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Norman L. Geisler (1932–2019)

Author of I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist

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Norman Geisler was born on July 21, 1932, in Warren, Mich. He is the author of Christian texts that promote the Bible and morality and serve to provide sound advice and reasoning for the Christian faith. A fervent believer in the inerrancy of the Bible, his books When Skeptics Ask and When Critics show more Ask provide answers to those who question discrepancies in the Bible or challenge its authority. In Legislating Morality, he discusses why laws should be passed and enforced to create a moral, Christian society. Geisler is a frequent speaker and debater, providing learned answers about religion and society. He was educated at Wheaton College, the Detroit Bible College, and Loyola University. He is currently the Dean of the Southern Evangelical Seminary in Charlotte, North Carolina. (Bowker Author Biography) show less
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Works by Norman L. Geisler

I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist (2004) 1,762 copies, 13 reviews
Christian Apologetics (1976) 1,090 copies, 5 reviews
A General Introduction to the Bible (1968) 923 copies, 5 reviews
Inerrancy (1980) — Editor — 869 copies, 2 reviews
Christian Ethics: Options and Issues (1989) 814 copies, 4 reviews
A Popular Survey of the Old Testament (1977) 763 copies, 1 review
From God To Us: How We Got Our Bible (1974) 442 copies, 5 reviews
Roman Catholics and Evangelicals: Agreements and Differences (1995) — Author — 324 copies, 1 review
Systematic Theology, Vol. 2: God; Creation (2003) 302 copies, 1 review
Systematic Theology, Vol. 3: Sin; Salvation (2004) 273 copies, 1 review
Systematic Theology: In One Volume (2005) 199 copies, 1 review
Love is Always Right (1996) 160 copies, 1 review
The Roots of Evil (1978) 154 copies
Philosophy of Religion (1981) 152 copies
The Battle for the Resurrection (1989) 151 copies, 1 review
Christ: The key to interpreting the Bible (1975) 59 copies, 1 review
THE CHRISTIAN ETHIC OF LOVE (1973) 42 copies, 1 review
The Reincarnation Sensation (1986) 41 copies
What Augustine Says (1982) 21 copies
Por Amor A Deus (2009) 7 copies
Colossians 2 copies
Det ondas problem (1989) 1 copy
Prolegomena 1 copy

Associated Works

The Genesis Debate: Three Views on the Days of Creation (2001) — Foreword — 346 copies, 1 review
The Best in Theology, Vol. 1 (1987) — Contributor — 125 copies

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I have a lot of respect for Norm Geisler. His work in other areas has been first rate. Understanding that, I am still in shock that he wrote this book. It is so misleading, deceptive, and shockingly bad that I cannot image a scholar of his caliber would put his name to this.

It's not that I disagree with his views. I do, but that's not the issue. The issue is that he doesn't seem to understand the issues at all. He doesn't even understand the definitions of the terms. He calls himself a show more moderate Calvinist when he rejects everything Calvin says. In truth, his views line up almost exactly with Arminianism. What he calls "extreme Calvinism" is really a misunderstanding of historic Calvinism. What he calls "extreme Arminianism" is really Open Theism.

A few examples of his mistakes:

He continually says that the doctrine of Irresistible Grace means that God is forcing people unwillingly to become Christians. I don't know of any Calvinist who believes this. We believe that God will regenerate the heart so that person thirsts and rejoices in Christ. It is not coercion! No Calvinist thinks so. It's almost like he made up the definition and then tore it down to prove how terrible Calvinists are. It's dishonest and childish.

When he quotes Calvinists, he seems to think that we mean "salvation" when we say "regeneration," which causes him to point out that salvation comes because of faith, not before. Which we agree, but it is clear that he doesn't understand the concept of regeneration at all!

In his section on evangelism, he quotes only hyper-Calvinist to prove that Calvinism is bad for evangelism. Then he lifts up William Carey as his champion for evangelism, which caused me to scratch my head, because Carey was a Calvinist!

