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1DebiCates
Dec 18, 2025, 11:30 am

How do you yourself use lists?

What are some of your favorite lists and why?

How is the Rank assignment determined?

Am I right that some lists are set up to be maintained by the creator and other lists are a joint effort?

If someone adds a bad selection to a list (authors wildly self promoting, maybe), can it be removed from the list?

I set up a list as a test. Is this list one that others can add to? (That was my intention.)
https://www.librarything.com/list/47237/Poetry-volumes-by-single-author

2norabelle414
Dec 18, 2025, 12:02 pm

There are different settings for global lists. Only the list creator can change these:

Numbered? - the options are "numbered", "unnumbered" or "numbered or unnumbered".
If "numbered" then when individuals add books to their list they are ranked 1, 2, 3, etc.
If "unnumbered" then when individuals add books to their list they are all ranked equally.
If "numbered or unnumbered" then individuals can choose if they want their own list to be ranked or equal.

Limit? - the options are "no limit" or a list of numbers 1-30
If "no limit" then when individuals add books to the list they can add as many as they want
If a number, then individuals can only add that many books to the list

Base the list on - the options are "nothing", "tag", "series", "bookaward", "character", "place"
If "nothing" then you start with an empty list
If one of the other options then you will get another field to specify which tag, series, etc. you want to base the list on. Then the list will be pre-populated with works that have that tag, series, etc. There will also be a checkbox where you can allow or forbid users adding other works to the list.

Who can add new books to the list? - the options are "everyone" or "you"
If "everyone" then any user can add new works to their list that are not already on the global list
If "you" then only the list creator can add new works, other users can only add works that are already on the global list to their list

Allow members to thumb books down - Checkbox
If checked, members can "thumb down" works that are on the list, which adds them to the individual list but gives them a negative ranking. This counts toward the work limit, if there is one

3norabelle414
Dec 18, 2025, 12:10 pm

>1 DebiCates:
How is the Rank assignment determined?
It's based on the number of users who have the work on their list, and what rank it is, if it's a numbered list. You can see the actual rank score by clicking "show scores" on the right side bar.

Am I right that some lists are set up to be maintained by the creator and other lists are a joint effort?
Yes, see >2 norabelle414:

If someone adds a bad selection to a list (authors wildly self promoting, maybe), can it be removed from the list?
This does happen. There's a "flag items" button on the right which can be used for commercial spam, author spam, or concerningly offensive (beyond just "this book doesn't fit the list" - I'm talking like adding the Kama Sutra to a list of books for children)

I set up a list as a test. Is this list one that others can add to? (That was my intention.)
Yes. I was able to add a work to my individual list which you had not added to the global list, as well as add one of the works you had added to your individual list to my individual list, which you can now see has a score of 2 while all the others have a score of 1

4DebiCates
Dec 18, 2025, 12:17 pm

>2 norabelle414: Thank you!

If one of the other options then you will get another field to specify which tag, series, etc. you want to base the list on. Then the list will be pre-populated with works that have that tag, series, etc. There will also be a checkbox where you can allow or forbid users adding other works to the list.

Hm, how is this different from the Who can add new books to the list? setting?

I have a feeling there is a layer here to Lists that I'm not "getting." So there's the list but then there is each individual's list within that list?

Limit? - the options are "no limit" or a list of numbers 1-30
Ah, so on Lists that users can add to, that is the limit referred to, not a limit on the List itself?

5norabelle414
Dec 18, 2025, 12:35 pm

>4 DebiCates: So there's the list but then there is each individual's list within that list?
Yes but it's kind of the other way around. Individual lists add up to form the global list.

