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tandem read / group read matchup thread

1VictoriaPL
Aug 12, 2009, 9:04 pm

Sounds like I'm running a dating service.... Anyway, I thought it might be helpful to have a place we could put out a shingle if we're looking for reading buddies.

I'll start.
Blonde, Blue-eyed.... oh, right. *ahem* My edition of The Neverending Story has been whispering to me again so I thought I'd dust it off next year. I've got no particular timeframe in mind. Anybody game?

2lindapanzo
Aug 12, 2009, 11:01 pm

No, sorry, but this IS a great idea for readers looking for that special someone (who wants to read the same book).

3cmbohn
Aug 12, 2009, 11:31 pm

I think we've discussed a group read of Briar Rose and of Storm Front.

4RidgewayGirl
Aug 13, 2009, 10:41 am

And plans are afoot to read Foucault's Pendulum sometime midway through the year, if anyone found that The Name of the Rose was a little too easy...

5_Zoe_
Edited: Aug 13, 2009, 4:48 pm

I think I also saw mention of Anne of Green Gables in January.

ETA: I love it that this thread exists now! It's a lot easier to schedule in group reads when my categories are mostly empty.

6sjmccreary
Aug 13, 2009, 10:23 pm

I'm thinking about something (one or more) by Alexandre Dumas - anyone interested in Three Musketeers, Man in the Iron Mask, Count of Monte Cristo, etc?

7cyderry
Aug 14, 2009, 12:05 am

Why do you have to tempt me? I had Three Musketeers on my list this year but bumped it for A tale of Two cities. I might be interested but not at the start of the year.

8VictoriaPL
Aug 14, 2009, 1:11 am

Mssr. Dumas is one of my favorites. I own all of those so it doesn't matter which one. Let me know when you're interested in starting, I'm in!

9sjmccreary
Aug 14, 2009, 1:36 am

#7, 8 February-March?

10VictoriaPL
Aug 14, 2009, 1:48 am

Sounds good! Really, whatever you pick is fine.

11_Zoe_
Aug 14, 2009, 8:01 am

I'd be interested in The Three Musketeers, since I already own a copy. That would make 4 group reads that I could do just from my TBR pile!

12cyderry
Aug 14, 2009, 1:59 pm

I can do The Three Musketeers in - February/March. So sign me up.

13jhedlund
Aug 17, 2009, 11:09 am

I'd be in for The Three Musketeers also. It's the only Dumas I own at the moment.

14lindapanzo
Aug 17, 2009, 1:08 pm

I've always wanted to read The Three Musketeers and that would be a good time of the year for me. I'm in.

15VictoriaPL
Aug 17, 2009, 1:32 pm

"All for one and one for all!"

Sorry, I just couldn't resist...

16cyderry
Edited: Aug 17, 2009, 1:55 pm

I'm scheduled to go to Hilton Head the beginning of February, so can we start say the 15th? I don't want to lug that big fatty book in my tote bag. I'll even volunteer to do the setup and question threads.

17calm
Aug 17, 2009, 1:55 pm

I remember reading The Count of Monte Cristo, but not The Three Musketeers and I actually have a copy (inherited) and it fits one of my categories. I am in for a group read.

I'm off to fill in a blank on my challenge thread.

18lindapanzo
Aug 17, 2009, 1:55 pm

I could read it while I'm watching the Winter Olympics. I think that's from Feb 12 to 28 or so.

(I love the Winter Olympics and have been known to wake up at 3 am to watch curling.)

19cyderry
Aug 17, 2009, 1:56 pm

DO the Olympics start that early? I may have to get it on Audio just so I can watch and read at the same time.

20lindapanzo
Aug 17, 2009, 2:01 pm

They're in Vancouver next year so we won't know ahead of time who won.

I can read and watch at the same time, except for the Opening Ceremonies, which I absolutely love.

21sjmccreary
Aug 17, 2009, 9:58 pm

#18, 19, 20 I totally forgot about the Olympics this winter. I love the Olympics - winter and summer both. I'm a night owl, so I don't wake up at 3 am for anything, but you might catch me STILL up then to watch curling! Maybe we can wait until March 1 to start Musketeers.

22billiejean
Aug 25, 2009, 10:26 am

I have definitely been wanting to read The Three Musketeers for a while now, so please count me in.

I am also interested in the other group reads. :)

Still have to set up my thread, but I don't know what categories I want yet.
--BJ

23cyderry
Aug 25, 2009, 10:23 pm

Okay, I marked Musketeers for a group read sometime February/March. When we set a date, make sure I'm in. (This was on my list for 999 but I changed to A Tale of Two Cities) I'm definitely going to do it now.

24sjmccreary
Aug 25, 2009, 10:39 pm

Cheli, are you still willing to set up a Musketeers group read thread? (msg 16) I was going to suggest that we go ahead and set a date, but realized that it's still 6 months away! I've never specifically planned to read a book so far in advance in my life.

25VictoriaPL
Aug 26, 2009, 1:10 pm

This is the kind of craziness I love about LT.

26auntmarge64
Aug 27, 2009, 11:22 am

> 18

Curling! One of my favorites to watch.

27calm
Aug 27, 2009, 11:44 am

A couple of people have commented that reading Herodotus' Histories might be easier together, (group read or just support). Any one else interested and how would it be done?
I have the Penguin Classics version and I had planned to just read a book a month starting in January but I am open to other ideas.

28ivyd
Aug 27, 2009, 3:11 pm

re 27: I also have the Penguin Classics version of Herodotus' Histories which has been sitting on my shelf for 4? 5? 6? years, and has been on my list of possibilities for both the 888 & 999 Challenges. It looks like so far I got through the Introduction.

A book a month sounds good to me. I did something similar with Plutarch's Parallel Lives, which ended up taking me more than a year to read -- but I did finally finish it.

29billiejean
Aug 27, 2009, 8:03 pm

I also have Herodotus on my tbr. A group read would really encourage me! :)
--BJ

30auntmarge64
Aug 27, 2009, 11:19 pm

I'm in on Herodotus.

31_Zoe_
Aug 28, 2009, 12:01 am

Herodotus is a great idea! I've read parts of the Histories and really enjoyed them. I'll try to join in for at least part of the group read, struggling through in my purist way and ultimately failing to finish the book.... Ah well.

