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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #67

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1jasbro
Apr 9, 2015, 11:38 am

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.

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WHEN YOU POST:
-- Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that will help.
-- If you post multiple requests at once, please number each group. Examples:

“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
http://www.librarything.com/work/AAAAAAAA
http://www.librarything.com/work/BBBBBBBB
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ


-- Ask about sets of Works or Series pages, ask for opinions, or ask for help with specific languages, subjects, etc.; but please be brief.
-- Please do not give Search pages, Author pages, or groups of “possibles,” unless you have a specific question.
-- “Someone will be with you shortly.” Most requests are handled by our fellow LibraryThing Members, not by staff.
-- If you add to a post, please use “ETA:” or “EDIT:” to show what’s new.
-- Please note when a request is “DONE.”

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NOTES:
-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602 .
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .
-- For the related wiki page, please see: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining .
-- Please note Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for Contacting Members about Book Records at http://www.librarything.com/topic/30795#469616 ; if you contact another Member, please use Private Comment.
-- When this thread reaches 200 posts, please do not post here but start a new Thread. Threads under 200 posts load faster and are easier to navigate. Please copy these notes as post #1 of the new thread. Thank you.

2SaintSunniva
Apr 11, 2015, 12:28 am

From the previous thread

>192 MarthaJeanne:, >193 Lyndatrue: well, whaddya know...now that you reminded me...guess I can delete one of them, as really, I only have one copy.

Oh, and spell Fiction correctly.

Thanks!

3AndreasJ
Apr 11, 2015, 5:11 am

The first is a zero member edition that needs to be combined with the second:

https://www.librarything.com/work/11034115
https://www.librarything.com/work/4187053

4henkl
Apr 11, 2015, 7:22 am

5supersidvicious
Edited: Apr 13, 2015, 5:04 am

6AnnieMod
Apr 13, 2015, 5:13 am

>5 supersidvicious:
All combinations done.

7shmjay
Apr 13, 2015, 1:29 pm

Please combine:
"Made in the Middle Agwa"
http://www.librarything.com/work/13837562

into:
Made in the Middle Ages
http://www.librarything.com/work/118898

8Jarandel
Apr 13, 2015, 1:56 pm

9paulstalder
Apr 14, 2015, 5:17 pm

Help, I made a terrible mistake, I combined two different works into one
paulstalder combined Soul Flame Soul Flame by Barbara Wood, Soul Flame by Barbara Wood, Green City in the Sun by Barbara Wood (see work)
http://www.librarything.com/work/785428
is there an easy way to undo that? (to separate 'soul flame' and 'green city in the sun'?) or do I have to separate the 405 copies one by one? I am sorry for that, any hints?

10MarthaJeanne
Edited: Apr 14, 2015, 5:28 pm

You have to separate one edition at a time. Not quite one copy at a time, but still a big mess.

11paulstalder
Apr 14, 2015, 5:48 pm

*sigh**sigh* okay, I started undoing it, but I better got to bed now (it's midnight here)
no trouble with the German and English titles but the other languages I will have to check

13MarthaJeanne
Apr 15, 2015, 3:36 am

>12 Jarandel: I've combined the books.

14henkl
Apr 15, 2015, 4:18 am

>12 Jarandel: I've combined the authors.

15Schmerguls
Apr 16, 2015, 12:29 pm

I don't know how to do this but at this link is a book by Elizabeth G. Gleason:

https://www.librarything.com/work/6514663

i think it indicates that the book there is her only book. But I read her book Gasparo Contarini Venice, Rome, and Reform and have it posted on my site. Shouldn't her page indicate that she is also the author of that book?

16AnnieMod
Apr 16, 2015, 12:35 pm

>15 Schmerguls:
Links help a lot :)
http://www.librarything.com/work/2483578/book/12046249

It is a "z" vs "s" problem in the spelling of her first name - which caused the books to show up on different authors pages. I combined both versions so all should look fine now.

17MarthaJeanne
Edited: Apr 16, 2015, 2:51 pm

How is her name spelled?

http://www.librarything.com/author/gleasonelizabethg
http://www.librarything.com/author/gleasonelisabethg

It should be EliSabeth, and I have submitted the correction to Amazon.
Correction accepted.

18jjwilson61
Apr 16, 2015, 1:42 pm

The book now shows as being by both Elizabeth and Elisabeth, I think because both forms of the name are confirmed in the Other Author section. I'm not going to touch it because one name is last-name-first and the other is last-name-last and I don't remember which way is correct in that field.

19Schmerguls
Apr 16, 2015, 3:46 pm

Thanks, sorry to cause so much trouble. My record shows her first name as Elisabeth. If I entered it wrong, I apologize.

20Schmerguls
Apr 16, 2015, 3:58 pm

Thanks. I have her first name as Elisabeth. i did not realize the link I listed was for her with a z in her first name. Sorry not to have noted that.