Across the top of a list you'll see 3 tabs: LibraryThing (#) | Your List (#) | Your Books (#)

The first tab is the global list. It's a collection of everyone's individual lists. On your new poetry list the number here is currently 25

The second tab is your individual list. The number is how many works you have added to your list (whether they were already on the global list or not). On your new poetry list the number for your individual list is 24. The number for my individual list is 2. This is because we have 1 work that overlaps. You can see my individual list by clicking on my username under one of the works I have added, which will take you here: https://www.librarything.com/list/47237/norabelle414/Poetry-volumes-by-single-au...

The third tab is how many works on the list are in your catalog. This has nothing to do with whether you have ever added anything to a list or not. It's based only on what is in your catalog.

Ah, so on Lists that users can add to, that is the limit referred to, not a limit on the List itself?
Yes, but the list creator is also an individual user, so they can also only add that many works to the list.
Here's a very popular list, the top 5 books of 2025: https://www.librarything.com/list/47206/Top-Five-Books-of-2025
Each user can only add 5 books to their individual list, including Abigail, who created the list. But there are 500+ books on the list, because everyone's 5 books are different

6DebiCates
Dec 18, 2025, 12:44 pm

>5 norabelle414: I'm getting it, I'm getting it! With your kind and very detailed help, that is. Adding titles to my poetry list was also very kind of you and it does help me get the concept of lists (mine, yours, ours).

I'm also going to check out Abigail's list. And try, really hard, not to add to my already outrageous TBR.

7DebiCates
Dec 18, 2025, 12:51 pm

>5 norabelle414: Can we talk about numbered/unnumbered now?

On the list page numbered is the same thing as Rank, correct? So it's not--as I thought it was--ranking base on reviews or ratings? It's a rank by the user and their list? In my case, I think it is ranked starting at 1 in order that I added titles.

I just now figured out how I can change my own rankings. :)

8norabelle414
Dec 18, 2025, 12:57 pm

>7 DebiCates: Yes, "ranked" is the same as "numbered". Rank score is based only on how those works are placed on this particular list, not any external factors.

9DebiCates
Dec 18, 2025, 1:04 pm

>8 norabelle414: That makes sense when I look at your list or my list, individually.

But lord help me I have no idea what is going on with the rank when looking at the LibraryThing and the sort by rank option. It's a muddle as far as I can, with the combined title at the top (Felicity), and then your newest title, and mine below that, but mine are not in my ranking order, nevermind the actual rank#--that of course would be different when adding together yours and mine--but the order mine show up while viewing as LibraryThig/Rank are in no order that I recognize.

Any thoughts on that?

10norabelle414
Dec 18, 2025, 1:10 pm

>9 DebiCates: The global list is unnumbered, which means all individual lists are unnumbered, which means all works added to individual lists have the same rank: 1
In the case of the poetry list that means there's a 24-way tie for second place. When there is a tie, the works are in order of side-wide popularity, i.e. the number of copies in the system

11DebiCates
Dec 18, 2025, 1:13 pm

>10 norabelle414: Aha. Are global lists always treated as unnumbered, or did I invoke that in the list setting by setting it to unnumbered? (I had no idea what I was doing).

Would changing the List setting to numbered change it, and how? Perhaps I should just try it and see, eh? ha

12norabelle414
Dec 18, 2025, 1:17 pm

>11 DebiCates: I think so? Go for it!

13DebiCates
Dec 18, 2025, 1:22 pm

>12 norabelle414: A bouquet for you through the ether. You know so much and have been amazingly detailed in your help. Much thanks!!!



14keristars
Dec 18, 2025, 3:30 pm

>1 DebiCates: To answer some of your other questions, I made a list of Books Featured in "Paperback Crush" because I wanted a way to reference the books in the book - it was a fun little nostalgia trip. Other readers found the list and used it as a checklist of what they've read.

I thought that was neat, so I did the same thing for Olivia Waite's Classic Romance: A Starter Pack from the NYT earlier this year.

Sadly, lists aren't quite as helpful as reading checklists for the creator. 😄 But the icon for catalogue status can help there!

