Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’. Everyone agrees, right?
Talk Pro and Con
Join LibraryThing to post.
2cpg
Since these reports have come out, I've been thinking about a great line of cinema that Trump's alleged remarks might be considered back-handed counterparts of: "Where do we get such men . . ." from the The Bridges at Toko-Ri.
(Link is low-resolution, out-of-sync YouTube. Sorry about that.)
(Link is low-resolution, out-of-sync YouTube. Sorry about that.)
3davidgn
Meanwhile, what is this shitshow?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/09/04/trump-and-stars-and-stripes-at...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/04/trump-said-his-administr...
The immediate Trump countermanding: staged compensatory drama?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/09/04/trump-and-stars-and-stripes-at...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/04/trump-said-his-administr...
The immediate Trump countermanding: staged compensatory drama?
4Carnophile
The story is false. Against the Atlantic's alleged four anonymous sources, there are eight - not anonymmous - sources with firsthand knowledge who say it's false.
5JGL53
> 4
Plus, it just doesn't sound like the t-rump that we all know. Why, he has never said ANYTHING disrespecting military service in his life, right Carno?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=541Cg2Jnb8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlJL-hEiA2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE7IAPsW9oc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Koe1d1H9MUg
You are a shitty apologist, Carno. lol.
Plus, it just doesn't sound like the t-rump that we all know. Why, he has never said ANYTHING disrespecting military service in his life, right Carno?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=541Cg2Jnb8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlJL-hEiA2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE7IAPsW9oc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Koe1d1H9MUg
You are a shitty apologist, Carno. lol.
6kiparsky
>4 Carnophile: I love that they let the intern lead the press response these days... presumably they couldn't find anyone qualified who was willing to take that seat after they saw what Spicer and Huckabee were forced to do...
7MsMixte
Donald Trump confirms that he lied:
Trump claims he "called home, I spoke to my wife and I said 'I hate this. I came here to go to that ceremony.' And to the one that was the following day which I did go to. I said I feel terribly. And that was the end of it."
Facts First: Melania Trump was on the same trip with the President and was scheduled to attend the cemetery visit. She was not in the US.
A readout from the first lady's office at the time said that "Due to inclement weather, the First Lady and President were unable to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery and Memorial in Belleau, France."
That evening, Trump and Melania went to a dinner together hosted by French President Emmanuel Macron.
Trump claims he "called home, I spoke to my wife and I said 'I hate this. I came here to go to that ceremony.' And to the one that was the following day which I did go to. I said I feel terribly. And that was the end of it."
Facts First: Melania Trump was on the same trip with the President and was scheduled to attend the cemetery visit. She was not in the US.
A readout from the first lady's office at the time said that "Due to inclement weather, the First Lady and President were unable to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery and Memorial in Belleau, France."
That evening, Trump and Melania went to a dinner together hosted by French President Emmanuel Macron.
8lriley
#3--Trump has a history of wrongfooting even the most non-controversial stuff--sticking his nose into every corner and not understanding anything except through the lens of 'what do I get out of it?'
9JGL53
> 7
All the other world leaders present went to the ceremony so I guess the rain was not that bad.
Trump said exactly what was reported that he said. Anyone who doubts the fact is either a fool or a lying t-rump operative himself.
- From foxx news, which conservatives are supposed to believe without question - here is the video that presents the fact, in no uncertain terms, of what a lying scumbag t-rump truly is. He is an anti-military, anti-American traitor, and a filthy god damn liar.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-former-senior-trump-administration-212750071.html
(So where did the Russian bot Carnophile go - is he down temporarily while his programmers reboot him? lol.)
All the other world leaders present went to the ceremony so I guess the rain was not that bad.
Trump said exactly what was reported that he said. Anyone who doubts the fact is either a fool or a lying t-rump operative himself.
- From foxx news, which conservatives are supposed to believe without question - here is the video that presents the fact, in no uncertain terms, of what a lying scumbag t-rump truly is. He is an anti-military, anti-American traitor, and a filthy god damn liar.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-former-senior-trump-administration-212750071.html
(So where did the Russian bot Carnophile go - is he down temporarily while his programmers reboot him? lol.)
10davidgn
>9 JGL53: Well, you'll have to tar and feather Greenberg then. https://theintercept.com/2020/09/05/journalisms-new-propaganda-tool-using-confir...
11lriley
I kind of can imagine it this way:
'Donald, it's time to go to the cemetery.'
'But, I already went to the cemetery.'
'You know there's another one.'
'But I don't wanna. It's all just a bunch of dumb stones.'
'Donald, you know you have to go.'
'No....you can't make me.'
'Donald, everyone else is going. It will be noticed if you're not there. They will write mean stories about you in the press.'