21AnnieMod
Apr 16, 2015, 4:04 pm

>19 Schmerguls:, >20 Schmerguls:

No need to apologize - noone did anything wrong here. You won't believe I had been in the same situation - staring at the difference and not seeing it :)

22SaintSunniva
Apr 17, 2015, 1:11 am

What's the proper way to assure a work has its primary author listed first? The Christian classic, The Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom comes up with John Sherrill as the author. (John and Elizabeth Sherrill are credited on the cover.) http://www.librarything.com/work/2247/book/117761619

23SaintSunniva
Apr 17, 2015, 1:16 am

>22 SaintSunniva: I think I fixed my own problem: Sherrill was in the first place, now he's not. Yay.
http://www.librarything.com/work/2247/details/117761619

24MarthaJeanne
Apr 17, 2015, 1:51 am

I would remove ten Boom from the other authors on my copy if I were you.

25jasbro
Apr 17, 2015, 11:44 am

>24 MarthaJeanne: Why remove Corrie ten Boom? I understood she was a co-author on this one with John Sherrill and Elizabeth Sherrill (who are technically, identified as "Contributors").

26MarthaJeanne
Apr 17, 2015, 12:39 pm

Because she is the main author. She doesn't need to be entered twice.

27SaintSunniva
Apr 18, 2015, 11:02 am

>24 MarthaJeanne: - Thanks for pointing that out. I took care of it.

28bluepiano
Apr 19, 2015, 5:04 pm

Was going to link these two, but want to know whether there's some difference between them that I've overlooked:

http://www.librarything.com/work/2933919

http://www.librarything.com/work/12415577

29jasbro
Edited: Apr 19, 2015, 8:57 pm

>28 bluepiano: The Disambiguation Note on http://www.librarything.com/work/12415577 says, "This is a mixture of film adaptations and books; please do not combine with either. If you own a copy of this work, please consider specifying either the author (if it is a book) or the director (if it is a film)." I've separated out and recombined most of these records that evidently belonged elsewhere based on their titles alone, but the combined copies in the remaining record are indistinguishable and inseparable except on individual Members' records. I would not combine them further on LT. Thanks for asking!

30bluepiano
Apr 20, 2015, 5:05 am

And thanks for replying. Is it because one's VHS & the other DVD, then?

31jasbro
Apr 20, 2015, 7:45 am

>30 bluepiano: No, it's more that we know little or nothing about the individual copies that comprise this particular LT "Work."

I think the copies that are left here oughta be combined, either with Baum's original Oz, or with one or another of its adaptations. The problem is that, with nothing more than this bare minimum Title and Author (i.e., no "movie," "DVD," "VHS," "film," "View-Master," "adaptation," "abridged," ISBN, or other, similar detail), the LT Member who first separated/combined records from this page (and who added the Disambiguation Note) just couldn't tell what all's included. And I can't tell much, if anything more myself. As of my last check yesterday, the cover images were the only further information that I saw -- and they still suggested a wide mix of adaptions and formats.

FTR, a book, its translations, and audiobooks, are generally one & the same LT Work, format differences notwithstanding. Any adaption -- abridgement, retellng, drama, movie, even pop-up books -- are different LT Works, the product of somebody's further effort (apart from straight reading). As such, we want to catalog, or separate & recombine, to group like records for the same product as a single LT Work.

Please let us know of other questions. Thanks again!

32Lyndatrue
Apr 25, 2015, 7:11 pm

I'm stumped. Completely. I thought I had an easy case that would be a piece of cake to do on my own. I separated a few stray editions of a Lester del Rey book, including (at least I thought) mine, which were associated with The Sky is Falling, and moved them to the correct Double edition (being content to let the earlier Galaxy Double coexist with the later Ace Double, since their content was identical). The double novel even has a nice disambiguation notice:

This 1973 Ace Double contains both The Sky Is Falling and Badge of Infamy by Lester Del Rey. It was previously (1963) published by Magabook / Galaxy Publishing Corp.

The Sky is Falling / Badge of Infamy is the work in question. My own even says it matches in the Work Details:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1763548/summary/117957059

If I look at del Rey's works, it doesn't show that I have the book. I've recalculated author, title, and everything else I can think of, and I even hoped that somehow it would heal itself overnight. Nope. I even changed the "Lester Del Rey" to "Lester del Rey" in the vague hope that it would help (yes, I understand I was truly grasping at straws). Nope.

I really dread adding the old SF, sometimes.

I'm hoping that someone more experienced than I will be able to fix it, and to tell me what I did wrong. Thanks in advance, very much.

33PhaedraB
Apr 25, 2015, 7:22 pm

It shows on the work page that you are one of the members who own the book. I can't tell about the author page, though, without being logged into your account. Just for the heck of it I recalculated editions, so if that isn't something you tried before you can look to see if it made any different.

34Lyndatrue
Apr 25, 2015, 10:48 pm

>33 PhaedraB: Yes, I can see that I'm the most recent person to have added the book. I've hit about every recalculate button I could find, no matter how unrelated. I can't see any stray copies. I even looked in the related titles, just out of curiosity.

:-(

35JerryMmm
Apr 26, 2015, 4:39 am

So you see the work in the author's list on his page, but there is no checkmark?

Is it in a particular collection?

36Alendor
Edited: Apr 26, 2015, 8:47 am

Can someone combine this Danish edition with the primary edition, thanks?

https://www.librarything.com/work/15955453/

https://www.librarything.com/work/13066825

EDIT: I finally figured it out myself. I combined them through the author's page.

