapers, Tim? Ultimately, it seems like they need to get the address of the Forum corrected in their database.
4) Events should show the user who originally added them. That'd make it easier to talk to the person who entered it and figure out things like this.
5) When you want to filter events that are hidden "below the fold", it gets painful. Once you filter the event, it reloads the Local page and hides the extra items. So you have to go back down and expand it again. If you're going to load the events dynamically, I think you need to scrub the events dynamically as well. Otherwise it's not very feasible to clean up your events list unless the events are happening very soon.
Otherwise, looks great!
Anyway, first thing that pops up is that Al Gore's going to be down the pub tomorrow. That seemed a little odd. Really? I wasn't aware that Kieran's Irish Pub had the facilities to host a former vice president. I looked on their website and was surprised to find them not mentioning such a high profile "get". Maybe they were afraid of large crowds. A call to them and the memory of a laughing bartender fresh in my mind, I resolved to fix the error.
I found that it should be at a regular speaker event called the "Westminster Town Hall Forum" held at the "Westminster Presbyterian Church in Minneapolis. After debating on it, I created a venue for the church, since that's the physical location. I switched the even over to there and beefed up the info, adding touchstones in the description for Mr. Gore and his book.
http://www.librarything.com/venue/80945
Now, questions:
1) First off, should I have listed the venue as the Forum instead? They don't have an events RSS, so anyone looking for the forum might think it doesn't exist. Pity you can't give it alternate names. I put the Forum name in the description but none of the searches pay it any attention.
2) Why is there no image beside the event? I added touchstones for both the author and book, and both have images on LT.
3) Why was this even put into Kieran's Irish Pub? The event originally said "added from Random House" and the original event url is this. There they have the proper venue name (well, Westminster Town Hall Forum), but they have the address of the pub. Who actually got this info in here. Was this one of your scrapers, Tim? Ultimately, it seems like they need to get the address of the Forum corrected in their database.
4) Events should show the user who originally added them. That'd make it easier to talk to the person who entered it and figure out things like this.
5) When you want to filter events that are hidden "below the fold", it gets painful. Once you filter the event, it reloads the Local page and hides the extra items. So you have to go back down and expand it again. If you're going to load the events dynamically, I think you need to scrub the events dynamically as well. Otherwise it's not very feasible to clean up your events list unless the events are happening very soon.
Otherwise, looks great!
47tymfos
When I go to the page for "My favorite venues" the list is correct, but the map on the page that's captioned "my favorites" doesn't show my own favorites, and shows a bunch of places I never listed. What's that about?
48jbd1
>47 tymfos: - Heh.
Tim, do everyone's "favorites" maps only show your favorites? Looks like that might be the case :-)
Tim, do everyone's "favorites" maps only show your favorites? Looks like that might be the case :-)
49AnnaClaire
I'm not convinced we need a special way to hide a venue on the left. (#42)
I'm not convinced I need to see Brooklyn Comics & More on the left, or Galaxy Collectibles for that matter.
If I were in a particularly bad mood right now I might look up every yarn store in Portland and add them as venues as a "lark." If I had to, I could point out that many yarn stores do sell books. I got a copy of The Ultimate Sock Book* at just such a store, which is around the corner from my local IRT station.
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* And no, this is not a booklet, but a full-size book. Hardcover and everything. Anyone who says otherwise will be thwacked on the head with Victorian Lace Today and packed off to stay with Frances Lambert for a while, possibly by way of Weldon's.
51abbottthomas
Just to throw my hat in the ring... A factor in suburban living outside a major city is that one is interested in events near to home, say 5 miles max., and also in city centre events accessible by public transport.* For me to see events in central London I need a circle of 25 miles from my location which shows me events in a swathe of country that I would never think of visiting. I don't see any way of achieving what I'd like (also I don't expect TPTB to fix it!) In fact it's not too much of a problem as there aren't that many events listed in the Home Counties outside London.
*maybe thinking of public transport accessibility is not a US thing - I recently asked advice about bus travel in Los Angeles and was met with incredulity that I would even toy with the idea of using the bus!
*maybe thinking of public transport accessibility is not a US thing - I recently asked advice about bus travel in Los Angeles and was met with incredulity that I would even toy with the idea of using the bus!
