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How do I catalogue a book which contains 2 works

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1rdurie
Jul 27, 2011, 9:55 am

I am not sure if I have the nomenclature right there but this is my problem - I have a book called "Journals of the western isles" which contains 2 works by different authors: "A Journey to the western islands of Scotland" by Samuel Johnson and "Journal of a tour to the Hebrides" by James Boswell. Is it possible to catalogue this book and list the two titles and authors without getting some stupid author name which is a combination of their two names. Other people with the same book have ended up with a single double-barrelled author, entered it under one or the other or under a new author called Johnson and Boswell. Any suggestions gratefully received.

2r.orrison
Jul 27, 2011, 10:00 am

Enter it under one or the other, and enter the other author in the "Other Authors" field (that's what it's for).

3norabelle414
Jul 27, 2011, 10:04 am

Personally, I would catalog it under whichever author appears first on the cover, listing the second author as an "other author", and then make sure to combine it with other people's copies. Perhaps one day there will be a better solution.

4thorold
Jul 27, 2011, 10:13 am

For that particular work, there are so many editions containing both texts that it doesn't really matter whether you list it as Johnson or Boswell - it should combine itself with all the others without any problem.
See here: Journals of the western isles

5rdurie
Jul 27, 2011, 10:20 am

> 2

isn't that is for a single book with two authors, not one book which itself contains two completely separate works with distinct authors? thanks anyway

> 3

yes that would be one way of doing it, but extremely unsatisfactory. I am not sure of the "make sure to combine it with other people's copies - can I do this? I thought that happened automatically. Thanks for your reply.

I have for the moment entered it as two separate books, but I will test out using the 'other author' approach to see if it gives me what I want in terms of my catalogue.

6jjwilson61
Jul 27, 2011, 10:36 am

isn't that is for a single book with two authors,

Yes, but it's the only way to do it currently. It is wrong to put two authors into the Author field.

yes that would be one way of doing it, but extremely unsatisfactory

Each person has to define unsatisfactory for themselves. It is one book so entering it twice could be seen as extremely unsatisfactory to some people.

You could try what I do for omnibuses (which doesn't have the multiple author problem) which is to enter it as both the physical book and also as the two books it contains. The physical book goes into my Your Library collection while the two virtual books go into a different collection called Inclusions or something. That way my Your Library collection doesn't contain duplicates that aren't really duplicates and I get all the connections for the recommendations algorithm for both forms of the work.

7r.orrison
Jul 27, 2011, 10:37 am

If you want to list the book you have as a single entry in your library, the only correct way to list both authors is to put one in the Author field, and the other in the Other Authors field.

If you want to treat each book separately, you can of course do that -- make two entries in your library, each with the appropriate title and author, and perhaps with a comment saying they are contained in the combined book. If you do that, please make sure the entries don't have the ISBN that applies to the combined book. (Since that ISBN doesn't refer to the book as you've entered it.)

8paradoxosalpha
Edited: Jul 27, 2011, 11:20 am

> 6

That's not exactly an elegant solution, but it also helps in the dilemma of maintaining separate reviews of omnibus components, a difficulty with which I have struggled in my own ad hoc way:
http://www.librarything.com/work/174167/reviews/13320185
http://www.librarything.com/work/287922/reviews/63246188

9reading_fox
Jul 27, 2011, 11:58 am

#6 "and I get all the connections for the recommendations algorithm for both forms of the work"

I do almost exactly the same thing for the reverse reason - to remove all the unnecessary reccomendations caused by the algorthyms not recognising that I do already own that work, just in omnibus form.

#8 I've done that too.

10ringman
Jul 27, 2011, 1:16 pm

Where different parts of a book have been written by different authors, I normally set the "author role" to "Contributor" rather than "Author". If possible (not applicable in this case) I give the primary author role to an editor responsible for the whole, otherwise I pick the first listed author.

I also use an inclusions collection, to avoid recommendations,and to prevent repurchase.