Jenny Nordberg
Author of The Underground Girls of Kabul: In Search of a Hidden Resistance in Afghanistan
About the Author
Jenny Nordberg is an award-winning journalist based in New York. A correspondent and columnist for the Swedish national newspaper Svenska Dagbladet and an investigative reporter for other publications, she also contributed to a New York Times series that won the 2005 Pulitzer Prize for National show more Reporting. show less
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The Underground Girls of Kabul: In Search of a Hidden Resistance in Afghanistan (2014) 777 copies, 64 reviews
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Underground Girls of Kabul is a really fascinating and accessible book delving into the bacha posh, girls in Afghanistan who are raised as boys by families who only have daughters before turning back into women as they reach maturity. The author interviewed several current and former bacha posh, as well as mothers of bacha posh, to explore why families make this choice. She also attempts to explore the history of the practice, which she reports pre-dates Islam in the region.
The author also show more discusses the shock when bacha posh revert to being women for marriage. Some transitioned back without difficulty, but others faced a shock, and chafed under the restrictions placed on women. Maybe the most interesting person profiled by the book was Zahra, a bacha posh who was stubbornly refusing to return to being a woman. It seemed like her goal was to hang on until she was unmarriagable - then she would be able to work outside the home and live as a spinster/bacha posh forever. Zahra would instantly identify as a man, not a woman, and it seemed like Zahra could conceivably fit the western understanding of a transgendered person. You can't help but wonder if Zahra would have felt this way if not raised as a bacha posh. Of course, other bacha posh don't react in the same way.
I really enjoyed Underground Girls of Kabul. The book explored a really intriguing concept in a thought-provoking and extremely readable manner. I would recommend it for others who are interested in an introduction to the topic. show less
The author also show more discusses the shock when bacha posh revert to being women for marriage. Some transitioned back without difficulty, but others faced a shock, and chafed under the restrictions placed on women. Maybe the most interesting person profiled by the book was Zahra, a bacha posh who was stubbornly refusing to return to being a woman. It seemed like her goal was to hang on until she was unmarriagable - then she would be able to work outside the home and live as a spinster/bacha posh forever. Zahra would instantly identify as a man, not a woman, and it seemed like Zahra could conceivably fit the western understanding of a transgendered person. You can't help but wonder if Zahra would have felt this way if not raised as a bacha posh. Of course, other bacha posh don't react in the same way.
I really enjoyed Underground Girls of Kabul. The book explored a really intriguing concept in a thought-provoking and extremely readable manner. I would recommend it for others who are interested in an introduction to the topic. show less
This review was written for LibraryThing Early Reviewers.To say that this book was mind-blowing would not be an understatement. By the end, I wanted to go around and show it to people, demanding that they read it. I learned so much. All along I have never understood the conflict in Afghanistan, and while this isn't a book about the war there, it did begin to put pieces in place for me. Finally, things began to make sense. And a realization about the seeming futility of what the Western world is trying to do there. In the end, though, the book is show more about the women and girls of Afghanistan, and the lives that they lead due to the political, social, and religious climate there. So much of what the book puts forward makes only convoluted sense, and then, you are reminded this this isn't our culture. Our definitions do not apply, and need not apply. I think one of the most telling statements in the book came from a woman who said she would gladly wear two burkas if it meant her freedom. Because ultimately, that is what the book addresses: that the women of Afghanistan do not have freedom; further, they do not have an identity, and that no manner of Western idealism can erase that merely because we wish it so. Nordberg does not try to offer solutions. In fact, she seems to take a certain amount of pride in that. Western ideals are not the solution, she points out. They do not take into account all manner of facts that make this so. As a reader, I did not walk away from the pages with an answer, but I did come away with a greater understanding of a culture that is radically different than the one I live in, and oddly, with a better understanding of my own culture and what it means to be female. Go. Read it. show less
Engaging, Informative, Interrogative; Intersectional Gender Studies At Its Best
(Full disclosure: I received a free ARC for review through Goodreads' First Reads program.)
"The bacha posh [...] is a human phenomenon, and exists throughout our history, in vastly different places, with different religions and in many languages. Posing as someone, or something, else is the story of every woman and every man who has experienced repression and made a bid for freedom. It is the story of a gay U.S. show more Marine who had to pretend he was straight. It is the story of a Jewish family in Nazi Germany posing as Protestants. It is the story of a black South African who tried to make his skin lighter under apartheid. Disguising oneself as a member of the recognized and approved group is at the same time a subversive act of infiltration and a concession to an impossible racist, sexist, or otherwise segregating system."
