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Centipede Press Dune

Nov 10, 2019, 12:33pm

Jerad sent out an email this morning that included this tidbit:

Dune is finally, finally, finally! heading to the printer next week. Preflight, color checks, galley checks, etc., will take some time. But we are good to go! So if you can let me know that you want me to reserve a copy.
It would also be good to know if you’re willing to settle for an unsigned copy should all of the signed ones sell out. And, finally, it is very important to know if you will be wanting the remaining books in the series (which will take some time to publish; they definitely won’t be coming all at once), or if you just want the first Dune.
Each additional book in the series will have extra bonus items: the original John Schoenherr artwork; an interview with Frank Herbert by David Wingrove; “The Road to Dune” by Frank Herbert, another essay on Dune by Herbert; perhaps the H. R. Giger Dune paintings.
Anyway, if you can let me know this week on this information, that would be ideal. It won’t be much longer. Remember, we are not taking pre-orders on this title just yet, nor is there any anticipated date to do so, although I can say late January or early to mid February would be the earliest; so, well after the holidays.

So if like me you have been impatiently waiting for this probably best to send an email now and get on the list. I would probably pass it up and stick with the fabulous FS edition of Dune except for the fact that he is going to print the whole series. I need a private press edition of God Emperor of Dune.

Edited: Nov 11, 2019, 12:36am

>1 Sorion: "I would probably pass it up and stick with the fabulous FS edition of Dune except for the fact that he is going to print the whole series."

I've been mulling this over and decided to skip this edition. Reluctantly, because the preliminary artwork is very promising. I already have the Folio edition and it's magnificent. I'm hopeful Folio will at least publish the first three books, especially with the Dennis Villeneuve adaption coming later this next year.

Nov 10, 2019, 5:59pm

>1 Sorion: Wow.

The covers are absolutely hideous. Folio's edition remains the best, IMO.

Nov 10, 2019, 8:16pm

>2 Czernobog:
Where have you seen the artwork and cover for Dune?

Nov 10, 2019, 8:20pm

Jerad just responded to my email re. price- he expects the first volume to run between $400-$500 for a signed copy. At that price I’ll have to pass, especially with his other books on the horizon, especially the William Hjortsberg set and letterpress T.E.D. Klein.

Edited: Nov 11, 2019, 7:10am

>4 SDB2012: "Where have you seen the artwork and cover for Dune?"

I found artwork using Google so it's not from an official source. You'll have to confirm with Jerad to be sure.
  1. Dune - Mark Molnar - https://www.artstation.com/artwork/xVX6m
  2. Dune Messiah - Marc Simonetti - https://marcsimonetti.artstation.com/projects/X3ZzY

Nov 11, 2019, 4:44am

>3 RATBAG.: I saw the dialogue between >4 SDB2012: and >6 Czernobog: (the covers shown in the facebook post are of the trade hardback I think, not the CP edition), but still interested in where you saw the covers. They're neither in the newsletter nor on the CP website as far as I can tell.

Nov 11, 2019, 7:10am

>7 Levin40: Correct I have deleted that part of my post to avoid confusion.

Nov 11, 2019, 11:22am

>4 SDB2012: Centipede FB page, unless they're early stage productions.

Nov 11, 2019, 11:23am

Oh, wow I did NOT see these.

Ok. I'm having second thoughts now.

How can I get my hands on it?

Nov 11, 2019, 11:24am

Do you have any links for both titles mentioned?

Peaked my curiosity with these.

Nov 11, 2019, 12:01pm

That artwork is so so enabling, but that rabbit hole .. and H.R Giger i have been a fan of since my teen

Nov 11, 2019, 12:30pm

>3 RATBAG.: RATBAG.: If you're referring to the titles I mentioned, Jerad has only discussed them in his weekly newsletters.

On T.E.D. Klein from the April newsletter:

'Children of the Kingdom by T.E.D. Klein.
Plates are made, paper has been bought, polymer plates for letterpress in the works. Honestly, probably spring 2020.'

And Hjortsberg from the September newsletter:

'Above is a look at some of the great artwork that we have commissioned for our forthcoming editions of William Hjortsberg’s Falling Angel (one of the 20 greatest horror novels of the 20th century) and its long-awaited, never-before-published sequel, Angel’s Inferno.

Ricardo Martinez, who lives in Spain, created dustjackets, endpapers, and frontispiece artworks for each book. And they are, in a word, magnificent. Also included are a number of illustrations from Alessandro Boni’s forthcoming graphic novel of Falling Angel, none of which have ever been published. Our new edition of Falling Angel contains the novel, the 1978 letter from Stephen King, the 2006 William Hjortsberg afterword, and new essays by friends of William Hjortsberg’s, plus photographs, the Boni artwork mentioned above, and a gallery of archival artwork from different paperback and hardcover editions, and the artwork that accompanied the novel when it was published by Playboy.

But the real treat is the second book. Our understanding is that William Hjortsberg was literally finishing the final revisions, on the final page of the book, when he passed away. The family has allowed Centipede Press first publication rights of this book. Both Falling Angel and Angel’s Inferno have their own signature page, with a facsimile signature by William Hjortsberg, and signatures from the artists and other contributors, as well as some amusing, slightly Satanic signatures that help make this book a real treasure.

Both books will be enclosed in a single slipcase. We are hoping for a publication date of early January 2020. More details will be coming in December.'

Unfortunately the art work is no longer available in the email. According to the email I received from Jerad yesterday, the Hjortsberg set should cost $200+.

Edited: Nov 11, 2019, 1:16pm

Found some more Marc Simonetti art for Dune Messiah (the usual disclaimer applies - not confirmed w. Jared):


This is the cover art apparently (this is not what hideous looks like >3 RATBAG.: ... - but the interior illustrations are better.)

Nov 11, 2019, 1:15pm

>6 Czernobog:
That art looks pretty great.

Nov 11, 2019, 1:18pm

>14 Czernobog: Quite true.

In my rush to Google the book, this was what I came across and I had instantly closed it.


