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1AnnaClaire
Wasn't Talk Like A Pirate Day back in, like, April or something? Or did I just lose all sense of timing when I clicked on that PBS link about the second season of Downton Abbey?
2timspalding
Arrr! It keeps moving, on account of sailing across the date line.
4AnnaClaire
>2 timspalding:
Just keep going in one direction at a constant rate, and I won't get so damn confused! ;)
Just keep going in one direction at a constant rate, and I won't get so damn confused! ;)
5keristars
What a great surprise! I'd forgotten about Pirate Day, but here it is. I love the Piratical skin once a year... more than one day at a time and it gets to be too much, but it's so much fun when it pops up. :)
6MarthaJeanne
Thank you for letting us turn this off. Otherwise I'd have to somehow manage a day without LT, and I get withdrawal symptoms.
7ForeignCircus
I do so love Talk Like a Pirate Day! Thank you Tim and LT for the annual giggle...
8MrsLee
Yep, after a long day at work, this brought out my first giggle. I still can't speak the speak though. I can drink like a pirate though! ;)
10Crypto-Willobie
Adding a new book to my catalog --
"Lord of the Pirates" by R.R.R. Tolkien...
"Lord of the Pirates" by R.R.R. Tolkien...
11clamairy
Thank yee fer this, Tim & co! (Scurvy dawgs that yee be.)
Almost widdled me britches when I spied this: "Signal hidden because you blackballed the knave (unfurl)"
Almost widdled me britches when I spied this: "Signal hidden because you blackballed the knave (unfurl)"
12Morphidae
>11 clamairy: Me, too! Ahem, I mean. AYE! Me as well!
13MerryMary
But I was hoping for a new pirate picture of Tim and Liam, darn it. It's fun to watch Liam grow.
14ForeignCircus
oh but for those of us who show it, the From Where column is new and so hasn't yet been translated. We need to come up with a good pirate translation!
15keristars
14> Port O' Call?
I love whoever translated "Starred" on the topic page to "Here be treasure". It's perfect!
I love whoever translated "Starred" on the topic page to "Here be treasure". It's perfect!
17catsinstacks
I love the pirate speak! Thanks for the surprise in an otherwise ordinary day.
18krazy4katz
I'm liking the U Arrrrrr Ls>.
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19theapparatus
Bittorrent
Tracker
Scrape
Choked
Oh wait. Wrong type of pirate....
Tracker
Scrape
Choked
Oh wait. Wrong type of pirate....
21LesMiserables
Coincidentally, I managed to buy a very nice unabridged illustrated children edition of Stevenson's Treasure Island today at a charity shop for the handsome price of AUD$2.00
22sqdancer
>20 Mr.Durick:
If you're in withdrawal, head over to the "piratical" version of the site :
http://pir.librarything.com/
If you're in withdrawal, head over to the "piratical" version of the site :
http://pir.librarything.com/
24mouloude 








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i really love sex !! really , really , really and i read yesterday night the " two girl one cup " books . ans i 'had really love it. I played with my dick all the night :) bye bye bye
25lorax
Why is #24 flagged spam? Crude, inappropriate, and off-topic, but that's never been prohibited.
26justjim
I don't know. I counter-flagged it hours ago and I'm surprised to see that it has gathered more flags since.
27timspalding
It's not merely "off-topic," it's way off-topic in a simultaneously thoughtless and deliberate way. The key element of spam is that it's intrusive noise, without connection to the conversation or the forum. This qualifies.
28theapparatus
The key element of spam is that it's intrusive noise, without connection to the conversation or the forum. This qualifies.
That's more a definition of abuse than spam.
For example I wrote an article a long time ago about my bad experiences with a file backup service. I get "comments" quite often promoting other services to that post. Usually a quick google and a check of the server logs shows that it's an automated promotional message, from a known gray or black IP range and the message can be found many places on the net.
