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"Your thoughts on future Folio Society Limited Editions" received by email this afternoon.
Once or twice a year we like to sound out our readers’ views on possible future titles for our range of Limited Editions. Last year, Love is Enough proved so popular that we will be publishing an edition in spring 2018, and several more titles from earlier surveys are also planned for future publication. In short, we value the views of you, the reader, more highly than any other.
Below you will find a link to a survey listing a number of titles for your consideration, and I would be very grateful for any insights you could provide at this purely tentative stage. There is a choice of boxes to tick for each title and a section for comments and suggestions at the end (all of which, I assure you, are read with great interest).
Please note that our survey closes at midday (UK time) Friday 10 November 2017.
Love is Enough? Never heard of it. Anyway, on to the survey.
https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/folio-le-research-9-titles?dm_i=4EQH,426Q,1YJBE...
Once or twice a year we like to sound out our readers’ views on possible future titles for our range of Limited Editions. Last year, Love is Enough proved so popular that we will be publishing an edition in spring 2018, and several more titles from earlier surveys are also planned for future publication. In short, we value the views of you, the reader, more highly than any other.
Below you will find a link to a survey listing a number of titles for your consideration, and I would be very grateful for any insights you could provide at this purely tentative stage. There is a choice of boxes to tick for each title and a section for comments and suggestions at the end (all of which, I assure you, are read with great interest).
Please note that our survey closes at midday (UK time) Friday 10 November 2017.
Love is Enough? Never heard of it. Anyway, on to the survey.
https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/folio-le-research-9-titles?dm_i=4EQH,426Q,1YJBE...
2johnbean9
Interestingly, my survey was almost entirely different. I'm in the US, so maybe that's a factor.
1. Illustrations of the Family of Psittacidae, or Parrots,
Edward Lear (1832)
Consisting of 42 lithographs of parrots, painted from life in the London Zoological Gardens, and all hand-coloured by the artist, this was the book that established Edward Lear as one of the greatest natural history artists of his age. Originally produced in only 175 precious sets and sold by subscription to Britain’s most eminent scholars and wealthy collectors, only 100 complete editions are known to exist today.
2. De Humani Corpori Fabrica (On the Fabric of the Human Body),
Andreas Vesalius (1543)
Vesalius was court physician to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V, as well as to Philip II of Spain, and his precise anatomical descriptions and detailed, posed, drawings create a seminal publication in medicine and one of the most beautiful science books ever printed. Originally in Latin, our edition would feature a commentary and translation of the original text.
3. Neues Blumenbuch (New Flower Book),
Maria Sybilla Meriam (1680)
A reproduction of the first and rarest complete book by a master of florilegia. Abandoning the traditional modes of illustration shown in 16th and 17th-century botanical treatises for more comprehensive, balanced compositions, Meriam originally published in three parts consisting of 12 plates each, but brought these together in the Neues Blumenbuch in 1680 along with a short introduction and a register of plant names. Arguably the most famous flower book of all time, the Neues Blumenbuch consists of 36 plates of stunning beauty.
4. Traité Élémentaire de Chimie (Elementary Treatise of Chemistry),
Antoine Lavoisier (1789)
Originally published in French in 1789, and translated into English by Robert Kerr in 1790, this is considered the first modern chemistry text, and contains a number of crucial firsts for the science. Lavoisier here defines an element as a single substance which cannot be broken down, publishes the first chemical equation and reveals his discovery that fermentation produces CO2. The book contains a list of known chemical elements, including oxygen and nitrogen, but also light and caloric. Features 13 fold-out engraved plates of chemical apparatus.
5. The Bay Psalm Book (1640)
The Whole Booke of Psalmes, universally known as The Bay Psalm Book, is the first book printed in what is now the United States of America, and was produced in the Massachusetts Bay Colony by the Congregationalist Puritans who left England in search of religious freedom. One of the great artefacts of American history, there are only 11 surviving copies of this poetical translation of the Psalms – one of the 11 sold at auction in 2013 for $14.2 million.
6. A Rake’s Progress,
William Hogarth (1732–4)
A series of eight paintings describing the downfall of Tom Rakewell, a spendthrift son and heir whose decline leads to prison and the asylum. Our edition would present all eight paintings reproduced from the originals alongside a commentary volume.
7. Broadsides,
Jack B. Yeats (1908–15)
Published by Dun Emer and Cuala Press each month from June 1908–May 1915, these four-page pamphlets were edited and illustrated by Jack B. Yeats, and published in collaboration with his sisters Elizabeth and Susan. The Broadsides contain poems and ballads; and feature contributions by John Masefield, Sir Walter Raleigh, James Stephens and Lady Gregory, amongst others, as well as over 100 hand-coloured drawings by Yeats.
8. Babar the Elephant,
Jean de Brunhoff (1931)
A facsimile of a small, delicate maquette (handmade booklet) that Jean de Brunhoff created in 1930 or 1931 as a prototype for the first book in the Babar series. To be published with a collection of loose leaf drafts and drawings for Histoire de Babar, and the final text itself with fully restored images.
9. The Pilgrim’s Progress (1678),
John Bunyan, illustrated by William Blake
One of the most famous Christian allegories of the seventeenth century, Pilgrim’s Progress follows the everyman protagonist as he struggles to rid himself of sin and enter the world ‘which is to come’. Blake’s Progress form a set of 28 watercolour illustrations, some of which remain in an unfinished state which can only add to their interest as they show the workings of a master.
10. Euclid’s Elements (1570 English edition)
Written around 300 BC, Euclid’s Elements is the oldest extant large-scale treatment of mathematics, and remained unsurpassed until well into the nineteenth century. The Folio edition would follow the first English edition, that of Sir Henry Billingsley in 1570 which featured a preface by Queen Elizabeth I’s adviser John Dee, an allegorical woodcut title page, countless illustrations and 60 overslips on 37 figures – these overslips were printed as six bifolia at the end of the book and were to be cut out and tipped onto the 37 figures.
11. Bezette Stad (Occupied City),
Paul van Ostaijen (1921)
Written in 1921 by the Flemish expressionist poet Paul van Ostaijen while in exile in Berlin, and with woodcuts by Oskar Jespers, Bezette Stad (or Occupied City) concerns the German occupation of Antwerp during the First World War. Consisting of 32 poems and five woodcuts by Jespers, each poem is presented in ‘rhythmic typography’. Our Folio edition would be the first to present, alongside the original work, a new typographic translation of the poems that echoes the presentation of the original.
12. Poems,
Federico García Lorca, illustrated with the author’s paintings
Best remembered for his plays and poetic ballads, Lorca was also an aspiring artist, both inspired and nurtured by his friend, Salvador Dalí. This Folio edition would include a selection of Lorca’s greatest poems, illustrated with his own paintings. From portraits of his friends and contemporaries, to scenes from his own poetry, this would be the definitive collector’s edition.
13. Nuremberg Chronicle (1493)
The most extensively illustrated book of the 15th century. The text is a universal history of the Christian world from the beginning of time to the early 1490s, lavishly illustrated with 1,804 xylographical images by the Nuremberg artists Michael Wolgemut and Wilhelm Pleydenwurff. Includes a map of the world, showing the Gulf of Guinea discovered by the Portuguese in 1470, and a map of Northern and Central Europe by Hieronymus Münzer.
1. Illustrations of the Family of Psittacidae, or Parrots,
Edward Lear (1832)
Consisting of 42 lithographs of parrots, painted from life in the London Zoological Gardens, and all hand-coloured by the artist, this was the book that established Edward Lear as one of the greatest natural history artists of his age. Originally produced in only 175 precious sets and sold by subscription to Britain’s most eminent scholars and wealthy collectors, only 100 complete editions are known to exist today.
2. De Humani Corpori Fabrica (On the Fabric of the Human Body),
Andreas Vesalius (1543)
Vesalius was court physician to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V, as well as to Philip II of Spain, and his precise anatomical descriptions and detailed, posed, drawings create a seminal publication in medicine and one of the most beautiful science books ever printed. Originally in Latin, our edition would feature a commentary and translation of the original text.
3. Neues Blumenbuch (New Flower Book),
Maria Sybilla Meriam (1680)
A reproduction of the first and rarest complete book by a master of florilegia. Abandoning the traditional modes of illustration shown in 16th and 17th-century botanical treatises for more comprehensive, balanced compositions, Meriam originally published in three parts consisting of 12 plates each, but brought these together in the Neues Blumenbuch in 1680 along with a short introduction and a register of plant names. Arguably the most famous flower book of all time, the Neues Blumenbuch consists of 36 plates of stunning beauty.
4. Traité Élémentaire de Chimie (Elementary Treatise of Chemistry),
Antoine Lavoisier (1789)
Originally published in French in 1789, and translated into English by Robert Kerr in 1790, this is considered the first modern chemistry text, and contains a number of crucial firsts for the science. Lavoisier here defines an element as a single substance which cannot be broken down, publishes the first chemical equation and reveals his discovery that fermentation produces CO2. The book contains a list of known chemical elements, including oxygen and nitrogen, but also light and caloric. Features 13 fold-out engraved plates of chemical apparatus.
5. The Bay Psalm Book (1640)
The Whole Booke of Psalmes, universally known as The Bay Psalm Book, is the first book printed in what is now the United States of America, and was produced in the Massachusetts Bay Colony by the Congregationalist Puritans who left England in search of religious freedom. One of the great artefacts of American history, there are only 11 surviving copies of this poetical translation of the Psalms – one of the 11 sold at auction in 2013 for $14.2 million.