Nov 11, 2019, 1:20pm

>13 SolerSystem: Thanks so much for all of this. I truly appreciate it!

Edited: Nov 11, 2019, 5:14pm

>14 Czernobog:
Think there's some confusion here. Dune Messiah is waaaaaaayy off and the cover could easily change. That image was also posted at least a year ago, if not two years. I have faith in Jerad but don't think we can jump to any conclusions based on preliminary art. The Brian Herbert announcement was also years ago.

I'm not sure about the Dune images. The one of Baron Harkonnen seems like a more polished version of an image I recall seeing a while ago so I'm hopeful.

Nov 12, 2019, 6:32am

Would anyone happen to know if Centipede Press has a subscription newsletter?

Nov 12, 2019, 7:19am

Yes, Jerad usually enrolls you after you buy your first book but I imagine you can also email him and ask to be enrolled.

Edited: Nov 12, 2019, 7:44am

>18 MobyRichard: Agreed - it is far from certain that the art from Mark Molnar (Dune) and Marc Simonetti (Dune Messiah) will be used because the source of this information is not Centipede Press / Jerad. That's why I added disclaimers to the links posted. However it would make sense if Dune Messiah - which I think is the second book - is already in pre-production by now.

Nov 12, 2019, 9:57am

>21 Czernobog:

I wouldn't mind at all if those are the final Dune illustrations. Except the sandworm. Too puny...:/

Nov 12, 2019, 1:27pm

I like all of the illustrations seen minus one and that is the one of Paul fighting. I particularly love the images of Stilgar and Liet and think they captured them well.

Nov 12, 2019, 5:51pm

The images shown for Dune are copyright Centipede Press. Didn't look at the other link.

Nov 13, 2019, 5:25pm

Are we looking at a December 2019 release, then?

Nov 13, 2019, 5:49pm

>25 RATBAG.: Unfortunately not. According to the newsletter pre-orders can be placed in late January or early to mid February at the earliest.

Edited: Nov 13, 2019, 6:02pm

Ah, noted. Fair, considering it is a hefty tomme.

Thank you, Czernobog!

Jan 8, 2020, 10:50pm

While we wait...

I made this for fun. :)

Art work is, of course, copyright of the artist Mark Molnar.

Jan 10, 2020, 3:05pm

Quite a talent. Love it!

Jan 10, 2020, 3:11pm

>29 NLNils: Thanks, Nils!

Jan 11, 2020, 10:13pm

>28 RATBAG.: RATBAG: Looks terrific! I just read Dune for the first time this summer. Spent forever looking for a decent copy to read from. Still not this beautiful though...

Edited: Jan 12, 2020, 12:36pm

From the latest Centipede newsletter:

“As Dune makes its way through pre-press, we are pleased to report work steams ahead on the second book of the series, Dune Messiah, with a new introduction by Gregory Benford and artwork by Marc Simonetti. The shortest of the Dune novels, this gives us an opportunity to run a complete selection of John Schoenherr’s Dune artworks: from the stories that appeared in Analog, to The Illustrated Dune, to the magnificent Dune Calendar, and more. However, we have run up against a stone wall regarding access to some of the originals. We have a small PDF that we can send which has a selection of the art and the originals we are missing. If you’d like to help, let me know. Thank you!”

Sounds promising and challenging at the same time! Who knows someone here is an "access merchant" and can help with finding and providing some of the missing original Schoenherr art.

Jan 12, 2020, 2:46pm

>31 grifgon: Hey, Griff! Thanks so much, and welcome to the forum. :)

Jan 12, 2020, 2:47pm

>33 RATBAG.: Tearing my hair out in excitement. I want to pre-order it already! Gah!

Jan 12, 2020, 3:08pm

>32 NLNils: Beat me to it!

Really looking forward to this. Jerad's commitment to the entire core series being printed is very special.

Jan 12, 2020, 3:47pm

>32 NLNils:

>35 Sorion: So, are we looking at a February preorder, gentlemen?

Jan 12, 2020, 5:01pm

>31 grifgon: Spent forever looking for a decent copy to read from

Have you seen the Folio Society edition? The chances of them releasing the whole series are VERY slim, but as far as standalone Dune goes (and personally I have no interest in the whole series) - in my opinion, this is it:


Jan 12, 2020, 5:34pm

>37 elladan0891: Why are the chances very slim?

Jan 12, 2020, 5:43pm

Ok, I'm freaking out.


Guys! Oh my God...

Edited: Jan 12, 2020, 7:17pm

>39 RATBAG.:
Great to see your enthusiasm, but this gives everyone an even greater dilemma.
Do we collect the Centipede series, FS series, or for the true fanatics, both?
And there is also the Easton Press edition!
These first world 21st. century problems are sometimes almost overwhelming!

Edited: Jan 12, 2020, 7:29pm

"Do we collect the Centipede series, FS series, or for the true fanatics, both?"

>40 wcarter: Agreed! This really shakes things up.

I REALLY want to collect both, but we already know that the CP edition will retail at $400-450, whereas the Folio edition retails at $120ish.

Plus, before I take the plunge, I need to see how the CP edition will turn out and what extras it will be offering.

The John Schoenherr illustrations for the EP editions are lovely, but I'm not the biggest fan of EP's craftsmanship...Yes, their style is unique to their brand and is near-impossible to change, but it doesn't seem that there's anything new or special these editions have to offer.

In the end, it is a matter of bonuses and extras/more bang for buck.

A very difficult decision for me, as I have not yet read Dune.

P.S.: I think Centipede's set - when fully published - will be extremely sought after...same as their and Folio's Book of The New Sun.

Edit: Jerad from CP has mentioned including John Schoenherr's art for Dune, but how dismissive it makes the EP editions, I am not sure.

Jan 12, 2020, 7:28pm

>40 wcarter: Well obviously both ;) . Seriously though I don’t expect FS to release anything beyond Dune personally. Their edition is a must have but Centipede’s series will also be a must have.

Jan 12, 2020, 7:29pm

>41 RATBAG.: You haven’t read Dune yet!? Dude stop everything else you’re doing and read it this week! Get a cheap paperback if you have too. It’s the greatest SciFi ever published.

