
John David North (1934–2008)
Author of Stonehenge: Neolithic Man and the Cosmos
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- Birthdate
- 1934-05-19
- Date of death
- 2008-10-31
- Gender
- male
- Education
- Merton College, Oxford University (B.A.|1956|M.A.|1958)
London University (B.Sc.|1958)
University of Oxford (Ph.D|1963) - Occupations
- Historian of Science
- Organizations
- University of Groningen
- Awards and honors
- Orde van de Nederlandse Leeuw (Knight, 1999)
British Academy (Fellow, 1992)
Royal Astronomical Society (Fellow, 1959)
Academia Leopoldina (1992)
Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences (1985)
Royal Danish Academy (1985) (show all 8)
Académie internationale d'histoire des sciences (1967)
Medaille Alexandre Koyre (1989) - Relationships
- North, Marion (wife)
- Nationality
- UK
- Birthplace
- Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England, UK
- Place of death
- Oxford, Oxfordshire, England, UK
- Associated Place (for map)
- England, UK
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“Taste,” John North writes, “is often the enemy of understanding.” In this book, the historian tackles Hans Holbein’s lavish double portrait The Ambassadors, painted in 1533 in London. Besides burnishing Holbein’s reputation as a great artist, North leads the reader on a tour of the intellect and imagination of sixteenth-century Europe. His take on The Ambassadors is less tasteful, perhaps, than the consensus of art historians; at any rate, art historians have not embraced it. show more But North offers a much richer understanding of when, where, how, and probably why the picture was made — and that’s just the beginning.
There are no surviving documents about the creation of this picture, so there are no clues to Holbein’s intentions, except what the picture (shown here) contains. Two young courtiers flank a square table laden with books, musical instruments, and obscure devices for tracking the position of the sun. Where art critics have tended to explain away all this paraphernalia, or to lump it all together in a single metaphor, North engages with each object in turn, describing its function, how it was used, and how its position and configuration in the painting indirectly convey layers of information to the informed viewer. He builds a compelling case that Holbein worked with astronomer Nicolaus Kratzer in designing the complex image. The two young men in the picture probably also had a say in the design, and North nominates one or two others who may have played a lesser role.
As a historian of early modern science and philosophy, North cites an impressive range of medieval and sixteenth-century texts, but always with a critical awareness of how widely read and influential those texts actually were in Holbein’s time. In other words, he doesn’t go fishing for whatever will support a pet theory. His method in analyzing pictures is similar: Instead of pushing graphic elements into a likely pattern that appeals to a modern intellectual, North begins by asking what kind of pattern would be most meaningful to a sixteenth-century mind. He then asks whether that pattern seems to unite the elements of a picture in illuminating ways. It’s a far more rigorous and demanding method, but in this case, at least, it is very fruitful.
The book is in three parts: The first deals with the lives of Holbein, Kratzer, the two ambassadors, and the historical events that brought them together at the court of Henry VIII in 1533 (while Henry sought a divorce so he could marry Anne Boleyn). The second part describes the elements of the painting in detail, as well as techniques Holbein may have used to draft and paint it. The instruments on the table come in for a lot of attention, along with the main sight lines of the picture. The third part turns to interpretation, proposing (without insisting) that astrology and other elements of occult knowledge may have coëxisted with Christian symbols in the picture. As he proceeds, North is careful to distinguish symbols he believes are almost certainly designed into the picture (the hexagram, the horoscope square) from others that are merely possible, perhaps accidental symbols.
This revised (paperback) edition clearly benefits from conversations started by the first edition, and North carries his arguments a few steps further, often thanks to insights and challenges from other scholars. At times, especially in Part II, his tone turns argumentative, with excessive use of adverbs like certainly and unquestionably, but this fit soon passes. Some of the more abstruse parts of North’s argument are relegated to appendices, which I found well worth reading. The first appendix contains an elegant analysis of The Baptism of Christ by Piero della Francesca, based on Piero’s own advanced work in geometry. (Doubtful readers may want to turn to this appendix first, to see whether they find North’s writing rewarding enough to read the whole book, or just overtaxing.)
I believe The Ambassadors’ Secret has deepened my understanding of not just the era of Henry VIII, but of the way any intellectual culture tends to combine novel discoveries with venerable truths in sometimes contradictory ways. As North indicates concerning astrology, sometimes complexity and difficulty are enough to lend a subject authority. The heliocentric theory had made nonsense of the theory behind astrology (namely, the Ptolemaic universe of concentric spheres, in which divine influence descended from the outermost sphere down to earth, by means which one could conceivably read in the motions of the stars and planets). Nevertheless, even learned and skeptical men continued to pay respect to astrology, despite a minority of earnest critics. I found myself wondering, what are our present-day arcana? Probably economic doctrines. Haven’t I been taught that the market always tells the truth?