52_Zoe_
Um, yeah. I recently did use public transit in Los Angeles and it took three hours to reach our destination.
But then we spent an hour sitting in a taxi trying to go 10 miles, so maybe you just can't win there. Other US cities are better.
But then we spent an hour sitting in a taxi trying to go 10 miles, so maybe you just can't win there. Other US cities are better.
53rsterling
Tons of people use the buses in LA; many are always packed. They are just more efficient for getting between some places than between others.
54lilithcat
> 51
Los Angeles is weird that way. In most cities, public transport accessibility is definitely a consideration.
Los Angeles is weird that way. In most cities, public transport accessibility is definitely a consideration.
55timspalding
I also have an event listed that is not from any of the venues I have chosen to see.
You can change what venue types are shown here:
I've also added a new "all | most" setting next to the list of venues. It overrides that, and also shows defunct venues.
You can change what venue types are shown here:
I've also added a new "all | most" setting next to the list of venues. It overrides that, and also shows defunct venues.
56timspalding
As I mentioned in the other thread, I would like to have one-click filtering back.
I've added it back as described just above. I feel, however, that having all the knobs of before—a selector for all five venue types, a selector for sorting—is overkill. Knobs add value but—bit by bit—they take it away too. Adding "all | most" is a concession there, but it's as far as I'm going to go.
On the Local Members part: who shows up there? Put another way, how do I know if I show up there for other people? Is there anything that would prevent one from showing up there? (I seem to remember 1-2 versions back there was a "private location" setting or something like that.)
There is. Click to edit your location and you'll see two fields, public and private.
I've added it back as described just above. I feel, however, that having all the knobs of before—a selector for all five venue types, a selector for sorting—is overkill. Knobs add value but—bit by bit—they take it away too. Adding "all | most" is a concession there, but it's as far as I'm going to go.
On the Local Members part: who shows up there? Put another way, how do I know if I show up there for other people? Is there anything that would prevent one from showing up there? (I seem to remember 1-2 versions back there was a "private location" setting or something like that.)
There is. Click to edit your location and you'll see two fields, public and private.
57timspalding
Tim, do everyone's "favorites" maps only show your favorites? Looks like that might be the case :-)
Fixed.
If I were in a particularly bad mood right now I might look up every yarn store in Portland and add them as venues as a "lark."
Go ahead. I wouldn't see them. Only bookstores are shown by default.
A factor in suburban living outside a major city is that one is interested in events near to home, say 5 miles max., and also in city centre events accessible by public transport.*
Yeah. There's no good way to do this, unfortunately. The answer has to be to draw a larger ring and figure you'll not be interested in everything. Newspapers listed everything in the area too.
Fixed.
If I were in a particularly bad mood right now I might look up every yarn store in Portland and add them as venues as a "lark."
Go ahead. I wouldn't see them. Only bookstores are shown by default.
A factor in suburban living outside a major city is that one is interested in events near to home, say 5 miles max., and also in city centre events accessible by public transport.*
Yeah. There's no good way to do this, unfortunately. The answer has to be to draw a larger ring and figure you'll not be interested in everything. Newspapers listed everything in the area too.
58jbd1
>46 brightcopy:
1) First off, should I have listed the venue as the Forum instead? They don't have an events RSS, so anyone looking for the forum might think it doesn't exist. Pity you can't give it alternate names. I put the Forum name in the description but none of the searches pay it any attention.
Seems okay the way you did it. Could also add the Forum name into the venue title, but I think the way you've got it is fine.
3) Why was this even put into Kieran's Irish Pub? The event originally said "added from Random House" and the original event url is this. There they have the proper venue name (well, Westminster Town Hall Forum), but they have the address of the pub. Who actually got this info in here. Was this one of your scrapers, Tim? Ultimately, it seems like they need to get the address of the Forum corrected in their database.
The event description was incorrectly linked to a venue based on the wrong address (probably what was shown on the link page was the event title and the address, so the linker searched the address and added the venue). Since it seems unlikely that Kieran's Irish Pub will be hosting relevant events in future, I've gone ahead and archived the venue.
2) Why is there no image beside the event? I added touchstones for both the author and book, and both have images on LT.
4) Events should show the user who originally added them. That'd make it easier to talk to the person who entered it and figure out things like this.
