Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #89
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1jasbro
THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.
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WHEN YOU POST:
-- Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that will help.
-- If you post multiple requests at once, please number each group. Examples:
“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
http://www.librarything.com/work/AAAAAAAA
http://www.librarything.com/work/BBBBBBBB
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ ”
-- Ask about sets of Works or Series pages, ask for opinions, or ask for help with specific languages, subjects, etc.; but please be brief.
-- Please do not give Search pages, Author pages, or groups of “possibles,” unless you have a specific question.
-- “Someone will be with you shortly.” Most requests are handled by our fellow LibraryThing Members, not by staff.
-- If you add to a post, please use “ETA:” or “EDIT:” to show what’s new.
-- Please note when a request is “DONE.”
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NOTES:
-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: "Blocks to combining that affect large numbers of copies (Sorry, too much love!) #5," http://www.librarything.com/topic/361495.
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .
-- For the related wiki page, please see: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Book_combining .
-- Please note Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for Contacting Members about Book Records at http://www.librarything.com/topic/30795#469616 ; if you contact another Member, please use Private Comment.
-- When this thread reaches 200 posts, please do not post here but start a new Thread. Threads under 200 posts load faster and are easier to navigate. Please copy these notes as post #1 of the new thread. Thank you.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.
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WHEN YOU POST:
-- Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that will help.
-- If you post multiple requests at once, please number each group. Examples:
“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
http://www.librarything.com/work/AAAAAAAA
http://www.librarything.com/work/BBBBBBBB
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ ”
-- Ask about sets of Works or Series pages, ask for opinions, or ask for help with specific languages, subjects, etc.; but please be brief.
-- Please do not give Search pages, Author pages, or groups of “possibles,” unless you have a specific question.
-- “Someone will be with you shortly.” Most requests are handled by our fellow LibraryThing Members, not by staff.
-- If you add to a post, please use “ETA:” or “EDIT:” to show what’s new.
-- Please note when a request is “DONE.”
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NOTES:
-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: "Blocks to combining that affect large numbers of copies (Sorry, too much love!) #5," http://www.librarything.com/topic/361495.
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .
-- For the related wiki page, please see: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Book_combining .
-- Please note Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for Contacting Members about Book Records at http://www.librarything.com/topic/30795#469616 ; if you contact another Member, please use Private Comment.
-- When this thread reaches 200 posts, please do not post here but start a new Thread. Threads under 200 posts load faster and are easier to navigate. Please copy these notes as post #1 of the new thread. Thank you.
2Cathery
The 4 works on the History of Corn Milling are by Robert Bennett and John Elton, not the musician Elton John. I used to know how to separate these but am stymied by the recent changes, sorry.
Elton John
https://www.librarything.com/author/johnelton
https://www.librarything.com/work/28667807/t/History-of-Corn-Milling-Some-Feudal...
https://www.librarything.com/work/28667801/t/History-of-Corn-Milling-Handstones-...
https://www.librarything.com/work/28667805/t/History-of-Corn-Milling-Feudal-Laws...
https://www.librarything.com/work/28667802/t/History-of-Corn-Milling-Watermills-...
Elton John
https://www.librarything.com/author/johnelton
https://www.librarything.com/work/28667807/t/History-of-Corn-Milling-Some-Feudal...
https://www.librarything.com/work/28667801/t/History-of-Corn-Milling-Handstones-...
https://www.librarything.com/work/28667805/t/History-of-Corn-Milling-Feudal-Laws...
https://www.librarything.com/work/28667802/t/History-of-Corn-Milling-Watermills-...
3AnnieMod
>2 Cathery: OK - I think https://www.librarything.com/author/eltonjohn is the best we can do :)
5Buchmerkur
hello dear rescuers, I got into trouble trying to add two issues of The New York Review of Books, namely 72.1 and 72.2. Couldn't fix it on the workbench. I just manually added 72.3 to 'My books' and it automatically indicates under Series 'The New York Review of Books (72.1)'. Probably now there are three isues that need auseinanderklamüsern - to be sorted out. Sorry for the trouble, but please help.
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/58864/The-New-York-Review-of-Books
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/58864/The-New-York-Review-of-Books
6SandraArdnas
>5 Buchmerkur: Did somebody help already? I can't find the copies with 72.1 and 72.2 in the title
ETA: Found them separated and just added them to the series. Is it OK now?
ETA: Found them separated and just added them to the series. Is it OK now?
7Buchmerkur
>6 SandraArdnas: wonderful. Thank you. How do I add them without clumping them together?
(I first add the issues manually, then go to : Overview: Series and search for: New York Review of Books. How did they end up under the wrong number?)
(I first add the issues manually, then go to : Overview: Series and search for: New York Review of Books. How did they end up under the wrong number?)
8MarthaJeanne
>7 Buchmerkur: You don't. The Autocombiner only looks at the first 20 characters. So you add them, and then separate them from where they ended up and combine them in where they belong. Separations are easy on the editions page.
9Buchmerkur
>8 MarthaJeanne: thank you. I will give it a try next time.
10leennnadine
Having some trouble sorting this one out.
The Hebridean Baker: The Scottish Cookbook byCoinneach MacLeod https://www.librarything.com/work/28094251/editions/282606053
has gotten combined with The Hebridean Baker: Recipes and Wee Stories from the Scottish Islands by Coinneach MacLeod
and I have not been able to fix it.
The Hebridean Baker: The Scottish Cookbook byCoinneach MacLeod https://www.librarything.com/work/28094251/editions/282606053
has gotten combined with The Hebridean Baker: Recipes and Wee Stories from the Scottish Islands by Coinneach MacLeod
and I have not been able to fix it.
11AranelST
>10 leennnadine: I think I've got them sorted. I'll put them into a series, which may or may not help in the future.
12leennnadine
>11 AranelST: Thanks! I did try the canonical title route, but that didn't seem to help, possibly because of the twenty character thing.
13MarthaJeanne
If there is a bad combination, canonical title only muddies the waters.
14AranelST
>12 leennnadine: No problem! Sometimes it just needs a fresh pair of eyes.
15I-_-I
Having a hard time undividing the page for Daniel C. Dennett. When i try to assign the works to a single author i get this message: "To save as a single author, you must first remove all assignments below and save." But there don't appear to be any work assignments on the page.
Looks like this page was originally divided because there's a Daniel C. Dennett Jr. and at least one other Daniel Dennett. But over time those other authors got their own pages and now all the works on the page for Daniel C. Dennett are by American philosopher Daniel Clement Dennett III (1942-2024).
If someone is able to figure out how to undivide the page, that's great... or if there's a better way to deal with all this, please go for it. Either way, thanks in advance.
Looks like this page was originally divided because there's a Daniel C. Dennett Jr. and at least one other Daniel Dennett. But over time those other authors got their own pages and now all the works on the page for Daniel C. Dennett are by American philosopher Daniel Clement Dennett III (1942-2024).
If someone is able to figure out how to undivide the page, that's great... or if there's a better way to deal with all this, please go for it. Either way, thanks in advance.
17I-_-I
>16 MarthaJeanne: Ah - thank you :)
18Nevov
>15 I-_-I:
I've sorted this one now, found all the past assignments that hadn't been cleared that were blocking the page from going back into undivided. Hopefully the bug report linked to will make doing that less of a chore at some point in the future.