Investigative journalist Jenny Nordberg was researching a larger story about Afghan women when she stumbled upon the practice of bacha posh ("dressed up like a boy" in Dari). During a visit with Azita Rafaat, one of the few women* to be elected to Afghanistan's newly formed Parliament, one of Azita's four children let the family's loosely guarded secret slip: "Our brother is really a girl." And so begins The Underground Girls of Kabul: In Search of a Hidden Resistance in Afghanistan.
Bacha poshes are a sort of "third child": dressed, raised, and/or presented to the outside world as boys, the majority of these girls are nonetheless expected to embrace their womanhood - and the subjugation which accompanies it - once they hit puberty. While the level of freedom afforded a bacha posh varies - depending on the family's reasons for passing their daughter off as a son; their level of income; their local community's feelings on the practice; and the family patriarch's open mindedness, or lack thereof - it's arguably better than existing while female in Afghanistan, where women have few rights. In Azita's words, "I wanted to show my youngest what life is like on the other side."
After meeting six-year-old Mehran (formerly known as Mahnoush), Nordberg inquired around about the practice, only to be dismissed out of hand by the various Western "experts" who flooded Afghanistan in the wake of the U.S. invasion. But more discreet interviews with Afghans themselves revealed that bacha posh is a longstanding tradition, deeply rooted in history, that exists out in the open but is rarely discussed beyond the confines of the home - "don't ask, don't tell," if you will. Nordberg was surprised to find that many of the Afghanis she met knew of at least one bach posh, if even just second- or third-hand (e.g., 'a friend of a friend's cousin'). In a patrilineal culture where "having at least one son is mandatory for a family's good standing and reputation," the pressure to produce a son - one way or another - is overwhelming.
A bacha posh can fill a variety of roles, well beyond preserving her family's reputation - not to mention her mother's worth as a woman. A woman's value is tied to her ability to bear children; and, as it's commonly believed that mothers can choose the sex of their unborn children, an inability to produce male heirs is seen as a personal weakness and moral failing.
Additionally, since bacha poshes are allowed into male spaces, the boundaries of which girls are not allowed to breach, dressing as a boy frees girls to assist their fathers in their shops, or take jobs to help support their families. In households where the husband has died or is frequently absent, a bach posh is crucial to upholding the honor of her mother and sisters - not to mention, the day-to-day functioning of the household. In a culture where women are tied to men - children are considered the property of their father and, upon marriage, this ownership passes from a woman's father to her husband - a woman who doesn't have a man, be it father, husband, or son, is adrift; vulnerable; in a legal no-man's-land.
Sometimes, the role of a bacha posh is much more fleeting; it's believed that "magical" bacha poshes can help encourage their mothers to give birth to "real" sons, in a process that's similar to the Western concept of "manifesting."
Bacha poshes may be "turned back" into girls once a biological son arrives; other times, they continue to pass as boys "just in case" (Afghanistan has one of the highest child mortality rates in the world, despite an increase in average life expectancy.), or to further elevate the family's status. They may be presented to the world as boys immediately after birth, or undergo the transition during infancy or toddlerhood as needed. However, one thing remains a near-universal truth: bacha poshes are expected to revert back to girlhood upon reaching puberty - or preferably just before. While most girls don't choose their boyhood, many come to enjoy it; and not all bacha poshes willing to go back. Many would rather trade their gender for their freedom.
Yet some of Nordberg's subjects - she interviewed roughly 36 current and former bacha poshes for this book - continue to defy and confuse gender roles long after it's considered acceptable to do so. There's fifteen-year-old Zahra, a "magical" bacha posh, who refuses to go back to being a girl now that she's no longer needed to play at being a boy; she went into shock when she first got her period. Shukria lived as a man until a month before her wedding; her parents made her a bacha posh at birth in order to protect her older brother - their "real," valuable son - from attempts on his life by their father's first wife. (Having a man's only son elevates a wife's status in polygamous marriages.)
On the other end of the spectrum lies Nader, another "magical" bacha posh, who was lucky enough to have a liberal-minded father who let her decide whether she wanted to live as a man or woman upon reaching puberty. At thirty years old, she's nearly aged herself out of the marriage market, at which point the societal pressure to return to being a woman will decrease markedly. Nader serves as a sort of mentor to other bacha poshes, young and old(er).
