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Here's your challenge for February 2013...
This challenge should have you scurrying off to your book shelves. It’s to read book with its last numbered page to include a "7"
Any book with 700 to 799 pages will work. Ha! Seriously though, so will books with 173 or 207 pages.
1. Don’t pay attention to the contents of the page. Only pay attention to the numbered sequence of the pages.
2. Disregard Roman numerals or any different or separate numbering system attached to the end of the book.
3. Use the last consecutive number that you see at the end of your book.
4. Don't make up numbers if they're not there!
5. Matching books can be used at any time.
6. E-books may be used *only* if page numbers do not change when changing font size.
List your books like this:
*Title (217) – Author - Userid
Quick! Now run off to your bookshelves to see which ones qualify for this challenge.
Most of all, have fun!
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Other Fun Stuff (not part of the TIOLI challenge):
1. The February 2013 TIOLI Meter - Optional page on which you may track your TIOLI reading. FYI: This is not meant to be competitive - only fun!
2. Morphidae's List of Previous TIOLI Challenges - You may use this reference (Do a control-F scan) to avoid repeating a previous challenge. If your idea is similar to a previous challenge, just make it unique by adding a new "twist" to it. (Updated 01/22/13)
Simple directions for posting to the wiki can be found at the bottom of each month's wiki page.
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Here's your challenge for February 2013...
This challenge should have you scurrying off to your book shelves. It’s to read book with its last numbered page to include a "7"
Any book with 700 to 799 pages will work. Ha! Seriously though, so will books with 173 or 207 pages.
1. Don’t pay attention to the contents of the page. Only pay attention to the numbered sequence of the pages.
2. Disregard Roman numerals or any different or separate numbering system attached to the end of the book.
3. Use the last consecutive number that you see at the end of your book.
4. Don't make up numbers if they're not there!
5. Matching books can be used at any time.
6. E-books may be used *only* if page numbers do not change when changing font size.
List your books like this:
*Title (217) – Author - Userid
Quick! Now run off to your bookshelves to see which ones qualify for this challenge.
Most of all, have fun!
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Other Fun Stuff (not part of the TIOLI challenge):
1. The February 2013 TIOLI Meter - Optional page on which you may track your TIOLI reading. FYI: This is not meant to be competitive - only fun!
2. Morphidae's List of Previous TIOLI Challenges - You may use this reference (Do a control-F scan) to avoid repeating a previous challenge. If your idea is similar to a previous challenge, just make it unique by adding a new "twist" to it. (Updated 01/22/13)
2SqueakyChu
Wiki Index
Challenges #1-6
1. Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7" - msg #1
2. Read a historical-fiction or non-fiction book about American History - msg #3
3. Read a book with a school subject in the title - msg #6
4. Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title - msg #4
5. Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded) - msg #8
6. Read and review an unread book you received through ER or MG - msg #7 - thread
Challenges #7-12
7. Read a book with an arthropod in the title or the author's name - msg #12
8. Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington" - msg #11
9. Read a book whose author shares their last name with a movie star/entertainer - msg #14
10. Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (not your own) - msg #15
11. Read a book that contains recipes or has the word "Recipe" in the title - msg #18
12. Read a book whose subject, title or author's name is tied to the great classical civilizations of ancient Egypt, Greece or Rome - msg #21
Challenges #13-18
13. Read a non-fiction book about a U.S. President that only deals with events that happened before or after his time in office - msg #19
14. Read a book with a vacation type of structure in the title - msg #22
15. Read a book wherein one of the major characters has the same first name as you - msg #36
16. Read a work of 20th/21st century Central or Eastern European literature - msg #28
17. Read a book that either won, or was nominated for, the Dilys Award - msg #29
18. Read a Family Saga - msg #35
Challenge #19-24
19. Read a book mentioned in a book you read in January - msg #44
20. Read a book whose author is called "of" somewhere or something - msg #56
21. Read a book with a Valentine's Day related cover - msg #62
22. Read a book mentioned in the LT "Top 5 of 2012" thread - msg #73
23. Read a book about a female monarch whose right to rule came from birth, not marriage - msg # 77
24. Read a book about music or musicians - msg #80
Challenge #25
25. Read a book where an animal figures prominently in the plot
Please hold all new challenges until the March, 2013, wiki goes up. Thank you!
Challenges #1-6
1. Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7" - msg #1
2. Read a historical-fiction or non-fiction book about American History - msg #3
3. Read a book with a school subject in the title - msg #6
4. Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title - msg #4
5. Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded) - msg #8
6. Read and review an unread book you received through ER or MG - msg #7 - thread
Challenges #7-12
7. Read a book with an arthropod in the title or the author's name - msg #12
8. Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington" - msg #11
9. Read a book whose author shares their last name with a movie star/entertainer - msg #14
10. Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (not your own) - msg #15
11. Read a book that contains recipes or has the word "Recipe" in the title - msg #18
12. Read a book whose subject, title or author's name is tied to the great classical civilizations of ancient Egypt, Greece or Rome - msg #21
Challenges #13-18
13. Read a non-fiction book about a U.S. President that only deals with events that happened before or after his time in office - msg #19
14. Read a book with a vacation type of structure in the title - msg #22
15. Read a book wherein one of the major characters has the same first name as you - msg #36
16. Read a work of 20th/21st century Central or Eastern European literature - msg #28
17. Read a book that either won, or was nominated for, the Dilys Award - msg #29
18. Read a Family Saga - msg #35
Challenge #19-24
19. Read a book mentioned in a book you read in January - msg #44
20. Read a book whose author is called "of" somewhere or something - msg #56
21. Read a book with a Valentine's Day related cover - msg #62
22. Read a book mentioned in the LT "Top 5 of 2012" thread - msg #73
23. Read a book about a female monarch whose right to rule came from birth, not marriage - msg # 77
24. Read a book about music or musicians - msg #80
Challenge #25
25. Read a book where an animal figures prominently in the plot
Please hold all new challenges until the March, 2013, wiki goes up. Thank you!
3countrylife
Challenge #2: AMERICAN HISTORY
For many decades in the United States, February was American History Month. It is still commemorated as such by many states. For this challenge: Read a historical-fiction or non-fiction book about any aspect of American History. Note the subject.
Examples:
Black Duck - Janet Taylor Lisle (prohibition)
Cast Two Shadows - Ann Rinaldi (American Revolution)
Effigy by Alissa York (Mountain Meadows massacre) {and Giller nominee, for those of you who are counting}
Honey in the Horn - H.L. Davis (westward expansion) {and Pulitzer winner}
The March - E.L. Doctorow (American Civil War)
Rodzina - Karen Cushman (orphan trains)
For many decades in the United States, February was American History Month. It is still commemorated as such by many states. For this challenge: Read a historical-fiction or non-fiction book about any aspect of American History. Note the subject.
Examples:
Black Duck - Janet Taylor Lisle (prohibition)
Cast Two Shadows - Ann Rinaldi (American Revolution)
Effigy by Alissa York (Mountain Meadows massacre) {and Giller nominee, for those of you who are counting}
Honey in the Horn - H.L. Davis (westward expansion) {and Pulitzer winner}
The March - E.L. Doctorow (American Civil War)
Rodzina - Karen Cushman (orphan trains)
4Dejah_Thoris
Since it’s Fantasy February….
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Challenge #4: Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title
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Back in 2011, the book publisher Tor held a readers’ poll for the best Science Fiction and Fantasy books published between 2000 and 2010. Someone (clearly with too much time on their hands) blogged on the site about the most common words appearing in the eligible titles. The amusing blog entry and even funnier associated comments can be found here.
There were 34 words that appeared in 10 or more titles:
Read a book of any genre with one or more of these words or its plural (including those with spelling changes: city/cities, man/men, wolf/wolves) in the title. Either the short or long version of the title is acceptable. Embedded words are permitted. Please bold the word.
Here are the words in alphabetical order:
black, blood, blue, book, city, dark, dead, demon, dragon, dream, fire, gate, god, gold, heart, hunt, king, knight, light, last, lord, magic, man, moon, night, red, shadow, star, storm, sword, time, war, wolf, world
ETA: Sorry I don't seem to be able to re-size the graphic - I tried!
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Challenge #4: Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title
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Back in 2011, the book publisher Tor held a readers’ poll for the best Science Fiction and Fantasy books published between 2000 and 2010. Someone (clearly with too much time on their hands) blogged on the site about the most common words appearing in the eligible titles. The amusing blog entry and even funnier associated comments can be found here.
There were 34 words that appeared in 10 or more titles:
Read a book of any genre with one or more of these words or its plural (including those with spelling changes: city/cities, man/men, wolf/wolves) in the title. Either the short or long version of the title is acceptable. Embedded words are permitted. Please bold the word.
Here are the words in alphabetical order:
black, blood, blue, book, city, dark, dead, demon, dragon, dream, fire, gate, god, gold, heart, hunt, king, knight, light, last, lord, magic, man, moon, night, red, shadow, star, storm, sword, time, war, wolf, world
ETA: Sorry I don't seem to be able to re-size the graphic - I tried!
5SqueakyChu
Don't resize the graphic. I love it that size. It's striking!
6raidergirl3
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Challenge #3: Read a book with a school subject in the title
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Math, science, history, art, music, chemistry, physics, etc. You were there in school, you know the subjects. Fiction or non-fiction
some ideas:
The True History of the Kelly Gang
The Music of Pythagorus
Special Topics in Calamity Physics
Mistress of the Art of Death
Challenge #3: Read a book with a school subject in the title
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Math, science, history, art, music, chemistry, physics, etc. You were there in school, you know the subjects. Fiction or non-fiction
some ideas:
The True History of the Kelly Gang
The Music of Pythagorus
Special Topics in Calamity Physics
Mistress of the Art of Death
7fuzzi
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Challenge #6: Read and review an unread book you received through ER or MG
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I can't be the only one who has received books through Early Reviewers or Member Giveaways that I still have not read after months...or longer!
Addendum: I have started a discussion thread here:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/149162#
Challenge #6: Read and review an unread book you received through ER or MG
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I can't be the only one who has received books through Early Reviewers or Member Giveaways that I still have not read after months...or longer!
Addendum: I have started a discussion thread here:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/149162#
8cyderry
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Challenge #5:Missing Vowel Challenge:
Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded)
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I don't know why but this one just popped into my head.
Challenge #5:Missing Vowel Challenge:
Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded)
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I don't know why but this one just popped into my head.
10raidergirl3
>7 fuzzi: no, you are not the only one!
11AnneDC
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Challenge #8 : A rolling challenge for Washington's Birthday (February 22) Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington". (A first word "A" or "The" can be either ignored or used as an A or T, as you prefer.)
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W Washington: A Life - Ron Chernow
A A Game of Thrones - George Martin
S The Siege - Helen Dunmore
H Home - Marilynne Robinson
You can add up to two consecutive titles, but not three in a row--someone else must add a title.
Challenge #8 : A rolling challenge for Washington's Birthday (February 22) Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington". (A first word "A" or "The" can be either ignored or used as an A or T, as you prefer.)
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W Washington: A Life - Ron Chernow
A A Game of Thrones - George Martin
S The Siege - Helen Dunmore
H Home - Marilynne Robinson
You can add up to two consecutive titles, but not three in a row--someone else must add a title.
12lyzard
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Challenge #7: Read a book that has an arthropod in the title or the author's name.
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Arthropods are invertebrates with an exoskeleton, a segmented body and jointed legs. The term includes all insects, spiders, scorpions, millipedes and centipedes, crustaceans and other marine creatures such as horseshoe crabs and sea spiders.
Both specific names and general terms are allowed - i.e. both "monarch" and "butterfly". So are embedded words, so you might want to look out for ants and lice. Generic terms like "bug" are also allowed.
Challenge #7: Read a book that has an arthropod in the title or the author's name.
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Arthropods are invertebrates with an exoskeleton, a segmented body and jointed legs. The term includes all insects, spiders, scorpions, millipedes and centipedes, crustaceans and other marine creatures such as horseshoe crabs and sea spiders.
