SandDune reads in 2025 - Part 1

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SandDune reads in 2025 - Part 1

1SandDune
Edited: Dec 29, 2024, 11:08 am

Welcome to my first thread of 2025 and to my fourteenth year doing the 75 Book Challenge. I've been retired (from accountancy) for nearly four years now - my husband (aka Mr SandDune) now works part-time as a history teacher but shows no signs of retiring fully. We live about thirty miles north of London although retirement may take us elsewhere in the U.K. Our 24 year old son Jacob, who lives with his long-term girlfriend Caroline in a nearby town, is now training as an English teacher. We have a 12 year old Staffordshire Bull Terrier called Daisy, who I talk about a lot.

I'm originally from Wales rather than England, so I do have an interest in all things Welsh and I tend to get huffy if people call me English rather than Welsh! I've been studying the Welsh language seriously for the last three and a half years and am now doing the advanced course.

I read mainly literary fiction, science-fiction and fantasy, and some crime (but nothing too gruesome). As far as non-fiction goes I’m interested in a number of topics, in particular books about the environment and nature. I’m also starting to read books in Welsh, although still only ones designed for learners or children at the moment.

All my family are avid readers. Jacob has inherited a love of reading science-fiction and fantasy from me and a love of reading history from Mr SandDune so our books are frequently shared. I read hardbacks, paperbacks, on kindle and listen to audio books particularly when driving or walking the dog.

Apart from reading I love travelling, eating out, and going to the theatre. Since my retirement I've been enjoying craft activities, particularly crochet. I dabble in family history from time to time as well. I'm also getting more and more concerned about environmental issues: I'm a member of the local Green Party and have been quite involved in campaigning on climate change.

I thought I'd illustrate my threads this year with photos of Wales, so here's one from my hometown Porthcawl, which can be relied on to produce very dramatic waves on a reasonably regular basis. I have a copy of this one on my wall at home:

2SandDune
Edited: Dec 29, 2024, 11:14 am

3SandDune
Edited: Feb 28, 2025, 2:15 pm

Books Read in 2025:
1. Orbital Samantha Harvey ****
2. Stone Yard Devotional Charlotte Wood ****1/2
3. English Pastoral: An Inheritance James Rebanks *****
4. The Great Fortune Olivia Manning ***1/2
5. Bookshops & Bonedust Travis Baldree **
6. Vengeance in Venice Philip Gwynne Jones ***1/2
7. Act of Oblivion Robert Harris ****1/2
8. The Other Valley Scott Alexander Howard ***
9. Shards of Honour Lois McMaster Bujold ****
10. Barrayar Lois McMaster Bujold ****
11. August Blue Deborah Levy ***
12. Held Anne Michaels ***

Films Watched in 2025:
1. The Zone of Interest 2023 ****1/2
2. All of Us Strangers 2023 ****
3. 45 years 2015 ***1/2
4. Perfect Days 2023 *****
5. Past Lives 2023 ****
6. Civil War 2024 ****
7. Elevation 2024 **

4drneutron
Dec 29, 2024, 1:30 pm

Welcome back!

5ArlieS
Dec 29, 2024, 2:04 pm

Hiya SandDune. I've starred your thread, and might even manage to keep up this year, but no promises.

6SandDune
Dec 29, 2024, 2:22 pm

>4 drneutron: Thanks Jim! Congratulations on the Sun probe by the way.

>5 ArlieS: Welcome! I'm not great at keeping up myself.

7PaulCranswick
Dec 29, 2024, 7:26 pm

I will be keeping up with you again in 2025, Rhian, as much as possible.

8vancouverdeb
Dec 31, 2024, 2:12 am

Happy New Thread, Rhian and Happy New Year!

9SandDune
Dec 31, 2024, 3:41 am

>7 PaulCranswick: >8 vancouverdeb: Welcome & Happy New Year!

10PawsforThought
Dec 31, 2024, 5:20 am

Hi Rhian! Happy new thread and happy new year!
The photo of waves crashing in Porthcowl is incredible - I completely understand why you’d have it on your wall. As always looking forward to seeing what you’ll end up doing and reading in the coming year (and hope I’ll be better at visiting the thread).

11Caroline_McElwee
Dec 31, 2024, 6:54 am



I hope 2025 will bea good vintage Rhian, I look forward to following along with your reading.

12SandDune
Edited: Dec 31, 2024, 7:11 am

>10 PawsforThought: It is a great photo, isn't it? Waves breaking over Porthcawl pier tend to be the go-to photo for the BBC, and several other news organisations, whenever we have a big storm as impressive photos are almost guaranteed.

What you can't really see in the photo is the pier itself (it's under the waves), which is what causes all the waves when the water hits it. Well, that and the fact that the water can be pretty deep at that point - the Bristol Channel has the second highest tides in the world - and the storms just come straight up the Bristol Channel from the Atlantic.

The pier was the site of a traumatic incident from Jacob's childhood (at least he clearly thought so at the time). He was about five or six and we were visiting my mother in Porthcawl and Jacob and I were taking a walk along the sea front. It was a nice day so we thought we'd walk along to the end of the pier. Being a native Porthcawl girl I checked the sea carefully and looked to make sure that the waves hadn't reached the pier (they hadn't). Quite a few people walking on the pier and fishermen at the end, as per usual. But as we walked along the lower part of the pier an unusually large wave came along (you can't see the waves coming from where we were), hit the other side, and all the spray came down on top of us. I held Jacob's hand tightly and made him stay still - I didn't want him running and falling as there's a drop and no barriers. But when the spray stopped we realised that it had only fallen in about a ten foot wide circle around us. Nobody else on the pier was even slightly damp whereas we were drenched to the skin. We had a very squelchy walk back to my mother's house - Jacob complained he had pools in his pockets but apart from that didn't speak to me for the rest of the afternoon. I think it was the fact that the other people on the pier clearly found the whole situation very amusing that upset him more than anything!

13SandDune
Dec 31, 2024, 7:12 am

>11 Caroline_McElwee: Welcome Caroline!

14CDVicarage
Dec 31, 2024, 9:53 am

Hello, Rhian, it's my fourteenth year, too!

15richardderus
Dec 31, 2024, 12:33 pm

Let's resolve to do this more.

16PaulCranswick
Dec 31, 2024, 7:39 pm



Happy 2025, Rhian.

17EllaTim
Dec 31, 2024, 8:16 pm

Happy New Year, Rhian.

>1 SandDune: I love that photo, dramatic. I use the weather app Windy, it also has a map of the ocean waves. The Atlantic can be very spectacular to see.

18LovingLit
Jan 1, 2025, 5:08 am

>1 SandDune: >12 SandDune: lovely image of the pier and wave! I love a dramatic image :) And the story fleshes it out nicely.
Happy new year of reading to you!

19lauralkeet
Jan 1, 2025, 7:37 am

Happy New Year, Rhian!

20alcottacre
Jan 1, 2025, 8:58 am

>2 SandDune: I love seeing everyone's lists! Thanks for sharing yours. Prophet Song was a 5-star read for me too.

Happy New Year, Rhian!

21msf59
Jan 1, 2025, 9:03 am

Happy New Thread, Rhian. Happy New Year. I am glad you are joining us for The Balkan Trilogy. I enjoy these shared reads.

22SandDune
Jan 1, 2025, 9:05 am

>14 CDVicarage: >15 richardderus: >16 PaulCranswick: >17 EllaTim: >18 LovingLit: >19 lauralkeet: Happy New Year everyone! Here's a picture of fireworks over the River Thames to welcome in the New Year. (From last year, not this year. I don't think I'd have wanted to be watching the fireworks this year to be honest - 1st January blew in with loads of rain and 50mph winds.)



We welcomed the New Year playing board games with Caroline's parents - first Tsuro (a quick game I hadn't played before) and then Ticket to Ride Asia (which is a team game). Today the weather is ideal for staying in and reading, so that's what I've been doing: Orbital by Samantha Harvey.

23SandDune
Jan 1, 2025, 9:09 am

>20 alcottacre: >21 msf59: Happy New Year Stasia & Mark too! We cross-posted.

>17 EllaTim: >18 LovingLit: The coast is my happy place and I could watch the waves all day. I remember my Dad taking me to see the waves crashing over the prom on stormy nights with a high tide. I loved it! Probably not great for health and safety looking back ....

24sirfurboy
Jan 1, 2025, 9:29 am

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.

>22 SandDune: Yeah, I wouldn't have wanted to. And all this fireworks nonsense is just annoying (bah humbug!) Last night midnight came in with a sigh of wind and a blessed silence. I went to sleep and was woken up 15 minutes later by some numpty celebrating 12.15 instead.

Good thing it is only new year once a year... oh wait... is it?

Anyway, grumpiness aside, dropped my star. ⭐️

25ChrisG1
Jan 1, 2025, 10:22 am

Happy New Year from one retired accountant to another!

26Ameise1
Jan 1, 2025, 11:36 am

I sincerely wish you a happy, healthy and fulfilling new year. May all your wishes come true. Happy reading 2025.

27SandDune
Jan 1, 2025, 2:25 pm

>24 sirfurboy: Well I do quite like fireworks, but since we've had a dog who found them deeply scary I have wished that they didn't go on for quite so long in November. But now she has gone deaf, and so she can't hear them any more.

>25 ChrisG1: >26 Ameise1: Happy New Year!

28Oberon
Jan 1, 2025, 2:33 pm

Happy New Year. Love the opening photograph!

29The_Hibernator
Jan 1, 2025, 2:54 pm

Happy New Year! We didn't have many fireworks here. Someone set some off at 10pm, but that's about it.

30laytonwoman3rd
Jan 1, 2025, 3:15 pm

Count me as another follower who may have trouble keeping up, but will always check in periodically. Happy New Year!

31Crazymamie
Jan 1, 2025, 3:21 pm

Happy New Year, Rhian! Love your topper!

32BLBera
Jan 1, 2025, 8:04 pm

Happy New Year, Rhian. I loved Orbital

33thornton37814
Jan 1, 2025, 8:28 pm

Enjoy your 2025 reading!

34ronincats
Jan 1, 2025, 10:31 pm

Happy New Year, Rhian!

35SandDune
Edited: Jan 2, 2025, 7:28 am

1. Orbital Samantha Harvey ****



Winner of the 2024 Booker Prize.

Samantha Harvey introduces her book set on the International Space Station better than I ever could :

Six of them in a great H of metal hanging above the Earth. They turn head on heel, four astronauts (American, Japanese, British, Italian) and two cosmonauts (Russian, Russian); two women, four men, one space station made up of seventeen connecting modules, seventeen and a half thousand miles an hour. They are the latest six of many, nothing unusual about this any more, routine astronauts in earth's backyard. Earth's fabulous and improbable backyard. Turning head in heel in the slow drift of their hurtle, head on hip on hand on heel, turning and turning with the days. The days rush.

