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1Shortride
Jan 21, 2011, 1:40 pm

When I post the death date for George Bush (2), the Is this you function is removed, but the birth and death dates do not go next to the name at the top of the page.

2lemontwist
Edited: Jan 21, 2011, 5:49 pm

Also, for alive persons who were previously listed as dead, example: http://www.librarything.com/author/binghamjohn-2, he still shows up as dead in my stats/memes thing. Should I post that as a separate bug? Seems like it's different parts of the same issue.

Edit to add: however this guy http://www.librarything.com/author/allenwill-1 got off my dead authors list once I edited him so who knows?

3jjwilson61
Jan 21, 2011, 6:02 pm

2> I suspect that the alive/dead meme is just looking at the first author under the split. It's one of those issues that Tim knows needs to be done but hasn't done yet.

4timspalding
Jan 27, 2011, 12:53 am

It is now working. Here's a library that has two books--one by George Bush the president and another by George Bush the dead guy.



The big problem here is that author disambiguation is a work-level thing, not a book-level thing. So I am now using the work author, for books in your library, not the author you list. 95%-100% they will be the same, but they can differ.

Hard to explain why this is. I may try tomorrow.

5timspalding
Jan 27, 2011, 11:26 am

Still working on this. Some problems with authors appearing two places.

6timspalding
Jan 27, 2011, 12:00 pm

Okay, should be truly fixed.

7Nicole_VanK
Edited: Jan 27, 2011, 12:13 pm

Is it an intentional change that LT now draws on author names in the system instead of those in my catalogue? I have about a dozen "Anonymous" listed now.

If not intentional: not quite fixed.

8jjmcgaffey
Jan 27, 2011, 5:48 pm

That's what he's talking about at the end of Msg 4 - "I am now using the work author, for books in your library, not the author you list."

On the other bug thread about Not Set authors, he got some ideas for fiddling that. But for now, yeah, it'll have to be the work author.

9Nicole_VanK
Jan 27, 2011, 5:57 pm

Okay, I could live with that - in fact I don't quite get how I missed that part of #4. Anyway: as long as it isn't some accident.

So, should we close this then? I think so, anybody disagreeing: feel free to re-open.

10lorax
Jan 27, 2011, 6:27 pm

I don't like the work-author choice, but it is intentional. I understand the reason for using it for the assignment, but showing the work-author name rather than the book-author name is obnoxious. I'm careful with my authors, and sometimes the consensus author is crap -- surname-only, random "PhD" thrown in, etc. -- and I hate the implication that those crappy author names are in my library.

11brightcopy
Jan 27, 2011, 6:43 pm

Another place where a CK Canonical Author field would do wonders...

12Nicole_VanK
Jan 27, 2011, 7:19 pm

> 10 / 11: I totally agree, I don't like it. But since this is - apparently - intentional site behaviour it isn't a bug.

13jjwilson61
Jan 27, 2011, 8:21 pm

10> Tim said on this thread, http://www.librarything.com/topic/108337 (post 29) that he thinks he has a way to solve this and will implement it tomorrow.

14timspalding
Jan 27, 2011, 9:02 pm

Well, as soon as I can. I'll start working on it tonight anyway.