Both specific names and general terms are allowed - i.e. both "monarch" and "butterfly". So are embedded words, so you might want to look out for ants and lice. Generic terms like "bug" are also allowed.
13Dejah_Thoris
It's going to be fun fitting books in this month! So many choices already!
14DeltaQueen50
In honor of the Academy Awards that will be bestowed this month:
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Challenge 9: Read a book whose author shares their last name with a movie star/entertainer.
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(eg) I plan to read The Witch Doctor's Wife by Tamar Myers who has the same last name as Mike Myers.
Please note: The spelling of the names must be identical, and when listing on the Wiki, please identify the movie star.
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Challenge 9: Read a book whose author shares their last name with a movie star/entertainer.
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(eg) I plan to read The Witch Doctor's Wife by Tamar Myers who has the same last name as Mike Myers.
Please note: The spelling of the names must be identical, and when listing on the Wiki, please identify the movie star.
15bell7
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Challenge #10: Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (but not your own)
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So other than specifying that your friend has to be someone you've met in person, I'm pretty flexible with this challenge. I think it's pretty self-explanatory otherwise, but if any questions come up let me know.
I'm planning on reading at least one title by a Brazilian author for the exchange student that was living with us last semester (he went home last week).
Edited to add - I will allow matched reads, even if you personally don't know someone from the country.
Challenge #10: Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (but not your own)
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So other than specifying that your friend has to be someone you've met in person, I'm pretty flexible with this challenge. I think it's pretty self-explanatory otherwise, but if any questions come up let me know.
I'm planning on reading at least one title by a Brazilian author for the exchange student that was living with us last semester (he went home last week).
Edited to add - I will allow matched reads, even if you personally don't know someone from the country.
18inge87
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Challenge #11: Read a book that contains recipes or has the word "Recipe" in the title
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Examples include: Like Water for Chocolate, My Berlin Kitchen: A Love Story (with Recipes), or NUTS!: Southwest Airlines' Crazy Recipe for Business and Personal Success.
Challenge #11: Read a book that contains recipes or has the word "Recipe" in the title
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Examples include: Like Water for Chocolate, My Berlin Kitchen: A Love Story (with Recipes), or NUTS!: Southwest Airlines' Crazy Recipe for Business and Personal Success.
19brenzi
Challenge 13: Read a non-fiction book about a U.S. President that only deals with events that happened before or after his time in office
This is in honor of President's Day. Shared reads are fine.
Two that I already own are River of Doubt: Theodore Roosevelt's Darkest Journey by Candace Millard and Harry Truman's Excellent Adventure: The True Story of a Great American Road Trip.
This is in honor of President's Day. Shared reads are fine.
Two that I already own are River of Doubt: Theodore Roosevelt's Darkest Journey by Candace Millard and Harry Truman's Excellent Adventure: The True Story of a Great American Road Trip.
20Dejah_Thoris
>17 lyzard:
Liz I love your Challenge! And, actually, since I love Georgette Heyer, I'm joining in The Black Moth.
Liz I love your Challenge! And, actually, since I love Georgette Heyer, I'm joining in The Black Moth.
21Chatterbox
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Challenge 12:
Read a book whose subject, author, or title is tied to the great civilizations of classical Greece, Rome, or ancient Egypt
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This can be fiction or non-fiction. You can read Tacitus or Virgil, or Homer. You can read a novel set in these eras. You can read histories about them. You can read about their art or architecture. Or you can read a book whose title or author is directly tied to one of those specific civilizations. So, if you’ve got a book by an author whose first name or surname is Alexander or Julia, you’re good to go! You can read Colleen McCullough’s The First Man in Rome, or a new book by Alexander McCall Smith; Daphne by Justine Picardie or Daphne du Maurier’s classic novel, Rebecca. I.F. Stone’s great book the Trial of Socrates would be an option; so would Gary Corby’s mysteries featuring a fictional big brother to Socrates as a detective. Also Bernard Knox’s essays, The oldest Dead White European Males.
Some options from my own shelves:
The Iliad by Homer
The English Achilles by Hugh Talbot (Achilles – greek hero, even though the book is about an Englishman)
Patrick Leigh Fermor by Artemis Cooper (Artemis is a Greek goddess)
The Golden Ass by Apuleius
The Rise and Fall of Ancient Egypt by Toby Wilkinson
Nefertiti by Nick Drake
King's Man by Pauline Gedge
Amarna Sunset by Aidan Dodson
Alexander’s Tomb by Nicholas Saunders
The Golden Mean & The Sweet Girl by Annabel Lyon
The Flame Alphabet by Ben Marcus (Marcus as surname)
The Memoirs of Cleopatra by Margaret George
Imperium by Robert Harris
Decision at Delphi by Helen MacInnes (home to the oracle -- place name)
The Hemlock Cup by Bettany Hughes
The Messenger of Athens by Anne Zouroudi (place name)
But modern versions of names will not count (no Mark instead of Marcus), nor will names that might have been current in that era in other parts of the Roman empire or other corners of the world. (No Susanna; no Solomon). No, the Byzantine Empire doesn’t count.
Challenge 12:
Read a book whose subject, author, or title is tied to the great civilizations of classical Greece, Rome, or ancient Egypt
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This can be fiction or non-fiction. You can read Tacitus or Virgil, or Homer. You can read a novel set in these eras. You can read histories about them. You can read about their art or architecture. Or you can read a book whose title or author is directly tied to one of those specific civilizations. So, if you’ve got a book by an author whose first name or surname is Alexander or Julia, you’re good to go! You can read Colleen McCullough’s The First Man in Rome, or a new book by Alexander McCall Smith; Daphne by Justine Picardie or Daphne du Maurier’s classic novel, Rebecca. I.F. Stone’s great book the Trial of Socrates would be an option; so would Gary Corby’s mysteries featuring a fictional big brother to Socrates as a detective. Also Bernard Knox’s essays, The oldest Dead White European Males.
Some options from my own shelves:
The Iliad by Homer
The English Achilles by Hugh Talbot (Achilles – greek hero, even though the book is about an Englishman)
Patrick Leigh Fermor by Artemis Cooper (Artemis is a Greek goddess)
The Golden Ass by Apuleius
The Rise and Fall of Ancient Egypt by Toby Wilkinson
Nefertiti by Nick Drake
King's Man by Pauline Gedge
Amarna Sunset by Aidan Dodson
Alexander’s Tomb by Nicholas Saunders
The Golden Mean & The Sweet Girl by Annabel Lyon
The Flame Alphabet by Ben Marcus (Marcus as surname)
The Memoirs of Cleopatra by Margaret George
Imperium by Robert Harris
Decision at Delphi by Helen MacInnes (home to the oracle -- place name)
The Hemlock Cup by Bettany Hughes
The Messenger of Athens by Anne Zouroudi (place name)
But modern versions of names will not count (no Mark instead of Marcus), nor will names that might have been current in that era in other parts of the Roman empire or other corners of the world. (No Susanna; no Solomon). No, the Byzantine Empire doesn’t count.
22Carmenere
And here is Challenge 14: Read a book with a vacation type of structure in the title.
Some examples would be tent, hotel, lodge etc.
ETA: embedded words are permitted.
Some examples would be tent, hotel, lodge etc.
ETA: embedded words are permitted.
23elkiedee
Surely challenge 1 will work for ebooks with numbered pages, if those contain a 7? It won't work for the book I'm reading at the moment, but I think I will finish it in January anyway.
24SqueakyChu
> 23
I don't have an e-book so I'm not sure about this. Don't e-book page numbers change when you change font size? That would not exactly be fair because the page numbers could then be manipulated to fit the challenge.
I don't have an e-book so I'm not sure about this. Don't e-book page numbers change when you change font size? That would not exactly be fair because the page numbers could then be manipulated to fit the challenge.
25cyderry
No, the page numbers stay the same. If you increase the font size you actually can have 2 or 3 screens with the same page number.
26lyzard
Madeline, I often read PDFs as e-books and those have "real" page numbers that cannot be manipulated - would those be okay? I promise not to cheat! :)
ETA: Yes, with ePub at least the page number is held constant through the font manipulation.
ETA: Yes, with ePub at least the page number is held constant through the font manipulation.
27SqueakyChu
> 25, 26
Okay. Then ebooks are okay...if the font size changes do not change the page numbers.
Okay. Then ebooks are okay...if the font size changes do not change the page numbers.
28kidzdoc
Challenge #16: Read a work of 20th/21st century Central or Eastern European literature, for the Reading Globally January - March 2013 Theme Read: 20th/21st century Central and Eastern European literature
Novels by authors from the following countries are eligible:
Poland
Slovakia
Hungary
Czech Republic
Slovenia
Ukraine
Moldovia
Romania
Please refer to the thread in the hyperlink for examples of eligible authors and books for this challenge.
Novels by authors from the following countries are eligible:
Poland
Slovakia
Hungary
Czech Republic
Slovenia
Ukraine
Moldovia
Romania
Please refer to the thread in the hyperlink for examples of eligible authors and books for this challenge.
29lindapanzo
Challenge #17: Read a Book that Either Won or Was Nominated for the Dilys Award
In honor of the Dilys Award nominees, which were just announced, my challenge is to read a book that either won, or was nominated for, the Dilys Award.
The Dilys Award has been given annually since 1993 by a mystery booksellers association. The Dilys Award is named in honor of Dilys Winn, the founder of the first specialty bookseller of mystery books in the United States.
Current nominees and past winners and nominees are at:
http://www.mysterybooksellers.com/dilys-award
This year’s nominees, just announced, are:
Granddad, There’s a Head on the Beach by Colin Cotterill
Broken Harbor by Tana French
Mr. Churchill’s Secretary by Susan Elia MacNeal
The Expats by Chris Pavone by
Before the Poison by Peter Robinson
In honor of the Dilys Award nominees, which were just announced, my challenge is to read a book that either won, or was nominated for, the Dilys Award.
The Dilys Award has been given annually since 1993 by a mystery booksellers association. The Dilys Award is named in honor of Dilys Winn, the founder of the first specialty bookseller of mystery books in the United States.
Current nominees and past winners and nominees are at:
http://www.mysterybooksellers.com/dilys-award
This year’s nominees, just announced, are:
Granddad, There’s a Head on the Beach by Colin Cotterill
Broken Harbor by Tana French
Mr. Churchill’s Secretary by Susan Elia MacNeal
The Expats by Chris Pavone by
Before the Poison by Peter Robinson
30Chatterbox
#29 -- Oh well, you know which of those I'm casting an evil jinx on... I actually can't believe it's nominated. I have read three of the others, and Tana French has a great rep.
#28 -- confess I'm flummoxed that Croatia didn't make the cut, esp. as Romania did?
#28 -- confess I'm flummoxed that Croatia didn't make the cut, esp. as Romania did?
31elkiedee
Even more relevant, why Slovenia but not Croatia or Serbia or Bosnia or Kosova? Why not all parts of the former Yugoslavia?
32kidzdoc
>30 Chatterbox:, 31 I'm not sure why the countries you both mentioned weren't included. The ones I listed were those that were chosen for the Reading Globally first quarter group read. My only goal in creating this challenge was to encourage people to participate in Reading Globally, and this group read. Feel free to ask rebeccanyc or DieFledermaus why those other countries weren't chosen.
33Chatterbox
I suppose for some odd reason there might be a separate group with "Balkans"? Although Greece really has almost nothing to do with the others in terms of literature. Oh well, ours not to reason why...
Madeline, the page # (if the e-reader supports page numbers for the specific book; not all do) is fixed regardless of font, font size, etc. It's synced with some paper version of the book.
Madeline, the page # (if the e-reader supports page numbers for the specific book; not all do) is fixed regardless of font, font size, etc. It's synced with some paper version of the book.
34AnneDC
>30 Chatterbox:-32 I think the reason for the inclusion/exclusion of various countries is because there was a Balkans theme last year in the Reading Globally group and the idea was not to duplicate countries. I remember that Romania was not included in the Balkans grouping for last year's read--but I didn't remember Slovenia being excluded. The other former Yugoslav counties were all included in the Balkans read as well as Albania, Greece, Bulgaria and Turkey.