These two I'm not sure on. Events typically do show the username of the adder - this particular one isn't (has usernum of 0 in the db, Tim).
5) When you want to filter events that are hidden "below the fold", it gets painful. Once you filter the event, it reloads the Local page and hides the extra items. So you have to go back down and expand it again. If you're going to load the events dynamically, I think you need to scrub the events dynamically as well. Otherwise it's not very feasible to clean up your events list unless the events are happening very soon.
Agreed that this can get clunky.
1) First off, should I have listed the venue as the Forum instead? They don't have an events RSS, so anyone looking for the forum might think it doesn't exist. Pity you can't give it alternate names. I put the Forum name in the description but none of the searches pay it any attention.
Seems okay the way you did it. Could also add the Forum name into the venue title, but I think the way you've got it is fine.
3) Why was this even put into Kieran's Irish Pub? The event originally said "added from Random House" and the original event url is this. There they have the proper venue name (well, Westminster Town Hall Forum), but they have the address of the pub. Who actually got this info in here. Was this one of your scrapers, Tim? Ultimately, it seems like they need to get the address of the Forum corrected in their database.
The event description was incorrectly linked to a venue based on the wrong address (probably what was shown on the link page was the event title and the address, so the linker searched the address and added the venue). Since it seems unlikely that Kieran's Irish Pub will be hosting relevant events in future, I've gone ahead and archived the venue.
2) Why is there no image beside the event? I added touchstones for both the author and book, and both have images on LT.
4) Events should show the user who originally added them. That'd make it easier to talk to the person who entered it and figure out things like this.
These two I'm not sure on. Events typically do show the username of the adder - this particular one isn't (has usernum of 0 in the db, Tim).
5) When you want to filter events that are hidden "below the fold", it gets painful. Once you filter the event, it reloads the Local page and hides the extra items. So you have to go back down and expand it again. If you're going to load the events dynamically, I think you need to scrub the events dynamically as well. Otherwise it's not very feasible to clean up your events list unless the events are happening very soon.
Agreed that this can get clunky.
59lilithcat
> 58
Events typically do show the username of the adder
I noticed awhile back when editing an event that doing so changed the name of the adder to mine. Now editing the event seems to eliminate the adder's name, rather than changing it.
Events typically do show the username of the adder
I noticed awhile back when editing an event that doing so changed the name of the adder to mine. Now editing the event seems to eliminate the adder's name, rather than changing it.
61jbd1
59/60 - Moved this to the bug thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/149517#3897728
62eromsted
>59 lilithcat:,60
I can confirm that editing removes the adder's name. You are left with parenthesis with nothing inside.
Also, if I start on my local page end edit an event I am redirected to the event's venue page after saving. This is confusing and, I would say, wrong.
I can confirm that editing removes the adder's name. You are left with parenthesis with nothing inside.
Also, if I start on my local page end edit an event I am redirected to the event's venue page after saving. This is confusing and, I would say, wrong.
64andyl
#57
On the locality of big rings if you are suburban or outside a city problem.
Would it be possible to define subsidiary areas. So you would have your 5 mile ring around your home town but also have a subsidiary ring of 2 mi around the centre of nearby big city with good transport links?
I appreciate that would be extra development if possible but I might solve the problem for some people.
On the locality of big rings if you are suburban or outside a city problem.
Would it be possible to define subsidiary areas. So you would have your 5 mile ring around your home town but also have a subsidiary ring of 2 mi around the centre of nearby big city with good transport links?
I appreciate that would be extra development if possible but I might solve the problem for some people.
65bestem
Would it be possible to define subsidiary areas. So you would have your 5 mile ring around your home town but also have a subsidiary ring of 2 mi around the centre of nearby big city with good transport links?
That would actually be nice. I live in a college area with few bookstores, and there aren't many bookish events near me. At this point I'm tempted to change my local location to San Diego where my dad and siblings live, even though it's a 10 hour drive away, because I can send my brother or sister to author signings and such.
That would actually be nice. I live in a college area with few bookstores, and there aren't many bookish events near me. At this point I'm tempted to change my local location to San Diego where my dad and siblings live, even though it's a 10 hour drive away, because I can send my brother or sister to author signings and such.
66GwenH
On the plus side - near the top of my local venue list is a place I'd never heard of but sounds interesting.