Jan 12, 2020, 7:30pm

>42 Sorion: Why not, Sorion? I think it's silly to release the first book of any given saga or series and just give up. Taking into consideration that Dune is a consistent best-seller at Folio, it makes even more sense to go forth with it. They're doing it for Game of Thrones, so my hopes are up.

Jan 12, 2020, 7:31pm

>43 Sorion: And that's exactly why I INSIST on reading it in the best, most beautiful edition ever published. :)

But which one...?

Jan 12, 2020, 10:29pm

>39 RATBAG.: Heh, well, FS moves in mysterious ways. I'm surprised though, and, like >42 Sorion:, I'm still a little skeptical. Here are my thoughts on this: Dune is not a current pop-culture phenomenon like Harry Potter or Game of Thrones to have consistently high demand for every book in the series. Demand diminishes with every subsequent volume, plus the series is known to be uneven. And the first book stands out in particular, being distinctly iconic, with others not sharing the same status.

Here on LT 29,183 members catalogued Dune, only 5,936 catalogued Chapterhouse Dune.
On Goodreads, whopping 660,158 people rated Dune. 115,699 rated the next book, Dune Messiah, with the numbers dwindling for every subsequent book, all the way down to 43,358 for Chapterhouse Dune. I'm sure amazon's sales ratings paint similar picture.

Now, producing a few hundred copies of a limited edition of the whole series makes sense - there should be enough fans/collectors-completists to sell out. But regular Folios need to have print runs of at least a couple thousand or more, and Folio would need to be careful estimating demand and adjusting print run figures for every subsequent volume. And lately FS has been careful publishing long series, and did not hesitate to cut a series short if they thought demand was not there. But I guess they think they can still make profit on the rest of the Dune series judging by that youtube comment.

Jan 12, 2020, 10:45pm

>46 elladan0891: Would love to get my hands on a LE Dune set from Folio.

But, if I may, how would you explain the Bond series then?

Jan 12, 2020, 10:47pm

>46 elladan0891:
Very logical comment. I think that I agree with your logic.

I am already committed to Centipede Press's Dune series, as I told Jerad that I am interested in the whole series when he was trying to estimate interest in the saga.
I have not read Dune yet, and I am looking forward to enjoying the experience in the future.

Jan 13, 2020, 12:20am

>46 elladan0891: "Dune is not a current pop-culture phenomenon like Harry Potter or Game of Thrones to have consistently high demand for every book in the series."

Don't forget the movie on the way!

Jan 13, 2020, 2:06am

>45 RATBAG.: Buy the FS edition. It is amazing. It's something you should purchase anyway if you're going to collect FS books. Then buy the CP edition anyway. This is one of those books it's worth it to have both. Especially as Dune is a book you'll want to reread.

Jan 13, 2020, 8:59am

46: if Herbert were alive today, it's quite possible Dune would be milked like GoT or Potter. It still might. The first book was fabulous, the others are in my opinion simply not worth your time - there is much better science fiction to read. The first book had such vision, and the subsequent books are "what?"
Just my opinion of course! I'm still waiting for a beautiful Earthsea...

Jan 13, 2020, 10:36am

>49 RATBAG.:
The movie would have to be a smashing hit, followed by equally successful sequels. Possible? Sure, but it would take a few years. Likely? I doubt it.

Jan 13, 2020, 11:24am

>47 RATBAG.: "how would you explain the Bond series then?"

007 is different. Here the whole series is iconic and, together with movies, is a slice of pop culture. Like TGoT or Potter. And it's more or less even - people usually either like the series and read/watch multiple episodes, or dislike and skip the whole lineup. If you look at LT ratings of all Bond books, they're remarkably similar.

And if you look at LT for numbers of members who cataloged a given book, although Casino Royale seems to be more popular than others and numbers for the last couple in the series dipped, numbers for the majority of the books are very similar. There is no distinct downward curve as in the Dune series.

Jan 13, 2020, 1:00pm

>53 elladan0891: Spot-on on the numbers, just checked.

I will be going for the CP edition, then. Makes the most sense, considering all the wait.

Edited: Jan 13, 2020, 1:16pm

>51 astropi:

I wouldn't say the later books have no vision. They just subvert the vision of the first book.
In fact, the first book subverts the vision of the first book through Paul's visions of the coming jihad
which his "victory" makes possible.

Jan 13, 2020, 5:34pm

>28 RATBAG.: Very nice!

Jan 13, 2020, 5:44pm

>56 Czernobog: Many thanks!

Jan 13, 2020, 6:55pm

The Easton Press edition of Dune is very nice. It used to be fairly easy to find and affordable, but that is no longer the case.

Jan 13, 2020, 9:21pm

>58 astropi: The art looks fantastic, but the binding and the resolution of the scanned artworks plus the overall design is a deterrent.

Jan 14, 2020, 9:53am

>59 RATBAG.:

For the price, it's a great deal. Used to be a million copies out there.

Edited: Feb 16, 2020, 8:22pm

>5 SolerSystem: and everyone else:

The Centipede Press homepage has now been updated with a thumbnail of Hjortsberg's Falling Angel (New cover art)

Feb 16, 2020, 10:36am

>26 Czernobog: Unfortunately not. According to the newsletter pre-orders can be placed in late January or early to mid February at the earliest.

No mention in today’s newsletter. I’m watching it like a hawk.

Feb 16, 2020, 11:38am

Heh, me too! Incredibly excited about this edition.

Feb 16, 2020, 1:12pm

>62 NLNils:

>63 MarkHowland:

I've come to learn with CP that said month means: said months +5 months later. LOL

Feb 23, 2020, 12:28pm


nothing. :(

Feb 23, 2020, 1:01pm

>65 RATBAG.: Keep breath bated: Check.

Feb 25, 2020, 6:51am

I wouldn't hold my breath for Dune for awhile still. Last I heard is that it's coming along nicely. It's been in the works for 5 years now (not even the longest amount of time for a CP book- I know Childhood's End was about 6 years, and All Heads Turn When the Hunt Goes By was 8), but there's also a number of other high profile books that I think Jerad's focusing on first- Ramsey Campbell's Masters of the Weird Tale collection and the Hjortsberg Falling Angel/ Angel's Inferno set.