35Citizenjoyce
Oh, I'm late to the party.
Challenge #18" Read a Family Saga which is a genre of literature which chronicles the lives and doings of a family or a number of related or interconnected families over a period of time.Fiction or non fiction. I'm reading books from different countries and cultures. My planned reads are:
A Brief History of Montmaray - Michelle Cooper Call it sleep - Henry Roth - Audiobook
Call it sleep - Henry Roth - Audiobook
Cutting for Stone - Abraham A. Verghese
The Distance Between Us: A Memoir - Reyna Grande
The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family - Annette Gordon-Reed
Roots - Alex Haley - Audiobook
Very Valentine - Adriana Trigiani
The View from Castle Rock: Stories - Alice Munro - Audiobook
Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China - Jung Chang - Audiobook
Challenge #18" Read a Family Saga which is a genre of literature which chronicles the lives and doings of a family or a number of related or interconnected families over a period of time.Fiction or non fiction. I'm reading books from different countries and cultures. My planned reads are:
A Brief History of Montmaray - Michelle Cooper Call it sleep - Henry Roth - Audiobook
Call it sleep - Henry Roth - Audiobook
Cutting for Stone - Abraham A. Verghese
The Distance Between Us: A Memoir - Reyna Grande
The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family - Annette Gordon-Reed
Roots - Alex Haley - Audiobook
Very Valentine - Adriana Trigiani
The View from Castle Rock: Stories - Alice Munro - Audiobook
Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China - Jung Chang - Audiobook
36christiguc
I started mine - Challenge 15 - Read a book wherein one of the major characters has the same first name as you.
Fiction, nonfiction, biography, whatever. The person doesn't have to be the primary character but should play a significant part.
I find that the Common Knowledge Search can be helpful in finding People/Character names.
Fiction, nonfiction, biography, whatever. The person doesn't have to be the primary character but should play a significant part.
I find that the Common Knowledge Search can be helpful in finding People/Character names.
37DeltaQueen50
#35 - Joyce, Madeline has already listed Cutting for Stone under challenge #1, you may want to move yours over there.
38Chatterbox
#36 -- thank heavens. I couldn't come up with a single book. Now I have at least one, although my character is somewhat secondary.
39Samantha_kathy
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40christiguc
>39 Samantha_kathy: - A Soul's Calling can go in the all but one vowel (only missing 'e')
41Samantha_kathy
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42Chatterbox
Looking for a place for The Racketeer by John Grisham, which has to go back to the library soon...?
43Samantha_kathy
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44calm
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Challenge #19: Read a book mentioned in a book you read in January
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This can be a book mentioned in a story or a book listed in the sources or bibliography. Please say which book you read in January. Matched reads are allowed.
Challenge #19: Read a book mentioned in a book you read in January
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This can be a book mentioned in a story or a book listed in the sources or bibliography. Please say which book you read in January. Matched reads are allowed.
45paulstalder
>4 Dejah_Thoris: Dejah_Thoris, are translated words okay? Blut = sang = blood? Or only English books?
47wandering_star
Carmenere, are embedded words allowed for the 'vacation structure' challenge?
48Carmenere
Good question, wandering_star, Hmmmm, do I feel generous today? Yeah, I do! So sure, embedded structures are fine :0)
49SqueakyChu
> 33
Madeline, the page # (if the e-reader supports page numbers for the specific book; not all do) is fixed regardless of font, font size, etc. It's synced with some paper version of the book.
Thanks, Suz. That's good for me to know.
Madeline, the page # (if the e-reader supports page numbers for the specific book; not all do) is fixed regardless of font, font size, etc. It's synced with some paper version of the book.
Thanks, Suz. That's good for me to know.
51PaulCranswick
Wow there are really some splendid categories already this month.
Madeline for your challenge #1 do we count explanatory notes, afterwords, acknowledgements etc or only the numbered pages of the book/story itself?
I am going to see what I can fit from my planned reading and if not juggle it around a bit to fit as many challenges as I can.
Madeline for your challenge #1 do we count explanatory notes, afterwords, acknowledgements etc or only the numbered pages of the book/story itself?
I am going to see what I can fit from my planned reading and if not juggle it around a bit to fit as many challenges as I can.
52PaulCranswick
Darryl - your challenge - what about non-fiction?
53SqueakyChu
> 50
Use the last printed page number despite what is written on the page.
Do not use any numbered sequence that might be different from the numbers used elsewhere throughout the rest of the book (just in case the afterwords etc. have a different numbering system)
Use the last printed page number despite what is written on the page.
Do not use any numbered sequence that might be different from the numbers used elsewhere throughout the rest of the book (just in case the afterwords etc. have a different numbering system)
54PaulCranswick
Thanks Madeline
55kidzdoc
>52 PaulCranswick: Paul, I started to say "no", but then I remembered that some members of Reading Globally have read books of nonfiction and poetry for past challenges (including me). So, yes, nonfiction counts.
I had meant to encourage participants in my challenge who write reviews of their books to post them on the Reading Globally group read thread:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/146033
No one is required to write a review, though.
I had meant to encourage participants in my challenge who write reviews of their books to post them on the Reading Globally group read thread:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/146033
No one is required to write a review, though.
56PaulCranswick
Thanks Darryl.
Challenge #20 - Read a book by an author whose name is "of" somewhere or something or somebody.
In other words their names would be constructed with O' or de or de la and such like; examples:
Memoirs of a Midget by Walter de la Mare
Birds Without Wings by Louis de Bernieres
The Country Girls by Edna O'Brien
Challenge #20 - Read a book by an author whose name is "of" somewhere or something or somebody.
In other words their names would be constructed with O' or de or de la and such like; examples:
Memoirs of a Midget by Walter de la Mare
Birds Without Wings by Louis de Bernieres
The Country Girls by Edna O'Brien
57SqueakyChu
Great challenges, everyone! There's such a nice variety - something for everyone...
58gennyt
#56 Presumably that would include names with van/von and van de/von der etc too?
And being nit-picky, in fact the O in O'Brien and other Irish names does not actually mean simply 'of'. It comes from Ui meaning 'grandson of', ie an indication of family/clan membership, like the Scottish 'Mac' (son of) and Welsh 'ap'. But I guess there is still the meaning of origins/belonging there, so your challenge definition still works.
And being nit-picky, in fact the O in O'Brien and other Irish names does not actually mean simply 'of'. It comes from Ui meaning 'grandson of', ie an indication of family/clan membership, like the Scottish 'Mac' (son of) and Welsh 'ap'. But I guess there is still the meaning of origins/belonging there, so your challenge definition still works.
59Dejah_Thoris
>45 paulstalder:
Hi Paul - I'm fine with titles in other languages - if the translation is on the list of words, go for it!
If you feel like giving us the word in English as well, it might be educational for those of us who are...hmm...linguistically challenged. Your option.
Hi Paul - I'm fine with titles in other languages - if the translation is on the list of words, go for it!
If you feel like giving us the word in English as well, it might be educational for those of us who are...hmm...linguistically challenged. Your option.
60Samantha_kathy
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61countrylife
RE: Challenge #7 - arthropods. Found a nice little list of arthropods here.
62Morphidae
Challenge #21: Read a book with a Valentine's Day related cover
Read a book with a symbol of Valentine's Day on it. This would include: a romantic couple (i.e. not just two people,) heart(s), candy, chocolate, rose(s), cupid. It doesn't matter what the book's genre is.
Read a book with a symbol of Valentine's Day on it. This would include: a romantic couple (i.e. not just two people,) heart(s), candy, chocolate, rose(s), cupid. It doesn't matter what the book's genre is.
63countrylife
>Paul, re your challenge #20 name is "of" : as gennyt said (@ 58), the wording of your challenge makes O' work as being of somebody. In the same vein, does your challenge allow for Mc's (as in McLeary) and Mac's (as in MacDonald) as well?
64AnneDC
For those reading A Dance to the Music of Time this year, my copy of Book 2, A Buyer's Market, ends on page 274 so I put it into challenge 1.
65calm
Suzanne - would you accept The Magus in your challenge? - I kind of associate Medes and Persians with that era but if it is restricted to Greek; Roman or Egyptian I will understand.
67PaulCranswick
Genny - In my defence the challenge is of "something, somewhere or someone as I am aware of course that the O' is son or daughter of.
Cindy - I will have to allow Mac & Mc I guess. I was going to disallow it on the grounds that it is attached to the rest of the surname but the meaning is the same so it'll have to stand.
Cindy - I will have to allow Mac & Mc I guess. I was going to disallow it on the grounds that it is attached to the rest of the surname but the meaning is the same so it'll have to stand.
68PawsforThought
Paul, if you count the "O'"s and the "Mac/Mc"s, do you count the "-sson/son/ssen/sen"s and "-dotter/datter""aswell? It has the exact same meaning as the first two ("son of" and "daughter of").
69lindapanzo
What a terrific selection of challenges this month!! I'll be oversubscribed, as usual.
If you're reading Dangerous Water by Ron Powers for the Missouri Readers group, I put this under Challenge #5.
If you're reading Dangerous Water by Ron Powers for the Missouri Readers group, I put this under Challenge #5.
70Chatterbox
Calm, I'll stretch the point on this, as some googling reveals that the word magus is a derivation from Greek, or has a greek variant (magos) and seems to have been used in Greek to describe zoroastrianism. But no books with characters named Darius, please... !
Yes, Paul -- thankful for the "O's", but as a Mc myself, I have to strike a blow for all Celtic equality...
Yes, Paul -- thankful for the "O's", but as a Mc myself, I have to strike a blow for all Celtic equality...
72DeltaQueen50
#60 - Samantha, since my wording is movie star/entertainer, I will accept TV actors, but I also used the word "star" so I would like them to be fairly well known in at least their own country.
73lahochstetler
Challenge 22- Read a book that is mentioned on the Top 5 of 2012 thread
Thread is here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/146182
I'm not sure how to link it. I'm getting ready for work right now, but I can play around with it tonight. In any case, any book that someone listed as one of their top books is fine- people didn't always stick strictly to five. The only books that don't count are any that are mentioned in passing as one of the worst (there's only a couple of those.)
Have fun!
Thread is here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/146182
I'm not sure how to link it. I'm getting ready for work right now, but I can play around with it tonight. In any case, any book that someone listed as one of their top books is fine- people didn't always stick strictly to five. The only books that don't count are any that are mentioned in passing as one of the worst (there's only a couple of those.)
Have fun!
74Citizenjoyce
Thanks Madeline and Delta Queen, I'll move Cutting For Stone to challeng #1 when I get to a computer instead of my Nook.
