SandDune reads in 2024 - Part 1

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SandDune reads in 2024 - Part 1

1SandDune
Edited: Dec 31, 2023, 2:31 pm

Welcome to my first thread of 2024 and to my thirteenth year doing the 75 Book Challenge. I'm a 62 year old accountant and, after spending most of my career in the City of London, I was until recently the Finance Manager of a local charity which provides support to children and adults with learning disabilities. But at the beginning of 2021 I retired and my husband (aka Mr SandDune) also started working part-time. We live about thirty miles north of London although retirement may take us elsewhere in the U.K. Our 23 year old son Jacob finished studying history at the University of Lancaster in the summer of 2023 and has now moved in with his long-term girlfriend Caroline, although he is home fairly frequently. We have an 11 year old (although still fairly lively) Staffordshire Bull Terrier called Daisy, who I talk about a lot.

2023 was a difficult year at times, as we adjusted to my mother’s worsening dementia, and dealt with the practicalities of moving her into a care home and disposing of her flat, which required numerous journeys down to South Wales. I’m hoping 2024 might run a little smoother.

I'm originally from Wales rather than England, so I do have an interest in all things Welsh and I tend to get huffy if people call me English rather than Welsh! I'm currently studying a third year Welsh course after passing my second year exams in the summer, and it’s requiring more and more dedication.

I read mainly literary fiction, classics, science-fiction and fantasy As far as non-fiction goes I’m interested in a number of topics, in particular books about the environment and nature. I’m also starting to read books in Welsh, although still only ones designed for learners at the moment.

All my family are avid readers. Jacob has inherited a love of reading science-fiction and fantasy from me and a love of reading history from Mr SandDune so our books are frequently shared. I read hardbacks, paperbacks, on kindle and listen to audio books particularly when driving or walking the dog.

Apart from reading I love travelling, eating out, and going to the theatre. Since my retirement I've been enjoying craft activities, particularly crochet. I dabble in family history from time to time as well. I'm also getting more and more concerned about environmental issues: I'm a member of the local Green Party and have been quite involved in campaigning on climate change.

5Caroline_McElwee
Dec 31, 2023, 4:33 pm

>4 SandDune: I thought In Memoriam very fine Rhian.

I hope 2024 will be a good vintage for you.

6richardderus
Dec 31, 2023, 5:37 pm

As I said on my thread, Rhian, Blwyddyn Newydd Dda!

7drneutron
Dec 31, 2023, 7:27 pm

Welcome back, Rhian!

8quondame
Dec 31, 2023, 7:33 pm

Hi Rhian!

Wishing you a great one!

9katiekrug
Jan 1, 2024, 12:23 am

Happy new year, Rhian!

10vancouverdeb
Jan 1, 2024, 12:25 am

Happy New Year, Rhian!

11charl08
Edited: Jan 1, 2024, 6:48 am

Hi Rhian, Happy new year. Your book group's plans sound very varied for 2024 - I've not read any of them, so anticipate some books being added to my wishlist. I'll be following your reading for 2024.

12PaulCranswick
Jan 1, 2024, 6:52 am

Happy new year Rhian to you, A & J.

>2 SandDune: Your first read is up early for me this year and your enthusiasm for it give me high hopes.

13karenmarie
Jan 1, 2024, 10:36 am

Happy New Year, Rhian, and happy first thread of 2024.

14Donna828
Jan 1, 2024, 11:32 am

Happy New Year, Rhian. I really admire your goal to read more books in the Welsh language. Good luck with that!

I’m sorry that you are dealing with dementia as your mother ages. I’ve been through that and know how difficult it is. Wishing you patience in the months ahead.

15ChelleBearss
Jan 1, 2024, 12:00 pm

Happy New Year and new thread! Hope 2024 is kind to you

16SandDune
Jan 1, 2024, 12:40 pm

We’ve been having a busy couple of days over the New Year. We came into London yesterday morning to stay in my sister’s flat for a couple of nights Yesterday afternoon we saw the RSC production of Hamnet at the Garrick theatre. I’d rate it as a good production, but not earth-shattering. (Incidentally, I give the prizes to my favourite theatre productions this years to ‘Dear England’ and ‘Best of Enemies’ with ‘Guys and Dolls’ getting the prize for being the most fun’.) And then we watched the New Year’s Eve fireworks from the balcony at midnight:



This morning we did a guided walk around the City of London about the history of the East India Company. Really interesting - I was a bit worried that it would go to lots of places that I was familiar with, considering I worked in the City for years, but it didn’t at all. And then this afternoon we visited the National Portrait Gallery which has recently been refurbished. Now back in the flat feeling slightly exhausted, but out to eat dumplings at Ping Pong across the road later.

17laytonwoman3rd
Jan 1, 2024, 12:42 pm

>16 SandDune: What a nice way to spend the New Year holiday, Rhian.

Last night we watched an old episode of Midsomer Murders, much of which was set in Wales...it made me think of you, and your learning the language. I am beyond impressed with that.

18SandDune
Jan 1, 2024, 12:58 pm

>7 drneutron:, >9 katiekrug:, >10 vancouverdeb: >13 karenmarie: >15 ChelleBearss: Welcome Jim, Katie, Karen, Chelle! Happy New Year to you as well!

>5 Caroline_McElwee: In Memoriam is one I’m definitely looking forward to.

>6 richardderus: Blwyddyn Newydd Dda i ti hefyd, Richard!

>7 drneutron: Love the penguins!

>11 charl08: >12 PaulCranswick: We don’t have any rules for our book group choices. Each member picks what they want, the only rule being that it must be out in paperback. There is sometimes some grumbling if someone picks a very long book but it means we usually get a fairly varied choice.

>14 Donna828: My aim for my Welsh learning is to be able to read an adult novel in Welsh. Despite the fact that it is a minority language there is a reasonable amount of Welsh literature published.

This is the first time that I’ve had to deal with dementia in my close family (or Mr SandDune’s come to that) so it’s been a learning curve. But she’s in a good home.

19SandDune
Jan 1, 2024, 1:01 pm

>17 laytonwoman3rd: I actually find Welsh a lot easier than French, for example. I can certainly pick up on spoken Welsh a lot better. But the Celtic languages certainly have a lot of idiosyncrasies not seen in other European languages which can be … fun?

20Caroline_McElwee
Jan 1, 2024, 3:08 pm

>16 SandDune: Sounds like a great New Year Rhian. I agree totally with your assessment of the RSC Hamnet.

21SandDune
Jan 1, 2024, 3:57 pm

I forgot that our book club is also reading the Women’s prize 2023 shortlist, so I have added those up above

22alcottacre
Jan 1, 2024, 4:54 pm

>2 SandDune: I have read both of the Rosemary Sutcliff books and The Dutch House, but the others are unfamiliar to me so I will have to see if I can find copies of them. Thanks for sharing your list, Rhian!

Happy New Year! Happy New Thread! I wish you all the best in 2024.

23AMQS
Jan 1, 2024, 8:28 pm

Happy New Year, Rhian! Your New Years Eve in London sounds just wonderful.

24msf59
Jan 1, 2024, 9:07 pm

Happy New Year, Rhian. Have a safe & healthy 2024. I thought both Black Butterflies & Trespasses were excellent. Enjoy!

25EBT1002
Jan 1, 2024, 10:57 pm

Hi Rhian and Happy New Year! I hope to follow your reading adventures a bit more closely this year with all my newfound free time!

Also, just hoping 2024 is better all around than 2024.

26Berly
Jan 1, 2024, 11:21 pm



And Happy New Year!! I like you plan to read the Women's Shortlist -- I have a few to go from that. : )

27Tess_W
Jan 2, 2024, 1:10 am

I envy your ability to crochet! Good luck with your 2024 reading.

28SandDune
Jan 2, 2024, 4:07 am

>22 alcottacre: O Caledonia is the book that I am pressing on all my friends and acquaintances at the moment. It’s quite special (in my opinion).

>23 AMQS: It was really nice to see the fireworks. We’ve done it before, but not since pre-Covid.

>24 msf59: I actually read Black Butterflies last year and enjoyed it, as we did it for our last book club read before Christmas. Our group has also read Trespasses but I missed that meeting as I was on the cruise, so I will have to catch up with that. Mr SandDune said it was excellent.

>25 EBT1002: I hope you enjoy your retirement too Ellen. Work seems quite a long time ago now.

>26 Berly: We read the shortlist last year as well, and to be honest I didn’t think it was the greatest one in the world. But I have much more hopes for this year’s shortlist.

>27 Tess_W: I only learnt to crochet in 2021. I think I had learnt the basic stitches when I was about 10 or 11, but I didn’t remember them at all. Now I feel quite lost without something to be crocheting.

29ursula
Jan 2, 2024, 4:28 am

Hello and happy new year! I'm a crocheter too (and knitter). My nonna taught me how to crochet when I was a kid, and my daughter recently realized she wishes she'd responded better to me trying to teach her when she was young, haha. For now she's learning to knit.

30FAMeulstee
Jan 2, 2024, 7:39 am

Happy reading in 2024, Rhian!

31BLBera
Jan 2, 2024, 8:17 am

Happy New Year, Rhian. Your New Year's celebration sounds great. I hope 2024 is a good year for you and yours.

32arubabookwoman
Jan 2, 2024, 8:40 am

I've had O Caledonia on my Kindle for ages (probably years) and I've clicked on it several times but never actually got to the point of starting it. Looks like it's one I should get to sooner rather than later, and since I'm trying to read more of my own books, maybe this will be the year!

33SandDune
Jan 3, 2024, 3:38 am

We’re back home now, as of last night. Yesterday morning we went to the Wellcome Collection. An exhibition on ‘The Cult of Beauty’ was interesting, but to be honest we found the other exhibitions a bit long in aesthetics and a bit short on information. In the afternoon we met up with Jacob and Caroline to see the ‘Fantasy: Worlds of the Imagination’ exhibition at the British Library, which was much more interesting. We went out for an early evening meal in Strada on the South Bank and then both headed home.

And in the process I managed to buy my first three books of the year:

The Discomfort of Evening by Marieke Lucas Rijneveld and Thirsty Animals by Rachelle Atalla in the Wellcome Collection shop and Realms of imagination: Essays from the Wide Worlds of Fantasy, (the companion book to the exhibition) in the British Library.

34Caroline_McElwee
Jan 3, 2024, 3:49 am

>33 SandDune: Sounds nearly perfect Rhian.

35figsfromthistle
Jan 3, 2024, 7:53 am

>16 SandDune: Sounds like a great day and equally fun night.

36richardderus
Jan 3, 2024, 9:58 am

>33 SandDune: On balance a fine day out! Any day ending with new books is a positive one, to me at least. The fantasy exhibition sounds like one I'd've loved to see...anything by Arthur Rackham on view that you can recall?

Happy Wednesday.

37SandDune
Jan 3, 2024, 10:09 am

>34 Caroline_McElwee: >35 figsfromthistle: It was nice we were able to meet up with Jacob and Caroline. Jacob had a (routine) hospital appointment on the Tuesday morning so he had intended to see the British Library exhibition after that. And we had originally planned to be in London from Saturday to Monday, but we decided to rearrange so we would all be there together.

>36 richardderus: I don't recall there was anything by Arthur Rackham to be honest. They had some Alice through the Looking Glass illustrations, but they were done by Mervyn Peake.

38ChrisG1
Jan 3, 2024, 12:05 pm

Happy New Year & new thread!

39SandDune
Jan 3, 2024, 12:14 pm

Happy New Year to you too!

40Sakerfalcon
Edited: Jan 3, 2024, 1:18 pm

Happy New Year Rhian! Looking forward to following your reading again!

>33 SandDune: I really enjoyed the BL's Fantasy exhibition! I went with my friend and my 11 year old goddaughter and we all had a great time.

41avatiakh
Jan 3, 2024, 4:53 pm

Happy New Year Rhian.
I was in London briefly last year to visit my daughter but we left just before the BL exhibition on fantasy was opening. We did get in a visit to the National Portrait Gallery.
We managed a quick visit to Wales, the Welsh side of my family seems to be from the Tenby area though my greatx3 grandfather was a gardener and moved around quite a lot in Pembrokeshire. His daughter married an Englishman and came out to New Zealand in the 1870s. Tenby was delightful and I can see why the rest of the family stayed put.

I've added O Caledonia to my library requests and must get to The Lantern Bearers this year.

42SandDune
Jan 3, 2024, 5:23 pm

>40 Sakerfalcon: So many new book ideas from the exhibition and lots of ideas of new books as well.

>41 avatiakh: Tenby is lovely. I've been there quite a few times over the years.

43Familyhistorian
Jan 3, 2024, 8:09 pm

I enjoyed The Eagle of the Ninth when I read it last year but didn't follow up with any of her other books. Thanks for the nudge, The Lantern Bearers is now on my library hold list.

Your New Years Eve night in London looks fabulous and the exhibition at the British Library sounds so good that I wonder why I've never taken in any of the BL's exhibitions. I tend to spend all of my time in the reading rooms when there.

44ronincats
Jan 3, 2024, 8:16 pm

Happy New Year, Rhian!

45humouress
Jan 4, 2024, 10:30 am

Happy New Year Rhian and family! Wishing you happiness, health and lots of reading adventures in 2024.



The photograph of the fireworks over the London Eye is pretty spectacular. Your sister's flat is in a great location.

46SandDune
Jan 4, 2024, 11:10 am

>43 Familyhistorian: To be honest, I don’t tend to think of the British Library either, but it’s one of Jacob’s go to locations, and the exhibition was his idea.

>44 ronincats: Happy New Year Roni!

>45 humouress: It is in an excellent location, just behind the Festival Hall, so we could see the fireworks without braving the crowds.

47Oberon
Jan 4, 2024, 12:06 pm

>16 SandDune: Very cool that you could see the fireworks, we were in London but ended up watching them on BBC1. Also, as an American it was very weird to watch Rick Astley host the New Year's celebration.

48SandDune
Jan 4, 2024, 1:29 pm

>47 Oberon: To be honest, I think I’d hate to be in one of the official firework watching areas. I don’t think I’d cope with the crowd at all well. Did you have a good time in London?

49Oberon
Jan 4, 2024, 3:26 pm

>48 SandDune: Yes but I will say it was far more crowded that we expected. Access to all of the museums was days out. I would have done a better job planning had I know it would have been quite so hard.

50sirfurboy
Jan 5, 2024, 5:48 am

Happy new year. Everyone is so active already. Makes me feel like an introvert! Well... I *am* an introvert so that's ok. Just dropping my star.

51PawsforThought
Jan 5, 2024, 7:11 am

Hi Rhian, and happy new year!

Sorry last year wasn't good to you and I really hope 2024 will be better (hoping the same for myself).

Looking forward to seeing what you end up reading this year.