By your definition, that's not spam as it's adding to the conversation as it's on topic.
29timspalding
Arguing about terminology is rarely fruitful. Still, your example would, from my perspective, fail for being commercial solicitation and abuse of the system qua system, like sock-puppeting.
30justjim
>27 timspalding: Wow! That's a radical re-definition of what is "flagable". I strongly urge you to re-think it.
31lorax
27>
I'm sorry, but that's completely inconsistent with everything you've previously said on the subject. You have repeatedly and specifically said that people who come into a conversation and posts things along the lines of "hey zyx123, whatz up???" (when zyx123 has not previously participated in that conversation) are not spam. It seems like the only difference here is the vulgar subject matter; if you want to prohibit that, or if your views have changed, it's great, but you haven't previously established that boundary.
I'm sorry, but that's completely inconsistent with everything you've previously said on the subject. You have repeatedly and specifically said that people who come into a conversation and posts things along the lines of "hey zyx123, whatz up???" (when zyx123 has not previously participated in that conversation) are not spam. It seems like the only difference here is the vulgar subject matter; if you want to prohibit that, or if your views have changed, it's great, but you haven't previously established that boundary.
32PensiveCat
In view of the thread, should the flag have a skull & crossbones on it?
33theapparatus
>Arguing about terminology is rarely fruitful.
Wasn't arguing. I was once again pointing out how you define something here is not what's generally accepted elsewhere on the net. Please kindly remember that some of us have been dealing with spam and abuse since it began. (Insert a link to the usenet green card scam article on Wikipedia. I'm on my locked down terminal and can't dig it out. Not that old but seems like it.)
>Wow! That's a radical re-definition of what is "flagable". I strongly urge you to re-think it.
Agreed.
>vulgar subject matter
You pretty much stated such during that discussion when you got confused between my report of a redirect link to a commerical porn site and what you thought I was reporting a NSFW link.
Wasn't arguing. I was once again pointing out how you define something here is not what's generally accepted elsewhere on the net. Please kindly remember that some of us have been dealing with spam and abuse since it began. (Insert a link to the usenet green card scam article on Wikipedia. I'm on my locked down terminal and can't dig it out. Not that old but seems like it.)
>Wow! That's a radical re-definition of what is "flagable". I strongly urge you to re-think it.
Agreed.
>vulgar subject matter
You pretty much stated such during that discussion when you got confused between my report of a redirect link to a commerical porn site and what you thought I was reporting a NSFW link.
34timspalding
Sorry, I don't agree. Totally out of the blue, non-conversational interjections made by an account started that day and only making such interjections are spam. They're noise, not talking. In general, we should give people the benefit of the doubt. If the person seems to really want to talk, but has chosen the wrong place, fine. This is not such a case.
I don't agree that I've said otherwise. "Wuzzup?" may charitably be some sort of lame attempt to communicate. Jumping into a conversation about LibraryThing in Pirate with "i really love sex !! really , really , really and i read yesterday night the " two girl one cup " books . ans i 'had really love it. I played with my dick all the night :) bye bye bye" isn't an attempt to communicate. It's an attempt to tweak us. I'd be inclined to give the post the benefit of the doubt if the topic were a general "who's who" one, or perhaps a discussion of likes and dislikes, nymphomania, coprophagy videos or onanism—or anything within a hundred miles of that. Otherwise, any monkey from Mars--to use a Rumsfeldism--can see the guy was just making noise for noise's sake. It's spam, and the user was justly--and I suspect quite rapidly--deleted by Jeremy.
I don't agree that I've said otherwise. "Wuzzup?" may charitably be some sort of lame attempt to communicate. Jumping into a conversation about LibraryThing in Pirate with "i really love sex !! really , really , really and i read yesterday night the " two girl one cup " books . ans i 'had really love it. I played with my dick all the night :) bye bye bye" isn't an attempt to communicate. It's an attempt to tweak us. I'd be inclined to give the post the benefit of the doubt if the topic were a general "who's who" one, or perhaps a discussion of likes and dislikes, nymphomania, coprophagy videos or onanism—or anything within a hundred miles of that. Otherwise, any monkey from Mars--to use a Rumsfeldism--can see the guy was just making noise for noise's sake. It's spam, and the user was justly--and I suspect quite rapidly--deleted by Jeremy.