The Ambassadors’ Secret is a careful account of a journey of discovery, and a great workout for the reader’s mind. If you’ve assumed that the past was just a simplified version of the present, you may find this book overwhelming. It will not tell you what you already knew. This is a richer book than my review has indicated; it’s worth rereading and consulting (and the index, fortunately, is a good one). It’s the kind of history book that can inspire further inquiries. show less
There are no surviving documents about the creation of this picture, so there are no clues to Holbein’s intentions, except what the picture (shown here) contains. Two young courtiers flank a square table laden with books, musical instruments, and obscure devices for tracking the position of the sun. Where art critics have tended to explain away all this paraphernalia, or to lump it all together in a single metaphor, North engages with each object in turn, describing its function, how it was used, and how its position and configuration in the painting indirectly convey layers of information to the informed viewer. He builds a compelling case that Holbein worked with astronomer Nicolaus Kratzer in designing the complex image. The two young men in the picture probably also had a say in the design, and North nominates one or two others who may have played a lesser role.
As a historian of early modern science and philosophy, North cites an impressive range of medieval and sixteenth-century texts, but always with a critical awareness of how widely read and influential those texts actually were in Holbein’s time. In other words, he doesn’t go fishing for whatever will support a pet theory. His method in analyzing pictures is similar: Instead of pushing graphic elements into a likely pattern that appeals to a modern intellectual, North begins by asking what kind of pattern would be most meaningful to a sixteenth-century mind. He then asks whether that pattern seems to unite the elements of a picture in illuminating ways. It’s a far more rigorous and demanding method, but in this case, at least, it is very fruitful.
The book is in three parts: The first deals with the lives of Holbein, Kratzer, the two ambassadors, and the historical events that brought them together at the court of Henry VIII in 1533 (while Henry sought a divorce so he could marry Anne Boleyn). The second part describes the elements of the painting in detail, as well as techniques Holbein may have used to draft and paint it. The instruments on the table come in for a lot of attention, along with the main sight lines of the picture. The third part turns to interpretation, proposing (without insisting) that astrology and other elements of occult knowledge may have coëxisted with Christian symbols in the picture. As he proceeds, North is careful to distinguish symbols he believes are almost certainly designed into the picture (the hexagram, the horoscope square) from others that are merely possible, perhaps accidental symbols.
This revised (paperback) edition clearly benefits from conversations started by the first edition, and North carries his arguments a few steps further, often thanks to insights and challenges from other scholars. At times, especially in Part II, his tone turns argumentative, with excessive use of adverbs like certainly and unquestionably, but this fit soon passes. Some of the more abstruse parts of North’s argument are relegated to appendices, which I found well worth reading. The first appendix contains an elegant analysis of The Baptism of Christ by Piero della Francesca, based on Piero’s own advanced work in geometry. (Doubtful readers may want to turn to this appendix first, to see whether they find North’s writing rewarding enough to read the whole book, or just overtaxing.)
I believe The Ambassadors’ Secret has deepened my understanding of not just the era of Henry VIII, but of the way any intellectual culture tends to combine novel discoveries with venerable truths in sometimes contradictory ways. As North indicates concerning astrology, sometimes complexity and difficulty are enough to lend a subject authority. The heliocentric theory had made nonsense of the theory behind astrology (namely, the Ptolemaic universe of concentric spheres, in which divine influence descended from the outermost sphere down to earth, by means which one could conceivably read in the motions of the stars and planets). Nevertheless, even learned and skeptical men continued to pay respect to astrology, despite a minority of earnest critics. I found myself wondering, what are our present-day arcana? Probably economic doctrines. Haven’t I been taught that the market always tells the truth?
The Ambassadors’ Secret is a careful account of a journey of discovery, and a great workout for the reader’s mind. If you’ve assumed that the past was just a simplified version of the present, you may find this book overwhelming. It will not tell you what you already knew. This is a richer book than my review has indicated; it’s worth rereading and consulting (and the index, fortunately, is a good one). It’s the kind of history book that can inspire further inquiries. show less
Although I think I may have been the only person in my History of Astronomy class who felt this way, I thought this was an outstanding text. North is opinionated, but this is a massive and authoritative work. Sad that North is no longer here to create updates -- perhaps someone else will step up.
On a less sanguine note, whoever proofread this for the University of Chicago should be ... well, fired.
On a less sanguine note, whoever proofread this for the University of Chicago should be ... well, fired.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/nhw/555709.html
John North, who published the definitive edition of Richard of Wallingford's works thirty years ago, here attempts to give a more accessible account (at a cost of £15 rather than the £400 that the 1976 version will cost you).