On the other side -
- I see markers on the map for every area except my local area, although the local venue items are in the map area displayed.
- Not sure why a pharmacy is on the list, and near the top of my list annoyingly enough. I didn't see any place to flag it as "not a venue".
On the other side -
- I see markers on the map for every area except my local area, although the local venue items are in the map area displayed.
- Not sure why a pharmacy is on the list, and near the top of my list annoyingly enough. I didn't see any place to flag it as "not a venue".
67timspalding
One possibility is to have an option to mix local and favorites. I'm not very into having two locations.
>66 GwenH:
Looking.
>66 GwenH:
Looking.
68timspalding
- I see markers on the map for every area except my local area, although the local venue items are in the map area displayed.
Can you explain this more specifically. I don't see what you're talking about.
- Not sure why a pharmacy is on the list, and near the top of my list annoyingly enough. I didn't see any place to flag it as "not a venue"
They were (and are) in IndieBound—who knows why. I changed them to an "other" place and, because they closed, I marked them as defunct.
Can you explain this more specifically. I don't see what you're talking about.
- Not sure why a pharmacy is on the list, and near the top of my list annoyingly enough. I didn't see any place to flag it as "not a venue"
They were (and are) in IndieBound—who knows why. I changed them to an "other" place and, because they closed, I marked them as defunct.
69GwenH
- I see markers on the map for every area except my local area, although the local venue items are in the map area displayed.
Can you explain this more specifically. I don't see what you're talking about.
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I see what happened. I went to local and the markers showed. I then clicked on a local venue to view information. I then hit back to go back to the local page and all looked the same except the markers had all disappeared from the map. When I hit refresh they do come back again. I'm using Chrome and WinXP.
Can you explain this more specifically. I don't see what you're talking about.
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I see what happened. I went to local and the markers showed. I then clicked on a local venue to view information. I then hit back to go back to the local page and all looked the same except the markers had all disappeared from the map. When I hit refresh they do come back again. I'm using Chrome and WinXP.
70rsterling
I've added it back as described just above. I feel, however, that having all the knobs of before—a selector for all five venue types, a selector for sorting—is overkill. Knobs add value but—bit by bit—they take it away too. Adding "all | most" is a concession there, but it's as far as I'm going to go.
Meh. All/most is pretty meaningless to me. What I want to be able to do is narrow down to, say, libraries only -- or bookstores only -- without having to reset my overall settings each time. All/most doesn't help with that at all.
Think about it: say you're checking out (searching for) an area other than your own -- say you live in Boston but want to see what public libraries are near a hotel where you'll be staying in New York -- you'd have to reset your settings in order to do that, and then go back and reset them when you wanted to go back to your usual settings for Boston. That's just not very intuitive or convenient from a user's point of view. Maybe if there were some other way to easily filter, like a drop down search box, or the ability to narrow searches by type of venue, but the current redesign has just made Local less useful for doing something it used to do well (finding specific types of venues in a specific place). 1 click for a useful function is better than 3+clicks.
Meh. All/most is pretty meaningless to me. What I want to be able to do is narrow down to, say, libraries only -- or bookstores only -- without having to reset my overall settings each time. All/most doesn't help with that at all.
Think about it: say you're checking out (searching for) an area other than your own -- say you live in Boston but want to see what public libraries are near a hotel where you'll be staying in New York -- you'd have to reset your settings in order to do that, and then go back and reset them when you wanted to go back to your usual settings for Boston. That's just not very intuitive or convenient from a user's point of view. Maybe if there were some other way to easily filter, like a drop down search box, or the ability to narrow searches by type of venue, but the current redesign has just made Local less useful for doing something it used to do well (finding specific types of venues in a specific place). 1 click for a useful function is better than 3+clicks.
71rsterling
Am I wrong in thinking that it used to be possible to search for a location (say, Portland, ME) and get a map of that location, in effect, a Local page for that location -- without changing *my* Local location? Right now if I search for a location, I just get a list of venues with that location in the address, but no map.
72Keeline
OK. Inspired by this thread, I am looking at Local again. I used 92115 as my starting point.
I see stores listed as active which are long ago closed. I marked one as such but wonder if the data could be improved by urging users to update the areas they know about or are willing to telephone with long distance included in most cell phone plans?