52SandDune
Jan 5, 2024, 7:12 am

>49 Oberon: London is always packed these days!

>50 sirfurboy: Welcome Stephen. I'm definitely an introvert too!

Things are getting back to normal post Christmas here, although Mr SandDune isn't back to work until Monday. He'll have been off work for four weeks in total: three weeks holiday and one week with Covid before Christmas. We are having some plumbing work done this morning (we always seem to be having plumbing work done) - our shower door needed replacing, together with the shower surround. Tonight we are off to a quiz and we have roped Jacob into our team, which should be useful, as he is a fount of knowledge on quite a few subjects.

Currently I am reading The Forgotten Beasts of Eld by Patricia McKillip and The Whispering Mountain by Joan Aiken.

53quondame
Jan 5, 2024, 11:15 pm

>52 SandDune: The Forgotten Beasts of Eld is still my favorite fantasy single. Every time it's been challenged a sequel has returned it to the top spot.

54EBT1002
Jan 5, 2024, 11:19 pm

Happy weekend, Rhian!

55SandDune
Jan 6, 2024, 7:45 am

We had our quiz last night and came joint second. We have been behind the winners by one point if we hadn’t played our joker on our worst scoring round … A nice evening but the quizmaster was far too slow with the questions - just kept pausing for no apparent reason. It was only 6 rounds, but we could have easily done 8 rounds in less time than it took for 6. I don’t think I contributed much to be honest. My strong points in quizzes tend to be books (of course), art, geography and science, and there wasn’t a lot of questions on that sort of topic at all.

>53 quondame: That’s good to know. I’m enjoying it more and more as I go on.

>54 EBT1002: Happy weekend to you as well!

56katiekrug
Jan 6, 2024, 9:10 am

I love hearing how others' quizzes work. We do pub trivia every Tuesday night, and it's always fun.

57richardderus
Jan 6, 2024, 11:05 am

>52 SandDune: I'd forgotten about McKillip. I was very much NOT a fantasy reader, and that one was an early DNF when I was in my teens. I learned an important lesson from it: Life's too short to read stuff you don't like. Did find my way back to fantasy but still won't read poetry.

Enjoy the sodden weekend, dear lady.

58SandDune
Jan 6, 2024, 1:54 pm

>56 katiekrug: Well we are running a quiz in April and I think what we got out of last night’s quiz was some ideas on how NOT to do it!

>57 richardderus: I can see that The Forgotten Beasts of Eld wouldn’t suit everyone. I think Mr SandDune would hate it. But it has definitely grown on me.
It is sodden here. When we picked Jacob up last night he took us to see the stream across the road from where he lives. It’s usually a tiny stream - at the moment it’s a raging torrent.

59johnsimpson
Jan 6, 2024, 3:16 pm

Hi Rhian my dear, a belated Happy New Year, i will be visiting throughout 2024.

60SandDune
Jan 7, 2024, 3:51 am

>59 johnsimpson: Welcome John. I hope 2024 turns out better for you.

61PaulCranswick
Jan 7, 2024, 4:03 am

>55 SandDune: Another lover of quizzes over here, Rhian. Always thought I was good at them too and recently had a quiz team with two lawyer friends of mine and we lead the way for 9 rounds out of ten only to fluff our lines at the last.
The final topic was female singers and I was chortling confidently thinking that I am a music buff. We got 1 out of 20 as all the singers were from this decade and we hadn't heard of any of them!!

Have a great Sunday.

62SandDune
Edited: Jan 7, 2024, 8:42 am

1. The Forgotten Beasts of Eld Patricia A. McKillip ****



Sybel, descended from a long line of wizards, lives alone on Eld Mountain with only her magical beasts for companionship. But one day Coren of Sirle brings her a baby boy to care for, the son of Sybel's aunt Rianna who has married Drede, the king of Eldwold. But the child is not Drede's, his father was Norrel, Coren's brother with whom Rianna had had an affair. And now both Rianna and Norrel are dead, killed by Drede in his jealousy, and Drede is searching for the baby boy, to kill him as well. Eld Mountain seems the only place that the child can be safe, but the sixteen year old Sybel is not enamoured of the idea:

She woke the Lyon, asleep in the garden, with a touch of her mind, and sent it padding to the gates to cast a golden, warning eye at the intruder. But the shouting continued, urgent incoherent. She sighed, exasperated, and sent the Falcon Ter instructions to lift the intruder and drop him off the top of Eld Mountain. The shouting ceased suddenly, a moment later, but a baby's thin uncomforted voice wailed into the silence, startling her. She rose finally, walked through the marble hall in her bare feet, out into the garden, where the animals stirred restlessly about her. She reached the gates, of thin iron bars and gold joints, and looked out.

An armed man stood with a baby in his arms and Ter Falcon on his shoulder. The man was silent, frozen motionless under the play of Ter's grip; the child in his mailed arms cried oblivious. Sybel's eyes moved from the still, half-shadowed face to the Falcon's eyes.

'I told you' she said privately, 'to drop him off the top of Eld Mountain'.


Time passes and the boy, Tamlorn, grows. Until one day Coren returns to Sybel's gates and it seems that the story of Tamlorn's birth is not quite the true one. And the more Sybel tries to keep herself and Tam separate from the world, the more difficult this becomes.

This is a book that reads very like a fairy tale and for that reason it took me a little while to warm to the story. But at its heart are real human feelings and I ended up enjoying it a lot. At the end of last year I enjoyed Patricia A. McKillip's Alphabet of Thorn as well, so I'll be looking out for more by this author. Recommended.

63SandDune
Edited: Jan 7, 2024, 10:39 am

>61 PaulCranswick: We got 1 out of 20 as all the singers were from this decade - I would have been lucky to get 1 out of 20 on that round. Mr SandDune might have done better - teaching teenagers he tends to be more aware of modern singers.

64quondame
Jan 7, 2024, 2:11 pm

>62 SandDune: As I mentioned, I adore this book. Especially the Blammor and the meaning of it in Sybel's life. My daughter was upset that all the men wanted Sybel, but while I could see what she meant, I felt that the variations on "want" were considerable.

65The_Hibernator
Jan 7, 2024, 4:04 pm

Hi Rhian! May 2024 yeild many a good book!

66SandDune
Jan 8, 2024, 6:59 am

>64 quondame: Yes I can see what you mean - i didn’t like it quite as much as you did, but it was certainly much more tbought provoking than I was expecting at first.

>65 The_Hibernator: Welcome Rachel.

Today is the first day of the new term so Mr SandDune is back to work. I walked Daisy over to the local key-cutting shop to buy a new dog tag as she has irritatingly lost the last one that we bought her a couple of months ago. She was very pleased to find that there were dog treats behind the counter! It is thinking about trying to snow, but not succeeding so far. After weeks of very wet and windy (but mild) weather, it has turned colder now.

67johnsimpson
Jan 9, 2024, 2:37 pm

>60 SandDune:, Thanks Rhian my dear, and i hope 2024 is a really good year for you and the family.

68AMQS
Jan 10, 2024, 10:46 am

Hi Rhian! I thought of you last night when I learned from the New York Times that Brecon Beacon National Park had been renamed to Bannau Brycheiniog. When did that happen? We are in the process of renaming things like mountain peaks with their indigenous names (switching from western "heroes" who were in fact, brutally racist) or neighborhoods to something more palatable than the name of a former Denver mayor and KKK member. It takes some getting used to, but Bannau Brycheiniog made me happy:)

Hope you're having a great week.

69SandDune
Jan 10, 2024, 3:07 pm

>68 AMQS:. The change to Bannau Brycheiniog was last year I think. Snowdonia National Park also changed its name to Eryri as well. It's really nice to see the Welsh names coming back into more general use.

70atozgrl
Jan 10, 2024, 4:24 pm

Hello, Rhian! It sounds like you had a fun time in London.

Wishing you a great new year, full of good reads!

71Familyhistorian
Jan 10, 2024, 8:29 pm

Hi Rhian, as you said you are interested in DNA and your family tree, I immediately thought of you when I came across the following session listed on RootsTech 2024: "Hiking Into the Past: The first steps in your Welsh family history research adventure". RootsTech sessions can be seen online for free if you sign up with FamilySearch at https://www.familysearch.org/en/rootstech/registration/

72Berly
Jan 10, 2024, 9:21 pm

Just keeping current!! Happy Wednesday. : )

>62 SandDune: Nice write-up!

73kidzdoc
Edited: Jan 11, 2024, 12:25 pm

Happy New Year, Rhian!

Have you considered joining a dementia support group? I'm now attending weekly sessions through the healthcare organization I use, and I find the camaraderie, commiseration and advice from others who have or are going through what I am, and information about programs that can help those with dementia to be very helpful.

I'll also read more books about dementia, end of life care and other related topics, starting this month, and I'll review them on my thread.

ETA: Last year taught me, rather painfully, that the best way to care for my mother is to take care of my own health, similar to the public announcement on commercial airlines to put on your oxygen mask before you do so for others. I now have an excellent and comprehensive medical team, including a superb psychiatrist and psychotherapist, and although I have a long way to go I'm in a much better place than I was at this time last year.

74EBT1002
Jan 11, 2024, 12:23 pm

>73 kidzdoc: I second this suggestion. My sister's partner of 50 years has ever-worsening dementia due to Alzheimer's and I don't think she'd be surviving without her support group.

75kidzdoc
Edited: Jan 11, 2024, 12:27 pm

>74 EBT1002: Right, Ellen. I regret that my late father didn't go to a dementia support group, as he might be alive today had he done so, and sought the support that I had begged him to do during the last 2-3 years of his life.

76SandDune
Jan 11, 2024, 5:31 pm

>70 atozgrl: We've been going into London pretty often over the last year, I think as a reaction to not going there very much during lockdown periods. We counted up that we went to the theatre seven times in 2023.

>71 Familyhistorian: Thanks I'll have a look at that. I'll be beyond first steps though, as I've been doing it for some time, I just don't talk about it too much on here. Welsh family history can be very tricky though for a number of reasons. You have far more people sharing the same surname for a start, and the patronymic system of naming was used until much more recently. (In my father's family for instance it was still used until the beginning of the nineteenth century.) And then you have the fact that documentation is more likely to be in Welsh. And the fact that many more Welsh people were likely to be non-conformist, so you haven't necessarily got parish baptism and burial records.

>72 Berly: Thanks

>73 kidzdoc: >74 EBT1002: >75 kidzdoc: Thanks for the ideas. I'll have a look into whether there is something locally. The only thing that I have come across so far is a group for carers and the dementia sufferers to attend together, which wouldn't work for us. But I'll see if there is anything else available.

77vancouverdeb
Edited: Jan 12, 2024, 5:20 am

Stopping by to say hi, Rhian. I see you also perhaps interested in family history, as I am beginning to do.

78SandDune
Jan 12, 2024, 8:28 am

>77 vancouverdeb: To be honest, I've been interested in family history since I was pretty young. I put together a handwritten family tree from speaking to older relatives when I was about 11 or 12 which has been surprisingly useful, as I was talking to my grandmother (born in 1902) and great-aunt (born 1884) who were both the sort of people who knew the maiden names of their own grandparents. I go through phases of how much time I spend on it. But it's a lot easier than it used to be, and cheaper too!

79SandDune
Jan 12, 2024, 8:40 am

Well, we have finished out first TV series of 2024 and I think I'm going to give it 5*: Pren ar y Bryn (Tree on the Hill in English). It was in Welsh (although the English version will be out this year), but with subtitles. Mr SandDune thought it was excellent as well, so it's not just me being biased! A black comedy telling the story of a very ordinary and mundane couple who find themselves in extraordinary circumstances:



Probably not widely available as yet until it is out in English. Mr SandDune thinks it is too quirky and odd to be widely appreciated, but we both thought it was wonderful.

80SandDune
Edited: Jan 12, 2024, 3:04 pm

Still Life Sarah Winman ***



In 1944 the unusually named Private Ulysses Temper is in Florence waiting to cross the Arno with the Allied troops who have come up from the south, when a chance encounter leads him to save the life of a suicidal Florentine. Returning to London after the war Ulysses struggles to find his place in the world. His parents are both dead and his wife, Peg, has had a child with another man, and wants a divorce. But then the consequences of his action in Florence changes his life for ever. The man whose life he saved has died (of natural causes) and left his property in Florence to Ulysses ...

I have great difficulty knowing what to write about this book. Very many people love it, and I thought I'd love it too, for the simple reason that I spent ten months in Florence between 1982-1983 and so reading about the city appealed. But rather than a portrait of a real city, Still Life very much continues the trend for British and American (and for all I know other nationalities as well) to over romanticise Italy. These aren't real lives in a real Florence that are being described, it's a fairy tale Florence where just being in the city changes everyone who comes into contact with it for the better. There are two many coincidences, too many things that just turn out right... And it has an impossibly intelligent parrot called Claude, here delivering a candle to a flood victim:

A flash of blue and yellow in the gloom and what a sight he was! The weight of the candle caused a sudden drop in altitude and there was a sharp intake of breath from the contessa as Claude's chest feathers skimmed the black lake, but then he rose. Oh,how magnificently he rose! He circled the square twice until the flight path had been worked out and the landing zone calculated: 10 feet ....9 feet .... Straighten, straighten ... decrease speed.
You can do it, whispered Ulysses.
You can do it, whispered the contessa.
Ulysses shouted to Signor Lami to stand back and suddenly Claude disappeared through the open window. There was a sound of broken glass. Anxious seconds passed.
You sure the man opened the window? said the contessa?
(He had. It was simply that he was surprised by the appearance of so large a parrot he dropped a wine bottle.)


So half way through I was nearly ready to give up. Eventually, though it did start to grow on me, and I was able to appreciate the book for what it is rather than for what I wanted it to be. And parts of the book were evocative, such as the description of the catastrophic Florentine floods of 1966. It reminded me of a very wet, dark evening when I was standing with a friend looking out over the River Arno, very full after days of torrential rain, wondering if it was going to flood again. (It didn't, but it was very wet.)

So I feel Sarah Winman is probably not the author for me, although I'm not sorry I read the book.

81Familyhistorian
Jan 12, 2024, 4:20 pm

>76 SandDune: Hi Rhian, you are miles ahead if you were able to get information from older relatives when they were still alive. Info like that is gold! I don't have any Welsh roots but have done nonconformist research in England and have run across mentions of Welsh nonconformity.

82arubabookwoman
Jan 12, 2024, 7:17 pm

>80 SandDune: I was one who DNF'd Still Life. It never grabbed me, and I was wondering if I was missing something, since so many people loved it. I can't remember how far in it I read but it was probably at least 25%-30%.

83quondame
Jan 12, 2024, 8:25 pm

>80 SandDune: Oh! The mention of the flood reminded me that there was still significant flood damage on view when I visited Florence in 1967. There was so much there that it overrode anything missing or damaged. I still get breathless thinking about Michelangelo's Bacchus. I mean the David is impressive as hell, but B's smaller scale does not dim the impact.