To dis prove that faith is a gift from God, he misleadingly points to the Greek of Ephesians 2:8 ("For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, "), saying that "faith" is a feminine noun, and "this" a neuter pronoun, so "this" cannot be referring to "faith." It must refer to "grace." He fails to point out that grace is feminine too -- the "this" is referring to both. Then he quotes Calvin, saying that Calvin did not believe the "this" referred to faith either. Only he cuts up Calvin's statements so they say something he didn't mean. Calvin was making the same point I did -- that "this" refers to both faith and grace.

I could go on, but it may be more worthwhile for readers to check out James White's response to this book, which is called The Potter's Freedom.

I do not think this book should be avoided. Frankly, if people read this critically, it would probably turn them into Calvinists. But do read it critically. Do not take what Geisler says for granted. Look up the quotes.

Above all else, read Geisler's other works. He is a good scholar and a Christian brother. He's just holding tradition higher than the Bible in this case. By the Blood of Christ, he will be forgiven this too, just as I will be forgiven, in repentance and faith, for my theological mistakes.
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Due to the fact that people I know and respect have spoken highly of Norman Geisler's book, Chosen But Free, and people I know and respect have also spoken quite critically of this book, I decided to grab the Kindle version and give it a read. There is praise to be offered and well-deserved criticism to be voiced as well.

Chapter 1 is a great introduction to the topic of God's sovereignty. Geisler spends an extended amount of time affirming God as sovereign over all, even the choices of men. show more On the surface and divorced from the rest of the text, chapter 1 is a tremendous defense of God being God over all, even the hearts of men. Geisler spends the rest of the book, however, undermining the firm foundation that Scripture laid for him in the first few pages.


Geisler's entire thesis centers around his argument that love can only be love if it is totally free (that is, free of any influence whether external or internal). Coupled with that is the strong insinuation that the moral free choice is either the totality or the majority of what it means to be created in God's image. Geisler never offers any consistent Scriptural basis for his position. As far as I can see, He roots this assumption in his own opinion and the fact that his entire soteriological framework would come crashing down upon itself if this were not the case.

One of the great flaws of this text is the reduction of Calvinism (Reformed Theology) to TULIP. Reformed Theology is not TULIP. Reformed Theology, Calvinism, is a garden filled with beautiful theological flowers, including a TULIP. Due to the subject Geisler undertakes and the fact that so many have perpetuated this reductionist attitude from within the ranks of professing Calvinists, I can understand why Geisler sees it this way and portrays it as such. Yet, since so much of Reformed Soteriology(TULIP) is based in the greater framework of Reformed/Covenant Theology, it would be quite beneficial to understand Reformed Soteriology within this broader context.

Beyond that, Geisler consistently misrepresents the points of TULIP, proceeding then to claim that any who would offer correction are “embarrassed” by their belief in that specific point. Going further, Geisler even accuses the dissenter of dishonesty, saying that he tries to hide what his doctrine actually teaches. This begins a hundreds of pages of rhetoric based on Geisler's army of straw men. Geisler does a brilliant job, throughout the text, of dismantling the “Extreme Calvinism” that he presents. The main problem, however, remains that the view he presents is not, for the most part, the consensus view of those that he labels with the position.

One of the flaws of Geisler's system is seen when Geisler posits his understanding of the P of TULIP, perseverance of the saints. Geisler addresses the fact that once someone is a born again believer then they cannot choose to reject God, ultimately falling away from his/her salvation. Yet, somehow Geisler says they are still free in relation to his/her salvation. His reasoning is simple although not stated. If he were to admit that this lack of viable choice has limited their free will, thus making their love of God after conversion null due to the lack of libertarian freedom, then his entire premise falls. Rather than address this, Geisler chooses to make a couple of points.

First, Geisler points out that this reasoning(that is, the idea that to be free you have to have the option to make a choice without any external or internal constraints or influence) “is speculative and should be treated as such”, because it is “not biblically based”. This seems like an odd point to make, a point with which I agree, because it is the basis for his entire premise. I am glad he admits it is not biblically based, I just wish he would have felt free not to propagate such an unbiblical and speculative position in the first place.