6. A Rake’s Progress,
William Hogarth (1732–4)
A series of eight paintings describing the downfall of Tom Rakewell, a spendthrift son and heir whose decline leads to prison and the asylum. Our edition would present all eight paintings reproduced from the originals alongside a commentary volume.
7. Broadsides,
Jack B. Yeats (1908–15)
Published by Dun Emer and Cuala Press each month from June 1908–May 1915, these four-page pamphlets were edited and illustrated by Jack B. Yeats, and published in collaboration with his sisters Elizabeth and Susan. The Broadsides contain poems and ballads; and feature contributions by John Masefield, Sir Walter Raleigh, James Stephens and Lady Gregory, amongst others, as well as over 100 hand-coloured drawings by Yeats.
8. Babar the Elephant,
Jean de Brunhoff (1931)
A facsimile of a small, delicate maquette (handmade booklet) that Jean de Brunhoff created in 1930 or 1931 as a prototype for the first book in the Babar series. To be published with a collection of loose leaf drafts and drawings for Histoire de Babar, and the final text itself with fully restored images.
9. The Pilgrim’s Progress (1678),
John Bunyan, illustrated by William Blake
One of the most famous Christian allegories of the seventeenth century, Pilgrim’s Progress follows the everyman protagonist as he struggles to rid himself of sin and enter the world ‘which is to come’. Blake’s Progress form a set of 28 watercolour illustrations, some of which remain in an unfinished state which can only add to their interest as they show the workings of a master.
10. Euclid’s Elements (1570 English edition)
Written around 300 BC, Euclid’s Elements is the oldest extant large-scale treatment of mathematics, and remained unsurpassed until well into the nineteenth century. The Folio edition would follow the first English edition, that of Sir Henry Billingsley in 1570 which featured a preface by Queen Elizabeth I’s adviser John Dee, an allegorical woodcut title page, countless illustrations and 60 overslips on 37 figures – these overslips were printed as six bifolia at the end of the book and were to be cut out and tipped onto the 37 figures.
11. Bezette Stad (Occupied City),
Paul van Ostaijen (1921)
Written in 1921 by the Flemish expressionist poet Paul van Ostaijen while in exile in Berlin, and with woodcuts by Oskar Jespers, Bezette Stad (or Occupied City) concerns the German occupation of Antwerp during the First World War. Consisting of 32 poems and five woodcuts by Jespers, each poem is presented in ‘rhythmic typography’. Our Folio edition would be the first to present, alongside the original work, a new typographic translation of the poems that echoes the presentation of the original.
12. Poems,
Federico García Lorca, illustrated with the author’s paintings
Best remembered for his plays and poetic ballads, Lorca was also an aspiring artist, both inspired and nurtured by his friend, Salvador Dalí. This Folio edition would include a selection of Lorca’s greatest poems, illustrated with his own paintings. From portraits of his friends and contemporaries, to scenes from his own poetry, this would be the definitive collector’s edition.
13. Nuremberg Chronicle (1493)
The most extensively illustrated book of the 15th century. The text is a universal history of the Christian world from the beginning of time to the early 1490s, lavishly illustrated with 1,804 xylographical images by the Nuremberg artists Michael Wolgemut and Wilhelm Pleydenwurff. Includes a map of the world, showing the Gulf of Guinea discovered by the Portuguese in 1470, and a map of Northern and Central Europe by Hieronymus Münzer.
3HuxleyTheCat
ETA - you beat me to it :-) I'm in the UK so it's not geographical.
Just in case there are different varieties of survey, this is the one I received:
(deleted as it's the same as >2 johnbean9:)
Just in case there are different varieties of survey, this is the one I received:
(deleted as it's the same as >2 johnbean9:)
4folio_books
Well mine is completed.
Nine titles. One "probably would" buy; three probably wouldn't, four definitely not. Add those up . . yep, not a single "definitely would". This is a poor bunch.
Nine titles. One "probably would" buy; three probably wouldn't, four definitely not. Add those up . . yep, not a single "definitely would". This is a poor bunch.
5gmacaree
I'd love the Pilgrim's Progress, Lorca's poems, the Nuremberg Chronicles, Corpus Fabrica, Lavoisier's Treatise, the Perfumed Garden ... lots to like in here I think.
6johnbean9
Thanks :) Yes, I suppose different surveys are sent out randomly. I wonder if there's a third version ...
7folio_books
>3 HuxleyTheCat: ETA - you beat me to it :-) I'm in the UK so it's not geographical.
How strange! What is going on here, methinks?
Anyway, the alternative version is not much better. There is one definite buy, the Nuremberg Chronicle. Otherwise, my money is safe.
How strange! What is going on here, methinks?
Anyway, the alternative version is not much better. There is one definite buy, the Nuremberg Chronicle. Otherwise, my money is safe.
8MobyRichard
Strong yes to Perfumed Garden and Nuremberg Chronicles (if translated). I already have a true English third edition of Corpus Fabrica from Karger Publishers. My survey listed '120 Days of Sodom' by De Sade which sounds like something a lot of ppl might buy as a curio but never read. It also had some Leonard Cohen book, which...no, please no.
This is the link I got in FS email: http://explore-foliosociety.com/4EQH-426Q-1YJM2O-2GOD2-1/c.aspx
Very different from the list above.
This is the link I got in FS email: http://explore-foliosociety.com/4EQH-426Q-1YJM2O-2GOD2-1/c.aspx
Very different from the list above.
9pythagoras
My survey is the same as the one listed by johnbean9 and HuxleyTheCat. I'm in the UK.
11HuxleyTheCat
>7 folio_books: Given the strong components of mine, perhaps one's prior purchases have something to do with it, as I've bought Micrographia (lots of science in my survey); the Dali 1001 Nights (Lorca's Poems) and Liber Bestiarum (The Nuremburg Chronicle). Given the first two titles on your list, Glenn... (cough) :-)
Lear's Parrots and the Nuremburg Chronicle get the thumbs up from me (cost dependent) and for suggestions I've plugged Wolf Hall and The Snow Leopard (if we didn't get those two in the Reader's Choice then I'll hold out for some LE treatment and happily pay for it) something by Hermann Hesse, and a vellum-spine edition of The Hobbit.
Lear's Parrots and the Nuremburg Chronicle get the thumbs up from me (cost dependent) and for suggestions I've plugged Wolf Hall and The Snow Leopard (if we didn't get those two in the Reader's Choice then I'll hold out for some LE treatment and happily pay for it) something by Hermann Hesse, and a vellum-spine edition of The Hobbit.
12treereader
>1 folio_books:
These survey links have some sort of identifier built into them. Whether they are identifying you or a particular survey is currently unknown. To be safe, posting your survey link is probably not a good idea if you want *your* survey results to count.
These survey links have some sort of identifier built into them. Whether they are identifying you or a particular survey is currently unknown. To be safe, posting your survey link is probably not a good idea if you want *your* survey results to count.
13chrisrsprague
In regards to Little, Big - they may be competing with this edition, currently in production:
http://littlebig25.com/Editions.html
(no affiliation, etc)
http://littlebig25.com/Editions.html
(no affiliation, etc)
14groeng
I am in ROW and mine is as in >2 johnbean9: above.
As always depending on price (my main consideration due to an ever falling currency...), I indicated the following:
Certain buys (unless ridiculously expensive):
#3 Neues Blumenbuch (I love Merian...)
#6 The Rake's Progress
Probable buys (depending on production values and price):
# 1 Edward Lear
# 2 Vesalius
# 9 Pilgrim's Progress (main attraction is of course Blake)
# 11 Van Ostaijen (actually studied him years ago)
# 12 Lorca (just love him)
# 13 Nuremberg Chronicle (seriously interested but this is likely to be super expensive)
Probable won't buys:
# 4 Lavoisier (probably too tehnical but if the price is right, who knows?)
# 5 The Bay Psalm Book
# 10 Euclid (as for Lavoisier)
Won't buys:
# 7 Broadsides
# 8 Babar the Elephant (huh?)
As always depending on price (my main consideration due to an ever falling currency...), I indicated the following:
Certain buys (unless ridiculously expensive):
#3 Neues Blumenbuch (I love Merian...)
#6 The Rake's Progress
Probable buys (depending on production values and price):
# 1 Edward Lear
# 2 Vesalius
# 9 Pilgrim's Progress (main attraction is of course Blake)
# 11 Van Ostaijen (actually studied him years ago)
# 12 Lorca (just love him)
# 13 Nuremberg Chronicle (seriously interested but this is likely to be super expensive)
Probable won't buys:
# 4 Lavoisier (probably too tehnical but if the price is right, who knows?)
# 5 The Bay Psalm Book
# 10 Euclid (as for Lavoisier)
Won't buys:
# 7 Broadsides
# 8 Babar the Elephant (huh?)
15treereader
Also, I received this email today, as well. I'll post the options I see once I've had a chance to go through the survey.
Edit: I received the same survey list as MobyRichard in (8).
Edit: I received the same survey list as MobyRichard in (8).
16Levin40
>9 pythagoras:
I got that one too. The survey hasn't been sent out on a geographical basis as they ask your location at the end of it.
I agree with >4 folio_books: that it's not a very inspiring bunch. I have the impression that a lot of these - if produced - would end up sitting in the FS warehouse for years. While I understand the appeal of facsimiles of historical books, I'm not sure why FS don't do more to mix this up with contemporary fare, perhaps with (dare I say it) living authors. It's not too difficult to come up with ideas of books that would fly off the shelves, even at LE prices, and I find it strange that the more commercial drive of recent standard and fine editions (SF, fantasy, horror etc) has as yet hardly made any impact on LEs.
I got that one too. The survey hasn't been sent out on a geographical basis as they ask your location at the end of it.
