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1bookwoman247
Here's the rules of the game:
1. All entries must be the title of a fictional book.
2. Take the latest valid entry on the post. Determine which vowel was used the most frequently in that previous post.
3. If there is a tie in which vowel was used the most frequently, take the vowel whose first occurrance comes earliest in the entry title.
(For example, if the last entry was "Black Order" by James Rollins, since A, O, and E equally occur once, in that order, and no vowel occurs more than once, you take the A because the A comes first in the title).
4. For the sake of this game, a "Y" is always a consonant, even if it makes the sound of a vowel (like in the word "spy").
5. All entries must contain at least 1 vowel.
6. The vowel that you came up with in steps 2 and/or 3 is the vowel you are forbidden from using in the next entry. Note that you are only forbidden from using it in the title. The Author's name may contain the forbidden vowel.
Rolandperkins played last with:
By Love Possessed by James Gould Cozznes
E
New play:
Skinny Dip by Carl Hiaasen
I
1. All entries must be the title of a fictional book.
2. Take the latest valid entry on the post. Determine which vowel was used the most frequently in that previous post.
3. If there is a tie in which vowel was used the most frequently, take the vowel whose first occurrance comes earliest in the entry title.
(For example, if the last entry was "Black Order" by James Rollins, since A, O, and E equally occur once, in that order, and no vowel occurs more than once, you take the A because the A comes first in the title).
4. For the sake of this game, a "Y" is always a consonant, even if it makes the sound of a vowel (like in the word "spy").
5. All entries must contain at least 1 vowel.
6. The vowel that you came up with in steps 2 and/or 3 is the vowel you are forbidden from using in the next entry. Note that you are only forbidden from using it in the title. The Author's name may contain the forbidden vowel.
Rolandperkins played last with:
By Love Possessed by James Gould Cozznes
E
New play:
Skinny Dip by Carl Hiaasen
I
2rolandperkins
John Brownʻs Body by Stephen Vincent Benet
5Schmerguls
651. To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee (read 8 May 1961) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1961)
Vowel to be omitted: I
Vowel to be omitted: I
12Schmerguls
983. The Reivers A Reminiscence, by William Faulkner (read 30 Nov 1968) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1963)
Vowel to be omitted: E
Vowel to be omitted: E
13bookwoman247
#10 should have been O as the letter to avoid. I'll play avoiding O.
The Australian Pen Pal by Michelle Linn-Gust
A
The Australian Pen Pal by Michelle Linn-Gust
A
15rolandperkins
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16rolandperkins
Quentin Durward y Walter Scott
U
U
19Schmerguls
#13 says O is the vowel which should have been avoided in #10 but #10 has four e's in the title and four o's in the title so since the first e comes before the first o the author of #10 was correct to indicate E was the vowel to be avoided. # 18 correctly avoids E so I am playing on #18:
3842. The Known World, by Edward P. Jones (read 1 Jan 2004) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 2004) (National Book Critics Circle fiction award for 2003)
Vowel to be avoided: O
3842. The Known World, by Edward P. Jones (read 1 Jan 2004) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 2004) (National Book Critics Circle fiction award for 2003)
Vowel to be avoided: O
22rolandperkins
On 13, 19.
Thanks Schmerguls youʻre right that it was E, not O.
Bookwoman, (13) I almost said "O" on my first count of letters, but then I remembered that the E of "the" does count, so it was a tie -- with E
having been mentioned before O.
Thanks Schmerguls youʻre right that it was E, not O.
Bookwoman, (13) I almost said "O" on my first count of letters, but then I remembered that the E of "the" does count, so it was a tie -- with E
having been mentioned before O.
24Schmerguls
Roland, is #21 fiction??
2677. Paris Trout, by Pete Dexter (read 20 Nov 1994) (National Book award fiction prize in 1988)
Vowel to be avoided: A
2677. Paris Trout, by Pete Dexter (read 20 Nov 1994) (National Book award fiction prize in 1988)
Vowel to be avoided: A
25bookwoman247
Oy! Sorry about that! I know that "e" in "the" counts, but I probably just didn't even notice the word "the"!