He follows with the argument that some decisions are once for all, but his argument is really a red herring because the point is about continuing freedom. If Adam's decision to rebel did not “erase the image of God”(that is, remove libertarian freedom) in himself or his progeny, then why would a decision to follow Christ in faith “erase the image of God”(that is, remove libertarian freedom).

Finally, he addresses the “extreme Arminian”(usually when Geisler attaches the word “extreme” to something we can feel free to replace it with “historical” or “classical” or “orthodox”, because this is how he uses the word. However, he chooses to limit the term “extreme” in regards to arminianism to reference open theists, “neotheists”) He urges them to consider the logical outcome of this line of thought. If we have to have the option to reject God after salvation to be free, then we could not be “free” in heaven because no orthodox believer holds to the view that you can reject salvation in the eternal state. But since Geisler equates “image of God” with libertarian freedom, then we have to be free in this sense, even in heaven...and even when we are completely incapable of exercising this freedom.

This would be a good point for Geisler to acknowledge and submit to the view of creaturely freedom espoused by Johnathan Edwards(a view repeatedly mocked and misrepresented by Geisler in the book) because it would be helpful to see why we are free. Edwards argues that freedom is the ability to do what we want, to follow our desires. It is not a libertarian/tabula rasa freedom that pretends like there are no influences that affect, motivate or even compel our decisions. Rather, we freely do what we want to do. Sinners freely sin because, by nature, they are sinners. God even limits His own freedom in this sense, consistently in Scripture indicating that He will never do anything contrary to His nature. Indeed, that He cannot(that is, He is not free to) do anything that is contrary to His nature, His ultimate desires. This is why, for us to believe in God, we must be gifted a new nature. Regeneration must precede faith, because left in our sin nature we will never choose God.

Geisler also attacks the reformed presentation of God as unloving for a number of reasons. Geisler argues that for God to be all-loving, He must make a way and offer of salvation unto all, without violating their libertarian free will. Geisler says “any diminution of God's love(see offer of salvation without violation of free will) will sooner or later eat away at one's confidence in God's benevolence.” Since “extreme Calvinists” argue from Scripture that God made atonement for the elect, loving the elect with a special love then God is not all-loving. Beyond that, He is not truly loving even to the elect because in raising them with an irresistible (effectual) grace from spiritual sickness(death), he violated their free (temporal and sin-bound) will.

I would pose a couple of questions. Who would argue that it would be unloving for a father to pull a toddler out of the way of a speeding car simply because it was done against their immediate (see momentary, ignorant, deadly desires) will and that any affection shown after would be coerced and not true appreciation and love? This Father's love was irresistible, because if He allowed ultimate resistance, the child he loved would have perished. Our court system recognizes that for a parent to not offer irresistible love in this manner is criminal, why should the God of the universe be held to a lower standard than any citizen of this country?

My second question would be, if God does not offer the post-fall Satan a chance at redemption, then is He unloving? At the very least we should be able to agree that God does not love Satan, but Geisler argues that any diminution of God's love, which has to be expressed as an offer of salvation without the violation of free will, undermines our “trust in the love of God”. To prove this point Geisler even seems to indicate in his footnote reference of Charles Darwin and Bertrand Russel that for us to believe in a God who damns sinners eternally is undermining the love of God. (See footnote 168 and please correct me if I have misread this.)