37Lyndatrue
Apr 26, 2015, 10:02 am

>35 JerryMmm: It's in my ordinary collection (Your Library) which is where all but one of my books are (in addition, sometimes, of the other collections). There isn't the green checkmark that says I have it, and even though the work itself says I was last to add it:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1763548

I don't have the option for "Book Details" on that book, if I select it from del Rey's books, even with my name being there. The book in my library has that same book id.

http://www.librarything.com/work/1763548/book/117957059

Here's an odd little note. It says 50 members have it, but I believe that it's 42. Some of that could be because a person has more than one copy (if I found the Ace Double, I might buy it, and that would look like two copies to LT). That's a pretty sizable discrepancy though.

I thought strongly about just deleting it, when I started to get frustrated, but I'd rather know what happened, and how to fix it. Every time I think I know what's going on with combining, I surprise myself with something like this.

I appreciate the help from you both, very much.

39DuncanHill
Apr 28, 2015, 11:30 am

@Clockpelter - done!

40DuncanHill
Edited: Apr 28, 2015, 4:38 pm

Some zero-copy editions to combine with main entries please.

#1 1" Sheet 184: Hastings

Main entry: https://www.librarything.com/work/8485932

Zero-copies: https://www.librarything.com/work/1103666 and https://www.librarything.com/work/8512884

#2 1" Sheet 183: Eastbourne

Main entry: https://www.librarything.com/work/8486121

Zero-copies: https://www.librarything.com/work/1115163

#3 1" Sheet 170: London South-West

Main entry: https://www.librarything.com/work/8486081

Zero-copies: https://www.librarything.com/work/8221007

41feldamundo
Apr 28, 2015, 6:09 pm

I can't un-alias this combination:
https://www.librarything.com/author/pollockjohn-6
John Pollock is not John C. Pollock.

Furthermore, the latter is linked to a Library Thing member page, but that member should be linked to this author page: https://www.librarything.com/author/pollockjohncrothers

Can anyone help?

42jasbro
Edited: Apr 28, 2015, 10:08 pm

>40 DuncanHill: Done!

>41 feldamundo: I'm not sure I understand the problem, or what you're trying to do. Has somebody already addressed this for us?

43feldamundo
Apr 28, 2015, 10:23 pm

>42 jasbro: Partially! The bad alias is removed. But the LT Author match has been corrupted by some combining. The LT author member linked to https://www.librarything.com/author/pollockjohn-6 should be linked to https://www.librarything.com/author/pollockjohncrothers

44MarthaJeanne
Edited: Apr 29, 2015, 2:00 am

I reported that to @Lorannen. It may take a day or two.

45DuncanHill
Apr 29, 2015, 7:24 am

@jasbro Many thanks.

46jasbro
Apr 29, 2015, 8:56 am

>43 feldamundo: I've now aliased pollockjohn-6 into pollockjohncrothers on the "John Pollock" disambiguation page. Does that take care of it?

47MarthaJeanne
Apr 29, 2015, 9:19 am

>46 jasbro: Undid that. No! those books are someone else entirely.

492wonderY
Apr 29, 2015, 10:33 am

50jasbro
Apr 29, 2015, 11:12 am

51feldamundo
Apr 29, 2015, 11:15 am

52MarthaJeanne
Apr 29, 2015, 11:26 am

See >44 MarthaJeanne:. It will get fixed.

53sparemethecensor
Apr 29, 2015, 12:33 pm

54Clockpelter
May 3, 2015, 8:21 am

Thanks!

55Robertgreaves
May 8, 2015, 8:22 am

This is beyond my combining skills:

The Everyman's Library edition of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight

Isolated Copy

Other Copies

Various editions seem to be mixed up together in what I have labelled "Other Copies" above, some having Sir Gawain and the Green Knight alone, others having it in various combinations with other poems.

56jasbro
May 8, 2015, 10:16 am

>55 Robertgreaves: I've combined the Isolated Copy with the Other Copies, but I'm not able to start a process of review, sorting, separating and recombining at this time.

Can anybody else take a look? Thanks to you all!

57vancouverdeb
May 11, 2015, 8:16 am

Okay, I'm not quite sure if you combine these two books, or what exactly one should do. These two books are the very same book, but the book was renamed a couple of years later. I know because I have read Patient Number 7 by Kurt Palka and looked the newly titled book, Clara , by Kurt Palka. Here is from amazon ca ( this a Canadian book ) . KURT PALKA was born and educated in Austria. He began his working life in Africa where he wrote for African Mirror and made wildlife films in Kenya and Tanzania. After moving to Canada he worked on international stories for CTV and GLOBAL TV, wrote for American and Canadian publications such as the Chronicle Herald and the Globe and Mail, and worked as a Senior Producer for the CBC. Clara (originally published in hardcover as Patient Number 7) is his fifth novel; it is a finalist for the Hammett Prize. Thanks for your help and here are the links to the identical books

Clara by Kurt Palka

https://www.librarything.com/work/14559022

is the same book and story as

Patient Number 7 by Kurt Palka

https://www.librarything.com/work/12434574

Thanks so much!

58vancouverdeb
Edited: May 11, 2015, 8:40 am

Could someone fix this. Leaving Tomorrow by David Bergen is listed as by an unknown David Bergen.

https://www.librarything.com/work/15335117 link to Leaving Tomorrow

However, Leaving Tomorrow is written by the same David Bergen who has written The Age of Hope by David Bergen and The Matter with Morris by David Bergen etc . David Bergen 1 is the author of Leaving Tomorrow.