84SandDune
Jan 13, 2024, 2:20 pm

>81 Familyhistorian: you are miles ahead if you were able to get information from older relatives when they were still alive It has been very useful in trying to find the right family on the census. So many people with the same name in South Wales! It does help when you know what all their children's names should be!

>82 arubabookwoman: I was definitely tempted to give up after about 100 pages. The first chapter in WWII was promising, but the descriptions of the next few years in London just left me cold.

>83 quondame: Perhaps that was why I struggled with the book. I've got lots of wonderful memories of my time in Florence, but my favourite memories don't concern the art. I was interested in visiting the art galleries and museums and I did read Vasari's Lives of the Artists (both volumes) but it wasn't what my time there was about.

85Caroline_McElwee
Edited: Jan 13, 2024, 2:34 pm

>80 SandDune: I definitely enjoyed this one more than you did Rhian. Read in 2022.

86Donna828
Jan 13, 2024, 7:45 pm

>80 SandDune: Rhian, we all like different books for different reasons. It’s good to be in a group that isn’t judgmental. I’m just happy to see the variety of books on LT and the many opinions about them. I hope your next book hits the sweet spot!

87SandDune
Edited: Jan 14, 2024, 7:21 am

3. The Whispering Mountain Joan Aiken *****



The Whispering Mountain was one of my favourite books as a child. I must have read it quite a few times when I was young, but not since, and when I came to read it again I found I had completely forgotten the plot, other than it was an adventure story set in Wales and there was a mountain in it! But rereading it has reminded me why I loved the book so much in the first place.

Set in the same alternative nineteenth century world as The Wolves of Willoughby Chase, The Whispering Mountain follows the adventures of Owen Hughes, wrongly accused of stealing the fabled Harp of Teirtu, (including by his own grandfather). But as Owen tries to clear his name by recapturing the harp, he discovers that there are other people apart from the original thieves who are interested in finding it, from the Marquess of Malyn in his castle on the coast to the Seljuk of the far-off land of Rum who is showing a surprising interest in a remote corner of Wales. But once the harp is found who is its legal owner? The marquess is convinced that it should be him, as the harp was found in the ruins of the old monastery of St. Ennodawg, on land owned by the Marquess, but Owen's grandfather, curator of the local museum, has different ideas:
''I am sure your legal knowledge is of the highest excellence,’ said the Marquess with a disdainful smile. ‘But in this instance it will not be needed. The deed says, in the plainest manner, that the grant of the island is made, not in perpetuity, but merely “so long as the Order of Ennodawg shall continue”. But where is the Order now, Mr Hughes? I think you will not dispute that the monastery is in ruins and has been so for the last fifty years? What has become of its gardens, its cattle, its furnishings? Gone, burned, stolen, decayed. Where are its monks, pray?’
‘In China,’ said Mr Hughes unexpectedly.
‘What?’ The Marquess, for once, was quite taken aback. ‘In China?’ he repeated. ‘What do you mean?’'


This was the only Joan Aiken that I read as a child (although I've read The Wolves of Willoughby Chase since) and it's one that deserves to be much better known. It's really got everything that a children's adventure story needs: adventure, close shaves with danger, an evil marquess and some real sadness too. Highly recommended.

88SandDune
Jan 14, 2024, 8:15 am

>85 Caroline_McElwee: Looking at the reviews I think most people enjoyed it more than me!

>86 Donna828: It’s good to be in a group that isn’t judgmental. It is isn't it. And so many books that I've loved that I never would have found if is wasn't for LT.

89SandDune
Jan 14, 2024, 12:41 pm

We've been to the cinema this afternoon to see 'One Life', the story of Sir Nicholas Winton and his role in the evacuation of Jewish children from Prague before the second world war. A very moving film and excellent performances from its lead actors, particularly Anthony Hopkins.

90SandDune
Jan 15, 2024, 8:35 am

This morning's task was to take Daisy to hydrotherapy for her arthritis. Daisy usually quite likes hydrotherapy, as she usually gets to lick liver paste off a licky mat for the duration of the session. But today the hydrotherapist wanted to try it without the paste, which I don't think Daisy approved of. Anyway, she did her exercises fine, and then she was supposed to have a go with a bit of swimming which did not work according to plan. She's a good swimmer (apparently her swimming action is a lot better than a lot of dogs) but she got panicky being out of her depth in the tank. She there was a lot of splashing and she had to be rescued and cuddled till she felt better. Anyway the liver paste made an appearance at the end of the session, so all was well again.

91Caroline_McElwee
Jan 15, 2024, 8:40 am

>90 SandDune: Well bribery and corruption never hurt anyone in small doses. Shame she got a bit anxious with the swim.

92lauralkeet
Jan 15, 2024, 10:36 am

>90 SandDune: Sweet Daisy. How could they deny her the liver paste for so long?!! Our vet uses a sort of spray cheese (comes out of a can, consistency like paste, bears no resemblance to actual cheese). Alys loves it and it's proven a decent distraction from, say, thermometers.

93SandDune
Jan 15, 2024, 11:04 am

>91 Caroline_McElwee: >92 lauralkeet: Well, there was a reason for it. Daisy gets so excited at the thought of food (and also with the idea that she can potentially pull the licky pad off the wall of the tank and destroy it) that she can get a little over-focused on that, whereas what the hydrotherapist wants her to do is walk calmly! Which to be honest she did do.

She is a great swimmer and can swim for quite a while, and usually wouldn't have an issue at being out of her depth, but she's always very careful to only swim where she knows she can get out of the water herself. I think it was the fact that she couldn't get out herself that worries her.

94richardderus
Jan 15, 2024, 11:27 am

>93 SandDune: I get it, but my fellow feeling is all for Daisy and her liver paste desire. Though I confess the thought of liver paste does not fill *me* with joy, put carrot cake with cream cheese frosting on that mat and watch me swim!

Have a great week, Rhian.

95SandDune
Jan 15, 2024, 11:49 am

>94 richardderus: Well, she'd do it for carrot cake and cream cheese as well! Pretty much the only things Daisy doesn't like are mushrooms, lettuce and cucumber.

96SandDune
Edited: Jan 15, 2024, 3:46 pm

4. Trespasses Louise Kennedy *****



In the Northern Ireland of the 1970s Cushla Lavery teaches at a primary school in a town outside Belfast, helping out part-time in her family's pub in her spare time. Not being in such a segregated area as Belfast, the pub attracts both catholic and protestant customers, and one day barrister Michael Agnew finds his way into the pub. A well off Protestant barrister in his fifties, the married Michael has seemingly little in common with the catholic much younger Cushla. But their mutual attraction leads then into a relationship which threatens both, as tensions continue to grow in the community.

Meanwhile in Cushla's school, her attempts to assist seven year old Davy McGeown, whose father has been beaten and left for dead in a sectarian attack, have far-reaching implications, both for her and her family ....

Trespasses provides a wonderful evocation of the Troubles in Northern Ireland, as even young children in Cushla's class become well-versed in the language of violence:

Before lessons they did The News. Cushla hated doing The News, but the headmaster insisted. He said it encouraged the children to be aware of the world around them. Cushla thought they already knew too much about the world around them. Davy stood up, always the first to volunteer. His red jumper was dark with damp at the shoulders and neckline.
There was a bomb in Belfast, he said.
He says that every day, said Jonathan, who sat beside him.
Well, today he's right. Thank you, Davy, said Cushla.
Jonathan got to his feet. It wasn't in Belfast, he said. A booby-trap bomb that was intended for a British Army foot patrol exploded prematurely, killing two boys near the border. They died instantly.
Booby trap. Incendiary device. Gelignite. Nitroglycerine. Petrol bomb. Rubber bullets. Saracen. Internment. The Special Powers Act. Vanguard. The vocabulary of a seven-year old now.
Well done, Jonathan, said Cushla.


But it's not just the violence of the Troubles, and the conflict between catholic and protestant, that are realistically portrayed. This is a totally believable depiction of the real world of the 1970s where the nuances of class differences and family relationships are captured beautifully with characters that the reader cares about deeply.

Highly Recommended.

97lauralkeet
Jan 16, 2024, 6:31 am

>96 SandDune: Trespasses was one of my top 5 last year, Rhian. So good.

98msf59
Jan 16, 2024, 8:11 am

Hi, Rhian. Sorry, Still Life didn't work for you. It was one of my favorite books, in the year I read it. I completely agree with you on Trespasses. Great review. Have you read The Colony? Another terrific Irish novel.

99richardderus
Jan 16, 2024, 9:46 am

>96 SandDune: Oh drat

*trudges off to Amazon to heal book bulleting*

100SandDune
Jan 16, 2024, 1:39 pm

>97 lauralkeet: It is very good isn't it? So accomplished for a first novel. So far my ranking for our Women's Prize shortlist read is:

1. Trespasses
2. Black Butterflies

On to Pod by Laline Paull next. I've read her book The Bees before, which I thought was OK, but not earth shattering.

>98 msf59: I haven't read The Colony but Mr SandDune has, so it is in the house somewhere. I really enjoyed The Undertaking by the same author though.

>99 richardderus: Sorry Richard!

101AMQS
Jan 16, 2024, 1:42 pm

Your Daisy/liver paste story made us LOL. Us meaning Callia and me, for I read it aloud to her. Our cats have an unhealthy "chicken stick" obsession (essentially chicken paste in a tube) which we're trying to curb since two of them (the chicken stick addicts, as it happens), are overweight.

You got me with The Whispering Mountain, which I had never heard of. I devoured the Wolves of Willoughby Chase books as a child. I was a little worried it might not be available here, but my library has a digital copy (not my favorite format). There's also a print copy available in the ILL system from a nearby city. It says this one's "fillustrated by Frank Bozzo," which I'm trying to decide if that means something special, or is just a typo.

102SandDune
Jan 16, 2024, 1:54 pm

>101 AMQS: We keep a very close eye on Daisy's weight these days. She is 18.7kg and she was up to 22.5kg at one point. Her mobility and activity levels are so much better since she lost weight. Somehow she doesn't quite seem to appreciate the effort we put into maintaining her svelte figure!

The Whispering Mountain isn't a book that you see about. I have a feeling that it might even have been out of print when Jacob was small, otherwise I would have probably got it for him.

103BLBera
Jan 16, 2024, 3:11 pm

The Aiken book sounds good. I remember reading The Wolves of Willoughby Chase to my kids, but they were lukewarm about them. I would like to look at those again.

I am another fan of Trespasses, hard to believe it's a first novel.

104curioussquared
Jan 16, 2024, 3:29 pm

Hi Rhian! You got me with The Whispering Mountain too. Only one of my five libraries has a digital copy, but that's enough!

105figsfromthistle
Jan 17, 2024, 1:15 pm

>79 SandDune: Sounds interesting! I shall have to look out for it when it is available in English.

>96 SandDune: BB for that one!

106SandDune
Jan 17, 2024, 5:06 pm

>103 BLBera: Apparently The Whispering Mountain is a sort of prequel to the whole Wolves of Willoughby Chase series, but as I've only read one of them I can't comment on how they tie together.

>105 figsfromthistle: I don't know if you watched Hinterland from a few years ago? That was an excellent crime series set around Aberystwyth in West Wales which was made in a similar way, with both Welsh and English versions filmed simultaneously. And it's the same people responsible for 'Pren ar y Bryn'.

107vancouverdeb
Jan 17, 2024, 5:13 pm

Well, Rhian, I need to keep an eye on my weight and lose some, but our dog, Poppy is doing very well at age 10. She is an 18 pound dog, so we hope to have another 5 years with her. I enjoyed quite a few of the book from the Women's Long List last year, including Black Butterflies and Trespasses.

108SandDune
Jan 17, 2024, 5:17 pm

>107 vancouverdeb: Daisy is 12 next month, but she's doing pretty well for an old girl. She's still very enthusiastic about everything. She can't walk all day like she used to be able to, but she can still manage an hour and a half or so off lead, despite the arthritis.

I thought Black Butterflies was good but Trespasses was exceptional.

I could definitely do with losing some weight myself!

109kidzdoc
Jan 18, 2024, 9:43 am

Nice review of Trespasses, Rhian. It's on my wish list as well.

110sirfurboy
Jan 18, 2024, 12:06 pm

>87 SandDune: That one is on my TBR list. I definitely need to get to it.

111karenmarie
Jan 19, 2024, 10:09 am

Hi Rhian.

Quick catch up - I dodged BBs, unlike Richard. Glad Daisy got through hydrotherapy successfully in the end, sorry she panicked in the deep end. I hate it when our kitties panic - 16.5 year old Inara recently panicked when we tried to give her her evening capsule, so we let it slide and let her run away to one of her safe places.

112SandDune
Jan 19, 2024, 1:59 pm

>107 vancouverdeb: Thanks Darryl.

>110 sirfurboy: It's well worth a read.

>111 karenmarie: She was fine by the end of the session when the liver paste made a reappearance.But I don't think they're going to try her swimming again in a hurry.

113SandDune
Jan 19, 2024, 2:04 pm

Last night we had our annual after Christmas book club dinner - only 6 of us were able to make it but we had a nice evening. As per usual, we exchanged books as a secret Santa. The one I ended up with was The Slow Road to Tehran by Rebecca Lowe - not one I'd come across before but looks interesting.

114Caroline_McElwee
Jan 19, 2024, 2:58 pm

>113 SandDune: Isn't it lovely when someone gifts you a book that you haven't heard of Rhian.

115SandDune
Jan 21, 2024, 1:54 pm

>114 Caroline_McElwee: It is isn't it? I always try and pick something that people won't have heard of. Unfortunately, Mr SandDune wasn't so careful and gave the same book he gave last year A Town Called Solace, which he had completely forgotten he had given previously. And even more unfortunately, it was picked up by the same person who picked it up last year. So we had to do a quick reshuffle of presents, but it all worked out in the end.

116Caroline_McElwee
Jan 21, 2024, 5:03 pm

>115 SandDune: Oh funny Rhian. Glad it got sorted in the end.

117SandDune
Jan 22, 2024, 1:40 pm

We had a reasonably quiet weekend. Mr SandDune took Caroline (Jacob's girlfriend) car shopping on Saturday, which took most of the day, and then they both came back here in the evening to eat. Sunday I spent most of the day researching places to stay for our summer holidays. We are going to Brittany for a couple of weeks. I always find booking cottages in France a bit overwhelming as there are just so many of them. But we've got two cottages booked now, for one week each, one in the north of Brittany, and one in the south. We are hoping to go to the Festival Inter-Celtique in Lorient during our second week. We've been there before (pre-Jacob) in the 1990s and it was great fun: musicians and dancers from all the Celtic countries.