A member of an elite paramilitary force, Nader's friend Shahed is a bacha posh who challenges gender norms on multiple fronts: her participation in combat "changes the honor narrative of war" by challenging the old 'damsel in distress' trope. Shahed is not a woman in need of protection. Her family first started dressing her as a boy in childhood, so that she could help her father paint houses. She chose to become a man so that she could care for her aging mother and unmarried sisters. For Shahed, a masculine persona is "a survival strategy that turned into an identity."
Through these women's stories, Nordberg traces the life span of a bacha posh from boyhood through adulthood - whether that entails marriage and motherhood, or something entirely different. Yet Azita's own surprising journey - from the daughter of an erudite Afghani Communist, to the second wife of an illiterate farmer, to a politician in Kabul ("the lioness of Badghis") - forms the backbone of The Underground Girls of Kabul.
In a society characterized by rigidly defined gender roles and strict gender segregation, how could such a practice be permitted? If the Taliban comes to power, it won't be. But as of yet Afghan law remains silent on bacha posh, despite the strict regulations regarding women's dress and appearance. As a Westerner, it's a contradiction I have trouble wrapping my head around. Nordberg explains it this way (and of course I'm paraphrasing here): crossdressing is most subversive during a woman's fertile years, since she's "of no use" as a woman before or after.
And yet bacha poshes challenge the very idea of gender as an inborn, natural construct. Many bacha poshes (Shukria is a prime example), raised as boys, have trouble navigating the world as women: cooking, cleaning, staying silent, deferring to men, taking up as little space as possible, even just walking in a burqa. These are learned behaviors, and bacha poshes remain largely uneducated on performing femininity. As Robin Morgan observes, "[Birth] sex is a reality; gender and freedom are ideas."
While the discussion of bacha poshes is fascinating, I especially love how Nordberg ties it to larger social issues: The importance of nature vs. nurture in gender development. The origins of the patriarchy and the patrilineal tradition. The problems with identifying one's gender identity and sexuality in a culture that recognizes neither in women. The well-intentioned but often misguided use of foreign aid. The Russian and American invasions of Afghanistan. The importance of peace to social change ("War does away with ambition for change."). The objectification and commodification of women's bodies ("Those who hold the power of life control the universe.") Solidifying oppression by turning the oppressed against one other. The importance of men and male allies to changing conditions for women.
Most importantly, that women are not a "side issue" to be addressed after the more pressing problems have be tackled; women are the core issue. The rights afforded to women is a barometer of a society's overall health, stability, and prosperity.
There's so much to say about The Underground Girls of Kabul, but I'm afraid that I've rambled on enough already (as I'm wont to do when I fall head over heels for a book). And nothing I might say could really do it justice anyway. Nuanced, engaging, highly educational - but also quite readable - The Underground Girls of Kabul is a wonderful example of intersectional feminist journalism. I cannot recommend it highly enough.
* I say "few" because, although 28% of the seats went to women, these numbers still fall woefully short of truly equal representation; and yet, Afghanistan still fared 11 percentage points better than the United States for the same year. So there's that.
http://www.easyvegan.info/2014/10/10/the-underground-girls-of-kabul-by-jenny-nor... show less
(Full disclosure: I received a free ARC for review through Goodreads' First Reads program.)
"The bacha posh [...] is a human phenomenon, and exists throughout our history, in vastly different places, with different religions and in many languages. Posing as someone, or something, else is the story of every woman and every man who has experienced repression and made a bid for freedom. It is the story of a gay U.S. show more Marine who had to pretend he was straight. It is the story of a Jewish family in Nazi Germany posing as Protestants. It is the story of a black South African who tried to make his skin lighter under apartheid. Disguising oneself as a member of the recognized and approved group is at the same time a subversive act of infiltration and a concession to an impossible racist, sexist, or otherwise segregating system."
Investigative journalist Jenny Nordberg was researching a larger story about Afghan women when she stumbled upon the practice of bacha posh ("dressed up like a boy" in Dari). During a visit with Azita Rafaat, one of the few women* to be elected to Afghanistan's newly formed Parliament, one of Azita's four children let the family's loosely guarded secret slip: "Our brother is really a girl." And so begins The Underground Girls of Kabul: In Search of a Hidden Resistance in Afghanistan.