Orbital follows the a period of 24 hours as the space station makes a total of 16 orbits around the Earth. Sixteen sunrises and sixteen sunsets, tracking westward each time. On the space station the crew go about their relatively mundane tasks while on Earth a super-typhoon builds and threaten the islands of the Western Pacific. There is virtually no plot: the crew reflect on their day to day tasks and on their lives back on Earth; the practicalities of life in microgravity are described in detail; and the ever-changing Earth and Moon provides a constant backdrop. Nevertheless, Samantha Harvey's beautiful prose holds the attention throughout.

This book has been described as a science-fiction, although I don't think I would describe it as such, I think because it presents a fictionalised account of a present day environment without any dramatic elements that distract from reality.

This is the first Samantha Harvey I have read and I'm looking forward to reading more of her work.

36lauralkeet
Jan 2, 2025, 7:23 am

I'm awaiting Orbital from the library, Rhian. I'm reading it because it won the Booker and the writing has been highly praised all over the place. I'm glad it's not too science-fiction-ey as that's not really my thing.

37SandDune
Edited: Jan 2, 2025, 7:31 am

>28 Oberon: >29 The_Hibernator: >30 laytonwoman3rd: >31 Crazymamie: >32 BLBera: >33 thornton37814: >34 ronincats:

Welcome everyone. I hope you all had a great New Year!

>36 lauralkeet: I hope you enjoy Orbital. Reading it I was very surprised that people had described it as science-fiction, because to me it definitely isn't. But I had to rationalise why I thought that, as it was initially very much just a gut feeling.

38kidzdoc
Jan 2, 2025, 7:42 am

Nice review of Orbital, Rhian. I agree with you, I wouldn't ever have considered it as a work of science fiction, as compared to literary fiction. It was a very deserving winner of last year's Booker Prize.

39SandDune
Jan 2, 2025, 8:14 am

>38 kidzdoc: It is the first one of the 2024 Booker Prize shortlist that I have read so far. My RL book club is reading the shortlist for a meeting in April, so my aim is to read two a month until then. I'm debating whether I should read Huckleberry Finn before James as I've not read it previously.

40SandDune
Edited: Jan 2, 2025, 8:43 am

Well I've bought my first book of 2025! I have an excuse as I need it for my Welsh book club which starts again next week. It has the intriguing title of Y Trên Bwled Olaf o Ninefe (translated as The Last Bullet Train from Ninevah. A series of connected short stories.

41AnneDC
Jan 2, 2025, 9:17 am

Happy New Year Rhian! Starring your thread and pledging to myself that I'll be back. Nice review of Orbital--that's been on my radar to read.

42kidzdoc
Edited: Jan 2, 2025, 10:00 am

>39 SandDune: I would ideally recommend reading Huckleberry Finn first. I intend to revisit it, as I last read it in high school (I don't need to tell you how long ago that was), and then reread James.

43SandDune
Jan 2, 2025, 10:43 am

>42 kidzdoc: In that case I will read Huckleberry Finn first.

>41 AnneDC: Welcome Anne!

44AnneDC
Jan 2, 2025, 10:47 am

>39 SandDune: >42 kidzdoc: I agree that it is very helpful to have read Huckleberry Finn relatively recently before James. I think it helps to appreciate the cleverness of Percival's premise.

45lauralkeet
Jan 2, 2025, 11:46 am

>42 kidzdoc:, >44 AnneDC: I agree with Anne & Darryl. I suspect most American adults will have either read Huck Finn or be at least a bit familiar with what the story is about. And they should still read it before reading James! But I think that's even more the case for someone like you Rhian, who didn't grow up with Mark Twain's work as a sort of cultural undercurrent.

46SandDune
Jan 2, 2025, 12:10 pm

>44 AnneDC: >45 lauralkeet: I read Tom Sawyer when I was younger, and I think I have a vague idea of Huckleberry Finn , but only very vague. It's certainly never been a canonical text here in the same way. So looks like there is unanimous opinion that I need to read it!

47arubabookwoman
Jan 2, 2025, 4:44 pm

>35 SandDune: I've also been surprised to see Orbital characterized as Science Fiction. I found it very much in the realm of literary fiction.
I know many on LT loved it, and I'm a bit of an outlier. I recognized it was beautifully written, wonderfully descriptive prose. Maybe I even agree it is a worthy Booker winner (although I've not read many of the nominees). But as I was reading it, I came to the conclusion that I, as a reader of novels, need more of a plot or a storyline to make a book special to me, or a favorite. There really wasn't much of a plot in Orbital, and to a certain extent, in such a short, self-contained novel with no story, there really wasn't much character development either. Despite these things that led to my not enjoying it that much, I still rated it 3 1/2 stars, primarily for the beautiful writing.

48curioussquared
Jan 2, 2025, 7:32 pm

Happy new year, Rhian!

49bell7
Jan 2, 2025, 9:43 pm

Happy new year, Rhian! Nice to see your comments on Orbital. I've been thinking I'll try it, based on the generally positive comments I've been reading from LT friends.

I'll look forward to your thoughts on Huck Finn and James. The latter was a favorite of mine last year.

50quondame
Jan 3, 2025, 1:11 am

Happy new thread, and

Happy New Year, Rhian!

51vancouverdeb
Jan 3, 2025, 2:07 am

I couldn't get myself to read Orbital, Rhian, but I'm glad you enjoyed it. I did re - read Huckleberry Finn before I read James last year, so perhaps it is good to read Huckleberry Finn once prior to reading James.

52ctpress
Jan 3, 2025, 2:51 am

Happy new thread, Rhian. Hopefully I will get around to your thread and others more often this year. Interesting with a filmlist. Zone of Interest is on my watchlist.

53ursula
Jan 3, 2025, 5:21 am

>35 SandDune: Hello! Among many other things, I see that I entirely missed the Booker Prize. I swear, the last half of 2024 went down into a black hole entirely.

It'll also be interesting to see what movies you watch, even though I never watch any myself.

54SandDune
Jan 3, 2025, 12:55 pm

>47 arubabookwoman: >49 bell7: >51 vancouverdeb: I’m not sure I’m going to choose Orbital as my favourite on the Booker shortlist. I’m half way through Stone Yard Devotional at the moment which I am liking a lot, and of course there is James to come as well which everyone seems to have loved. But I did enjoy it. I can cope with books without plot as long as the writing is good and I felt that the writing for Orbital was very good.

>48 curioussquared: >50 quondame: Happy New Year!

55alcottacre
Jan 3, 2025, 1:22 pm

>35 SandDune: I did not care for that one as much as you did, Rhian, but I think part of that is that my expectation was that the book was science fiction when in reality, it was not. I am glad to see you enjoyed your first read of 2025 so much!

>40 SandDune: Yay! Here's to many more :)

>54 SandDune: I still need to get to Stone Yard Devotional. Looking forward to seeing what you think of it.

Have a fantastic Friday, Rhian!

56SandDune
Jan 3, 2025, 1:24 pm

After watching very few films in the course of 2024 we have watched 3 in the last week:

La Chimera **** A band of graverobbers led by an enigmatic Englishman target ancient Etruscan tombs in Italy (Italian).

The Zone of Interest ***** Rudolf Höss, commandant of Auschwitz, and his wife Hedwig build a seemingly idyllic life for themselves in the shadow of the camp (German).

All of Us Strangers **** A lonely and depressed screenwriter discovers his parents living in his childhood home, despite them having been killed in a car accident when he was twelve.

If anyone wants to watch The Zone of Interest I would strongly advise that you finds a version without closed captions. The soundtrack is very important to the experience and there is less dialogue than in most films and so the closed captions appear constantly on screen. Unfortunately, in the version that we originally started watching (Amazon Prime) they were far more noticeable than the actual subtitles and I found that they really distracted from the experience. After 10 minutes we looked to see if the film was available elsewhere as I just did not think I could watch it otherwise and we found a version to rent on Sky with subtitles only.

57SandDune
Jan 3, 2025, 1:30 pm

We are in London for a couple of days and had intended to visit the Wallace Collection this afternoon. Unfortunately, it was shut due to a ‘local water supply issue’ so we ended up going for a walk around Marylebone and Regent’s Park. And I might have just popped in very briefly to Daunt Books and I might just have come out with some books that I really didn’t need:

Life with A Star Jiří Weil
Things I Didn’t Throw Out Marcin Wicha

58BLBera
Jan 3, 2025, 1:54 pm

I loved Orbital, Rhian. I thought the writing was lovely, and the sense of place was amazing. I found it hard to believe that Harvey had never been to space! I found the same vivid sense of place in The Western Wind, which I also loved.

I don't mind a lack of plot, something I am trying to mention when I comment on books because many (or most?) people do like plot.

59Caroline_McElwee
Edited: Jan 4, 2025, 5:40 am

>35 SandDune: Glad it worked for you Rhian, I agree not a sci-fi novel. I have just started her The Western Wind. I liked Dear Thief too, and have another somewhere.

60SandDune
Jan 4, 2025, 7:42 am

>58 BLBera: >59 Caroline_McElwee: Coincidentally I also received The Western Wind for Christmas. Looking at the synopsis for this one it appeals a lot so think I will get around to it sooner rather than later.

61Sakerfalcon
Jan 4, 2025, 7:50 am

Happy New Year Rhian! I hope it is a good one for you and your family. Hope we might meet up again too!

62BLBera
Jan 4, 2025, 3:11 pm

>60 SandDune: I will watch for your comments. I really liked it.

63MickyFine
Jan 4, 2025, 5:54 pm

Glad to see your reading year is off to a solid start, Rhian.

>12 SandDune: Loved this story!

64Berly
Edited: Jan 5, 2025, 12:16 am



Hi Rhian! Love the wave topper and your soggy story, LOL. Wishing you happy reading in 2025!

65Whisper1
Jan 5, 2025, 12:59 am

>1 SandDune: Rhian, What a dramatic image of the huge waves crashing against a solid object! I may have mentioned before that my heritage is Welsh. Way back when, my ancestors hailed from Bangor, Wales. Moving to an area they called the "Slate Belt," the people from Bangor Wales became slate quarry miners. The local surrounding areas are Pen Argyl, PA, Bath, PA and Wind Gap, PA. Wind Gap is so named as a result of the geologic formation that occurred after years of winds pounding through the hard mountains creating a gap between them.

My grandmother lived in Pen Argyl most of her life until I moved her with me when she was old and needed assistance. She is buried in a beautiful plot of land that overlooks the gap. We are also surrounding by an area of mountains named The Poconos. Back in the 1950s-80's this was a very touristy place to visit, and also was known as a honey moon location.

I lived in that area until I went to college. Now, I live 30 minutes away and also sit outside with a cup of coffee in hand at a local coffee shop that has a beautiful view of stunning mountains.

I really didn't appreciate the beauty of where I grew up until I was older and traveled a bit. I look forward to hearing about your Welsh book club.

Happy New Year!

66AMQS
Jan 5, 2025, 2:07 am

Happy New Year, Rhian! That is a stunning picture up top, and I'm sure I've seen a few of that pier.