32cyderry
Edited: Aug 28, 2009, 5:09 pm

#24 Sandy,

I have put a note on my caldendar to pop up on 1/1/10 to check on the Musketeers date for the start of the group read. I can setup the group then and we'll still be early if we are starting in February or March. Okay?

ETA In the mean time, I'll be checking into questions, etc. for the read.

33sjmccreary
Aug 28, 2009, 5:12 pm

#32 Cheli, that sounds perfect - you're a peach.

34christina_reads
Sep 1, 2009, 6:54 pm

I've been talking with some people about doing group reads of Briar Rose by Jane Yolen and John Adams by David McCullough. I'm happy to start threads for both of them (unless someone else would rather do it!), but I'd like to wait until 1/1/2010 to set them up...no point in starting the thread now if we're not going to read the book until next year, right?

35Amy-Sue
Sep 2, 2009, 10:17 am

I'm interested in a John Adams group read and a Three Muskateers group read as well.

36socialpages
Sep 3, 2009, 4:27 am

#34 Christina, I'm interested in joining a Briar Rose group read. next year.

37remusly
Sep 3, 2009, 2:15 pm

I'm definitely interested in the Briar Rose, Three Muskateers, and Foucault's Pendulum group reads.

38mathgirl40
Sep 4, 2009, 4:46 pm

Several of us have Margaret Atwood books on our lists, so I'm proposing an "Atwood in April" group read, where you can choose any of her titles to read in that month.

39socialpages
Edited: Sep 5, 2009, 2:36 am

How could I say no to "Atwood in April"? Great idea mathgirl!

40RidgewayGirl
Sep 4, 2009, 6:26 pm

And April is perfect!

41VictoriaPL
Edited: Sep 4, 2009, 7:06 pm

Fantastic!

ETA - I'm reading The Handmaid's Tale

42Amy-Sue
Sep 4, 2009, 7:42 pm

Love the idea of Atwood in April!

43mathgirl40
Sep 5, 2009, 10:30 am

Nice to see so much interest in Margaret Atwood! I'll start an "Atwood in April" thread closer to that time, or maybe I'll start it a bit earlier, so we can discuss what we'll read in April. Choosing is half the fun, right? :)

44LauraBrook
Sep 5, 2009, 8:25 pm

I've had The Handmaid's Tale on my TBR pile for at least 7 years now. It would be great to finally have that read, as it's been talking to me from its shelf on high recently. "Don't you want to read me Laura? I'm really really good!" Funny how it has been there so long and now suddenly I feel the need...the need for speed. Er, sorry...the need to read it.

Atwood in April - count me in!

45GingerbreadMan
Sep 7, 2009, 4:32 pm

I'll be blowing the dust off Flea's copy of The robber bride in April. Count me in!

46clfisha
Sep 8, 2009, 6:50 am

Well I have never read any of Margaret Atwood's books so if it's ok count me in!

47NeverStopTrying
Sep 9, 2009, 9:35 am

This is getting to be a problem. None, but none, of the books suggested for a group read so far hasn't triggered an "Oh, yes, me too. I want to read that." response. Somebody please, please suggest a group read on a book or author I am NOT interested in.

48_Zoe_
Sep 9, 2009, 3:58 pm

On the other hand, I love the fact that there are so many good ideas for group reads! I may actually get around to participating in some of them this time--especially since planning them so far in advance means that they can actually be on my challenge list from the beginning, so I don't have to worry about fitting them in. Keep 'em coming!

That said, NeverStopTrying, I'll try to help with your request: I'm planning to read Euclid's Elements, Volume 1 (the Heath edition, which consists of the first two books and lots of commentary). Are you interested in a group read?

49calm
Edited: Sep 9, 2009, 4:17 pm

_Zoe_ If must say that if I had a copy of Euclid readily available I might take you up on that, I will see if I can find one by next year! (I don't know how many others would be interested in a mix of ancient history, Greek philosophy and maths)

OOPS = I just opened up another tab to investigate the Heath edition I have read the existing review and discovered that that version is probably not for me -I do not read the four languages which seem necessary. I pass:)

50GingerbreadMan
Sep 9, 2009, 4:21 pm

@47. I'm reading Vägar och möten, Dem oss skyldiga äro and Regnspiran amongst many others. How's your swedish? :)

51_Zoe_
Edited: Sep 9, 2009, 4:30 pm

>49 calm: Oh, too bad :(. It would have been fun if someone did actually want to read it. I did try to choose the most challenging book on my list, but I think you could probably still get a lot out of it just by reading the English. I'm not sure myself how carefully I'll read through the long Greek and Latin quotations in the notes.

>50 GingerbreadMan: You win.

52calm
Edited: Sep 9, 2009, 4:57 pm

_Zoe_ I was serious when you said Euclid my immediate thought was "that would be good". I think it is over twenty years since I looked at Euclid. But unfortunately languages are my blind spot - no matter how I try I am stuck with English (and a tiny bit of welsh) and translations. The frustration of having part of a text that I just cannot understand would be too much for me.

Are you still on for a slow read of Herodotus?

53_Zoe_
Sep 9, 2009, 5:01 pm

Yes, I'm definitely on for a slow read of Herodotus. It will be good for me.

54MarthaJeanne
Sep 10, 2009, 9:28 am

The Euclid sounds like fun, but I guess I'll pass. The German is easy. The other three I have only a smattering of, and while the subject is interesting, not interesting enough to cope with all that, even if I had a copy of the book...

55bella_lee
Sep 10, 2009, 5:42 pm

I'd be in for "Atwood in April". It fits into All Things Canadian :) I haven't read any of her books yet, so I'm totally open to suggestions of where to start.

56calm
Sep 10, 2009, 6:12 pm

I will definitely pencil in for Atwood in April! I do not think I have been disappointed with any of her books (the few I have read!)

I have Alias Grace that I was thinking of reading in either my mystery or historical fiction category (There is a murder according to the back cover- I do not know if that makes it a mystery but I am being generous in my definitions!) or I was thinking of reading the sequel to Oryx and Crake (F&SF). Offhand can't remember the title!

Handmaids Tale is also possible as a re-read!

57Cait86
Sep 11, 2009, 3:18 pm

Wow, lots of Atwood love. Now I can't wait for April!

#55 - Bella_lee, when it comes to Atwood, you really can't go wrong. If you like dystopian novels, The Handmaid's Tale is quite good; her earlier stuff is shorter, while her more recent novels are a bit tome-like. I really loved The Blind Assassin, Alias Grace, and Cat's Eye.