15Bookmarque
Dec 18, 2025, 4:23 pm

I have a long-lost hope that a list might be better controlled by its creator when it comes to other people adding to it. That is to remove items that just don't fit, not just thumb them down or classify them as spam. But it won't happen.

16DebiCates
Dec 19, 2025, 6:08 pm

>15 Bookmarque: It's the same on GR. Some lists become useless.

17LeslieWx
Dec 21, 2025, 6:21 pm

I've been unaware of LT Lists until this discussion started. Now I have questions.

First, I echo >1 DebiCates: How do you yourself use lists?
As I understand it, @keristars made a list to keep track of book-related stuff for herself, and other people found it & ran with it -- i.e. @keristars started it as a practical/useful matter, and then it became also social.
Any other takers to this question?

Second ... can one tell (without too many clicks-through) whether a Member who's put a work into the list has that work in LT or not? Is it more common for lists to be populated with YourLibrary books or not?

Third, I have a bunch of poetry works entered into LT. Is there a way I can add the single-author ones to this list without using the search box? Because my first search brought back what seemed like a bazillion works that weren't even close to being what I was looking for, and without field prompts I can't imagine how to make it better. But being able to do it from my Book Details or similar page seems like it could be easier.

18DebiCates
Dec 21, 2025, 6:38 pm

>17 LeslieWx: To add books, I had one browser page opened to poetry books and another with the list page. I copied from one and pasted titles in the list search. Not sure how others might do it.

My list was created as another small point of engagement. I'm assuming people are adding their favorites, ones they would recommend.

19DebiCates
Dec 21, 2025, 6:40 pm

>17 LeslieWx: I should have said I had poetry books in my collection opened.

20LeslieWx
Dec 21, 2025, 6:55 pm

>18 DebiCates: To add books, I had one browser page opened to poetry books and another with the list page. I copied from one and pasted titles in the list search.

Ahh, excellent! That helps. In cases where it doesn't help as much, I was able to narrow the search by entering
Title , Author

My list was created as another small point of engagement. I'm assuming people are adding their favorites, ones they would recommend.

Well you got me engaged :) But ever since I became engaged I've planned to enter all my single-author poetry books, just to broaden the pool 😁. (But if you can figure out how to add a note codifying your assumption, I would comply.)

21DebiCates
Dec 21, 2025, 8:15 pm

>20 LeslieWx: That would be great Leslie. I'll see if I can. Take note, though, it should say on the right that the limit is 25 books per person, a setting I did based on others I saw. I don't know why. ha

22LeslieWx
Dec 21, 2025, 8:19 pm

>21 DebiCates: I'll see if I bump into the limit before you figure out how to codify your assumption 😜

23DebiCates
Dec 21, 2025, 8:22 pm

>22 LeslieWx: I added a description. It was right there, first thing. ha

How many titles do you have, Leslie? Maybe I should just take off the limit.

24LeslieWx
Dec 21, 2025, 8:41 pm

It looks like 41 single-author works representing maybe 20-25 authors.

It is *totally* your call on your list! I'm just amused by how many of these books are rare on LT ... plus I'm generally obedient when there's a rule, and a little more wilful when there isn't!

25DebiCates
Dec 21, 2025, 9:36 pm

>24 LeslieWx: The 25 seems an arbitrary number. Especially when you have titles that are rare on LT, and thus we'd be deprived.

I'm going now to change. To no limit. Why not?

26LeslieWx
Edited: Dec 22, 2025, 12:29 am

>25 DebiCates: I love it! :)

Edited To Add: +1 for figuring out how to add a description!

27LeslieWx
Dec 22, 2025, 12:28 am

On the right hand nav bar of the Lists (List?) page https://www.librarything.com/list/47237/Poetry-volumes-by-single-author (whether one is looking at the LT, YourList, or YourBooks tab) one sees

Current Discussions
None

Neither phrase nor word are hyperlinks.

Where would such a discussion come from? How does one initiate a discussion?