I've sorted this one now, found all the past assignments that hadn't been cleared that were blocking the page from going back into undivided. Hopefully the bug report linked to will make doing that less of a chore at some point in the future.
19I-_-I
>18 Nevov: Amazing, thanks :)
20Buchmerkur
Sorry, I still haven't grasped the art of combining. Could somebody do this for the German edition of Olof Lagercrantz, Strindberg und ich with the work August Strindberg? If I add the German translation to the workbench it shows Eftertankar om Strindberg. It befuddles me. Thank you for your patience.
22Buchmerkur
>21 MarthaJeanne: Merci vielmals
23al.vick
Too copies of The Iron King by Maurice Druon. I don't see that they are different in any way.
https://www.librarything.com/work/2843309/t/The-Iron-King
https://www.librarything.com/work/32429257/t/The-Iron-King-The-Accursed-Kings-Bo...
Can someone with privileges combine these?
https://www.librarything.com/work/2843309/t/The-Iron-King
https://www.librarything.com/work/32429257/t/The-Iron-King-The-Accursed-Kings-Bo...
Can someone with privileges combine these?
24jasbro
>23 al.vick: I don't know about "privileges," but this'n's done. Thanks!
25MarthaJeanne
You don't need privileges to combine.
27waltzmn
>26 al.vick:
FWIW, that's not a matter of privilege; it's a matter of having Special Knowledge imparted do you. And, no, I don't have the Special Knowledge either. :-)
FWIW, that's not a matter of privilege; it's a matter of having Special Knowledge imparted do you. And, no, I don't have the Special Knowledge either. :-)
28AranelST
If anyone is bored and looking for things to do, John Owen needs a lot of help (which, like, he was a Puritan, so okay).
https://www.librarything.com/author/owenjohn-1
I am not familiar enough with his works to make sense of it all. There appear to be multiple versions of "The Complete Works of John Owns" (various titles) with different numbers of volumes, and many of them are combined incorrectly.
For example, many of these are clearly just one volume, but one volume of which set???
https://www.librarything.com/work/2009185/editions
There is for sure a 16-volume set and a 28-volume set, and I believe, alas, also a 27-volume set. Presumably volume 1 of 16 is different from 1 of 27 or 1 of 28.
He also did a commentary on Hebrews, which is available in 4-volume and 7-volume sets. I was able to sort out some of those, at least.
Oh, and some of his works exist in abridged and unabridged forms which don't seem to have been properly separated. (Or if they were, they aren't now.) And lots of translations.
https://www.librarything.com/author/owenjohn-1
I am not familiar enough with his works to make sense of it all. There appear to be multiple versions of "The Complete Works of John Owns" (various titles) with different numbers of volumes, and many of them are combined incorrectly.
For example, many of these are clearly just one volume, but one volume of which set???
https://www.librarything.com/work/2009185/editions
There is for sure a 16-volume set and a 28-volume set, and I believe, alas, also a 27-volume set. Presumably volume 1 of 16 is different from 1 of 27 or 1 of 28.
He also did a commentary on Hebrews, which is available in 4-volume and 7-volume sets. I was able to sort out some of those, at least.
Oh, and some of his works exist in abridged and unabridged forms which don't seem to have been properly separated. (Or if they were, they aren't now.) And lots of translations.
29clamairy
Can someone figure out how to separate the Cosmos audiobook from the TV series of the same name?
https://www.librarything.com/work/24560443/book/253603303
The ASIN is B06XTYCPST
I am pretty handy at combining, but I don't know where to start with this. I don't see it even listed to separate it when I add it to the workbench.
https://www.librarything.com/work/24560443/book/253603303
The ASIN is B06XTYCPST
I am pretty handy at combining, but I don't know where to start with this. I don't see it even listed to separate it when I add it to the workbench.
30AranelST
>29 clamairy:
Generally the trick is to change the title of your book to something which you can distinguish. Once you do that, you can separate it and combine it where it belongs. (You may first have to wait a short while for it to appear on the editions page.) So something like "Cosmos (audiobook)" would do the trick.
For reference:
This is the book (the audiobook should be attached here, assuming it is unabridged):
https://www.librarything.com/work/20673/editions
This is the TV series:
https://www.librarything.com/work/24560443/editions
One thing I notice from looking at the editions is that the subtitle "A Personal Voyage" is more often attached to the TV series than to the book (at least when people enter stuff here). That may be what is confusing the computer?
Generally the trick is to change the title of your book to something which you can distinguish. Once you do that, you can separate it and combine it where it belongs. (You may first have to wait a short while for it to appear on the editions page.) So something like "Cosmos (audiobook)" would do the trick.
For reference:
This is the book (the audiobook should be attached here, assuming it is unabridged):
https://www.librarything.com/work/20673/editions
This is the TV series:
https://www.librarything.com/work/24560443/editions
One thing I notice from looking at the editions is that the subtitle "A Personal Voyage" is more often attached to the TV series than to the book (at least when people enter stuff here). That may be what is confusing the computer?
31AnnieMod
>29 clamairy: The asin can help only if your copy does not get bundled with others into inseparable entity - a match for title, author and isbn (or lack of) is the usual way bundles form. When that happens only a rename of your own copy will be able to make it possible to be split out. So I’d go the route >30 AranelST: proposed - rename your copy, rescue it and then recombine it where it belongs. Now you can change the name back if you want. :)
32clamairy
>30 AranelST: & >31 AnnieMod: Thanks. I will try to mess around with this later. It's not that big a deal, I just thought it was odd.
33hollythepenguin
Hi, not sure if this is a bug or just me doing something wrong when combining works but I recently combined/separated several editions of "Dinghai Fusheng Records (The Comic / Manhua) Vol. 1" (there was some mix-up between the original novel and the comic adaptation).
Since then I can no longer see the informations about my copy on the book's page, as if I hadn't added it to my library (even though my name still appears among the members who recently added it) :
-> https://www.librarything.com/work/33127789/t/Dinghai-Fusheng-Records-The-Comic-%...
But if I go to my personal catalog, it will still appear among my books and I can then access a version of the book's page where the informations I entered about my copy are still visible :
-> https://www.librarything.com/work/33127789/283254959
So, not the same URL and I'm kinda stumped about what happened and how to fix it. Thanks in advance for your help !
Since then I can no longer see the informations about my copy on the book's page, as if I hadn't added it to my library (even though my name still appears among the members who recently added it) :
-> https://www.librarything.com/work/33127789/t/Dinghai-Fusheng-Records-The-Comic-%...
But if I go to my personal catalog, it will still appear among my books and I can then access a version of the book's page where the informations I entered about my copy are still visible :
-> https://www.librarything.com/work/33127789/283254959
So, not the same URL and I'm kinda stumped about what happened and how to fix it. Thanks in advance for your help !
34MarthaJeanne
It's the same work number, so it should be OK. It shows up when searching your catalogue, with that same work number. Probably will fix itself if you leave it alone for a bit. If it is still a problem tomorrow you could ask for a reindex. When the computer gets a bit miwed up it's usually best just to let it straighten itself out.
35hollythepenguin
>34 MarthaJeanne: Ok, thanks for your answer ! I will check on it in a couple days.
36jasbro
Haruki Murakami’s Killing Commendatore : A Novel needs attention that I can’t give it just now. Specifically, parts 1 & 2 (of 2) appear to have strays among editions for each other and for the complete work.