Visiting available bookstores "on the road" is very important to me. I like to know what is nearby and the "Readar" app has some possibilities in this area.
However, I am mainly interested in used bookstores (open shops vs. by appointment). It seems to me that these should be flagged differently.
Also, if I am just looking for one kind of venue, I'd like to be able to see just those (especially on a phone browser). Perhaps this is possible now and I haven't spotted it yet.
I know that there has been discussion of venues/events within a radius that can be changed. However, another useful filter is the number of items to return at a time. Perhaps if one is using a phone 10 or 20 items is good while a desktop with a broadband connection and a large screen might work well with 100 or 200.
If one flags a venue as a "favorite" with a star, it would be nice to see just the events related to those with a filter.
The events for Mysterious Galaxy have both venues (San Diego and Redondo Beach) as if they are the San Diego location. I don't know what this does for people looking in Redondo Beach. Do they see any? It would be good if the system was smart enough to divide these.
A good up-to-date list of used bookstores would be the most valuable to me.
James
I see stores listed as active which are long ago closed. I marked one as such but wonder if the data could be improved by urging users to update the areas they know about or are willing to telephone with long distance included in most cell phone plans?
Visiting available bookstores "on the road" is very important to me. I like to know what is nearby and the "Readar" app has some possibilities in this area.
However, I am mainly interested in used bookstores (open shops vs. by appointment). It seems to me that these should be flagged differently.
Also, if I am just looking for one kind of venue, I'd like to be able to see just those (especially on a phone browser). Perhaps this is possible now and I haven't spotted it yet.
I know that there has been discussion of venues/events within a radius that can be changed. However, another useful filter is the number of items to return at a time. Perhaps if one is using a phone 10 or 20 items is good while a desktop with a broadband connection and a large screen might work well with 100 or 200.
If one flags a venue as a "favorite" with a star, it would be nice to see just the events related to those with a filter.
The events for Mysterious Galaxy have both venues (San Diego and Redondo Beach) as if they are the San Diego location. I don't know what this does for people looking in Redondo Beach. Do they see any? It would be good if the system was smart enough to divide these.
A good up-to-date list of used bookstores would be the most valuable to me.
James
73GwenH
Edit -Never mind...just finished and I'm not listed as a local member - I would have assumed I'd be included, even if I'm the one looking at the listing but it would seem not.
Earlier in this thread it was mentioned that members is ordered by activity. Should I be seeing myself as a member (location is same both public and private). The listing is down to people with 0 books and with no indication of any activity.
Earlier in this thread it was mentioned that members is ordered by activity. Should I be seeing myself as a member (location is same both public and private). The listing is down to people with 0 books and with no indication of any activity.
74rsterling
Thinking about the purpose of this redesign: what's local for? How do people use it?
One of the ways I did use Local -- and that I'd like to continue using it -- is something like what the Readar app seems to do: find book-related venues, especially bookstores and libraries, and events near a particular location.
Sometimes that will be where I live, or it might be in another city where I work, or it might be in a city where I'm traveling. So ease of switching between locations is important. Judging from the screenshots of Readar, the app also lets you at least sort (does it filter as well?) by venue type, and it has some nice color-coding to distinguish venue types (something that might be useful on the Local page, not just on the map, but in the sometimes long list of venues).
Unfortunately I've got an Android phone, so no Readar for me, but it seems like people might want to use the main Local website in much the same way (among other uses). So my earlier complaints about the inconvenience of filtering have to do with this use, as does my question about how to find the map for another location without changing my own Local location.
The other really useful thing about Local is, of course, that it consolidates so much info about bookish events. I do really like the new date icons and the emphasis on book covers. Again, here, ease of switching between locations (cites, towns) or finding another city's listings without changing one's own location would be nice.
One of the ways I did use Local -- and that I'd like to continue using it -- is something like what the Readar app seems to do: find book-related venues, especially bookstores and libraries, and events near a particular location.
Sometimes that will be where I live, or it might be in another city where I work, or it might be in a city where I'm traveling. So ease of switching between locations is important. Judging from the screenshots of Readar, the app also lets you at least sort (does it filter as well?) by venue type, and it has some nice color-coding to distinguish venue types (something that might be useful on the Local page, not just on the map, but in the sometimes long list of venues).