28DebiCates
Edited: Dec 22, 2025, 12:38 am

>27 LeslieWx: I think that cross-references the list's books to discussions in groups.

I'm going to put a touchstone here of one of your books. The Trouble with Poetry and Other Poems Let's see if that then creates a discussion. Or, does the title need to be a group topic?

ETA: it might take a bit to populate.

29norabelle414
Dec 22, 2025, 10:31 am

I don't think the "Discussions" feature works. Even looking at lists with a lot of books that have discussion threads they all say "none"

30LeslieWx
Dec 22, 2025, 11:17 am

>29 norabelle414: Ahhh, thanks.

31DebiCates
Dec 22, 2025, 2:05 pm

32DebiCates
Dec 23, 2025, 9:39 am

I noticed that there is an option to see Book Discussions on the left here in Talk. I wonder if that is the discussion that the lists refer to. It is connected to setting the About for the message (on the right).

I'm going to try that here and see if that will works.

33MandyApgar
Edited: Dec 23, 2025, 11:30 am

Not sure about 'lists' per se but I came upon this site looking for something with a list function. Our house is older (1790) and came with the largest room being a floor to ceiling library with - if I've just counted right - 91 shelves. I have come upon the idea...insanity though it may be...to individually go thru each shelf and elsewhere with my antique items and catalog everything. That way I can have a record, accessible from really anywhere, of what I have. Donate a lot but I just want a nice account of everything as it is getting to where with say certain series when at a rummage sale I forget what I have and come back with duplicates.

34norabelle414
Dec 23, 2025, 11:47 am

>33 MandyApgar: Welcome, Mandy! Cataloging your library is exactly what this site is for! That's how many of us ended up here. I would recommend actually adding them to your account, though, not using the list function

35DebiCates
Edited: Dec 23, 2025, 11:50 am

>33 MandyApgar: Yes, LibraryThing is a great place to do just that. 91 shelves, sweet! I'm green with envy.

Me, I have a mere 30 total shelves within 7 bookshelves. I use a "tag" for each individual shelf and as I add books to my "Your Books" or "Add Books" I tag them with their shelf location. Since having access online anywhere, I have eliminated purchasing or picking up Little Free Library dupes. I also can very quickly go right to where I put a book without running around the house asking, "Didn't I put that book on the nature shelf? Surely I didn't give it away, did I? Oh wait maybe it's on the essay shelf."

Welcome and best of luck to you and organizing your enviable shelves :)

36LeslieWx
Dec 23, 2025, 3:35 pm

>33 MandyApgar: Welcome Mandy! My house is older than me (by a few months) and have ... (counting) ... (adding) ... 159 shelves (4 of which are 48" long) plus a couple dozen linear feet in my spouse's office? (over which I have approximately no control, but which I'm allowed to borrow and catalog).

Your reasons for being here are among my reasons for being here!

I second the recommendation to go ahead and use the catalog feature rather than start a list. For one thing, it'll actually be quicker input in the long run, since you can use the phone app to scan barcodes on books that have them and ISBNs or titles on some that don't. For another, if they're cataloged you can add some simple metadata (data about data, in this case data about the books) that will help you find the relevant info more quickly when you're confronted with temptation.

I've been here since late March 2025, and spent the first few weeks going really slowly, figuring out a bit about how things worked in LT and clarifying what really mattered to me. Our books are "grouped" in ways that make sense to me (and sometimes to my spouse). A "group" might stretch across multiple shelves or there might be 2 or 3 "groups" on a shelf. I even have shelf markers.

I ended up making a heretical/atypical decision: I'm using Collections to indicate "group". Sub-"groups" of cookbooks are rarely more than 1 shelf long and are often 2-per-shelf; since they're all labelled, it makes more sense to me to direct the eye to the "group". Mysteries and SF/Fantasy take up several shelves each, but they're each arranged alphabetically by author after the anthologies, so why not just point the eye to the region? (I also use a small number of Collections to identify ownership, and sometimes past ownership in the family.)