37karenb
>36 jasbro: Done. I suspect that others started, because there wasn't much left to do by the time I got there.
38jasbro
>37 karenb: Many thanks!
39shmjay
The corporate author Pandolfini has been mixed up with the chess author Bruce Pandolfini
Could someone separate the two? These are works of the corporate author Pandolfini:
https://www.librarything.com/work/24421683
https://www.librarything.com/work/15811555
Could someone separate the two? These are works of the corporate author Pandolfini:
https://www.librarything.com/work/24421683
https://www.librarything.com/work/15811555
40Nevov
>39 shmjay:
That's done, the Pandolfini page is here: https://www.librarything.com/author/pandolfini
and those two works show up there currently.
That's done, the Pandolfini page is here: https://www.librarything.com/author/pandolfini
and those two works show up there currently.
41birdtongue
Okay, newbie at separating, though I have combined. Help!
I am trying to add an omnibus to my library, here:
https://www.librarything.com/work/858767
This edition is a Nelson Doubleday hardcover collection of four novels. The graphic novels do exist --as a separate entity-- but *are* listed as a genre here, for some reason.
Anyway, when I click "add", it instead puts this into my library:
https://www.librarything.com/work/11100912/
Which appears to be an omnibus of the first novel's adaptation to graphic novel.
So I dug through the listed editions in combine/separate, and transferred some matching graphic novel entries (ISBN 1890856436; ISBN 1890856444) from the novel omnibus to the graphic novel omnibus. And now I can't add the novel omnibus to my library at all; dialog states "Could not find any results. Go to the Add Books page." o what have I done
e: Judging by the uploaded covers & ASIN code, it does appear that the entry with 78 copies should combine with the novel omnibus with 203 copies, but those were already separate instances before my meddling.
Robert Asprin, Myth Adventure series: first 4 books are Another Fine Myth; Myth Conceptions; Myth Directions; Hit Or Myth
I am trying to add an omnibus to my library, here:
https://www.librarything.com/work/858767
This edition is a Nelson Doubleday hardcover collection of four novels. The graphic novels do exist --as a separate entity-- but *are* listed as a genre here, for some reason.
Anyway, when I click "add", it instead puts this into my library:
https://www.librarything.com/work/11100912/
Which appears to be an omnibus of the first novel's adaptation to graphic novel.
So I dug through the listed editions in combine/separate, and transferred some matching graphic novel entries (ISBN 1890856436; ISBN 1890856444) from the novel omnibus to the graphic novel omnibus. And now I can't add the novel omnibus to my library at all; dialog states "Could not find any results. Go to the Add Books page." o what have I done
e: Judging by the uploaded covers & ASIN code, it does appear that the entry with 78 copies should combine with the novel omnibus with 203 copies, but those were already separate instances before my meddling.
Robert Asprin, Myth Adventure series: first 4 books are Another Fine Myth; Myth Conceptions; Myth Directions; Hit Or Myth
42MarthaJeanne
If the book is not in the source you are using, it tells you to go to the Add Books page where you can try a wider selection of sources or use manual entry. The add book button on a work page is simply a short cut for those who don't want to bother with worrying about accurate data.
If you don't try to enter from a work page, but go straight to the Add Books page, Your best bet is usually to try the ISBN with source Overcat. That will pick up any library searches that others have done for that ISBN. You should still check that your copy has combined into the right work, and chose a member cover. (Amazon covers can change. Even best guess member covers can change, although it is very rare.)
If you don't try to enter from a work page, but go straight to the Add Books page, Your best bet is usually to try the ISBN with source Overcat. That will pick up any library searches that others have done for that ISBN. You should still check that your copy has combined into the right work, and chose a member cover. (Amazon covers can change. Even best guess member covers can change, although it is very rare.)
43birdtongue
Well, it was linking to an entirely different edition than the one that is listed on the work page; you clicked "add" from 858767 and got 11100912 in the library.
I've just created a new problem by apparently breaking that link, when I *expected* it to revert to linking something in its own combined entry; "add" from 858767 now goes to nothing.
So, despite there being 203 copies and several dozen combined entries, you're saying 858767 has no sources or associated data to add a personal library entry? I find that confusing, if you could elaborate, please and thank you. (Again, backend newbie.)
I've just created a new problem by apparently breaking that link, when I *expected* it to revert to linking something in its own combined entry; "add" from 858767 now goes to nothing.
So, despite there being 203 copies and several dozen combined entries, you're saying 858767 has no sources or associated data to add a personal library entry? I find that confusing, if you could elaborate, please and thank you. (Again, backend newbie.)
44MarthaJeanne
>43 birdtongue: All that add button does is grab some ISBN from the work and search for it in a source (usually Amazon, unless you have changed it). It does not use any other data from the work, because LT is not a source. After that it tries to auto combine based on the title, author, ISBN combination that has been imported. Where there are several works that are similar, it will pick whichever work it first finds that it counts as including a match. It does not look at where you were adding it from. That is just how it works.
It CAN'T just copy the work, because a work can have several different versions in it. Different formats, different languages, different publishers and publication dates, some of that resulting in different titles and ISBNs, sometimes even the primary author. A recent best seller will probably work fairly well. A book you read years ago, and don't know (or care) which edition, also. But a work with various editions is quite hit or miss. The only entry in the work you want with an ISBN is not in English. Or did you want to enter 'Dar vienas puikus mitas'? In which case you still need to go to the Add Books page, as that will require a specialised source.
If you want control over what is entered, use the Add Book page. Either way, you may end up having to separate and combine, unless you just don't want to bother, and are happy to just leave it where the computer happens to put it.
It CAN'T just copy the work, because a work can have several different versions in it. Different formats, different languages, different publishers and publication dates, some of that resulting in different titles and ISBNs, sometimes even the primary author. A recent best seller will probably work fairly well. A book you read years ago, and don't know (or care) which edition, also. But a work with various editions is quite hit or miss. The only entry in the work you want with an ISBN is not in English. Or did you want to enter 'Dar vienas puikus mitas'? In which case you still need to go to the Add Books page, as that will require a specialised source.
If you want control over what is entered, use the Add Book page. Either way, you may end up having to separate and combine, unless you just don't want to bother, and are happy to just leave it where the computer happens to put it.
45birdtongue
Sorry, I'm trying to understand several different things beyond just adding a personal entry. Please redirect me elsewhere if there's a better place to get clarity.
I understand that LT is not, itself, a source in creating a new work. What I had thought is that the work page was a result of data that had *previously been imported* by another user. Thus you could add that specific work, ie the listed metadata, to your library, but still opt to search another in the ensuing dialog box if it wasn't quite right, and edit in library at will. Multiple combined entries seemed to be a result of capturing various (mis)spellings and alternate titles so that they all still appear under the same work, as they otherwise share a largely common pool of data.
I am unclear what you mean by version versus edition. Again, my assumption of a specific work was that it could capture various printings, ISBNS, etc. but the differentiation between works is top-level format, eg, the original novel vs an omnibus of 4 novels vs the comic book vs the graphic novel omnibus vs the omnibus of 11 novels. All have discrete work pages, but anything under the individual work would essentially be the same content.
It would make sense to *me* for "add" to make at least a generalized entry using the metadata from the work page regardless, but I hear you that that is not the functionality.
So now that I think I understand how "add" links work:
The book I am trying to add does not have an ISBN. Despite this, there is a work page that has the appropriate affiliated metadata -- so where is that metadata sourced if not the combined entries? (Are the combined entries JUST a list of names, rather than a reference point to pooled data?)