My husband was gifted Orbital for Christmas (which kind of means that I was also) and I also received James. The talk on your thread is encouraging me to reread Huck Finn - I had seen Big River fairly recently - the outstanding musical adaptation of Huck Finn, but your thread visitors are convincing me that's not enough:)

67SandDune
Jan 5, 2025, 12:06 pm

>61 Sakerfalcon: >63 MickyFine: >64 Berly: Happy New Year!

>62 BLBera: I'm putting it on the TBR (soon) list.

>65 Whisper1: I've visited a couple of the slate quarries in North Wales that have been reopened as tourist attractions and they are very interesting. I'd always assumed previously that it was just quarried above ground, and some of it was, but much of it was mined underground. None of my ancestors worked in slate: they are all from the South Wales as far as I have been able to find out and there's no slate there. So I have a lot of coal miners in my family tree (lots of stone masons also), but no slate miners. Some of my family did emigrate to Pennsylvania, but as shopkeepers, rather than coal miners.

>66 AMQS: Pictures of the waves over Porthcawl Pier are very common in the British media when they want to illustrate stormy weather for two reasons. Firstly, the slope of the pier wall and the fact that it sticks out at right angles into the oncoming waves means that there are always large waves in a storm if the tide is high. And secondly, there is a nice convenient little headland on which the photographers can stand with their telephoto lenses to take their photos without any danger of getting washed away!

68Whisper1
Jan 5, 2025, 12:15 pm

>67 SandDune: Thanks for the information regarding slate quarries in North Wales. I was ignorant regarding this because I assumed only coal mining occurred in Wales. How interesting that some of your family did emigrate to Pennsylvania! I was taught that Welsh people were very good singers. Sadly, my voice is compromised as a result of many spine surgeries wherein they entered from the front of my neck. This grieves me as I liked to sing in church choirs, did some solo work, and also sang for people in nursing homes, and invited them to sing along with hymns.

I'm not bragging as I never considered myself as stellar, rather, I enjoyed making others happy.

69SandDune
Jan 5, 2025, 12:52 pm

Back home after our weekend in London. We did manage to get into the Wallace Collection on Saturday morning; surprisingly, I had never been there before. Lots of Gainsborough's, Reynolds's and Canaletto. My favourite was probably this one:

'Nelly O'Brien' by Sir Joshua Reynolds



And also this:

'Miss Jane Bowles' also by Sir Joshua Reynolds. (Sentimental I know, but it was beautifully done).



On Saturday evening we went to the Young Vic. We had dinner in the restaurant there (The Cut) and then went to see The Little Foxes. I was a bit disappointed in the play to be honest. Apparently, it was written in 1939 and set at the turn of the twentieth century but the dating of the costume and set design was ambiguous, to say the least, and rather detracted from the play. And the staging seemed very traditional and a bit flat, unusual for the Young Vic. But a good performance from Anne-Marie Duff in the lead role.

He we all are in the restaurant - (left to right, Caroline, Jacob, me and Mr SandDune).



This morning we went to the British Library to see their exhibition 'Medieval Women: in their Own Words'. Very interesting, with some beautifully illustrated early books and manuscripts. Also fifteenth century erotic poetry in Welsh (in strict meter, of course) by Gwerful Mechain ...

https://medievalwomen.seetickets.com/timeslots/filter/medieval-women-in-their-ow...

70SandDune
Jan 5, 2025, 12:59 pm

>68 Whisper1: Lots of slate mining in North Wales. The two biggest slate mines in the world were the Penrhyn and Dinorwig quarries there.

Sorry that you are not able to sing now. I hadn't appreciated that your operations had affected you in that way.

71m.belljackson
Jan 5, 2025, 1:02 pm

>65 Whisper1: >1 SandDune:

Takeaway from Sixpence House:

The Welsh word "tymp" means "mound" -
Can't wait until he moves from buying Greenland and Panama to buying Wales!

Imagination rules on deciding what kind of mound.

72Caroline_McElwee
Jan 5, 2025, 6:41 pm

>69 SandDune: Sounds like a lovely weekend, I love the Wallace Collection. The Medieval Women is on my list to see too. Shame about the play.

73Berly
Jan 5, 2025, 11:13 pm

>69 SandDune: What a great trip and thanks for sharing the photos!

74AMQS
Edited: Jan 5, 2025, 11:41 pm

Great photos! Thank you for sharing.

>68 Whisper1: Linda, I had always heard that the Welsh were excellent singers, too. I don't sing all that often anymore but choirs were a huge part of my life since the age of 9 or so and I would grieve losing the ability. I'm so sorry. I am hoping to sing again - perhaps in retirement. The girls both sang in choirs - a professional children's performing organization where I worked (and sang as a youngster) and in high school. As soon as Marina started working at DU she found a choir conducted by a friend of ours and joined. She is so happy to be singing again.

75SandDune
Jan 6, 2025, 8:11 am

>71 m.belljackson: I don't think the Welsh would want him!

>72 Caroline_McElwee: >73 Berly: >74 AMQS: I hadn't visited the Wallace collection before surprisingly, but it was well worth a visit, and we didn't get to see everything. And it was free!

>74 AMQS: I'm afraid I haven't inherited any particularly good singing genes. My father sang in a choir, as did my grandfather.

76karenmarie
Jan 6, 2025, 8:43 am

Hi Rhian. Happy New Year and happy first thread of 2025.

>1 SandDune: Nice summary, and I love the photo from your home town.

>12 SandDune: I can see a 5-year old’s upset coming from his perception that people thinking it’s amusing. You were keeping him safe, he trusted you, and you got him home safely, too.

>27 SandDune: My sister has two dogs that are very senior and now deaf. But when they were young, they either had to be wrapped in what are now called dog anxiety relief coats, drugged, or both. We usually hear M-80-type firecrackers out here in the country, along with shotgun, rifle, and pistol shots. None close to the house, however. I actually was asleep at midnight, woke up at 12:06 and realized I’d missed it. M80s would have woken me up, though, so I think it was rather quiet here. *shrug*

>46 SandDune: I read Huckleberry Finn for October’s real life book club discussion in anticipation of our reading James for this month’s discussion. I had abandoned it in high school and am so glad I read it in October. It’s making James so much more meaningful. My vote is that you read HF too.

>56 SandDune: I was interested in All of Us Strangers and wanted to see if it was based on a novel. Of course it was, and it’s a ricochet BB, due Thursday from Amazon.

>69 SandDune: Thanks for sharing the Reynolds’. And, thanks for the photo of the four of you.

77SandDune
Jan 6, 2025, 9:37 am

>76 karenmarie: Well we've discovered Daisy isn't completely deaf. Mr SandDune took her out for a walk in the evening on New Year's Day, as it had been raining all day before that. And some fireworks went off relatively nearby and she bolted. (Well, she bolted quite slowly as she's not very fast these days so he was able to catch her quite easily). We weren't expecting any fireworks at that time, but it was very wet on New Year's Eve so they probably postponed them.

>77 SandDune: I hadn't realised that All of Us Strangers was a novel - it makes sense that it is Japanese. I will put it in the WL as well. Apparently The Zone of Interest is also (very loosely) based on a novel by Martin Amis, but that one doesn't appeal.

78richardderus
Jan 6, 2025, 9:52 am

>77 SandDune: I'm always mildly amazed when I like an adaptation better than the adapted source...The Zone of Interest was such a case. The novel's a dingy, grubby affair that's almost tedious to read...the film's visuals are finely balanced, and the commentary is evident without being unpleasantly preachy.

In case that makes a difference.

Monday orisons.

79lauralkeet
Jan 6, 2025, 11:11 am

>77 SandDune: we were watching a YouTube video last night that opened with some fireworks, in a valley as seen from a mountain. They were really mild yet both of our dogs showed their displeasure. Although Ellie responds to wildlife on TV, I was surprised they'd both react to TV fireworks.

80SandDune
Jan 6, 2025, 2:29 pm

>78 richardderus: I don't really like Martin Amis's book so I don't think there's any chance of me reading the book of The Zone of Interest.

>79 lauralkeet: Daisy virtually never shows any interest at all in what is on the TV. In fact the only time I can remember her reacting at all was when we were watching the film of I am Legend. There is a German Shepherd that appears in the film and she took great exception to it, growling and with her hackles up. Most unlike her!

81SandDune
Edited: Jan 7, 2025, 8:11 am

I am reading The Great Fortune by Olivia Manning (along with several others) and am getting very curious about the finances of the Pringles. Unless I misheard, Guy's salary seems extremely low at £250 a year (I looked it up and secondary teachers usually earned about £450). Most of the male members of my family were coal miners at that time and I looked up their wages for comparison and they would have earned about £150 a year, so not a huge amount less. I can only assume that Romania was extremely cheap at the time, or else how on Earth can they afford to be eating out all the time and going to all these parties?

Looking up these things I have also come to the conclusion that the A.I. answers now provided by Google are completely meaningless drivel.

82lauralkeet
Edited: Jan 6, 2025, 9:01 pm

>80 SandDune: I was surprised Alys reacted to the TV fireworks because she usually ignores the TV. Ellie is the first dog we've had (out of 4) that has paid any attention to it. I have to say it's pretty cute when she reacts to something non-threatening, like birds.

>81 SandDune: I wondered the same thing when I read the Manning trilogies last year. I didn't research it like you did, but I absolutely couldn't understand how they managed to have the lifestyle they did.

83SandDune
Edited: Jan 7, 2025, 10:45 am

2.Stone Yard Devotional Charlotte Wood ****1/2



A middle-aged woman leaves her life's work as an environmentalist to live in a religious community in the small rural Australian town in which she was brought up. A shock to all who know her, as she has no religious faith, despite being raised a Catholic.

'You do not announce on Facebook that you, an atheist, are leaving your job and your home and your husband to join a cloistered religious community. I mean you could, and it might be a better way than I chose, which was not to announce anything to anyone. People were wounded. Very wounded. They told me so in the letters that came for a time in a steady river, to let me know of the hurt and damage I had caused by my disappearance, how much it was still rippling. Alex's letters were not so full of fury, though injury still lay between the lines of his unbearably formal notes about legal things to be resolved. And he would drop in details of his projects – the Guinea mangroves, biodiversity funding, the rest; 'actually making a difference' – to underline his faith, his commitment, my abdication.'


But the peace of the community is disturbed when the bones of a previous community member are discovered, and brought back for burial. And accompanying the bones comes Helen Parry, with whom the narrator shares an uncomfortable history from their schooldays in the same town. And as the bones sit awaiting burial the mice around the convent multiply until it seems that a plague is on its way...

This is a thoughtful book dealing with fundamental questions of grief and forgiveness and friendship amongst the minutiae of the convent's daily life. Highly recommended.

84richardderus
Jan 7, 2025, 11:39 am

>83 SandDune: I confess the subject matter...religion...hits my "NOT EVER" button, and hard, though your review makes a good case for pushing the boundary.