True Grit by Charles Portis
U
True Grit by Charles Portis
U
27rolandperkins
". . .Is 21 fiction?"
Definitely NOT! Sorry, I forgot Rule 1 (in #1 of 10/20) again.
Iʻve been forgetting which games it is that are required to be fiction, (most can be fic. or non-fic.) and I also sometimes forget to check the rules.
Definitely NOT! Sorry, I forgot Rule 1 (in #1 of 10/20) again.
Iʻve been forgetting which games it is that are required to be fiction, (most can be fic. or non-fic.) and I also sometimes forget to check the rules.
28bookwoman247
Uh oh! I think we go back to 20? Yikes this is getting tangled!
30bookwoman247
Thanks, Roland That's what I was going to play on, but it was just so tangled, and I mistaken before, so I wasnt' 100% sure.
High Fidelity by Nick Hornby
Forbidden letter: I
High Fidelity by Nick Hornby
Forbidden letter: I
31rolandperkins
Death of a Salesman
by Arthur Miller
A
You're welcome, bookwoman (30); I don't really think that
a mistake in 21 (mine)
cancels 22-26, but that's
the way we've been playing --with the understandinig that the
whistle should be blown, as it was now, in a reasonable time --
not after dozens of entries.
by Arthur Miller
A
You're welcome, bookwoman (30); I don't really think that
a mistake in 21 (mine)
cancels 22-26, but that's
the way we've been playing --with the understandinig that the
whistle should be blown, as it was now, in a reasonable time --
not after dozens of entries.
33Schmerguls
One of the assets of this game is that if after the invalid entry someone has played a title omitting the vowel which should have been omtted by the invalid entry, that cures it. So #26 in effect played on #20 and on #25. I am playing on #32:
4712. tinkers, by Paul Harding (read 25 May 2010) (Pulitzer fiction prize in 2010)
Vowel to be omitted: I
4712. tinkers, by Paul Harding (read 25 May 2010) (Pulitzer fiction prize in 2010)
Vowel to be omitted: I
37rolandperkins
Natural by Leialoha Apo Pekrins
A
A
38jacqueline065
Burned by Ellen Hopkins
U
U
39Schmerguls
# 35 is invalid, since the title posted has two e's or one for sure. But #37 has no e's so that cures the error in #35.
Playing on #38:
554. A Bell for Adano by John Hersey (read 16 Sep 1958) (Pulitzer fiction prize for 1945)
Vowel to be avoided: A
Playing on #38:
554. A Bell for Adano by John Hersey (read 16 Sep 1958) (Pulitzer fiction prize for 1945)
Vowel to be avoided: A
44rolandperkins
Sixth Sense by Ramona Stewart
E
E
48rolandperkins
Dona Barbara* by Romulo Gallegos
* the n of "Dona" is supposed to have a tilde,
which I can't make on this ckeyboard.
* the n of "Dona" is supposed to have a tilde,
which I can't make on this ckeyboard.
49jacqueline065
Eggs by Jerry Spinelli
51rolandperkins
The Masters by C.P. Snow
E
E
61rolandperkins
Bernard Carr* by James T. Farrell
A
*There was a law suit about this title, and part of the settlement
was the changing of its former title "Bernard Clare" to
Bernard Carr. I preferred using "Carr" because "Clare"
would produce the all too recurrent "Forbidden Letter: E".
A
*There was a law suit about this title, and part of the settlement
was the changing of its former title "Bernard Clare" to
Bernard Carr. I preferred using "Carr" because "Clare"
would produce the all too recurrent "Forbidden Letter: E".