I'm just tossing this out as another option ... and to bring it back to your desires, if I'm at a large community sale and see a "how to use all the veggies you've grown" book, I can quickly pull up the LT thing on my app, tell it to look at my "Cookbooks - Fruits, Veggies, ..." Collection, and see that I haven't yet entered any of those books because the year has been a dumpster fire!! BUT someday I'll be able to see if I already have that attractive book on the table that's only $3 😁.

37MandyApgar
Dec 24, 2025, 4:45 pm

>36 LeslieWx: Maybe I'm using the wrong wording as I'm new here but what little I've done is listed under my library. That is really all that is important to me although it would be handy if we could, when seeing our libraries, be able to see what each book is going for on say Amazon at that moment. Honestly I have no desire to scan anything at any rate as A. my phone is rather old and can't do that and B. a lot of the stuff I go for never has barcodes anyway. A lot of my items are vintage, kind of eclectic. Like I was just updating my acid free wrapping on my copy of 'London After Midnight' to keep the book in perfect shape. The sale I go to the most actually doesn't allow scanning the first day...by my own idea!

More so handheld scanners but about 20 years ago (this is in eastern PA) the sale was being plagued by book dealers that would grab right out of your bag - now, I sell comic books so I get not knowing all prices - but don't be grabby. These would hog entire aisles. A guy reached for something I got first and he pushed me hard and I went flying into a cop that was at the sale...one is always there as it isn't the best area. While I didn't press charges the library asked me if I had any suggestions / etc and I was just 'why not ban the scanners?' and sure enough they started it the next sale for the first day only (there's two) and know what? Once locals knew they wouldn't get pummeled for shopping there their sales shot up crazy! And whenever I go and I hear book dealers cursing the no scanning rule I get to giggle like the 'lil gremlin I am for coming up with the idea.

38MandyApgar
Dec 24, 2025, 4:54 pm

>35 DebiCates: I don't organize as much as my kittens allow me to help them :)

Tried clearing off a shelf earlier and it was immediately occupied by a large, fluffy grey and white purring mass of...something. It wouldn't move so I let it be and started on my holiday cooking.

I'm just ordinary alphabetical order. Closest I get to a nature or essay shelf is my, ahem, weakness for Time Life books (it's bad, not gonna lie). Wish I could have them in my list here under 'T' like at home instead of the secondary editor but oh well. Plus in my sewing room upstairs I have all my crafting related books so anything related to knitting is on one shelf and then another I have sewing and fabric work (quilting, etc) with another shelf misc crafting like folk art or dollhouse miniature construction.

39DebiCates
Dec 24, 2025, 5:58 pm

>38 MandyApgar: I'm going to make you happy, Mandy.

You can sort your Time Life books by T! Not everywhere will let you do that, but in LibraryThing your books and your library is sacrosanct, only YOU can mess with it and YOU can change anything about it.

Change your Time Life books to be organized in LT like you like them organized in real life:

In "Your books" click on one of your Time Life editions titles. It will take you to "Your Book Information," and LT means that quite literally. That information there is YOUR copy to do as you like. You can change the title to from, for example "The Seafarers - The Armada" to "Time Life The Seafarers - The Armada" Don't forget to press the green "Save" button.

Related bonus tidbit:

Here's another thing that happens sometimes. Let's say you have a book in your library that is sorting on the first word "The" as in (a made-up example) "The Library Ignores The" (heh heh). Do the same thing, click on "Your books" then click on the offending book. Under the title is another field, the "Title Sort" option. Click that drop down, which in my example will be set to "First character." To change that, click on the "First Character" to get the other option "Manual" and then click one of the letters ("L" in my example) you want it to begin the sort on. Don't forget to press the green "Save" button.

I love LT. Been here only a few months, but it's these kinds of abilities that make it really special.