Directly related: Why did "add" not grab that ISBN in the combined entries to link as a search option? That seems like a bug.
Cheers!
I understand that LT is not, itself, a source in creating a new work. What I had thought is that the work page was a result of data that had *previously been imported* by another user. Thus you could add that specific work, ie the listed metadata, to your library, but still opt to search another in the ensuing dialog box if it wasn't quite right, and edit in library at will. Multiple combined entries seemed to be a result of capturing various (mis)spellings and alternate titles so that they all still appear under the same work, as they otherwise share a largely common pool of data.
I am unclear what you mean by version versus edition. Again, my assumption of a specific work was that it could capture various printings, ISBNS, etc. but the differentiation between works is top-level format, eg, the original novel vs an omnibus of 4 novels vs the comic book vs the graphic novel omnibus vs the omnibus of 11 novels. All have discrete work pages, but anything under the individual work would essentially be the same content.
It would make sense to *me* for "add" to make at least a generalized entry using the metadata from the work page regardless, but I hear you that that is not the functionality.
So now that I think I understand how "add" links work:
The book I am trying to add does not have an ISBN. Despite this, there is a work page that has the appropriate affiliated metadata -- so where is that metadata sourced if not the combined entries? (Are the combined entries JUST a list of names, rather than a reference point to pooled data?)
Directly related: Why did "add" not grab that ISBN in the combined entries to link as a search option? That seems like a bug.
Cheers!
46SandraArdnas
>45 birdtongue: What is meant by 'LT is not a source' is that you cannot use it as one. It is not possible to import or copy someone else's data for the book. However, if those people used a library source for their data, that record will be in Overcat, which is why it is often the first source many of us use to find something.
47jasbro
Not a fix request, but an info request: I’ve separated Los años magníficos 1932 - 2007 75 aniversario Del Real Zaragoza, which appears to have been auto-combined with Love Lasts Three Years by Frédéric Beigbeder, but there don’t appear to be any other editions with which to re-combine it. Is there any way to assure that it remains separated and not auto-re-combined again?
48MarthaJeanne
>47 jasbro: If there is no matching edition they should not autocombine.
49shmjay
https://www.librarything.com/work/31101441
may be a Korean translation of
https://www.librarything.com/work/14360054/t/Mere-Education-C-S-Lewis-as-Teacher...
Unfortunately the public version of Worldcat does not give the original title of the translation, but this is one of the books authored by Mark A. Pike with a relevant title. I can check the professional version of Worldcat at work tomorrow.
may be a Korean translation of
https://www.librarything.com/work/14360054/t/Mere-Education-C-S-Lewis-as-Teacher...
Unfortunately the public version of Worldcat does not give the original title of the translation, but this is one of the books authored by Mark A. Pike with a relevant title. I can check the professional version of Worldcat at work tomorrow.
50chocorua
Good day. Looking for assistance with combining the following:
Tarot Coloring Book / Gray Peter, / (ISBN 1398814458) https://www.librarything.com/work/34092128/work/286238636
The Tarot Coloring Book / Peter Gray / (ISBN 1398814458) https://www.librarything.com/work/27852414/t/The-Tarot-Colouring-Book
Would someone please be able to assist?
Tarot Coloring Book / Gray Peter, / (ISBN 1398814458) https://www.librarything.com/work/34092128/work/286238636
The Tarot Coloring Book / Peter Gray / (ISBN 1398814458) https://www.librarything.com/work/27852414/t/The-Tarot-Colouring-Book
Would someone please be able to assist?
51Nevov
>50 chocorua:
That's done :-)
That's done :-)
52chocorua
>51 Nevov:
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much!
53chocorua
Good day. Looking for assistance with splitting / separating an author:
https://www.librarything.com/author/maillpatrick
The two books listed have different authors:
The Cards: The Evolution and Power of Tarot - author is Patrick Maille (notice no accent on the e) - a professor of history at Oklahoma Panhandle State University
Telecommunication network economics - author is Patrick Maillé (notice the accent on the e) - a professor in Rennes, France with an education in telecommunications
Would someone please be able to assist?
https://www.librarything.com/author/maillpatrick
The two books listed have different authors:
The Cards: The Evolution and Power of Tarot - author is Patrick Maille (notice no accent on the e) - a professor of history at Oklahoma Panhandle State University
Telecommunication network economics - author is Patrick Maillé (notice the accent on the e) - a professor in Rennes, France with an education in telecommunications
Would someone please be able to assist?
54MarthaJeanne
>53 chocorua: They are now separated. You can add any information you know to their CK.
55chocorua
>54 MarthaJeanne: Thank you so much MarthaJeanne
56chocorua
Looking for assistance with the Encyclopedia of Tarot series. I have two (2) problems that I'm hoping someone can help with.
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/30132/Encyclopedia-of-Tarot
#1 - This book should be part of the series and it is not. When I try to add it to the series, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it states, "Adding Haynes Chevrolet Lumina(95-01); Monte Carlo (FWD) (95 - 05); (FWD) Impala (00 - 05) Manual (24048)" which I know is incorrect.
https://www.librarything.com/work/6212826/book/286156912
#2 - This books is part of the series but it should be associated with Volume II, not Volume I:
https://www.librarything.com/work/edit/286742036
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/30132/Encyclopedia-of-Tarot
#1 - This book should be part of the series and it is not. When I try to add it to the series, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it states, "Adding Haynes Chevrolet Lumina(95-01); Monte Carlo (FWD) (95 - 05); (FWD) Impala (00 - 05) Manual (24048)" which I know is incorrect.
https://www.librarything.com/work/6212826/book/286156912
#2 - This books is part of the series but it should be associated with Volume II, not Volume I:
https://www.librarything.com/work/edit/286742036
57MarthaJeanne
>56 chocorua: I have done some of the separations, but can't do combining without Volume numbers in the title.
Besides, it's the middle of the night, and I need to go back to sleep.
BTW URLs may be very weird after combining work. You may need new links.
Besides, it's the middle of the night, and I need to go back to sleep.
BTW URLs may be very weird after combining work. You may need new links.
58chocorua
>57 MarthaJeanne: Thank you, and yes please get some rest, no immediate rush. I've added the volume number to the title where it was missing. Here are the current links:
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/30132/Encyclopedia-of-Tarot
#1 - https://www.librarything.com/work/405165/book/286156912
#2 - https://www.librarything.com/work/405165/book/286742036
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/30132/Encyclopedia-of-Tarot
#1 - https://www.librarything.com/work/405165/book/286156912
#2 - https://www.librarything.com/work/405165/book/286742036
59scott_beeler
> 57 I did a couple last split/merges of individual entries. It looks good to me, aside from not knowing for sure about a bunch of entries that don't have a volume number or numbers.
60chocorua
>59 scott_beeler: Thank you. Between you and MarthaJean, it looks correct in my library now. One day, I hope to understand how to do that better than I do now. I'm always so afraid of messing it up. I appreciate the help.
61I-_-I
Anyone up for separating the author page for Jacob Lawrence?