Thanks!

Here the link to the two David Bergen's

https://www.librarything.com/author/bergendavid

61kuuderes_shadow
May 13, 2015, 2:10 pm

http://www.librarything.com/profile/flaeriefloss has a number of DVDs that have been combined with the book/s that they are adapted from (most of the top ones on this list: http://www.librarything.com/catalog/flaeriefloss/dvd). I've separated out some of these but I wouldn't even know how to find most of the others.

63henkl
May 13, 2015, 6:10 pm

64aileverte
May 13, 2015, 11:05 pm

Could you please help sorting out this author: there are some books under "Richard Weiner (unknown)" which need to be allocated to the other authors named Richard Weiner, but I don't see a way of doing it:

(1a) "The Game For Real" is by Richard Weiner (1) and should be combined with Hra dopravdy.
(1b) Assemblea generale is also by the Czech Richard Weiner, but this edition, judging by the cover, also contains a book by another Czech writer, Jakub Deml (check this out: http://www.poldilibri.it/pdf/Comunicato_stampa_Weiner-Deml.pdf)
(1c) Der leere Stuhl... is also by the Czech R.W.

(2) Mr. Nuts and Mr. Bolts is by another RW: the author should be separated out as Richard P. Weiner and is NOT the Czech Richard Weiner (1) nor Richard Weiner (3)

(4) Explorations in Subjectivity should be listed as EDITED by Richard Weiner and Raul A. Galoppe (as far as I can tell this is yet another Richard Weiner so should be separated out as another author until proven otherwise)

(5) Joe Montana's... is, as far as I can tell by yet another R.W., so a new author should be created here until proven otherwise

(6) News Bureaus might be by the same person as (5).

Thanks!

65Jarandel
May 14, 2015, 3:11 pm

>64 aileverte: Done, I think ?

Reattributing is done through the "edit the division" link in the right column

66jasbro
Edited: May 14, 2015, 4:45 pm

>61 kuuderes_shadow: Because each of us can only alter our own catalog records, I see no way to identify and separate this Member's DVD records from the corresponding books, then recombine the DVDs with other, similar movie records instead. If the Member were to change his or her cataloging (maybe to include "{DVD}" in applicable titles), we might have a basis to do something more. Otherwise, for the most part, their catalog entries for DVDs can only remain combined with the books as they currently are. I PM'd the Member to see if there's any interest, and whether I can help. Thank you.

67aileverte
May 14, 2015, 7:19 pm

Thanks, Jarandel! That's great - I couldn't figure out how to deal with the "(unknown)" author since there was no way of going into "his" data - but will look for the "edit the division" link next time!

68supersidvicious
Edited: May 15, 2015, 9:49 am

69Jarandel
May 15, 2015, 8:57 am

>68 supersidvicious: Seems to be done.

70bluepiano
Edited: May 16, 2015, 5:11 am

I'm guessing this is a combining problem: I created a link in 15th post here--http://www.librarything.com/topic/190772--that for some reason goes to a Harry Potter book. If I click on the link to Mobile on Butor's author page I'm taken to the proper book. What's gone wrong? Cheers.

Sorry that I'm not getting a link to the thread itself . . .

71MarthaJeanne
Edited: May 16, 2015, 7:12 am

This message has been deleted by its author.

72Jarandel
Edited: May 16, 2015, 1:46 pm

>70 bluepiano: This is not a combining problem.

You didn't select the right touchstone target when the default one didn't turn out to be what you wanted, as sometime happens.

Some people probably had "mobile" somewhere in their titles or data for the HP book and its popularity probably led to it being offered first despite the apparent lack of a relationship.

73MarthaJeanne
May 16, 2015, 2:14 pm

Mobile Yes, you need the third book on the list.

74DuncanHill
May 17, 2015, 6:36 am

Zero-copy to combine with main entry

Horseman's Manual, by R. S. Surtees

Zero-copy https://www.librarything.com/work/16009126/summary

Main entry https://www.librarything.com/work/16009124/summary

75henkl
May 17, 2015, 10:48 am

77Jarandel
May 18, 2015, 7:48 pm

>76 LolaWalser: Different issues actually it seems.

78PhaedraB
Edited: May 18, 2015, 11:21 pm

oops, my bad, wrong thread, never mind

79LolaWalser
May 18, 2015, 10:54 pm

>77 Jarandel:

Huh! Sorry, my mistake.

80Moomin_Mama
May 20, 2015, 5:17 am

Would somebody be able to separate out some books for me? I have tried but only managed to combine them all again:

The Yellow Wallpaper (Women Writers: Texts and Contexts) by Charlotte Perkins Gilman, Thomas L. Erskine and Connie L. Richards, ISBN 0-8135-1994-2

This edition contains the short story along with 200+ pages of literary criticism, but has been lumped in with other editions.

Many thanks

81jasbro
May 20, 2015, 12:53 pm

>80 Moomin_Mama: Done, maybe? See whether its better now. Thank you.

82Moomin_Mama
May 22, 2015, 7:35 pm

>81 jasbro: Everything was fine but it appears that someone has recombined them! I'm not sure why. Does that happen a lot?