58NeverStopTrying
Sep 11, 2009, 3:40 pm

@ #48 _Zoe_
Thank you. Just what I wanted. I will confess that I clicked throught to check out the Euclid, but I am definitely a candidate for a highly edited, thoroughly footnoted version with a massively helpful Introduction. Plus perhaps another year.

@ # 50 GingerbreadMan

That's a no hoper for me. You definitely win.

59MarthaJeanne
Edited: Sep 11, 2009, 5:02 pm

>48 _Zoe_:, 58 Of course if Zoe was willing to translate the Latin and Greek quotes for us, it would be easier.

60GingerbreadMan
Sep 11, 2009, 5:39 pm

@51, 58 Feels like I cheated somehow...

61DeltaQueen50
Sep 17, 2009, 3:35 pm

I would be interested in the group read of Briar Rose as well. I will watch for the thread to start in January.

62_Zoe_
Sep 17, 2009, 5:13 pm

I've just flipped through the book, and I'm really not seeing all these untranslated phrases. There seems to be an English translation just before or after every bit of Greek, suggesting that he's actually put in an effort to make it accessible.

For example, from a random page (187, if anyone cares):
The latter part of this definition, distinguishing three-sided, four-sided and many-sided figures, is probably due to Euclid himself, since the words tripleuron, tetrapleuron and polypleuron do not appear in Plato or Aristotle (only in one passage of the Mechanics and of the Problems respectively does even tetrapleuron, quadrilateral, occur). By his use of tetrapleuron, quadrilateral, Euclid seems practically to have put an end to any ambiguity in the use by mathematicians of the word tetragwnon, literally "four-angled (figure)," and to have got it restricted to square.

The Greek words are written in Greek characters rather than transliteration, but the italics are there in the book.

The most that I've seen untranslated are the titles of papers by modern scholars and one Latin phrase that had (apparently) come into common usage in English--I didn't know what was meant by petitio principii, but a quick Google search reveals that it's "begging the question"; no actual knowledge of Latin required.

63cyderry
Sep 17, 2009, 6:50 pm

Belva and I are planning to read The Picture of Dorian Gray starting the first week of January. Thought I would make a note here in case anyone else wanted to join us. It's not too long and we thought a classic at the start might be nice.

64VictoriaPL
Sep 25, 2009, 9:04 am

After Linda's wonderful review, there are at least three of us *waves to RidgewayGirl and jonesli* interested in reading The Brutal Telling by Louise Penny. We haven't discussed a time frame. If anybody else is interested, let us know.

65cyderry
Edited: Sep 25, 2009, 1:11 pm

I would love to but not until next year(?) after I have read the 2 that come before it (which I have) but I also have to wait for Tutu to bring it to me when she comes south. So I don't want to hold you up because I probably won't be ready until February or March.

66lindapanzo
Sep 25, 2009, 1:12 pm

VictoriaPL, I'd love to talk about it with you when you do read it.

Cheli, Dorian Gray also sounds good. I'd like to read more "classic" type books next year. I think I can fit classics into my "not my usual" category since I so rarely read any.

67RidgewayGirl
Sep 25, 2009, 1:50 pm

I would like the reading of The Brutal Telling to fall at least a few months into the challenge, but will read it whenever is decided.

68VictoriaPL
Sep 25, 2009, 1:54 pm

Yes, I was thinking of later in the challenge too. Gives me time to read the others in the series!

69cyderry
Sep 25, 2009, 2:58 pm

Can we postpone until April?

70VictoriaPL
Sep 25, 2009, 6:35 pm

I'm sure after April will be fine.

71cyderry
Sep 25, 2009, 6:54 pm

I'll put on my schedule

72katrinasreads
Sep 26, 2009, 5:10 am

Love to do Atwood in April

73katrinasreads
Sep 26, 2009, 11:39 am

Anyone up for joining me to read Les Miserables (unabridged)?

74NeverStopTrying
Edited: Sep 29, 2009, 12:24 pm

OK. So far, Foucault's Pendulum, The Three Musketeers, Margaret Atwood and The Picture of Dorian Grey are all on my "want to" list. Looks like I will be editing my 2010 Challenge a little. Doesn't mean I am not interested in some of the others ... but more than enough is enough.

Typos.

75socialpages
Sep 29, 2009, 4:27 pm

#73 Katrinasreads - I'm up for a group read of Les Miserables as long as the scheduling doesn't clash with the other reads.

76Jenson_AKA_DL
Sep 29, 2009, 4:35 pm

I have Wilderness Tips by Margaret Atwood in my tbr pile and will switch one out of my misc. catagory so I can read it in April with everyone reading her other books.

77_Zoe_
Sep 29, 2009, 9:19 pm

I'm planning to at least attempt Les Misérables next year, though I'm not sure I'll actually get through it. I just hope it's not too soon after the Trois Mousquetaires--I think I've already signed up for way more French than I can handle!

78Amy-Sue
Sep 30, 2009, 10:45 am

I would love to read Les Miserables. It's been on my TBR list forever and I would love an excuse to finally read it. Plus it's on the 1001 list which is one of my categories so that would be and added bonus for me.

79chrine
Sep 30, 2009, 11:19 pm

Hola Katrina. I'm tempted by Les Miserables too.

80lauranav
Oct 1, 2009, 9:44 am

I'm in for Herodotus.

And I need to finish Les Miserables so I'll join that one too.

81katrinasreads
Oct 2, 2009, 8:54 am

I put up a post for the Les Miserables read-a-long looking for input about schedule its here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/74336

82bell7
Oct 13, 2009, 11:02 am

Would anyone be interested in reading Crime and Punishment sometime next year? I'm going to try to read it for my "Recommendations" category, but if The Brothers Karamazov is anything to go by, I may need support to be able to finish it. :-)

83dreamlikecheese
Oct 13, 2009, 11:19 am

I'm in for Herodotus (and Foucault's Pendulum too, if I can find my copy...)

I had Herodotus planned anyway (I even named my history category after him!) and Foucault's Pendulum should fit into my books in translation category. I'll check back next year for dates!

84remusly
Oct 14, 2009, 2:24 am

@82
Crime and Punishment is already on my list for my transgressive fiction category, so I would definitely be interested in having people to discuss it with. Any time of the year is good for me!