65Schmerguls
I don't think #57 and #59 are fiction, but if I am wrong about that I am playing not only on #56 (avoid E) but also on #64 (avoid I):
4212. Song of Solomon, by Toni Morrison (read 21 Sep 2006) (National Book Critics Circle fiction award for 1977)
I used Guard of Honor previously so I am changinig it, but the same vowel to be avoided so #66 is right
Vowel to be avoid in a fictional title: O
4212. Song of Solomon, by Toni Morrison (read 21 Sep 2006) (National Book Critics Circle fiction award for 1977)
I used Guard of Honor previously so I am changinig it, but the same vowel to be avoided so #66 is right
Vowel to be avoid in a fictional title: O
73rolandperkins
Crime and Punishment / Prestuplenye i Nakazanye
by Fedor Dostoevskii
I (taking the forbidden letter only from the English title)
by Fedor Dostoevskii
I (taking the forbidden letter only from the English title)
74jacqueline065
Code Orange by Caroline B. Cooney
82Schmerguls
#78 does not avoid A, but #79 does. So I am playing on #81:
2896. World's Fair, by E. L. Doctorow (read 13 Aug 1996) (National Book Award fiction prize in 1986)
Vowel to be avoided in a fictional title: O
2896. World's Fair, by E. L. Doctorow (read 13 Aug 1996) (National Book Award fiction prize in 1986)
Vowel to be avoided in a fictional title: O
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108rolandperkins
Paradise Regained by John Milton
A
A
110Schmerguls
In #92 o comes before i so it seems to me that o, not i, is the vowel to be avoided. #95 does avoid o
Roland, I don't think Glory Road is fiction (#99) but #101 avoids e so I will play on #109:
280. So Big, by Edna Ferber (read 2 Sept 1946) (Pulitzer Fiction prize for 1925)
Vowel to be avoided in a fictional title: O
Roland, I don't think Glory Road is fiction (#99) but #101 avoids e so I will play on #109:
280. So Big, by Edna Ferber (read 2 Sept 1946) (Pulitzer Fiction prize for 1925)
Vowel to be avoided in a fictional title: O
121Schmerguls
2386. Rabbit Is Rich by John Updike (read 27 May 1991) (Pulitzer fiction prize for 1982) (National Book Award fiction prize for 1982) (National Book Critics Circle fiction award for 1981)
Oops, Roland used it as recently as Oct 16. Let's try:
270. Valiant Dust, by Percival Christopher Wren (read 21 Jun 1946)
Vowel to be avoided in a fictional title: A
Oops, Roland used it as recently as Oct 16. Let's try:
270. Valiant Dust, by Percival Christopher Wren (read 21 Jun 1946)
Vowel to be avoided in a fictional title: A
129Schmerguls
273. Soldiers of Misfortune The Story of Otho Belleme, by Percival Christopher Wren (read 7 Aug 1946)
Avoid O
Avoid O
132lnkvisitor
The Card by Arnold Bennett
E
E
138Schmerguls
In #133 the vowel to be avoided was O, since the first of the three O's came before the first E. But #134 did avoid O as welll as E, so no problem.
W is not a vowel. The vowel to avoided is E (but I also avoid W!
244. Scoop, by Evelyn Waugh (read 9 Mar 1946)
Avoid O
W is not a vowel. The vowel to avoided is E (but I also avoid W!
244. Scoop, by Evelyn Waugh (read 9 Mar 1946)
Avoid O
147bookwoman247
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149lnkvisitor
#148 played on #147 which was subsequently/simultaneously deleted.
So now playing on #146
The Ship by C. S. Forester
I
So now playing on #146
The Ship by C. S. Forester
I
151bookwoman247
Oops! Sorry! I deleted it, because it contained an "O". I was actually playing on 145. but 146 beat me to it.
Carry on playing on 150, forbidden letter A.
*What the heck, we have two responses numbered 150? Well, carry on playing on forbidden letter A, nonetheless.
Carry on playing on 150, forbidden letter A.
*What the heck, we have two responses numbered 150? Well, carry on playing on forbidden letter A, nonetheless.
153lnkvisitor
( >151 bookwoman247: "... two responses numbered 150?" I've noticed that it looks like you're going to get duplicate numbering when editing. Then it seems to sort itself out.)
A Singular Man by J. P. Donleavy
A
A Singular Man by J. P. Donleavy
A
155rolandperkins
" Two responses numbered 150. . ." (151, 153)
I've noticed that, in mentioning a previous post, it often doesn't have the number I was expecting from the regular sequence, (It's one higher or one lower) so
I guess two could temporarily have the same number. Either I'm terrible at recording the intended number, or they do change during
a discusson of them like this.