118SandDune
Jan 22, 2024, 1:48 pm

I've finished reading People Person by Candice Carty-Williams for one of my book clubs but I didn't enjoy it much - review to follow. I've been listening to Pod by Laline Paul which I'm quite enjoying, but it's had to be put on hold while I listen to The Parisian by Isabella Hammad - that's my next book club book (for my other book club) and I've just realised it's pretty long. Otherwise, I'm reading Pied Piper by Nevil Shute as my bedtime book on kindle and I've just started The Fall of the Roman Empire: A new History by Peter Heather for Paul's war themed reads.

119katiekrug
Jan 22, 2024, 2:07 pm

>117 SandDune: - Very, very jealous. I have wanted to go to Brittany for several years now... I look forward to hearing more about your trip come summer.

120SandDune
Jan 22, 2024, 2:13 pm

>119 katiekrug: We have been to Brittany twice. Back in the 1990s as I said, and also in 2002, when Jacob was 2. We perfected our skills for eating nice French lunches with a 2 year old in tow on that holiday. Lots of walking in the morning so he was tired and then lunch when he was really hungry. It worked really well, we managed a four course lunch one day I remember!

But generally, Brittany is lovely. I've been wanting to revisit for a few years. We don't know yet if Jacob and Caroline will come with us (but it's a possibility) so we've booked cottages to be flexible.

121lauralkeet
Jan 23, 2024, 6:04 am

Your summer plans sound lovely, Rhian. We've spent holidays in Languedoc and Provence but have not made it to Brittany. I look forward to hearing more. You always post wonderful photos, too.

122SandDune
Edited: Jan 23, 2024, 2:30 pm

5. People Person Candice Carty-Williams



Cyril Pennington, Jamaican born but living in London, has five children (with four different mothers). Unfortunately

'Cyril saw himself as more of a people person than a father. Sadly for his children this didn't extend to the five of them in a way that was mutually beneficial.'


The children know of each other's existence, they even spent an afternoon in each other's company once, as teenagers, when Cyril picked them up in his gold jeep, his pride and joy, to take them on an unsuccessful outing to the park. But years have gone past without the siblings giving each other a second thought, despite living in the same part of London. Until that is, Cyril's third child Dimple has a problem, a very big problem, and decides to phone her eldest half-sister Nikisha for help. Dimple's unpleasant boyfriend Kyron has hit his head after slipping on some olive oil in Dimple's kitchen and now seems to be very dead indeed. So the siblings are gathered together in an attempt to bury the body before Dimple can be accused of murder ....

And this is where I started to have a problem with this book. Up until that point none of the half-siblings have shown any interest in each other at all. They haven't met since that one meeting fifteen years previously. They know nothing whatsoever about Dimple - for all they know she could be in the habit of murdering boyfriends in her kitchen. And yet they're all totally happy to drive about London looking for somewhere to bury the body. I don't think so. And Dimple herself, a thirty year old wannabe (but very unsuccessful) influencer who never seems to have had a proper job in her life is such an ineffectual and inadequate main character. If she was twenty rather than thirty I might possibly have been more sympathetic, but she's effectively an overgrown spoilt teenager. The lives of the other siblings, and their mothers as well, seem to have more back history that could be explored, but it's only mentioned very briefly.

So I didn't like this book. According to the blurb, it's 'hilarious'. I don't think I even smiled once.

123SandDune
Jan 23, 2024, 2:31 pm

>121 lauralkeet: We don't really know Languedoc and Provence.

124katiekrug
Jan 23, 2024, 2:36 pm

>122 SandDune: - I probably would have passed on this one even without your comments on it. I was in the minority in not liking her earlier novel, Queenie.

125SandDune
Jan 23, 2024, 2:42 pm

>124 katiekrug: I have Queenie sitting on the shelves but I've not got around to it yet. I think it had much better reviews generally than People Person but I'm probably not going to get around to it anytime soon now. Part of the problem I had is that I've just watched the excellent TV show 'Pren ar y Bryn' (in Welsh with subtitles but coming up in English soon) which also had a plot based on the disposal of a body. But in that one the plot was so much better: every little step seemed to make sense (or at least you could see it would have made sense to the characters as they were portrayed). But this just felt sloppy.

126SandDune
Jan 24, 2024, 1:51 pm

Aren’t differences between the way the U.K. / Europe does things and the way the U.S. does things fun? Actually, they weren’t this morning when I was trying to set up a Zoom meeting (I don’t do this often) and spent five minutes trying to get the time to read 15.00 when it continually got stuck at 11.30. It was at that point that I realised that there was a P.M. button ….

We had my book club meeting this afternoon to discuss People Person - only four of us as several people are either away or ill, but we all had similar opinions. We didn’t believe in the characters as real people, and definitely didn’t believe that the half siblings would cooperate in hiding a body! Next month’s choice is The Salt Path by Raynor Winn which I’ve read before and really enjoyed.

127BLBera
Jan 24, 2024, 6:32 pm

I was surprised by how much I liked Queenie, but I wasn't tempted by People Person, and now you have saved me the work of reading it, Rhian.

128EBT1002
Jan 25, 2024, 12:38 am

Hi Rhian. The Salt Path sounds really interesting! I've not heard of it before.

I'm also intrigued by The Parisian. It sounds perhaps timely?

129lauralkeet
Jan 25, 2024, 6:20 am

>123 SandDune: The south of France is worth a visit, Rhian, especially if you're looking for a warm summer holiday. I'd recommend Languedoc over Provence; the climate and landscape is very similar but there are far fewer tourists. And plenty of history, countryside, and of course reasonably priced wine.

130SandDune
Jan 25, 2024, 1:28 pm

>127 BLBera: Glad to be of service.

>128 EBT1002: I think you would like The Salt Path, partais you enjoy hiking.

I thought The Parisien would be timely too, looking at the blurb anyway. But I'm quite a few chapters in and we're still in Montpellier in 1914/15, so I'm beginning to wonder! Enjoying it so far though.

>129 lauralkeet: These days I'm a bit more concerned about it being too hot! I'd much rather go in June or September if we were going right down south, and of course with Mr SandDune still working we can't do that.

131SandDune
Edited: Jan 25, 2024, 2:33 pm

Pied Piper Nevil Shute ****



An old man, retired solicitor John Sidney Howard, (actually only approaching 70, but old by the standards of the day) sits in his London club recounting his story to another club member while an air raid thunders around then. Struggling to come to terms with the death of his son, Howard had recently decided to take a fishing trip to France, to the Jura. But it's the spring of 1940 and Britain and France are at war with Germany. (With the benefit of hindsight, a holiday abroad seems a ludicrous idea, but in the spring of 1940, to a man whose experience of war was based on WWI, perhaps less so.) But as the weeks pass the military situation looks more and more ominous and Howard decides that he should return to England. On the eve of his departure, a fellow guest, Mrs Cavanagh, asks a favour of him: will he take her two young children back to England to stay with her sister? The Cavanagh's home is Geneva, where the husband works for the League of Nations, but there have been rumours of a German invasion there so Mrs Cavanagh has brought the children to the safety of France. But now it seems that France is not safe either, so as Mrs Cavanagh does not want to leave her husband, will Mr Howard not take them? And perhaps everything would have been well, but the youngest child, Sheila, falls ill upon the journey, and the ensuing delay means that Howard and his charges are overtaken by the German blitzkrieg. And like the eponymous pied piper, soon it isn't just the two children that Howard is shepherding across a collapsing France....

This is a quiet story of a decent man doing the best he can in extraordinary circumstances, which doesn't shy away from some of the horrors of war:

Their rest finished, he led them out upon the road again. To encourage them upon the way he broke one of the chocolate bars accurately into four pieces and gave it to them. Three of the children took their portion avidly. The fourth shook his head dumbly and refused. ‘Merci, monsieur,’ he whispered. The old man said gently in French: ‘Don’t you like chocolate, Pierre? It’s so good.’ The child shook his head. ‘Try a little bit.’ The other children looked on curiously. The little boy whispered: ‘Merci, monsieur. Maman dit que non. Seulement après déjeuner.’ For a moment the old man’s mind went back to the torn bodies left behind them by the roadside covered roughly with a rug; he forced his mind away from that. ‘All right,’ he said in French, ‘we’ll keep it, and you shall have it after déjeuner.’ He put the morsel carefully in a corner of the pram seat, the little boy in grey watched with grave interest. ‘It will be quite safe there.’


Published in 1942, it's difficult to imagine this sort of book being written now. I can't help thinking that an equivalent would have an overly saccharine ending. I think I first read this when I was about 13 or so - I didn't think that I would remember it but certain episodes came back very clearly, so it obviously made an impression. Recommended.

132The_Hibernator
Jan 25, 2024, 2:48 pm

Yeah, I'm not sure why PM and AM are necessary. Most people can count to 24

133SandDune
Jan 25, 2024, 4:03 pm

I've signed up for a scheme where intermediate Welsh speakers (like me) are matched with a partner who speaks fluent Welsh, to practise conversation. I had my second chat today (via Zoom, hence why I was trying to sort out Zoom timings). I am so impressed with my partner. She is English for a start, didn't start learning Welsh until 2020 and is now pretty much completely fluent. I'm doing one level a year, which is already condensed from the more relaxed one level over two years which used to be the norm. She's been doing two levels in one year! Who says older adults can't learn a language? Apparently she'll be 70 next birthday.

>132 The_Hibernator: Once I saw it, it was obvious. It's just all the other similar types of things I come across use a 24 hour clock!

134SandDune
Jan 26, 2024, 7:53 am

I have the house mostly to myself today, even though Mr SandDune doesn't work on a Friday. He had breakfast planned with a friend so left the house at an ungodly hour of the morning (his friend works at the Daily Mirror and breakfast time is the only time they can usually coordinate diaries), then two gym classes, then an early lunch as he had to be in Hertford for 1pm to pick Caroline up for more car shopping. (Myself and Jacob have sensibly decided that we don't want to participate in the car shopping). I popped over to see my mother briefly this morning but apart from that I have reading time. But tomorrow we're going to the coast. Every so often I get angsty that it's a long time since I've seen the sea, and we have to make a trip.

135arubabookwoman
Jan 26, 2024, 5:33 pm

>131 SandDune: I have that on my Kindle and want to read it soon. A year or two ago I read Trustee From the Toolroom by Shute, and even though it was a bit dated, it had such a decent main character and was such a feel-good book, I knew I wanted to read more by him. (I had already read A Town Like Alice and The Breaking WAVE). Pied Piper sounds like it would have a similar feel=good effect.

136SandDune
Edited: Jan 26, 2024, 5:41 pm

>135 arubabookwoman: I really liked the way that Pied Piper did have a feel good effect, but not an overwhelmingly saccherine one. Bad things do happen in the book, but you are left with the feeling that there are decent people in the world. I’ve read A Town Like Alice and On the Beach before, but a long time ago. The reason I read Pied Piper now was actually because Trustee from the Toolroom (and Nevil Shute more generally) was featured in the Backlisted podcast, which I enjoy listening to. Pied Piper is very much a book of its time, but well worth reading I think.

137arubabookwoman
Jan 26, 2024, 7:56 pm

If you haven't read Trustee from the Toolroom I highly recommend it!

138BLBera
Jan 27, 2024, 1:10 pm

I read A Town Like Alice and On the Beach years ago and liked them. I don't know why I haven't searched out more by Shute. I'm taking note of the titles you mentioned.

139SandDune
Jan 27, 2024, 3:13 pm

We went for a day trip up to North Norfolk today. A walk along the marshes at Blakeney and then over to the beach at Holkham (if anyone knows the area). We found a very nice bakery / cafe at Blakeney (which I'm sure wasn't there last time we went) and bought smoked salmon and cream cheese bagels for a picnic. And then we called back after our first walk to have a cake and warm up. Lovely walks, and not too cold, and to top everything we saw two marsh harriers.



Daisy had a lovely time, as usual anywhere near the beach. She's perfected a technique for getting maximum fuss along the way. Whenever she sees a group of people sitting on a bench or standing chatting she goes and stands in front of them wagging her tail for all she's worth, and looking at them hopefully. It's been remarkably successful today and she found quite a lot of people who were happy to make a fuss of her. She's completely worn out now, so fast asleep.

140SandDune
Jan 27, 2024, 3:16 pm

>137 arubabookwoman: I've put it on the WL.

>138 BLBera: I think he's just one of those writers that's just out of fashion now. You don't see the books about any more.

141AMQS
Jan 27, 2024, 4:39 pm

Your day trip to the coast sounds just lovely! Like you, Stelios gets angsty when he's been away from the ocean for too long, but there's not much we can do from Colorado.

142LovingLit
Jan 27, 2024, 5:05 pm

>13 karenmarie: I think I would read this one. I have yet to read On the Beach, in spite of it being heavily recommended by my dad!

143lauralkeet
Jan 27, 2024, 5:08 pm

>139 SandDune: It sounds like a lovely day, Rhian. Is Blakeney in Ruth Galloway territory? The name sounds familiar.

Daisy is brilliant.

144SandDune
Jan 27, 2024, 5:33 pm

>141 AMQS: It's not quite a far as that! North Norfolk is about two hours drive from here. The nearest bit of coast is about 1 hour 15 minutes away, but North Norfolk is nicer. Mr SandDune thinks it's too far for a day trip but I persuaded him.

>142 LovingLit: Not a cheerful read, On the Beach!

>143 lauralkeet: Is Blakeney in Ruth Galloway territory? If I had to make a guess where Ruth's cottage was, I'd put it a little bit further west than Blakeney. But it's quite likely Blakeney is mentioned in the books. There are a lot of marshes all along that coast, and sandy beaches too, where the marshes hit the sea. At our second stop at Holkham, they are doing a lot of rewilding, letting all the reclaimed land revert to nature.

Daisy just adores people! And food! You can't see her in the picture but she is behind me sitting with her eyes not moving from my face as I eat my cake. She did get a little bit at the end!

145lauralkeet
Edited: Jan 28, 2024, 6:37 am

Thanks Rhian. The North Norfolk landscape sounds amazing. I'm glad Daisy got her bit of cake.

146Whisper1
Jan 28, 2024, 7:21 am

>139 SandDune: Hi Rhian. Your excursion sounds lovely! I enjoy learning about the area where you live, and where you visit. I may have mentioned that my ancestry is Welsh. I lived in a small NE Pennsyvlania town called Bangor, PA. Founded by Welsh and english people who worked in coal mines to now mine the slate that was so prevelant in the area.

147SandDune
Jan 28, 2024, 7:53 am

>145 lauralkeet: I'm glad Daisy got her bit of cake. She did! She also got some of both my and Mr SandDune’s bagels, a piece of Mr SandDune’s empanada and a dog biscuit from the waitress in the second cafe we went to. So she did pretty well.