85psutto
Edited: Oct 14, 2009, 3:22 pm

Picture of Dorian Gray is on the TBR pile (although several piles would be more accurate!) and is also in my 101010 challenge so a definite read for me next year...

also interested in Les Miserables possibly

and never read any Atwood so Atwood for April sounds like a plan :-) I like a bit of Dystopia now and then so will try the handmaids tale I guess - although am happy to go for other recommendations...

86mathgirl40
Oct 14, 2009, 4:26 pm

>85 psutto: Glad that you'll be joining us for Atwood in April! There are plenty of recommendations in the group read thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/72961.

87GingerbreadMan
Edited: Oct 14, 2009, 5:20 pm

@82 The way I recall it (though it's been like ten years) Crime and punishment was a much smoother read than Karamazov. Bit of a page turner even!

Edit: Getting the brothers' last name spelled right. It's bedtime for swedes, I think...

88bell7
Oct 14, 2009, 5:50 pm

>84 remusly: hmm...I tend to find winter or summer best for longer classics (probably a leftover habit from college semesters), but I'm open to suggestions if anyone has a preference.

>87 GingerbreadMan: good to know it might be a bit easier reading! I liked Brothers Karamazov pretty well once I was into the story a bit, but found what was in my edition books 5 and 6 particularly daunting.

89kristenn
Oct 14, 2009, 9:41 pm

I haven't read Brothers Karamazov, but I didn't have any trouble with Crime and Punishment. And I'm not a heavy lit person at all. Well, I threw the book across the room at one point. But in response to a plot point rather than it getting too headachey.

90rosemeria
Oct 14, 2009, 10:14 pm

Brothers Karamazov is on my top ten novels ever written, make sure to get the Pevear translation. Give this novel a good try.

Here is some help with Brothers Karamazov...

http://www.librarything.com/topic/56544#1220960

91remusly
Oct 14, 2009, 10:46 pm

@88
That's fine with me! I can start as soon as mid-January.

92RidgewayGirl
Oct 15, 2009, 3:43 pm

I'm in for Crime and Punishment. I remember it as a shorter, easier read than the brothers, and a bit of a thriller. I have a book in my 1010 about the investigator (The Gentle Axe), so it would be good to reread this one beforehand.

93bell7
Edited: Oct 15, 2009, 4:25 pm

>91 remusly: mid-January sounds good to me - maybe we can set up a "Group Read" thread a bit closer to the end of the year.
>92 RidgewayGirl: does that start time sound good to you, too, RidgewayGirl?

94jhedlund
Oct 15, 2009, 5:32 pm

I'm in for Atwood in April (already signed up for Three Musketeers) and I'll jump in here and there on Herodotus. I've read about half of it before, but I'd love to peruse it again in the company of others.

95Miela
Oct 16, 2009, 1:07 am

I'm in for the Three Musketeers and for Atwood in April.

96RidgewayGirl
Oct 16, 2009, 8:24 pm

I'm flexible.

97billiejean
Oct 17, 2009, 2:12 am

So many wonderful choices! I am also interested in Crime and Punishment and The Picture of Dorian Gray.
--BJ

98MarthaJeanne
Oct 17, 2009, 8:46 am

48> I find I can't get Euclid out of my mind. I'll have a go at finding a copy to look at while in the US next week. (We're visiting a bunch of colleges, and I would hope one of the libraries would have it on hand.)

99_Zoe_
Oct 17, 2009, 9:43 am

>98 MarthaJeanne: Oh, I'm glad! I found that, despite suggesting it only half-seriously, I ended up really hoping that someone else would be interested too.

100MarthaJeanne
Oct 17, 2009, 1:58 pm

I know I can order it from amazon.co.uk, but this is one I really want to look at first, so I'll let you know my decision when I get home again. (Three colleges for son 3 and son 2's wedding in just over a week. It may take a while to get myself back together afterwards.)

101sjmccreary
Oct 17, 2009, 5:17 pm

#98, 99 I'm not seriously interested in the Euclid book, but out of curiousity when I saw MJ's intention to find the book, I looked to see if the library has it (no - not a surprise), but found another book about the history of mathmatics by Stephen Hawking that includes a chapter on Euclid which went on my wishlist. About that time, my son and his buddy wanted a ride over to the music store to pick up some guitar strings and look around - so off we went. Not caring about the music store, I left them there, told them I'd be back in half an hour or so, and wandered over to the library which happens to sit in the parking lot of the shopping center. Still thinking about Euclid and math, I wandered over to the 500's aisle and started browsing the shelves. Forty-five minutes later my cell phone rang with the boys wondering where I was and 13 science book titles jotted down in a notebook for my wishlist.

So, let this be a WARNING to everyone here: Just innocently reading this thread and seeing a conversation about a book I didn't have a particular interest in resulted in 14 new books being added to my wishlist this afternoon, and it could happen to you, too! :-)

102_Zoe_
Oct 17, 2009, 6:59 pm

>101 sjmccreary: Ha, great story! So what are the 14 titles?

I'm not really a fan of Stephen Hawking, so I'm only at risk for the other 13....

103_Zoe_
Oct 17, 2009, 7:14 pm

Oh, and it distracted me from my other reply:

>100 MarthaJeanne: MarthaJeanne, take your time making a decision! There are still a couple of months to go. Congratulations on your son's wedding!

I was wondering, is there a master schedule somewhere of when all these group reads are taking place?

104sjmccreary
Oct 17, 2009, 7:59 pm

#103 I was wondering the same thing about a master schedule. If I compile a list, I wonder if Cindy would post it on the group page?

105_Zoe_
Oct 17, 2009, 8:03 pm

I don't see why not. Unless it's very long, in which case I think she'd at least post a link to a Talk post or wiki page with the details. Your compiling efforts certainly wouldn't go to waste, and would be very much appreciated!

106sjmccreary
Oct 17, 2009, 9:04 pm

OK, then. Here is a list of the books that seem to have at least some interest (2 or more people).

Briar Rose - January?
Foucault's Pendulum - not sure of the timing, only comment I noticed was "plans underway"
Anne of Green Gables - January
Three Musketeers - Feb or March
Herodotus Histories - beginning in January, reading one book per month
McCullough's John Adams - no time mentioned
Margaret Atwood - April
Euclid's Elements - no time mentioned
Picture of Dorian Gray - first week of January
Brutal Telling - no time decided (Feb-Mar, April, Fall were all mentioned)
Les Miserables - beginning in Oct '09, one book per month
Crime and Punishment - mid-January

Have I missed anything?