I've noticed that, in mentioning a previous post, it often doesn't have the number I was expecting from the regular sequence, (It's one higher or one lower) so
I guess two could temporarily have the same number. Either I'm terrible at recording the intended number, or they do change during
a discusson of them like this.
156rolandperkins
The Mayor of Castro Street: The Life and Times of Harvey Milk
by Randy Shilts
by Randy Shilts
157jacqueline065
RP... #156 has the fobidden letter I in it.
158lnkvisitor
#157: Would RP have got away with #156 if he hadn't included the sub-title. I have to admit that I have either ignored or included sub-titles wherever necessary.
159rolandperkins
". . .has the forbidden letter I..." (158 on 156)
Yes, sorry; AQuite a shock when I scrolled up to the top of this thread, and found that this was the "Vanna. . ." thread. I was playing by "Silly Game..." rules, and didn't give forbidden letters a thought.
Yes, sorry; AQuite a shock when I scrolled up to the top of this thread, and found that this was the "Vanna. . ." thread. I was playing by "Silly Game..." rules, and didn't give forbidden letters a thought.
173rolandperkins
Hooray for Yiddish by Leo Rosten
174Schmerguls
#171 did not avoid E, Roland. But #173 did.
Avoiding O:
983. The Reivers A Reminiscence, by William Faulkner (read 30 Nov 1968) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1963)
Vowel to be avoided: E
Avoiding O:
983. The Reivers A Reminiscence, by William Faulkner (read 30 Nov 1968) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1963)
Vowel to be avoided: E
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183rolandperkins
Lord Mountdrago by W. Somerset Maugham
O
O
185Schmerguls
375. The Ordeal of Richard Feveral A History of a Father and Son, by George Meredith (read 30 Jul 1950)
Vowel to be avoided: A
Vowel to be avoided: A
195lnkvisitor
looks like #192 has the forbidden E
196jacqueline065
True! .... but we could ignore 192/193 and and we would be back on track!
198Schmerguls
I don't think #186 is fiction, but #194 avoids A so that cures that.
#!92 does have the forbidden E, Roland, but #194 does not, so I am playing on #197:
3166. Charming Billy, by Alice McDermott (read 26 Feb 1999) (National Book Award fiction prize in 1998)
Vowel to be avoided in a fiction title: I
#!92 does have the forbidden E, Roland, but #194 does not, so I am playing on #197:
3166. Charming Billy, by Alice McDermott (read 26 Feb 1999) (National Book Award fiction prize in 1998)
Vowel to be avoided in a fiction title: I
199lnkvisitor
(>198 Schmerguls: you are correct, #186 is not fiction, I forgot the rule)
A Fox Under My Cloak by Henry Williamson
Avoid: A
A Fox Under My Cloak by Henry Williamson
Avoid: A
204rolandperkins
The Blood of the Volsungs by Thomas Mann
O
O
207rolandperkins
Arrowsmith by Sinclair Lewis
A
A
220rolandperkins
Roughing it by Mark Twain
I
I
225Schmerguls
3225. Spartina, by John Casey (read 3 Aug 1999) (National Book Award fiction prize in 1989)
Vowel to avoid: A
Vowel to avoid: A
230jacqueline065
The Edge of Midnight by Beverly Jenkins
E
WooHoo! I was able to use same title in 3 different games simultaneously. :)
E
WooHoo! I was able to use same title in 3 different games simultaneously. :)
237lnkvisitor
>236 bookwoman247:: Shouldn't "O" be the forbidden letter (3 x "O", 2 x "I") ?
Super-Cannes by J. G. Ballard
E
Super-Cannes by J. G. Ballard
E
238bookwoman247
#237 You're absolutely right! I obviously wasn't fully awake yet when I posted.
Good catch. Thanks! I changed it. You did a great job of avoiding both "I' and "O".
Good catch. Thanks! I changed it. You did a great job of avoiding both "I' and "O".