148ursula
Jan 28, 2024, 8:00 am

>122 SandDune: "hilarious" is a descriptor that makes me run from a book; I'm pretty much guaranteed to hate it!

Your outing sounds lovely, and seeing the list of foods that Daisy had a bite of reminded me a lot of Penny. We pretty much always gave her the last bite of everything. She was always very present while waiting for her bite, but also quite patient about it.

149SandDune
Edited: Jan 28, 2024, 8:10 am

>146 Whisper1: Some of my relatives emigrated to Pennsylvania but to McKees Rocks which looks to be a suburb of Pittsburgh these days. Not miners though (although I have a lot of miners in my family tree) - this family were shopkeepers.

Founded by Welsh and english people who worked in coal mines to now mine the slate that was so prevelant in the area. If they came from Bangor in North Wales they were probably slate miners there too - a lot more slate there than coal in that area.

150SandDune
Jan 28, 2024, 8:14 am

>148 ursula: We're pretty careful with Daisy's weight, as her arthritis is so much better if we keep it under control. But she had a lot more exercise yesterday than normal, so she will have walked it off .

151richardderus
Jan 28, 2024, 12:57 pm

>139 SandDune: A dog with a plan! I have never read any Shute beyond On the Beach, and that long ago when dating a film student who was going to screen the adaptation so I powered through it...my memory told me I had read A Town Called Alice but nothing about it rings even a small bell. I wonder if I just did not like it, so forgot it. How I wish my ancient notebooks had survived my different moves!

Your dessert looks nummy. Unless that cheesecake lookin' thing is some sort of UK bagel, in which case it looks *awful*....

152SandDune
Jan 28, 2024, 1:26 pm

>151 richardderus: What I am eating in the picture is a blackberry and apple friand. I couldn't have told you what one was before yesterday.

This is the bagel:



153richardderus
Jan 28, 2024, 1:35 pm

>152 SandDune: ...it looks underproved...the salmon and salads look scrummy!

That is a friand? Interesting! It looks more raised than I'd've expected since they are cousins of the financiere. The flavors sound perfect! Blackberry and apple together are so satisfying.

154SandDune
Edited: Jan 28, 2024, 2:31 pm

>152 SandDune: To be honest, it perhaps wasn't the most bagelly bagel that I've ever had. But it was very tasty. I took a picture of it as Caroline and Jacob have been going on about a bagel shop near them, so I wanted to show that I had a bagel too. I only ever eat smoked salmon and cream cheese bagels - I really ought to branch out a bit and try something new next time.

Didn't know what a financiere was either!

155quondame
Jan 28, 2024, 2:40 pm

>154 SandDune: I find lox & cream cheese (onions & capers yes, tomato sometimes) quite sufficient as cover when I want a bagel - which isn't that often, but more than I have them. It's interesting to me that lox is one of the most ubiquitous ancient root words that have been traced.

When I lived around the corner from a bagel bakery I often indulged in a variety of flavors, but they don't call to me like l&cc.

156Caroline_McElwee
Edited: Jan 28, 2024, 2:44 pm

>139 SandDune: Sounds like a lovely couple of days Rhian. The cake looks yum! I would be one of the folk fussing Daisy. I often holiday in Lyme Regis, and fuss any dawg who wants a fuss.

157SandDune
Jan 28, 2024, 4:16 pm

>155 quondame: That's another word I don't know - 'lox'!

>156 Caroline_McElwee: Daisy is so people orientated!

158quondame
Jan 28, 2024, 4:26 pm

Lox is the salmon to put on bagels! At root it just means salmon, but usage has fenced it into that meat prepared for slicing and serving uncooked.

159SandDune
Edited: Jan 28, 2024, 4:33 pm

>158 quondame: Over here we just say smoked salmon!

ETA- I asked Mr SandDune and he didn't know either. So it's not just me.

160quondame
Edited: Jan 28, 2024, 4:37 pm

You haven't had the exposure to Yiddish speakers perhaps?
Lox

161figsfromthistle
Jan 28, 2024, 8:31 pm

>139 SandDune: Sounds like a great day trip. Plenty of walking and the picnic sounds delicious!

162EBT1002
Jan 28, 2024, 8:38 pm

Okay, now I am craving a bagel.

163ursula
Edited: Jan 29, 2024, 4:08 am

>150 SandDune: Penny usually walked a couple/few miles a day so it was mostly a non-issue. Lucky for her, not so much for us with 4 walks a day!

>159 SandDune: Really? Interesting. I always heard it for the specific type of salmon frequently used on bagels (and probably in more contexts but that was the only one I cared about haha), and then was surprised to find out that the German word for salmon in general is "Lachs". But I mean it's only surprising as a backstory for me, I do know that a lot of Yiddish comes from/overlaps with German.

164SandDune
Jan 29, 2024, 9:14 am

>160 quondame: I don't think I've ever met a Yiddish speaker to be honest.

>162 EBT1002: >163 ursula: I extended my sample to include Jacob, and he didn't know what it meant either. (And he does speak pretty good German). I know gravlax (or gravad laks) but I'd never heard lox as an English word and just didn't make the connection.

>161 figsfromthistle: North Norfolk is one of my favourite areas. It's such a varied coastline.

165richardderus
Jan 29, 2024, 10:22 am

>154 SandDune: Didn't know what a financiere was either!

*faints*

...no GBBO watcher you, then. I think that show has done more for culinary literacy than any other. Fanny Craddock and Julia Child put together, at their respective peaks of popularity,had nothin' on GBBO.

Enjoy the week, Rhian. *smooch*

166quondame
Jan 29, 2024, 3:46 pm

>164 SandDune: Though I didn't know it until I was about 13, my mother's grandparents were Yiddish speakers and I grew up with a fair number of expressions unusual to the typical WASP (I thought) household of the 1950s. Yehudi did it. Oy vey!

167kidzdoc
Jan 29, 2024, 10:53 pm

>144 SandDune: I can vouch for Rhian's comment that Daisy loves people! The feeling was certainly mutual.

168The_Hibernator
Jan 30, 2024, 3:05 pm

Mmmm. Bagels. I just do cream cheese, though.

169SandDune
Jan 30, 2024, 5:13 pm

>165 richardderus: I don't watch GBBO. I'm very sorry. Will try to do better in future! To be honest, usually when I do eat cake I go for the traditional British types, like Victoria Sandwich or Coffee and Walnut cake.

>166 quondame: I looked it up to see how many Yiddish speakers there were in the U.K. and there are only about 30,000 concentrated in certain parts of London (and Manchester) where I have never lived. So I don't think it's had such a great influence in the U.K. comparatively.

>167 kidzdoc: Daisy is a lot greyer than when you saw her Darryl but she is still as friendly.

>168 The_Hibernator: I always have to have the salmon as well! I can always eat smoked salmon!

170Berly
Jan 30, 2024, 5:34 pm

Hubby likes the Everything Bagel with salmon whereas I like something simple like an Asiago Bagel with just a schmear of cream cheese. Now I'm hungry!! : )

171BLBera
Feb 2, 2024, 7:28 am

Your thread is making me hungry as well, Rhian. I need a bagel.

172SandDune
Feb 2, 2024, 5:18 pm

>170 Berly: >171 BLBera: Well, no bagels this weekend! Today we have had a trip to a boring part of North London to collect Caroline's (Jacob's girlfriend's) new car. Mr SandDune had to go to take Caroline (and to drive her back as she was nervous of driving in London). And I had to go to bring our car back while Mr SandDune was driving Caroline. Anyway, it should be much more convenient for Jacob and Caroline now that they have their own transport.

I have got two new books Whaling by Nathan Munday and Viva Bartali! by Damian Walford Davies. Largely because the publisher Seren was having a half-price sale on all their books and those two sounded a little different.

173SandDune
Feb 2, 2024, 5:24 pm

Not getting through a lot of books at the moment as I've been listening to The Parisian by Isabella Hammad which is long .... over 20 hours on Audible. Good in parts, but I can't help thinking that it needed a really good editor. I've also been trying to get through The Fall of the Roman Empire by Peter Heather, but it's slow progress and I might put it to one side for a while.

174vancouverdeb
Feb 3, 2024, 2:12 am

I guess it no surprise that your prefer traditional British Desserts. I'm all about chocolate! But I did a DNA thing that included traits , and it said I had a 70 % percent chance of preferring chocolate to vanilla. That explains it! :-)

175SandDune
Feb 3, 2024, 4:58 pm

>174 vancouverdeb: I don't particularly prefer traditional British desserts, although I'm very fond of some sort of fruit crumble. If we're out for a meal I'll usually opt for something a little lighter, and traditional British puddings tend to be on the more solid side. But I definitely prefer British type cakes. Funnily enough, although I love chocolate I'm slightly less keen on chocolate flavoured things.

176SandDune
Feb 3, 2024, 5:11 pm

7. Gwers Mewn Cariad Beca Brown



A Welsh learner book - I'm on Intermediate level now, so they've got a bit more complicated, but this one's very average. A middle-aged Welsh tutor falls for her much younger student. This one will probably win the prize for worst cover for 2024.

177Familyhistorian
Feb 3, 2024, 5:24 pm

>139 SandDune: The cake looks good, Rhian, and future travel plans sound interesting.

178SandDune
Feb 3, 2024, 5:34 pm

>177 Familyhistorian: We finished booking some things for our summer holiday today: the ferry from Portsmouth to Caen and overnight hotel accommodation near Caen. I wanted to book an overnight ferry to St Malo rather than Caen: it's a slightly longer crossing so you can actually get a reasonable amount of sleep overnight and St Malo would have been nearer to our final destination. But there were no cabins left on that crossing (I think they sell out really early) so we've stuck with a day crossing from Portsmouth to Caen, and then a hotel overnight.

179SandDune
Feb 4, 2024, 7:20 am

It's happy birthday to Daisy: 12 years old today! So here's a few pictures over the years ....








180Caroline_McElwee
Feb 4, 2024, 7:41 am

Happy birthday Daisy. What a cute pup she was. Great to see her enjoying the buttercups. No doubt there will be food treats for her today.

181lauralkeet
Feb 4, 2024, 8:37 am

Happy birthday Daisy! What an adorable pup, and now a lovely lady. I hope she is smothered in pets and kisses today!

182katiekrug
Feb 4, 2024, 9:26 am

>179 SandDune: - Sweet girl! Happy birthday!

183SandDune
Feb 4, 2024, 9:52 am

>180 Caroline_McElwee: >181 lauralkeet: >182 katiekrug: She had some smoked salmon, which is one of her absolutely favourite things!

184richardderus
Feb 4, 2024, 10:13 am

>179 SandDune: Happy Daisy Day! And a bunch of happy days for Daisy to show how loved she is.

Enjoy the week-ahead's reads, Rhian (and >176 SandDune: is aboslutely dreadful for certain, and should win the ghastliness derby in 2024).

185BLBera
Feb 4, 2024, 12:23 pm

Happy Birthday to Daisy. She is still cute!

186SandDune
Feb 4, 2024, 12:51 pm

>179 SandDune: >184 richardderus: >185 BLBera: We took the puppy picture on her first full day at home. I remember worrying that there was something wrong with her legs, as she didn’t seem very good at running. But when we took her to the vet the next day for her vaccinations and general check-up he reassured us that she was fine, just very young. She was eight weeks old then.

187SandDune
Feb 4, 2024, 1:07 pm

>184 richardderus: I don't rate my Welsh learner books, for obvious reasons: they can often be the sort of story that I wouldn't pick up if they were in English. I just pick up the next one in the series no matter what it happens to be. I'm not good enough at reading Welsh yet to just pick a normal book up off the shelf up - I still need the readers. Some of them are really quite fun, but as I said this one was only so-so.

188richardderus
Feb 4, 2024, 1:08 pm

>187 SandDune: The story is a lot less ghastly-sounding than that cover is looking. Dire indeed.

189quondame
Feb 4, 2024, 3:39 pm

>179 SandDune: A dog's life can be quite good, as Daisy so completely illustrates! Happy Birthday to Daisy!

190SandDune
Edited: Feb 4, 2024, 3:48 pm

8. The Parisian Isabella Hammad ***



It's 1914 and Midhat Kamal is travelling from his home in Nablus (now on the West Bank, then part of the Ottoman Empire) to study medicine at Montpellier. Lodging with the Molineu family he is soon attracted to the daughter Jeanette, and gradually his feelings are reciprocated. But Midhat's chance discovery that Docteur Molineu, a social anthropologist, is in fact studying him as an anthropological specimen for his paper 'The Effect of a New Language on a Primitive Brain' leads to a rupture between the two:

He felt a cramp in his stomach. He was a guest, but the host had trespassed. And he too had trespassed, and transgressed, with the host's daughter. Whose then was the crime? The spectre of his ignorance rose now before him. He thought he knew their public codes now, more or less — but the private ones? He had thought himself in the bosom of the family, capable — almost — of sitting in a chair in the study. He had thought it made no difference. But if he was the father's subject, how could he be the daughter's husband? One did not study one's sons-in-law.


When Jeanette turns away from him to support her father Midhat knows that he can no longer stay in the house and, abandoning his medical studies, he leaves for Paris ....

The war ends, Midhat returns to Nablus, the Ottoman Empire collapses and change is in the air in the city of Nablus. And the book follows Midhat's life as the world changes around him, almost until the start of Second World War. But his time in Paris and his early love for Jeanette continue to influence his life in unexpected ways ...

This is a well written book, but there are major faults with its construction in my opinion. There seem to be three novels competing for attention in The Parisian whose individual themes do not necessarily sit well together:
- a memoir of Midhat Kamala's life
- a history of Palestine and its politics between 1914 and 1936. This requires bringing in more characters and events as Midhat himself is somewhat apolitical.
- a social history of the inhabitants of Nablus and the different peoples making up its population

Any one of those themes could have worked well, but they in combination there are just too many characters, most of whom are not well defined, and too many unconnected events. A book that needed a really good editor.

191atozgrl
Feb 4, 2024, 5:49 pm

>179 SandDune: Happy birthday to Daisy! It sounds like you spoiled her well on her day. Thanks for sharing the pictures--it looks like she's had some fun times.

192SandDune
Feb 5, 2024, 3:26 am

>189 quondame: >191 atozgrl: Well Daisy’s birthday was even happier yesterday as Jacob and Caroline turned up unexpectedly in the evening. It was quite funny. They knocked on the door and we assumed it was a delivery and when Mr SandDune went to answer he was so busy trying to restrain Daisy (who had suddenly got very determined to get out) that he didn’t see who it actually was. (And it was dark and they were wearing black). But obviously Daisy could smell them and was determined to get out there and start licking people at all costs! She’s usually very good when people are at the door – she knows she’s not allowed to go beyond the doorstep – but with Jacob and Caroline together all the training goes out the window!