Feb 25, 2020, 10:30am

>67 SolerSystem: Also two other titles that I can't wait for any longer. :)

Mar 1, 2020, 11:25am

No news once again...

Mar 1, 2020, 11:49am

>69 NLNils: I can hear the FS Dune calling my name...beguiling me

Mar 1, 2020, 5:38pm

I'm just hoping CP is working on the other 5 books simultaneously. Otherwise could be waiting a looooong time.
Really I just want the first four anyways. I'd love to see a David Ho illustrated God Emperor of Dune.

Edited: Mar 1, 2020, 7:27pm

>71 MobyRichard: In the minority here, but I wouldn't mind not seeing David Ho on any title in the near future.

Unlikely, I know.

I mean, every (7? lol) out of 10 Centipede Press books is illustrated by him.

I realize that Jerad's margins may be thin, as with other small presses, and that there are budgeting costs to consider, and that David might be CP's 'signature artist', but I wish there was more diversity on art duties (as with Folio and Subterranean, for example).

Mar 1, 2020, 9:39pm

>67 SolerSystem: Curious, why would it take 5 years to make?

Mar 1, 2020, 10:41pm

>72 RATBAG.: The 5 volume Wagner series was illustrated by 5 different artists. The 4 Elric books out so far use 4 different artists. I have 5 CP books illustrated by Tom Kidd but only 4 titles illustrated by David Ho out of 54 CP titles in my library. Meanwhile, my 8 Bond titles from the FS all seem to be illustrated by Fay Dalton.

Mar 1, 2020, 11:45pm

>74 kdweber: IMO, it is completely justified and logical to go with one artist for the entire series (Bond), whereas having rotating artists on a series - as opposed to having them on stand-alone books - is not my cup of tea. I find that it just destroys the mood.

In the case of CP's Dune, however, I would enjoy the exception.

Mar 2, 2020, 3:20am

75: I'm actually the opposite. I prefer to have different artists which I think gives you a more varied and diverse interpretation of the books. Although, I don't mind a single artist as long as he/she are good :)

Mar 2, 2020, 6:22am

>73 RATBAG.: lots of reasons I'm sure, but the biggest probably being that Jerad is a one man operation. He's got to gauge interest first, figure out if he's doing the whole series or just the first novel. And I'm sure securing the rights to as monumental a work as Dune is no easy task. Then there's commissioning new introductions, new artwork, etc. All while working on all of his other books.

I will say his output last year was much less than in previous years, but he was also moving into a new warehouse. There's a bunch of big ticket items that have been in the works for years now that I have a feeling we'll be seeing this year. Hopefully, anyway.

Edited: Mar 2, 2020, 11:42am

>77 SolerSystem: Well-said. Fingers crossed he'll keep on delivering great books; his output over the years has been mighty impressive.

Mar 2, 2020, 2:49pm

>78 RATBAG.:

Agreed. CP is a one-man show. Amazing how big the CP catalog is.

Mar 15, 2020, 3:25pm

Corona will delay this further, methinks.

Apr 26, 2020, 12:10pm

>80 RATBAG.:

It may not be due to coronavirus, but there was a delay:

"This one has been delayed a bit because I needed to reprint the color section. That will take a little longer. Looking at August now."

It feels like forever, it's hard to not be excited about this edition!

Apr 26, 2020, 2:39pm

>81 MarkHowland: Agreed! Damn you, COVID-19.

Apr 26, 2020, 3:17pm

What I am excited about is keeping the money in my pocket for a little bit longer. :) I have just had to make a couple of expensive purchases/payments, and this delay of Dune is actually good for me.

Apr 26, 2020, 7:06pm

83> Good for all of us!

Apr 26, 2020, 9:27pm

Glad to see it delayed if that means better quality control.

Jul 5, 2020, 10:27am

From today's newsletter:

Dune is definitely (definitely?) October.

Jul 5, 2020, 10:45am

Sounds like it’s a gonna be a busy rest of the year for Jerad.

Jul 5, 2020, 7:15pm

At this point, I am planning a raid on Jerad's warehouse to grab that unbound preliminary copy of Dune and bind it myself...if it exists. :)

Aug 16, 2020, 10:23am

Another Sunday newsletter update:

Dune by Frank Herbert.
Hopefully Halloween. Very large book with a lot of detail work still to do. $495 probably.

Aug 16, 2020, 12:42pm

>89 MarkHowland: To add to that here is the entire forthcoming section of the email he sent out:

Okay, here’s a rundown of what titles are coming down the pike this fall and into February 2021. Along with that is a mention of some titles that we have recently acquired rights for. A lot of good, heavily illustrated books coming your way!

Something Wicked This Way Comes by Ray Bradbury.
End of September. The binding on this is really meticulous. $495.

Dune by Frank Herbert.
Hopefully Halloween. Very large book with a lot of detail work still to do. $495 probably.

Speaker for the Dead and Ender’s Way by Orson Scott Card.
December. Prices to be determined, but around $225 each.

The Revenge of the Rose (Elric volume 5) by Michael Moorcock.
December. $150.

Punktown Trilogy by Jeffrey Thomas.
January or February. Currently printing, this set of 3 books still needs slipcases. $225 for the set.

Nifft the Lean by Michael Shea.
Probably December. $95.

Live Girls by Ray Garton. October. $65.

A Beastly Business and Blue Octavo by John Blackburn.
Hopefully October for both. $65 each.

Dr. Futurity, The Cosmic Puppets, and Vulcan’s Hammer by Philip K. Dick.
Hopefully December for all. $95 each.

The Swords of Lankhmar by Fritz Leiber. $85. Probably February 2021.

Children of the Kingdom by T.E.D. Klein.
February 2021. Letterpress printing done. Letterpress two-color illustrations done.

Dark Star and The Director Should’ve Shot You
by Alan Dean Foster.
December for the first, May or June 2021 for the second.