Edit: on second glance, there may be just the one author. Never mind :)
Edit: on second glance, there may be just the one author. Never mind :)
62Cecrow
Please combine these pages for "Do Not Cry When I Die" by Renee Salt.
https://www.librarything.com/work/33435662/t/Do-Not-Cry-When-I-Die-A-Holocaust-M...
https://www.librarything.com/work/33558456/t/Do-Not-Cry-When-I-Die-A-Holocaust-M...
https://www.librarything.com/work/33935842/t/Do-not-cry-when-I-die-a-Holocaust-m...
https://www.librarything.com/work/33435662/t/Do-Not-Cry-When-I-Die-A-Holocaust-M...
https://www.librarything.com/work/33558456/t/Do-Not-Cry-When-I-Die-A-Holocaust-M...
https://www.librarything.com/work/33935842/t/Do-not-cry-when-I-die-a-Holocaust-m...
63jasbro
>62 Cecrow: Done. For reference, combining works that have fewer than 200 copies (including into works with many more than 200 copies) can be done easily using the "Add work to workbench" link under "Helper Hub." Once you're in the Helper Hub, the "Add ... " link for any work record should appear on its work page, either in the lower, right-hand sidebar or at the bottom. I first added each of the work records you listed to my workbench, then combined them from there.
64shmjay
I separated this 16th-century Nicholas Carr https://www.librarything.com/author/carrnicholasg-2 from the current one, but I don't know how to have Library thing stop claiming he is a second Nichlas G. Carr. https://www.librarything.com/author/carrnicholasg A second Nicholas Carr, yes.
65MarthaJeanne
The problem was that Nicholas Carr had been combined with Nicholas G Carr. I have separated them, but now you will have to split https://www.librarything.com/author/carrnicholas
If some of those works belong to Nicholas G Carr, that division will need to be aliased to the main author page, not combined.
ETA I have started the division, so that the aliasing is done, and minimal CK for the earlier Nicholas Carr. Someone who knows the work of Nicholas G Carr can go through and mark his works easily.
If some of those works belong to Nicholas G Carr, that division will need to be aliased to the main author page, not combined.
ETA I have started the division, so that the aliasing is done, and minimal CK for the earlier Nicholas Carr. Someone who knows the work of Nicholas G Carr can go through and mark his works easily.
66chocorua
Good day. Looking for assistance with combining authors for Urania's Mirror. I've gone back-and-forth with deciding the best way to handle this and I'm looking for assistance with fixing this.
https://www.librarything.com/work/edit/289646596
This is a facsimile edition of Urania's Mirror, 1832. The author, as per World Cat (https://search.worldcat.org/title/406422875?oclcNum=406422875) is "Lady". The book cover indicates:
"Urania's Mirror or A View of the Heavens; consisting of Thirty-two Cards, on which are represented all the constellations visible in Great Britain; on a plan perfectly original. Designed by a lady."
Interestingly, as per (https://ras.ac.uk/library/treasures-of-the-ras/2428-treasures-of-the-ras-urania-s-mirror), "the identify of the author was a mystery for 170 years. In 1994 Peter Hingley, then Librarian at the RAS, identified the author as Reverend Richard Rouse Bloxam. He probably kept his identity secret because the images were copied (plagiarised) from an earlier work: A Celestial Atlas by Alexander Jamieson (1822)."
Authors:
https://www.librarything.com/author/lady-5
https://www.librarything.com/author/bloxamrichardrouse
Would listing the author on my book as "Lady" be the best recommendation? And should these authors be combined?
And it seems many have incorrectly listed the author as:
https://www.librarything.com/author/noblebarnes
I seem to have a knack for finding works with a complicated authorship.
https://www.librarything.com/work/edit/289646596
This is a facsimile edition of Urania's Mirror, 1832. The author, as per World Cat (https://search.worldcat.org/title/406422875?oclcNum=406422875) is "Lady". The book cover indicates:
"Urania's Mirror or A View of the Heavens; consisting of Thirty-two Cards, on which are represented all the constellations visible in Great Britain; on a plan perfectly original. Designed by a lady."
Interestingly, as per (https://ras.ac.uk/library/treasures-of-the-ras/2428-treasures-of-the-ras-urania-s-mirror), "the identify of the author was a mystery for 170 years. In 1994 Peter Hingley, then Librarian at the RAS, identified the author as Reverend Richard Rouse Bloxam. He probably kept his identity secret because the images were copied (plagiarised) from an earlier work: A Celestial Atlas by Alexander Jamieson (1822)."
Authors:
https://www.librarything.com/author/lady-5
https://www.librarything.com/author/bloxamrichardrouse
Would listing the author on my book as "Lady" be the best recommendation? And should these authors be combined?
And it seems many have incorrectly listed the author as:
https://www.librarything.com/author/noblebarnes
I seem to have a knack for finding works with a complicated authorship.
67MarthaJeanne
A divided author should not be combined. The split can be aliased to another author.
68jasbro
>66 chocorua: I've aliased "A Lady (5)" into "Richard Rouse Bloxam" and attempted to attribute authorship correctly (Barnes & Noble being primarily a reprint house, rarely if ever, an author). At this point, it may be best to let the caching settle out, then see what it looks like - maybe later today or even tomorrow.
69smc1
https://www.librarything.com/work/34398516/t/Corot
This work consists of 4 different works, but when trying to separate, the 4 are listed as having the same title (Corot)/author (Corot).
Can these 4 be separated from each other? The Roberts book can be combined with the Keith Roberts work on Corot.
This work consists of 4 different works, but when trying to separate, the 4 are listed as having the same title (Corot)/author (Corot).
Can these 4 be separated from each other? The Roberts book can be combined with the Keith Roberts work on Corot.
70MarthaJeanne
>69 smc1: In editions there is only one line, with the 4 copies sharing the same title and author, and no ISBN. So no, there is no way to separate them unless the title/author are changed first.
71smc1
>70 MarthaJeanne: Thank you
72smc1
Is there a spot for a notice to newly added books that this work is a combination of 4 works/texts?
73smc1
>70 MarthaJeanne: Is there a spot for a notice to newly added books that this work is a combination of 4 works/texts?
74waltzmn
>72 smc1:
There are three things you can do. The most powerful is to create relationships between the books. For example, Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass contains Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass. This prevents many accidental combinations.
You can also add a disambiguation notice in Common Knowledge, saying something like "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" is not the same as an edition of "Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass. Do not combine them." This alerts people to what is going on, if they look. (Most don't, which is why relationships work better. The best thing to do is create a relationship and add a notice.)
Finally, just for your own purposes, you can add a comment or a private comment.
The first two actions are a service to LibraryThing, if done right -- but there is a risk of making a mess if done wrong. Adding a comment to your book offers no benefit to anyone else but also cannot cause damage.
If you want to do the first two but can't figure out how, you can post to Combiners! and someone will do the work for you if you give them enough details to figure it out.
I hope that helps.
There are three things you can do. The most powerful is to create relationships between the books. For example, Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass contains Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass. This prevents many accidental combinations.
You can also add a disambiguation notice in Common Knowledge, saying something like "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" is not the same as an edition of "Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass. Do not combine them." This alerts people to what is going on, if they look. (Most don't, which is why relationships work better. The best thing to do is create a relationship and add a notice.)
Finally, just for your own purposes, you can add a comment or a private comment.
The first two actions are a service to LibraryThing, if done right -- but there is a risk of making a mess if done wrong. Adding a comment to your book offers no benefit to anyone else but also cannot cause damage.
If you want to do the first two but can't figure out how, you can post to Combiners! and someone will do the work for you if you give them enough details to figure it out.