193FAMeulstee
Feb 5, 2024, 7:15 am

>192 SandDune: Glad to read Daisy had such a happy birthday, Rhian. Smoked salmon AND Jacob and Caroline viviting!
I remember when you got her :-)

194richardderus
Feb 5, 2024, 1:05 pm

>190 SandDune: A book without focus is a story ill-served. Too bad, it sounds like a good book lurks in there.

195SandDune
Feb 5, 2024, 2:03 pm

>193 FAMeulstee: Twelve years seems such a long time ago now. Jacob was just starting secondary school and he'll be turning 24 at the end of the week!

>194 richardderus: I'm thinking now maybe i was being a bit harsh and I should rate it as three and a half stars. It definitely had its moments but it had the potential to be SUCH a good book, and that potential was wasted. But I did have a really good conversation about the history of Palestine with Jacob this afternoon on the back of it. And it did enable me to discover that Samaritans still exist. I had assumed they were just a people in the Bible - it never occurred to me that they were still around.

196richardderus
Feb 5, 2024, 2:43 pm

>195 SandDune: But I did have a really good conversation about the history of Palestine with Jacob this afternoon on the back of it. And it did enable me to discover that Samaritans still exist. I had assumed they were just a people in the Bible - it never occurred to me that they were still around.

Special pleading does not make it a better read, just makes its good points the more frustrating for sticking up out of the glugging sicking mud of ~meh~.

197LovingLit
Feb 5, 2024, 5:25 pm

>195 SandDune: Twelve years ago when I was still relatively new here on LT I had a 6 month old, and a 3 year old and now both as as tall or taller than me!!! it is so nice to think of us all chatting and keeping up with each other (however sporadically) over the years.

198SandDune
Feb 6, 2024, 8:30 am

>196 richardderus: We've got our Book Club meeting tonight so I'll see what everyone else thinks of it.

>197 LovingLit: I think when Jacob was twelve was when he overtook me in height. He towers over me now at about 6ft 2".

199karenmarie
Feb 7, 2024, 5:49 am

Hi Rhian.

>133 SandDune: I’m impressed at how hard you’re working on improving your Welsh. Being paired up with someone who speaks fluent Welsh sounds like the perfect next step.

>139 SandDune: I love the photo of you eating the blackberry and apple friand.

>176 SandDune: I agree with you about Worst Cover for 2024. That creeps me out.

>179 SandDune: Sweet pics of Daisy.

  1. I love bagels with cream cheese and fruit spread – heresy, I know.
  2. Jenna is extremely pleased with herself since she’s now taller than I am, although it’s only by 1.5 inches.
  3. I see a theme with your comments about books needing good editors. The advent of computers and word processing has allowed way too much dreck to make it to the public.

200humouress
Feb 7, 2024, 10:51 am

>179 SandDune: 💝 Happy birthday Daisy!

(I'm trying to catch up after a long hiatus, so some comments on various posts upstream:)

Gosh, a dog that turns mindless/ hyper-focussed at the thought of food. No idea what that's like ;0)

Daisy obviously knows how to win people over. Jasper, when he gets excited at the thought of meeting new people (ie every time new people turn up), starts barking his head off which, of course, just makes those who are nervous about dogs think he's sizing them up for dinner. Which is pretty much the exact opposite of his intentions.

I'm not a bagel fan myself; they're too chewy for me. I usually settle for brown bread for my salmon sandwiches (though at the moment I'm not supposed to eat bread). Unfortunately, the bread here always seems to be made with sugar which tastes a bit weird against the saltiness of salmon.

Gosh how time flies. I've been on LT for 15 years, when my eldest was 4 years old and my youngest was about to make his appearance. As for height - don't tell them I said so but one overtook me around his 14th birthday and the other at about 13 and a half. I can only hope they'll be taller because we're a bit challenged in the height department in my family. My now-20 year old is just taller than his dad and his brother is catching up fast.

201BLBera
Feb 7, 2024, 12:47 pm

>190 SandDune: This does sound good, Rhian, but your comments remind me of a comment I make too often these days; so many long books would really have benefitted from a good editor! Publishing needs to step up. I look forward to hear about what your book club thinks about the book.

202alcottacre
Edited: Feb 7, 2024, 1:04 pm

>28 SandDune: I was able to buy O Caledonia for my Kindle so I hope to get to it soon, Rhian. Thank you for the recommendation.

>62 SandDune: It has been 14 years since I read that one (I checked) so probably high time for a re-read. I just need to find where my copy has wandered off to. . .

>80 SandDune: Count me in amongst the lovers of the book, but if it is not for you, so be it. I have authors that I do not get on with either. I am fairly sure we all do!

>87 SandDune: I wish my local library had more of Aiken's books! Despite my advanced age, I enjoy them :)

>96 SandDune: I have really got to get to that one in 2024. I purchased a copy last year but have not managed to read it yet!!

>122 SandDune: Humor is so very subjective, isn't it? I think I have a weird sense of humor so that things that other people find hilarious, I do not. That book sounds like one I can safely skip!

>131 SandDune: I read that several years ago. I have pleasant remembrances of the book but it was not one that I felt I needed to own despite my fondness for Shute's books on the whole.

>179 SandDune: Happy birthday, Daisy (if a bit belated)

203SandDune
Feb 7, 2024, 4:10 pm

We had our book club meeting yesterday. There were eight of us in total: two people really liked The Parisian but the rest had fairly similar views to myself. There was too much was crammed into one book and it needed a really good edit. We did agree that it was interesting for the light it shed on the beginnings of the Israel-Palestine conflict and that Isabella Hammad could write very well - it was the structure of the book that let her down.

Our next month's book is The Light Years by Elizabeth Jane Howard. I haven't read any of her books before although they have been recommended to me several times.

204richardderus
Feb 7, 2024, 4:19 pm

>203 SandDune: That kind of discussion is what makes book clubs so appealing. Hammad should be proud!

205SandDune
Feb 7, 2024, 4:20 pm

A couple of sad things today. It was my Welsh tutor's last lesson with our class. He has taught all my classes since I started studying Welsh two and a half years ago and is an excellent tutor so I will be very sorry to see him go. But he has got a better job with a different university,

And then one of the dogs that we have seen regularly on our walks ever since we got Daisy has died. Merlin was a blue staffy like Daisy, with a lovely temperament. He was 13 years old and had really slowed down in recent months. When they were both younger they used to really enjoy some rough and tumble play together, although Merlin could never keep up with Daisy, who was surprisingly quick for a staffy when she was younger. I remember when Daisy was very young, she was propositioned by Merlin's owner, who thought they would have beautiful puppies together. Which they probably would, but we decided against that. It seemed so strange to see Merlin's owner out today with his one remaining dog.

206lauralkeet
Feb 7, 2024, 5:08 pm

I'm sorry you had to say good-bye to an excellent Welsh tutor, Rhian. And that's such sad news about Merlin as well.

207vancouverdeb
Feb 8, 2024, 12:05 am

Happy Birthday to Daisy! She looks great! I'm sorry to read about Merlin dying. It's always hard to lose dog friends. Our Poppy is 10 1/2 years old, but I hope we will have her until she is 15 or so, as she a small dog.

208Owltherian
Feb 8, 2024, 12:06 am

Hi Rhian! How are you today?

209humouress
Feb 8, 2024, 12:40 am

>205 SandDune: I'm so sorry to hear about Merlin. I hope Daisy isn't taking it too hard.

That is disappointing to lose a good tutor. On the bright side, it can be good to have a different way of being taught. I find I learn best in 'stereo' ie with two different but complementary ways of learning.

210SandDune
Feb 8, 2024, 1:36 pm

>199 karenmarie: I do find that the Welsh lessons are starting to pay off now. We have a 40 minute conversation on general topics and I can keep up with that. I don't understand every word, but I understand most of what is said, and I am getting more fluent.

>200 humouress: Jacob had his growth spurt around 13 or so and was very tall for a couple of years. Now he's tall, but not excessively so. But he's a good foot taller than me. My family were all short - he get's his height from Mr SandDune's side.

>201 BLBera: Hi Beth! I can't help thinking that some books are just too long!

>202 alcottacre: I do hope you enjoy O Caledonia - it's still the book I'm pressing on everyone I know.

>204 richardderus: We all agreed that we might be prepared to try something else by the author (if it was a bit shorter).

211SandDune
Feb 8, 2024, 1:45 pm

>206 lauralkeet: >209 humouress: I've encountered quite a few of the Welsh tutors in revision courses. Most are fine but there's a couple I wouldn't want.

>208 Owltherian: Fine thanks Owl. Welcome!

>207 vancouverdeb: >209 humouress: Last time we saw Merlin (a couple of weeks ago) he looked an old, old dog. I suppose to be honest 12 to 13 is the average lifespan of a staffy, although they can go on a lot longer. Daisy and him hadn't played for several years as she finds rough play a bit much these days. Daisy is currently annoyed because she wants to go out in the garden and it's pouring with rain. She's looking at me as if she expects me to do something about it!

212humouress
Feb 9, 2024, 3:30 am

>211 SandDune: We usually leave the doors open (we have a gate) so Jasper can meander out to the garden as he pleases. He's not fond of rain (he's still cottoning on to the fact that he's a water dog, with a double coat) but with the recent excessive waterfalls we've been having, he's had to brave it for a few seconds occasionally though he manages to wait it out until it calms down a bit. Of course, he won't go out if there's thunder - but I thought I saw him contemplate it once.

213SandDune
Feb 9, 2024, 12:45 pm

>212 humouress: We usually leave the doors open I frequently do that in summer as well but a bit chilly at the moment, as well as very wet! Daisy loves water she can swim in but hates the rain, although even that is better than hail. Mr SandDune once took her out for a walk and she was running around off the lead when it started hailing. She just dived into the nearest hedge and refused point blank to come out, while Mr SandDune had to stand there getting hit by all the hailstones.

214SandDune
Edited: Feb 9, 2024, 1:03 pm

We have had a nice day out today in Cambridge. It was Jacob's 24th birthday today, and we took him and Caroline out for a meal in a Spanish restaurant, Mercado Central. Excellent food and then we all had a wander around Heffers.

I may have bought some books:

Miss Iceland Audur Ava Ólafsdóttir
When I was a Child I Read Books Marilynne Robinson
Thinking Welsh: Signposts on the Road to Fluency Gareth King
The Rough Guide to Barcelona

215richardderus
Feb 9, 2024, 1:01 pm

>214 SandDune: HBD to Jacob and Mum! A memorable day in your life for sure.

I really hope you enjoy Miss Iceland...I certainly did.

216SandDune
Feb 9, 2024, 1:04 pm

>215 richardderus: We also bought quite a lot of fudge!

217humouress
Feb 9, 2024, 1:11 pm

>214 SandDune: Happy birthday to Jacob (>215 richardderus: mum too?) and yay for book acquisitions. And fudge.

218lauralkeet
Feb 9, 2024, 1:15 pm

Happy birthday Jacob! Heffers AND fudge sounds pretty much perfect.

219FAMeulstee
Feb 9, 2024, 4:56 pm

Happy birthday to Jacob, sounds like a good day for all of you, Rhian!

220SandDune
Feb 9, 2024, 5:02 pm

>215 richardderus: Good to hear that!

>217 humouress: >218 lauralkeet: The Fudge (from Cambridge Fudge Kitchen) is particularly nice. I have been having some rhubarb and custard fudge this evening.

>219 FAMeulstee: Thanks. It was a nice day!

221richardderus
Feb 9, 2024, 5:32 pm

>220 SandDune: Enjoy your *shudder* fudge. No doubt with *shudder* tea.

>217 humouress: humouress: Sure, for mum too. Who did the work, after all.

222SandDune
Feb 9, 2024, 5:49 pm

>221 richardderus: But fudge is lovely!! And it’s just for nibbling at. It doesn’t need drinks. But to be honest I drink a lot more coffee than tea usually.

223atozgrl
Feb 9, 2024, 5:56 pm

>214 SandDune: Happy birthday to Jacob! And the fudge sounds wonderful, especially the rhubarb and custard fudge. A very interesting-sounding flavor.

224richardderus
Feb 9, 2024, 6:04 pm

>222 SandDune: I shall bow to your expertise on fudge. I dislike chocolate, so its a non-starter for me.

225vancouverdeb
Feb 9, 2024, 9:31 pm

I'll have to add Miss Iceland to my wish list. I almost always enjoy books written by and set in Iceland. Yum! Fudge - especially chocolate!

226PaulCranswick
Feb 9, 2024, 10:10 pm

>220 SandDune: & >221 richardderus: Fudge is heavenly but should only be taken in reasonably small doses. I like tea but I love coffee.

227humouress
Feb 10, 2024, 1:36 am

>221 richardderus: But of course. I was wondering if you had some inside information that it was Rhian's birthday too.

>224 richardderus: Fudge is not chocolate. It's butter and sugar and stir over a slow flame (if I remember correctly) until your arm falls off and then get someone else to take over ... ad infinitum.

You don't like chocolate Richard? Heretic! Ah well, more for me. *must remember to find some chocolate cats for Richard's thread*

>220 SandDune: Rhubarb & custard fudge sounds intriguing.

228charl08
Feb 10, 2024, 4:57 am

I do love it when you mention Heffers, Rhian. It reminds me of childhood book tokens and for me was always just a perfect bookshop. Add in the fudge and it sounds even better.

>203 SandDune: Your comments and your bookgroup comments about The Parisian make me feel less guilty about abandoning the book halfway through. I wondered if it would have been better as two books?

229BLBera
Feb 10, 2024, 9:09 am

Hi Rhian - Your day out sounds like fun. And happy birthday to Jacob!

I enjoyed the Robinson essays, and Miss Iceland has been on my shelf for a while. I just read Hotel Silence by the same author and liked it, so I may get to this soon.

230AMQS
Feb 10, 2024, 8:38 pm

Hi Rhian - sorry about your Welsh tutor and your doggie neighbor. It looks like you had a lovely day out and a great book haul!

231SandDune
Feb 11, 2024, 6:25 am

>222 SandDune: And they had just finished making the rhubarb and custard fudge as well, so it was still warm when we bought it.

>224 richardderus: >226 PaulCranswick: >227 humouress: But fudge does not taste anything like chocolate (it can have chocolate in it, although it usually doesn't). It's probably more like toffee, but with a melt-in-your-mouth consistency and a different taste. So not really very much like toffee at all. I can eat far too much fudge in one sitting, to be honest. When he was small, Jacob used to judge the quality of the gift shop at any tourist attraction that we went to on the quality of its fudge. (Pretty much all gift shops sell fudge, in my experience). But that would be the mass-produced stuff, which is nice, but not a patch on the hand-made fudge we bought on Friday.

232SandDune
Feb 11, 2024, 6:31 am

>225 vancouverdeb: >229 BLBera: I shall look forward to Miss Iceland!