The Last of Philip Banter and Devil Take the Blue-Tail Fly by John Franklin Bardin.
December or January. $60 each.

Waltz Into Darkness and the third volume of short stories by Cornell Woolrich.
January or February. $75 each.

And here’s a list of titles contracted for and in the works, but still some time off:
Ghost Story and Shadowland by Peter Straub are both in development.

The Man Who Never Was (volume 6 of collected stories) by R.A. Lafferty. February or so. We have not forgotten!

Powers of Darkness by Bram Stoker.
December 2021.

The House Next Door by Anne River Siddons.

The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe. By popular demand. All six books as standalone volumes with all new artwork in each.

The Dying Earth by Jack Vance.

Ringworld by Larry Niven.

Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune by Frank Herbert. Dune Messiah goes to the printer here in September. Hooray!

The Shockwave Rider by John Brunner. Rights just acquired.

Cold Moon Over Babylon by Michael McDowell.

The Man Who Fell to Earth by Walter Tevis.

Jack Dann and Robert Sheckley in the Masters of Science Fiction series.

Charles L. Grant and Stefan Grabinski in the Masters of the Weird Tale series.

The Thing, Phantasm, and The Omen in the Studies in the Horror Film series.

The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami. Rights just acquired.

The Club Dumas by Arturo Pérez-Reverte. Rights just acquired.

This is just a partial list of items that are nailed down with contracts. And we are still trying to get rights nailed down for Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny and Geek Love by Katharine Dunn. Man, acquisitions are taking a long time!

Edited: Aug 16, 2020, 1:30pm

>90 Sorion:

Much as I love Centipede Press and Book of the New Sun, new editions of previous "limited" editions always irk me especially as the limitation number has a HUGE impact on pricing. Whether it makes sense or not, part of what people are paying for is the rarity guarantee.

Aug 16, 2020, 1:35pm

>91 MobyRichard: Hopefully it's a new edition with a different illustrator than his previous offering. It certainly won't be signed by Gene Wolfe (well perhaps with a facsimile signature). I hope he allows people to buy the sequels (books 5 & 6) separately.

Aug 16, 2020, 2:58pm

Moorcock, Leiber, Vance. Hmmmm. Interrrrresting.

Aug 17, 2020, 10:49am

To keep this thread centered the relevant parts:

“Dune by Frank Herbert.
Hopefully Halloween. Very large book with a lot of detail work still to do. $495 probably.”

“Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune by Frank Herbert. Dune Messiah goes to the printer here in September. Hooray!”

Edited: Aug 17, 2020, 3:14pm

>94 NLNils:

If the previews we've seen here are any indication, Dune could be the SF book of the year! I'm hoping God Emperor of Dune is David Ho. No idea who would make sense for 'Children of Dune.' Out of the 6, seems to me the most difficult to illustrate by far. There's nothing specific in Children of Dune that screams out "illustrate me!"

Aug 17, 2020, 9:44pm

>90 Sorion: Do you know if the Book of the New Sun will be printed letterpress?

Aug 18, 2020, 5:30am

>96 ultrarightist: Doubtful. Children of the Kingdom will be CP's first letterpress printed book, and Jerad expects the cost to be around $700 (the story itself is only about 65 pages). I really can't see him doing the entire Book of the New Sun in letterpress format, especially since his intention was to make the series more attainable to people who missed the earlier printing.

Edited: Aug 18, 2020, 10:26am

>96 ultrarightist:
>97 SolerSystem:

I remember it was supposed to be Mountains of Madness (first CP letterpress). Jerad even sent out a prospectus. Wonder what happened there...

Aug 18, 2020, 12:26pm

>97 SolerSystem: that makes sense

>98 MobyRichard: I had forgotten about that

Aug 18, 2020, 12:31pm

>96 ultrarightist: As >97 SolerSystem: said it is extremely doubtful. Jerad is not a letterpress printer excepting apparently Children of the Kingdom.

Sep 14, 2020, 10:01am

Hey everyone. I've never bought anything from Centipede Press but I am very much interested in their upcoming editions of the Dune books. Is there a newsletter or a twitter account I should follow to learn when the book becomes available for purchase (right now it's not even listed under the forthcoming section on their home page)? Also, do you have dibs on the next book in a series if you have bought the previous one? I think that's how Subterranean Press does it. Cheers.

Sep 14, 2020, 10:21am

>101 Blakk:

You're added to the mailing list once you've become a customer. There's an email most Sundays.

Edited: Sep 14, 2020, 10:48am

>101 Blakk:

I'd be surprised if the entire print run of Dune isn't already spoken for, but maybe somebody will drop off the list? CP does sometimes offer a few unsigned/unnumbered copies of a book.

CP offers first right of refusal on some series, not all.

Sep 14, 2020, 11:14am

I believe he just has a list to include in presale the day before.i dont believe that anyone already has a reserve for the book. He then sends an email with a purchase link the saturday before the live sale to those on the list. Could be wrong though.

Edited: Sep 14, 2020, 12:27pm

So how do you get on the reserve list? You already have to be on the mailing list?

Sep 14, 2020, 1:07pm

Sep 14, 2020, 1:17pm

Thanks. I will do that.

Edited: Sep 14, 2020, 1:49pm

>104 trentsteel34:
>107 Blakk:

I kind of doubt he is sending out more links than there are buyers. At least I hope not, considering I've been corresponding with him about Dune for like 5 or 6 years :p. For series, he definitely has listed clear stipulations before that certain signed editions can only by purchased by previous signed edition buyers, with unsigned copies available for general order. Examples include the Lafferty series, Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, Elric (or whatever it's called).

Edited: Sep 14, 2020, 2:07pm

Got the following response:

"I'll be honest with you, the pre-existing customers who have signed up to be notified will get first shot. I have to take care of customers who have been buying from me for years first."

So it seems like there already is a reserve list? I'm out of luck then.