I agree with >4 folio_books: that it's not a very inspiring bunch. I have the impression that a lot of these - if produced - would end up sitting in the FS warehouse for years. While I understand the appeal of facsimiles of historical books, I'm not sure why FS don't do more to mix this up with contemporary fare, perhaps with (dare I say it) living authors. It's not too difficult to come up with ideas of books that would fly off the shelves, even at LE prices, and I find it strange that the more commercial drive of recent standard and fine editions (SF, fantasy, horror etc) has as yet hardly made any impact on LEs.
17folio_books
>11 HuxleyTheCat: something by Hermann Hesse
Oh, Fiona. Will you marry me? ;)
My heart sank when I read the first title. Oh dear. Morte Darthur LE - again? Pilgrim's Progress? I have a Folio edition, thank you. Cohen Poems and Lyrics? Can it get any worse? Oh yes, Ivanhoe.
Just very, very poor. At least the alternative list had things on it which one could potentially see as an LE. Most of these I wouldn't think twice of rejecting as a standard edition. Wolf Hall I'd agree with but I'd prefer a standard edition - you know, £75 instead of £275.
Oh, Fiona. Will you marry me? ;)
My heart sank when I read the first title. Oh dear. Morte Darthur LE - again? Pilgrim's Progress? I have a Folio edition, thank you. Cohen Poems and Lyrics? Can it get any worse? Oh yes, Ivanhoe.
Just very, very poor. At least the alternative list had things on it which one could potentially see as an LE. Most of these I wouldn't think twice of rejecting as a standard edition. Wolf Hall I'd agree with but I'd prefer a standard edition - you know, £75 instead of £275.
18folio_books
>12 treereader: These survey links have some sort of identifier built into them.
Thanks. Yes I did think of that but I concluded hey, does it matter, one survey in a melting pot of thousands.
Thanks. Yes I did think of that but I concluded hey, does it matter, one survey in a melting pot of thousands.
19groeng
Interesting is that the survey I got, which leans more heavily to historical facsimiles, had examples of illustrations. The other one (which appears more literary) appears not to have.
I agree that the literary one is fairly boring...
The historical one is quite exciting and if the prices are right, I'd actually be interested in the majority of them.
I agree that the literary one is fairly boring...
The historical one is quite exciting and if the prices are right, I'd actually be interested in the majority of them.
20scholasticus
EDIT: Didn't realise the link in >1 folio_books: led to the same survey as mine!
There certainly appears to be multiple versions.
These are the titles that haven't been mentioned yet:
Morte d’Arthur (1485),
Thomas Malory
Caxton, England’s first printer, published Malory’s tales of the Knights of the Round Table, the Morte d’Arthur, in 1485 to great acclaim. Now, only one complete copy exists. Our Folio edition would present a facsimile of the Caxton edition alongside a second volume with a modern scholarly presentation of the text.
Tales of the Alhambra (1832),
Washington Irving
Written during his time staying at the Alhambra palace in Granada, Spain, the Tales combine legend, history and even Irving’s own travelogue. Referred to as a ‘Spanish sketchbook’, the stories feature princes and genies, battles and enchanted treasure, and include real historical events from the Moorish foundation to the 1821 earthquake that shook the palace foundations.
Ivanhoe (1820),
Walter Scott
Set in twelfth-century England, Ivanhoe tells the story of one of the few remaining Saxon noble families at a time when the nobility in England was overwhelmingly Norman. The narrative follows the protagonist, Sir Wilfred of Ivanhoe, whose allegiance lies with the Norman king Richard the Lionheart, and a host of legendary characters including Robin Hood (as Robin of Locklsley) and his ‘merry men’. Originally published in three volumes at around 1,000 pages, Ivanhoe remains one of Scott’s best-known and most influential masterpieces.
Little, Big (1982),
John Crowley
Edgewood, a rambling country house set somewhere north of ‘the City’, is the home of the Drinkwater family, and is the scene for the meandering, dreamlike story that unwinds over a period of more than a hundred years. Winner of the 1982 World Fantasy Award, Little, Big is an epic palimpsest considered to be ‘a neglected masterpiece’ that ‘calls for a redefinition of fantasy’.
Tigana (1990),
Guy Gavriel Kay
Set in a beleaguered land caught in a web of tyranny, Tigana is the story of a people struggling to be free. A people so cursed by the dark sorceries of the tyrant King Brandin that even the very name of their once beautiful land cannot be spoken or remembered. However, a handful of men and women, driven by love, hope and pride, set in motion the dangerous quest for freedom and bring back to the world the lost brightness of an obliterated name: Tigana.
There certainly appears to be multiple versions.
These are the titles that haven't been mentioned yet:
Morte d’Arthur (1485),
Thomas Malory
Caxton, England’s first printer, published Malory’s tales of the Knights of the Round Table, the Morte d’Arthur, in 1485 to great acclaim. Now, only one complete copy exists. Our Folio edition would present a facsimile of the Caxton edition alongside a second volume with a modern scholarly presentation of the text.
Tales of the Alhambra (1832),
Washington Irving
Written during his time staying at the Alhambra palace in Granada, Spain, the Tales combine legend, history and even Irving’s own travelogue. Referred to as a ‘Spanish sketchbook’, the stories feature princes and genies, battles and enchanted treasure, and include real historical events from the Moorish foundation to the 1821 earthquake that shook the palace foundations.
Ivanhoe (1820),
Walter Scott
Set in twelfth-century England, Ivanhoe tells the story of one of the few remaining Saxon noble families at a time when the nobility in England was overwhelmingly Norman. The narrative follows the protagonist, Sir Wilfred of Ivanhoe, whose allegiance lies with the Norman king Richard the Lionheart, and a host of legendary characters including Robin Hood (as Robin of Locklsley) and his ‘merry men’. Originally published in three volumes at around 1,000 pages, Ivanhoe remains one of Scott’s best-known and most influential masterpieces.
Little, Big (1982),
John Crowley
Edgewood, a rambling country house set somewhere north of ‘the City’, is the home of the Drinkwater family, and is the scene for the meandering, dreamlike story that unwinds over a period of more than a hundred years. Winner of the 1982 World Fantasy Award, Little, Big is an epic palimpsest considered to be ‘a neglected masterpiece’ that ‘calls for a redefinition of fantasy’.
Tigana (1990),
Guy Gavriel Kay
Set in a beleaguered land caught in a web of tyranny, Tigana is the story of a people struggling to be free. A people so cursed by the dark sorceries of the tyrant King Brandin that even the very name of their once beautiful land cannot be spoken or remembered. However, a handful of men and women, driven by love, hope and pride, set in motion the dangerous quest for freedom and bring back to the world the lost brightness of an obliterated name: Tigana.
21folio_books
>20 scholasticus: These are the titles that haven't been mentioned yet:
Yeah, these were all in the one I completed. I concluded they were too boring to mention :)
Yeah, these were all in the one I completed. I concluded they were too boring to mention :)
22HuxleyTheCat
>14 groeng: Have you seen the Taschen Nuremburg Chronicle? There are plenty on abe at prices likely well below a Folio LE price. I've got the German edition so am missing an English Commentary.
23HuxleyTheCat
>17 folio_books: Well I actually put Siddhartha, but I know it's not the Hesse of choice amongst devotees.
"Can it get any worse? Oh yes, Ivanhoe." Be charitable, this will have made Miserable Les' day!
"Can it get any worse? Oh yes, Ivanhoe." Be charitable, this will have made Miserable Les' day!
24folio_books
>2 johnbean9: Interestingly, my survey was almost entirely different.
Forgot to say thank you, John, for your labour of love in copying all of that. Very useful for those of us who didn't get that survey.
Forgot to say thank you, John, for your labour of love in copying all of that. Very useful for those of us who didn't get that survey.
25groeng
>22 HuxleyTheCat: No, but thanks a lot, I shall investigate. Unfortunately the cost of shipping Taschen books to SA is prohibitive and we don' t have Amazon...
I know a little bit of German, so kein problem!
I know a little bit of German, so kein problem!
26inkcentricity
I have the 9 title survey as opposed to the 13 title one. I have dutifully submitted my answers (1 definite and a lot of probables; only 2 got a definite "no thanks").
Dear FS Mole, please note that while several of the titles on the 13 title survey are very interesting (I know, you didn't ask me about them), I would really, really, really like the Nuremberg Chronicle (I have to say this, sorry if you didn't want me to). Apologies if that messes up your statistical sampling.
Dear FS Mole, please note that while several of the titles on the 13 title survey are very interesting (I know, you didn't ask me about them), I would really, really, really like the Nuremberg Chronicle (I have to say this, sorry if you didn't want me to). Apologies if that messes up your statistical sampling.
27treereader
>15 treereader:
As a wild guess, I'd speculate that getting an LE version made of a recently published book would be severely limited by the interests of the publishing company who owns the printing and distribution rights to the book. If Hachette or Harper Collins or whomever felt that a deluxe Folio version would distract their customers or otherwise eat into their profits, they'd never consider it.
As a wild guess, I'd speculate that getting an LE version made of a recently published book would be severely limited by the interests of the publishing company who owns the printing and distribution rights to the book. If Hachette or Harper Collins or whomever felt that a deluxe Folio version would distract their customers or otherwise eat into their profits, they'd never consider it.
28affle
I had the same list as Glenn, >1 folio_books: - for me, mostly definitely would not, a few grudging probably would not, nothing at all above the line; really dismal list.
One or two of the others mentioned by other people might generate a spark of interest, but no definitely would buy. I hope Joe's enjoying his retirement.
One or two of the others mentioned by other people might generate a spark of interest, but no definitely would buy. I hope Joe's enjoying his retirement.