>228 charl08: Jacob is particularly fond of Heffers as it has a very good history section, which can keep him occupied for hours. I also like Waterstones in Cambridge as that is particularly big.

>228 charl08: I never felt like giving up on The Parisian, but there was just too much material for one book in my opinion.

>230 AMQS: We are still waiting for news of our new tutor. Keeping my fingers crossed that it is someone good.

233SandDune
Feb 11, 2024, 6:45 am

Lots of driving around yesterday. First thing in the morning Mr SandDune took Jacob back to Hertford in time for his shift start at 8.00am. Jacob's girlfriend was on the night shift in Bishop’s Stortford (she's in the police) so couldn't take him, and it seemed a bit mean to make him go back to Hertford on his own on his birthday. The public transport between Bishop’s Stortford (where we live) and Hertford (where they live) is dreadful. It's only about 25 minutes in the car but it can take a couple of hours by public transport, more in the evening. I had my Welsh language group yesterday morning, so drove there and back (it's about an hour from here) through Hertford (but not early enough to take Jacob to work. And then about five o'clock in the afternoon I got a text from Jacob that he couldn't find his house keys and assumed that he had left them in our house. So he came back again on the bus (Caroline was still in Stortford as she was staying with her parents yesterday because of her shift patterns). But of course no keys in our house either, so I ended up driving him over to Caroline's parents on the other side of town for him to borrow her key, and then driving him back to Hertford again. He did offer to catch the train back, but it would have taken a while and it was a horrible night last night - he'd already got soaked coming over.

He's having driving lessons for his birthday, although it wouldn't have done him any good even if he could drive last night as Caroline had the car.

234SandDune
Edited: Feb 11, 2024, 9:47 am

9. The Snow-woman Stella Gibbons ***1/2



The eponymous snow-woman of the title is Maud Barrington, an unmarried woman in her seventies. It's the late 1960's in Highgate, and an old friend of Maud's, Lionel Crozier, has invited himself to tea. Despite him being one of her oldest friends Maud isn't particularly pleased to see him, and she is even less so when he arrives with the very heavily pregnant Teddie Parker in tow. And matters are not improved when Teddie goes into a rapid labour and gives birth on the sofa (great aunt Dorothea's sofa, no less). Despite being of the 'keep calm and carry on' generation, Maud is horrified, and leaving her housekeeper Millie to deal with the situation, goes out to have tea with a friend. At very unpleasant old woman, the reader thinks.

Despite barely forgiving Lionel for this incident, Maud does agree to go with him to the South of France to visit an old friend in failing health: Charles Handel, a renowned art critic and historian. It soon becomes obvious that all of Maud's personal relationships are flawed. Since her three brothers were killed in the First World War she has not allowed herself to become truly close to anyone. But a meeting with Lionel's sister Frances, who for years Maud has considered her nemesis, and who was the person who originally dubbed her the ice-woman, starts to thaw Maud's icy interior.

This book might be set in the London of the 1960's but the swinging sixties are definitely not in evidence. Maud's habits and prejudices are very much those of a different era. Meeting Teddie Parker for tea sometime after the birth, Maud might as well be meeting someone from a strange and distant land:
At every chance that presented itself during the pauses in our conversation I studied her, and I knew that she was doing the same to me. I supposed that we were in the same situation; this was the first time that I had met a girl of the working-classes socially, and the first time that she had had tea with a lady.


This book is an excellent portrayal of how misunderstandings can impact the complex relationships between friends over a lifetime. The plot was a little far-fetched at times, but the depictions of the interactions between the characters was excellent. And its depiction of the class system of the time depicts a different world. So, altogether an enjoyable read.

235SandDune
Feb 11, 2024, 9:55 am

>234 SandDune: I also meant to complain about the cover for The Snow-Woman. Don't illustrators ever read the books they are illustrating, or at least get a synopsis? Looking at the cover art the reader expects that this is a book set in a snowy winter in the English countryside. In actual fact the events of the book take place in a suburb of London and the south of France largely during spring and summer. There is absolutely no snow!

236BLBera
Feb 11, 2024, 10:35 am

>235 SandDune: That is funny, in a depressing sort of way.
The Snow-Woman sounds great; I will add it to my WL.

Jacob had quite a birthday!

237SandDune
Edited: Feb 11, 2024, 2:16 pm

10. Hen Ferchetan Ewan Smith



A learner book based on the traditional Welsh song 'Hen Ferchetan' or 'Old Maid'.

Here's a version of the original song:

https://youtu.be/AeLF9Y4Vd3w?si=B9rEOR8Svx962MtU

238richardderus
Feb 11, 2024, 2:26 pm

Not-chocolate fudge is far from the US norm, so it just does not occur to me to imagine suchlike carryins-on. Still, this information makes the world a bit brighter for me as I can now go to a fudge store in a local mall and not have to walk around with a sneer at the chocoholics getting their fix. I would vacuum a lot of rhubarb and custard fudge!

Week-ahead's reads of glory, Rhian.

239SandDune
Feb 11, 2024, 4:38 pm

>238 richardderus: Non-chocolate fudge is definitely more normal here. Either plain (or vanilla flavour) or clotted cream.

240quondame
Feb 11, 2024, 5:18 pm

I like maple fudge, but nothing beats chocolate fudge except chocolate fudge with walnuts. Light, dark, as long as it's not white, chocolate is my go to!

241magicians_nephew
Feb 11, 2024, 6:28 pm

Best (chocolate and non chocolate) fudge I ever had was discovered by change in a little giftee shoppe on the High Street in Halifax. It sat there fresh made under waxed paper qnd the proprietor would just hack you off a chunk and weigh it and there you were. Amazing.

We sometimes talk about finding places to Hide if Trump gets in the White House again, and my top pick is Halifax at least in part for the fudge.

242SandDune
Edited: Feb 12, 2024, 8:48 am

11. Pod Laline Paull ****



Ia is a spinner dolphin, (Stenella longirostri) a member of the Longi tribe, but Ia is not quite the same as the others:

She knew she was valued for being a good hunter, but what Ea craved was to be normal. To spin like everyone else was the key to fitting in, and if she could only hear the music of the ocean like everyone else, she too would be able to tune in and do it. She was fast, healthy and wanted so badly to succeed – but she had never heard the music. Spinning was the Longi’s art form, it was dance, athleticism, most commonly just for entertainment and sport, but it also held a spiritual element. It was union with the ocean itself and everyone who experienced that state even once, shone with authentic Longi joy
.


As the dolphins prepare to celebrate their annual Exodus, the celebration of their escape from their ancestral homeland, from which they were driven by a pod of the much larger bottlenose dolphins, (Tursiops truncatus), Ea is struck by another separation from the rest of the pod. A remora fish attaches itself to her, something that the Longi considers shameful. As she attempts to remove the fish she does not pay attention to her surroundings, and her mother is killed trying to protect Ea from a marauding shark that Ea has not seen. In her horror Ea leaves the pod and finds herself caught up in a power struggle within the male dominated and more violent Tursiops megapod.

This is a beautifully written story of the inhabitants of a small part of ocean. But this is no tropical idyll and at times can be horrifying: fish and dolphins are caught in an ever expanding mass of plastic waste; coral reefs are dying; oil is spilling; and ,most horrifying of all, dolphins are being trained as expendable weapons of war.

I've read Laline Paull's The Bees and that didn't grab me. I enjoyed Pod much more, perhaps because I can imagine dolphins having the sort of social life and hierarchies that are depicted here, whereas bees .... no. And I love dolphins.

243SandDune
Feb 12, 2024, 8:55 am

>240 quondame: While I love chocolate I almost never go for chocolate flavour fudge. Clotted cream is my favourite one of the standard flavours.

>241 magicians_nephew: When anyone mentions Halifax (I'm assuming Nova Scotia) I have to get my brain in gear as my immediate thoughts are Halifax, Yorkshire, as that is where Mr SandDune is from. I have been to Halifax, Nova Scotia though, back in 2008 and I think it would win out as a bolt hole!

244vancouverdeb
Feb 13, 2024, 8:17 pm

I guess I have to weigh in on the fudge discussion. Chocolate fudge is definitely my favourite. My sister how ever prefers brown sugar fudge, and even penuche. I've never heard of clotted cream fudge. Interesting discussion.

>234 SandDune: I purchased Cold Comfort Farm last fall, and I've still not gotten to it. I'll need to that this year, Rhian.

245SandDune
Feb 14, 2024, 8:22 am

>244 vancouverdeb: Well I'd never heard of penuche, but I googled it and to me it looked very like what I consider 'normal' fudge. If you buy fudge here outside of a specialist fudge shop it's almost certain to be vanilla or clotted cream.

>244 vancouverdeb: You definitely need to get around to Cold Comfort Farm. It's wonderful.

246SandDune
Feb 14, 2024, 12:17 pm

Well I'm seriously annoyed this afternoon! I had an email from S.N.C.F. (the French railway people) telling me that our train to Barcelona has been cancelled because of a strike. There were no alternative trains that weren't either also cancelled or full, so we've had to resort to booking a flight, which I really didn't want to do. (I'm trying to avoid flying for environmental reasons). So we've got the money back for the Paris-Barcelona leg, but the Eurostar tickets are non-refundable. I think I'd probably be able to claim the money back for mine on my travel insurance (I've got an annual policy at the moment), but Mr SandDune hasn't bought any travel insurance yet despite me having reminded him about it several times in the last few weeks. But we can change the dates on the tickets, so looks like we will behaving an impromptu trip to Paris at some stage over the next few months!

247AMQS
Feb 14, 2024, 12:44 pm

Ugh, I'm sorry - that is annoying. Impromptu trip to Paris sounds fun though;)

248SandDune
Feb 14, 2024, 1:04 pm

>247 AMQS: We haven’t been to Paris for years, but we are going to France in the summer, so probably wouldn’t choose to have gone this year to be honest. But it will be nice. We’re going to pick dates after we’ve eaten.

249SandDune
Feb 14, 2024, 1:58 pm

I do feel that my efforts to travel by train around Europe have been a bit jinxed. We were going to go to Poland by train in the summer of 2020 but we all know what happened then ….

250dianeham
Feb 14, 2024, 3:44 pm

Hi Rhian! I’ve been quietly lurking on your thread and wanted to mention that the other day I had mint chocolate chip fudge. I have never seen what you call normal fudge. But I’m tempted to make it s I can taste it.

251BLBera
Feb 14, 2024, 10:02 pm

>246 SandDune: Sorry about your travel plans.

252humouress
Feb 14, 2024, 11:43 pm

>249 SandDune: Ah - so the whole thing was your fault! ;0)

253magicians_nephew
Feb 15, 2024, 4:43 pm

The Eurostar and the Channel Tunnel are definitely on my bucket list.

I do love trains.

254ursula
Feb 16, 2024, 5:29 am

>246 SandDune: Ugh, train strikes.

255The_Hibernator
Feb 20, 2024, 2:16 pm

>248 SandDune: What dates were picked?

256SandDune
Feb 23, 2024, 8:29 am

>250 dianeham: I Hope you enjoy the 'real' fudge if you get around to making some.

>251 BLBera: >252 humouress: >253 magicians_nephew: >254 ursula: Well we are back from Barcelona now (some pictures to follow) and the plane travel was fine. We live close to the airport so it was actually very convenient. We had a lovely time, although I'm feeling pretty exhausted now, as we managed an average of about 19,000 steps a day exploring Barcelona. And, as we were staying with my nephew and his family, we had some lively little children about in the evening, so there was no time for posting then.

>253 magicians_nephew: The Eurostar isn't as good as it used to be unfortunately. You used to be able to turn up 20 minutes beforehand and just get on the plane, and passports were checked on board. Now, it's more like an airport style security and passports are all checked first. Which, because of Brexit and passports having to be stamped now, means that there are actually fewer Eurostar trains as they can't process the passport queue quickly enough.

>255 The_Hibernator: We've booked for mid-September.

257Whisper1
Feb 23, 2024, 8:45 am

Rhian, 19,000 steps a day must be exhausting. It sounds like you had a lot of fun! Now, perhaps you can rest.

258SandDune
Feb 23, 2024, 12:42 pm

>257 Whisper1: It's tiring for me, especially if I'm doing it for a few days in a row. Mr SandDune's normal step count is about 16,000 steps a day, so he doesn't get tired at all!

259SandDune
Edited: Feb 23, 2024, 1:35 pm

So this is what we did in Barcelona.

Sunday, we walked from my nephew's apartment into the Gothic Quarter, and wandered around there most of the day. Lots of narrow alleyways, interesting little shops and restaurants...







Later in the afternoon we went to the Picasso Museum ...

Then the next day we went to the top of the Montjuic hill via Funicular, walked around the Botanic Gardens and had a quick peek into the Olympic Stadium (where Barcelona are playing this year as Camp Nou is being refurbished apparently). Then a late lunch in a Galician- Mexican restaurant (interesting combination) and looking around an open air museum.

260SandDune
Edited: Feb 23, 2024, 1:46 pm

Tuesday we had a trip on the train to the seaside at Sitges, just along the coast. Actually, Barcelona is on the coast as well and does have beaches, but Sitges is a proper holiday resort with some lovely beaches and an interesting old town. Lovely weather and paella for lunch ...





261SandDune
Feb 23, 2024, 1:46 pm

Wednesday we had a walking tour telling us about the history of the Spanish Civil War in Barcelona, which was extremely interesting. As the most industrialised part of Spain, Barcelona was pivotal in the events of that period. We had an excellent guide who put it into context very well, and it became clearer why there is an independence movement with Catalunya.

incidentally we noticed on this visit to Barcelona that absolutely any public notice or sign is in Catalan first, Spanish second. I can't remember if that was the case the last time we went which would have been the beginning of 2004.

Tapas for lunch:



Wednesday afternoon we visited the remains of the old Roman city of Barcino, underneath modern day Barcelona.

262SandDune
Feb 23, 2024, 2:12 pm

Our last day was Thursday (yesterday) but our plane was not until the evening so we had plenty of time for more sightseeing. This time a walk along the waterfront visiting the Catalonian History Museum, which was excellent, and gave a lot more context as to why some Catalonians don't want to be part of Spain. And then probably our best meal of the week, more tapas (more substantial ones this time) in the Barcoloneta area: patates bravas; roasted vegetables; fried fish; and sausage with onions. Then 'leche frita' (fried milk) which was delicious but tasted as if it contained about a million calories.

Going back to the language issue, I hadn't realised previously that Catalan was so widely spoken (apparently there are about 10 million speakers). My great-nephew goes to a Catalan speaking school, slightly confusing for him as he has just come out if a Spanish speaking nursery.

263klobrien2
Feb 23, 2024, 2:20 pm

Your trip looks and sounds magnificent! Thank you so much for sharing the photographs!

Karen O

264SandDune
Feb 23, 2024, 2:21 pm

I should mention that I bought a new book in Barcelona:

A Broken Mirror by Mercè Rodoreda.