75kidzdoc
Woo! I've fit all 14 16 of my planned reads for February into TIOLI challenges:
Challenge #1: Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7"
Big Machine by Victor LaValle - COMPLETED
Challenge #2: Read a historical-fiction or non-fiction book about American History
The Accidental City: Improvising New Orleans by Lawrence N. Powell - Reading
Power, Politics, and Universal Health Care by Stuart Altman & David Shactman
Challenge #5: Missing Vowel Challenge: Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded)
Bill Veeck's Crosstown Classic by Bill Veeck - COMPLETED
Great House by Nicole Krauss - COMPLETED
A History of the Present Illness by Louise Aranson - Reading
In the House of the Interpreter by Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o - COMPLETED
Challenge #6: Read and review an unread book you received through ER or MG
How to Get Filthy Rich in Rising Asia by Mohsin Hamid - COMPLETED
Power Systems: Conversations on Global Democratic Uprisings and the New Challenges to U.S. Empire by Noam Chomsky
Challenge #8: Washington's Birthday Rolling Challenge: Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington"
Of Africa by Wole Soyinka
Challenge #10: Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (not your own)
Cosmopolitanism: Ethics in a World of Strangers by Kwame Anthony Appiah
Pow! by Mo Yan
The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Fry by Rachel Joyce - COMPLETED
Vertical Motion by Can Xue
Challenge 16: Read a work of 20th/21st century Central or European literature
The Other City by Michal Ajvaz - COMPLETED
Stone Upon Stone by Wiesław Myśliwski - COMPLETED
The Street of Crocodiles and Other Stories by Bruno Schulz
Challenge #1: Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7"
Big Machine by Victor LaValle - COMPLETED
Challenge #2: Read a historical-fiction or non-fiction book about American History
The Accidental City: Improvising New Orleans by Lawrence N. Powell - Reading
Power, Politics, and Universal Health Care by Stuart Altman & David Shactman
Challenge #5: Missing Vowel Challenge: Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded)
Bill Veeck's Crosstown Classic by Bill Veeck - COMPLETED
Great House by Nicole Krauss - COMPLETED
A History of the Present Illness by Louise Aranson - Reading
In the House of the Interpreter by Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o - COMPLETED
Challenge #6: Read and review an unread book you received through ER or MG
How to Get Filthy Rich in Rising Asia by Mohsin Hamid - COMPLETED
Power Systems: Conversations on Global Democratic Uprisings and the New Challenges to U.S. Empire by Noam Chomsky
Challenge #8: Washington's Birthday Rolling Challenge: Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington"
Of Africa by Wole Soyinka
Challenge #10: Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (not your own)
Cosmopolitanism: Ethics in a World of Strangers by Kwame Anthony Appiah
Pow! by Mo Yan
The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Fry by Rachel Joyce - COMPLETED
Vertical Motion by Can Xue
Challenge 16: Read a work of 20th/21st century Central or European literature
The Other City by Michal Ajvaz - COMPLETED
Stone Upon Stone by Wiesław Myśliwski - COMPLETED
The Street of Crocodiles and Other Stories by Bruno Schulz
76paulstalder
>59 Dejah_Thoris: Thanks Dejah, I will give a literal translation of the titles :)
77Samantha_kathy
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78PawsforThought
77. I really like that challenge! A bit of girl power. :)
79AuntieClio
#77, Thank you! Now I can read one of my Tudor books and have it in a TIOLI challenge.
80AuntieClio
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Challenge #24: In honor of "The Day the Music Died," read a book about music or musicians.
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Richie Valens, the Big Bopper and Buddy Holly died in a small plane crash on February 3, 1959. Books can be fiction or non-fiction, but the prevailing theme must be music or musicians.
Challenge #24: In honor of "The Day the Music Died," read a book about music or musicians.
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Richie Valens, the Big Bopper and Buddy Holly died in a small plane crash on February 3, 1959. Books can be fiction or non-fiction, but the prevailing theme must be music or musicians.
81Chatterbox
Some interesting queen regnants:
Matilda (although her rule was disputed) features in Sharon Kay Penman's novels.
Queen Victoria would count.
Juana of Castile, daughter of Isabella of Castile was a queen regnant, and I can think of a couple of books (fiction and non) looking at her. Isabella herself was a queen reigning in her own right.
What about rulers who weren't queens? eg duchesses in the Italian Renaissance?
There is Maria Theresa of Austria (Marie Antoinette's mother); several Russian emperesses, including Catherine the Great.
There is a non-fiction book about Joanna of Naples (14th century). There is Queen Christina of Sweden, who was actually crowned king! and who later abdicated.
In England -- Lady Jane Grey would count, technically.
I assume Cleopatra would count. And there were some Hawaiian queens regnant.
Matilda (although her rule was disputed) features in Sharon Kay Penman's novels.
Queen Victoria would count.
Juana of Castile, daughter of Isabella of Castile was a queen regnant, and I can think of a couple of books (fiction and non) looking at her. Isabella herself was a queen reigning in her own right.
What about rulers who weren't queens? eg duchesses in the Italian Renaissance?
There is Maria Theresa of Austria (Marie Antoinette's mother); several Russian emperesses, including Catherine the Great.
There is a non-fiction book about Joanna of Naples (14th century). There is Queen Christina of Sweden, who was actually crowned king! and who later abdicated.
In England -- Lady Jane Grey would count, technically.
I assume Cleopatra would count. And there were some Hawaiian queens regnant.
82lahochstetler
Queen Anne of England (1702-13) is also a queen regnant. One could make an argument about Mary (of William and Mary). She came to the throne because she was James's Protestant daughter, but ruled with William as co-monarch. This is a gross oversimplification, but I'd be willing to expand the argument if necessary.
83PawsforThought
For those interested, Sweden's had a few Queen Regents too. There's Queen Christina, Queen Margaret 1 (who was queen regent of the whole Kalmar Union), and Queen Ulrika Eleonora (who was Queen Regent at first and then gave the crown over to her husband).
84Chatterbox
#82, definitely yes on Queen Mary II. She gets overlooked too often, but the right to the throne for William came through her, primarily. He had a right, too, but it was via Charles I's daughter, not his son, thus secondary. (they were cousins). I doubt the English would have accepted him had Mary died prior to this; I think they probably would have gone directly to Queen Anne.
85Samantha_kathy
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86lyzard
>>#82 And Mary did much of the actual ruling, as William was off at war a lot of the time.
>>#84 But Anne didn't have an army; they needed William to bluff James off the throne. No argument that they didn't really want him as king though: they did offer the crown to Mary alone in the first place but she declined.
>>#84 But Anne didn't have an army; they needed William to bluff James off the throne. No argument that they didn't really want him as king though: they did offer the crown to Mary alone in the first place but she declined.
87Chatterbox
Lyz -- where would John Churchill, later Marlborough, have been at this point in time? (1685?) Given their close affiliation with Anne at this time, would he have commanded enough loyalty in her name to pull this off, or could it only be done from outside the country? Reminds me to go back and read something about the Glorious Revolution. I seem to remember that William was hedged in by a lot of terms and conditions that made him the first real constitutional monarch, bec. the English didn't want to be ruled by a Dutchman (after all, the Dutch had recently sailed up the Thames and burned English vessels) and Mary didn't want to reign solo...
AuntieClio -- I think if you want to create a challenge, you need to set it up in the wiki.
AuntieClio -- I think if you want to create a challenge, you need to set it up in the wiki.
88lyzard
Oh, he wasn't just hedged in: as a condition of their rule William and Mary passed the Bill of Rights, which ended any notion of a "Divine Right" and set constitutional monarchy in stone.
Oddly, William also agreed to have his and Mary's children passed over in favour of Anne's in the succession, but the Stuarts being the Stuarts, that of course never became necessary.
John Churchill received an earldom from William and Mary after their succession, but his appointments were at court rather than the army. He got into political hot water after that and fell out of favour (i.e. had a stint in the Tower). It wasn't until Anne's succession that he got back on track.
Oddly, William also agreed to have his and Mary's children passed over in favour of Anne's in the succession, but the Stuarts being the Stuarts, that of course never became necessary.
John Churchill received an earldom from William and Mary after their succession, but his appointments were at court rather than the army. He got into political hot water after that and fell out of favour (i.e. had a stint in the Tower). It wasn't until Anne's succession that he got back on track.
89cameling
What fun challenges. I'm going to need to go through my bookshelves to see how many might fit into the challenges this month.
90Citizenjoyce
Whew, once again I'm greedy about my planned reads. Here they are:
Challenge #1: Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7"
✔Cutting for Stone - Abraham Verghese (4.5)
✔Divergent - Veronica Roth - Audiobook (4)
Challenge #4: Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title
removed Darkover Landfall - Marion Zimmer Bradley
Challenge #5: Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels
✔The Hobbit or There and Back Again - J. R. R. Tolkien (4)
Challenge #8: Washington's Birthday Rolling Challenge: Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington"
✔The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness - Michelle Alexander (5)
✔Still Alice - Lisa Genova RL Book Club (5)
Challenge #9: Read a book whose author shares their last name with a movie star/entertainer
✔Insurgent Veronica Roth
Challenge #10: Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (not your own)
✔Bonobo Handshake: A Memoir of Love and Adventure in the Congo - Vanessa Woods (5)
Abandoned Tigana - Guy Gavriel Kay - Audiobook
Challenge 15: Read a book wherein one of the major characters has the same first name as you
✔Losing My Mind: An Intimate Look at Life with Alzheimer's - Thomas DeBaggio (4)
Challenge #17: Read a book that either won, or was nominated for, the Dilys Award
RemovedChild 44 - Tom Robb Smith (Nook)
Challenge #18" Read a Family Saga
✔Bad Blood - Lorna Sage (Nook) (3)
✔A Brief History of Montmaray - Michelle Cooper - Audiobook (3)
✔Call it sleep - Henry Roth - Audiobook (4)
moved to March The Distance Between Us: A Memoir - Reyna Grande
✔The Forgotten Garden - Kate Morton
Removed The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family - Annette Gordon-Reed
✔Roots - Alex Haley - Audiobook (5)
Abandoned Very Valentine - Adriana Trigiani
Removed The View from Castle Rock: Stories - Alice Munro - Audiobook
moved to March Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China - Jung Chang - Audiobook
Challenge #22: Read a book mentioned in the LT "Top 5 of 2012" thread
Removed On the Origin of Species - Charles Darwin
Removed The Sandman: Endless Nights - Neil Gaiman
Challenge #25: Read a book where an animal figures prominently in the plot
✔Ape House: A Novel - Sara Gruen - (Nook)
Challenge #1: Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7"
✔Cutting for Stone - Abraham Verghese (4.5)
✔Divergent - Veronica Roth - Audiobook (4)
Challenge #4: Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title
removed Darkover Landfall - Marion Zimmer Bradley
Challenge #5: Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels
✔The Hobbit or There and Back Again - J. R. R. Tolkien (4)
Challenge #8: Washington's Birthday Rolling Challenge: Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington"
✔The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness - Michelle Alexander (5)
✔Still Alice - Lisa Genova RL Book Club (5)
Challenge #9: Read a book whose author shares their last name with a movie star/entertainer
✔Insurgent Veronica Roth
Challenge #10: Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (not your own)
✔Bonobo Handshake: A Memoir of Love and Adventure in the Congo - Vanessa Woods (5)
Abandoned Tigana - Guy Gavriel Kay - Audiobook
Challenge 15: Read a book wherein one of the major characters has the same first name as you
✔Losing My Mind: An Intimate Look at Life with Alzheimer's - Thomas DeBaggio (4)
Challenge #17: Read a book that either won, or was nominated for, the Dilys Award
RemovedChild 44 - Tom Robb Smith (Nook)
Challenge #18" Read a Family Saga
✔Bad Blood - Lorna Sage (Nook) (3)
✔A Brief History of Montmaray - Michelle Cooper - Audiobook (3)
✔Call it sleep - Henry Roth - Audiobook (4)
moved to March The Distance Between Us: A Memoir - Reyna Grande
✔The Forgotten Garden - Kate Morton
Removed The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family - Annette Gordon-Reed
✔Roots - Alex Haley - Audiobook (5)
Abandoned Very Valentine - Adriana Trigiani
Removed The View from Castle Rock: Stories - Alice Munro - Audiobook
moved to March Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China - Jung Chang - Audiobook
Challenge #22: Read a book mentioned in the LT "Top 5 of 2012" thread
Removed On the Origin of Species - Charles Darwin
Removed The Sandman: Endless Nights - Neil Gaiman
Challenge #25: Read a book where an animal figures prominently in the plot
✔Ape House: A Novel - Sara Gruen - (Nook)
91humouress
>80 AuntieClio:: AuntieClio - you need to set up your challenge on the wiki.
Go back up to the second message in this thread and click on the latest blue challenge numbers (by now, Challenges 19-22).
That takes you to the wiki, and then add your challenge. Essentially, just copy the format from a previous challenge, and use the preview button to check it looks right. Once it does, save the page.
When Madeline sees it, she'll add it to the challenge list at the top of the thread here. Usually, she links it to the post where you proposed the challenge, so people can check for explanations. I suggest you edit your post to make the challenge stand out, as calm has done here.
If you need help with the wiki, just ask on this thread.
If you need help formatting your post, have a look here.
Go back up to the second message in this thread and click on the latest blue challenge numbers (by now, Challenges 19-22).