29SF-72
That literary survey was truly uninspiring. I'd much rather have had the other one... Those Parrots are gorgeous, for example, and the Taschen edition has become extremely expensive on the secondary market. And another William Blake would be very welcome.
30Levin40
>27 treereader: Not sure about this as Subterannean and Centipede and others seem to manage this kind of thing. I noticed the other day that Centipede have a limited edition of Murakami's Kafka on the Shore on the way. This is exactly the kind of contemporary LE that Folio should be doing more of.
31treereader
>30 Levin40:
I was thinking of even newer books, published within say the last 2-3 years. Kafka on the Shore was first published 15 years ago. I would definitely agree that something like that, whose initial profiting period has waned, is not only ripe for at least a standard FS treatment but, depending on the book, an LE treatment.
I was thinking of even newer books, published within say the last 2-3 years. Kafka on the Shore was first published 15 years ago. I would definitely agree that something like that, whose initial profiting period has waned, is not only ripe for at least a standard FS treatment but, depending on the book, an LE treatment.
32MobyRichard
>30 Levin40:
>31 treereader:
Standard editions -- I agree completely.
Limited editions:
My only argument against that (aside from royalty issues) is that several times I've read a book and thought "God, that's a classic." Five years later, I could care less. There's something to be said for letting the shine wear off a little before investing $$$$$$ into an LE project. To me, 15 - 20 years sounds about right.
>31 treereader:
Standard editions -- I agree completely.
Limited editions:
My only argument against that (aside from royalty issues) is that several times I've read a book and thought "God, that's a classic." Five years later, I could care less. There's something to be said for letting the shine wear off a little before investing $$$$$$ into an LE project. To me, 15 - 20 years sounds about right.
33HuxleyTheCat
>31 treereader: Subterranean published Zafon's Cemetery of Forgotten of Forgotten Books novels in signed/illustrated editions in close chronological relation to the direct equivalents from Weidenfeld and Nicolson. I know this isn't a usual state of affairs but it does happen. Likewise, the Folio His Dark Materials trilogy were published very close indeed to the release of the film version for which Scholastic had re-issued the books.
34Jayked
I got nothing, again, which is what I'd buy. I'm choosing to believe that I've been lost in the bowels of the ancient IT system, along with poor old Joe, whose blog seems to have sunk without trace.
35HuxleyTheCat
>25 groeng: It's well out of print now, but there are many copies on abe, albeit at prices multiple times that at which the various editions were sold.
36dlphcoracl
For those of you who want 'The Nuremberg Chronicle', THIS is what you really want - or should want. The translation from the 1493 Latin edition is flawless and the quality of these books is top drawer.
http://www.smithandpress.com/Our_Books.html
http://www.smithandpress.com/Our_Books.html
37ironjaw
Interesting survey, some definite buys, some would be interesting but cost permitting, but overall nothing that grabs attention.
38kdweber
Well I would have voted for The Nuremburg Chronicle except I already have Taschen's Schedel: Chronicle of the World - 1493 a complete facsimile of a hand colored edition of the German translation of the Nuremberg chronicle with an 88 page book of annotations and commentary which cost me $44 delivered.
Taschen also knocks out the Euclid, not to mention the recent Kickstarter edition.
No must haves in my survey results, mostly unlikely or definite nos with Traité Élémentaire de Chimie as my only probable.
Taschen also knocks out the Euclid, not to mention the recent Kickstarter edition.
No must haves in my survey results, mostly unlikely or definite nos with Traité Élémentaire de Chimie as my only probable.
39MobyRichard
>36 dlphcoracl:
I'd exercise caution there. I'm not certain the publisher still exists. They haven't updated their website in years, and their shopping cart is janky. Not to mention the multiple "Available April 2014" messages for books that may or may not have ever been released.
I'd exercise caution there. I'm not certain the publisher still exists. They haven't updated their website in years, and their shopping cart is janky. Not to mention the multiple "Available April 2014" messages for books that may or may not have ever been released.
40dlphcoracl
Their website is badly in need of updating but it is real and the books do exist and are available. I know, I own a set of the 4-vol. Liber Chronicarum Translation Series and the English translation makes it endlessly fascinating, much more than another facsimile that collects dust on one's shelves. The simplest thing to do is call the proprietor, Selim S. Nahas, directly (617-595-8808), to discuss any of the offerings on his website.
41Levin40
>31 treereader:
>32 MobyRichard:
Completely agree on the 15+ year timeframe, also because the books future status would then be somewhat more clear. I suppose what I was really asking was why FS seem to have a complete aversion to doing any LEs by living authors. In fact, has there ever been an example? I can't think of one. Even with their recent near-contemporary LEs they managed to miss the boat by a few years (Pratchett and Hoban). The much-rumoured 'From Hell' could well be the first...unless they delay in releasing it is in fact due to FS waiting for Alan Moore to pop his clogs first.
I think they really need to modernise their LE programme in general. Looking at other publishers and FS's own Mort, there seems to be an obvious sweet spot for LEs at the sub £200 or £250 mark. If the book is well produced, has had time to earn its place as a modern classic and is perhaps signed by the author, there is no reason why it wouldn't fly of the shelves in days or even hours. I have no idea why FS don't spend more of their energies exploiting this sweet spot. Again, I'm not saying they shouldn't continue with their historical facsimilies too; there's no reason why they couldn't do both.
Back to the current survey, I'm glad that they're continuing to display an interest in historical scientific works. I was very happy with Micrographia - the content, design, production and price point were all excellent - and I'd like to see them produce more along the same lines.
>32 MobyRichard:
Completely agree on the 15+ year timeframe, also because the books future status would then be somewhat more clear. I suppose what I was really asking was why FS seem to have a complete aversion to doing any LEs by living authors. In fact, has there ever been an example? I can't think of one. Even with their recent near-contemporary LEs they managed to miss the boat by a few years (Pratchett and Hoban). The much-rumoured 'From Hell' could well be the first...unless they delay in releasing it is in fact due to FS waiting for Alan Moore to pop his clogs first.
I think they really need to modernise their LE programme in general. Looking at other publishers and FS's own Mort, there seems to be an obvious sweet spot for LEs at the sub £200 or £250 mark. If the book is well produced, has had time to earn its place as a modern classic and is perhaps signed by the author, there is no reason why it wouldn't fly of the shelves in days or even hours. I have no idea why FS don't spend more of their energies exploiting this sweet spot. Again, I'm not saying they shouldn't continue with their historical facsimilies too; there's no reason why they couldn't do both.
Back to the current survey, I'm glad that they're continuing to display an interest in historical scientific works. I was very happy with Micrographia - the content, design, production and price point were all excellent - and I'd like to see them produce more along the same lines.
42ultrarightist
>36 dlphcoracl: It is sold out...
43overthemoon
I think my list was the same as >8 MobyRichard:, starting with de Sade. I definitely would not buy any of them. The other list sounds more tempting - Merian's Blumenbuch, for instance. I bought a copy of Tales of the Alhambra at the Alhambra itself - it had been printed in Spain and was full of excruciating typos, but I ploughed through it to the end. Wouldn't want to read it again, even in a more polished edition.
And Cohen - I like his songs but would not want to read them; I did try one of his novels but gave up after 10 pages.
And Cohen - I like his songs but would not want to read them; I did try one of his novels but gave up after 10 pages.
44wcarter
I got the first survey receivd by >1 folio_books:, of which few were of any interest. Those on the second survey by >2 johnbean9: looked far more interesting. I have several from both surveys in Taschen or LEC editions, so would not buy a different FS edition.
45LesMiserables
Scott perhaps, finally.
46devilsisland
>45 LesMiserables:
That's the only one I have even a little interest in and it wasn't even on my survey.
That's the only one I have even a little interest in and it wasn't even on my survey.
47McLeanSloughter
The LEs are generally outside of my budget, but I'd certainly be tempted by Euclid, Scott, and Morte d'Arthur. I would try to find a way to justify the cost for those three.
48LesMiserables
A 3 volume edition like the Spenser edition would be great.
49kdweber
180 Days of Sodom? Really? I received the other survey but of all the books I've ever read, this was the absolute worst. Depraved doesn't even come close! I try to read any book that has been banned but if ever a book deserves to be banned, this is it. I cannot fathom why anyone would make an LE edition of this book.
51cwl
I got the underwhelming de Sade list. From what we've seen here, there could be much to look forward to. Lear, if at all similar to their usual natural history plate books, but especially if matched to the other birds publication, would be an instant buy. I'd already been hoping they would do the parrots plates, particularly as these are what made Lear's name. Malory, probably yes, too.
Regarding the de Sade, just to be contrarian, I commented that it would be bought only if it came with full-page explicit colour photographs commissioned specially for this edition. Come to think of it, that would fit quite well in Taschen's catalogue ...
Again, I have suggested William Hamilton and Pietro Fabris' Campi Phlegraei as a high-quality facsimile. There was a good one done in about 1990, but it's difficult to find without bumped corners or warped boards these days.
Regarding the de Sade, just to be contrarian, I commented that it would be bought only if it came with full-page explicit colour photographs commissioned specially for this edition. Come to think of it, that would fit quite well in Taschen's catalogue ...
Again, I have suggested William Hamilton and Pietro Fabris' Campi Phlegraei as a high-quality facsimile. There was a good one done in about 1990, but it's difficult to find without bumped corners or warped boards these days.
52inkcentricity
I knew I'd forget something I should've added to the suggestions list:
John Leland's Itinerary probably the 1744 text but open to others' preferences.
and
John Speed's The Theatre of the Empire of Great Britaine or William Camden's Britannia with Speed's maps ...