83Jarandel
Edited: May 22, 2015, 8:26 pm

>80 Moomin_Mama: >81 jasbro: >82 Moomin_Mama: Didn't do it, but don't both ISBNs pertain to that "Women Writers : Texts and Contexts" version, indicating they both have the original text + criticism ?

84DuncanHill
May 22, 2015, 9:19 pm

Zero-copy edition to combine with main entry:

"Thin Ice" by Compton Mackenzie

Zero-copy https://www.librarything.com/work/16026931

Main entry https://www.librarything.com/work/1278655

Thank you.

85MarthaJeanne
May 23, 2015, 2:48 am

>83 Jarandel: It seems that Women writers is different from Women writers : Texts and Contexts. Both those ISBNs have a variety of titles attached to them. People have obviously changed the titles without checking the ISBNs.

Probably the best thing would be to separate anything without the full title.

86Collectorator
May 23, 2015, 3:09 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

87Moomin_Mama
Edited: May 23, 2015, 5:07 am

>83 Jarandel: >85 MarthaJeanne: I think all the 'Women Writers' books are the same - the other one (Texts and Contexts) is mine, I changed the title on my own copy as that is what it said on the cover. When added it was titled 'The Yellow Wallpaper (Women Writers)', like the others.

Wouldn't the books with the same ISBN as mine be the same text? And if separated again, would someone re-combine them?

89henkl
May 23, 2015, 5:57 am

90Ameise1
May 23, 2015, 5:58 am

>89 henkl: Thaks so much, Henk. Wishing you a lovely weekend.

91MarthaJeanne
May 23, 2015, 6:00 am

>87 Moomin_Mama: I did a search and worked on a few other works in the series http://www.librarything.com/series/Women%20Writers:%20Texts%20and%20Contexts

They all have this sort of issue. Well entered copies of works in the series will have ' or " around the story title, will include the subtitle, and will have the editor as main author.

Recombining is always a possibility, but the disanbiguation notice should help.

92henkl
May 23, 2015, 6:00 am

The same to you, Ameise.

93Moomin_Mama
May 23, 2015, 6:40 am

>91 MarthaJeanne: Thank you so much. Weirdly my copy stayed with the bulk but I deleted and re-added it, and it's gone where it's supposed to. Fingers crossed they are left that way, as well as the others in the series.

94MarthaJeanne
May 23, 2015, 8:40 am

>93 Moomin_Mama: It's awfully hard to get everything on a long list of editions.

95Moomin_Mama
May 23, 2015, 8:59 am

>94 MarthaJeanne: It is very much appreciated :)

96bluepiano
May 23, 2015, 9:23 am

Could someone combine http://www.librarything.com/work/12954468 with http://www.librarything.com/work/15155874? I've been tinkering about trying to do so with no luck at all. Cheers.

97Jarandel
May 23, 2015, 1:31 pm

98JoshRedman
May 23, 2015, 5:20 pm

Help please.

Apologies for making what is probably a rookie mistake, but I've tried adding two short story collections, but they keep becoming merged together with other works of the same name. This happened during an import from Goodreads, so I went back in, removed all the erroneous fields and then started those two book from new as a manual adding of a book, but even though I put in its ISBN, LT is still merging them in with the similar named books.

https://www.librarything.com/work/1818/

Keeps merging in with the Anne Rockwell book, but the short story collection edited by David Vernon is a very different book.

Similarly, another one edited by David Vernon is getting lumped in with a non-fiction book about Cocktails:

https://www.librarything.com/work/6907863

Huge apologies for getting in a mess with this. I will go back and put everything right, but I need a pointer on how to ensure a new work is entered as a whole new indepdendent work and I don't know what I am doing wrong.

Huge thanks for any help,
Josh.

99MarthaJeanne
Edited: May 23, 2015, 6:40 pm

>98 JoshRedman: I've separated Cocktails https://www.librarything.com/work/16028937/editions
(There is a 0 edition that needs to be combined with it. https://www.librarything.com/work/16028943/editions)

and Valentine's Day https://www.librarything.com/work/16028939/summary

This is very minor mess, and easy to deal with. Probably easier to correct than prevent.

100JoshRedman
Edited: May 24, 2015, 9:55 am

Thank you for sorting that out, MarthaJeanne. Very kind of you and much appreciated.

Josh.

101jasbro
May 24, 2015, 8:24 pm

>99 MarthaJeanne: Done; thank you!

102Taphophile13
May 28, 2015, 2:08 pm

Could someone combine the 0 copy of The Petticoat Affair: Manners, Mutiny, and Sex in Andrew Jackson's White House by John F. Marszalek https://www.librarything.com/work/505594 with
https://www.librarything.com/work/16039807?
For some reason it isn't working for me.
Thank you.

103henkl
May 28, 2015, 2:35 pm

105jasbro
May 29, 2015, 7:05 am

>104 supersidvicious: Why would we combine two unrelated Series?

106supersidvicious
Edited: May 29, 2015, 3:22 pm

>105 jasbro: no need to combine two unrelated Series. 2 different tasks, combine duplicate works in each series

107jasbro
May 29, 2015, 4:36 pm

>106 supersidvicious: Thanks for clarifying that. Looks like they're done now regardless ...

108DuncanHill
May 31, 2015, 8:15 pm

Zero copy to combine with main entry please.