'But that's not fair.....and besides it's raining.'
'We have umbrellas Donald. It will be be good for you to get some fresh air.'
'But I can play golf instead. I can get fresh air that way.'
'But this is important Donald. To honor the Marine Corps veterans who died at Belleau Wood in World War I. Everyone--all the world's leaders are going to be there to honor our soldiers.'
'But they were nothing but a bunch of suckers and losers. You can't make me go. I'm not going when it's raining out.'
'Donald you know you have to go.'
'Get out'.
'Donald'.
'I said.....get out!'
'Donald, it's time to go to the cemetery.'
'But, I already went to the cemetery.'
'You know there's another one.'
'But I don't wanna. It's all just a bunch of dumb stones.'
'Donald, you know you have to go.'
'No....you can't make me.'
'Donald, everyone else is going. It will be noticed if you're not there. They will write mean stories about you in the press.'
'But that's not fair.....and besides it's raining.'
'We have umbrellas Donald. It will be be good for you to get some fresh air.'
'But I can play golf instead. I can get fresh air that way.'
'But this is important Donald. To honor the Marine Corps veterans who died at Belleau Wood in World War I. Everyone--all the world's leaders are going to be there to honor our soldiers.'
'But they were nothing but a bunch of suckers and losers. You can't make me go. I'm not going when it's raining out.'
'Donald you know you have to go.'
'Get out'.
'Donald'.
'I said.....get out!'
12proximity1
Regular readers and regular voters, seeing and thinking about such scandalous slanders and libels perpetrated by Democrats, are going to reflect, recall and, going to the polls in November, KICK the FUCKING Lying DEMOCRATs' and their asshole Media-sycophants' asses, voting to re-elect Trump.
Better get planning your next set of lying, bullshit illegal strategies to get rid of him and better start thinking and planning effectively because your efforts up to this point have looked like the idiotically foolish failures which they have been.
No one outside the bubble which already loathes Trump believes he said any such thing about the military of which, Constitutionally, he's the commander-in-chief during wartime.
The allegation was idiotically stupid in its conception and only desperate fools such as are today's Democrats, should ever have floated such absurd nonsense.
People see you for exactly that which you are.
Better get planning your next set of lying, bullshit illegal strategies to get rid of him and better start thinking and planning effectively because your efforts up to this point have looked like the idiotically foolish failures which they have been.
No one outside the bubble which already loathes Trump believes he said any such thing about the military of which, Constitutionally, he's the commander-in-chief during wartime.
The allegation was idiotically stupid in its conception and only desperate fools such as are today's Democrats, should ever have floated such absurd nonsense.
People see you for exactly that which you are.
13margd
It's almost impossible to believe he exists.
It's as if we took everything that was bad about America,
scraped it up off the floor,
wrapped it all up in an old hot dog skin, and
then taught it to make noises with its face.
- Anthony Citrano @acitrano | 7:54 PM · Sep 7, 2020
It's as if we took everything that was bad about America,
scraped it up off the floor,
wrapped it all up in an old hot dog skin, and
then taught it to make noises with its face.
- Anthony Citrano @acitrano | 7:54 PM · Sep 7, 2020
14Carnophile
#5, 6, 7, 9, 11. "Waaaaaah! Four alleged anonymous sources versus eight open sources! My narrative! My naaaaaaaarrrrrrrraaaatiiiiiiiiiiive!"
>12 proximity1: Regular readers and regular voters, seeing and thinking about such scandalous slanders and libels perpetrated by Democrats, are going to reflect, recall and, going to the polls in November, KICK the FUCKING Lying DEMOCRATs' and their asshole Media-sycophants' asses, voting to re-elect Trump.
From your lips to God's ears, Prox.
>12 proximity1: Regular readers and regular voters, seeing and thinking about such scandalous slanders and libels perpetrated by Democrats, are going to reflect, recall and, going to the polls in November, KICK the FUCKING Lying DEMOCRATs' and their asshole Media-sycophants' asses, voting to re-elect Trump.
From your lips to God's ears, Prox.
15Carnophile
Everyone here should reflect on this chilling new development, by the way: The battle is no longer solely for the minds of the voters.
It's now also for the allegiance of the praetorians.
It's impossible to miss where this is heading.
It's now also for the allegiance of the praetorians.
It's impossible to miss where this is heading.
16lriley
Apart from John Bolton who is probably trying to suck up for another job with the Trump administration I'm not sure who the other 7 open sources are. Melania? I don't see how her opinion would matter more than say a foreign born Mexican or Palestinian (she's not really 'Merican is she?).....and it's not like these 8 including Bolton were with Trump 100% of the time.