35LesMiserables
> 35
I flagged it because it met one of those criterion that was pretty low in standards. It was sexually explicit and out of context and just poor behaviour. I was reading the thread with my 12 year old son and found it in very poor taste and alarming.
Whether it was pornographic, sexually explicit, commercial spam or something else, it did not belong here. To try and argue for it in some technically pedant notion is not in good taste either.
I flagged it because it met one of those criterion that was pretty low in standards. It was sexually explicit and out of context and just poor behaviour. I was reading the thread with my 12 year old son and found it in very poor taste and alarming.
Whether it was pornographic, sexually explicit, commercial spam or something else, it did not belong here. To try and argue for it in some technically pedant notion is not in good taste either.
36prosfilaes
#35: You know, I find #35 to be in very poor taste and alarming. To say that arguing for someone's right to say something is in poor taste is a horrifically controlling idea.
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As for #24 itself, eh. It goes on my list of "It doesn't really fit the rules for flagging, but it's so far outside community standards that I'm not going to unflag it."
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As for #24 itself, eh. It goes on my list of "It doesn't really fit the rules for flagging, but it's so far outside community standards that I'm not going to unflag it."
37guido47
Dear #30, Jim, and others,
are you arguing about "the thin edge of the wedge" as a general principal?
That Fuck Wit (seen on every non-moderated site) was worth flagging, if only to say we are "aware of you morons" and we pounce quickly.
I guess it relies on "common sense" and a certain trust in Tim et. al. Our ultimate vote/option is obvious, it's just that I become annoyed with "legalistic desires", especially in a social environment.
Guido.
are you arguing about "the thin edge of the wedge" as a general principal?
That Fuck Wit (seen on every non-moderated site) was worth flagging, if only to say we are "aware of you morons" and we pounce quickly.
I guess it relies on "common sense" and a certain trust in Tim et. al. Our ultimate vote/option is obvious, it's just that I become annoyed with "legalistic desires", especially in a social environment.
Guido.
38techeditor
I'm glad librarything had a button to turn OFF pirate-speak
39lorax
36>
As for #24 itself, eh. It goes on my list of "It doesn't really fit the rules for flagging, but it's so far outside community standards that I'm not going to unflag it."
Yeah, I sort of feel the same way.
I'm glad it was flagged, to be honest, but I don't think the rules-as-stated, either the actual text or Tim's past statements prior to this thread, support flagging it.
As for #24 itself, eh. It goes on my list of "It doesn't really fit the rules for flagging, but it's so far outside community standards that I'm not going to unflag it."
Yeah, I sort of feel the same way.
I'm glad it was flagged, to be honest, but I don't think the rules-as-stated, either the actual text or Tim's past statements prior to this thread, support flagging it.
40clamairy
Well, I'm starring this thread just to make it easier to find Tim's defense of flagging when I need it. I didn't flag the post, but I refuse to unflag it. I'm sure I've flagged similar tripe in the past. (And been keelhauled for doing it, too.)
41timspalding
keelhauled
Way to stay on topic! :)
Way to stay on topic! :)
43rastaphrog
*sigh* I completely missed TLAP Day both here and off line. All this cleaning up post flood has me a bit distracted, and the fact that I've yet to move the computer to the apartment and set up internet service means I'm only getting online for a little while while I'm at the house doing cleaning and packing. :(
46Crypto-Willobie
i really love sects! and i read yesterday night the "two gods, one chalice" books. but i'm having difficulty setting up my new bookcase and i played with my shelf all night... arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!

