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Saturday Night Site Problems

1timspalding
Apr 12, 2025, 1:35 am

As people have noticed, our add-books functionality died on Saturday evening, together with lesser systems that "reach out" and get data from elsewhere. We didn't have good instrumentation on the system that went down, so we didn't notice it until I noticed it in passing. FWIW, this is terrible. LibraryThing needs better alerts. We are working on it.

Ganawa was able to get Amazon connectivity working again, but Overcat has deeper problems that won't be fixed until morning.

Sorry for any inconvenience this causes. Thank you for your patience.

2waltzmn
Apr 12, 2025, 4:06 am

>1 timspalding:

Thank you for explaining. I (and, I expect, many others) really do appreciate knowing.

3PawsforThought
Apr 12, 2025, 5:50 am

There has been a regularly occurring issue with adding books going on for at least a feed months now. Overcat and multiple library sources (don’t know about Amazon as I don’t use them as a source).
I was able to add books both last weekend and during this past week, despite there being issues.

Speaking of issues during weekends, the wiki has collapsed during the weekends on a regular basis for several months now. It’s been creating havoc in the TIOLI challenges.

4anglemark
Apr 12, 2025, 6:51 am

>3 PawsforThought: Ah, is this why Libris no longer works? I emailed them to ask whether there have been any changes on their side and got a reply that said, no, not as far as they are aware.

5PawsforThought
Apr 12, 2025, 6:53 am

>4 anglemark: I’m assuming it is. I’ve been able to add from there but then the next time it doesn’t work, etc.

6ccatalfo
Apr 12, 2025, 11:01 am

>5 PawsforThought: Overcat is responding normally again as of about an hour ago.

7norabelle414
Apr 12, 2025, 11:38 am

Is this also causing the problems with images or is that a separate issue? Last night I got a cloudflare error when I tried recalculating work covers, then I started getting cloudflare errors when I went to any author page that had an author picture. Today I can go to author pages fine but some cover images are not loading.

8PawsforThought
Apr 12, 2025, 12:31 pm

>7 norabelle414: Cover images have been an ongoing issue since the new work page was launched.

9norabelle414
Apr 12, 2025, 12:49 pm

>8 PawsforThought: I have not had any significant issues in months, until last night

10PawsforThought
Apr 12, 2025, 1:34 pm

>9 norabelle414: Really? I have issues almost every time I go in to edit something. It’s been fine for most of the past week, but now it’s a pain again.

11timspalding
Apr 12, 2025, 2:54 pm

It looks like add books is working fully now—except for sources which, for other reasons, are not working, as often happens. Images (covers and otherwise) are struggling, however.

12NinieB
Apr 12, 2025, 3:00 pm

Do you mean Friday night, April 11?

13Charon07
Edited: Apr 12, 2025, 10:34 pm

>11 timspalding: Adding books is broken again, except for Amazon. All my searches at libraries and Overcat are failing again, though the Amazon locales I tried all seem to work.

14rainerc
Apr 14, 2025, 2:44 am

adding books from amazon.de and amazon.com is broken again

15kristilabrie
Apr 14, 2025, 9:38 am

Sorry for the trouble! We had unfortunate server issues over the weekend which affected a number of features on LibraryThing. @Ganawa is working on restoring everything, now; things should be coming back up to their full operation soon. We'll post updates here. Thanks for your patience.

16gilroy
Edited: Apr 14, 2025, 11:02 am

>15 kristilabrie: Are these server issues the reasons some threads are being created multiple times? I saw at least three instances of duplicated threads.
(Friday at 705 pm, Yesterday at 331 pm and another today at 904 am.)

EDIT: spelling

17kristilabrie
Apr 14, 2025, 10:24 am

>16 gilroy: I'm assuming so, yes. (I saw the first two you mentioned, not this morning's, but the timeline lines up.)

19SaintCeadda
Apr 14, 2025, 2:12 pm

Adding books is still working intermittently. I keep getting the error message: Amazon server connect failed. If I try repeatedly, it eventually works, but something is not working as intended.

20ccatalfo
Apr 15, 2025, 7:51 am

Update: we're having issues with one of our servers and this has caused Overcat's Overcat-type searches to not work again as of a couple of hours ago.