107sjmccreary
Oct 17, 2009, 9:11 pm

#102 Zoe, since the list of my new wishlist books is longer than the list I just posted, I'm going to go to your profile page to leave it.

108_Zoe_
Oct 17, 2009, 11:10 pm

Thanks for both lists!

109NeverStopTrying
Oct 19, 2009, 10:40 am

For the Foucault's Pendulum people, how does June sound? Or, more accurately, starting in June?

110PensiveCat
Oct 19, 2009, 1:30 pm

I finally read this thread...I have Herodotus Histories scheduled for 2010. Wouldn't mind starting in January.

111billiejean
Oct 19, 2009, 2:35 pm

I am interested in reading The Neverending Story. I don't think that anyone in my family has read that one yet, but I think that we would all like it.
--BJ

112VictoriaPL
Oct 19, 2009, 2:44 pm

Hi BJ - fantastic! I don't have any particular time frame in mind for The Neverending Story but I'm not starting my challenge until January. Let me know when you want to start in.

113billiejean
Oct 19, 2009, 2:50 pm

Hey, Victoria,
I am not starting until January either. I am still trying to finish up the 999. Anytime in 2010 is ok with me. I will go ahead and order my copy now so I will be ready to go. :)
--BJ

114cmbohn
Oct 20, 2009, 11:35 pm

Sorry, I've been AFK for a while. I would be happy to add that schedule up on the group page.

115sjmccreary
Edited: Oct 21, 2009, 12:59 pm

#114 Thanks - that looks great! I think Les Miserables already has a thread set up.

ETA - would you consider posting a link to this thread in case someone is interested on one of these books and doesn't know who to contact, or someone who wants to suggest another book?

116Megi53
Oct 24, 2009, 6:13 pm

I'd like to participate in the John Adams group read -- I'll keep a lookout for the thread after January 1.

117cyderry
Oct 24, 2009, 10:01 pm

I have a question.... are we restricting participation in the group reads to members of this group only? Suppose someone doesn't want to do the 1010 Category thing, but does want to read a book with the group...we won't turn them away, will we?

118calm
Oct 25, 2009, 4:37 am

#117 cyderry I wouldn't! I think that if anyone wants to read a book and join in the discussion the more the merrier:)

We are all here because we want to read but some people don't want a structured challenge. This year I have been invited to and taken part in group reads from challenges that I am not doing.

119RidgewayGirl
Oct 28, 2009, 1:05 pm

June sounds good for Foucault's Pendulum.

120cmbohn
Nov 12, 2009, 9:07 pm

I'll add that to the list. Any others I missed?

121cyderry
Nov 13, 2009, 1:05 pm

#118 I don't think we should, but I thought I'd ask.

122elliepotten
Nov 15, 2009, 8:10 am

The Picture of Dorian Gray is one of my top books of all time... but I don't think I'm QUITE ready for another re-read yet. Might be in for 'Atwood in April' (I have Blind Assassin and may have The Handmaid's Tale by then), The Three Musketeers, Crime and Punishment and Anne of Green Gables. Depends on my reading mood nearer the time, methinks!

123janoorani24
Dec 3, 2009, 1:16 pm

I'm in for the Herodotus read starting in January. This will be my first group read, so I'm wondering where the posts will be once we start reading it, or do I post my comments on my 1010 challenge page?

124Belladonna1975
Dec 3, 2009, 3:08 pm

I am up for Three Musketeers, Neverending Story and Atwood in April!!!

Yay! Is it January yet????

125VictoriaPL
Dec 3, 2009, 3:21 pm

I am ready for January too. Not that I don't have anything to ready (I'm juggling five books) but the challenge is so exciting!

126sjmccreary
Dec 3, 2009, 8:02 pm

#124 Someone, probably someone who was behind the effort to get the read organized, will set up a thread for everyone to post comments in the same place. Hopefully, they'll post a link here so that everyone will know it's up and be able to find it.

127christina_reads
Dec 6, 2009, 2:40 pm

People have talked to me about setting up a few group reads: Briar Rose by Jane Yolen, John Adams by David McCullough, The Betrayal of the Blood Lily by Lauren Willig, and All Other Nights by Dara Horn. So, does anyone have ideas about when to read these books?

I definitely vote for doing The Betrayal of the Blood Lily in January or February, since I'll want to read that as soon as it comes out. :) But I don't really have preferences on any of the others. So, what do the rest of you think? Let me know, and I'll set up the threads (unless someone else is dying to do it, that is!).

128Belladonna1975
Dec 6, 2009, 3:40 pm

I am up for blood lily in February since I am coreading Storm Front in January but I'm pretty quick so January would work too.

129DeltaQueen50
Dec 6, 2009, 4:11 pm

I am interested in the Briar Rose Group Read. I am good for any time after the month of January. Perhaps we should start different threads for all the group reads and then people can decide which ones they are interested in and when it would suit them.

130VictoriaPL
Dec 6, 2009, 7:09 pm

I'm also doing Storm Front in January. Maybe we should do Betrayal of the Blood Lily for our Valentine's Day read? That's what I did with The Seduction of the Crimson Rose. Just a thought. I'm in no matter what date we decide on...

131christina_reads
Dec 6, 2009, 10:10 pm

@128, 129, 130 :: Okay, I'll go ahead and set up the group threads for the books I mentioned. Then people who want to read along can follow the book-specific threads to decide when to read. It looks like February is a good month for The Betrayal of the Blood Lily, so I'll note that in the thread!

132cmbohn
Dec 6, 2009, 10:22 pm

I updated the group home page with a newer schedule. If there are changes, please post on my profile as well as in this thread, so I can keep the list up to date.

133VictoriaPL
Dec 7, 2009, 7:27 am

Do we have a consensus when to read The Three Musketeers? The page just says Feb/Mar. I'd love March, but I'm flexible.

134calm
Dec 7, 2009, 7:51 am

#133 I am thinking of joining in with The Three Musketeers I would prefer February as I am also doing the group read of Midnight's Children (50 Book Challenge group) that will be in March. But I'm flexible and can probably cope with whatever is decided by the group.

135hailelib
Dec 7, 2009, 8:16 am

I've got the Herodotus to read and I might read Briar Rose. I'll keep an eye out for the timing. Need to start my thread as I have some tentative categories...