Title: 1" Sheet 188: Torquay

Zero copy:

https://www.librarything.com/work/16046842

Main entry:

https://www.librarything.com/work/8661611

109Collectorator
Jun 1, 2015, 1:36 am

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110LolaWalser
Jun 1, 2015, 5:34 pm

If anyone is looking for a little project (I'm on a slow computer...), it would be appreciated if someone were to separate the two versions of Nijinsky's diary:

http://www.librarything.com/work/51040/editions/118845474

There is the older version edited by Romola Nijinsky, and the 1999 unexpurgated edition edited by Joan Acocella.

Thanks in advance to any volunteers...

111DuncanHill
Jun 1, 2015, 6:34 pm

>109 Collectorator: Thanks

Another one:

Victorian Ordnance Survey: Sheet No. 18 - Beverley

Main entry: https://www.librarything.com/work/16050052

Zero copy:

https://www.librarything.com/work/16050051

112Collectorator
Jun 2, 2015, 12:26 am

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113SimoneA
Jun 2, 2015, 4:03 am

>110 LolaWalser: I've separated all the obvious unexpurgated editions (by title and ISBN). If it still needs more work, let me know!

114LolaWalser
Jun 2, 2015, 9:24 am

Yay, thanks!

115Schmerguls
Edited: Jun 7, 2015, 2:48 pm

These should be combined, I think:

http://www.librarything.com/work/4288559

http://www.librarything.com/work/16065395/book/118996841

One is in German and the other in English but they should be combined, not? They are the same book

116Taphophile13
Jun 7, 2015, 2:47 pm

117Schmerguls
Jun 7, 2015, 2:49 pm

That was fast. Thanks, Taphophile

120MarthaJeanne
Jun 7, 2015, 4:19 pm

121henkl
Jun 7, 2015, 4:19 pm

122henkl
Jun 7, 2015, 4:20 pm

>120 MarthaJeanne: Good teamwork

123MarthaJeanne
Jun 7, 2015, 4:21 pm

>122 henkl: I'm glad I started with the second one!

125MarthaJeanne
Jun 7, 2015, 4:55 pm

126sparemethecensor
Jun 7, 2015, 9:06 pm

Does anyone here read German? Could you please investigate whether Still Alice and Still Alice: Mein Leben ohne Gestern. Roman should be combined?

I am inclined to think yes, but I defer to German readers.

This is the page where both works appear:

https://www.librarything.com/author/genovalisa

128Taphophile13
Edited: Jun 7, 2015, 9:15 pm

>126 sparemethecensor:
I think it says Still Alice: my life without yesterday Novel. Only one member has it and the cover https://www.librarything.com/work/16047525/covers refers to the recent movie so I think they are the same.

129MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jun 8, 2015, 5:34 am

>126 sparemethecensor: Combined. You can check that fairly easily for books with ISBN by going to WorldCat. Translations usually have the original title under 'other titles'

>127 sparemethecensor: I combined one of the others into the main work. The author was mispelled but obviouly meant to be the same book. Look at the cover for https://www.librarything.com/work/15949241. This is not the novel. The novel's author is not one of the many people mentioned. It looks like it is a compilation of Wikipedia articles that relate in some way to the novel. It's also only 66 pages long.

132henkl
Jun 16, 2015, 9:48 am

133SaintSunniva
Jun 18, 2015, 4:27 pm

These are the same works, so I think they should be combined, right? Have at it!
http://www.librarything.com/work/15789424
http://www.librarything.com/work/16001563

Thank you.

134MarthaJeanne
Jun 18, 2015, 4:32 pm

135DuncanHill
Jun 20, 2015, 12:14 pm

136Collectorator
Jun 20, 2015, 12:59 pm

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137DuncanHill
Jun 20, 2015, 1:15 pm

138Collectorator
Jun 20, 2015, 1:17 pm

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139DuncanHill
Jun 20, 2015, 1:43 pm

140DuncanHill
Jun 20, 2015, 1:47 pm

And another.

1" Sheet 142: Hereford

Zero copy: https://www.librarything.com/work/15148233

Main entry: https://www.librarything.com/work/11617099

141Collectorator
Jun 20, 2015, 2:23 pm

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142DuncanHill
Jun 20, 2015, 5:59 pm

143henkl
Jun 20, 2015, 6:03 pm

144DuncanHill
Jun 20, 2015, 6:20 pm

145jasbro
Jun 20, 2015, 9:24 pm

>144 DuncanHill: What Collectorator & henkl said ... done. (With added thanks!)

146DuncanHill
Jun 21, 2015, 5:35 am

And thank you @henkl and @jasbro

147henkl
Jun 21, 2015, 2:38 pm

>146 DuncanHill: My pleasure.

148sandeepkm
Jun 23, 2015, 10:03 am

Please combine following works:

#1 (main): https://www.librarything.com/work/1171412
#2: https://www.librarything.com/work/15665663
#3: https://www.librarything.com/work/16108553

They do not show up on editions > Combine/Separate works page.
They all are same book "Panchatantra" by "Vishnu Sharma".