John Leland's Itinerary probably the 1744 text but open to others' preferences.
and
John Speed's The Theatre of the Empire of Great Britaine or William Camden's Britannia with Speed's maps ...
53LolaWalser
Sade is immoral, but child abuser Eric Gill's erotic illustrations are A-OK? Lol!
They publish the Bible--they can publish Sade.
They publish the Bible--they can publish Sade.
54SF-72
Has anyone else noticed that they keep on bringing up erotic (depending on one's taste) books more frequently in these surveys? Do they expect this to be a big hit? So far I have the impression that's not really the case and they have a far better chance of good sales with some of the classics (Monte Cristo) and fantastic literature (Pratchett etc.).
55ultrarightist
>53 LolaWalser: Poor argument. I trust you can separate the content from the author/artist. None of Gill's illustrations depict the disgusting practices of which he was apparently guilty. De Sades writings, on the other hand, are chock full of depravity. And I won't comment on your puerile dig at the Bible.
56LolaWalser
>55 ultrarightist:
Well, you could have skipped commenting on my post altogether.
First, your claim about Gill is patently false--his erotic illustrations* depict sexual practices he himself must have indulged in as a matter of course, given that he fathered children, and practices we know he subjected his daughters to as well. If you mean that they are not meant as realistic portraits of his abusive relationships, granted easily enough. So what?
Fact remains this man drew his daughters, his penis, and his pretty little stylised sketches of couplings on the same page, "in the same breath" so to speak.
*I don't know how well known this is, but Gill drew and printed a variety of more explicit versions of his erotic work for a handful of "special" patrons and connoisseurs. I mention this in case we get to arguing what "practice" and "depicting" is. In plain English, Gill made pictures of explicit fucking too.
As for Sade, yes, his writings are chock full of depravity--and even so don't begin to compare to the "holy" book, let alone to the amount of human suffering and misery this has caused.
Well, you could have skipped commenting on my post altogether.
First, your claim about Gill is patently false--his erotic illustrations* depict sexual practices he himself must have indulged in as a matter of course, given that he fathered children, and practices we know he subjected his daughters to as well. If you mean that they are not meant as realistic portraits of his abusive relationships, granted easily enough. So what?
Fact remains this man drew his daughters, his penis, and his pretty little stylised sketches of couplings on the same page, "in the same breath" so to speak.
*I don't know how well known this is, but Gill drew and printed a variety of more explicit versions of his erotic work for a handful of "special" patrons and connoisseurs. I mention this in case we get to arguing what "practice" and "depicting" is. In plain English, Gill made pictures of explicit fucking too.
As for Sade, yes, his writings are chock full of depravity--and even so don't begin to compare to the "holy" book, let alone to the amount of human suffering and misery this has caused.
57ultrarightist
>56 LolaWalser: I could have skipped commenting on your post, and you could have skipped commenting on mine. So what?
Regarding my point, you again missed it, perhaps intentionally. Given the context of this forum, I was clearly referring to the Gill illustrations that FS has published or is considering publishing, which I think you knew. FS has not and is not planning to publish sketches of his daughters, his penis, or his dog. The illustrations that FS has published are no more erotic or explicit than the illustrations by other artists in the roughly contemporaneous fine press limited editions of the Decameron, for example.
So, to be clear, the comparison is not between De Sade the man and Gill the man, or between De Sade's writings and Gill the man, as perhaps you would have it, but between De Sade's writings that FS is considering publishing and the Gill illustrations that FS has published or is considering publishing. Given this comparison, I reiterate that your argument is a poor one.
Regarding my point, you again missed it, perhaps intentionally. Given the context of this forum, I was clearly referring to the Gill illustrations that FS has published or is considering publishing, which I think you knew. FS has not and is not planning to publish sketches of his daughters, his penis, or his dog. The illustrations that FS has published are no more erotic or explicit than the illustrations by other artists in the roughly contemporaneous fine press limited editions of the Decameron, for example.
So, to be clear, the comparison is not between De Sade the man and Gill the man, or between De Sade's writings and Gill the man, as perhaps you would have it, but between De Sade's writings that FS is considering publishing and the Gill illustrations that FS has published or is considering publishing. Given this comparison, I reiterate that your argument is a poor one.
58LolaWalser
>57 ultrarightist:
Given that I don't have to care a fig about your priorities, your calling my argument "poor" is neither here nor there.
So, to be clear, the comparison is not between De Sade the man and Gill the man...
Ha! Of course not--for all his faults and delinquency Sade was a better man than Gill or any number of Bible thumpers who find the mere sight of a four-letter word a worse offence than daughter-rape.
but between De Sade's writings that FS is considering publishing and the Gill illustrations that FS has published or is considering publishing.
And I'm comparing the hypocritical responses to the one vs. the other by those who insist on sanitising ordure like Gill.
Given that I don't have to care a fig about your priorities, your calling my argument "poor" is neither here nor there.
So, to be clear, the comparison is not between De Sade the man and Gill the man...
Ha! Of course not--for all his faults and delinquency Sade was a better man than Gill or any number of Bible thumpers who find the mere sight of a four-letter word a worse offence than daughter-rape.
but between De Sade's writings that FS is considering publishing and the Gill illustrations that FS has published or is considering publishing.
And I'm comparing the hypocritical responses to the one vs. the other by those who insist on sanitising ordure like Gill.
59Pellias
>54 SF-72: I am pretty sure that the titles they filter through to the surveys, don`t come out of the blue. But from customer enquieries, some at least, if not all. I would think Kama Sutra would not be a bad investement for FS, more unsure about the `de Sade` from this survey, but it has it`s fans, no doubt
FS had `the Libertines` offered from Abbeville press in i think 3 sales (only offered through sales) and seemed to be a pretty popular volume, as it sold out, and also were gorgeous, amongst the finest non-FS volumes they have offered. So the `libertines` theme does not scare of FS customers. Even if `de Sade` is more graphic. Liberarythinger`s is another question, we are not as big a bunch as we would like to think (could maybe get some data/pointers of that via the poll `wcarter` did put up on the poll on the China thread) - no doubt also that we are a divided bunch when it comes to certain themes and that will never change with the ones that are active on this forum at present time
One would like to think that the modern man or woman had the sense to see `de Sade` in perspective, and who buys what will remain subjective as always
I do believe it would sell better than a facsimilie from the middle ages, or something of that kind on a general basis
****
Morte d`Arthur - Thomas Mallory. Another one? .. different from the previous LE, how?
****
Some others here are of interest, like `Euclid` (do not own the Taschen) - `Ivanhoe`(if they put it right), other than that, no instant ones before i see them, but who knows when i learn more
FS had `the Libertines` offered from Abbeville press in i think 3 sales (only offered through sales) and seemed to be a pretty popular volume, as it sold out, and also were gorgeous, amongst the finest non-FS volumes they have offered. So the `libertines` theme does not scare of FS customers. Even if `de Sade` is more graphic. Liberarythinger`s is another question, we are not as big a bunch as we would like to think (could maybe get some data/pointers of that via the poll `wcarter` did put up on the poll on the China thread) - no doubt also that we are a divided bunch when it comes to certain themes and that will never change with the ones that are active on this forum at present time
One would like to think that the modern man or woman had the sense to see `de Sade` in perspective, and who buys what will remain subjective as always
I do believe it would sell better than a facsimilie from the middle ages, or something of that kind on a general basis
****
Morte d`Arthur - Thomas Mallory. Another one? .. different from the previous LE, how?
****
Some others here are of interest, like `Euclid` (do not own the Taschen) - `Ivanhoe`(if they put it right), other than that, no instant ones before i see them, but who knows when i learn more
60Cat_of_Ulthar
>20 scholasticus:
That's the list I got; it didn't float my boat. I think I'd rather have had the other one.
I'd love Folio to do the Lear parrots in series with his birds for Gould. And some Hesse would be nice.
That's the list I got; it didn't float my boat. I think I'd rather have had the other one.
I'd love Folio to do the Lear parrots in series with his birds for Gould. And some Hesse would be nice.
62LolaWalser
This group is one of the last I'd choose if I were looking for an intelligent discussion of Sade, but I feel an obligation, at least, to put out the idea that Sade's work has rather less in common with the Kama Sutra or any kind of "one-hand read" than one might suppose.
63Cat_of_Ulthar
>32 MobyRichard:
'To me, 15 - 20 years sounds about right.'
I have been working my way slowly through Steven Pinker's Better Angels recently. A really interesting book, which has at its core the idea that global trade is one (not the only one, okay?) of several reasons that levels of violence in the world have reduced (Basically, you don't want to kill the people you are doing business with because then you can't sell them stuff).
Recent events, however (and I shall name no names), seem to be set on testing that thesis to breaking point so Pinker (or, more precisely, the researchers he is citing) might turn out to be horribly and depressingly wrong.
We live, as they say, in interesting times. Personally, I think I agree with Rincewind. I'd rather be happily bored.
Stop fighting with each other, folks. What's the point?
War, Huhh?
Grrrr.
'To me, 15 - 20 years sounds about right.'
I have been working my way slowly through Steven Pinker's Better Angels recently. A really interesting book, which has at its core the idea that global trade is one (not the only one, okay?) of several reasons that levels of violence in the world have reduced (Basically, you don't want to kill the people you are doing business with because then you can't sell them stuff).
Recent events, however (and I shall name no names), seem to be set on testing that thesis to breaking point so Pinker (or, more precisely, the researchers he is citing) might turn out to be horribly and depressingly wrong.
We live, as they say, in interesting times. Personally, I think I agree with Rincewind. I'd rather be happily bored.
Stop fighting with each other, folks. What's the point?