Not *quite* hard enough, but close.

85SandDune
Jan 7, 2025, 1:13 pm

>84 richardderus: Well - the main characters is not religious but pretty much all the other characters are nuns ...

86cbl_tn
Jan 7, 2025, 7:04 pm

>58 BLBera: >59 Caroline_McElwee: >60 SandDune: Chiming in on The Western Wind, which I read and loved a few years ago. It made quite an impression on me.

87Sakerfalcon
Jan 8, 2025, 7:48 am

Glad you had a great time in London. I work near the Wallace Collection and don't go there nearly as often as I should. It's a lovely place.

>83 SandDune: I really enjoyed Stone Yard devotional too.

88SandDune
Jan 8, 2025, 12:05 pm

>86 cbl_tn: The Western Wind is definitely sitting on the TBR (soon) shelf now!

>87 Sakerfalcon: It's always the same when things are nearby isn't it. There just never seems that same urgency to visit.

89msf59
Jan 9, 2025, 8:53 am

Sweet Thursday, Rhian. I am so glad to see that Orbital worked for you. It is not a novel for everyone. I would also like to explore more of her work. I caught a BB with Stone Yard Devotional. Sounds really interesting.

90johnsimpson
Jan 9, 2025, 4:17 pm

Hi Rhian my dear, i have starred you again dear friend.

91Familyhistorian
Jan 9, 2025, 11:44 pm

Sorry it has taken me so long to get to your thread, Rhian. I'm another one that would recommend reading Adventures of Huckleberry Finn before James. I found it hard to get through the older book until my hold on James came through and I had to finish everything in a hurry because so many readers wanted to get their hands on Everett's book.

92sirfurboy
Jan 10, 2025, 6:54 am

>83 SandDune: That is a an interesting premise for a book. Interesting review too, thanks.

93BLBera
Jan 10, 2025, 9:40 am

Great comments on Stone Yard Devotional; it's on my list to read this year.

94SandDune
Edited: Jan 10, 2025, 2:45 pm

3. English Pastoral: an Inheritance James Rebanks *****



English Pastoral by James Rebanks looks at the evolution of the farming life in England:

'Nostalgia' considers the traditional farming methods of his grandfather, a traditional upland farmer keeping relatively small numbers of varied farm animals while also growing the arable crops and hay needed for their feed. A farmer such as his grandfather was hugely knowledgeable but traditional methods of farming needed much more manpower than modern profit margins will support.

'Progress' covers the ever-increasing trend towards bigger farms, more specialised farms, more efficient farms, a trend which the young James Rebanks eagerly embraced, only to become disillusioned with the unsustainability of this approach and its detrimental effect on the loves of farm animals.

'Utopia' outlines some of his ideas about what he would like to do instead: more mixed farms, more room for nature, more focus on the health of the soil and sustainability.

England has a population density of over 1,100 people per square mile, and 56 million people to feed three times a day. Most of England is farmed, and realistically will continue to be, our biggest and most vital ecological challenge is how to make productive farms much better places for nature. We can't wipe the slate clean, but every farmer can work up from where we are and make it much better. Some of the answers lie in the past – in how we farmed before we could cheat with new technologies. Other solutions require new ways of doing things, based on science (for example by analysing soil health, studying grazing practices to see what works best, or learning from ecologists about the habitats and natural processes we need to recreate). We can't wipe the work the land and still have healthy soil, rivers, wetlands, woodland and scrub. We can have fields full of wild flowers and grasses, swarming with insects, butterflies and birds. We just have to want this enough to legislate for it and pay for it.

Despite always living within walking distance of farmland (largely pastoral when I was growing up, pretty much all arable here) I know very little of farming and it's at least 175 years since any of my ancestors worked on the land. (One of the themes of the book, incidentally, is how divorced British people are from farming). So this was a fascinating look at what farmers, and by extrapolation, consumers, should be doing to protect the environment while continuing to ensure a stable food supply.

Highly recommended.

95AMQS
Jan 10, 2025, 1:29 pm

Hi Rhian, you got me with Stone Yard Devotional - that is an interesting premise. Thanks! Happy weekend to you.

96SandDune
Jan 10, 2025, 1:50 pm

>89 msf59: Well Happy Friday (now) to you Mark!

>90 johnsimpson: Welcome John!

>91 Familyhistorian: Well definitely better later than never.

>92 sirfurboy: >93 BLBera: >95 AMQS: Well Stone Yard Devotional is going to be one that I'm strongly recommending to people. Unless that is they have a phobia about mice, you do need to be able to cope with mice!

97alcottacre
Jan 10, 2025, 3:50 pm

>94 SandDune: I read that one just last month, Rhian, and also highly recommend it. I am glad to see that you enjoyed it too.

Have a wonderful weekend!

98m.belljackson
Jan 10, 2025, 8:18 pm

>94 SandDune: THE LAND REMEMBERS by Ben Logan might be a welcome followup to your intriguing English Pastoral.

99atozgrl
Jan 10, 2025, 11:10 pm

I have *finally* made it over to your thread. A belated Happy New Year, Rhian! I've been struggling to get to all the new threads, since they are all so busy, and since I got a late start because we were out of town over the holidays.

You've already finished three books this year. Good for you!

>1 SandDune: What a dramatic and striking picture to open your thread! I love it! It's fun to watch what nature can do. I used to love to watch the lightning storms in the midwest US when I was young.

100vancouverdeb
Jan 10, 2025, 11:14 pm

I got Orbital out of the library, but I just didn't want to read it, so I didn't. I have a hold on Stone Yard Devotional at the library, but they won't get it in until the release date in Canada, which I think is some time this spring. I'll look forward to reading it , based on your review, Rhian.

101SandDune
Jan 11, 2025, 12:37 pm

>97 alcottacre: I've also read James Rebanks's The Shepherd's Life going back a few years and enjoyed that too.

>98 m.belljackson: I haven't come across that one – I'll keep an eye out.

>99 atozgrl: Happy New Year to you too! My normal activities had taken a break for the Christmas holidays so I had a bit more reading time than normal.

>100 vancouverdeb: No need to read things you don't want to.

102SandDune
Jan 11, 2025, 1:29 pm

I'm feeling slightly exhausted today as I've been doing a Welsh revision course all day and it does take it out of you. I could quite happily go to sleep.

As part of our work we read a recent article in Welsh which considered whether fantasy writers were guilty of cultural appropriation with regard to their borrowing of the languages and mythology of Welsh and other Celtic nations. I never get too borrowed by cultural appropriation as really I've always thought that culture has got to be appropriated in order for cultures to progress, but I have to admit to finding it a bit irritating at times that, for instance, so much of what is tagged Wales in LT is fantasy, hardly anything is modern day Wales. The article that we were reading was much more detailed but the gist of some of what we were reading is summed up in this (tongue-in-cheek) article in The Guardian - that there's "a particular perception of Wales developing within fantasy, which is that it’s this magical, rural, romantic place" and that that's pretty patronising.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/jan/06/fairy-porn-is-this-booming-erotica...

Anyway, Mr SandDune has gone to Oxford, for a university reunion thing which goes by the somewhat esoteric name of 'Needle & Thread Gaudy', but he'll be back tomorrow.

Yesterday morning, we pottered around town picking up some bits and pieces and stopped for coffee in my favourite cafe. This particular place is well-known for cakes, and I had a raspberry and rose cake, which has got to be one of the nicest things I have ever tasted. I've been searching for recipes, but I can only find cakes with rose flavour icing, whereas in this cake the rose (and raspberry) flavour was in the cake itself ...

103Whisper1
Jan 11, 2025, 1:45 pm

Rhian, raspberry and rose cake sounds yummy!

104figsfromthistle
Jan 11, 2025, 8:16 pm

>94 SandDune: this sounds like one that I would enjoy. I will check my local library.

Happy weekend

105BLBera
Jan 12, 2025, 10:13 am

>102 SandDune: The cake sounds delicious. English Pastoral sounds fascinating. We in the US have the same problem with pressures to make farms bigger and bigger and less environmentally sustainable.

106Caroline_McElwee
Edited: Jan 12, 2025, 5:33 pm

>102 SandDune: Cultural appropriation is something I want to explore more. It didn't seem to be such a thing when I was young, people seemed to be flattered if you took an interest, owned something from their culture etc, but of course now I know it is more complicated than that. It depends in what way the appropriation occurs.

The cake sounds delicious. I had something similar when I was in Wales a few years back, one of the best cakes I'd ever had.

107SandDune
Edited: Jan 13, 2025, 2:04 pm

>103 Whisper1: >105 BLBera: >106 Caroline_McElwee: The cake was very delicious!

>104 figsfromthistle: I hope you manage to find it!

>105 BLBera: I'm afraid the U.S. comes out worse in the book than does the U.K., in particular Iowa. James Rebanks had serious problems with farming in Iowa.

>106 Caroline_McElwee: I don't have any problem with fantasy books giving people Welsh sounding names. I've really enjoyed several books that have done this. And I don't mind modern retellings of Welsh legends either. What I do mind is a preponderance of books that depict Wales to the outside world only as the 'magical, rural, romantic place' mentioned in the article, without a counterbalance of books depicting Wales as a real place.

And I suppose I see it against a backdrop of hostility to the Welsh language in general on social media. Any social media posts about using the traditional Welsh name for pretty much anything will be met by a barrage of complaints about 'wokeism'. So Welsh is wonderful in fantasy but not in real life?

One point that was made in the fuller Welsh article was that how frequently fantasy used a mishmash of Celtic language tropes, not realising that the different branches of the Celtic languages (Welsh, Cornish, & Breton in one group, Irish, Scottish Gaelic & Manx in the other) split apart from each other a very long time ago, (much longer ago than Latin split into Italian and Spanish and French for example). If I didn't know that Irish was a Celtic language and so related to Welsh, it wouldn't have occurred to me just by looking at the two languages, whereas it's easy to see that with say Italian and Spanish. That in particular irritated the authors of the article, and I can see why.

108norabelle414
Jan 13, 2025, 11:12 am

Happy New Year, Rhian!
>102 SandDune: Fascinating article, thank you!

109SandDune
Jan 13, 2025, 2:04 pm

>108 norabelle414: It's a pity I couldn't share the article that we were reading in Welsh, as that was much more thoughtful.

110SandDune
Edited: Jan 14, 2025, 1:59 pm

4. The Great Fortune Olivia Manning ***1/2



It's 1939 and newly-married Guy and Harriet Pringle are travelling across a war torn Europe to Bucharest, where Guy is returning to his teaching job at the University. Arriving penniless on the same train is Prince Yakimov, carrying the sable-lined great coat that the Tsar had given his father, ever optimistic that his luck might improve and someone would lend him some money.