Bacha poshes are a sort of "third child": dressed, raised, and/or presented to the outside world as boys, the majority of these girls are nonetheless expected to embrace their womanhood - and the subjugation which accompanies it - once they hit puberty. While the level of freedom afforded a bacha posh varies - depending on the family's reasons for passing their daughter off as a son; their level of income; their local community's feelings on the practice; and the family patriarch's open mindedness, or lack thereof - it's arguably better than existing while female in Afghanistan, where women have few rights. In Azita's words, "I wanted to show my youngest what life is like on the other side."
After meeting six-year-old Mehran (formerly known as Mahnoush), Nordberg inquired around about the practice, only to be dismissed out of hand by the various Western "experts" who flooded Afghanistan in the wake of the U.S. invasion. But more discreet interviews with Afghans themselves revealed that bacha posh is a longstanding tradition, deeply rooted in history, that exists out in the open but is rarely discussed beyond the confines of the home - "don't ask, don't tell," if you will. Nordberg was surprised to find that many of the Afghanis she met knew of at least one bach posh, if even just second- or third-hand (e.g., 'a friend of a friend's cousin'). In a patrilineal culture where "having at least one son is mandatory for a family's good standing and reputation," the pressure to produce a son - one way or another - is overwhelming.
A bacha posh can fill a variety of roles, well beyond preserving her family's reputation - not to mention her mother's worth as a woman. A woman's value is tied to her ability to bear children; and, as it's commonly believed that mothers can choose the sex of their unborn children, an inability to produce male heirs is seen as a personal weakness and moral failing.
Additionally, since bacha poshes are allowed into male spaces, the boundaries of which girls are not allowed to breach, dressing as a boy frees girls to assist their fathers in their shops, or take jobs to help support their families. In households where the husband has died or is frequently absent, a bach posh is crucial to upholding the honor of her mother and sisters - not to mention, the day-to-day functioning of the household. In a culture where women are tied to men - children are considered the property of their father and, upon marriage, this ownership passes from a woman's father to her husband - a woman who doesn't have a man, be it father, husband, or son, is adrift; vulnerable; in a legal no-man's-land.
Sometimes, the role of a bacha posh is much more fleeting; it's believed that "magical" bacha poshes can help encourage their mothers to give birth to "real" sons, in a process that's similar to the Western concept of "manifesting."
Bacha poshes may be "turned back" into girls once a biological son arrives; other times, they continue to pass as boys "just in case" (Afghanistan has one of the highest child mortality rates in the world, despite an increase in average life expectancy.), or to further elevate the family's status. They may be presented to the world as boys immediately after birth, or undergo the transition during infancy or toddlerhood as needed. However, one thing remains a near-universal truth: bacha poshes are expected to revert back to girlhood upon reaching puberty - or preferably just before. While most girls don't choose their boyhood, many come to enjoy it; and not all bacha poshes willing to go back. Many would rather trade their gender for their freedom.
Yet some of Nordberg's subjects - she interviewed roughly 36 current and former bacha poshes for this book - continue to defy and confuse gender roles long after it's considered acceptable to do so. There's fifteen-year-old Zahra, a "magical" bacha posh, who refuses to go back to being a girl now that she's no longer needed to play at being a boy; she went into shock when she first got her period. Shukria lived as a man until a month before her wedding; her parents made her a bacha posh at birth in order to protect her older brother - their "real," valuable son - from attempts on his life by their father's first wife. (Having a man's only son elevates a wife's status in polygamous marriages.)
On the other end of the spectrum lies Nader, another "magical" bacha posh, who was lucky enough to have a liberal-minded father who let her decide whether she wanted to live as a man or woman upon reaching puberty. At thirty years old, she's nearly aged herself out of the marriage market, at which point the societal pressure to return to being a woman will decrease markedly. Nader serves as a sort of mentor to other bacha poshes, young and old(er).
A member of an elite paramilitary force, Nader's friend Shahed is a bacha posh who challenges gender norms on multiple fronts: her participation in combat "changes the honor narrative of war" by challenging the old 'damsel in distress' trope. Shahed is not a woman in need of protection. Her family first started dressing her as a boy in childhood, so that she could help her father paint houses. She chose to become a man so that she could care for her aging mother and unmarried sisters. For Shahed, a masculine persona is "a survival strategy that turned into an identity."
Through these women's stories, Nordberg traces the life span of a bacha posh from boyhood through adulthood - whether that entails marriage and motherhood, or something entirely different. Yet Azita's own surprising journey - from the daughter of an erudite Afghani Communist, to the second wife of an illiterate farmer, to a politician in Kabul ("the lioness of Badghis") - forms the backbone of The Underground Girls of Kabul.
