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Works by Jennifer Tolbert Roberts

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The Histories (0420) — Editor, some editions — 11,508 copies, 97 reviews
Ancient Greece: A Political, Social, and Cultural History (1998) — Author — 587 copies, 4 reviews
Thucydides and the Modern World (2012) — Contributor — 5 copies

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Birthdate
1947-02-13
Gender
female
Education
Yale University (PhD)
Occupations
historian
university professor
Organizations
City University of New York Graduate Center
Nationality
USA
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The Peloponnesian War is one of those subjects which, whenever a new book is published about it, begs the question, "do we really need another book on it?" This is understandable considering that 1) having been written about for nearly 2,500 years it has been one of the most worked-over events in human history, 2) the first of these books, Thucydides's [b:History of the Peloponnesian War|261243|History of the Peloponnesian show more War|Thucydides|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1422072332s/261243.jpg|804111], ranks as one of the foundational texts of Western historiography and in many respects will never be bettered, and 3) recently (i.e. within the past half-century) [a:Donald Kagan|12805|Donald Kagan|https://images.gr-assets.com/authors/1411665575p2/12805.jpg] wrote both a four-volume history of the war AND a single-volume condensed version which are difficult to top as a modern account for the conflict. With all of these books, is there space for another?

The answer, as Jennifer Roberts proves, is a clear yes. She demonstrates this by fitting the conflict within the context of Greek city-state relations in the 5th and 4th centuries BCE. By widening her focus, she shows the war not as the culmination of inter-city-state rivalry as it has sometimes been presented, but as one of a series of conflicts which neither began nor ended with the war itself. This is not a novel revelation (anybody who has more than a passing familiarity with Hellenic Greek history understands this), but by adopting this approach Roberts makes several more obscure points clearer, foremost among them being that Sparta was not so much the ultimate victor as merely temporarily ascendant among the city-states, with their defeat of Athens setting the stage for their own downfall a generation later.

Roberts's approach offers one of the best assessments of the impact of the war upon ancient Greece. While lacking the immediacy of the ancient sources or the thoroughness of Kagan's coverage, she draws upon both sources as well as others to provide a clear-eyed understanding of its true significance. It makes for an excellent resource for anyone seeking to understand a conflict which became one of the great referential points of Western history, because while it may have been only one of many wars the Greeks fought with each other, it has endured in the popular imagination in ways which make it relevant even today.
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This is historiography, i.e. not history but history of history. How was Athenian democracy vieed throughout the 21/2 millennia since it briefly flourished. I knew that Plato didn't like it much and neither did Socrates, if his views can be seen separately..What is surprising is that writers ever since, at least until the 19th century, had little time for it either, preferring Sparta for its discipline and toughness, looking down on its apparent fickle mob rule or looking to Rome for its show more republican spirit. As for more recent commentators they tend to deny Athens was any kind of democracy because they had slaves and talk as if the Athenians invented slavery- but didn't everybody have slaves?
Elegantly written, with a touch of irony here and thereeven if at times hard to keep up with a string of scholars I've never heard of.Mind you I came to this on the recommendation of Cartledge's more recent book on similar theme, which was impossibly tangled in its own scholarliness.
Best quote in the book, and from an unexpected source:
"The meaning of democracy is precisely that the people, from time to time, should be called upon to judge the achievements and acts of a government, to judge whether the program of the government is of any use, or whether the men are of any use who take it upon themselves to execute that program"
A. Hitler.
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Very well written. The book is detailed with the academic depth of coverage you would expect from the Oxford University Press but is still readable by an average adult. Too often authors dumb a topic down to an overview of little value or fill the book with unexplained references that make the book difficult to read and requires a separate book to explain the first book.

Professor Roberts provides a history of the conflict between Athens and Sparta for the leadership of Ancient Greece that is show more easy to read and understand. show less
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Absolutely brilliant. I was blown away by the depth and content of this book. It has much more information than I ever expected. I have a full shelf of books that this one book can replace. So much information that I never knew or even thought to look up. Very well done and a pure treasure for anyone even remotely interested in this era.
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