'Immediately outside the window there was a platform lit by three weak, yellow bulbs strung on a wire. Beneath the furthest of these was a group of people – a tall man, unusually thin, with a long coat trailing from one shoulder as from a door-knob, surrounded by five small men in uniform. They were persuading him along. He seemed, in their midst, bewildered like some long, timid animal harried by terriers. Every few yards he paused to remonstrate with them and they, circling about him and gesticulating, edged him on until he reached the carriage from which Harriet was watching. He was carrying in one hand a crocodile dressing-case, in the other a British passport. One of the five men was a porter who carried two large suitcases.

“Yakimov,” the tall man kept repeating, “Prince Yakimov. Gospodin,” he suddenly wailed, “gospodin.”


As the months pass Harriet begins to realise that Guy is perhaps not the man she had hoped for when she married, and the news of the war continues to worsen. Will Romania be able to hold out as a neutral country as its politicians insist? And will it be safe for the Pringles to remain?

I should say that I pretty much didn't like anyone in this book. I certainly couldn't imagine living with Guy for more than 24 hours without throwing things at his head. In my opinion Yakimov (or poor Yaki as he likes to refer to himself) should stop sponging off everyone in sight and get a proper job. (Faced with aristocrats like Yaki I'm surprised that the Russians lasted as long as they did before having a revolution). Even Harriet, probably the most likeable character, can be incredibly callous at times. All the characters bring out a puritanical streak in me and I can’t help feeling that they all should stop wining and dining and putting on plays in Bucharest and go back home and do something useful for the war effort!

I should also say that the fact that the book elicits such a strong reaction from me is because it is very well written and the characters come across as completely real people. So despite being incredibly annoyed with the lot of them, I will continue onto the next book in the series.

111Caroline_McElwee
Jan 15, 2025, 4:53 am

>110 SandDune: Despite that I'm reading this trilogy for the fourth time I do agree with what you say Rhian. It is how well drawn the characters are, the writing and the tone that have drawn me back. They are all believably annoying ha. It is semi-autobiographical.

112msf59
Jan 15, 2025, 7:44 am

Happy Wednesday, Rhian. I also loved English Pastoral. What a treat that book was. Good review of The Great Fortune. It looks like most of us share the same feelings but will carry on to Book 2.

113lauralkeet
Jan 15, 2025, 9:25 am

>110 SandDune: I loved this review, Rhian. Regarding proper jobs or lack thereof, Guy et al were in jobs sanctioned by the British government (not sure I'm saying that correctly); this was seen as part of the war effort and excused them from active duty. But there was a ridiculous amount of bureaucracy and "make work."

114SandDune
Edited: Jan 15, 2025, 11:28 am

5. Bookshops & Bonedust Travis Baldree **



A prequel to the popular Legends and Lattes.

Viv, a young orc newly enrolled in the mercenary troop of Rackam's Ravens, is injured while fighting wights controlled by the necromancer Varine. Left behind in the quiet town of Murk to recuperate, Viv finds a nearby bookshop in which to while away her time. But perhaps the threat posed by Varine isn't as far away as she thought ...

Firstly, I should say that I enjoyed Legends & Lattes (in which a much older Viv is recently retired from her life as a mercenary). But I did not enjoy this, perhaps because it seems to go over much of the same ground as the earlier book, and takes longer to do so. In Legends & Lattes we had a coffee shop where Viv can develop true friendships; here we have a bookshop. And because I liked the book less (it takes a long time for very much to happen) things that only niggled at me a little from the previous book irritated me a lot more.

An example: the world created by Travis Baldree has all sorts of different species in it (elves, dwarves, orcs, gnomes, rattkins (they have claws and I assume are a bit like rats) and tapentis (no idea what these are like) to name but a few) but they all seem remarkably similar. No different languages, no different cultures, not even very different habits, just very different sized and shaped... people, all living in the same town, which is a little boring and makes absolutely no sense. I suppose I can see where Baldree is coming from, it's a 'cozy' fantasy, so the cozy thing to do is show all these different species getting on - no racism here, thank you very much - but it doesn't work for me.

And what makes sense for Vic as an older battle-weary character doesn't quite ring true here. I don't quite understand why a prequel was necessary at this stage in the development of the series. It does rather remove a lot of the uncertainty about the (fairly weak) plot, as the reader knows what is going to happen to the main character in the long run.

This has had lots of good reviews, but it definitely wasn't for me. To be fair, I don't really think I'm the target market for 'cozy fantasy', cozy anything isn't usually quite my thing. So not recommended.

115Crazymamie
Jan 15, 2025, 11:51 am

>110 SandDune: Great review, Rhian! I thought Harriet was by far the most likable character. I loved how Manning established a sense of place and her descriptions of everything.

116SandDune
Jan 15, 2025, 12:42 pm

>111 Caroline_McElwee: >112 msf59: >113 lauralkeet: >114 SandDune: I suppose Guy's job was sanctioned, although I don't quite see why. But Harriet certainly could have done something useful instead of swanning around filching underpants meant for refugees! Someone who can afford to eat out such a lot can afford to buy their own underwear, in my view!

The sense of place was wonderful though!

117alcottacre
Jan 15, 2025, 7:48 pm

>101 SandDune: I need to find a copy of The Shepherd's Life, Rhian. Thanks for the reminder.

>110 SandDune: So despite being incredibly annoyed with the lot of them, I will continue onto the next book in the series. I had to laugh at that! Manning writes the characters so well that they truly come to life, do they not?

>114 SandDune: I am sorry to hear that you did not enjoy that one more and hope your next read is more to your taste, Rhian!

118BLBera
Jan 15, 2025, 10:46 pm

>110 SandDune: Great comments, Rhian. I do want to read this soon.

119SandDune
Edited: Jan 17, 2025, 9:38 am

<117 I think that's why I enjoyed it - the characters may be infuriating but they are real people.

120SandDune
Jan 17, 2025, 9:39 am

>118 BLBera: I keep trying to reply to you in the message above - but my comments keep disappearing. Weird!

121richardderus
Jan 17, 2025, 10:07 am

>114 SandDune: This is exactly why I didn't like the first book and won't read this one: How hard is it to get along with your own kind? How is this in ant way indicative of Viv, or anyone else, having to make any effort to reach out to, or try to understand, or get along with these folk who are just alike?

No from me, so I let sleeping lovers lie and said nothing. Thanks for saying what I was too lazy to.

122SandDune
Jan 17, 2025, 12:46 pm

>121 richardderus: Unfortunately I didn't write a review of Legends & Lattes at the time so I can't really remember why I liked it. But I rated it as 3 1/2 stars so I must have liked it, although in retrospect I think that was a bit generous. I think it bowled along a bit quicker than Bookshops & Bonedust, so I didn't have so much time to focus on its flaws, and of course, being the first one in the series, it didn't come over as repetitive. Maybe I was just in the right frame of mind? But I won't be reading any more in the series.

123BLBera
Jan 18, 2025, 9:26 am

>120 SandDune: That is weird. I see them now.

124PaulCranswick
Jan 18, 2025, 10:58 am

>110 SandDune: So despite being incredibly annoyed with the lot of them, I will continue onto the next book in the series.

I wasn't quite as annoyed with them all as you but I will follow the team and carry on with book 2 as well.

125Deern
Jan 19, 2025, 1:49 am

Checking and and wishing you a Happy New Year!

126SandDune
Edited: Jan 20, 2025, 3:39 pm

6. Vengeance in Venice Philip Gwynne Jones ***1/2



This is the second in Philip Gwynne Jones's Venice series. I read the first one, The Venetian Game, just before Christmas and this is an equally enjoyable read. As I said in my review of the first book, this is basically a love letter to Venice with a mystery thrown in, but it's a well written book (written by someone who clearly knows Venice like the back of his hand) that keeps you reading. This isn't cozy crime exactly, but our detective, honorary British Consol Nathan Sutherland, is a basically decent man who wants to do the right thing.

A perk of Nathan's 'job' (if you can call it that, as it is an unpaid position) is that he receives an invite to the opening of several exhibitions at the famous Venice Biennale. As well as being able to view the art, the drinks usually flow profusely at these occasions, always popular with Nathan. The opening of the British pavilion, featuring a glass installation by the artist Paul Considine, is the first exhibition that Nathan attends as the Biennale opens:

I made my way upstairs, a little unwillingly. I've never been good with heights, but that wasn't the problem. It was the effect of feeling oneself suspended in the air above a valley of jagged, broken glass. The safety barriers – glass themselves, and a little lower than I'd have liked – provided no real feeling of security. One wall was lined with seven glass scythes. Another with seven swords. Another with seven daggers. It was simultaneously one of the most beautiful and terrifying things I'd ever seen.

But a horrific accident leads to the decapitation of a famous art critic. But was it an accident, and is Paul Considine really the quiet inoffensive man that he appears?

After reading this book all I want to do is go to Venice and drink a marrochino. (I had to look it up, but now that I know what it it, I definitely want one. And I've never seen one in Starbucks or Costa so I suppose I'll have to go to Italy.)

These books don't seem particularly well known on LT, but I think a lot of people would enjoy the series, particularly anyone interested in art or lovers of Italy. I'll be reading book three in due course.

127SandDune
Jan 20, 2025, 4:06 pm

>123 BLBera: It still looks weird - so strange.

>124 PaulCranswick: Although I was so annoyed with the characters I did enjoy the book. That's the only thing I remember from the T.V. series - how annoying Guy was!

>125 Deern: Happy New Year to you too Nathalie!

128CDVicarage
Jan 20, 2025, 4:50 pm

>126 SandDune: You've tempted me, Rhian, and the first in the series is currently 99p as an ebook!

129Crazymamie
Jan 22, 2025, 8:42 am

>126 SandDune: You got me with this series, too, Rhian. Great review!

130SandDune
Edited: Jan 22, 2025, 2:49 pm

7. The Act of Oblivion Robert Harris ****



It's 1660 and Charles II has returned to England after the collapse of the Republic. An amnesty is announced for those that took up arms against Charles I in the civil war, with one exception: there is to be no forgiveness for anyone directly involved in the killing of the king. And so two so-called regicides – Colonel Edward Whalley, cousin to Oliver Cromwell, and Colonel Williams Goffe his son-in-law – both signatories of the death warrant of Charles I, flee England to escape the fate of being hanged, drawn and quartered. They arrive in Cambridge, Massachusetts as guests of the puritan Daniel Gookin, but to the consternation of his wife:

'And why was it so urgent for them to leave?'
'To put the matter briefly, the King's son is returning to the throne by invitation of Parliament, the army has agreed – or most of it – and England is to be a republic no more.'
The information came in such a rush, was so overwhelming and unexpected, she had to sit on the bed beside him to absorb it. After a few moments she said, 'Why did the army agree to such a thing?'
'A new law, what they call an Act of Oblivion, has been laid before Parliament. The past is to be forgotten. There's to be an amnesty for all who took up arms against the late King – with one exception. All those regicides, as they call them, who had direct involvement in the trial and execution of Charles Stuart are required to surrender themselves for judgement.' He took her hand. There you have it, as plain as I can tell it. This was ten weeks ago. Ours is the first ship to reach Boston with the news.'