We're working on mitigating this and hope to have it back up in the next few hours.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

21kristilabrie
Apr 15, 2025, 9:17 am

(Note: I'll update https://www.librarything.com/topic/370084 when we have something, but we should update here as well.)

22timspalding
Apr 15, 2025, 10:02 am

>20 ccatalfo:

To add to CC: We currently have a problem server, going up and down at bad times. Last week Abby went into the server farm and replaced the CPU, hoping that would fix it. It didn't, and indeed it seems to be doing worse now. Unfortunately, we are pretty near capacity, so losing a server takes a toll. We are working to fix it, but are also pricing and ordering two new servers so we aren't in this situation in the future.

23ccatalfo
Apr 15, 2025, 1:01 pm

Update: Overcat's Overcat data source is back up. We're also working on a replacement service for that, just tweaking performance now. Once that's good, we'll switch to it from our old one and we should be more impervious to server issues.

24BookHavenAZ
Apr 16, 2025, 1:11 pm

Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for your efforts on these issues. I imagine you must be working your butts off.
Just informational, not complaining, but to let you know for your troubleshooting, I'm still having to load searches of Your Library twice on pretty much every search I do (Running windows 10 in on dell laptop, chrome browser). Trying hard to not beat my head on the wall. I should pad part of my desk for the purpose, I think, the way things are going with the V.A. (unrelated but exacerbating aggravation).
We appreciate you.

25BookHavenAZ
Apr 16, 2025, 1:26 pm

I was trying to post a picture of the Bibliocat here but apparently we can't do pictures here. Thought you might be able to use some cat therapy. He's excellent for that. Oh well. Moonshadow also wishes you well.

26AnnieMod
Apr 16, 2025, 1:30 pm

>25 BookHavenAZ: You can post pictures :) You just need to upload them somewhere first. If you do not have another place, LT has a junk drawer: https://www.librarything.com/gallery/member/MEMBERNAME/junkdrawer

Then click on the image to grab its address and post it here with the usual html notation for pictures.

27MarthaJeanne
Edited: Apr 16, 2025, 1:50 pm



>25 BookHavenAZ: Yes, we can do pictures here.

28karenb
Apr 17, 2025, 12:27 pm

Thanks to all the LT staff for not just keeping stuff working but for also keeping us informed about it.

29timspalding
Apr 18, 2025, 11:12 am

At present add books is working—Amazon, Overcat and libraries. (Failures are always possible, and some libraries will go down for reasons unrelated to us, but the system itself is not failing.)

That's where we are, but underneath we are struggling a bit. We are in the process of ordering two new servers to deal with them.

30norabelle414
Apr 18, 2025, 11:17 am

I had a manual-add go bad last night (I was able to delete and re-add), I assume that's related to server strain the same as the ongoing duplicate topics?

31PawsforThought
Apr 18, 2025, 1:01 pm

Still getting no search results when searching LIBRIS and having difficulty finding things through Overcat. When I do get results in Overcat I see things from LIBRIS so there must be something wrong with the LIBRIS connection to LT (their website works perfectly fine, if that matters).

32PawsforThought
Apr 18, 2025, 1:03 pm

Aaaand now I’m getting failed searches on Overcat again.

33BookHavenAZ
Apr 18, 2025, 1:27 pm

>26 AnnieMod: I thought I'd done it in the past but I've apparently forgotten how. Obviously it's been awhile, LOL.

34mysterymax
Apr 20, 2025, 6:42 am

Failed searches as of this morning.

35BookHavenAZ
Edited: Apr 20, 2025, 6:53 pm

36lesmel
Apr 20, 2025, 6:58 pm

>35 BookHavenAZ: You are nearly there. Add the appropriate HTML around the URL.

{IMG SRC="http://host.com/picture.jpg"} change {} to angle brackets.

More instructions here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/328936#7451226

37anglemark
Apr 21, 2025, 2:31 pm

>31 PawsforThought: As i wrote earlier, I contacted them and they have changed nothing on their side recently.