......but isn't it fun Carno to be continually defending this numbskull against attacks from every angle? It's not fair---waah, waah, waah, waah, waah. No one's giving him a chance. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They wouldn't do this to Hillary or Barack. LOL! This dopey fuck of yours with the cocaine nose and the orange-ish makeup too stupid to realize when you go after the national press---the national press goes after you. Is it all a lie?--actually it sounds exactly like something that Donald would say. Maybe though. This Goldberg certainly is a dodgy character. Though when you spread lies yourself--like Trump did with the birther shit--here's karma coming back at you and there's no doubt at all that Trump moved heaven and earth to avoid answering his country's call during the Vietnam War---didn't he? This dopey fuck of yours with the cocaine nose and the orange-ish makeup thinking that the one half + of the population that doesn't like him or hates him is just going to go away. LOL at any politician who is too stupid to realize there aren't going to be loads of people out to get them---that's one of the reasons why they band together in cliques and batten down the hatches in DC.
......but isn't it fun Carno to be continually defending this numbskull against attacks from every angle? It's not fair---waah, waah, waah, waah, waah. No one's giving him a chance. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They wouldn't do this to Hillary or Barack. LOL! This dopey fuck of yours with the cocaine nose and the orange-ish makeup too stupid to realize when you go after the national press---the national press goes after you. Is it all a lie?--actually it sounds exactly like something that Donald would say. Maybe though. This Goldberg certainly is a dodgy character. Though when you spread lies yourself--like Trump did with the birther shit--here's karma coming back at you and there's no doubt at all that Trump moved heaven and earth to avoid answering his country's call during the Vietnam War---didn't he? This dopey fuck of yours with the cocaine nose and the orange-ish makeup thinking that the one half + of the population that doesn't like him or hates him is just going to go away. LOL at any politician who is too stupid to realize there aren't going to be loads of people out to get them---that's one of the reasons why they band together in cliques and batten down the hatches in DC.
17kiparsky
It's entertaining to see people acting as though the number of anonymous sources that the intern claims they have is the crucial thing. "Oh, they've got four, we'll say we have eight!".
The thing that matters is the credibility of the claim. Goldberg has a track record, and has earned a lot of credibility. The intern? She's a straight-up liar. Anyone believing anything that comes out of this white house's press office is an idiot.
The thing that matters is the credibility of the claim. Goldberg has a track record, and has earned a lot of credibility. The intern? She's a straight-up liar. Anyone believing anything that comes out of this white house's press office is an idiot.
18lriley
#17--not sure if I put a whole lot of credibility in Goldberg's track record but for now it serves a purpose. When I'm at the point where I'm voting for someone like Biden who I absolutely loathe everything else turns into pretty much whatever. Is it a pack of lies?--I guess there's the possibility but I'll let Q'Anon sort that out for their 'elect' like Carnophile. Having listened to Trump over the last few years over and over again I think the comments he's been accused of making about WWI era United States Marines wouldn't shock me at all--sounds like shit he would say anyway.
19kiparsky
>18 lriley: If I'm honest, I would worry about the idea of accepting facts based on your personal preferences. If you think Goldberg is not credible, then you should question this story, since it rests entirely on his credibility.
Believing things to be true because they're convenient for your world-view is no more helpful for you than it is for Carny.
Believing things to be true because they're convenient for your world-view is no more helpful for you than it is for Carny.
20lriley
#19--when did I say I accepted as fact what Goldberg wrote? I said I thought it was very possible Trump said what he alleges but I don't really care. Getting rid of Trump is simply getting rid of a criminal and fascist would be dictator. Putting Biden in his place is putting back in place the same failed policies that led to Trump in the first place but at least there's a possibility of going somewhere positive from there then. If you don't look at stories written from the mainstream press with some cynicism that's your issue but no I don't find Fox or Breitbart or OAN as trustworthy but I don't find MSNBC, CNN, NYT, the Washington Post trustworthy either though the ones on the right are worse. Basically though they all shill for the political establishment.
21JGL53
Draft-dodging coward t-rump publicly dissed John McCain - on several occasions. Why would anyone doubt the draft-dodging coward didn't also diss all military people as suckers and losers?
Add this to the list of t-rump insanity:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/president-trump-silence-covid-cases-deaths-americ...
t-rump is a piece of shit. So are the people who suck his tiny little dick.
You know who you are.
Add this to the list of t-rump insanity:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/president-trump-silence-covid-cases-deaths-americ...
t-rump is a piece of shit. So are the people who suck his tiny little dick.
You know who you are.
22JGL53
More god damn Democrat/Lame Stream Media lies, I suppose:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-called-the-generals-under-his-comm...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-called-the-generals-under-his-comm...