I'm sorry to say that I don't think he has succeeded. The first half of the book, a biographical treatment of Richard and his times, just somehow doesn't sparkle; lots of detailed description, but I came away without show more really much of a feeling of context, or even of the internal chronology of the eight years of his time as abbot up to his early death (he was not yet 45).
In addition, North is very much an old school historian of science. He goes out of his way to reject two ideas that I wrote about while doing my M Phil - first, that the technology of the watermills so important to the monastery's finances might have had some relevance to the construction the clock (this on p 195 despite the evidence offered in his own footnote 98 on page 395) and second, that there was any economic motive whatsoever in trying to regulate time by building clocks (see pp 219-220). I don't claim ownership of (or even particular attachment to) either idea, but I think North's arguments against in both cases are poor, and it feels a bit as if he is taking an ineffective swing at the whole concept of sociology of knowledge.
There are some annoying slips in presentation as well, most of them minor, but one particularly tantalising - note 21 on p 387 refers to text on page 59, but the marker for note 21 is way back on page 34 and comes after a completely irrelevant paragraph; working out what is going on is rather reminiscent of North's own description of putting together Richard of Wallingford's plans for the clock from the much hacked-about surviving manuscript in the Bodleian.
Having said all that, most of the second half of the book provides a completely superb summary of the state of knowledge in medieval physics, tackling not just astronomy but also optics, theories of motion, and the intellectual legacy of Aristotle, and the transmission of learning from the Arab world via Al-Andalus and Sicily in as lucid a presentation as I have read. To be honest one would happily pay the cover price for a text book including just those chapters. If ever I go back to my medieval research I'll take the astronomy chapter as a starting point. show less
John North, who published the definitive edition of Richard of Wallingford's works thirty years ago, here attempts to give a more accessible account (at a cost of £15 rather than the £400 that the 1976 version will cost you).
I'm sorry to say that I don't think he has succeeded. The first half of the book, a biographical treatment of Richard and his times, just somehow doesn't sparkle; lots of detailed description, but I came away without show more really much of a feeling of context, or even of the internal chronology of the eight years of his time as abbot up to his early death (he was not yet 45).
In addition, North is very much an old school historian of science. He goes out of his way to reject two ideas that I wrote about while doing my M Phil - first, that the technology of the watermills so important to the monastery's finances might have had some relevance to the construction the clock (this on p 195 despite the evidence offered in his own footnote 98 on page 395) and second, that there was any economic motive whatsoever in trying to regulate time by building clocks (see pp 219-220). I don't claim ownership of (or even particular attachment to) either idea, but I think North's arguments against in both cases are poor, and it feels a bit as if he is taking an ineffective swing at the whole concept of sociology of knowledge.
There are some annoying slips in presentation as well, most of them minor, but one particularly tantalising - note 21 on p 387 refers to text on page 59, but the marker for note 21 is way back on page 34 and comes after a completely irrelevant paragraph; working out what is going on is rather reminiscent of North's own description of putting together Richard of Wallingford's plans for the clock from the much hacked-about surviving manuscript in the Bodleian.
Having said all that, most of the second half of the book provides a completely superb summary of the state of knowledge in medieval physics, tackling not just astronomy but also optics, theories of motion, and the intellectual legacy of Aristotle, and the transmission of learning from the Arab world via Al-Andalus and Sicily in as lucid a presentation as I have read. To be honest one would happily pay the cover price for a text book including just those chapters. If ever I go back to my medieval research I'll take the astronomy chapter as a starting point. show less
The first half of this book is great, a thorough explanation of the context of Holbein's painting. The second half, however, while being a presentation of the erudition of the author in Renaissance astrology and symbolism, left me feeling that there was all too much over-interpretation as far as the painting is concerned. In short, didn't quite buy all of it, and found the book rather tiresome towards the end – although I'm sure that others with a keener interest in the subject matter show more would disagree. In sum: good bits, tedious bits, and rather too long a book.
I am, however, even more annoyed by the fact that while the book naturally rests on an analysis of Holbein's painting, at least the edition of the book I have DOES NOT PROVIDE A PROPER IMAGE OF IT. F'rinstance, the crucifix in the upper left hand corner of the painting is not visible AT ALL in the book's reproduction of the painting. Oops. show less
I am, however, even more annoyed by the fact that while the book naturally rests on an analysis of Holbein's painting, at least the edition of the book I have DOES NOT PROVIDE A PROPER IMAGE OF IT. F'rinstance, the crucifix in the upper left hand corner of the painting is not visible AT ALL in the book's reproduction of the painting. Oops. show less
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