From the outset of Chosen but Free, Norman Geisler sets off on a polemical cruise of invective, caricature, and straw men, attacking and misrepresenting not only “Extreme Calvinism”(anyone who affirms 5 points of Reformed Soteriology) but traditional Arminianism and Open Theism. Geisler makes such a habit in the book of misrepresenting the opposing view and then dismantling this creation he has ascribed to his opponents that it is difficult to believe it is all without intent. The tone throughout the book was not one of genuine discourse in a spirit of communal edification, but rather that of someone who cherishes a view of freedom beyond the Scriptures, the community of faith and even God Himself. This book could have been good, but it crumbled under the weight of its flawed premise and the presuppositions of its author. For a good understanding of the Calvinism debate, see For Calvinism(Horton) and Against Calvinism(Olson). For a one-stop source of differing understandings of the doctrine of election, see Perspective on Election edited by Chad Brand. For an extended critique of Chosen But Free, see The Potter's Freedom by James White.
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I enjoyed this one a lot. The authors’ argument for the existence of God can basically be condensed to two parts:

1. Logic dictates that we live in a theistic universe—we are created and watched over by an all-powerful being who lives outside of space and time.

2. The Bible serves as convincing evidence that this being is the God of Christianity.

I hardly agreed with all of the building blocks in the argument, yet I found this to be maybe the best apologetics book I’ve read. The show more presentation is very organized and steps logically from point to point. It’s clear the authors have had a great deal of experience in debate, and this book has become somewhat of a flagship for amateur apologists. While the title lends itself to easy derision by opponents, it’s a lot better argued than I anticipated.

There is a drawback to building argument upon argument, of course: If perchance you have a weak foundation, the whole shebang comes tumbling down. For example, the authors’ proof for reliable eyewitness testimony depends strongly upon traditional conservative authorship of the Bible; this depends strongly upon early dating of the synoptic gospels; early dating of these gospels depends strongly upon dating the book of acts to the 7th decade (since Luke precedes Acts, and Mark precedes Luke); and early dating of Acts depends upon the assumption that, had it been written later, the author surely would have discussed the death of Paul and the destruction of the Temple. Thus, a great deal rides on an argument from silence.

The arguments are engaging and thought-provoking, though not without flaws, and will in many instances require research and hard analysis to see the flaws. Thus, it was a lot of fun to read and took me quite a while. Some arguments are subjective in nature, and some are (hooray!) objective fact. In particular, I devoured two long lists in the book: one of 84 verifiable historical references in the book of Acts, and one of 59 attestations to the historical authenticity of John.

The result is a five-star review for interesting writing and for making me think, even when I disagree. Consider this the official end of the book review—what follows are a few examples where critical thinking prevents my full agreement with the authors. :)

* The book argues for the existence of a God-given Moral Law, written on the hearts of all people. I’ve never grasped how this argument could support Christianity. Consider the extreme disagreement between Christians today over whether or not gays should be allowed to share in a loving relationship. Or the disagreement not long ago over whether slavery was moral. If such a moral law exists, Christianity may be the religion having the hardest time figuring out what it is.

* The book argues that the New Testament was written before 70 A.D. because it makes no point of telling the story of the destruction of Jerusalem. This is not quite true; the Gospels do mention how the Christians fled Jerusalem in the war, though they do so from a pre-war perspective. But why do no other Bible books mention so earth-shattering an event? Probably because it WAS so earth-shattering! Remember, these authors were not writing to preserve history; they were writing to share the message of a new beginning with their comrades. What Christian in the first century, having lived through the war, needs a reminder that the old world had passed away, and a new world begun?

* The book repeatedly insists that there is no evidence whatsoever for macroevolution. But it doesn’t matter how often you repeat this mantra, it is a lie. There exists plenty of evidence for macroevolution, and though there are a limited number of fossil records, the number we have is quite consistent with current theories of how species evolved. I’ve written about this many times, so I won’t repeat myself here, except to say I can’t figure out why so many Christian apologists are hung up on evolution.
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This book absolutely changed my life forever. I spent my college years struggling with the Christian faith that I had grown up with and wondering what concrete reasons there were that I should continue to believe it, but not actually doing anything to find the answers. I guess the right time came for me, and after reading this and a couple of other apologetic works, I now know exactly why it makes sense to believe, which as a pretty logical person, is exactly what I needed. I would recommend show more this book to anybody, especially people who are jaded by the whole "organized religion" thing like I was. The problem isn't the religion, it's the crazy things some people do because of it. show less

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