Unfortunately I've got an Android phone, so no Readar for me, but it seems like people might want to use the main Local website in much the same way (among other uses). So my earlier complaints about the inconvenience of filtering have to do with this use, as does my question about how to find the map for another location without changing my own Local location.
The other really useful thing about Local is, of course, that it consolidates so much info about bookish events. I do really like the new date icons and the emphasis on book covers. Again, here, ease of switching between locations (cites, towns) or finding another city's listings without changing one's own location would be nice.
75rsterling
72, Keeline: If one flags a venue as a "favorite" with a star, it would be nice to see just the events related to those with a filter.
Click on the "Your Favorites" link at the top. That'll give you list of your favorites and the events at your favorites. However, if like me you've got favorites in various cities and countries, the events at my favorites list might not be that useful (though interesting). I don't think there's a way to see *just* favorites AND in a particular location.
Click on the "Your Favorites" link at the top. That'll give you list of your favorites and the events at your favorites. However, if like me you've got favorites in various cities and countries, the events at my favorites list might not be that useful (though interesting). I don't think there's a way to see *just* favorites AND in a particular location.
76rsterling
On the Local Members page: I find it visually and informationally a bit overwhelming. I realize it's sorted to emphasize people with a lot of books and/or with whom I share a lot of books. It would be nice, though, to be able to resort in some other way, by distance and/or other ways.
What's the distance filter here? I'm seeing people in Wisconsin, which isn't really local to Connecticut.
What's the distance filter here? I'm seeing people in Wisconsin, which isn't really local to Connecticut.
77rsterling
Me: On the Local Members part: who shows up there? Put another way, how do I know if I show up there for other people? Is there anything that would prevent one from showing up there? (I seem to remember 1-2 versions back there was a "private location" setting or something like that.)
Tim: There is. Click to edit your location and you'll see two fields, public and private.
Ok. It might be useful to explain that the profile location does that (to explain that on both pages where you can set profile location - here and on the "edit profile" page). In other words, right now it just looks like you're deciding what location to write on your profile, but it isn't obvious that that location *does* anything else beyond the profile, like put you in a list of Local Members.
For example:
Public location
Shown on your profile page and in Local Members.
Tim: There is. Click to edit your location and you'll see two fields, public and private.
Ok. It might be useful to explain that the profile location does that (to explain that on both pages where you can set profile location - here and on the "edit profile" page). In other words, right now it just looks like you're deciding what location to write on your profile, but it isn't obvious that that location *does* anything else beyond the profile, like put you in a list of Local Members.
For example:
Public location
Shown on your profile page and in Local Members.
78Keeline
When playing with Readar, I noticed some oddities. On the LT site I had marked certain local used bookstores (Adams Avenue Books, Maxwell's House of Books) as favorites and they are starred. The app though does not seem to be aware of this (perhaps I'm not logged in) and none were starred.
Once I did mark some in the Readar app for iPhone, I tried to click on the "Favorites" button at the bottom. I got a list of my favorites -- IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. This is not very helpful "on the road." I'd also like to see them on a map with my current position.
Here, too, the distinction between a new book store and a used book store is important (as well as the ability to see just one type). If this kind of data could be updated on the LT site, the app could be a valuable road warrior tool.
James
Once I did mark some in the Readar app for iPhone, I tried to click on the "Favorites" button at the bottom. I got a list of my favorites -- IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. This is not very helpful "on the road." I'd also like to see them on a map with my current position.
Here, too, the distinction between a new book store and a used book store is important (as well as the ability to see just one type). If this kind of data could be updated on the LT site, the app could be a valuable road warrior tool.
James
79NorthernStar
I haven't used local for quite a while, so I was interested to see what the changes were. Since I live in a small town, which is not close to any others, it really does nothing for me now. I have the opposite problem to some of the above comments - I can't set the distance far enough to show anything of interest. The next closest town is approximately 400 km away, and the nearest big city is about 1000 km. I can no longer set a distance further than 120 km (or 120 miles). I used to be able to set 1000 km, but whether in miles or km it now goes to 120 maximum.
Not a big deal, as I said I rarely use it, but I used to be able to easily check what bookish events were happening within a day's radius of here.