That takes you to the wiki, and then add your challenge. Essentially, just copy the format from a previous challenge, and use the preview button to check it looks right. Once it does, save the page.
When Madeline sees it, she'll add it to the challenge list at the top of the thread here. Usually, she links it to the post where you proposed the challenge, so people can check for explanations. I suggest you edit your post to make the challenge stand out, as calm has done here.
If you need help with the wiki, just ask on this thread.
If you need help formatting your post, have a look here.
92wandering_star
love the list of arthropods! (although it hasn't helped me find any more suitable books on my TBR...)
93Dejah_Thoris
>76 paulstalder:
Paul - You don't have to translate the entire title unless you want to - just the qualifying word is enough. Either way is fine with me!
Paul - You don't have to translate the entire title unless you want to - just the qualifying word is enough. Either way is fine with me!
94Matke
Lots of choices. I'm still trying to read books already owned, so this month. I'm looking at
Ch. 1: The Right Attitude to Rain
Ch.3: The French Lieutenant's Woman
Ch. 5: Standing in the Rainbow
Ch. 6: Stuck in the Middle with You
Ch. 8: The Egyptian
Ch. 13: The River of Doubt
Ch. 22: The Man in the Wooden Hat
Plus one book by John Fowles that I couldn't fit into any challenge. Oh dear.
Ch. 1: The Right Attitude to Rain
Ch.3: The French Lieutenant's Woman
Ch. 5: Standing in the Rainbow
Ch. 6: Stuck in the Middle with You
Ch. 8: The Egyptian
Ch. 13: The River of Doubt
Ch. 22: The Man in the Wooden Hat
Plus one book by John Fowles that I couldn't fit into any challenge. Oh dear.
96SqueakyChu
> 80
AuntieClio, do put your challenge on the wiki now. If you have any problems putting it on, let me know.
Instructions are here.
AuntieClio, do put your challenge on the wiki now. If you have any problems putting it on, let me know.
Instructions are here.
97SqueakyChu
Do we need another wiki page? if so, please let me know.
98humouress
Not yet; but we do need another TIOLI meter! The link (on page 2 of this month's wiki, anyway) goes to the December meter.
Added Ella Enchanted by Gail Carson Levine to Challenge 9; she shares her name with Adam Levine (thank you, Google). It's a bit early in the month, but it can go on the Quickie Reads list.
Added Ella Enchanted by Gail Carson Levine to Challenge 9; she shares her name with Adam Levine (thank you, Google). It's a bit early in the month, but it can go on the Quickie Reads list.
99SqueakyChu
> 98
Fixed. Thanks!
Fixed. Thanks!
100AuntieClio
Thank you all for your help.
I'd like clarification on 19. Read a book mentioned in a book you read in January. Dharma Lion mentions Thoreau as one of Ginsberg's influences, but it does not mention a specific work of Thoreau's. Would reading Civil Disobedience by Henry David Thoreau count? Or must the title be mentioned specifically?
I'd like clarification on 19. Read a book mentioned in a book you read in January. Dharma Lion mentions Thoreau as one of Ginsberg's influences, but it does not mention a specific work of Thoreau's. Would reading Civil Disobedience by Henry David Thoreau count? Or must the title be mentioned specifically?
101SqueakyChu
Wiki page 5 is going up now...
102raidergirl3
Shortest month for reading, and the most challenges (I think) I've seen in the year I've been playing TIOLI.
103SqueakyChu
This is the most ever challenges going up tonight. I'm curious to see what's going to happen to our shared reads as we add more challenges.
106SqueakyChu
I saw Zoo City listed for both challenge #4 and challenge #25!
107MikeBriggs
I was playing around with thingies over on Goodreads just now (it's easier to add, quickly, the exact book I've read/reading over there (if you have the exact ISBN) then later add over here), looking for books I'd read this month but didn't have time to add to the Wiki. Found several. Added. Point of my post, though, is that I can quickly and easily see the covers of the books I've read so far this year (on my 2013 challenge page).
I've been too busy to post here, there, anywhere this month, but shesh. I didn't realize until I looked at that page that everything I'd read so far this year has been fluff.
Of the 8 nongraphic novels: 1 mystery, 2 alt history books by the same author, 4 science fiction books (3 of which were Star Trek related - hadn't read one in years, but joined that free Star Trek Online the other month and that got me to try some again; that 4th science ficiton book is the one book that is borderline fluff, but close enough to include in that category), and one young adult science fiction book (which I'd have called horror, what with the zombies, but they aren't zombies but alien invaders, so Science Fiction).
And then 9 graphic novels, 6 of which are marketed as young adult (mostly because they involve young adults).
I do not currently see me adding anything this month that isn't fluff. Sometimes you need to read fluff.
Not currently reading anything at the moment, though. I probably should get around to that. So I can add books to this month's wiki. And/or add challenges.
I will note two things: my challenge that I added for January, the one that allowed me to have a specific challenge to put graphic novels into, probably increased greatly my chances that I'd come to this point in time and find that I'd read so much fluff. I know I wouldn't have read all of those that I had. At least not in January. It's past midnight. I don't remember my second thing.
I've been too busy to post here, there, anywhere this month, but shesh. I didn't realize until I looked at that page that everything I'd read so far this year has been fluff.
Of the 8 nongraphic novels: 1 mystery, 2 alt history books by the same author, 4 science fiction books (3 of which were Star Trek related - hadn't read one in years, but joined that free Star Trek Online the other month and that got me to try some again; that 4th science ficiton book is the one book that is borderline fluff, but close enough to include in that category), and one young adult science fiction book (which I'd have called horror, what with the zombies, but they aren't zombies but alien invaders, so Science Fiction).
And then 9 graphic novels, 6 of which are marketed as young adult (mostly because they involve young adults).
I do not currently see me adding anything this month that isn't fluff. Sometimes you need to read fluff.
Not currently reading anything at the moment, though. I probably should get around to that. So I can add books to this month's wiki. And/or add challenges.
I will note two things: my challenge that I added for January, the one that allowed me to have a specific challenge to put graphic novels into, probably increased greatly my chances that I'd come to this point in time and find that I'd read so much fluff. I know I wouldn't have read all of those that I had. At least not in January. It's past midnight. I don't remember my second thing.
108labfs39
>28 kidzdoc: Darryl, don't you mean Challenge #16: Read a work of 20th/21st century Central or East European literature?
109SqueakyChu
> 107
Not currently reading anything at the moment, though.
Mike, that's worse than reading fluff. Heh!
Not currently reading anything at the moment, though.
Mike, that's worse than reading fluff. Heh!
110MikeBriggs
108> Well, to be fair, I had just finished a book on the way home from work on the train. I could have started another tonight, but ended up catching up on some of the tv I had missed lately. I do have one that I could have jumped into, though. A ton, actually, but this one is a sequal to a book I read in January, and a library book. So it's probably next to be read. Though is fluff. No fluffy animals in it, though. I think.
113Chatterbox
Challenge XYZ
Read fluff? A book that you define as fluff? A book that you would describe as "airplane reading"?
A book like cotton candy, with no nutritional content whatsoever (but lots of sugar)?
Of course, it would end up being very subjective...
Ugh, I'm tired. Just finishing my work for the day at 3:30, a.m., which is an improvement over 6 a.m. yesterday. (managed 4 hours of sleep before having to get up again.)
Read fluff? A book that you define as fluff? A book that you would describe as "airplane reading"?
A book like cotton candy, with no nutritional content whatsoever (but lots of sugar)?
Of course, it would end up being very subjective...
Ugh, I'm tired. Just finishing my work for the day at 3:30, a.m., which is an improvement over 6 a.m. yesterday. (managed 4 hours of sleep before having to get up again.)
114PawsforThought
Oh, I'm joining in on my first TIOLI challenges!
This is my plan:
Challenge #3. Read a book with a school subject in the title
The French Lieutentant's Woman by John Fowles
Challenge #4. Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title
Call for the Dead by John le Carré
Challenge 5. Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded)
The Spy Who Came in From the Cold by John le Carré
That's it for now. Hopefully I'll find one or two more - if I do, I'll add them later.
This is my plan:
Challenge #3. Read a book with a school subject in the title
The French Lieutentant's Woman by John Fowles
Challenge #4. Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title
Call for the Dead by John le Carré
Challenge 5. Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded)
The Spy Who Came in From the Cold by John le Carré
That's it for now. Hopefully I'll find one or two more - if I do, I'll add them later.
115humouress
Hmm... 25 challenges and counting.
For anyone doing Fantasy February - can you fit your Fantasy books (etc) into one of the existing challenges, or do we need another specific one (apart from Challenge 4)?
And if we do, would "Read a book with the tag 'fantasy' (or some derivative thereof)" be too general? I believe in easy challenges :0)ETA: :(
For anyone doing Fantasy February - can you fit your Fantasy books (etc) into one of the existing challenges, or do we need another specific one (apart from Challenge 4)?
And if we do, would "Read a book with the tag 'fantasy' (or some derivative thereof)" be too general? I believe in easy challenges :0)
Vote: Should we have a challenge to 'read a book tagged as fantasy?
Current tally: Yes 4, No 22
116kidzdoc
>108 labfs39: You're right, Lisa. Thanks for pointing that out.
117gennyt
#115 I expect that many of the fantasy reads will fit into Challenge 4 - read a book with a common SSF title word in the title. It will be interesting to see how many. Certainly my first choice for Fantasy February Oath of Gold works, because it has the word 'gold' in it.
118calm
@100 - AuntieClio - sorry I would like the book you read for the challenge to be actually mentioned so just the author isn't enough. Hope you can find another challenge for your book.
119PaulCranswick
Paws - I am not going to allow the "son", "sson" ssen" and "dottir" - my first thought was that the "of" should be distinct and separate from the rest of the surname. I conceded with Mac/Mc but I'll have to draw the line somewhere or the challenge becomes too easy!
120lalbro
Lots of great choices here. I think one of the first things I will need to do is see which of the books I had hoped to read last month could be reconsidered for one of the challenges...oh, and I need to make sure I put the ones I finished up on the wiki.....
121AuntieClio
#118 - calm, thank you for the clarification. No worries, I'm sure I can figure something else out. :-)
122DeltaQueen50
In Challenge #9 someone has listed the book Survivor In Death, but needs to go back and add their name to the wiki entry. Thanks.
123MikeBriggs
Well, started and added a book to the TIOLI wiki. Of course, fluffy it be. It could fit in challenge 4 (has two matching words, Star and War; it is not a Star Wars book), wouldn't fit challenge 5 as the only vowel missing is y. Fits challenge 9 - Michael A. Martin (author) - Steve Martin (movie star/entertainer). Is wordy title for a book. Star Trek: The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm.
124fuzzi
I'm trying to use my ROOT books for the TIOLI challenges! (for ROOT information, read here: http://www.librarything.com/groups/root2013readourownto)
From my journal page:
Challenge #1: Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7":
Dogsong (177 pgs) by Gary Paulsen (ROOT)
The Guns of Navarone (278 pgs) by Alistair MacLean (ROOT)
Kidnapped (276pgs) by Robert Louis Stevenson (ROOT)
Red Storm Rising (725pgs) by Tom Clancy (ROOT)
Challenge #3: Read a book with a school subject in the title:
Black Hearts in Battersea by Joan Aiken (ROOT)
The Art of Racing in the Rain by Garth Stein (ROOT)
Challenge #4: Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title:
The Witch of Blackbird Pond by Elizabeth George Speare (ROOT)
Challenge #6: Read and review an unread book you received through ER or MG:
(Discussion thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/149162)
Jersey Joe Walcott by James Curl (ROOT)
The Lives of Norman Mailer by Carl Rollyson (ROOT)
Challenge #8: Washington's Birthday Rolling Challenge: Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington":
I Into the Wild by Erin Hunter (ROOT)
Challenge #9: Read a book whose author shares their last name with a movie star/entertainer:
The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis (Daniel Day Lewis) (ROOT)
Challenge #10: Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (not your own):
Never Cry Wolf by Farley Mowat
If I read them all, it will be another 12 books in February, as I read in January.