149DuncanHill
Jun 23, 2015, 10:31 am

@sandeepk77 - done

150shmjay
Jun 23, 2015, 10:34 pm

I tried to combine E.J. Copperman with one of the persons named Jeffrey Cohen (namely http://www.librarything.com/author/cohenjeffrey-1 ) but it seems I've combined him with the generic Jeffrey Cohen. Did I do something wrong, or is this just how it works?

151PhaedraB
Jun 23, 2015, 11:08 pm

>150 shmjay: That is how it works. You can't combine anything with a sub-author.

What you want to do is go to the main disambiguation page, find the link on the left for improving the split then alias Jeffery Cohen 1 to the EJ Copperman page. Although, if Copperman is a nom de plume, it's a less than ideal solution.

152jasbro
Edited: Jun 24, 2015, 12:23 pm

>150 shmjay: If Copperman is a nom de plume, a better (but more involved) solution may be to head in the opposite direction: rather than alias a Cohen into Copperman, alias Copperman into the generic Jeffrey Cohen, as you did; then assign the Copperman Works to a separate Cohen Author (which may or may not already be an option) on the disambiguation page. Just a thought ... Thanks!

153DuncanHill
Jun 24, 2015, 12:36 pm

Zero copy to combine with main entry please.

1982 Yearbook of Astronomy

Zero copy:

https://www.librarything.com/work/16112118

Main entry:

https://www.librarything.com/work/16112116

154DuncanHill
Jun 24, 2015, 12:38 pm

155DuncanHill
Jun 24, 2015, 12:39 pm

156DuncanHill
Jun 24, 2015, 12:50 pm

157Collectorator
Jun 24, 2015, 1:08 pm

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158DuncanHill
Jun 24, 2015, 1:13 pm

Many thanks @Collectorator

160henkl
Jun 25, 2015, 4:43 pm

161DuncanHill
Jun 26, 2015, 12:51 pm

The Gentlest Art And The Second Post, by E. V. Lucas

Zero copy:

https://www.librarything.com/work/16120840

Main entry:

https://www.librarything.com/work/16120837

162Collectorator
Jun 26, 2015, 1:00 pm

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163DuncanHill
Jun 26, 2015, 1:01 pm

164sandeepkm
Jun 27, 2015, 6:01 am

165jasbro
Edited: Jun 27, 2015, 9:39 am

>164 sandeepkm: Do we know that the same tales are included in all these editions, or might the selection of tales differ? Unless they're the same, I think LT's practice and preference is to distinguish between any editions having different content, instead making Work-to -Work connections as we can. Thank you!

166Jarandel
Edited: Jun 27, 2015, 9:48 am

>164 sandeepkm: I'd be cautious with those.

Some of them look like illustrated children's versions, where illustrations from different artists could be a dominant component enough to be considered as different works, and where the texts would likely be adapted enough for them be considered different from each other.

Even the Francis Burton seems quite freely adapted rather than a direct translation.

168henkl
Jun 28, 2015, 1:06 pm

169LolaWalser
Jun 28, 2015, 5:44 pm

Aack! Anyone looking for a couple hours meditative distraction? :)

Marx's Capital seems a capital mess:

http://www.librarything.com/work/142916/editions/119538341

170PhaedraB
Jun 28, 2015, 7:43 pm

>169 LolaWalser: The last time I took on a "couple of hours" project I was on it for three months. This time I'll pass.

171LolaWalser
Jun 28, 2015, 7:54 pm

Can't blame you!

172sandeepkm
Edited: Jun 29, 2015, 8:44 am

>166 Jarandel: Jarandel, jasbro

Yes. These editions are quite different... as you put it "freely adapted" as comics, English translation, abridged etc. There are sufficient question on the exact number and contents stories of original work... coming up with most authentic edition itself is probably a big enough research project :-)

Fine with me if it make more sense to keep them separate edition. I will check the edition combining guidelines later.

1732wonderY
Jun 29, 2015, 9:13 am

>164 sandeepkm: and 172

I took on Wind in the Willows as a project last year, and ordered all sorts of versions from my library consortium to be able to compare them in person. If you've got a deep library system, and lots of time, and the inclination....

174DuncanHill
Edited: Jun 29, 2015, 2:21 pm

The Crown, the Land and the Squatter 1835-1840

Zero copy editions:

http://www.librarything.com/work/16129502

http://www.librarything.com/work/16129501

Main entry:

http://www.librarything.com/work/15861453/editions

Edited by me: Scrub that - done!

175Gizmex
Jun 30, 2015, 11:41 am

Please help me. I don't know hot to fix it.
This autor https://pl.librarything.com/author/kulpapiotr has 3 works here, but only 2 of them are visible. 3rd one is here https://pl.librarything.com/author/37007448 the same author name I gave, but his name was recorded as 37007448 not kulpapiotr
Thanks in advance :)

1772wonderY
Edited: Jun 30, 2015, 11:57 am

>175 Gizmex: I fixed. It was strangely difficult.

178Gizmex
Jun 30, 2015, 12:08 pm

Thanks a lot!! :)

179Gizmex
Jun 30, 2015, 12:21 pm

If You don't mind I have one more (last) quesiotn. How to enter co-authors to make work visible on their page.
Example here https://pl.librarything.com/work/15951772/workdetails/117942525 I entered them all as authors, but when I click on one of them (example https://pl.librarything.com/author/henelukasz)this work is not visible on their pages.

