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1timspalding
I've added the ability to see and edit Common Knowledge edits across languages.
You can check it out on Harry Potter: http://www.librarything.com/work/5403381
Or see the screenshot:

Clicking on "Catalan" brings up the Catalan CK edits.

Needless to say, if you're in the Catalan site, you get the Catalan ones by default, and click to see the English ones.
Click "X more" to edit CK for all the other LibraryThing languages.
Where this is going: This is the first of two-three CK changes I am pushing forward on, all related to languages. This exposes the situation and is, I think, a good idea on balance.
But it also exposes the problem—extending CK across LT languages is a bear. We've discussed various solutions in the past. I will be pushing one of them through as soon as I can do it.
NB: I haven't extended it to the CK subpage on work pages. For some reason they use a completely different function. I need to grab some of Chris' time to figure out why that is.
PS: Who on earth convinced the Catalans that the chronological order was the right order for Narnia! :)
You can check it out on Harry Potter: http://www.librarything.com/work/5403381
Or see the screenshot:

Clicking on "Catalan" brings up the Catalan CK edits.

Needless to say, if you're in the Catalan site, you get the Catalan ones by default, and click to see the English ones.
Click "X more" to edit CK for all the other LibraryThing languages.
Where this is going: This is the first of two-three CK changes I am pushing forward on, all related to languages. This exposes the situation and is, I think, a good idea on balance.
But it also exposes the problem—extending CK across LT languages is a bear. We've discussed various solutions in the past. I will be pushing one of them through as soon as I can do it.
NB: I haven't extended it to the CK subpage on work pages. For some reason they use a completely different function. I need to grab some of Chris' time to figure out why that is.
PS: Who on earth convinced the Catalans that the chronological order was the right order for Narnia! :)
5circeus
Oh My FRICKIN GOD.
This is SO GREAT. I upload mostly stuff in French. Now I can do so without having to log out!
This is SO GREAT. I upload mostly stuff in French. Now I can do so without having to log out!
7timspalding
Okay, I thought this would take a lot more time. But here's another change:
New Features: Languages in Common Knowledge #2: "Borrowing" data between languages
http://www.librarything.com/topic/107853
Note: Neither feature extends to authors yet. I want to fix bugs before I spread the feature too widely.
New Features: Languages in Common Knowledge #2: "Borrowing" data between languages
http://www.librarything.com/topic/107853
Note: Neither feature extends to authors yet. I want to fix bugs before I spread the feature too widely.
8brightcopy
This is great news! Kudos.
9Heather19
... I totally thought this was a bug when I saw it. Good thing I checked here before posting a bug report!
The reason I thought it was a bug: For works that don't have any CK data, it shows "— 49 more". Which makes sense if you know it's supposed to be listing language-data... not so much if you don't know that. It just says "49 more", not *what* the 49 more is or why it's there. It looks very, very out of place and confusing that way. Any way to change what shows up when the work has no CK?
The reason I thought it was a bug: For works that don't have any CK data, it shows "— 49 more". Which makes sense if you know it's supposed to be listing language-data... not so much if you don't know that. It just says "49 more", not *what* the 49 more is or why it's there. It looks very, very out of place and confusing that way. Any way to change what shows up when the work has no CK?
10timspalding
Yeah. I got rid of it entirely if there's no data.
11_Zoe_
Thanks! Will you be making non-language CK improvements in the near future as well? (I'm particularly hoping for better search options, which you had said was something you want to do.)
12lilithcat
I don't know if this is related to the change, or if it's a fluke (because I don't see it elsewhere), but in the "series" field for What Maisie Knew, I'm seeing this error message: Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/html/commonknowledge/inc_fwiki.php on line 1378
13anglemark
I had that error all day (on the Swedish site) but it just went away for me. I started a bug thread about it.
14geitebukkeskjegg
It's the 20th of January, and Christmas Day has already arrived. Thank you!
16gilroy
Only quirk I see -
Doesn't matter what language, I always have to click "See More" to edit. This includes my default (English). Not sure if that matters.
Doesn't matter what language, I always have to click "See More" to edit. This includes my default (English). Not sure if that matters.
17saltmanz
16> I get that too, in IE: all of the CK info is hidden until you expand the language list. It works just fine in Chrome, though.
19brightcopy
I predict Tim will say "Oh sorry. I'll fix that."
20timspalding
Oh, sorry. I'll fix that.
21lorax
18>
The basic rule for CK on split authors is to have it apply to the largest author, which should also be the number 1 author. This doesn't change site-to-site.
Really? That's a rather significant change from the previously stated rule, which was to have CK for split authors only if one was significantly larger than the rest; if one had 600 copies, and another had 20, then it was fine to fill it in, but if one had 600 and another 500, it should be left blank, because to do otherwise would put wrong data in front of a significant number of people. Should we change this, so that now even if it's close, majority still wins?
The basic rule for CK on split authors is to have it apply to the largest author, which should also be the number 1 author. This doesn't change site-to-site.
Really? That's a rather significant change from the previously stated rule, which was to have CK for split authors only if one was significantly larger than the rest; if one had 600 copies, and another had 20, then it was fine to fill it in, but if one had 600 and another 500, it should be left blank, because to do otherwise would put wrong data in front of a significant number of people. Should we change this, so that now even if it's close, majority still wins?
23timspalding
Open/Closed CK now fixed.
24timspalding
Fixed a bug related to Author CK. Check out the thread, which asks for help.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/108110
http://www.librarything.com/topic/108110
25writer1314
This is a language related difficulty which I may be posting in the wrong place, if so I appologise.
I have reached a point in my "adding books" where I want to add to my library a large number of older books. Some are related to Scots Gaelic language stories but the books have passages of text in English. Some are dual text (page in Gaelic - facing page is English translation and some are purely in Gaelic (Scots not Irish) and were published as such (no English in them at all). Most are 19th century some are early 20th century some are 18th century.
The Primary Language box makes no allowance for Gaelic (not one of the choices). Is there some way I can enter text in the language box myself? There is no point me entering these books into my library if the detail says they're English texts when they're not.
I would appreciate a 'steer' as to where I should post this question if this is the wrong place.
I have reached a point in my "adding books" where I want to add to my library a large number of older books. Some are related to Scots Gaelic language stories but the books have passages of text in English. Some are dual text (page in Gaelic - facing page is English translation and some are purely in Gaelic (Scots not Irish) and were published as such (no English in them at all). Most are 19th century some are early 20th century some are 18th century.
The Primary Language box makes no allowance for Gaelic (not one of the choices). Is there some way I can enter text in the language box myself? There is no point me entering these books into my library if the detail says they're English texts when they're not.
I would appreciate a 'steer' as to where I should post this question if this is the wrong place.
26Nicole_VanK
You can actually put Gaelic in any of the three language boxes (primary, secondary, and original). But it's not in the short list - you will have to click "show all languages" (below each of those boxes).
(Strictly not the right place, since that's "edit book" language instead of CK language. But never mind).
(Strictly not the right place, since that's "edit book" language instead of CK language. But never mind).
27writer1314
Thank you.