But Massachusetts does not prove the safe haven that the colonels had been hoping for. And in London, Richard Naylor, most zealous member of the committee charged with finding the regicides, has his own personal reasons for wanting them dead.

This is a historical novel that follows as far as possible the known facts about Edward Whalley and William Goffe. A pet hate of mine in historical novels is to find characters with all the attitudes and beliefs of the twenty-first century dropped into a quasi historical setting. There is none of that here. Whalley and Goffe are completely believable as men of the seventeenth century, religious fanatics by today's standards. And the New England in which they find themselves is so believable as well: I found the descriptions of the early colonies was one of the most interesting parts of the book.

I've enjoyed quite a few of Robert Harris's books over the years, and this one is no exception. Recommended.

131SandDune
Jan 22, 2025, 3:00 pm

>128 CDVicarage: >129 Crazymamie: Well I hope you both enjoy it!

132atozgrl
Jan 22, 2025, 5:53 pm

>130 SandDune: That sounds very interesting. Looks like I'll have to add it to Mt. TBR. Thanks for the excellent review!

133magicians_nephew
Jan 23, 2025, 9:40 am

>130 SandDune: Big Robert Harris fan here. He does his research and he tells great stories.

134SandDune
Jan 23, 2025, 9:45 am

Going back to what I mentioned a couple of weeks ago about romantasy authors picking bits of Welsh culture, I’ve found a whole video on it:

https://youtu.be/58-1EOObzso

135SandDune
Jan 23, 2025, 11:15 am

>132 atozgrl: >133 magicians_nephew: It does seem so well researched. And Mr SandDune, who can usually spot a historical mistake a mile off, really rates Robert Harris’s accuracy.

Although I do have a bone to pick with Mr SandDune as he disclosed part of the ending when I was only half way through the book, and then excused himself by saying that ‘he thought I would have known what happened to Whalley and Goffe - it’s a really famous case.’ I, of course, had never heard of Whalley and Goffe at all before.

136SandDune
Jan 23, 2025, 2:22 pm

A stressful day today. My mother suddenly became ill this morning and I received a call from the care home at about 11.30. When I got there the paramedic was already there. They would normally have taken her to A&E with her symptoms but we had previously agreed that we need to keep her out of hospital at all costs - she became so distressed last time she was there. So they enrolled her in something called 'Hospital at Home' and the person came out from there in the afternoon. We have agreed that she is to be kept comfortable but there is no much else there can do as she becomes so distressed when anything is attempted.

I have come home now but will go back tomorrow morning.

Unfortunately at this moment my sister is somewhere in the Bay of Biscay having left on a three week cruise, so I haven't been able to get hold of her at all. I did manage to speak to my nephew, who is a consultant, and he agreed that the approach was sensible.

137richardderus
Jan 23, 2025, 3:24 pm

>136 SandDune: A very nasty state of affairs, Rhian, and so very stressful to deal with. I'm aware of how isolating the issues of parental healthcare are. Hoping all goes well in the current crisis.

138kidzdoc
Jan 23, 2025, 3:33 pm

>136 SandDune: I'm sorry that your mother suddenly took a turn for the worse this morning, Rhian. The Hospital at Home seems like a very reasonable option; is this similar to our hospice care?

139SandDune
Jan 23, 2025, 5:10 pm

>137 richardderus: Thank you

>138 kidzdoc: Apparently it can include hospice care but can include other things as well. I had not heard of it before so I looked it up. This is what it says:

https://www.enherts-tr.nhs.uk/services/hospital-at-home/

140BLBera
Jan 23, 2025, 5:24 pm

I am so sorry to hear about your mother Rhian. I hope she bounces back.

The Venice series does sound like one I would like. I will look for it.

141quondame
Jan 23, 2025, 6:24 pm

>136 SandDune: How upsetting about your mother. I'm glad that there is a hospital alternative for her.

142kidzdoc
Jan 23, 2025, 7:31 pm

>139 SandDune: Thanks for that information, Rhian. That is a fantastic idea, and I could think of many many patients I cared for when I was a hospitalist who would have been appropriate candidates for this service, which would have allowed a child to stay at home while their parents cared for their other children. Hopefully the US can adopt this model at some point.

143figsfromthistle
Jan 23, 2025, 8:15 pm

>136 SandDune: I am sorry to hear about your mom. I am glad that there is a service available for her. I have not heard of hospital at home' but I hope that it works/is a good fit for her and your family.

144katiekrug
Jan 23, 2025, 10:08 pm

Very sorry to hear about your mom, Rhian. I'm glad there is an option other than taking her in to the hospital which would be so distressing for her.

145Caroline_McElwee
Edited: Jan 24, 2025, 3:58 am

>136 SandDune: Sorry to hear about your mum Rhian, keeping fingers crossed she is more comfortable today. Agreeing the option agreed is far preferable for someone as vulnerable. Stay well yourself.

146lauralkeet
Jan 24, 2025, 6:27 am

I'm sorry to hear about your mum, Rhian. I hope she continues to get the care she needs.

147msf59
Jan 24, 2025, 7:32 am

Happy Friday, Rhian. Sorry to hear about your Mom. Keep us updated. I read and enjoyed Conclave not long ago and it reminded me to read more Harris. I will add The Act of Oblivion to the list.

148The_Hibernator
Jan 24, 2025, 9:15 am

Sorry to hear about your mom! I know it's hard to lose a mom. I lost mine in 2020. I hope if she passes it is peaceful.

149atozgrl
Jan 24, 2025, 12:24 pm

Rhian, I am so sorry to hear about your mom. As the others have said, I am very glad you have an alternative to the hospital. Don't forget to take care of yourself as well.

150Crazymamie
Jan 24, 2025, 12:38 pm

Rhian, I am sorry to read about your mom. Keeping you in my thoughts.

151SandDune
Jan 26, 2025, 8:12 am

My mother passed away late on Friday. I think it was a relief to her at the end. She had lived a long life and was quite independent until only a few years ago, but I think she was ready to go now.

152kidzdoc
Jan 26, 2025, 8:20 am

>151 SandDune: I'm very sorry to hear about your mother's passing, Rhian. My prayers go out to you and your family.

153lauralkeet
Jan 26, 2025, 9:22 am

I'm so sorry, Rhian. It's of some comfort to feel like she was ready, but still very difficult for you and all who cared for her. Thinking of you and your family during this time.

154richardderus
Jan 26, 2025, 9:31 am

>151 SandDune: Sad with you on her passing, glad for her that the day came as rapidly as it did. I know all the words in the world don't change your feelings of loss. I hope you know we're all happy for you to share them with us as you want to.

155CDVicarage
Jan 26, 2025, 10:11 am

Sorry to hear this, Rhian, and I hope the fact that she was ready makes it easier for you.

156ctpress
Jan 26, 2025, 10:47 am

Sorry to hear about your loss, Rhian, but good to know that she was ready to go. Thinking of you.

157m.belljackson
Jan 26, 2025, 11:49 am

>151 SandDune: Sending healing thoughts to you and your family at this sad time.

158katiekrug
Jan 26, 2025, 12:11 pm

Thinking of you, Rhian. No matter the circumstances, it's never easy. Take care.

159Crazymamie
Jan 26, 2025, 1:26 pm

I am sorry for your loss, Rhian. I love what Richard said up there and how he said it.

160drneutron
Jan 26, 2025, 5:28 pm

So sorry, Rhian.

161laytonwoman3rd
Jan 26, 2025, 5:30 pm

Condolences on the loss of your mother, Rhian. It is a blessing to leave when the time is right, but those left behind will grieve no less for that. I hope you will have time to sit quietly with good memories whenever you wish.

162BLBera
Jan 26, 2025, 5:38 pm

I am sorry for the loss of your mother, Rhian. Take care.

163quondame
Jan 26, 2025, 7:47 pm

Condolences on your loss.

164vancouverdeb
Jan 27, 2025, 2:05 am

I'm so sorry for the loss of your mother, Rhian. Take care. I will be thinking of you and your family.

165Sakerfalcon
Jan 27, 2025, 8:46 am

I'm very sorry to hear of your mother's passing. I hope the fact that she was at peace and at home makes it a little easier to bear. Thinking of you.

166norabelle414
Jan 27, 2025, 9:47 am

So sorry for your loss, Rhian

167alcottacre
Jan 27, 2025, 10:37 am

>130 SandDune: Adding that one to the BlackHole. Thanks for the review and recommendation, Rhian!

>151 SandDune: Oh, I am so sorry to hear that. My condolences, Rhian. I am glad that you believe that she was ready to go. I think that is so important.

168magicians_nephew
Edited: Jan 27, 2025, 12:15 pm

>151 SandDune: God rest your mother's soul, Rhian.

Glad she was ready and at peace.

Healing thoughts to you as her spirit rises.

Death ends a life - but not a relationship.

169MickyFine
Jan 27, 2025, 6:43 pm

Sending my condolences to you and yours, Rhian.

170atozgrl
Jan 27, 2025, 8:50 pm

My condolences, Rhian, I am sorry to hear of your loss. I second (or third) what >154 richardderus: and >161 laytonwoman3rd: said. Have you been able to contact your sister? You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

171AMQS
Jan 27, 2025, 11:16 pm

Oh Rhian, I am so very sorry. Even if she was ready it still leaves grief behind for those who love her. She really did live a long life- wasn’t she over 100? I will be thinking about you and your family with love.

172Ameise1
Jan 28, 2025, 7:10 am

My deepest sympathy, Rhian. It's so hard to let your mum go. I hope that many good memories will bring a smile to your face. My thoughts are with you and yours.

173ursula
Jan 28, 2025, 8:01 am

I'm adding my condolences to everyone else's, many others have said it all more eloquently than I could so I'll just say that I'm thinking of you.

174Caroline_McElwee
Jan 28, 2025, 9:25 am

Condolences Rhian. I think a lot of people, especially in older age, know when they are ready to go. Keeping you and your family in my thoughts.

175ArlieS
Jan 28, 2025, 12:23 pm

Condolences on the loss of your mother, Rhian.

176figsfromthistle
Jan 28, 2025, 2:57 pm

>151 SandDune: My condolences to you and your family. Keeping you in my thoughts ((hugs))

177johnsimpson
Feb 1, 2025, 4:37 pm

Hi Rhian my dear, i am so sorry to read of the loss of your mother my dear and send condolences to all the family at this sad time from both of us, dear friend.

178Familyhistorian
Feb 3, 2025, 1:28 am

So sorry to read about the passing of your mother, Rhian. Were you able to get a hold of your sister?

179PaulCranswick
Feb 3, 2025, 1:30 am

Dear Rhian, I am so sorry I missed the news of the passing of your mother. I can also understand that your feelings of grief are tempered somewhat by the circumstances of her age and situation.

Take care and give our love to MrSandDune and J.