180jjwilson61
Jun 30, 2015, 12:26 pm

It looks like you only entered them in your catalog. You still need to into the Other Authors section of the work page and confirm them there. I think you should make them Main Authors that apply to all editions.

181Gizmex
Jun 30, 2015, 1:13 pm

Found it. Many thanks!!

182bluepiano
Edited: Jul 1, 2015, 2:48 pm

Today I entered 4 separate issues of this magazine: Spector Cut + Paste. The plus sign showed up in none of the titles till I went back & edited. Now, I checked on the series listing here http://www.librarything.com/series/Spector+Cut+%252B+Paste to make sure it was in order. It isn't. I thought I'd separate the 2 editions listed & delete the inaccurate one but the 'separate book' page shows both editions without the plus sign. What's the best way to get the series page put to rights? Cheers.

(sorry--I see I can use touchstone only with inaccurate title: Spector Cut Paste issue 1. )

183jjwilson61
Jul 1, 2015, 3:22 pm

I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but I bet the + character in the series name causes problems.

184bluepiano
Edited: Jul 1, 2015, 4:50 pm

Almost certainly, or rather the lack of it. I'm wondering whether what seems to be a blocking of its use in a book's title should be reported as a bug--? What I'm trying to do is to get a series page with the proper magazine title so that those four issues will be listed on it. (If the character had been accepted the first time I entered the title, there wouldn't have been this problem with the series being based upon a wrong title.)

185starfishian
Jul 1, 2015, 5:13 pm

This looks like a member wanted to add an author, but added him as a book. Could it be fixed or deleted?

http://www.librarything.com/work/6248249

186henkl
Jul 1, 2015, 5:20 pm

No, you cannot change or delete anything added by a person to his library.

187MarthaJeanne
Jul 1, 2015, 6:33 pm

There is one member who does this. There are lots of examples.

188DuncanHill
Jul 2, 2015, 7:21 am

189MarthaJeanne
Jul 2, 2015, 7:35 am

>188 DuncanHill: Yuck! Not me, thank you.

190jasbro
Jul 2, 2015, 8:22 am

>179 Gizmex: Please don't ever hesitate to ask another (last) question. As long as it's on-topic, that's the point of the this thread. Thanks for your interest & participation!

191jasbro
Edited: Jul 2, 2015, 8:31 am

>188 DuncanHill: Hoo-wee! That's one for the ages! Honestly, I get that they probably should be separated, but have no idea of the Work(s) involved or whether and how they should then be recombined or reorganized. Series? Contained in? With knowledgeable guidance of where we're headed with it, I'd gladly help. Otherwise, I'd best leave it to others who know better ...

192MarthaJeanne
Jul 2, 2015, 8:34 am

They are all owned by the same member, who is still active. I'll ask about it.

193Lyndatrue
Jul 2, 2015, 8:45 am

Those entries referenced in >188 DuncanHill: are all separate editions of different areas (I'm sure that you all knew that, but I'm a master of stating the obvious). They won't have similar information in them, and even though they make look similar to the auto combine on LT, they are unique. It's like combining all the volumes of an encyclopedia into one volume, or (as a better example) the historical collection by Will Durant and Ariel Durant into one work.

It's possible that there are multiple copies of a particular work, but I would think that only someone with a background in genealogical research should undertake this (and NO, I'm not volunteering).

Personally, I'd quietly tiptoe away from it.

194MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jul 2, 2015, 9:31 am

They belong to Cairns & District Family History Society (@cdfhs)

The message I left there is:

This work http://www.librarything.com/work/15802043/editions has come to the attention of the Combiners Group. All the various editions seem to belong to you. Should they all be separated out? Are you interested in creating one or more series to organize them? Or would you rather just leave this bundle alone?

Have you looked at your work multiples page? http://www.librarything.com/profile/cdfhs/memes/workdups some of these look right, but others probably also could use separating. I'm willing to do some of the work, but it would be a lot easier if someone who knows/can look at the books were involved.


So if I were to take it on, it would only be with the participation of the genealogy people who own them.

195Lyndatrue
Jul 2, 2015, 10:03 am

>194 MarthaJeanne: They have a truly interesting library. Life is too short. I wish I lived in Australia, right now; I'd go visiting. I'll be interested in the outcome of this, no matter how it turns out.

196LolaWalser
Jul 4, 2015, 7:27 pm

Hello, would you please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1428909

and

http://www.librarything.com/work/12009410

Thanks in advance.

197Taphophile13
Jul 4, 2015, 7:30 pm

198smcwl
Jul 6, 2015, 12:20 am

Please combine

zero-copy of Fifty Years
http://www.librarything.com/work/16150847

with main work Fifty Years
http://www.librarything.com/work/1080583

Thank you

199henkl
Jul 6, 2015, 2:13 am

201henkl
Jul 6, 2015, 8:57 am

202jasbro
Jul 6, 2015, 12:36 pm

With that, this thread is now CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #68 -- http://www.librarything.com/topic/192981. Thank you!

203Schmerguls
Jul 7, 2015, 6:28 pm

I think this should be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1705962

204flaeriefloss
Apr 30, 2016, 11:46 pm

Sorry for such late action. I've gone in and corrected the cataloguing to reflect the DVD record appropriately, cheers, flaeriefloss