I hope that helps.
75smc1
>74 waltzmn: Yes, very helpful. Thank you
I think I'll try the disambiguation notice - that can't do any harm
I think I'll try the disambiguation notice - that can't do any harm
76chocorua
>68 jasbro: Thank you so much!
77BFMQuakers
The Quaker pamphlet Friends and the world of nature (1980) is by Theodor Benfey (1925-2024), not Theodor Benfey (1809–1881). The LT system has it both right and wrong in ways that I can’t work out. There are about 40 copies.
The right author: https://www.librarything.com/author/benfeyotheodor
The wrong author: https://www.librarything.com/author/benfeytheodor
The right author: https://www.librarything.com/author/benfeyotheodor
The wrong author: https://www.librarything.com/author/benfeytheodor
78MarthaJeanne
>77 BFMQuakers: Your best bet is probably to split Theodor Benfey, and to alias the split with this work to O Theodor. Just changing the work primary author will leave too many links that lead to the wrong author page.
79Charon07
>77 BFMQuakers: I think I’ve got it straightened out.
80BFMQuakers
Thanks, @Charon07 and @MarthaJeanne!
81chocorua
Good day. I have another book I'm looking for assistance with. I just added "The Leaper Between: An Historical Study of the Toad-Bone Amulet; its Forms, Functions, and Praxis in Popular Magic" to my library, using Valdosta State University as my source. I pulled in the book published by Three Hands Press in 2012 (which matches the copyright page in my book).
https://www.librarything.com/work/14995448/details/290254273
However, when I go to the author page, it lists 2001 as the publishing date.
https://www.librarything.com/author/chumbleyandrewd
Did I do something wrong? Can this be fixed? If someone could please fix this for me I would appreciate it, but I would like to understand what caused this to happen.
https://www.librarything.com/work/14995448/details/290254273
However, when I go to the author page, it lists 2001 as the publishing date.
https://www.librarything.com/author/chumbleyandrewd
Did I do something wrong? Can this be fixed? If someone could please fix this for me I would appreciate it, but I would like to understand what caused this to happen.
82norabelle414
>81 chocorua: The date listed on the author page is the original publication date of the work. Your copy might be from 2012 but the work itself was first published in 2001.
83waltzmn
>81 chocorua:
I don't think I can help much. Maybe someone else who knows more about the system. There does seem to be something odd about that book, though, because there are supposed to be dozens of copies, but it doesn't show up on Overcat.
Is your copy 66 pages, by the way?
If you look at the Common Knowledge for the book (look at the bottom of the Overview page), it gives an Original Publication Date of 2001. And there are seven editions listed. I notice that one of those editions is a "Special Edition." Is it possible that you have the Special Edition and it is of a later date? I can't say anything about the book, but generally I am inclined to trust the date of the work (2001, according to Common Knowledge) over that of a particular edition.
I also note that none of the editions has an ISBN. I'm genuinely curious: Where did you get the book?
I don't think I can help much. Maybe someone else who knows more about the system. There does seem to be something odd about that book, though, because there are supposed to be dozens of copies, but it doesn't show up on Overcat.
Is your copy 66 pages, by the way?
If you look at the Common Knowledge for the book (look at the bottom of the Overview page), it gives an Original Publication Date of 2001. And there are seven editions listed. I notice that one of those editions is a "Special Edition." Is it possible that you have the Special Edition and it is of a later date? I can't say anything about the book, but generally I am inclined to trust the date of the work (2001, according to Common Knowledge) over that of a particular edition.
I also note that none of the editions has an ISBN. I'm genuinely curious: Where did you get the book?
84chocorua
>83 waltzmn: Thanks for your response! So, my copy is 66 pages, and I received it directly from the publisher (Three Hands Press). It is a paperback edition (definitely not the special edition). Based on your response (and norabelle414) about the 2001 original publication date, I decided to Google this to see what I could figure out. Seems this publication is a bit complicated (see https://wiebkerost.com/2015/02/19/the-leaper-between/ for an excellent write up about it). Based on this, I'm not sure whether 2001 or 2012 would be considered the original publication date!
And to confirm, there is no ISBN in the book.
And to confirm, there is no ISBN in the book.
85norabelle414
>84 chocorua: If the 2001 The Cauldron edition is abridged, as mentioned in the article, then there should be two separate works. It's impossible to tell from the editions page which editions are which (except for the one that says "special edition") but based on cover images I would say probably all of them are the 2012 edition?
Probably the best we could do is replace the original publication date with 2012 and add a disambiguation notice that states the 2012 edition is a separate work from the abridged 2001 edition (which is not cataloged here).
How does it look now?
Probably the best we could do is replace the original publication date with 2012 and add a disambiguation notice that states the 2012 edition is a separate work from the abridged 2001 edition (which is not cataloged here).
How does it look now?
86chocorua
>85 norabelle414: Though my knowledge about the work is limited, I would tend to agree that they're all the 2012 edition. I think it looks great! Thank you so much for your help with this. Really appreciate your knowledge and input! :)
87rodneyvc
The majority of "Juice Blitz (Quick Fix)" by Leslie Kenton seem to be attributed to David Marr or Marr David - see https://www.librarything.com/work/25998776/editions
I suspect that this is a re- or mis-use of ISBN 9780091825850.
Any ideas as to how to fix this?
I suspect that this is a re- or mis-use of ISBN 9780091825850.
Any ideas as to how to fix this?
88MarthaJeanne
You can't 'fix' someone else's data. This seems to have come from Amazon, and Amazon now has the correct listing.
89AranelST
I changed the author, but it only lasts until the next time the author is calculated.
There really should be a way to override outright incorrect author information, as there is with the canonical title. Voting is fine, but most people are just importing their books, they're not intentionally voting on the correct author. In effect, treating every entry as a vote is letting Amazon make most of the decisions.
But, until or unless we have a way to do that, it is what it is.
There really should be a way to override outright incorrect author information, as there is with the canonical title. Voting is fine, but most people are just importing their books, they're not intentionally voting on the correct author. In effect, treating every entry as a vote is letting Amazon make most of the decisions.
But, until or unless we have a way to do that, it is what it is.
90waltzmn
>89 AranelST:
Before LT2, there was a way to go in and fix the author information, but I don't know where the link has vanished. Somewhere in the Helper area. Someone will probably know.
Before LT2, there was a way to go in and fix the author information, but I don't know where the link has vanished. Somewhere in the Helper area. Someone will probably know.
91norabelle414
It's the "author information" module. Previously named "other authors"
92waltzmn
>91 norabelle414: That's the one! Thank you.
93MissWatson
Something odd just happened when I added Mick Herron’s Real Tigers https://www.librarything.com/work/13312097/book/290989978 to my library: LT tells me that it is identical with the second book in the series, Dead Lions. ISBNs seem to be correct, so what else could be the error?
94MarthaJeanne
>93 MissWatson: Separated and recombined. When the autocombiner makes a mistake, you have to go into editions and separate the copy out, then combine it into the correct work. Note: Your URL above will still look wrong because it has the wrong work number.
95MissWatson
>94 MarthaJeanne: Thank you! I will try to remember this in case it happens again.