I don't think anyone but myself has ever added venues or events in this area.
Not a big deal, as I said I rarely use it, but I used to be able to easily check what bookish events were happening within a day's radius of here.
I don't think anyone but myself has ever added venues or events in this area.
80timspalding
I see what happened. I went to local and the markers showed. I then clicked on a local venue to view information. I then hit back to go back to the local page and all looked the same except the markers had all disappeared from the map. When I hit refresh they do come back again. I'm using Chrome and WinXP.
Oh, you used the back button? I'm not sure what I can do about that. Hmm.
Am I wrong in thinking that it used to be possible to search for a location (say, Portland, ME) and get a map of that location, in effect, a Local page for that location -- without changing *my* Local location? Right now if I search for a location, I just get a list of venues with that location in the address, but no map.
Yeah, I had a reason. But I'm agreeing with you. It's that way now—searching is the same as clicking a location link now. It shows you the location, not a search.
Earlier in this thread it was mentioned that members is ordered by activity. Should I be seeing myself as a member (location is same both public and private). The listing is down to people with 0 books and with no indication of any activity.
No, you never see yourself.
What's the distance filter here? I'm seeing people in Wisconsin, which isn't really local to Connecticut.
Don't panic me! Everyone else in your list is less than 60 miles from you. The Wisconsin entry is because Google screwed up and thinks "Western Wisconsin" is near you. I'm looking at why.
The next closest town is approximately 400 km away, and the nearest big city is about 1000 km. I can no longer set a distance further than 120 km (or 120 miles). I used to be able to set 1000 km, but whether in miles or km it now goes to 120 maximum.
I made 1,000 the max again. Thanks.
When playing with Readar, I noticed some oddities. On the LT site I had marked certain local used bookstores (Adams Avenue Books, Maxwell's House of Books) as favorites and they are starred. The app though does not seem to be aware of this (perhaps I'm not logged in) and none were starred.
The app is separate from LT—there's no logging in.
Here, too, the distinction between a new book store and a used book store is important (as well as the ability to see just one type). If this kind of data could be updated on the LT site, the app could be a valuable road warrior tool.
I don't see us spending a lot of time updating the app, which does the main things. It was a contract job. We don't really have the right skillset to update it easily.
Oh, you used the back button? I'm not sure what I can do about that. Hmm.
Am I wrong in thinking that it used to be possible to search for a location (say, Portland, ME) and get a map of that location, in effect, a Local page for that location -- without changing *my* Local location? Right now if I search for a location, I just get a list of venues with that location in the address, but no map.
Yeah, I had a reason. But I'm agreeing with you. It's that way now—searching is the same as clicking a location link now. It shows you the location, not a search.
Earlier in this thread it was mentioned that members is ordered by activity. Should I be seeing myself as a member (location is same both public and private). The listing is down to people with 0 books and with no indication of any activity.
No, you never see yourself.
What's the distance filter here? I'm seeing people in Wisconsin, which isn't really local to Connecticut.
Don't panic me! Everyone else in your list is less than 60 miles from you. The Wisconsin entry is because Google screwed up and thinks "Western Wisconsin" is near you. I'm looking at why.
The next closest town is approximately 400 km away, and the nearest big city is about 1000 km. I can no longer set a distance further than 120 km (or 120 miles). I used to be able to set 1000 km, but whether in miles or km it now goes to 120 maximum.
I made 1,000 the max again. Thanks.
When playing with Readar, I noticed some oddities. On the LT site I had marked certain local used bookstores (Adams Avenue Books, Maxwell's House of Books) as favorites and they are starred. The app though does not seem to be aware of this (perhaps I'm not logged in) and none were starred.
The app is separate from LT—there's no logging in.
Here, too, the distinction between a new book store and a used book store is important (as well as the ability to see just one type). If this kind of data could be updated on the LT site, the app could be a valuable road warrior tool.
I don't see us spending a lot of time updating the app, which does the main things. It was a contract job. We don't really have the right skillset to update it easily.
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84timspalding
I see stores listed as active which are long ago closed. I marked one as such but wonder if the data could be improved by urging users to update the areas they know about or are willing to telephone with long distance included in most cell phone plans?
I think people will close them, if we can make Local useful. There have been a lot of closings recently, unfortunately.