136sjmccreary
Dec 7, 2009, 8:59 am

#133, 134 I don't think Three Musketeers has been settled. I was hoping for March, but am also flexible and could really start anytime. How would a late Feb start, finishing up in early March work for everyone? How long will this book take, anyway - does anyone know?

137cyderry
Dec 7, 2009, 3:00 pm

I vote for late Feb start for Three Musketeers. I'm going on vacation the 20th so Musketeers for my trip would be great. Then my mom won't think I only read trash.
I'm hoping to set up the Dorian Gray read this week.

138VictoriaPL
Dec 7, 2009, 3:15 pm

Late Feb for The Three Musketeers would be fine with me.

139cyderry
Edited: Dec 7, 2009, 3:49 pm

Here' s the link for the Picture of Dorian Gray.

http://www.librarything.com/groups/groupreadofpictureof#forums

We starst the first of January!

140lsh63
Dec 7, 2009, 4:29 pm

I'm also in for The Three Musketeers , late February sounds good. I just took a peek at my copy it has 67 chapters. I guess as it gets closer to the time, we can see which editions we all have and how to structure the discussions.

141_Zoe_
Dec 7, 2009, 8:25 pm

How would a late Feb start, finishing up in early March work for everyone? How long will this book take, anyway - does anyone know?

Personally I think it will take more than a couple of weeks to read (probably at least two months for me--but then, I'm planning to try it in French). So I'm happy with a late February start, but I know I won't be done by early March.

142sjmccreary
Dec 7, 2009, 8:52 pm

#141 If it's going to take more than a couple of weeks, then it matters less to me when we begin. Would you like to start sooner?

143chrine
Dec 8, 2009, 3:00 am

While catching up on old postings, I found where there was a discussion about Gone with the Wind in Madeline's thread and Bonnie suggested a group read, which I seconded. After that, Sandy has suggested posting it in this thread to see if anyone else would be interested so I am. I am thinking about Summer 2010 perhaps.

144DeltaQueen50
Edited: Dec 8, 2009, 3:05 am

I would be interested in a group read of Gone With The Wind, it would be a re-read for me, but I read it years ago. Sometime in Summer 2010 sounds good.

145calm
Dec 8, 2009, 3:27 am

Yes, we needed some suggestions for later in the year. I think that is on my possibles list - so would love to join a group read of Gone With the Wind!

146elliepotten
Dec 8, 2009, 10:04 am

Me too - it's probably going in my 'made-into-movies' category...

147_Zoe_
Dec 8, 2009, 9:08 pm

>142 sjmccreary: I don't really have a preference for the start time.

148KAzevedo
Dec 12, 2009, 7:54 pm

I didn't see a thread yet for Foucalt's Pendulum. I'd like to join a group read for this. June is mentioned in the main 1010 post.

149_Zoe_
Dec 12, 2009, 8:38 pm

Anne of Green Gables and Herodotus also don't seem to have threads yet (unless I've missed them, which is quite possible), and they're both supposed to be starting in January.

150calm
Dec 13, 2009, 5:27 am

Can't spot one _Zoe_ so I've started a general Herodotus Thread

http://www.librarything.com/topic/79011

151_Zoe_
Dec 13, 2009, 9:57 am

Thanks!

152NeverStopTrying
Dec 13, 2009, 10:49 am

KAzevedo: OK. I'll start one, since I was one of the early mentioners. I thought since we were waiting until June that starting one now would be a bit previous, but if it helps clarify, then we do need one now.

This is the link: http://www.librarything.com/topic/79032

153KAzevedo
Dec 13, 2009, 1:12 pm

Thanks NST, I'm there.

154tymfos
Dec 13, 2009, 3:03 pm

Count me in (probably) for the Gone With the Wind group read. June would probably work for me, too.

156tymfos
Edited: Dec 15, 2009, 7:10 pm

Is someone organizing the Gone with the Wind group read for June? A bunch of us are talking about it over on the 75 challenge for 2010, too. I mentioned it on my thread there, and got a lot of feedback. I think there's really a lot of interest.

157elliepotten
Dec 17, 2009, 6:48 am

I'd definitely be interested in a GWTW group read, wherever it gets set up!

158AnnieMod
Dec 18, 2009, 12:10 pm

Someone wants to read Decameron next year?

159_Zoe_
Dec 28, 2009, 3:47 pm

Is anyone else interested in reading Obernewtyn? It's a YA post-apocalyptic/dystopian fantasy, and I've seen a lot of people mentioning it recently (though apparently many, like me, didn't realize it had a dystopian element and thought it was a plain fantasy).

160Belladonna1975
Dec 28, 2009, 4:34 pm

I am up for Obernewtyn but would prefer the middle to the end of the year since I am already participating in so many group reads at the beginning of the year.

161AnnieMod
Dec 28, 2009, 4:51 pm

I can join if it is late in the year

162MarthaJeanne
Dec 29, 2009, 4:43 am

I read that a year or two ago. Very good. Very dystopian.

163clfisha
Dec 29, 2009, 6:39 am

I hadn't heard of Obernewtyn but I love a bit of dystopia so count me in. Anytime is fine for me although I need to track down a copy.

164_Zoe_
Dec 29, 2009, 9:42 am

Would September be late enough in the year?

165AnnieMod
Dec 29, 2009, 9:51 am

Sounds good for me :)

166Belladonna1975
Dec 29, 2009, 11:26 am

sounds good to me too!

163> I see it all the time at used bookstores and on bookmooch. I am sure you would be able to find one between now and September.

167VictoriaPL
Dec 29, 2009, 2:41 pm

Any one interested in reading The Scarlet Pimpernel? No timeframe established yet. The beginning of the year is getting busy fast, though.

168cyderry
Dec 29, 2009, 2:53 pm

I'd like to, how about Bastille Day?

169kristenn
Dec 29, 2009, 2:54 pm

I would love to read The Scarlet Pimpernel any month but March or April.

170VictoriaPL
Dec 29, 2009, 3:00 pm

>168 cyderry: I think Bastille Day would be perfect!

171Miela
Dec 29, 2009, 3:43 pm

I would also love to read The Scarlet Pimpernel! Bastille Day would be a good time for me, as well.

172Belladonna1975
Dec 29, 2009, 5:34 pm

July 14th it is! What a great idea!

173cyderry
Dec 29, 2009, 6:10 pm

A few of us want to read Her Fearful Symmetry in May and The Lost Symbol in June.