Sep 14, 2020, 2:44pm

I wouldn't count yourself out so easily. I don't have any evidence to back my hunches up but while it's hard to deny that the publication coinciding relatively closely to the film release will likely drive up demand I think Centipede, like Suntup, are mainly sought after by signature collectors. Even if all the signed ones sell before the public release it's possible none of the dedicated base who miss out on the pre-sale might not care all that much for the unsigned copies that tend follow once the signed ones are gone.

Edited: Sep 14, 2020, 3:29pm

Who will these be signed by anyway? Can't be Frank Herbert lol. But I just want the book (and the other 5). I don't care if it's signed/lettered/numbered or whatever.

Sep 14, 2020, 3:27pm

>111 Blakk: The illustrator.

Sep 14, 2020, 5:28pm

>111 Blakk:

There's always an option to purchase rights to a facsimile signature from the estate but I don't think CP paid for it. I'm sure even the facsimile Herbert signature is super pricey and would send the cost into the stratosphere.

Sep 15, 2020, 5:00am

>110 wongie: I think Centipede, like Suntup, are mainly sought after by signature collectors

I would be very surprised if this were the case. As someone who buys from both, I don't really care about signatures, it's all about the quality of the books. Also, the fact that most CP books don't even have the signature of the author speaks to that as well. I mean sure the illustrator signs but I doubt anyone would pay that much money for an illustrator signature. The latest Hjortsberg books sold out and they had only a facsimile signature. I think most signature chasers will want to buy a book that the author has actually held in their hands, as opposed to these tipped in sheets. And I am especially suspicious that anyone would pay extra money for a facsimile signature. I could be very wrong, I guess...

Edited: Sep 15, 2020, 7:23am

>111 Blakk: I wouldn't be at all surprised if Brian Herbert is signing. Then the introducer and illustrator(s).

ETA: he's certainly been involved in the production: https://www.facebook.com/brianherbertnovels/posts/there-will-be-special-centiped...

Edited: Sep 15, 2020, 7:22am

Brian Herbert's signature would probably make it less valuable lol. Man, I really hope I manage to at least get the unsigned copies of these Dune editions, would be nice to have a beautiful matching set. Are the unsigned copies any cheaper than the signed ones or does the price point remain the same?

Edited: Sep 15, 2020, 7:28am

>116 Blakk: My guess is that they'll be slightly cheaper but not much (less than $50). Occasionally unsigned versions can be far cheaper - Murakami's Kafka on the Shore, for example - but I don't think that'll be the case here.

Sep 15, 2020, 7:28am

Makes sense, producing a high quality book like this is still expensive.

Edited: Sep 15, 2020, 1:45pm

>114 filox:

I agree signature hunting is unlikely. Many of the niche authors CP publishes are long dead.

Sep 17, 2020, 10:33am

>109 Blakk:
If you ask to be included on the Sundays email list, you will know when the link to purchase Dune will be activated. You will then have the same chance as everyone else who joined the email list relatively recently.
Good luck!
I think that you have a good chance.

Sep 17, 2020, 10:47am

Have any dimensions been given for Dune? Are oversized books readable or more for show. My preference when buying a fine edition is to be able to read it comfortably. Resale is not a concern of mine. Part of my enjoyment is reading and experiencing the craftsmanship put into books. But if the books are so large that its not comfortable to read thats a drawback for me. Anyone have larger dimensioned books that they have read? I really want Dune but am worried that it will be a larger sized book like the forthcoming something wicked this way comes at i beleive 13x8. I really wanted that one but the size is too large for my bookshelf height

Sep 17, 2020, 11:15am

>121 trentsteel34:

I'm a thin dude and I've never had an issue reading oversized books up to 13 inches tall. Beyond that you can always get a book pillow.

Edited: Sep 18, 2020, 1:03pm

>120 booksforreading:

Jerad promised to add me to the mailing list and asked if I want just the first book or all 6 (would love to have all 6) so I'm hopeful.

Sep 18, 2020, 3:15pm

>121 trentsteel34:
I have many large and heavy books that I seldom pull off the shelf simply because I don’t like to sit at a table to read them. Several years ago I decided to stop buying books taller than 11 inches, and I’ve never regretted it.

Edited: Sep 19, 2020, 5:33pm

>124 jroger1:
I share your view about novels. For art and photo books however, I love my tombstone size Taschen books. SUMO size Hockney is a beast, so much detail that would be lost in smaller editions. Some XXL size ones also come at a bargain sometimes, bought Pompeii for £15!

Sep 19, 2020, 7:11pm

>125 Raenas:
I also love Taschen, from Sumo to miniature, they are a superb publisher with extraordinary variety in their titles. But Pompeii for £15 - that is amazing!

Sep 20, 2020, 1:17pm

From today’s newsletter:


Mentioning Homer, it seems only appropriate to mention Dune. Just so those of you who signed up for early notification when it goes on sale, this is a $450-$495 item. I do not want anyone to be caught off-guard by the price. So a heads-up to you all!”

Sep 20, 2020, 1:36pm

>127 NLNils:

Humph, I didn't get the newsletter.

Sep 21, 2020, 7:00pm

He may have been prompted to post that after the “Something $600 this way comes...” post which appeared on Facebook moments after the preorder announcement went out.

I believe the book was well received despite the price, as it was sold out in 48 hours with just the smaller distribution list.

Although you have to wonder whether there’s much of a difference between the membership of the general email updates and some of the book-specific distribution lists.

Oct 11, 2020, 10:36am


”Last week, we took a number of people onto the Dune reservation list. As many of you know, the Folio Society announced a deluxe edition of their Dune this last week for a whopping $695. Nothing wrong with that. Folio puts a lot of quality materials in their books and you do get what you pay for with them. There is solid value there.
In case you have been on the fence about Dune, our edition has 14 full color, hand-tipped interior illustrations, plus two illustrations in the front matter, and full-color, illustrated endsheets, and a fold-out map. The introduction is by Michael Swanwick, the artwork by Mark Molnar, and an afterword by Brian Herbert. It is signed by all three, with a facsimile signature by Frank Herbert. Each book is printed on Mohawk Superfine and is enclosed in a capped slipcase.
Below is a screen shot of the anticipated look of the slipcase spines for the books. The idea is that a sandworm will appear in each round embedded acrylic image in the case. (The images shown for future volumes are just placeholders at this point.) Thank you very much for your support of Dune!”