In a society characterized by rigidly defined gender roles and strict gender segregation, how could such a practice be permitted? If the Taliban comes to power, it won't be. But as of yet Afghan law remains silent on bacha posh, despite the strict regulations regarding women's dress and appearance. As a Westerner, it's a contradiction I have trouble wrapping my head around. Nordberg explains it this way (and of course I'm paraphrasing here): crossdressing is most subversive during a woman's fertile years, since she's "of no use" as a woman before or after.
And yet bacha poshes challenge the very idea of gender as an inborn, natural construct. Many bacha poshes (Shukria is a prime example), raised as boys, have trouble navigating the world as women: cooking, cleaning, staying silent, deferring to men, taking up as little space as possible, even just walking in a burqa. These are learned behaviors, and bacha poshes remain largely uneducated on performing femininity. As Robin Morgan observes, "[Birth] sex is a reality; gender and freedom are ideas."
While the discussion of bacha poshes is fascinating, I especially love how Nordberg ties it to larger social issues: The importance of nature vs. nurture in gender development. The origins of the patriarchy and the patrilineal tradition. The problems with identifying one's gender identity and sexuality in a culture that recognizes neither in women. The well-intentioned but often misguided use of foreign aid. The Russian and American invasions of Afghanistan. The importance of peace to social change ("War does away with ambition for change."). The objectification and commodification of women's bodies ("Those who hold the power of life control the universe.") Solidifying oppression by turning the oppressed against one other. The importance of men and male allies to changing conditions for women.
Most importantly, that women are not a "side issue" to be addressed after the more pressing problems have be tackled; women are the core issue. The rights afforded to women is a barometer of a society's overall health, stability, and prosperity.
There's so much to say about The Underground Girls of Kabul, but I'm afraid that I've rambled on enough already (as I'm wont to do when I fall head over heels for a book). And nothing I might say could really do it justice anyway. Nuanced, engaging, highly educational - but also quite readable - The Underground Girls of Kabul is a wonderful example of intersectional feminist journalism. I cannot recommend it highly enough.
* I say "few" because, although 28% of the seats went to women, these numbers still fall woefully short of truly equal representation; and yet, Afghanistan still fared 11 percentage points better than the United States for the same year. So there's that.
http://www.easyvegan.info/2014/10/10/the-underground-girls-of-kabul-by-jenny-nor... show less
Unforgettable, and please remind me of this book if I ever complain about anything ever again. This is an in depth look at the utter misery of everyone's lives in Afghanistan, with the focus where it should be, on women. The tribal systems, predating Islam, treat women solely as wombs for germinating boys. The gossip mongers, so prevalent in a society where nothing else functions, serve to ruin the lives of anyone who acts "immoral". Married teenaged women are killed or replaced by show more additional wives for not bearing sons. And so, the remedy for those families is to turn one of their girls into a boy until they reach puberty, by dressing her in pants, cutting her hair, and making her work. This turns out to be the best for these children because of the freedom (albeit limited) entailed. But how can you keep them down as women when they've been exaltedly privileged as males? And what happens when you force them to change back? The author spends time with the "bacha posh" (literally "dressed as a boy") and their families to learn the ramifications.
I recently spent time with Regina Calcaterra, author of Etched In Sand, a memoir of a childhood of violence and neglect. She said that she had developed an appreciation for being a foster child here in the US as compared to other countries. Afghanistan, from this book, has to be the worst place in the world to try and survive. Between wars, invasions, grinding poverty, rugged terrain, and especially the subjugation of women, suicide seems like a viable option.
I am not a fan of "poverty porn". I try to keep learning, and this book forced my eyes to be opened to my charmed life as a woman of the first world. I am now changed and a bit humbled. There but for fortune/Go you and I. show less
I recently spent time with Regina Calcaterra, author of Etched In Sand, a memoir of a childhood of violence and neglect. She said that she had developed an appreciation for being a foster child here in the US as compared to other countries. Afghanistan, from this book, has to be the worst place in the world to try and survive. Between wars, invasions, grinding poverty, rugged terrain, and especially the subjugation of women, suicide seems like a viable option.
I am not a fan of "poverty porn". I try to keep learning, and this book forced my eyes to be opened to my charmed life as a woman of the first world. I am now changed and a bit humbled. There but for fortune/Go you and I. show less
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