War, Huhh?
Grrrr.
66Cat_of_Ulthar
Re de Sade.
I am no expert on him or Gill. But, wasn't 120 Days a fantasy as opposed to Gill's actually being a nasty piece of work?
And, if so, how does that affect the moral calculus? Thinking of/philosophising about (which is the whole point of literature) as opposed to actually doing?
I am no expert on him or Gill. But, wasn't 120 Days a fantasy as opposed to Gill's actually being a nasty piece of work?
And, if so, how does that affect the moral calculus? Thinking of/philosophising about (which is the whole point of literature) as opposed to actually doing?
67LesMiserables
>62 LolaWalser:
This group is one of the last I'd choose if I were looking for an intelligent discussion of Sade,
Why bother then, making so much noise, about, well... everything? You seem very angry about many many things. Perhaps you should block the vast majority of members in this group or leave the group or, I don't know, talk to someone about things...
I hope you work it out.
This group is one of the last I'd choose if I were looking for an intelligent discussion of Sade,
Why bother then, making so much noise, about, well... everything? You seem very angry about many many things. Perhaps you should block the vast majority of members in this group or leave the group or, I don't know, talk to someone about things...
I hope you work it out.
68ultrarightist 
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>58 LolaWalser: And I do not give a fig for yours. Between us, we are saving some figs. Illogical arguments, obtuseness, pettiness, and condescension - all the hallmarks of a shrill feminist. I shall not waste any more of my time with your ilk.
69LolaWalser
>65 LesMiserables:
Have you voted in yet to deny your gay compatriots the right to marry whom they love?
>66 Cat_of_Ulthar:
Yes, that would seem the obvious place to start... if the bigots didn't find philosophical subversion worse than actual crimes--especially when the latter are committed by the so-called religious folk.
Have you voted in yet to deny your gay compatriots the right to marry whom they love?
>66 Cat_of_Ulthar:
Yes, that would seem the obvious place to start... if the bigots didn't find philosophical subversion worse than actual crimes--especially when the latter are committed by the so-called religious folk.
70LesMiserables
>69 LolaWalser:
Have you voted in yet to deny your gay compatriots the right to marry whom they love?
O dear. You need help.
Have you voted in yet to deny your gay compatriots the right to marry whom they love?
O dear. You need help.
72LesMiserables
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73LolaWalser
>72 LesMiserables:
Stupid how? Bigoted how? It's a reasonable enough question given your often-proclaimed religious views--including in this group and this very thread.
Point being, Folio publishing Sade (to say nothing of merely asking about it--where it's most likely to end anyway) would to many be considerably less "immoral" than what religious bigots daily do and try to do to others.
Stupid how? Bigoted how? It's a reasonable enough question given your often-proclaimed religious views--including in this group and this very thread.
Point being, Folio publishing Sade (to say nothing of merely asking about it--where it's most likely to end anyway) would to many be considerably less "immoral" than what religious bigots daily do and try to do to others.
74Pellias
>62 LolaWalser: Okay. Thanks. I thought they were more or less the same ;)
I would buy both. I would like both more or less in different ways, and i will read neither with one hand or any volume for that matter in terms of a book. That`s not my thing. But perhaps others will. I am not bounded by any wide spectrum ending out in something called say, moral in this particular matter. But i do respect others opinions, everybody has their reasons. Just plain curiosity of how FS would make this LE look. But `de Sade` would (in some cases) give me more of an adventure than discussions on LT, but no rule without exeption. Remember, i`m not bounded and all that. In short: Acting out `de Sade` - probably not / Acting out `Kama Sutra` - probably.
If i were a psycopath, very easily affected by things, looking for a childrens book or to find a book on how to love, etc .. then `de Sade` would most likely not be good for me. Now, as a grown man, i can read whattever, and put it away, whenever .. books don`t dictate me, i dictate how i read them .. that`s why seldom two or more people are not reading the same book
NB. I like everybody on LT, i do have more relations with some more than others, probably chemistry, personality traits and all that, this affect things of course, but i do like the whole lot. If that makes me a sheep, then at least give me a bell, haha (i don`t need any followers, i prefere solitude - in a certain degree at least, but give me a bell anyway)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kq1msiO6Xw
Oh you guys, and of course you gals, cheers!
I would buy both. I would like both more or less in different ways, and i will read neither with one hand or any volume for that matter in terms of a book. That`s not my thing. But perhaps others will. I am not bounded by any wide spectrum ending out in something called say, moral in this particular matter. But i do respect others opinions, everybody has their reasons. Just plain curiosity of how FS would make this LE look. But `de Sade` would (in some cases) give me more of an adventure than discussions on LT, but no rule without exeption. Remember, i`m not bounded and all that. In short: Acting out `de Sade` - probably not / Acting out `Kama Sutra` - probably.
If i were a psycopath, very easily affected by things, looking for a childrens book or to find a book on how to love, etc .. then `de Sade` would most likely not be good for me. Now, as a grown man, i can read whattever, and put it away, whenever .. books don`t dictate me, i dictate how i read them .. that`s why seldom two or more people are not reading the same book
NB. I like everybody on LT, i do have more relations with some more than others, probably chemistry, personality traits and all that, this affect things of course, but i do like the whole lot. If that makes me a sheep, then at least give me a bell, haha (i don`t need any followers, i prefere solitude - in a certain degree at least, but give me a bell anyway)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kq1msiO6Xw
Oh you guys, and of course you gals, cheers!
75LolaWalser
>74 Pellias:
Acting out `de Sade` - probably not / Acting out `Kama Sutra` - probably.
Hear, hear! :)
Acting out `de Sade` - probably not / Acting out `Kama Sutra` - probably.
Hear, hear! :)
76kcshankd
Voted 'none of the above' to the Sade list. I hope someone gets something they want, but there was nothing there I found even remotely interesting.
77LesMiserables
I've today blocked a member, my first. I should have done it a long time ago. I am a firm believer in genuine opinion that is respectful.
However I come to realise that there are certain folk who go looking for trouble on threads, turning conversations into disgusting venomous campaigns.
This thread, the Bond thread, countless more.
Anyway, onwards and upwards. :-)
However I come to realise that there are certain folk who go looking for trouble on threads, turning conversations into disgusting venomous campaigns.
This thread, the Bond thread, countless more.
Anyway, onwards and upwards. :-)
78ultrarightist
>77 LesMiserables: Upwards very much indeed.
79LesMiserables
>78 ultrarightist:
Indeed, and I have counter flagged your >68 ultrarightist:. I do not consider anything there a violation of TOS, merely an objective response to baiting.
Indeed, and I have counter flagged your >68 ultrarightist:. I do not consider anything there a violation of TOS, merely an objective response to baiting.
80ultrarightist
>79 LesMiserables: Thank you, and I've returned the gesture wrt >72 LesMiserables:
81katielouise
I put a rather strong comment in against Tigana. I don't care one whit whether or not you like the Marquis de Sade - but Tigana by Guy Gavriel Kay is a step too far!
Their other more modern version, Little, Big, I would happily buy. I have the Easton Press one but I'd buy another. I'd also love to see a John Crowley short story collection as a standard edition.
Their other more modern version, Little, Big, I would happily buy. I have the Easton Press one but I'd buy another. I'd also love to see a John Crowley short story collection as a standard edition.
83cronshaw
>82 gmacaree: Too true! :)
84folio_books
>82 gmacaree:
Sometimes I feel that way, and just stop reading. Most of the time I just feel sorry for them for their hate-filled inconsequential little lives. Of course, that doesn't apply exclusively to the far right.
Sometimes I feel that way, and just stop reading. Most of the time I just feel sorry for them for their hate-filled inconsequential little lives. Of course, that doesn't apply exclusively to the far right.
86parchmenths
...goodbye?
87boldface
>85 affle:
You've just reminded me. There's a lovely copy of the Little Red Book I saw the other day going for just £1.99 in my local Oxfam shop.
You've just reminded me. There's a lovely copy of the Little Red Book I saw the other day going for just £1.99 in my local Oxfam shop.
88folio_books
>85 affle: My Little Red Book is waving...
I may still have my copy somewhere though I rather doubt it. I know for certain I still have my Communist Manifesto, from college days.
I may still have my copy somewhere though I rather doubt it. I know for certain I still have my Communist Manifesto, from college days.
89Auberon
>81 katielouise:
Little, Big is my favorite novel and I actually got a bit lightheaded when I saw it on the survey. I've been waiting nearly a decade for the Incunabula edition and although I no longer believe the semiannual emails claiming this will be the year, I do look forward to seeing it someday.
If Folio published anything by Crowley (the Aegypt Cycle???) I'd be beyond thrilled.
He has a new novel out, by the way: Ka: Dar Oakley in the Ruin of Ymr
It looks terrific.
Little, Big is my favorite novel and I actually got a bit lightheaded when I saw it on the survey. I've been waiting nearly a decade for the Incunabula edition and although I no longer believe the semiannual emails claiming this will be the year, I do look forward to seeing it someday.
If Folio published anything by Crowley (the Aegypt Cycle???) I'd be beyond thrilled.
He has a new novel out, by the way: Ka: Dar Oakley in the Ruin of Ymr
It looks terrific.
90ultrarightist
Send your little red books to me. I'll happily use them for purposes for which they are fit: fire starters and toilet paper when I'm camping in the woods.
92ultrarightist
>91 affle: I figured as much, but I wanted to express my sentiments nonetheless. And there is little irony involved, your acrostic notwithstanding.
94LolaWalser
Let a hundred flowers blossom! :)
95treereader
Uniformly spaced red flowers? (j/k)
96MobyRichard
>43 overthemoon:
Get the Limited Editions Club version. Delightful. I purchased it as part of a large auction lot and ignored it
for a year or so, to my detriment.