180Deern
Feb 9, 2025, 12:34 am

Dear Rhian, I am so sorry to read about the passing of your mother and I‘m sending my condolences to you and all the family. I am thinking of you.

181SandDune
Feb 10, 2025, 12:04 pm

Thank you so much everyone for your kind thoughts - I'm sorry that I haven't felt able to reply sooner. To be honest, my mother's death has hit me harder than I was perhaps expecting. Given her age and her poor quality of life, logically I was expecting to find it something of a relief, she was so obviously ready to go, but it has hit me pretty hard. And my relationship with my mother could be strained at times, no major failings out, but we were very different people. The funeral is going to be on Friday, and I will be so pleased when that is over. It's going to be a pretty small affair, really just her children grandchildren and great grandchildren in the main. Unfortunately, as I mentioned, my sister had just departed on a three week cruise when my mother died, and that has complicated matters a lot as she does not get back until the day before the funeral. Communicating with her has been difficult when she was at sea, and she has also not been at all well as well (her health isn't great generally) so I have been dealing with all the arrangements.

182laytonwoman3rd
Feb 10, 2025, 1:50 pm

It's a complicated emotional upset, no matter what your relationship may have been...no wonder you've been set back by your mother's death. And the details can be overwhelming, especially if you're handling it all by yourself. I hope you can find some small pleasures to soften it all for you soon, Rhian.

183SandDune
Feb 10, 2025, 2:29 pm

>182 laytonwoman3rd: Thank you. Over the weekend we did do some things that were not funeral related, which I found a huge relief. On Saturday we went into London to see a performance of 'Canned Goods' at Southwark theatre, a very small theatre outside the West End. We had tickets for the previous weekend, but I hadn't felt up to going then, so we were able to postpone the tickets for a week. It wasn't exactly a cheerful play, dealing with the opening of World War II, but at least it was something different.

And then yesterday was Jacob's birthday so we took him out to lunch at a nice Italian restaurant locally. He's been having a rough time of it recently: the week before last he had a very nasty sickness / flu type bug which kept him off work all week, and in the midst of that he managed to really hurt his ankle and so ended up in A&E at 3 o'clock in the morning! (Turns out it's nothing too serious, just a sprained ankle, but his school insisted on moving all his classes downstairs as he was on crutches.)

184lauralkeet
Feb 10, 2025, 3:20 pm

>181 SandDune: I also had a complicated relationship with my mother and her death came a lot sooner than I expected. Coming just 4 months after my father's, it threw me for a loop. I know you're living in a fog right now, and can sympathize with that. I'm glad you're getting out and about doing other things. That will help.

185vancouverdeb
Feb 11, 2025, 1:44 am

It's difficult time you have are having , Rhian. I'm glad you had some non -funeral related activities and hope that you were able to get your thoughts off the funeral and passing of your mom. Take care, Rhian.

186Caroline_McElwee
Feb 12, 2025, 11:17 am

The non-funeral related things are so important Rhian, and aid sanity. I hope Friday goes as you would hope, and that slowly you accommodate the loss, it is a bit more complex when it hits you harder than expected.

Sorry to hear Joseph has had a bit of a time of it healthwise. Glad the school were thoughtful in relocating his classes.

187BLBera
Feb 12, 2025, 2:29 pm

Take care of yourself, Rhian. It's only natural that you should be hit hard, especially if you have had to do all the arrangements.

188SandDune
Feb 15, 2025, 9:23 am

My mother's funeral was yesterday and everything went smoothly. I had got myself worked up about so many of the minor details. Was the church going to seem too big for a small funeral (it was fine), would everyone turn up (they did), would there be enough food at the wake (there was) and most important of all, would my sister actually be well enough to attend the funeral (she was). This coming week is half term so I am going to do a few more pleasant things with Mr SandDune over the next few days, and then focus on getting probate sorted out the following week.

189MickyFine
Feb 15, 2025, 9:45 am

I'm glad to hear the service for your mother went smoothly and that your sister was able to attend.

190SandDune
Edited: Feb 15, 2025, 10:09 am

8. The Other Valley Scott Alexander Howard. ***1/2



Odile is coming to the end of her school days in the valley when her life is interrupted by a glimpse of some masked figures near her school. She recognises them as the parents of her school friend Alain, and in that recognition realises that Alain must die in the near future. For the valley is repeated over and over again: to the west the valleys stretch back into the past, to the east they stretch into the future. Each adjacent valley is exactly the same – the same town, the same lake, the same agricultural land surrounding, and the same people – but each is 20 years apart in time. The borders of the valleys are fiercely guarded, and visits between them are allowed only in rare circumstances, such as for parents to see for one last time a child who has died too young. And as Odile suspects, Alain is killed in an accident, an event which has far-reaching effects on Odile's own life. But with the past only a mountain range away, maybe it's not too difficult to change ....

At the front of the parlor was a chalkboard, murky green like lakewater. On the wall beside me was a large topographic map of the valleys. It covered much more terrain than the engraving in my mother’s book: here I counted a dozen lakes in each direction, with intricate details in the mountains. The map showed the border fences, represented as raised silver lines enclosing the towns and some surrounding land. The enclosures formed loose circles, crossing the lakes to capture a crescent of each western shore. The town in the middle of the map was unlabeled, but the foreign valleys to the left and right bore their proper names, written in neat type and accompanied by what I realized were temporal designations:

Ouest 3 (-60) Ouest 2 (-40) Ouest 1 (-20) Est 1 (+20) Est 2 (+40) Est 3 (+60)

Studying the series, it occurred to me that although the valley where I lived was in the center, that was only relative. In the eyes of the others, theirs would be centered, and mine would be off to the side—somebody’s future, somebody’s past. Therefore, however different everything else must be in those distant places, the map on this wall would look exactly the same.


The idea behind this book was interesting, and there were elements I really enjoyed. I could happily accept the time-travelling valleys as a concept. But what I really struggled with was the world that Scott Alexander Howard created within each valley. There is basically a smallish valley with a lake surrounded by limited agricultural land (most of which seems to produce wine - there's a vaguely French feeling to the whole book, after all) and a single town that is only big enough to support two schools. And that's it. But it's a world with cars and buses and luxury goods shops and an orchestra, and a whole load of other things that it should be absolutely impossible to sustain given the available resources. And that makes no sense to me at all.

So, a promising first book, but one that could have been a lot better.

191lauralkeet
Feb 15, 2025, 12:23 pm

>188 SandDune: I'm glad everything went so well, Rhian. I hope you and MrSandDune make the most of this coming week. You've earned it.

192LovingLit
Feb 15, 2025, 6:12 pm

Hi Rhian- I add my sympathies to you. I feel terribly weighed down by the prospect of the death of a loved one - which is not the way to do it, I understand, as I know that there is no such thing as grieving in advance. I'm glad to hear the funneral went OK at least :) ((hugs))

193SandDune
Feb 16, 2025, 6:52 am

9. Shards of Honour Lois McMaster Bujold ****



This was a reread - here is my review from when I first read it in 2014.

This is the first book I've read by this author although I've seen her name around LT a lot recently, but this was great fun so I'll definitely be following it up with the next one in this series.

Captain Cordelia Naismith, from the peaceful world of Beta Colony, commands a scientific survey team on what is thought to be a previously unexplored planet. But when a sudden violent and unexpected encounter with a military party from the warlike planet of Barrayar leaves one of her party dead, and another seriously injured, Cordelia is left stranded on the planet while her outnumbered team make their escape. To make the situation worse, she is not alone: stranded alongside her is the Barrayaran commander, the notorious Captain Aral Vorkosigan, otherwise known as the Butcher of Komarr, notorious for ordering the ruling senate of Komarr murdered after they had surrendered following the Barrayaran invasion. But Vorkosigan has troubles of his own, abandoned after the mutiny of some of his own men in one of the violent power struggles that characterise Barrayaran society, he must get to the Barrayaran supply cache several hundred kilometres away to have any chance of survival and of reasserting his authority. As his prisoner, Cordelia has no choice but to accompany him, but as their journey continues and they both realise that they must cooperate to survive, she discovers that Vorkosigan is a much more complex character that his reputation would suggest.

194SandDune
Feb 16, 2025, 7:02 am

10. Barrayar Lois McMaster Bujold ****



Another re-read, and my review from 2014. Spoilers for Shards of Honour! its immediate predecessor:

Captain Cordelia Naismith is now Lady Vorkosigan, having married Admiral Aral Vorkosigan at the end of previous book Cordelia's Honor, and is coming to terms with the life of a Barrayan lady. A life surrounded by liveried retainers and armed guards, beset by the formal protocol of Barrayan society, and the difficulties of trailing skirts. Not such a quiet life as she had imagined either, as her husband has been appointed regent to the four year old Prince Gregor, who will succeed the dying Emperor Ezar. And she is also coming to terms with her pregnancy, on her home of Beta Colony most pregnancies are gestated in artificial wombs, once the potential parent has passed the appropriate physical, psychological and economic tests of course, and taken the course to qualify for a parent's licence, so that the more natural arrangements on Barrayar seem a little primitive.

But Barrayan politics are anything but peaceful and Cordelia is left very little time to enjoy her pregnancy in peace. Not everyone was happy with Admiral Vorkosigan's elevation to become regent, considering him dangerously progressive in some of his attitudes, and an assassination attempt soon brings home that his position is not secure. And as events develop it becomes apparent that the life of action that Cordelia had known as a captain in the Betan Astronomical Survey is by no means over.

A really fun read this one. I don't think I absolutely love the series so far as much as some people but I do like it a lot. In particular, the contrast of the Barrayaran and Betan societies works very well with oddities for the reader on both sides.


One thing I would change about this review after reading all the books in the series is that I know absolutely do see why people love this series. It has become my number one thing to read in times of stress.

195SandDune
Feb 16, 2025, 7:06 am

>191 lauralkeet: >192 LovingLit: Thank you

>192 LovingLit: I hope you can find ways of dealing with your stress Megan.

196SandDune
Feb 16, 2025, 7:11 am

Incidentally, a little while ago I read this article by Jo Walton about what to read when you've finished the Vorkosigan saga. I've gradually moved from Georgette Heyer to Lois McMaster Bujold when I want a comfort reads, and it looks like I'm not the only one who sees certain similarities in some of the books!

https://reactormag.com/something-else-like-lois-mcmaster-bujolds-vorkosigan-saga...

197BLBera
Feb 16, 2025, 9:21 am

>196 SandDune: Interesting, Rhian. Bujold and Heyer aren't connected in my mind. I will give Bujold a try.

I'm glad the funeral went as planned and hope you can rest and relax a bit.

198SandDune
Feb 16, 2025, 10:58 am

>196 SandDune: They weren't connected in my mind either until I read that article - you'd think there couldn't be anything more different. And I think it only applies to some of the books. But once the idea was out there I can sort of see what she means. And both authors have come to fill a similar place for me when I need something familiar and reassuring.