From my journal page:
Challenge #1: Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7":
Dogsong (177 pgs) by Gary Paulsen (ROOT)
The Guns of Navarone (278 pgs) by Alistair MacLean (ROOT)
Kidnapped (276pgs) by Robert Louis Stevenson (ROOT)
Red Storm Rising (725pgs) by Tom Clancy (ROOT)
Challenge #3: Read a book with a school subject in the title:
Black Hearts in Battersea by Joan Aiken (ROOT)
The Art of Racing in the Rain by Garth Stein (ROOT)
Challenge #4: Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title:
The Witch of Blackbird Pond by Elizabeth George Speare (ROOT)
Challenge #6: Read and review an unread book you received through ER or MG:
(Discussion thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/149162)
Jersey Joe Walcott by James Curl (ROOT)
The Lives of Norman Mailer by Carl Rollyson (ROOT)
Challenge #8: Washington's Birthday Rolling Challenge: Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington":
I Into the Wild by Erin Hunter (ROOT)
Challenge #9: Read a book whose author shares their last name with a movie star/entertainer:
The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis (Daniel Day Lewis) (ROOT)
Challenge #10: Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (not your own):
Never Cry Wolf by Farley Mowat
If I read them all, it will be another 12 books in February, as I read in January.
125SqueakyChu
I'm moving this comment here from Challenge #25
"- also, Zoo City is listed in Challenge #4 as well"
Please put such comments here on the main thread - not on the wiki, as challengers may put their entries wherever they like - whether or not there is a "match" elsewhere.
The only comments on the wiki pages should be those indicating an incorrect entry. If you make such an entry, please add your name (so we know who posted it). It might be me, the host of a challenge, or any other challenger. Due to some hard feelings before, I'd like this to be out in the open.
Thank you.
"- also, Zoo City is listed in Challenge #4 as well"
Please put such comments here on the main thread - not on the wiki, as challengers may put their entries wherever they like - whether or not there is a "match" elsewhere.
The only comments on the wiki pages should be those indicating an incorrect entry. If you make such an entry, please add your name (so we know who posted it). It might be me, the host of a challenge, or any other challenger. Due to some hard feelings before, I'd like this to be out in the open.
Thank you.
129SqueakyChu
> 124
Lor, you are so good with your ROOTS!
Lor, you are so good with your ROOTS!
130PawsforThought
126. Thank you! :)
132Britt84
Well, I've joined in on Anna Karenina again, since I didn't finish it last month...
I've added Lolita to the valentine's challenge (challenge 21); it's a bit of a stretch, but it shows a girl wearing heart-shaped glasses, and hearts are related to valentine, sooo... And I didn't know in what other challenge to put it...
@ challenge #15: A challenge like this just makes me realise how weird my name really is... I guess if I would be able to read Swedish that would increase my options, but I can't, so that won't work. I really don't know any books with a character that has the same name as I do. Come to think of it, isn't it really weird reading a book about someone that has the same name as yourself? I think I'd find it really odd... Then again, I guess if you have a common name you'll get used to it...
I've added Lolita to the valentine's challenge (challenge 21); it's a bit of a stretch, but it shows a girl wearing heart-shaped glasses, and hearts are related to valentine, sooo... And I didn't know in what other challenge to put it...
@ challenge #15: A challenge like this just makes me realise how weird my name really is... I guess if I would be able to read Swedish that would increase my options, but I can't, so that won't work. I really don't know any books with a character that has the same name as I do. Come to think of it, isn't it really weird reading a book about someone that has the same name as yourself? I think I'd find it really odd... Then again, I guess if you have a common name you'll get used to it...
133PawsforThought
132. I wish I could think of a book (originally in Swedish) with a character named Britt but I can't. The closest I can get is Britta from the Bullerby books (Astrid Lindgren) and maybe one or two people called Britt-Marie or Ann-Britt or something similar. Britt on its own isn't all that common in Sweden, it's usually Britta or a double name.
134Britt84
Yeah, I know... And I don't think it exists as a name in other languages... Though it is becoming more common here in the Netherlands. I always hated it when I was little because people were always asking me to spell it or calling me something else, but I'm ok with it now.
135gennyt
#132 I'm not going to be able to manage challenge 15 either, because my name, although it sounds ordinary, has an unusual spelling, Genny not Jenny. I did check on Common Knowledge and there are a few books listed on LT with characters called Genny - they all seem to be romances (why is it that having an unusual name has not led to a surfeit of romance in my life, in that case?) and as I don't own any of them and would not want to acquire any, I shall leave it at that! I did once see a shop in Venice called Genny - I had to take a photo of it as it was so weird to see it up there in lights above the shop. Must be weird too reading a book with your own name, indeed.
136lyzard
I, on the other hand, probably have about a million options (boring first name!), but none of them happen to be on my shortlist TBR. :)
Hmm...do I feel up for a re-read of Pride And Prejudice??
Hmm...do I feel up for a re-read of Pride And Prejudice??
138lindapanzo
#131 Cheli, I've been waiting for the T but it's always taken.
139paulstalder
Hej Mary, I got a question to Challenge #10: Applies only the country of origin or the country he lives now, too? If I think of my friend Paul - should I read an English book (where he comes from) or a Malaysian one (where he lives now)?
140Chatterbox
I'm having the same problem with Suzanne, Britt. I can't even think of a book in French that I have to hand. I could re-read The Scarlet Pimpernel, but Suzanne de Tournay isn't a major character, so I'm not sure it would count.
A Dutch friend of ours in Belgium called his eldest child by his second marriage Britta; a very pretty name, but Britt is less common. If I trip over anything, I'll let you know...
A Dutch friend of ours in Belgium called his eldest child by his second marriage Britta; a very pretty name, but Britt is less common. If I trip over anything, I'll let you know...
141lahochstetler
My name rarely shows up in books. I was shocked to be in the middle of one when that challenge was posted.
143PawsforThought
142. A hobbit is a human-like being. But The Hobbit does heavily feature a dragon, which is an animal - albeit a supernatural one so you could still go with challenge #25 if you wanted.
If you go by the full title (The Hobbit, or There and Back Again) you could also put it into challenge #5.
If you time it right you could use challenge #8 (either T or H would work, I believe).
If you have any friends from the UK you could use challenge #10.
That's all I can think of for now.
If you go by the full title (The Hobbit, or There and Back Again) you could also put it into challenge #5.
If you time it right you could use challenge #8 (either T or H would work, I believe).
If you have any friends from the UK you could use challenge #10.
That's all I can think of for now.
145PawsforThought
144. No problem. I can't put my own reads into very many categories so it's nice to be able to help others instead.
146bell7
>139 paulstalder: I'm going to say country of origin, unless someone has become a citizen of their adopted country, then you can use that one.
147fuzzi
@Britt84, I have an unusual name too, and it's German.
Don't think of your unusual name as being weird, just different. :)
Don't think of your unusual name as being weird, just different. :)
148humouress
I've finished Jane Austen's Lady Susan, but I can't think where to put it - unless it qualifies for 'Family Saga'?
149Chatterbox
Hey Mary...
I'm a citizen of two countries; while born in the US, I would say my roots are in Canada. Does that disqualify me from both countries' books? Do I pick one? Or if not, in which would you consider my roots to be? If I were forced to choose between being a citizen of one, I would choose Canada, but currently am flummoxed.
I'm a citizen of two countries; while born in the US, I would say my roots are in Canada. Does that disqualify me from both countries' books? Do I pick one? Or if not, in which would you consider my roots to be? If I were forced to choose between being a citizen of one, I would choose Canada, but currently am flummoxed.
151Citizenjoyce
>148 humouress: Humouress, I haven't read Lady Susan, but since you have, you be the judge. Jane Austen's other books have been family sagas, so I wouldn't be surprised if this one were too.
152humouress
>150 elkiedee:: I'm in the same boat as Suzanne; I'm a British citizen, but am now living in Australia. If that doesn't disqualify me (I haven't lived there in nearly 15 years), I've got loads of friends in the UK.
>151 Citizenjoyce:: There's definitely lots of family : Lady Susan (of the title) goes to stay with her brother-in-law's family (i.e. wife and children), the Vernons, where Mrs Vernon's brother and, later, Lady Susan's daughter join them. Not to mention letters to various other family members (parents etc).
ETA: I'll tell you what; since you'd accept the other Austens, it's similar in that way, so I'll put it in your challenge. In the meantime, I'd still like to hear the verdict from Mary.
So, unless anyone objects, or someone else reads it, and I can put it in as a shared read : Lady Susan goes into Challenge 18 - family saga.
Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions.
>151 Citizenjoyce:: There's definitely lots of family : Lady Susan (of the title) goes to stay with her brother-in-law's family (i.e. wife and children), the Vernons, where Mrs Vernon's brother and, later, Lady Susan's daughter join them. Not to mention letters to various other family members (parents etc).
ETA: I'll tell you what; since you'd accept the other Austens, it's similar in that way, so I'll put it in your challenge. In the meantime, I'd still like to hear the verdict from Mary.
So, unless anyone objects, or someone else reads it, and I can put it in as a shared read : Lady Susan goes into Challenge 18 - family saga.
Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions.
153bell7
>150 elkiedee: and 152 Hm, that's a tough one. My original wording was "sharing a country of origin," so I think I will let you two decide which one fits that definition. I don't think you should necessarily have to disqualify yourself from both countries unless it's a truly equal "country of origin" for you. And the same would go for the authors re: >139 paulstalder:, which country would the author/friend consider their country?
154lindapanzo
Wouldn't you know it? I've signed up for TIOLI challenges all over the place but the book I'm reading is one I can't seem to fit in any of them.
It's an autobiography by former NHL star, Jeremy Roenick. J.R.: My Life as the Most Outspoken, Fearless, and Hard-Hitting Man in Hockey
It's an autobiography by former NHL star, Jeremy Roenick. J.R.: My Life as the Most Outspoken, Fearless, and Hard-Hitting Man in Hockey
155klobrien2
I've been able to fit most of the books I have on my TBR into this month's TIOLI! I love this first immersion into the TIOLI; seeing what everyone is reading, and what I might add the books I'd already planned.
I've added The Ghost Map to challenge 3 (the word "Science" is in the subtitle) for those of us reading the book for this quarter's Science, Religion, and History read. Here is a link to the current thread, if you'd like more information: http://www.librarything.com/topic/146538
Karen O.
I've added The Ghost Map to challenge 3 (the word "Science" is in the subtitle) for those of us reading the book for this quarter's Science, Religion, and History read. Here is a link to the current thread, if you'd like more information: http://www.librarything.com/topic/146538
Karen O.
157Chatterbox
OK; Americans seem more likely to define me as Canadian than vice versa and I never thought of myself as anything but until I moved here when I was in my 30s, so for the purposes of this, I'll treat myself as Canadian. Which means I'm now looking for a home for 419 by Will Ferguson (a Canadian). Too bad I can't rename him O'Fergus...
158lindapanzo
#156 Thanks so much, Dejah. I hadn't noticed that.
159PawsforThought
157. There are a few celebrities with the last name Ferguson so you could put it into challenge #9. Craig Ferguson, for instance.
160Chatterbox
Ooooh, thanks, Paws! (Although I confess I have no idea who Craig Ferguson is...) I hadn't thought of that option. I think the only book I now have no home for is The Stone Carvers by Jane Urquhart, but I'll think about that later. I only dipped into it in January, and it won't kill me to wait until March to read it. I've got an extensive and very diverse cross-section of stuff lined up for February already, including the requisite Canadian content!
161PawsforThought
Craig Ferguson is known mainly as a chat show host, I believe.
162Chatterbox
There is always Sarah Ferguson... *eyes roll*
163PawsforThought
162. But she wouldn't qualify as an actress or entertainer, would she?
164AuntieClio
Craig Ferguson is also a stand up comedian as well as a late night talk show host. He's extremely funny.
165Chatterbox
OK, will go with Craig Ferguson! I suppose I do view Sarah Ferguson as an entertainer, albeit accidentally.