I think FS should publish De Sade, if only to prove that words aren't magic. They can't "make" you immoral.
There's no sympathetic bond (or spooky action at a distance) between words and the things they symbolize.
Get the Limited Editions Club version. Delightful. I purchased it as part of a large auction lot and ignored it
for a year or so, to my detriment.
I think FS should publish De Sade, if only to prove that words aren't magic. They can't "make" you immoral.
There's no sympathetic bond (or spooky action at a distance) between words and the things they symbolize.
97laotzu225
>79 LesMiserables: For what it is worth, my opinion is that >68 ultrarightist: did not deserve to get flagged. So I agree with your action. And, somewhat reluctantly since the First Amendment to the US Constitution is one of my few passions, I agree with your blocking decision.
98c_schelle
I also got the same survey as >1 folio_books:. I'm not very likely to buy any of the titles, but I would probably buy the Lavosier and Euklid. If they had just one survey for all possible books that would give them a better view of the willingness of people to buy the books. It seems that (at least in this forum) a lot of people got surveys with books they will not buy, but would buy books from the other survey.
99terebinth
Interesting that Pilgrim's Progress is the one title to appear on both lists, but once with Blake's illustrations and once without. I would probably buy it with them, but am otherwise quite content with my present modest edition.
I think Lear's Parrots and the Bay Psalm Book were my only other probables, but I'm always open to subsequent persuasion and am doubtful that these surveys are very successful in predicting my behaviour. I'm not sure I would even have signalled my readiness to buy the Herefordshire Pomona on the strength of such a basic description alone.
I think Lear's Parrots and the Bay Psalm Book were my only other probables, but I'm always open to subsequent persuasion and am doubtful that these surveys are very successful in predicting my behaviour. I'm not sure I would even have signalled my readiness to buy the Herefordshire Pomona on the strength of such a basic description alone.
100LolaWalser
>95 treereader:
:)
In addition to signalling what titles may promise to be popular sellers, I wonder if the surveys also don't give them some idea of the (presumably ever-changing) tastes and interests of their customers. That may be more of a point than setting out their publishing programme or some such.
:)
In addition to signalling what titles may promise to be popular sellers, I wonder if the surveys also don't give them some idea of the (presumably ever-changing) tastes and interests of their customers. That may be more of a point than setting out their publishing programme or some such.
102kcshankd
>97 laotzu225:
The First Amendment of the US Constitution of course has nothing to do with the interactions between private individuals, passion or no.
The First Amendment of the US Constitution of course has nothing to do with the interactions between private individuals, passion or no.
103Willoyd
Getting back to the survey (and coming late to this as I've been away enjoying the autumn bird migration!), I received the Lear Parrots list. Pretty much all the books received 'Definitely Won't Buy' responses: nothing like the sorts of books I'd consider.
Of the other list - ironlically more the type of book (i.e. designed for reading) that I would possibly be interested in, I'd love to see Ivanhoe as a standard edition (preferably at a reasonable price!), but otherwise quite the dullest selection I've seen the FS produce in quite a long while.
If I'm going to spend a lot of money on a book, I want to enjoy reading it, not just looking at it.
Of the other list - ironlically more the type of book (i.e. designed for reading) that I would possibly be interested in, I'd love to see Ivanhoe as a standard edition (preferably at a reasonable price!), but otherwise quite the dullest selection I've seen the FS produce in quite a long while.
If I'm going to spend a lot of money on a book, I want to enjoy reading it, not just looking at it.
104HuxleyTheCat
>98 c_schelle: I filled out both.
105SF-72
> 104 HuxleyTheCat
Do you have a link for the one with Lear / Parrots etc.? I only received the other one, which is also linked to here, but would love to participate in the one which actually had titles that I found interesting.
Do you have a link for the one with Lear / Parrots etc.? I only received the other one, which is also linked to here, but would love to participate in the one which actually had titles that I found interesting.
106elladan0891
>74 Pellias:
Øyvind, our lamb of peace, haha. Thanks for giving me a smile.
I got the de Sade version of the survey. Can't say there is a single must buy for me. But I've never really been a big fan of FS LE program. Happily for my wallet, I got seduced only by a handful of recent LEs like Micrographia and Rupert Brooke (will probably succumb to The Door In The Wall eventually, and perhaps to The Edda).
Last year, Love is Enough proved so popular that we will be publishing an edition in spring 2018
Love is Enough? The William Morris poem? Don't recall it featuring in any surveys...
Also, to the point of FS missing out on potential good LE candidates - they could run a very simple survey asking Folio customers to simply enter 3 books they wished to be published as LEs, and see if there are any popular entries. Mole, feel free to pass this suggestion.
Øyvind, our lamb of peace, haha. Thanks for giving me a smile.
I got the de Sade version of the survey. Can't say there is a single must buy for me. But I've never really been a big fan of FS LE program. Happily for my wallet, I got seduced only by a handful of recent LEs like Micrographia and Rupert Brooke (will probably succumb to The Door In The Wall eventually, and perhaps to The Edda).
Last year, Love is Enough proved so popular that we will be publishing an edition in spring 2018
Love is Enough? The William Morris poem? Don't recall it featuring in any surveys...
Also, to the point of FS missing out on potential good LE candidates - they could run a very simple survey asking Folio customers to simply enter 3 books they wished to be published as LEs, and see if there are any popular entries. Mole, feel free to pass this suggestion.
107c_schelle
I just finished the survey and suggested that the next time they sent the whole list of possible books to everyone to give them a better overview. Another point for me is the price. I would love to buy the science books, but not at £500+. The inclusion of the possible price would help me better judge how likely I am to buy the books.
108Pellias
>106 elladan0891: You are welcome! I remember there were something William Morris on some past surveys, but when this was, and what it was .. i can`t recall
109jveezer
I'm reading some of the great Chinese classics, some of which have been banned or prudishly abridged (especially in the West but also in the East) for hundreds of years. The Chin P'ing Mei can be read as erotica (if you're into that. The title puns on near homophones that could be translated "The Glamour of Entering the Vagina" ), or it can be read as an indictment and commentary of the corruption of politicians, society, and the imperial court of the times. Likewise the Jou Pu Tuan can be read as an erotic or moral novel, or both.
I would venture to the say the same about Sade. He was also a philosopher (an extreme Libertarian, I believe...) suppressed and jailed almost his whole life by a puritanical and hypocritical society. My interpretation and reading of these works depends on what stage of "Growing Up" or "Waking Up" I happen to be in. I would have read these works differently as an adolescent than I do as an old yogi on the road to find out. Just my thoughts...
Back to LE's, given the right illustrations, I could be tempted by a Sade edition. I would definitely buy the above mentioned Chinese classics, regardless of what label others put on them, if the FS put them out. This juxtaposition of my beliefs, morals, and my love of art and literature brings to mind some Dali(?) artwork I saw in a gallery once for Venus in Furs. They might have been too "erotic" for many people's taste and I don't know if they actually ever made it in a book, but if they did, and I could afford it, it would be on my shelves faster than a whip could come down.
I would venture to the say the same about Sade. He was also a philosopher (an extreme Libertarian, I believe...) suppressed and jailed almost his whole life by a puritanical and hypocritical society. My interpretation and reading of these works depends on what stage of "Growing Up" or "Waking Up" I happen to be in. I would have read these works differently as an adolescent than I do as an old yogi on the road to find out. Just my thoughts...
Back to LE's, given the right illustrations, I could be tempted by a Sade edition. I would definitely buy the above mentioned Chinese classics, regardless of what label others put on them, if the FS put them out. This juxtaposition of my beliefs, morals, and my love of art and literature brings to mind some Dali(?) artwork I saw in a gallery once for Venus in Furs. They might have been too "erotic" for many people's taste and I don't know if they actually ever made it in a book, but if they did, and I could afford it, it would be on my shelves faster than a whip could come down.
110jveezer
...jeez, I use a lot of parentheses (and commas (and run-on sentences)) when I write...Why?
;)
;)
111terebinth
>106 elladan0891:
It's just over a year since Love is Enough was a future LE suggestion: https://www.librarything.com/topic/234383#5751747 .
It's just over a year since Love is Enough was a future LE suggestion: https://www.librarything.com/topic/234383#5751747 .
112olepuppy
>107 c_schelle: I'm hoping that the classic science books offered are similar to Micrographia in price. I could wish for at least a price range if possible.
113c_schelle
>112 olepuppy: That's the price I'm hoping for as well.
114HuxleyTheCat
>105 SF-72: Sorry, but I no longer have it, as it was emailed and once I had completed the survey I deleted the email.
115folio_books
>23 HuxleyTheCat: Well I actually put Siddhartha, but I know it's not the Hesse of choice amongst devotees.
I don't know how I missed this first time. Siddhartha is not at all a bad choice in my opinion. I'd certainly buy it. When they first nibbled on my suggestion they came back with Steppenwolf as their likely choice (they=John Letts) which I almost certainly wouldn't buy. It's very far from his best, The Glass Bead Game, which has been top of my list ever since Folio had such a thing.
"Can it get any worse? Oh yes, Ivanhoe." Be charitable, this will have made Miserable Les' day!
Really? Shame ...
I don't know how I missed this first time. Siddhartha is not at all a bad choice in my opinion. I'd certainly buy it. When they first nibbled on my suggestion they came back with Steppenwolf as their likely choice (they=John Letts) which I almost certainly wouldn't buy. It's very far from his best, The Glass Bead Game, which has been top of my list ever since Folio had such a thing.