243Schmerguls
Is #235 fiction? If not, #242 cures the non-response to #235,
21. Sandy Joe by Mary T. Waggaman (read in 1939)
Vowel to avoid: A
21. Sandy Joe by Mary T. Waggaman (read in 1939)
Vowel to avoid: A
247Schmerguls
Roland, did Cicero write fiction? If not, #246 does avoid I
4342. Mrs. Ted Bliss, by Stanley Elkin (read 18 July 2007) (National Book Critics Circle fiction award for 1995)
Avoid: E
4342. Mrs. Ted Bliss, by Stanley Elkin (read 18 July 2007) (National Book Critics Circle fiction award for 1995)
Avoid: E
266rolandperkins
Sovereignty in Hawaii: From the Earliest times to 2000
by Roland F. Perkins
by Roland F. Perkins
268rolandperkins
on 266, 267:
Oh, sorry. >Avoid I (6 I s and 5 E s)
269Schmerguls
Roland, is #266 fiction? If not, this entry also avoids U as requried by #265
1523. The Year of the French A Novel by Thomas Flanagan (read 28 June 1979) (National Book Critics Circle fiction award for 1979)
Vowel to avoid: E
1523. The Year of the French A Novel by Thomas Flanagan (read 28 June 1979) (National Book Critics Circle fiction award for 1979)
Vowel to avoid: E
272rolandperkins
To Schmerguls (247)
Of course my "Sovereignty..." and Ciceroʻs De natura Deorum
are not fiction, not intentionally anyway. Itʻs just that again I forgot the fictional rule. In fact around that time I was just remembering that there is one thread that requires a fiction title, but I couldnʻt remember which one. Sorry.
Of course my "Sovereignty..." and Ciceroʻs De natura Deorum
are not fiction, not intentionally anyway. Itʻs just that again I forgot the fictional rule. In fact around that time I was just remembering that there is one thread that requires a fiction title, but I couldnʻt remember which one. Sorry.
273rolandperkins
(Playng on 271)
Electra by* Sophocles
*also a (less highly regarded) version by Euripides
Electra by* Sophocles
*also a (less highly regarded) version by Euripides
275Schmerguls
2904. them, by Joyce Carol Oates (read 1 Sep 1996) (National Book Award fiction prize for 1970)
Vowel to be avoided: E
Vowel to be avoided: E
287Schmerguls
1642. Humboldt's Gift, by Saul Bellow (read 8 July 1981) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1976)
Vowel to avoid in fiction title: U
Vowel to avoid in fiction title: U
293Schmerguls
Roland, #289 includes an e but #291 does not so I will play on #292:
2891. And Then There Were None, by Agatha Christie (read 27 Jul 1996)
(Actually, I also read most of it in the Saturday Evening Post in 1939)
Omit E
2891. And Then There Were None, by Agatha Christie (read 27 Jul 1996)
(Actually, I also read most of it in the Saturday Evening Post in 1939)
Omit E
299rolandperkins
"289 (thE Victim) includes an E . . ." (293)
Yes, I still tend to forget the "Articles do count" rule in this game (and in no other, I think). All that came to mind when I thought
of The Victim was "perfect E-less title: I (2x) is the only vowel!"
Yes, I still tend to forget the "Articles do count" rule in this game (and in no other, I think). All that came to mind when I thought
of The Victim was "perfect E-less title: I (2x) is the only vowel!"
314Schmerguls
Roland, #313 isn't fiction but I will play on #312 and so #313 is played on as well:
4646. Murder at the Vicarage A Miss Marple Mystery, by Agatha Christie (read 29 Nov 2009)
Vowel to avoid in a fictional title: E
4646. Murder at the Vicarage A Miss Marple Mystery, by Agatha Christie (read 29 Nov 2009)
Vowel to avoid in a fictional title: E
320lnkvisitor
But the vowel to avoid was 'O', and 'The Bellarosa Connection' has three of them.
321rolandperkins
On 317 -- 320 ". . .the Bellarosa Connection has three (O s)" (320)
Sorry, I was playing on 317 (Forbidden letter: I). 318 wasnʻt on the screen yet.
But I shouldnʻt have played on 317, because it was my own.
At this point, Iʻd say 318 is the one to play on.
Sorry, I was playing on 317 (Forbidden letter: I). 318 wasnʻt on the screen yet.