166lahochstetler
Well, she did do those weight watchers ads :)
167PawsforThought
"Entertaining" and "entertainer" is not the same thing! ;)
168AnneDC
Suzanne, you can wait for the S in Washington to roll around for The Stone Carvers. Or the T.
169DeltaQueen50
#165 - Suz, Craig Ferguson is a great choice, I've seem him in a couple of films as well.
170ccookie
My, as always, completely overly ambitious list for February!
1. Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7"
Infinite Jest – David Foster Wallace
2. Read a historical-fiction or non-fiction book about American History
Beloved – Toni Morrison
To Kill a Mockingbird – Harper Lee
4. Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title
✔The Hunt for Red October – Tom Clancy – ‘red’
The Redbreast – Jo Nesbo ‘red’
5. Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded)
✔ Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkeban – J. K. Rowling
The Hobbit, or There and Back Again – J. R. R. Tolkien
✔Sandman: Preludes and Nocturnes – Neil Gaiman
7. Read a book with an arthropod in the title or the author's name
✔ Elephant Winter – Kim Echlin - ‘ant’
9. Read a book whose author shares their last name with a movie star/entertainer
Mistress Shakespeare – Karen Harper (Valerie Harper)
Palindrome- Stuart Woods (James Woods)
Survivor in Death Nora Roberts / J/ D. Robb (Julia Roberts)
10. Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (but not your own)
Tigana – Guy Gavriel Kay – matched read
20. Read a book whose author is called "of" somewhere or something
Get Off the Unicorn – Anne McCaffrey
✔ The Sisters Brothers – Patrick deWitt
24. Read a book about music or musicians
Life – Keith Richards (The Rolling Stones)
1. Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7"
Infinite Jest – David Foster Wallace
2. Read a historical-fiction or non-fiction book about American History
Beloved – Toni Morrison
To Kill a Mockingbird – Harper Lee
4. Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title
✔The Hunt for Red October – Tom Clancy – ‘red’
The Redbreast – Jo Nesbo ‘red’
5. Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded)
✔ Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkeban – J. K. Rowling
The Hobbit, or There and Back Again – J. R. R. Tolkien
✔Sandman: Preludes and Nocturnes – Neil Gaiman
7. Read a book with an arthropod in the title or the author's name
✔ Elephant Winter – Kim Echlin - ‘ant’
9. Read a book whose author shares their last name with a movie star/entertainer
Mistress Shakespeare – Karen Harper (Valerie Harper)
Palindrome- Stuart Woods (James Woods)
Survivor in Death Nora Roberts / J/ D. Robb (Julia Roberts)
10. Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (but not your own)
Tigana – Guy Gavriel Kay – matched read
20. Read a book whose author is called "of" somewhere or something
Get Off the Unicorn – Anne McCaffrey
✔ The Sisters Brothers – Patrick deWitt
24. Read a book about music or musicians
Life – Keith Richards (The Rolling Stones)
171Matke
Many thanks to Paws for noticing the word "French" in The French Lieutenant's Woman. It was a D'oh! moment for me, but a helpful one.
172PawsforThought
171. You're most welcome!
173Esquiress
I'm new here, but I'm thinking I'm going to try challenge #5, the missing vowel challenge. I'm reading Jasper Fforde's Shades of Grey. I put myself onto the wiki...
Here's hoping I did everything right :)
Here's hoping I did everything right :)
174Morphidae
>173 Esquiress: Nope, Grey has a Y and therefore is excluded from the challenge.
175Chatterbox
#174 -- So, we can't read a book that has a Y in it, even it has only 4 of the five 'normal' vowels? I'm confused... I can see why Shades of Grey wouldn't fit, but if the title were "Minor Shades of Grey" -- a, e, i, o but no u -- would it still not work because it has a Y??
176cbl_tn
>174 Morphidae:, 175 I'm hesitant to speak for Cheli since #5 is her challenge, but I do notice that she has listed more than one book with a Y in the title under her own challenge.
177lyzard
I think it means four vowels and Y doesn't count - so you couldn't for example have a title including a, e, i and y. But a Y in its own right would be fine.
178thornton37814
I'm with lyzard. My interpretation is that she was only counting a, e, i, o, and u as vowels. One of those 5 must be missing.
179Esquiress
Bummer. Well, I tried. I'll have to find another one. For some reason I misread the challenge and thought that "Y" was excluded from the vowel count, so since there wasn't a "U" in the title, I was good.
I guess I'll be removing that from the wiki and then reading the rules better before I try again. Thanks to everyone for the feedback :)
I guess I'll be removing that from the wiki and then reading the rules better before I try again. Thanks to everyone for the feedback :)
180cbl_tn
I think Shades of Grey will work in challenge 5 if you include the subtitle. A, E, I, and O are all there and there's no U.
181Dejah_Thoris
Esquiress - I think your best bets to fit Shades of Grey are either #8 - the rolling Washington Challenge (you'll have to watch for the 'S' to come around again) or #10 the country of origin Challenge. Fforde was born in England, so if you have a friend from there, it'll work.
Welcome to the TIOLI Challenges!
ETA: I cross posted with Carrie - her idea will work, too.
Welcome to the TIOLI Challenges!
ETA: I cross posted with Carrie - her idea will work, too.
182Esquiress
>180 cbl_tn:, 181: I'm going to try to subtitle thing, since I don't have any friends in England and am not sure I can keep up with the Washington thing :)
Thanks, folks! I was bummed there for a little bit.
Thanks, folks! I was bummed there for a little bit.
185Chatterbox
Thanks for the clarification! One of the books I was thinking might squeeze in there (if I get to it this month) has a "y", and I was slightly concerned as I can't find another place to stick it!!
Every month there's a category that is a great place to put all the books I want to read, and this month there are two -- the vowels challenge & the fourth challenge, with all those fabulous words to pick from....
Every month there's a category that is a great place to put all the books I want to read, and this month there are two -- the vowels challenge & the fourth challenge, with all those fabulous words to pick from....
186SqueakyChu
> 182
Hi, Esquiress, and welcome to the TIOLI challenges. Sometimes we don't get them quite right (or even understand them). Since these are all in fun, we don't want you to get bummed out. Take that book, and move it to another challenge if you can. If not, you did right by selecting a different book that does fit a challenge. If you have questions about any of the challenges, don't' be afraid to post your questions here on this main thread. Enjoy!
Hi, Esquiress, and welcome to the TIOLI challenges. Sometimes we don't get them quite right (or even understand them). Since these are all in fun, we don't want you to get bummed out. Take that book, and move it to another challenge if you can. If not, you did right by selecting a different book that does fit a challenge. If you have questions about any of the challenges, don't' be afraid to post your questions here on this main thread. Enjoy!
187cyderry
Sorry I wasn't here to clarify. I'm having PC issues
Y doesn't count as a vowel in my challenge. So if you have A,E,I,O and no U that's okay
Y doesn't count as a vowel in my challenge. So if you have A,E,I,O and no U that's okay
188Esquiress
>186 SqueakyChu:: Thanks for the welcome!
>187 cyderry:: Thanks for clarifying, cyderry. We figured that if I included the subtitle "The Road to High Saffron," Shades of Grey would work out :)
>187 cyderry:: Thanks for clarifying, cyderry. We figured that if I included the subtitle "The Road to High Saffron," Shades of Grey would work out :)
189Esquiress
I've added myself to two more TIOLI challenges:
#3 - school subject - The Alloy of Law (we had a course at my HS called "Law and Anthropology")
#22 - mentioned in the top five of 2012 - The Knife of Never Letting Go
I wish "Washington" were up to "G" so I could add Graceling too :)
#3 - school subject - The Alloy of Law (we had a course at my HS called "Law and Anthropology")
#22 - mentioned in the top five of 2012 - The Knife of Never Letting Go
I wish "Washington" were up to "G" so I could add Graceling too :)
190paulstalder
I finished an introduction to Ephesians by William Kelly for sharing his last name with a movie star (Paul Kelly 1899-1956)
191inge87
I had jury duty today, and we didn't get called into the courtroom until after 1 pm, so I was able to finish two TIOLI books and start a third. I finished The Midnight Folk (#25) and You Will See Fire: A Search for Justice in Kenya (#1) and started an L. M. Montgomery short story anthology, At the Altar: Matrimonial Tales (#21).
Considering that I spent most of this time sitting on the courthouse lobby floor, I'm quite proud of myself.
Considering that I spent most of this time sitting on the courthouse lobby floor, I'm quite proud of myself.
192PawsforThought
I've just finished The Spy Who Came in From the Cold by John le Carré, which was my challenge #5 read (only 4 vowels).
Love the book - recommended to anyone who likes spy fiction or just generally being clueless as to what is actually going on.
Love the book - recommended to anyone who likes spy fiction or just generally being clueless as to what is actually going on.
193DeltaQueen50
#184 - Sorry I wasn't around much yesterday, Liz, but to answer your question the movie star/entertainer doesn't have to be contemporary. So entertainers like Charlie Chaplin, Mae West, Cary Grant etc. would all qualify.
195klobrien2
Phew! Found my last-page-number-contains-7 entry for Madeline's challenge! Divergent by Veronica Roth, which lots of people on LT have been talking about (and which has a 4-1/2 star rating on LT) is now listed on challenge #1.
Karen O.
Karen O.
198inge87
I finished At the Altar: Matrimonial Tales by L. M. Montgomery for TIOLI #21, Read a book with a Valentine's-themed cover. To prove that it fits the challenge, here's a picture:
200inge87
At the Altar is a book I re-read every now and then, when I need a bit of a lift (most of my L. M. Montgomery reading falls under this category). It's basically a collection of short stories involving courtship and marriage in small town Canada. The material is somewhat dated, but it's still a lot of fun.
201fuzzi
Most of LM Montgomery's works are fun, some more than others. I still love the original Anne of Green Gables and Anne of Avonlea, although the other books are enjoyable, too.
202lalbro
My TIOLIs for February ... Reflecting Some That I Brought Over From January.....
Challenge #5. Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded)
The Right-Hand Shore
Challenge # 8. Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington"
Alys, Always
Challenge # 11. Read a book that contains recipes or has the word "Recipe" in the title
At Home On The Range
The Smitten Kitchen Cookbook
Ripe: A Fresh Colorful Approach to Fruits and Vegetables
Challenge #18" Read a Family Saga
I think that one or both of these might fit in this challenge...although they might not be "saga-y" enough.
The Girl Who Fell To Earth
Please Look After Mom
I have four more on my to-read stack for February...but don't have a home for them. I suppose the first three could fit in Challenge #5...
The Storytelling Animal
Radioactive
Making Ideas Happen
The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Frye
Ah well, so much to read, so little time.
Challenge #5. Read a book whose title has only 4 of the regular 5 vowels (Y excluded)
The Right-Hand Shore
Challenge # 8. Read a book whose title that starts with the next letter available in the word "Washington"
Alys, Always
Challenge # 11. Read a book that contains recipes or has the word "Recipe" in the title
At Home On The Range
The Smitten Kitchen Cookbook
Ripe: A Fresh Colorful Approach to Fruits and Vegetables
Challenge #18" Read a Family Saga
I think that one or both of these might fit in this challenge...although they might not be "saga-y" enough.
The Girl Who Fell To Earth
Please Look After Mom
I have four more on my to-read stack for February...but don't have a home for them. I suppose the first three could fit in Challenge #5...
The Storytelling Animal
Radioactive
Making Ideas Happen
The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Frye
Ah well, so much to read, so little time.
203Esquiress
I finished Shades of Grey: The Road to High Saffron today, completing challenge #5 (the missing vowel challenge).
I am now beginning Graceling, which has 471 pages and qualifies for challenge #1 as a result!
I am now beginning Graceling, which has 471 pages and qualifies for challenge #1 as a result!
205fuzzi
I've not read The Blue Castle, yet...
206ccookie
Yesterday I finished my read of Elephant Winter by Kim Echlin.
I was looking for a book to meet the February RandomCat Challenge out of the 2013 Category Challenge Group, to read a book with a title, author, or character that brings to mind some of the weather events we typically experience during the month of February, and I found this.