"Can it get any worse? Oh yes, Ivanhoe." Be charitable, this will have made Miserable Les' day!
Really? Shame ...
116HuxleyTheCat
>115 folio_books: Regarding the lower part of your message, I can only respond 'Indeed'. :-)
ETA - Siddhartha is diddy so would be affordable - huzzah! I have the LEC Steppenwolf and don't need another edition, but I've never read The Glass Bead Game and would be very happy to take it on recommendation here that it is a super book.
ETA - Siddhartha is diddy so would be affordable - huzzah! I have the LEC Steppenwolf and don't need another edition, but I've never read The Glass Bead Game and would be very happy to take it on recommendation here that it is a super book.
117laotzu225
I located one of the surveys but not the other; none was e-mailed or sent to me despite my longevity as a Folio member/whatever-you'd-call- it-now (since the 70s).
My preferred limited editions would be facsimiles of golden age fine press books (The Door in the Wall or the Gill books are good examples) or smaller letterpress editions like the recent Edward Thomas or earlier beautiful Wilfred Owen from 1989.
Where the survey asked for a recommendation, I asked for a facsimile of the Sir Emery Walker, Wilfred Merton and Bruce Rogers 1932 The Odyssey translated by none other than T.E. Lawrence (whom I believe was not credited in the original edition of 800 copies. Some bibliophilic writers have called it the most beautiful book ever made.
Feel free to join me in this campaign.
My preferred limited editions would be facsimiles of golden age fine press books (The Door in the Wall or the Gill books are good examples) or smaller letterpress editions like the recent Edward Thomas or earlier beautiful Wilfred Owen from 1989.
Where the survey asked for a recommendation, I asked for a facsimile of the Sir Emery Walker, Wilfred Merton and Bruce Rogers 1932 The Odyssey translated by none other than T.E. Lawrence (whom I believe was not credited in the original edition of 800 copies. Some bibliophilic writers have called it the most beautiful book ever made.
Feel free to join me in this campaign.
118folio_books
>116 HuxleyTheCat: I've never read The Glass Bead Game and would be very happy to take it on recommendation here that it is a super book.
Well I have to say it's all a matter of personal taste, one FSD's meat etc etc but if I had to nominate a "favourite book ever" The Glass Bead Game would be at the front of the queue. To add a little balance, my wife positively loathes it :)
Well I have to say it's all a matter of personal taste, one FSD's meat etc etc but if I had to nominate a "favourite book ever" The Glass Bead Game would be at the front of the queue. To add a little balance, my wife positively loathes it :)
119ultrarightist
I'd love to see some weighty classics printed letterpress, with illustrations printed from woodblock or metal plate. I recall from last year's survey that FS floated proposed letterpress Canterbury Tales.
120jveezer
Few presses can reasonably attempt the weighty classics letterpress. Arion Press does with mixed results at high prices. The Bowler Press is in the process of printing Pride & Prejudice but may be sinking under the weight of the type. Not too many others, I'm afraid.
121folio_books
>120 jveezer: Not too many others, I'm afraid
Of course, if you want letterpress P&P or indeed the whole of Jane Austen you need look no further than the first Folio edition and the reissue of 1975. All Folios up to that time were printed letterpress.
Of course, if you want letterpress P&P or indeed the whole of Jane Austen you need look no further than the first Folio edition and the reissue of 1975. All Folios up to that time were printed letterpress.
122ultrarightist
>121 folio_books: Interesting. All Folios printed up to and including 1975 were printed letterpress, without exception?
123folio_books
>122 ultrarightist: There may have been the odd one I'm unaware of but yes, that was the general rule, proudly proclaimed in all of the prospectuses. It continued until around the mid-eighties, when they were watered down before disappearing altogether. I believe the Folio Dickens was the first series to be printed lithographically. The Folio Press/Dent reprints in the mid 70's were printed lithographically, as was the single-volume reprint of War and Peace in 1978 (which was also reduced in size, ruining the many Topolski drawings), but they are the only exceptions I can think of off the top of my head.
124ultrarightist
Thank you for the information. Good to know. I take it the original print of War and Peace with the Topolski drawings was printed letterpress.
125folio_books
>124 ultrarightist:
The original was published in 1971 (going off memory again, accuracy not guaranteed) in two volumes, larger than the 1978 edition and yes, letterpress.
I've scanned a page from the 1976 Prospectus. Apologies for the awful quality (the original .jpg was too small, I think, and this one's blown up from it). If you can read it, the paragraph headed "Methods of production" references letterpress. You might be better off going to the Wiki page and having a look at the 1976 Prospectus there (or indeed any Prospectus from that era : http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Groups:Folio_Society_Devotees
The original was published in 1971 (going off memory again, accuracy not guaranteed) in two volumes, larger than the 1978 edition and yes, letterpress.
I've scanned a page from the 1976 Prospectus. Apologies for the awful quality (the original .jpg was too small, I think, and this one's blown up from it). If you can read it, the paragraph headed "Methods of production" references letterpress. You might be better off going to the Wiki page and having a look at the 1976 Prospectus there (or indeed any Prospectus from that era : http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Groups:Folio_Society_Devotees
126ultrarightist
>125 folio_books: Thank you
127Jayked
>121 folio_books:
The earliest litho must be item #7 in Folio 60, Mademoiselle de Maupin: "The text was printed photolithographically, in a reduced format, from the Golden Cockerel Press edition (1938.) Charles Ede says in Folio 21 that 'the resulting bastard format has been found useful on a number of subsequent occasions, not least for the Shakespeare series' ".
Interestingly enough, one of the litho printers (and binders) was Mandarin Offset, Hong Kong, yep, Hong Kong, who produced
1993 The Grand Tour, Roger Hudson
1994 The Folio Diary
1994 Sir Patrick Spens
1995 The Raven, Poe
The earliest litho must be item #7 in Folio 60, Mademoiselle de Maupin: "The text was printed photolithographically, in a reduced format, from the Golden Cockerel Press edition (1938.) Charles Ede says in Folio 21 that 'the resulting bastard format has been found useful on a number of subsequent occasions, not least for the Shakespeare series' ".
Interestingly enough, one of the litho printers (and binders) was Mandarin Offset, Hong Kong, yep, Hong Kong, who produced
1993 The Grand Tour, Roger Hudson
1994 The Folio Diary
1994 Sir Patrick Spens
1995 The Raven, Poe
128affle
>124 ultrarightist:
W&P is tricky. I think it likely that only the first impression from 1971 is letterpress. The 1978 third impression is a reduced photolithographic reprint. The 1977 issue, under the Folio Press imprint, was issued only in America, and is in the reduced format, from which it may be reasonable to assume it's also a photolithographic reprint.
Just before the watershed date, in the early 70s, some earlier titles were reprinted in association with JM Dent, as Folio Press editions, and these are also photolithographic reprints. Even then cheaper production methods were being looked for, though not then in the East.
Edited to say my remark about the East was overtaken by Jayked; but the Dent books were from no wilder place than Bath.
W&P is tricky. I think it likely that only the first impression from 1971 is letterpress. The 1978 third impression is a reduced photolithographic reprint. The 1977 issue, under the Folio Press imprint, was issued only in America, and is in the reduced format, from which it may be reasonable to assume it's also a photolithographic reprint.
Just before the watershed date, in the early 70s, some earlier titles were reprinted in association with JM Dent, as Folio Press editions, and these are also photolithographic reprints. Even then cheaper production methods were being looked for, though not then in the East.
Edited to say my remark about the East was overtaken by Jayked; but the Dent books were from no wilder place than Bath.
130terebinth
>129 SF-72:
I rarely get around to deleting emails, so here's a link to the survey with Lear's Parrots etc.: https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/folio-le-research-13-titles?dm_i=4EQH,4213,1YJA... .
I rarely get around to deleting emails, so here's a link to the survey with Lear's Parrots etc.: https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/folio-le-research-13-titles?dm_i=4EQH,4213,1YJA... .
131ultrarightist
>128 affle: Thank you for the information
133InVitrio
In the box at the end, I suggested a new version of Tristram Shandy. The original edition had a hand-marbled page inserted in it. imagine them doing that again.
Plus the book is such a typographical experiment I bet a designer would love to do something different with it.
Plus the book is such a typographical experiment I bet a designer would love to do something different with it.
134ultrarightist
>133 InVitrio: A single hand-marbled page inserted like (or in lieu of) an illustration?
135kdweber
>134 ultrarightist: Chapter XXXVI "...you will no more be able to penetrate the moral of the next marbled page..."
At which point your book should have a nice marbled page like in the LEC's 1935 edition which used a unique marbled page in each copy.
At which point your book should have a nice marbled page like in the LEC's 1935 edition which used a unique marbled page in each copy.
136ultrarightist
>135 kdweber: Ah, makes sense in context.
137Willoyd
>125 folio_books:
Interesting, comparing with today's schedules, the comment about how they can do letterpress because of "the limited production programme".
Interesting, comparing with today's schedules, the comment about how they can do letterpress because of "the limited production programme".
138SF-72
> 130 terebinth
Thank you very much for the link!
I'd love the Lear, Blake or Merian and am glad I could participate. Ironically, the survey I received from FS was of no interest whatsoever to me.
I included a suggestion of Kay Nielsen's Red Magic, by the way. It's such a pity that there's been no facsimile or reprint so far, at least none I could find.
Thank you very much for the link!
I'd love the Lear, Blake or Merian and am glad I could participate. Ironically, the survey I received from FS was of no interest whatsoever to me.
I included a suggestion of Kay Nielsen's Red Magic, by the way. It's such a pity that there's been no facsimile or reprint so far, at least none I could find.