96al.vick
What's the difference between these? Should they be combined?
https://www.librarything.com/work/22982/t/Oh-the-Places-Youll-Go%21
https://www.librarything.com/work/28666766/t/Oh-the-Places-Youll-Go%21%C2%A0%C2%...
https://www.librarything.com/work/22982/t/Oh-the-Places-Youll-Go%21
https://www.librarything.com/work/28666766/t/Oh-the-Places-Youll-Go%21%C2%A0%C2%...
97MarthaJeanne
>96 al.vick: Yes, they need to be combined, but it needs spedial treatment, as both are over 200.
98AranelST
>90 waltzmn: Before LT2, there was a way to go in and fix the author information, but I don't know where the link has vanished.
>91 norabelle414: It's the "author information" module. Previously named "other authors"
After you have done this, if you hit "Recalculate title/author", then it recalculates, which seems to override any corrections that have been made.
You can get it to include the correct author by making them a secondary author (only the first author gets recalculated), but the first author will still be incorrect.
I think that when editions are combined in, that also forces a recalculate, but I'm not 100% on that.
>96 al.vick:
Good catch! The ISBN is the same, so I don't think there is a difference, but it's fair too huge to be combined by us mere mortals. We'll have to go to the other thread.
>91 norabelle414: It's the "author information" module. Previously named "other authors"
After you have done this, if you hit "Recalculate title/author", then it recalculates, which seems to override any corrections that have been made.
You can get it to include the correct author by making them a secondary author (only the first author gets recalculated), but the first author will still be incorrect.
I think that when editions are combined in, that also forces a recalculate, but I'm not 100% on that.
>96 al.vick:
Good catch! The ISBN is the same, so I don't think there is a difference, but it's fair too huge to be combined by us mere mortals. We'll have to go to the other thread.
100smcwl
I have a question about the generation of the Work's primary author - The primary author of the book, Benny Carter: A Life in American Music, Volume II, is showing as "unknown author"
https://www.librarything.com/work/33597929/editions
https://www.librarything.com/work/33597929/t/Benny-Carter-A-Life-in-American-Mus...
although the primary author is correct in the Overview/Authors section.
Can this be fixed (and does anyone know why this is the case here)?
https://www.librarything.com/work/33597929/editions
https://www.librarything.com/work/33597929/t/Benny-Carter-A-Life-in-American-Mus...
although the primary author is correct in the Overview/Authors section.
Can this be fixed (and does anyone know why this is the case here)?
101MarthaJeanne
>100 smcwl: I think a lot of the problem was that there wasn't any edition with a good author entered. I have entered it with Morroe Berger as the author, and I think I have succeeded in getting that to stick. For now I'll put this is as minimal a collection as possible so it doesn't affect my account much. Eventually, I'll delete it and we will have to see if a 0 copy edition can hold the author in place.
Grrr. Misspelled. trying to fix. I think it's good now.
Grrr. Misspelled. trying to fix. I think it's good now.
102smcwl
>101 MarthaJeanne: Thank you, MarthaJeanne
103vancouverdeb
Can you please combine the author of this book, https://www.librarything.com/work/34089489/book/292796388 with the author of this book https://www.librarything.com/work/30838507/t/Anna-O . The Matthew Blake's are the same, as it says on my book, A Murder in Paris, author of Anna O. Thanks!
104MarthaJeanne
>103 vancouverdeb: Done. Murder in Paris had not been assigned to any split.
105shmjay
https://www.librarything.com/author/smithsally-3 and https://www.librarything.com/author/smithsallyhughes should not have been aliased into each other. Sally Hughes Smith graduated from Duke University and lived in Charleston when her books were published. Sally Smith (3), author of A case of mice and murder was a barrister in England.
106MarthaJeanne
>105 shmjay: Unaliased.
107I-_-I
Anyone interested in taking on two missions? The first is a straightforward fix while the second might require a bit of investigation.
1) The entry for Clint Eastwood: Interviews contains said book, what looks like a separate book, and at least one DVD collection.
2) Someone recently undivided Joanne Harris, but I suspect some of the works are not by the author of Chocolat (for instance the African-American History Magazine Collector's Issue).
Thanks in advance!
1) The entry for Clint Eastwood: Interviews contains said book, what looks like a separate book, and at least one DVD collection.
2) Someone recently undivided Joanne Harris, but I suspect some of the works are not by the author of Chocolat (for instance the African-American History Magazine Collector's Issue).
Thanks in advance!
108MarthaJeanne
>107 I-_-I: What about links?
109I-_-I
>108 MarthaJeanne: I just saw your response after adding a link to the Eastwood book. (Touchstone didn't work.) Is that what you're referring to?
EDIT: user error on my part. I've added working touchstones to my request (post #107).
EDIT: user error on my part. I've added working touchstones to my request (post #107).
110MarthaJeanne
Here, URLs are much better than touchstones.
112jasbro
>107 I-_-I: Are these fixed now?
113I-_-I
>112 jasbro: not yet. far from urgent though
114AranelST
>113 I-_-I:
It looks like the Clint Eastwood Interviews have been sorted. After I recalculated the cover, the only issue that remains is 3 different incorrect Amazon ASIN covers, all of which I flagged.
Are there any other works that you think are not by that Joanne Harris? I'm not sure what to do with the African-American History Magazine, because Google can't seem to find any evidence of any magazine with that title. (...and neither can any other search engine I have tried.) If that is not the correct title, then the author might be incorrect as well, but there's only so much we can do about that.
It looks like the Clint Eastwood Interviews have been sorted. After I recalculated the cover, the only issue that remains is 3 different incorrect Amazon ASIN covers, all of which I flagged.
Are there any other works that you think are not by that Joanne Harris? I'm not sure what to do with the African-American History Magazine, because Google can't seem to find any evidence of any magazine with that title. (...and neither can any other search engine I have tried.) If that is not the correct title, then the author might be incorrect as well, but there's only so much we can do about that.
115MarthaJeanne
None of the works I looked at were by a different Joanne Harris, but I did not investigate the magazines. I was trying to find a 2 to start the division process.
116I-_-I
>114 AranelST:
>115 MarthaJeanne:
Fair re. Joanne Harris - if it seems that it's just the magazine, let's leave it alone :)
And thanks to whoever took care of the Clint Eastwood stuff.
>115 MarthaJeanne:
Fair re. Joanne Harris - if it seems that it's just the magazine, let's leave it alone :)
And thanks to whoever took care of the Clint Eastwood stuff.
117davidgn
Found a Brazilian Portuguese black hole author that needs authors assigned properly to its works. Got a start on them, but there's 500+.
https://www.librarything.com/author/701932520
https://www.librarything.com/author/701932520
118MarthaJeanne
>117 davidgn: I've done a few.
Slow work.
BTW A lot of these need combining, once you know where they belong.
Down to 547.
Slow work.
BTW A lot of these need combining, once you know where they belong.
Down to 547.
119davidgn
>118 MarthaJeanne: Thanks. 541.
120MarthaJeanne
We are down below 500. But enough for now.
122MarthaJeanne
>121 davidgn: I find that so far 'recalculate from members books' usually gives me a good author, or sometimes checking the covers. I'm not sure that will still be the case when there are fewer copies.
We are working on https://www.librarything.com/author/701932520
We are working on https://www.librarything.com/author/701932520
124davidgn
>123 MarthaJeanne: Me too. We've made a big dent.
126MarthaJeanne
What's with https://www.librarything.com/work/33326861/t/Apenas-Amigos? Seems to have Lauren, Christina as author sometimes.