BONUS, it also fit into our TIOLI challenge #7, to read a book with an arthropod in the title or the author's name - Elephant.
BONUS, it also fit my personal challenge to read books by Canadian authors. YAY!
Loved this book!
full review is here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/599445/reviews/93695248
I was looking for a book to meet the February RandomCat Challenge out of the 2013 Category Challenge Group, to read a book with a title, author, or character that brings to mind some of the weather events we typically experience during the month of February, and I found this.
BONUS, it also fit into our TIOLI challenge #7, to read a book with an arthropod in the title or the author's name - Elephant.
BONUS, it also fit my personal challenge to read books by Canadian authors. YAY!
Loved this book!
full review is here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/599445/reviews/93695248
207raidergirl3
Yay for Blue Castle love! and LM love as well.
Don't mean to brag, but I live on PEI... Of course, PEI in the winter is not quite the image fans of Anne will have in their head of PEI.
Don't mean to brag, but I live on PEI... Of course, PEI in the winter is not quite the image fans of Anne will have in their head of PEI.
208Dejah_Thoris
The Blue Castle is my favorite LMM, too. It's a great book.
209inge87
The Blue Castle is one of my favorites too.
I finished Icefall for TIOLI #8. It is a YA Norse coming of age thriller, in which everyone is stuck at a remote castle when the fjord freezes over. I really enjoyed growing up with Solveig, as she learned about the real world and the importance of the choices people make.
I finished Icefall for TIOLI #8. It is a YA Norse coming of age thriller, in which everyone is stuck at a remote castle when the fjord freezes over. I really enjoyed growing up with Solveig, as she learned about the real world and the importance of the choices people make.
210humouress
Put me on The Blue Castle and L.M. Montgomery lists, too.
I've finished The Little Prince, a classic by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, from the children's section of the library, but equally readable by adults. One for the Quickie Reads list.
ETA: I'm putting Comte de Saint Exupéry's book into challenge 20: Author being 'of' somewhere.
I've finished The Little Prince, a classic by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, from the children's section of the library, but equally readable by adults. One for the Quickie Reads list.
ETA: I'm putting Comte de Saint Exupéry's book into challenge 20: Author being 'of' somewhere.
211ccookie
Yesterday, I also finished listening to The Hunt for Red October.
I started this book in January for the RTT Challenge (read a book set during the Cold War); for the January RandomCAT (new to me author); and for the 75r's January TIOLI #6 (Read a Book That Has Been Downloaded onto Your Electronic Reader at Least Six Months Ago).
However, I did not finish it in January and so I carried it over into February for the 75r's Feb TIOLI #4 (Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title - “red”)
It was a fun 'read' and I found it fascinating and really enjoyable.
Full review is here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/828677/reviews
I started this book in January for the RTT Challenge (read a book set during the Cold War); for the January RandomCAT (new to me author); and for the 75r's January TIOLI #6 (Read a Book That Has Been Downloaded onto Your Electronic Reader at Least Six Months Ago).
However, I did not finish it in January and so I carried it over into February for the 75r's Feb TIOLI #4 (Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title - “red”)
It was a fun 'read' and I found it fascinating and really enjoyable.
Full review is here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/828677/reviews
212fuzzi
@ccookie, that's one of my favorites! If you liked Red October, try The Cardinal of the Kremlin, which also stars Jack Ryan. It's not one of Clancy's huge tomes that could serve equally well as a doorstop or a murder weapon... ;)
214majkia
When I was stationed at the Pentagon as a butter bar (2nd Lieutenant) everyone was reading Hunt for Red October. Not because they read a lot, those fighter jocks I worked with, but because everyone was trying to figure out who Clancy's contacts in the Pentagon were. He seemed to know some of our secrets. :)
215brenzi
I finished and REVIEWED Barbara Pym's delightful novel Excellent Women. That was for challenge to Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours (not your own).
Now I'm reading Galore by Michael Crummey for the challenge to read a family saga.
Now I'm reading Galore by Michael Crummey for the challenge to read a family saga.
216DeltaQueen50
Thanks to Linda's Challenge #17, I just finished a very good read. The Ghosts of Belfast was a great mix of crime, thriller and paranormal.
217Esquiress
I just finished Graceling, which, at 471 pages, was for challenge #1.
I'll be starting (again) on The Knife of Never Letting Go, which is for challenge #22.
I'm excited!
I'll be starting (again) on The Knife of Never Letting Go, which is for challenge #22.
I'm excited!
218brenzi
I finished and reviewed Michael Crummey's fabulous novel Galore for the challenge to read a family saga.
Now I'm reading A Buyer's Market for the challenge to Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7"
Now I'm reading A Buyer's Market for the challenge to Read a book whose last numbered page includes a "7"
219humouress
I missed one : I'm putting Piratica: Being a Daring Tale of a Singular Girl's Adventure Upon the High Seas into Challenge 25 : animal features significantly in the plot.
Every pirate has to have a parrot, after all.
Every pirate has to have a parrot, after all.
220AuntieClio
I think I've been a slacker in posting my reads here. Finished Mistress of the Vatican, challenge #5 - missing vowel. Also finished A Wasting Time, challenge #6 - read an unread book received from Member Giveaway.
Currently reading Custerology, challenge #2 - read an book about American history and Founding Mothers, challenge #9 - read a book written by someone who shares the last name of a celebrity.
Sadly, I broke my rule about not buying any books for the challenge. The remaining 4 books I want to read for February have not yet arrived. (Well, okay, not so sadly.)
Currently reading Custerology, challenge #2 - read an book about American history and Founding Mothers, challenge #9 - read a book written by someone who shares the last name of a celebrity.
Sadly, I broke my rule about not buying any books for the challenge. The remaining 4 books I want to read for February have not yet arrived. (Well, okay, not so sadly.)
221lalbro
citizenjoyce, would you consider Please Look After Mom to fit your family saga category? I just finished it -- and LOVED it -- and would like to TIOLI it :)!
222Chatterbox
I've just been reading a bunch of mediocre books -- I'm trying to reduce my TBR from the library, and since I opt to borrow books that I think risk being mediocre, well....
223inge87
I re-read The Blue Castle for Challenge #21. The cover, although nice, has little to do with the actual plot, since the hero is supposed to be an outdoorsman who doesn't shave and wears questionable clothes. I can all but promise you that he never wore anything resembling a sweater tied around his neck like the guy shown here.
It's a lovely book though, in spite of its cover.
I started reading Scarlet by Marissa Meyer, but think I'll need to re-read Cinder before I continue.
It's a lovely book though, in spite of its cover.
I started reading Scarlet by Marissa Meyer, but think I'll need to re-read Cinder before I continue.
224AuntieClio
Finished Custerology tonight. Counts as challenge #Challenge #2: Read a historical-fiction or non-fiction book about American History
It was very thought provoking in that it not only discussed Custer and the Battle of the Little Big Horn but also the way in which that battle has been remembered by enthusiasts of Custer (Elliott calls it Custerology).
It was very thought provoking in that it not only discussed Custer and the Battle of the Little Big Horn but also the way in which that battle has been remembered by enthusiasts of Custer (Elliott calls it Custerology).
225paulstalder
I finished Die Unvollendete, a story about a vocal quintett who went to Belgium for a singing session (challenge 24).
226fuzzi
On a whim, I reread All Creatures Great and Small, and even found a place for it in the TIOLI challenge (Challenge #10: Read a book whose author shares a country of origin with a friend of yours).
A wonderful book, a charmer, sweet, funny, sad, and more. You can find my review by clicking on the touchstone. :)
A wonderful book, a charmer, sweet, funny, sad, and more. You can find my review by clicking on the touchstone. :)
227countrylife
>lalbro (@221) - I also loved Please Look After Mom. My thought is that if you think it fits with the parameters as the challenge creator specified them, then you can list your read there. citizenjoyce, I would think that this book does fit your challenge - although it mainly focuses on the children of a lady who's gone missing, it delves into life of the lady - her marriage, her childhood, her parents and lineage and community history, and a bit on her grandchildren, as well.
228paulstalder
Finished a book (Leihen Sie uns Ihren Mann?) by Graham Greene in honor of Paul, the English exile
229lalbro
>227 countrylife:, countrylife - glad you think it would work and that you loved Please Look After Mom too. I'll put it into the list, and then if citizenjoyce disagrees with our assessment, I'm happy to move it on out.
230Citizenjoyce
>229 lalbro: lalbro, you're the best one to judge if a work is a family saga. I'll take your word for it.
232elkiedee
The sweater tied round the neck look must have been fashionable rather more recently than L M Montgomery's stories were written/set!
233lindapanzo
I love a good disaster book and my current one, Dark Tide about the great Boston molasses flood of 1919 is terrific.
The 2.3 million gallons of molasses that escaped the tank created a 15 feet tall tidal wave of molasses that moved at 35 mph.
Very interesting stuff.
This is for challenge #4--Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title.
The 2.3 million gallons of molasses that escaped the tank created a 15 feet tall tidal wave of molasses that moved at 35 mph.
Very interesting stuff.
This is for challenge #4--Read a book with a common SFF title word in the title.
234raidergirl3
>233 lindapanzo: Is that a real story? It sounds made-up, a molasses flood!
235PawsforThought
234. It's completely true. It may sound insane but it's all true. I believe the tank that held the molasses exploded and drenched the city but I can't remember the exact details. I'm definitely checking up Dark Tide - thanks for the tip, Linda!
236Citizenjoyce
I read about the molasses flood in another book, maybe Dennis Lehane's The Given Day. It sounds fantastic and even a little humorous, but was neither. The world is full of some mighty weird things.
237lindapanzo
During this WW1 era, they immediately blamed the Italian anarchists for the disaster but, in the end, I think it's going to be shown as corporate negligence. That along with the fact that, on a bitterly cold January day, a ship unloaded its cargo of warmer molasses into the tank which had some cold molasses already in it. That combination can't have been good.
They raced to build this 50-foot high tank and it oozed molasses almost from day 1.
I'm only halfway through the book so I can't really say what the cause was. Just a guess.
At our last LT meetup, I was telling the gang about this book and the consensus was "why didn't they just outrun it?" It does seem a bit humorous but 20 or so people died and the injuries to others were horrific.
I was telling my friend about it just now at lunch, as we gobbled up our free molten chocolate cake. Even 2.3 million gallons of chocolate suddenly unleashed would not be good.
They raced to build this 50-foot high tank and it oozed molasses almost from day 1.
I'm only halfway through the book so I can't really say what the cause was. Just a guess.
At our last LT meetup, I was telling the gang about this book and the consensus was "why didn't they just outrun it?" It does seem a bit humorous but 20 or so people died and the injuries to others were horrific.
I was telling my friend about it just now at lunch, as we gobbled up our free molten chocolate cake. Even 2.3 million gallons of chocolate suddenly unleashed would not be good.
238PawsforThought
237. Oh, I can't even imagine the injuries people must have suffered. Just knowing how much it hurts to burn your finger on molten sugar - ouch.
239lalbro
Thanks for the input citizenjoyce and countrylife! I know that The Right-Hand Shore might fit in the family saga group too...but I don't have another one to fill in for the 4 vowels except Y category!
240paulstalder
Finished Hundert Jahre Bobsport by Max Triet for the vowel challenge (no i)
241Citizenjoyce
OH, oh. I just went to move my name from 7 books to 8 books on the frog-o-meter, and I may have erased someone from the 7 books slot. So sorry. If you've read 7 books check and see that you're still there.
242Carmenere
I've enjoyed the comments for Dark Tide. My son always reads this day in history and when he brought that up yesterday we thought it very amusing, but now that I know lives were lost from this odd tragedy it takes on a different tone. I'm going to WL this one.
243SqueakyChu
> 241
I don't see anyone missing from 7 Books in the Frog-O-Meter, Joyce. I've looked through the history, and people are hopping upward just as they should be. No need to worry.
I don't see anyone missing from 7 Books in the Frog-O-Meter, Joyce. I've looked through the history, and people are hopping upward just as they should be. No need to worry.
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