38bnielsen
Apr 21, 2025, 2:45 pm

>31 PawsforThought: Do you have an example of a failed search on Libris? (I just added: Thinking, fast and slow by Daniel Kahneman by using Libris as source, so something works)

39PawsforThought
Apr 21, 2025, 4:11 pm

>38 bnielsen: I was adding works by Euripides and it worked approximately 1/4 of the time. I kept going and clicking search over and over. I did get them all eventually but it took a lot longer than it normally would have. And this was three days ago and I haven’t added anything since.

40bnielsen
Apr 21, 2025, 4:20 pm

>39 PawsforThought: Thanks. I might try to use a z39.50 client to see if a direct connect to Libris is flaky, so it is nice to have an example.

41kristilabrie
Edited: Apr 22, 2025, 9:07 am

National Library of Australia reported failing on children's book searches yesterday, I'm taking a closer look: https://www.librarything.com/topic/370283

ETA: our connection failed for some reason, so I'm reaching out to them.

42lesmel
Apr 22, 2025, 12:33 pm

>41 kristilabrie: They are now FOLIO and not Voyager. If I'm right, there will be new connection details.

43kristilabrie
Apr 23, 2025, 10:18 am

>42 lesmel: Looks like they no longer provide open access, alas. :(

44gilroy
Apr 24, 2025, 6:25 pm

>22 timspalding: These new servers are coming soon, right? We seem to continue to struggle with add books searches going up and down, threads duplicating, and collections misbehaving... Which all seem linked to the misbehaving server.

45conceptDawg
Edited: Apr 25, 2025, 1:07 am

>44 gilroy: We are expediting in every way we can. Obviously these aren't servers you can go to BestBuy and take home. So it does take some time to order them, ship them, and then install them. But we're hoping we are talking days, not weeks. This is an all-consuming thing with us right now. fingers crossed.

46PlumfieldCH
Edited: Apr 29, 2025, 5:08 pm

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47icerno78
Edited: May 7, 2025, 12:15 pm

Still cant add books from amazon germany. i am getting a connection failed error.

Update.
Tried amazon.com, overcat aswell. always the same connection failure

Seariching for the ISBN: 9783734113369

48timspalding
May 7, 2025, 3:38 pm

It's working for me. And I see additions all day. Try yourself again?

49MarthaJeanne
May 7, 2025, 4:08 pm

I was having trouble this afternoon, but it worked later.

50conceptDawg
May 8, 2025, 11:21 am

Update: we have ordered new servers and will be installed within the next few weeks. Obviously a lot to juggle.

51GraceCollection
May 26, 2025, 3:06 am

Any update on the new server(s)? I've been trying to hold back on cataloguing acquisitions until there was more server power available. If it's going to be a few more days I can wait, just wondering since I haven't seen any staff mention it recently.

52timspalding
May 26, 2025, 9:28 am

>51 GraceCollection:

We aren't having any problems as of now—or for a bit.

The new servers are here and gradually being brought into systems.

53bnielsen
May 26, 2025, 9:57 am

>52 timspalding: I think some indexing is slower than usual.

https://www.librarything.com/topic/96191#n8866821

I'm also seeing this. (Searching for Brendborg in my catalog should find the two latest additions.)

54NinieB
May 26, 2025, 2:44 pm

>52 timspalding: But cover images are still being slow to load or not loading at all.

55anglemark
May 26, 2025, 2:48 pm

>54 NinieB: All covers? I only see that with covers I have just uploaded, all other covers load fast.

56NinieB
May 26, 2025, 2:52 pm

>55 anglemark: Not all covers, some existing covers.

57GraceCollection
May 27, 2025, 12:22 am

>52 timspalding: I'll give it a try, but I've been seeing a lot of talk about search failures with 'add books' and problems with covers in Bug Collectors; that's why I thought the new servers weren't up yet.

58PawsforThought
May 27, 2025, 12:34 am

Covers are slow for me too. I was looking through some Thomas Mann titles last night (mid afternoon US east coast time) and more than half either didn’t load at all (just kept spinning) or took ages to finally appear.

59norabelle414
May 27, 2025, 9:45 am

I'm still seeing some duplicate posts around Talk, as well.