But I shouldnʻt have played on 317, because it was my own.
At this point, Iʻd say 318 is the one to play on.
322rolandperkins
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329Schmerguls
I doubt that #325 is fiction, so I will play on #324, avoiding E, and on #328, avoiding A (a challenging thing to do):
1642. Humboldt's Gift, by Saul Bellow (read 8 July 1981) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1976)
Vowel to be avoided in fictional title: U
1642. Humboldt's Gift, by Saul Bellow (read 8 July 1981) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1976)
Vowel to be avoided in fictional title: U
330lnkvisitor
although #325 is not fiction, #326 avoided E (as well a A) and so played correctly on #324. Therefore #326 to #328 were OK (and so of course was #329).
The Onion Eaters by J. P. Donleavy
E
The Onion Eaters by J. P. Donleavy
E
333rolandperkins
On 325 -- 330:
If itʻs any help, I can say 325 definitely is NOT fiction.
It was my mistake, forgetting the "Fiction Only rule.
I agree that 326 plays correctly on 324.
If itʻs any help, I can say 325 definitely is NOT fiction.
It was my mistake, forgetting the "Fiction Only rule.
I agree that 326 plays correctly on 324.
334rolandperkins
Assuming 332 is the ne to play on at this point
(Forbidden letter I):
The Lost Men by Benedict Thielen
E
(Forbidden letter I):
The Lost Men by Benedict Thielen
E
336Schmerguls
Good point, Inkvisitor, re #325 and #324--I admit I did not check for #326 avoiding what #324 required be avoided. I should have.
985. The Fixer, by Bernard Malamud (read 5 Dec 1968) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1967) (National Book Award fiction prize for 1967)
Vowel to be avoided in a fictional title: E
985. The Fixer, by Bernard Malamud (read 5 Dec 1968) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1967) (National Book Award fiction prize for 1967)
Vowel to be avoided in a fictional title: E
342Schmerguls
2242. The Power of the Dog, by Thomas Savage (read 25 Oct 1989)
(This book blew me away)
Vowel to avoid in a fictional title: E
(This book blew me away)
Vowel to avoid in a fictional title: E
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352Schmerguls
playing on #350 since #351 does not avoid O:
2628. The Shipping News, by E. Annie Proulx (read 19 Jul 1994) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1994) (National Book Award fiction prize in 1993)
Vowel to avoid in a fictional title: E
2628. The Shipping News, by E. Annie Proulx (read 19 Jul 1994) (Pulitzer Fiction prize in 1994) (National Book Award fiction prize in 1993)
Vowel to avoid in a fictional title: E
353rolandperkins
Satyricon* by Petronius Arbiter
A
*One of the few Greco Roman ancient titles that is really
(intentionally) fictional. I am trying (unsuccessfully?) to delete 351 which managed to violate 2 rules; I cant imagine why I used a title that has 2 of the forbidden letter in it.
A
*One of the few Greco Roman ancient titles that is really
(intentionally) fictional. I am trying (unsuccessfully?) to delete 351 which managed to violate 2 rules; I cant imagine why I used a title that has 2 of the forbidden letter in it.
357rolandperkins
Peregrine Pickle by Tobias Smollett
E
E
371Schmerguls
224. Avalanche a novel by Kay Boyle (read 27 Dec 1945)
In #363 the vowel to avoid was E rather than I, and #364 did avoid it as well as I
Vowel to avoid: A
In #363 the vowel to avoid was E rather than I, and #364 did avoid it as well as I
Vowel to avoid: A
387Schmerguls
Roland, I don't think Marx intended Das Kapital to be considered fiction, but maybe it can pass as such?
#375 did not avoid E as requried, but #377 did. And #382 did not avoid E but the "fictional" #383 did
Playing on #387:
706. Antic Hay, by Aldous Huxley (read 25 Aug 1962)
Vowel to avoid in a fictional title: A
#375 did not avoid E as requried, but #377 did. And #382 did not avoid E but the "fictional" #383 did
Playing on #387:
706. Antic Hay, by Aldous Huxley (read 25 Aug 1962)
Vowel to avoid in a fictional title: A
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