And finished two more:

The Light Years Elizabeth Jane Howard
Planetfall Emma Newman

265katiekrug
Feb 23, 2024, 2:40 pm

Thank you for sharing your trip with us! I have a friend teaching in Barcelona this year, and I would love to go for a visit but Id on't htink it's in the cards. Perhaps she'll extend her contract :)

266richardderus
Feb 23, 2024, 3:17 pm

>264 SandDune: The book report at last! I thought I was going to be compelled to ask. The Catalan government used to send out samplers of translations to US presses back in the 1980s, and I would ask why we never picked up one. I do not think publishing has changed all that much.

What an excellent holiday, and thank you for sharing the lovely photos with us. *smooch*

267lauralkeet
Feb 23, 2024, 3:19 pm

Thank you for sharing your holiday photos, Rhian. I love learning the history of places we visit. Walking tours are great for that, with the added bonus of seeing interesting neighborhoods and architecture.

268dianeham
Feb 23, 2024, 3:49 pm

>264 SandDune: when you said Catalan, I thought I read an author who was Catalan! I read Death in Spring by Mercè Rodoreda which I gave 4 stars. I also have Garden by the Sea but haven’t read it. Looking forward to hearing about the one you bought.

269quondame
Edited: Feb 23, 2024, 5:45 pm

>259 SandDune: >260 SandDune: >261 SandDune: I love the pictures. That looks grand!

270humouress
Feb 24, 2024, 3:18 am

Beautiful buildings and delicious looking food! Your holiday looks lovely, Rhian.

271SandDune
Feb 24, 2024, 3:57 am

>263 klobrien2: >269 quondame: >270 humouress: We have been to Barcelona before, but with Jacob when he was small (just coming up to four I think). Jacob was always very good at sightseeing and eating new foods but he drew the line at art galleries, so we did a little bit more of that this time.

>265 katiekrug: It’s a great city to visit. Such a lot to see - we’ve got plenty left over for another visit. We didn’t see any of the Gaudi stuff this time, but we’ve done that previously. I don’t think I’d like to have a summer visit though. I think it would be far too busy and just too hot for sightseeing. This week it was warm enough to eat outside at lunchtime (if you were wearing a sweater) apart from the last day, which was a bit cooler and more windy. So perfect sightseeing weather really.

272SandDune
Feb 24, 2024, 4:09 am

>266 richardderus: We only went to one bookshop (unless you count the Picasso Museum Shop which did have a fair few books) and that didn’t have a very large English selection. But I was able to get the book by Mercè Rodereda, a local author, which is set during the period of the Spanish Civil War.

I wasn’t really expecting too much book browsing, as compared to some other European countries, Spain has a fairly low percentage of the population that speaks English, so not as many English books as other places.

Spain is actually the country where I have had most difficulty in not speaking the language. Not in the very touristy areas like Barcelona, but we had a holiday on the North coast of Spain once. Admittedly it was quite a long time ago, but in the whole two weeks we only found three people who spoke any English at all. I was in dread of losing the phrase book, as neither of us spoke any Spanish either.

273vancouverdeb
Feb 24, 2024, 4:24 am

Your trip looks beautiful and so interesting, Rhian! The Gothic Quarter in Barcelona looks beautiful. Our buildings in Canada aren't very old for the most part, so it is fascinating to me. I'm not sure if the fried milk sounds appealing to me, but good for your for trying different dishes. The other food sounds very good.

274SandDune
Edited: Feb 24, 2024, 8:19 am

>273 vancouverdeb: I really liked the 'fried milk' so I've found a recipe. Doesn't look too difficult...

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/feb/20/leche-frita-recipe-caramel-blood-or...

To be honest I'll eat most things. I'm not keen on avocados (in large quantities anyway) or dried vine fruit, but I will eat them if necessary. And I try to avoid octopus since we had a trip with a marine biologist in Greece telling us how intelligent they are. And I think I would struggle with something that was visibly an insect ... But anything else really.

I remember my Mum and Dad having a driving holiday around the paradors of Spain back in the 1980's, outside the main tourist areas. They only spoke English but in most of the hotels they went to there were no English speakers. They ended up ordering the first thing on the menu in the restaurants and hoping for the best!

275richardderus
Feb 24, 2024, 8:52 am

>272 SandDune: It is true that Spain, alongside the deep-south of Italy, is the European destination where some command of the local language repays the traveler most. Since Catalunya is distinct from Spain, their English-speaking tends to be more prevalent because so few travelers speak Català. Rodoreda is becoming more and more available in English translation, thank goodness. Open Letter in the US is a mainly-translations publisher that puts out her work, among many other novelists and poets in multiple languages.

276humouress
Feb 24, 2024, 10:10 am

>274 SandDune: On one holiday in the south of Spain in the 80s we drove up into the hills behind Malaga and around lunchtime tried to find a local place but everything was shut. We hadn't realised (being on holiday) that it was the Easter weekend. We finally found somewhere, quite late, and ended up getting a broadbean omelette - not one of my favourite meals. But definitely memorable.

277SandDune
Edited: Feb 24, 2024, 11:07 am

>275 richardderus: It was combined with neither of us having any Spanish at all. When we were at school Spanish was rarely taught- it was all French and (possibly) German, although it's much more prevalent now. I've got enough French and Italian to get by in most normal tourist situations, and Mr SandDune has French and basic German, but neither of us has done Spanish.

>276 humouress: Broadbean omelette doesn't appeal that much to be honest!

278BLBera
Feb 24, 2024, 10:46 am

Thanks for sharing your Barcelona trip with us, Rhian. I love that city. You packed a lot into a few days!

279humouress
Feb 24, 2024, 11:14 am

>277 SandDune: We didn't speak Spanish either and didn't have much choice. I'd have preferred it without the beans.

280Caroline_McElwee
Feb 24, 2024, 4:08 pm

>159 SandDune: etc etc and so forth. Looks lovely Rhian. It's a while since I was there. Did a lot of Gaudi and the Picasso museum (not as good as the Paris one IMO).

Impressive buffet.

281atozgrl
Feb 24, 2024, 10:34 pm

Thanks, Rhian, for sharing your pictures and letting us know what you did on your trip. It sounds like a lot of fun, and you learned a lot about Catalonia. I think I would be out of shape for that much walking. I've just got to get out and do more. It definitely sounds like the better time of year to go; I don't think I'd want to be there in the summer either.

282PaulCranswick
Feb 24, 2024, 11:49 pm

>264 SandDune: Well it looks like we both bought Planetfall at pretty much the same time, Rhian!

283SandDune
Feb 25, 2024, 9:42 am

>278 BLBera: >279 humouress: >280 Caroline_McElwee: It's a lovely city, isn't it.

>280 Caroline_McElwee: It's a very long time since I've been to the Picasso museum in Paris, but I think you are probably right. But the Barcelona one was interesting in showing his development from a more traditional to a modern style.

>281 atozgrl: I did notice that I'm getting a little bit fitter. The aqua aerobics must be paying off!

>282 PaulCranswick: I didn't think it was a great book, but I certainly enjoyed it. I'll probably carry on with the series.

284Caroline_McElwee
Feb 25, 2024, 5:20 pm

>283 SandDune: I haven't seen the Paris Picasso post the big renovation yet. Maybe next year.

285Whisper1
Feb 25, 2024, 5:29 pm

Rhian, Thanks for sharing your wonderful vacation with us. I love the images you took and posted here! It sounds like a wonderful time.

286Sakerfalcon
Feb 26, 2024, 8:40 am

Thanks for sharing your Barcelona photos! I'm glad you had a lovely time. It is such a great city to explore.

287SandDune
Edited: Feb 26, 2024, 3:05 pm

12. The Light Years Elizabeth Jane Howard ****



The first instalment of the five volume Cazalet series, a family saga which takes the reader from 1937 to the 1950s. In The Light Years we meet the family in the years just before the Second World War as the three brothers, Edward, Hugh and Rupert, and their respective families join their parents and their unmarried sister Rachel at their parents' country house for the summer. Against this backdrop the day to day life of an upper middle class family is played out: infidelities, pregnancies, money worries and childish quarrels all play their part, as well as darker events. And in the background there is the worry of impending war ...

There is little overall plot to this book but it creates some very believable (and flawed characters and does an excellent job of describing the minutiae of family life in a well off family during this period. The little details of the physical details of people's day to day lives made the story come alive for me:

They had all had the statutory piece of plain bread and butter, followed by as many pieces of bread and jam as they pleased (the Duchy did not approve of butter and jam–‘a bit rich’, her uttermost condemnation) and then there were flapjacks and cake, and then there were raspberries and cream–all washed down by mugs of creamy milk that Mr York had delivered from the farm that morning.


(I wonder what it was about bread and butter and jam that was so shocking to middle-class families? We have a friend the same age as us who similarly was allowed bread and jam or bread and butter but never the two together!)
The Cazalets may be prosperous, but the choices available to the women in particular are stultifying, particularly for the youngest sister Rachel, in love with another woman but with no way of openly expressing that love. It will be interesting to see what changes take place in social attitudes as the series progresses.

This wasn't a book that I expected to enjoy very much (I read it for my book club), but I was drawn in, and will continue the series.

288BLBera
Feb 27, 2024, 9:32 am

I enjoyed the Cazalet series very much, Rhian. In fact, I think I only read four books...I'll have to look for book 5.

289lauralkeet
Feb 27, 2024, 9:36 am

You're tempting me, Rhian. I do like a good family saga and it's been ages since I read one. I think I'll give this one a try.

290SandDune
Edited: Feb 27, 2024, 3:49 pm

13. Planetfall Emma Newman



On a planet a very long way away from Earth a young man approaches the settlement built to the side of God's City. But there aren't supposed to be any other people outside the settlement ... When Ren and Mack go to investigate they discover he is Lee Sung-Soo, the child of a man who was believed to have perished in an accident years previously when the settlers first came to the planet.

“Where are the rest of the people who . . .”
Mack doesn’t know how to describe them. Sung-Soo’s eyes lose their joy.
“They died. I’m the only one left.”
Mack takes the pack from his shoulders and puts it on his own back; then we both take an arm, wrap it over our shoulders and hoist him up between us. There’s barely any weight to him at all.
We head back toward the colony, and I can’t help but look up at God’s city, just like Sung-Soo does but with less wonder.
I’m used to it now, but it still draws my eyes up.
It stretches above the colony like a huge forest of ancient baobab trees tangled around one another, forming an organic citadel. The outer membranes of the structure are black, to absorb the most sunlight, and at this time in the morning the nodules at the top of the structure are spherical.
“To manage the heat,” he says, nodding. “My father taught me some of my grandma’s knowledge.”
Mack’s silence feels like a fourth person stalking us through the grasses.


Sung-Soho's arrival causes the normally placid environment of the settlement to become uneasy - he is also the grandson of the Pathfinder who led the expedition from Earth years before, in a quasi religious attempt to find God. The Pathfinder entered God's City many years previously, and the settlers are still awaiting her return. Could the arrival of her grandson be a sign from God himself?

Gradually it becomes apparent that both Mack and Ren are concealing something about what happened at Planetfall, a secret that is threatened by the arrival of Sung-Soo.

This was a readable and thoughtful sci-fi that didn't end up quite where I was expecting. I'll continue with this series.

291SandDune
Feb 27, 2024, 3:59 pm

Well we have some news. Jacob and Caroline are moving back to Stortford from Hertford in the next couple of weeks, as she has been transferred to Bishop’s Stortford police station on a permanent basis. And we have been chosen as the parents of choice where they are going to live while they find somewhere more permanent. It shouldn't take too long as there seems to be suitable accommodation in Stortford within their price range, but we will definitely have a full house for a month or two! Daisy will be ecstatic!

292SandDune
Feb 27, 2024, 4:07 pm

>288 BLBera: I think the fifth novel was written quite a bit later, just before she dies.

>289 lauralkeet: Family sagas aren't usually my think, but I did enjoy this one and, somewhat surprisingly Mr SandDune is enjoying it too.

293Caroline_McElwee
Feb 27, 2024, 4:16 pm

>291 SandDune: It sounds like Daisy has been casting her doggie spells ha!

294lauralkeet
Feb 27, 2024, 5:01 pm

Wonderful news for Jacob and Caroline! I recall you saying the journey to Hertford required a car and was a longer trip than you might think, so it will be nice to have them nearby. It says a lot for you as parents—and them as young adults—that they are able to move in with you to start.

295Sakerfalcon
Feb 28, 2024, 8:46 am

>290 SandDune: I loved Planetfall when I first read it, and have found the sequels to be just as strong.

>291 SandDune: That's exciting news!

296humouress
Feb 28, 2024, 9:16 am

>291 SandDune: Lucky Daisy!

297BLBera
Feb 28, 2024, 11:37 am

>291 SandDune: That is exciting news!

Planetfall sounds good. I will add it to my WL. I don't read a lot of science fiction, but this sounds like the type I like.

298richardderus
Feb 28, 2024, 12:43 pm

>291 SandDune: Yay for Daisy getting her big brother back, however temporarily. Enjoy Waterstones-ing there when they move.

Wednesday orisons, Rhian.

299SandDune
Edited: Feb 28, 2024, 4:55 pm

>293 Caroline_McElwee: >294 lauralkeet: >295 Sakerfalcon: >296 humouress: >297 BLBera: Jacob and Caroline weren't happy with their accommodation in Hertford, so were looking for somewhere else anyway. But now it makes no sense for them to sign a twelve month lease in Hertford. It does mean that Jacob will need to find a new temporary job, but there are probably more jobs here because we are close to Stansted Airport and they are always recruiting. And apparently prices for the sort of accommodation they want are a little lower here - there is probably a better supply of flats here than in Hertford - so that will be a little easier for them.

>298 richardderus: I think Daisy has always regarded Jacob as her big brother to be honest. She always wanted to be doing what Jacob was doing when he was younger. We shall have to be careful that she does not get fat, as she tends to get a lot more treats when Jacob and Caroline are about! There is no bookshop in Hertford, which I don't think Jacob has really come to terms with at all.

>295 Sakerfalcon: I think I will definitely read the next book in the series.

300SandDune
Feb 28, 2024, 4:58 pm

I have a new book which I will be recommending to all and sundry for the next few months: Glorious Exploits by Ferdia Lennon. A very moving story set in ancient Syracuse. Highly recommended. Review to follow.

301humouress
Feb 29, 2024, 2:36 am

>299 SandDune: There is no bookshop in Hertford,

This explains everything. It sounds like a win-win for them to move closer to you.

302SandDune
Feb 29, 2024, 3:28 am

>301 humouress: Well to be fair there is an Oxfam second hand bookshop. And a W.H.Smith’s. People kept telling him about the W.H.Smith’s when he moved there first and he kept looking at them as if they were mad …
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