199Caroline_McElwee
Feb 17, 2025, 1:47 pm

>188 SandDune: I'm glad it all went well, ultimately I think funerals can be very cathartic. Glad you are doing some nice things now Rhian.

200quondame
Feb 18, 2025, 11:22 pm

>197 BLBera: >198 SandDune: Part of the connection is that Bujold is a fan of Heyer. And also has a deft hand with situational humor and dialog. A significant number of F&SF fans in the 70s and 80s were Heyer fans and Regency dances were a feature at a number of SF conventions. It doesn't seem an obvious match, but has been explained by the readers liking "other" worlds and societies, and both the past the future and Middle Earth all qualify as other.

201ArlieS
Feb 21, 2025, 1:04 pm

Belated condolences on the death of your mother. I don't think we ever react in quite the way we expected to a death of a parent, or indeed anyone with whom we've had a long relationship.

203richardderus
Feb 21, 2025, 6:24 pm

>196 SandDune: ...strange the mind that can see the connection BTW Heyer and Bujold, yet it's there when you look.

I'm so gladdened for the well-made and -attended celebration of your mother's life. It's down to reshaping your life maps now. Never easy nor fun. *hugs*

204bell7
Feb 21, 2025, 7:59 pm

So sorry for the loss of your mother, Rhian. I'm glad the wake/funeral went well and hope probate, etc. goes as smoothly as it can.

205Whisper1
Feb 21, 2025, 10:11 pm

I am sorry that you lost you mother Rhian. Grief is always hard to process. I'll be thinking of you.

206SandDune
Feb 22, 2025, 9:44 am

>199 Caroline_McElwee: >200 quondame: >201 ArlieS: >203 richardderus: >204 bell7: >205 Whisper1: Thanks - life is slowly getting back to something a little more normal. This week we've been doing a bit of sorting out, as well as doing some nice things.

On Monday we had a trip to a local farm shop to buy jams and marmalade (can't get the brand I like in the supermarket) and had some nice tea and cake as well. Then on Wednesday, we went to Anglesey Abbey, a National Trust property fairly near us, which has a wonderful display of snowdrops at this time of year. They also have a colourful winter garden which was well worth looking at. Tomorrow we are going to an escape room with Jacob and Caroline - I've never been to one before but Caroline is an expert (she worked in one for a few months after leaving Uni) so I expect we'll escape!

Apart from that we've been sorting some things out in relation to my Mum. We collected all her things from the care home on Thursday and have sorted them into things to keep, things for charity shop and rubbish. The last two piles have been disposed of and we've going to see my sister in a couple of weeks time to see what she wants to do about the first pile (mainly photos).

Yesterday I sorted out someone to deal with probate. And being as we were doing that sort of thing, we also started the process for sorting out our own wills (we have these in place, but they need updating), and setting up Lasting Powers of Attorney (which we don't have in place at the moment).

Also on Thursday, Daisy went down with extremely nasty bloody diarrhoea, which necessitated a trip to the vets, but she seems to be responding well to the bland diet and probiotics that they've prescribed, although she's still not her normal self.

>200 quondame: Ah, that makes sense now you mention it.

207SandDune
Feb 22, 2025, 9:50 am

Should also have mentioned that we've been sorting out further elements of our summer holiday. We are going to Poland in the summer, by train, spending some time in Berlin on the way there and Cologne on the way back. We'd sorted out the accomodation over the New Year but it was too early to book trains. It's still too early to book trains in Poland but I've booked the Eurostar to Brussels and the onward trains to Germany now.

Something else that we have planned for later in the year is a trip to Japan. I have been there once before, but only to Tokyo with work, but Mr SandDune has never been and we are really looking forward to it.

208Caroline_McElwee
Feb 22, 2025, 11:23 am

>207 SandDune: Envious re Japan Rhian. Not sure it is doable with my mobility issues, and the longest flight I’ve done is 8 hrs. I’m pondering, and will get some advice from a book group member who was there for six months doing research last year.

209katiekrug
Feb 22, 2025, 12:31 pm

Both of your coming trips sound wonderful, Rhian. The Wayne and I both have Japan at the top of our list of places to visit. I've only been once, and it hardly counts as my connecting flight to Beijing was cancelled so I had to spend the night :)

210alcottacre
Feb 22, 2025, 1:58 pm

>183 SandDune: I do hope that Jacob is doing better now, Rhian.

I cannot imagine losing my mother. My father and I were never close but I deeply love my mother and she is likely the only reason I am still alive.

>188 SandDune: I am glad that having done the funeral arrangements for your mother calmed you somewhat and that your sister made it safely back in time for the funeral. I hope that you and MrSandDune get the time together that you need.

>193 SandDune: I really need to read that series at some point. I have enjoyed her Chalion trilogy but not read any further than that, I do not think. It has been a while.

>207 SandDune: Sounds like some great trips coming up for you, Rhian! I hope you and your mister have a wonderful time.

211SandDune
Feb 22, 2025, 2:02 pm

>208 Caroline_McElwee: >209 katiekrug: I went to Japan for a week about 2007/2008 with work as part of a transfer pricing project. I found it fascinating and the food was wonderful and I've always intended to go back. Unfortunately, I never got outside Tokyo - I'd intended to and booked a trip for the Saturday before I came home but I broke my arm on the Friday so ended up having to come home earlier than intended! I was wheeled through Heathrow in a wheelchair which seemed a bit of a frad! This time we've booked a self-guided tour that takes in some of the countryside as well as the more obvious tourist sites and looks fascinating.

212MickyFine
Feb 22, 2025, 5:55 pm

Glad to hear you have the fun of trip planning ahead for you, Rhian. It's almost as fun as the trip itself (for me anyway, lol).

213Ameise1
Feb 23, 2025, 7:46 am

>207 SandDune: Oh Poland is a very interesting country. We also travelled by train, which worked without any problems.
I haven't been to Berlin for a long time, but we really enjoyed Cologne last November.

214SandDune
Feb 23, 2025, 8:42 am

>212 MickyFine: The Poland trip we are arranging ourselves. It’s (almost) a copy of the trip that we were due to take in 2020, but Covid put a stop to that one. The Japan trip has been arranged by a travel company, but we are self-guided once we get there.

>213 Ameise1: Mr SandDune has been to Berlin a lot (school trips) but I have never been. To be honest, I’ve not spent much time in Germany at all.

215PaulCranswick
Feb 23, 2025, 8:29 pm

>214 SandDune: I love Poland, Rhian especially the area around Cracow and Czestahowa. I think that everyone who visits the area needs to go to Auschwitz and can confirm that it had a huge influence on my life and my outlook in general.

216Sakerfalcon
Feb 24, 2025, 7:45 am

>206 SandDune: I visited Anglesey Abbey for the first time last year and thought it was lovely. The Dahlia garden was spectacular. Sadly my phone died and couldn't be revived, so I lost all the photos I'd taken.

>207 SandDune: I visited Japan for the first time last summer and loved it. I will definitely go back some day. We stayed in Osaka, Kyoto and Tokyo but I felt we didn't really have enough time in any of them.

217msf59
Feb 24, 2025, 7:49 am

Hi, Rhian. I have not been by in some time. I am very sorry to hear about your Mother. It is such a tough loss. Enjoy your upcoming trip. I hope it takes your mind off things. We are gearing up for out Australia/New Zealand trip. Getting excited...

218SandDune
Feb 24, 2025, 2:13 pm

>216 Sakerfalcon: We used to go to Anglesey Abbey fairly regularly until we got a dog (it's about 50 minutes away from us). In fact it was our first ever proper trip out when we had Jacob. But they don't allow dogs, so it always made more sense to go somewhere where dogs were allowed so we could combine walking the dog with walking ourselves. But now Daisy really can't walk very far unfortunately - she's an old lady now - so we've returned.

>217 msf59: Thank you Mark. Mr SandDune is very keen on a trip to New Zealand when he finally retires.

219vancouverdeb
Feb 25, 2025, 9:05 pm

I hope you enjoy Nesting when you get to it, Rhian. I think it is a very worthwhile read.

220SandDune
Feb 28, 2025, 2:01 pm

I'm afraid that the political animosity in the U.S. seems to be making its way over here. I was delivering some leaflets on behalf of the Green Party (which I am a member of) this afternoon. The Green Party is the largest party on the local council so basically an update leaflet saying what was happening locally. I had delivered leaflets to a particular house and had moved two doors down when the owner came out screaming 'Keep your f***ing political bullshit out of my house'. I deliver leaflets fairly regularly and nothing like this has ever happened before. His next door neighbour, who was out washing his car, explained that he was American, as if that explained everything. (Sorry Americans). But why would you react like that to a leaflet in which the most controversial aspect was asking for people's opinions about car parks? Especially as putting leaflets (political or otherwise) through people's letterboxes is a completely legal and acceptable activity?

We are supposed to be in London tomorrow, to see Richard II at the Bridge theatre. Unfortunately, the powered that be have decided that there are no trains tomorrow, or on any weekends for the next four weeks. It's obviously still possible to get to London by other means but it's a lot more complicated, so I've exchanged our tickets for a later date, as well as tickets for Oliver! which we were due to see on 23rd March.

221lauralkeet
Feb 28, 2025, 4:28 pm

I will not defend that awful American and am sorry you were treated that way. In the US you are not allowed to put non-US mail in a mailbox (or through a slot). Depending on how long the awful American has been in country, he may not have known your action was legal. But as I said, I am NOT defending him.

Jon Stewart, host of political news/satire program The Daily Show, said once in an interview (with Ian Hislop, I think) that everything in America usually ends up happening in the UK, just later. He wasn't saying this was a good thing, just that he is not surprised when he sees it happen, whether it's something from popular culture or politics. The sort of behavior you witnessed has made for a very divisive culture here, and I'm sorry to hear it's migrated.

222SandDune
Mar 1, 2025, 5:19 am

>221 lauralkeet: If he's been here more than two weeks I'd be surprised at that! We live about five minutes walk from the offender and I would estimate that we get at least four lots of leaflets a week. He's going to be very irritated in the next few weeks as we have local elections coming up and our local council has gone from 100% Conservative to Green controlled locally, and from one of the safest Conservative seats to Labour nationally. So we will be seen as up for the taking by pretty much everyone and he will be getting loads of political leaflets!

223jjmcgaffey
Mar 1, 2025, 6:36 pm

If he fled Trump, he may be (over)sensitive to political stuff. But yeah, that's an overreaction.

224SandDune
Mar 2, 2025, 3:43 am

>223 jjmcgaffey: I assumed he was a Trumo supporter, as he seemed to like bullying women who are a lot smaller and older than him. I though his behaviour was absolutely despicable, utterly beyond the pale, to be honest, not just an overreaction. He’s not going to find himself very welcome here if that’s how he behaves.

When there’s a general election candidate leaflets are delivered by the post office. If he spoke to a delivery person as he spoke to me he’d probably get his house black-listed and have to collect his mail from the sorting office. And serve him right.
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