If one flags a venue as a "favorite" with a star, it would be nice to see just the events related to those with a filter.
Click the "Your favorites" section at the top—it shows all your favorite venues and the events going on at them.
Think about it: say you're checking out (searching for) an area other than your own -- say you live in Boston but want to see what public libraries are near a hotel where you'll be staying in New York -- you'd have to reset your settings in order to do that, and then go back and reset them when you wanted to go back to your usual settings for Boston. That's just not very intuitive or convenient from a user's point of view. Maybe if there were some other way to easily filter, like a drop down search box, or the ability to narrow searches by type of venue, but the current redesign has just made Local less useful for doing something it used to do well (finding specific types of venues in a specific place). 1 click for a useful function is better than 3+clicks.
I see the weight of your argument, I just don't want another damn chrome widgety thing. It would push down the venue list so it wasn't parallel to the event list, etc. So, this is as far as I'm willing to go—putting the edit up there, closer.
I think people will close them, if we can make Local useful. There have been a lot of closings recently, unfortunately.
If one flags a venue as a "favorite" with a star, it would be nice to see just the events related to those with a filter.
Click the "Your favorites" section at the top—it shows all your favorite venues and the events going on at them.
Think about it: say you're checking out (searching for) an area other than your own -- say you live in Boston but want to see what public libraries are near a hotel where you'll be staying in New York -- you'd have to reset your settings in order to do that, and then go back and reset them when you wanted to go back to your usual settings for Boston. That's just not very intuitive or convenient from a user's point of view. Maybe if there were some other way to easily filter, like a drop down search box, or the ability to narrow searches by type of venue, but the current redesign has just made Local less useful for doing something it used to do well (finding specific types of venues in a specific place). 1 click for a useful function is better than 3+clicks.
I see the weight of your argument, I just don't want another damn chrome widgety thing. It would push down the venue list so it wasn't parallel to the event list, etc. So, this is as far as I'm willing to go—putting the edit up there, closer.
85_Zoe_
Thanks for changing it back to showing the map when we search on a different city.
This means it actually is easy again to find, say, a library near your hotel.
I'd still like a way to sort the venues by how many people have favourited them, though. I'll go to the ones closest to my hotel, yes, but I also want to know which are the best bookstores in the city even if they're half an hour away.
This means it actually is easy again to find, say, a library near your hotel.
I'd still like a way to sort the venues by how many people have favourited them, though. I'll go to the ones closest to my hotel, yes, but I also want to know which are the best bookstores in the city even if they're half an hour away.
86Diane-bpcb
Looks interesting, but not needed for my purposes.
87Caesia
84 Tim - I am delighted that you popped the edit button into local venues. Thank you.
I have used Local to identify bookshops when travelling (or making travel plans) - and have enjoyed being able to prioritise which bookshops are really worth a visit according to the expert advice of other LTers.
I have been changing my settings to achieve this since Local was updated - the update happened in the middle of travel plans being made. Whilst it was doable, it is now easier to list just bookshops...
I have used Local to identify bookshops when travelling (or making travel plans) - and have enjoyed being able to prioritise which bookshops are really worth a visit according to the expert advice of other LTers.
I have been changing my settings to achieve this since Local was updated - the update happened in the middle of travel plans being made. Whilst it was doable, it is now easier to list just bookshops...
88NorthernStar
80 - Thanks for increasing the max distance, it works great!
89gamoia
I'm missing the Event webpage URL on the Local page view. It's useful to confirm data from the original source. Would it be possible to get it back?
90timspalding
See http://www.librarything.com/topic/150279 . We've added tens of thousands of library events.
91GwenH
Is there a way to organize the events list so that the nearby events show up first in your locals list? I have a list of almost 300 events and most of them would be rather long drives to get to.
92Cynfelyn
Is there a way to distinguish an exhibition, with a start date and an end date, from a one-off event? I've been listing them under their closing date, so one current exhibition is listed under "Saturday, May 18 at unknown time", but it's hardly elegant. Thanks.
93rsterling
Is there any way we could get anonymous adding of events? It was slightly annoying when LT started putting usernames at the bottom of events added, but now that I just moved to a small town, it's really putting me off adding more events -- which is a shame, because most of the events in my new town don't seem to be in Local.
