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However, the superhero stuff often seems to bridge genres, though not necessarily science fiction. More of the superhero stuff seems akin to fantasy to me, and while I haven't seen the Iron Man movies, my impression is that's one that might have some real SF content.
Not without some "inertial dampers." XD
Oh yeah, that's certainly up for consideration, too - you could do a lengthy dissertation on all the Christ figures (fascinatingly, created by mostly Jewish artists and writers) in American superhero comics alone.
Gladiator by Philip Wylie is definitely SF and is definitely a super powered human by not a superhero.
I guess too that Count Geiger's Blues is a SF book which features a superhero but which probably falls outside the superhero genre.
Adam Christopher's Empire State too is something I would count as SF, it feels like a superhero story (although one from the very dawn of superheroes when pulp was still dominant), and is SF.
As for comics. Well it really depends on how fast and loose you want your science. A case could be made for a few characters / teams. However in general the way superhero stories are told in comics is generally different to more SF based stories in comics.
Gladiator... Not a superhero.
Count Geiger's Blues... falls outside the superhero genre.
Empire State feels like a superhero story... and is SF.
nods you can use tropes outside their expected genre, I think most people realise that.though they might argue about where an individual work might fall. Indeed the ability to seamlessly assimilate an erstwhile alien trope into a genre so is a sign of a superior writer.
While most superhero fiction falls into the fantasy category due to the presence of supernatural elements, it isn't inherently fantasy. It's possible to have superhero SF by not including anything supernatural. Something I think Wild Cards and Black and White do reasonably well.
Yes, we've all become used to the extraterrestrial and mutant superhero subtypes, but Batman's not superhuman, and he emblemizes a whole semi-vigilante masked superhero type that extends from the pulps (the Shadow, e.g.) through modern comics.
In my attempt to define superhero fiction, a story must have a significant subset of (superhero) genre tropes. These include: superpowers, costumes and masks, secret identities, hero vs. villain, genre blindness, crime fighting / vigilantism, 'super' plots, and superhero culture. See
for more of my attempt to define superhero fiction. Note that at the time I wrote this, I hadn't come up with the distinction between 'superhuman' and 'superhero'.
Batman is a good example of a character who is primarily portrayed as being "merely" human, yet is fully a superhero as the obviously superhuman Superman.
In The Hero with a Thousand Faces book by Campbell I read on wiki that he tackles this subject and is mentioned in this article on screen writing.
Superhero fiction is a genre originating in and most common to American comic books, though it has expanded into other media through adaptations and original works.
The form is a type of speculative fiction examining the adventures of costumed crime fighters known as superheroes, who often possess superhuman powers and battle similarly powered criminals known as supervillains. Occasionally, this type of fiction is referred to as superhuman or super-powered fiction rather than superhero fiction in order to reflect that broader scope of both heroes and villains, as well as cover those characters with enhanced abilities that fall outside the classic superhero/supervillain dichotomy.
From the Wikipedia article Superhero fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superhero_fiction).
A series where the main character has powers and/or abilities that set him aside from other people. Usually (unless he's Not Wearing Tights) he is a costumed do-gooder with a colourful outfit (which likely sports a Chest Insignia), a Secret Identity and often unusual and useful superpowers or equipment. Sometimes he's a loner trying to deal with the hand that fate dealt him. Usually his reason for existence is to defeat his nemesis or arch-enemy the Supervillain.
...Superheroes are not limited merely to comic books and their derivations. Greek Heroes like Heracles and Achilles could be considered a sort of ancient prototype. Knight Rider or The Six Million Dollar Man are television examples partaking fairly little of the comic book medium. Anime in particular is chock full of super heroes from Astro Boy to Goku and Sailor Moon...Not to mention Super Robot, which is the Super Hero writ very large (and armored).
From the TV Tropes article Super Hero (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuperHero).
I haven't read Tom Strong, but yes, I suppose he's a science hero. He's not the only one, though, as the newly-issued Nemo: Heart of Ice demonstrates. Several of the antagonists in that volume are science heroes, as is, arguably, Nemo herself.
I know All Star Superman was supposed to be really good, but the fact that I knew he can never really die made it so I didn't really care about this "death of Superman" plot.
Some stay dead for decades though (Barry Allen for example) and some of the dead from the various crises in the DC worlds are yet to return.
But then - you are pretty much sure that the main character in any series (superhero or not) will survive whatever happens...
All Star Superman is really good. But my favorite of Morrison's work, which does include explicit superhero business, is The Filth. It gets robustly metafictional and offers some explorations of the cultural needs and social functions addressed by superheroes, while weaving a sort of outre science fiction psychedelic odyssey that (now that I think of it) reminds me a little of Doris Lessing's Briefing for a Descent Into Hell crossed with Austin Powers.
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