Oct 11, 2020, 10:41am

>130 NLNils:

Damning with faint praise lol?

Oct 11, 2020, 4:56pm

>130 NLNils:
Could you please post the photo? I asked to be on the mailing list, clearly I didn't make it.

Oct 12, 2020, 8:01pm

Oct 13, 2020, 5:57am

>133 LostStar:
Thanks a lot!

Oct 25, 2020, 6:16pm

Dune cover art is on CP website

Oct 27, 2020, 6:22am

Thanks for the heads up. I’m not really sure how I feel about it. Thoughts?

Oct 27, 2020, 9:38am

I really want a fine press set of the 6 dune novels. If the illustrations dont do it for me, then for the price tag i wont pull the trigger. Based on this one im kind of on the fence.

Oct 27, 2020, 10:30am

>137 trentsteel34: I'm in the same boat. I want 1,2,3,4,5,6 in fine press, but the Centipede Press layout is enormous, about $3000. Writing it down doesn't make it seem rational at all. Problem with the first book is the hype, thus no chance to deliberate when the pre-order goes live. I really don't know what to do at this point.

Oct 27, 2020, 10:49am

>138 NLNils: there was a facebook group post for fans of CP where it said there was 700 on the early notification list. Limitation run of 500. So yeah will need to be a quick decision.

Oct 27, 2020, 11:00am

>139 trentsteel34: if those numbers are right then >138 NLNils: I doubt you'd need to deliberate too much as there's likely to by a buyer if you decide to not keep it.

Oct 27, 2020, 11:00am

>138 NLNils: Any news when to expect the preorder announcement? I’m ambivalent to commit for similar reasons.

Oct 27, 2020, 11:05am

>141 Bacon.And.Eggs: my guess based on previous email mentioning end of october release l would guess within next week or 2. Maybe an email this week saying preorders next week. Or a surprise email this saturday am with the preorder link. Obviously pure speculation.

Oct 27, 2020, 11:05am

>137 trentsteel34: You can see (all?) Mark Molnar's illustrations for Dune, including the full cover image, here:


Personally I think they're great. Sam Weber's FS illustrations were of course excellent too, but for epic SF I do like the huge, wide-angled shots on display here.

>138 NLNils: With these illustrations and description of the book in the recent newsletter, it should be possible to form a pretty good idea of what the final product will be like, prior to the pre-order going live. We also know the approximate price tag. Yes, I too shudder at the thought of the cost of the whole set and wouldn't be able to go for it were they all to be released simultaneously. However 1) the cost will likely be spread out over 4-5 years, maybe even more knowning CP's usual delays; 2) the first book is still significantly cheaper than the FS Dune LE; 3) it may have cost you $3000 but how much is it worth? :) (I know the latter is not a factor for must of us, who would not intend to sell, but it does help to soften the blow...)

Oct 27, 2020, 11:11am

>143 Levin40: lol i dont know why i never did a google search for the artist. Thank you!

Oct 27, 2020, 11:29am

I think the art fits wonderfully and will be as on the ball as I can possibly be to get this ordered as soon as the link drops.

>143 Levin40: How much is it worth is an interesting question. Looking at one specific series(urth) I would say at minimum it would be worth cost by the time publication is over. Purely due to the popularity of Dune and the lack of better press publications of the series.

Oct 27, 2020, 4:06pm

>142 trentsteel34: I don't think preorders will be that soon. Jared mentioned in an email we're looking at December.

Edited: Oct 27, 2020, 4:17pm

>136 NLNils:

I have to admit the cover art is disappointing. It's the one illustration I just don't like at all out of those posted online. It would probably work if it was just the sandworm without the anime "badass" in the foreground.

And I still have faith in Jerad, but I don't agree with 700 on a list to buy a 500 copy print run. There's no way 200+ people are going to drop out, but there is a real risk of resellers beating out fans who have been with CP for years...

Oct 28, 2020, 12:58am

>139 trentsteel34:

Jerad told me that there are 500 signed and 300-400 unsigned copies. So if only 700 people are on the list then it seems I have a good chance at getting one of the unsigned copies. yay.

Edited: Oct 28, 2020, 1:17am

Thank you to all who commented! I had another look at the illustrations by Molnàr, so kindly reposted by >143 Levin40: and the cover is also my least favorite out of all of them. It seems unhinged, or too much going on. So, in agreement with >147 MobyRichard:.

The cost being spread over several years helps, makes it more palatable (just). I would not want to sell, but it’s a comforting idea you can likely recoup your investment if need be. The problem are the resellers who have no intention of owning the books for actual reading, but just for the flip. In agreement again with >147 MobyRichard:. It could lead to increased pricing while the books are in print.

I didn’t buy the Dune LE from Folio as I have the original visionary SE. If it were any other book/series than Dune, I wouldn’t bother.

I do have a clearer perspective now on whether to buy or pass on the book (within my control). I will buy the first one and only continue adding the rest if I like it.

Oct 29, 2020, 11:03pm

Hi everyone,

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I've been in contact with Jerad since September and I'd like to share the insights he gave me:

Hopefully early December?

On Sep 29, 2020, at 7:06 AM, *** wrote:

Great, thank you. Any idea when you’ll start taking preorder on it?



From: Jerad Walters
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 8:55 AM
To: ***
Subject: Re: Centipede Press September newsletter.

Yes, printed in two colors throughout. They are signed and numbered books, with a facsimile signature by Frank Herbert. They are signed by artist Mark Molnar, introducer Michael Swanwick, and Brian Herbert.

There is one fold-out map illustration, 14 hand-tipped four-color illustrations, two illustrations for the endpapers (one front, one back), a title page illustration, an illustration for the introduction (making it 16 interior illustrations total), plus a different illustration for the dustjacket.

The book is bound in printed cloth, wrapped in a dustjacket, and then enclosed in a capped slipcase.