Cindy, could you please add these to the list:

Her Fearful Symmetry May
The Lost Symbol June
The Scarlet Pimpernel 7/14

Thanks.

174_Zoe_
Dec 29, 2009, 7:30 pm

And it sounds like September is good for Obernewtyn.

Also, despite the abundance of group reads already, I am curious about whether anyone would be interested in Galileo's Daughter. I don't think we have many non-fiction reads planned.

175hailelib
Dec 29, 2009, 8:01 pm

I might be interested in Galileo's Daughter in the second half of the year.

176cmbohn
Dec 29, 2009, 8:23 pm

New group reads added.

177kristenn
Dec 29, 2009, 10:56 pm

I'm in for Her Fearful Symmetry in May. It was already part of my challenge.

178clfisha
Dec 30, 2009, 6:17 am

#174 September sounds good.

Also since it fits so perfectly in a category, count me in for the Scarlet Pimpernel.

179NeverStopTrying
Dec 30, 2009, 11:47 am

I am signing on for Scarlet Pimpernel.

180pamelad
Edited: Dec 30, 2009, 3:52 pm

Joining in for The Three Musketeers - just received it from Bookmooch.

ETA Late Feb is fine.

181cyderry
Edited: Dec 30, 2009, 5:50 pm

I have setup the group read for the Three Musketeers; it is here.
http://www.librarything.com/groups/groupreadofthethreem#forums

Can we start the 20th of February? I have an alterior motive - I'll be in a car for 8-10 hours that day and figure I can make a big dent in the start of the book.

182Chatterbox
Dec 30, 2009, 7:04 pm

Excellent; I'm on for the Atwood in April read, and also the Scarlet Pimpernel, which I haven't re-read in 30 plus years -- who cares if it isn't on any of my challenge lists??? :-)

183NeverStopTrying
Jan 2, 2010, 4:50 pm

Here's a brand new one - for October. There's a couple-three of us looking to read Little, Big by John Crowley. Any other takers?

184AnnieMod
Jan 2, 2010, 5:11 pm

>183 NeverStopTrying:
Count me in :)

185Belladonna1975
Jan 2, 2010, 6:48 pm

183> me too. It will fit nicely into one of my 1010 categories as well as my books off the shelf challenge!!

186calm
Jan 3, 2010, 4:39 am

It's part of my F&SF Masterworks category - I'll be there!

187KAzevedo
Jan 3, 2010, 2:47 pm

>183 NeverStopTrying: Please count me in for Little, Big. Also works for my 1010.

188_Zoe_
Jan 13, 2010, 12:01 pm

Has the Anne of Green Gables thread been started yet?

189ivyd
Jan 13, 2010, 2:19 pm

>188 _Zoe_:

We had a thread a while ago, Zoe, but it seems to have gotten lost on previous pages. I decided that to really discuss the book it would be a good idea to set it up as a separate group, so I have done that, and posted some discussion questions:

Group Read: Anne of Green Gables and L.M. Montgomery
http://www.librarything.com/groups/groupreadanneofgreen

This way, we can also discuss other books in this series and others, or about Lucy Maud Montgomey, without having a plethora of threads.

Hope to see you there!

190GingerbreadMan
Jan 13, 2010, 5:23 pm

@183 Never heard of it, but it looks extremely interesting! I'm in, even though I don't quite know where to fit it...

191chrine
Jan 17, 2010, 1:42 am

Some of us were talking about reading Gone with the Wind as a group read this year, possibly in the summer. I don't think a date was ever set.

I just found out that my Pulitzer reading group is reading it in March. Would ya'll be interested in reading it then?

192DeltaQueen50
Jan 17, 2010, 3:09 am

Hi chrine, I'm interested in the Gone With The Wind group read, I'm pretty flexible as to the date and I could certainly do it in March. What do any of the others think?

193sjmccreary
Jan 18, 2010, 12:06 am

re GWTW, I'm doing the group read of Moby Dick in the 75-books group, and that won't end until mid-June. I won't want to begin GWTW before then, so if the consensus is for March, I'll probably sit out this time. However, I wasn't 100% certain of joining in during the summer, so don't let my opinion carry too much weight!

194tymfos
Jan 20, 2010, 12:40 am

#193 Same here! I'm doing Moby Dick and Anna Karenina group reads now through the spring. I was really hoping for a Summer GWTW group!

195DeltaQueen50
Jan 20, 2010, 3:00 am

I've got the group read of Briar Rose in March and I just heard about a group read of Brat Farrar also in March, so I think it would be better for me to have the Gone With The Wind read in June.

Is anyone else interested in the GWTW read? Should we set up a thread now for it?

196tymfos
Jan 20, 2010, 7:21 am

Is anyone else interested in the GWTW read? Should we set up a thread now for it?

By all means! I'm definitely interested, if it's in June.

Are folks who don't do the regular 1010 Challenge welcome to come over and do this group read? I know of a few who have heard about this and expressed interest.

197AnnieMod
Jan 20, 2010, 7:29 am

>Are folks who don't do the regular 1010 Challenge welcome to come over and do this group read?

I do not see why not :)

198cyderry
Jan 20, 2010, 9:36 am

We had several non 1010 people in the group read for Dorian Gray but we had a individual group not just a thread. It made it easier for everyone to signup/join in and multiple question threads as well.

For those interested in GWTW, have you thought about September in honor of the battle of Atlanta?

199christina_reads
Jan 20, 2010, 10:32 am

Just wanted to remind everyone that the group read for The Betrayal of the Blood Lily is starting in February! Check out the thread for this group read if you're interested.

200sjmccreary
Jan 20, 2010, 3:27 pm

#198 September would be OK - just not before June.

201tymfos
Jan 21, 2010, 4:31 pm

September would be great! (except, being a long book, it might bleed into the annual Halloween group read in October . . .)

(Anyone for Scarlett O'Hara meets the Graveyard Zombies?)

202sjmccreary
Jan 21, 2010, 7:47 pm

What about starting sooner, so that we finish in September?

203DeltaQueen50
Edited: Jan 21, 2010, 8:32 pm

I agree with sjmccreary, we could start in mid-August and carry it over into early September. I also think we should start a thread, in fact I will start a thread so we can carry on the discussion there.

GWTW Group Read

204LisaMorr
Jan 28, 2010, 11:36 pm

Raising my hand for the McCullough John Adams group read! Maybe in March?

