Wrong covers - cats - replacing correct AMAZON cover

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Wrong covers - cats - replacing correct AMAZON cover

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1johninvienna
Jun 7, 2012, 8:38 pm

Some strange things are happening with covers:
The cat pictures have reappeared, and are now replacing the correct cover, for example:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1088020/workdetails/52046868

Here two cat pictures appear for an ELK book.
If you scan over one of them you get some information, but the user who uploaded it is not shown.
If you scan over the second one you get the correct cover from Amazon, but this is not showing up in the book entry.

2jjmcgaffey
Jun 8, 2012, 12:30 am

That is weird. The info without an uploader means the cover was uploaded long ago, before LT began tracking who put up the covers - not a problem or a surprise. But it showing up instead of the Amazon cover, when the Amazon cover shows in the popup, is definitely a bug.

I tried adding the book, so I could add the Amazon cover and see what actually showed up. But it was still the cat.

Oh, and I got the popup saying it would change my ISBN - which is really silly, when I was clicking on the cover I already had (outlined in green). It does happen sometimes, that someone re-chooses the same cover!

3johninvienna
Jun 8, 2012, 5:52 am

Hi!

Whatever you did the Amazon cover now appears!

This business of the ISBNs changing is also strange for me - I know I have the right cover and ISBN printed on the book and verified via WorldCat and still it is often being changed. ("This cover will change the ISBN message" does appear). Will make a bug report about that eventually.

The new cover arrangements are great and now we can see who is uploading cats, dogs, and other pictures for Book Covers!!!

Thanks for the help and I have set the bug to OFF.

4r.orrison
Jun 8, 2012, 6:14 am

Will make a bug report about that eventually.

Unfortunately, it's not a bug, it's a fact of life when using Amazon covers.

If you select a cover from Amazon, the system will change your ISBN to identify that cover. (That's how it keeps track of which Amazon cover you chose.)

Amazon can then change the cover that it associates with that ISBN, and LibraryThing has no way of knowing that the image has changed.

You're much better off choosing a member uploaded cover, which won't change your ISBN, and the image won't ever change on its own.

5Nicole_VanK
Jun 8, 2012, 6:51 am

Actually it will only change if Amazon has another ISBN attached to that cover. If you and Amazon agree on the ISBN nothing will happen.

However, also keep in mind that Amazon may change a cover whenever they "feel" like it, for example when a publisher changes a cover.

6timspalding
Jun 8, 2012, 3:04 pm

The book: http://www.librarything.com/work/1088020/details/52046868

has a custom cover—the cat cover. The user needs to remove to get the Amazon ISBN. Presumably they don't want to.

7jjmcgaffey
Jun 8, 2012, 3:07 pm

The point is that the popup appears whether or not your ISBN actually changes.

In this case, the Amazon cover was outlined in green, meaning I had that cover already - but clicking on the cover to apply makes the popup appear, even though in fact the ISBN will not change. It's poorly phrased, is all - ideally it wouldn't appear if the ISBNs already matched, but that would require checking both ISBNs before deciding whether to make the popup happen, and I think Tim thinks that would be too much processing/coding.

8timspalding
Jun 8, 2012, 3:12 pm

Oh, you mean that the green one is clickable. That's true always, though. What I am missing?

9jjmcgaffey
Jun 8, 2012, 3:17 pm

I mean that when I click on this (Amazon) cover, which is already assigned to the book and therefore has the same ISBN as the book, I still get the popup that says "Your ISBN will change". The first hundred times or so, my reaction was "What? What!? Why are you changing it?". After that, and a lot of obsessive comparing before-and-after ISBNs, I got a little more blasé...but it's still annoying. And as you can see from Msg 3, I'm not the only one confused and disconcerted by this popup.

10brightcopy
Jun 8, 2012, 3:45 pm

Maybe the confusing part is this really has nothing top do with the cat cover. It's a general gripe with that popup. A sensible and oft mentioned RSI.

11jjmcgaffey
Jun 8, 2012, 6:52 pm

Yes, true. Complete side issue. The cat-taking-over-Amazon has been fixed.