Nov 23, 2020, 4:46am

"Our specialized bindery, which is currently working on Dune, also has scheduled the slipcases for Speaker for the Dead and Ender’s Way, slipcases for our three volume Punktown set. In the meantime, we wait, and wait, and wait…Absolutely no firm ideas on when these will be up for pre-order, and there are no pre-order lists being made yet, but watch the newsletter for more information on when I am starting these lists."

A short note on Dune in yesterday's newsletter, but a bit confusing to me. At printer but in the wind as to preorder, or the latter titles are windy. I grasp that the December deadline is shifting and we might have to wait until 2021.

Edited: Dec 13, 2020, 11:28am

“Dune - Frank Herbert. End of February. $500.”

From the latest newsletter.

Mar 12, 11:02pm

The anticipation is killing me. A few years ago I probably wouldn't be too bothered, and I've been lurking, waiting patiently. Seems like CP has grown in popularity and Dune being the most anticipated title, one gets the feeling that one needs to be on their toes. I passed on the FS edition in favour of CP, but its going to really suck if I strike out on both.

Mar 13, 3:11am

Latest word is that due to the backlog at printers and bookbinders, we're looking at mid-April at the earliest. Also, last I heard, the price is going to be at least $600.

Edited: Mar 13, 5:42pm

I wouldn't mind the longer wait for Dune if the slowdowns weren't also impacting all the other books I was excited for early this year- Philip K. Dick, T.E.D. Klein, Samuel Delany, Alan Dean Foster...

Apr 6, 9:10pm

>155 SolerSystem:
I think I'm waiting for most of those too. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for April but he only mentioned the Woolrich waitlist in the last newsletter so that'll probably be first.

Edited: Apr 9, 4:02am

Anyone have any updates on Dune? I've a feeling it's not going to be this month now. I contacted Jerad a week or so back (for another reason) and he mentioned that the PKD set should be ready in an end April/early May timeframe.

Apr 9, 7:01am

>157 Levin40: Nope, but I'll be honest, when the update was posted to the Facebook group re. a mid-April release I pretty much took it to mean more likely May or June.

I have a feeling there's gonna be a pretty considerable delay for a lot of the books that were supposed to come out early this year. The PKD set was initially expected late last year, so I imagine we won't see the books that were expected after- Nova, Children of the Kingdom, etc.- until summer at the earliest.

Glad to hear about PKD though, looking forward to those.

Apr 9, 6:52pm

Could I ask what these Centipede PKD books are?

Apr 9, 8:07pm

>159 TheRingshifter: It’s a set of 3 early Philip K. Dick novels- The Cosmic Puppets, Vulcan’s Hammer, and Dr. Futurity

Apr 10, 5:14am

Stupid question...how often do they release new books and how does one find out when they’re released? Their website doesn’t seem to have much info.

Edited: Apr 10, 9:00am

He provides lots of information and updates in his weekly newsletter that goes out on Sundays. You should be able to sign up on the website. If not, you can email him and ask to be added.

Apr 10, 5:35pm

That probably is the best way to stay up on things. When I was first looking to sign up, I couldn't find any way to get on it on the website. At which point I emailed him to get on it....which also did not work. It wasn't until I bought something that I got on it. However, I suspect it was just an accident and he missed my email. Shooting him a message asking to get on it should work.

Apr 11, 12:47am

>161 RRCBS: There's no sign-up on their website. You have to email jerad-AT-centipedepress.com and ask to be added to the newsletter list. The newsletters show up on Sunday mornings most weeks.

Jun 27, 12:41am

Has there been any update on the Centipede Press Dune? I've emailed, and Jerad asked me if I was interested in the series, but I've never received another email from them. I'm assuming that those of you who receive regular communications may know more. I see Dune is included in the upcoming Centipede Press releases, but no details.


Jun 27, 4:48am

From the last newsletter back on the 13th of June:

"We are told that Dune will be ready for delivery around the end of July or first week of August. As you know, I don’t do pre-orders anymore until I am told that they are on the truck and on the way over here!"

Jun 27, 9:03pm

This is the updated DUNE FAQ on the Announcement page of the Centipede Press Facebook group:

This is updated FAQ list regarding the upcoming release.

- Dune will be published in July with Dune Messiah coming December 2021. All Binderies are behind and struggling with labor shortages so please be patient and understanding.
Preorders will start mid to late July at the earliest so its perfect time to chill and have a drink while waiting.

- There will be 500 signed copies and 300 unsigned. Price around $600 but subject to change. Unsigned might be less depending on how fancy the slipcase is.

- If you are inquiring just now, you are not guaranteed to get signed or unsigned edition but you will be added to the cancellation list

- Please email Jerad - jerad@centipedepress.com - with your name and address adding "Dune Wait List" in subject line. This part is important as chances are by then some of the folks will change their mind and spots will open up.

- You dont have to buy Book 2 and future installments but you will lose your number if you sell Book One on secondary market.

- All people on the main list (and list after that one) will be notified via email with a pre-order link when its time.

- About the edition. It will have 14 full color, hand-tipped interior illustrations, plus two illustrations in the front matter, and full-color, illustrated endsheets, and a fold-out map. The introduction is by Michael Swanwick, the artwork by Mark Molnar, and an afterword by Brian Herbert. 500 copies will be signed by all three, with a facsimile signature by Frank Herbert. Each book is printed on Mohawk Superfine and is enclosed in a capped slipcase.

Jun 27, 11:44pm

>166 wongie:, >167 paperandinkguy:, Thank you for the information. I requrest a couple off years back to be added to the email list from this, but beside the initial response asking if I was interested in all the books in the series (which I indicated I was), I never heard anything more back.

Jun 28, 6:54am

>167 paperandinkguy:, >168 hamletscamaro:

I have a similar story. Does that suggest that we are not on the main list?

Jun 30, 3:58pm

Comparing the illustrations of the published FS and forthcoming Centipede editions of Dune, I prefer the latter.

Jul 4, 8:42am

>170 ultrarightist: Give me both.

Jul 4, 12:23pm

>171 NLNils: If you had to choose one, which would you choose?