205christina_reads
Jan 29, 2010, 9:12 am

@204 :: I'm in for John Adams, but I am already doing a group read in March. However, if March is good for everyone else, I can probably swing it.

206christina_reads
Jan 29, 2010, 1:16 pm

Also, the group read for Lauren Willig's The Betrayal of the Blood Lily is starting on February 1! If you're interested, the thread is here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/78544.

207LisaMorr
Jan 29, 2010, 2:48 pm

>205 christina_reads: For me, actually, anything after March is good, but hoping to do it in the first half.

208christina_reads
Jan 30, 2010, 11:54 am

@207 :: April and June would probably be my best months. But again, I can work with whatever everyone else decides!

209LisaMorr
Jan 30, 2010, 12:45 pm

I posted a note to Amy_Sue and Megi53, the other two who had expressed interest in the John Adams group read. Hopefully we'll have a quorom and can start a thread for the read. I'm looking forward to it. I had planned to read it last year, but just didn't get around to it. This year for sure, especially with a group read.

210christina_reads
Jan 30, 2010, 1:16 pm

Lisa - I'm definitely looking forward to getting everyone else's input! I actually set up a thread for John Adams a while ago, when all the discussion about group reads first started. It's over here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/78546. Don't worry, no one has posted anything there yet! So maybe others who are interested can take a look, and we can discuss a time to read it over there?

211LisaMorr
Jan 31, 2010, 12:01 pm

Perfect - I looked for this, but couldn't find it, so assumed it wasn't created yet. I'll post a comment there to bring it up to the top again....! Thanks!

212christina_reads
Feb 26, 2010, 12:33 pm

Just a reminder: the group read for Briar Rose by Jane Yolen is coming up in March! If you're interested, check out the thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/78545. Hope to see some of you there! :)

213cyderry
Mar 24, 2010, 1:41 pm

April ius approaching fast, are we still on for a reading of Brutal Telling?
If so, I'll set it up. Who';s with me?

214billiejean
Mar 24, 2010, 1:57 pm

Somehow I missed about this group read. And I just got an order from Amazon. It looks like a good one, so if I can find a copy locally, I would like to join in. Thanks for another great group!
--BJ

215ivyd
Mar 24, 2010, 2:57 pm

re The Brutal Telling

I'm in! I still have the one before to read, too, so I'll read that next and then I'll be ready to start whenever ...

216billiejean
Mar 24, 2010, 4:46 pm

What is the one before?
--BJ

217cyderry
Mar 24, 2010, 7:00 pm

A Rule Against Murder is the one just before Brutal Telling. I also heard that Louise Penny has another new one coming out this year called Bury Your Dead.

I'll setup the Group read and let Cindy know to post it.

218christina_reads
Apr 1, 2010, 3:02 pm

There's been some talk of doing a group read for David McCullough's John Adams in April. Interested? If so, the thread is here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/78546.

219cyderry
Apr 25, 2010, 12:00 pm

Here's the thread for the group read of Her Fearful Symmetry starting in May.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/89739

220christina_reads
Apr 28, 2010, 12:52 pm

Here is the thread for the group read of All Other Nights by Dara Horn, which will take place in May. Please feel free to join us!

http://www.librarything.com/topic/89932

221cyderry
May 23, 2010, 11:15 am

IS anyone still interested in reading The Lost Symbol in June? I'm getting ready to check out my copy and wanted to know.

222sjmccreary
May 23, 2010, 11:31 am

#221 We had that book out of the library early in the year, but Hubby is a slow reader, so it had to go back before anyone else had a chance at it. We're back on the wait list, and I'll read it as soon as it gets here - but probably June will be too early. Don't wait for me, though.

223ivyd
May 23, 2010, 12:40 pm

>221 cyderry: I don't have a copy available right now, and don't want to pay $17 for it. I don't think it's scheduled for paperback until fall. So I probably won't be reading it in June...

224cyderry
May 23, 2010, 1:36 pm

Should we move to August?

225ivyd
May 23, 2010, 3:53 pm

I think it said October for the paperback when I looked it up the other day -- I'm pretty sure it previously said the end of June, so they must have decided that the hardback's still selling too well to release the paperback. I don't know anyone who has it to loan to me, and I'm not sure how long the library waitlist is, so I just don't know... I will read it eventually, but don't try to fit the group read around me if others are wanting to read it...

226VictoriaPL
May 23, 2010, 5:42 pm

I'm still in but there's no hurry, so whatever date suits best is fine with me.

227cyderry
May 23, 2010, 9:05 pm

Ivy,

I'm going to get it from the library whenever you are ready.
Let me know when, it doesn't matter to me. I just want to read it sometime this year.

228billiejean
Jun 6, 2010, 3:56 pm

When are we reading The Neverending Story? I can't recall. Thanks! :)
--BJ

229billiejean
Jun 6, 2010, 10:42 pm

OK, now I see that it is set for July. I should have checked to main page.
--BJ

230VictoriaPL
Jun 7, 2010, 8:53 am

BJ, is July still good for you?

231billiejean
Jun 7, 2010, 10:40 am

Yes, that should be perfect! Just need to get my book out, and I am ready to go. I just couldn't recall what we said.
--BJ

232cyderry
Jul 9, 2010, 4:46 pm

Just wanted to let everyone know that the group read for the Scarlet Pimpernel is set up Here.

233GingerbreadMan
Aug 25, 2010, 9:45 am

I'm sure it doesn't stand and fall with me, but for the sake of it I just wanted to declare myself officially out of the Little, Big group read. I have enough left on my plate for this challenge as it is. Hope you have a good group read, all of you!

234NeverStopTrying
Edited: Aug 27, 2010, 9:57 am

It is the end of August and October is not so very far away. A long, long time ago (last year), a number of people said they would be interested in a Little, Big group read and we targeted October. Anybody still out there? If I get any response over the next couple of weeks, I will ask that a group be set up and then see who comes out to play. It looks like fun.

We will miss you, GingerbreadMan.

235calm
Aug 27, 2010, 1:43 pm

I've still got Little, Big on my to read list NeverStopTrying.

236NeverStopTrying
Aug 28, 2010, 8:57 am

Great. Thanks.

237cmbohn
Sep 3, 2010, 12:52 pm

I'm still interested!

238NeverStopTrying
Sep 4, 2010, 12:52 pm

Good! I'll take a look this weekend to see if it breaks up usefully and then request a group.