Down to 203.
ETA 199
Down to 203.
ETA 199
127davidgn
>126 MarthaJeanne: No idea. That might be a bug report.
128MarthaJeanne
At 160 now, and getting much harder. I made the bug report. I'm giving up. Too many 1 copies with no cover.
129davidgn
>128 MarthaJeanne: Thanks. At 152, and skipping some, but still finding plenty with covers. Got to pause for now, though.
130davidgn
>129 davidgn: Down to the last 33, but they'll each require some work. Need another voter on the misplaced author picture too.
131LeslieWx
>130 davidgn: tell me where & how, and I'll vote
132waltzmn
>131 LeslieWx: tell me where & how, and I'll vote. Ditto. I would like to help with this project, but I need more instruction than I've gotten for books apparently in a language I don't read. :-) (And you've now probably done all the ones that a non-expert like me could deal with.)
133LeslieWx
>132 waltzmn: Oh, you give me too much credit! I'm just watching as @davidgn and @MarthaJeanne count down their progress, and figure this "request" is within my skill set :)
134waltzmn
>133 LeslieWx: I understood. I'm in the same situation you are. I'm asking them to tell me what I can do.
135davidgn
>133 LeslieWx: >134 waltzmn: Just need to get rid of this. https://www.librarything.com/pic/5214664
Thanks for the help.
ETA: We're at 7 works left, and I think that's probably about as good as it gets, unless anyone has any ideas on any of the leftovers.
ETA: Thanks, everyone. I think we're finished at 5. Everything remaining is owned by a library in Myanmar and is manually entered, so the user that entered them is probably the only one who could possibly do anything with them. All that's left is to kill the picture.
ETA: And that's a wrap!
Thanks for the help.
ETA: We're at 7 works left, and I think that's probably about as good as it gets, unless anyone has any ideas on any of the leftovers.
ETA: Thanks, everyone. I think we're finished at 5. Everything remaining is owned by a library in Myanmar and is manually entered, so the user that entered them is probably the only one who could possibly do anything with them. All that's left is to kill the picture.
ETA: And that's a wrap!
136LeslieWx
>135 davidgn: Congrats!
By the time I found your link and went to it, it said "This image is no longer available." Would you be willing to describe what it looked like before, and what I would have had to do?
By the time I found your link and went to it, it said "This image is no longer available." Would you be willing to describe what it looked like before, and what I would have had to do?
137waltzmn
>135 davidgn: Well done!
138davidgn
>136 LeslieWx: It's now the most recent image under the "Removed" tab here:
https://www.librarything.com/gallery/flagged
And you would just have needed to vote Yes on its removal, in the same way that you can vote Yes or Now on any of the other images on the "Up for a Vote" tab at the same link now.
Thanks again.
P.S. The image belongs to an author named L. J. Smith and wound up on "_" through some ill-starred miscombination, most likely. Other people have already put it back where it needs to be.
https://www.librarything.com/gallery/flagged
And you would just have needed to vote Yes on its removal, in the same way that you can vote Yes or Now on any of the other images on the "Up for a Vote" tab at the same link now.
Thanks again.
P.S. The image belongs to an author named L. J. Smith and wound up on "_" through some ill-starred miscombination, most likely. Other people have already put it back where it needs to be.
139jasbro
>117 davidgn: >118 MarthaJeanne: >131 LeslieWx: >132 waltzmn: Down to 5 - and those look largely indistinguishable/unidentifiable/unsolvable to me. Great work!
Now:
Now:
- there's an "author," To Be Confirmed; and
- an ever-growing number of "no title" works (which don't lend themselves to touchstones, because LT uses double brackets for "no title," making that title look like an author touchstone); see https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=%5BNo+title%5D&searchtype=new....
140davidgn
Found another (small) tarball. https://www.librarything.com/author/gxegauy
141dw5s
Is there a helper's log for modifications to series? I was confused by a 1928 Oxford edition of "Works of Aristotle. Vol. 1" (https://www.librarything.com/work/19362810/book/294318200) being wrongly auto associated with the work "Britannica Great Books: Aristotle I" (https://www.librarything.com/work/245558) in the series:
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/256093/Great-Books-of-the-Western-World-Fir...
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/375613/Great-Books-of-the-Western-World-Sec...
Before I understood that I needed to separate my book from the incorrectly auto assigned work, I removed the work from the above two series.
I _believe_ I have now restored these two series to the way they were, but it would be great to have some confirmation of that.
I noticed that there were a variety of Helpers Logs, but I didn't see anything specifically for changes to series....
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/256093/Great-Books-of-the-Western-World-Fir...
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/375613/Great-Books-of-the-Western-World-Sec...
Before I understood that I needed to separate my book from the incorrectly auto assigned work, I removed the work from the above two series.
I _believe_ I have now restored these two series to the way they were, but it would be great to have some confirmation of that.
I noticed that there were a variety of Helpers Logs, but I didn't see anything specifically for changes to series....
142catscoffeecats
>141 dw5s: On the series page, right-hand side, click "edit series" then "edit history." Or go to https://www.librarything.com/nseries/history/###### where ###### is the series number. It looks like you fixed it.
Relatedly, there is a member who is removing many books from series (probably with the same misunderstanding) and not reversing them -- does anyone know if there's a way for staff to address that?
Relatedly, there is a member who is removing many books from series (probably with the same misunderstanding) and not reversing them -- does anyone know if there's a way for staff to address that?
143SimoneA
>142 catscoffeecats: Yes, there is a way for staff to undo series edits. You can contact Abigail to request this.
144scott_beeler
>141 dw5s: I just looked at those "Great Books of the Western World" series and saw another problem, which was that the Aeschylus / Sophocles / Euripides / Aristophanes volume was just an empty placeholder with no editions/copies in it. Somehow the actual entries for it got moved elsewhere. I have split/merged them and re-added the series info, so I think they're fine.
But I had found them mixed into the following two works, which from what I can tell are each made up of several different Greek-drama collections merged together. They clearly need to be split, and potentially then merged in with other versions of those works. Any Greek-drama fans want to take a stab at it?
https://www.librarything.com/work/34784297/editions
https://www.librarything.com/work/34784256/editions
But I had found them mixed into the following two works, which from what I can tell are each made up of several different Greek-drama collections merged together. They clearly need to be split, and potentially then merged in with other versions of those works. Any Greek-drama fans want to take a stab at it?
https://www.librarything.com/work/34784297/editions
https://www.librarything.com/work/34784256/editions
145daniel.takacs
Hello, I would like to ask for help to separate these works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/9704692/294717187
https://www.librarything.com/work/9704692/work/294717187
also:
https://www.librarything.com/work/129892/book/293833077
https://www.librarything.com/work/129892/work/293833077
I don't know, what is happening, but it seems that I get more and more wrong combinations in these months, was there somthing big change, or am I just unlucky?
Thank you very much in advance.
EDIT: I found the solution, excuse me for the false asking. Anyway, I am still courious why is this happening....
https://www.librarything.com/work/9704692/294717187
https://www.librarything.com/work/9704692/work/294717187
also:
https://www.librarything.com/work/129892/book/293833077
https://www.librarything.com/work/129892/work/293833077
I don't know, what is happening, but it seems that I get more and more wrong combinations in these months, was there somthing big change, or am I just unlucky?
Thank you very much in advance.
EDIT: I found the solution, excuse me for the false asking. Anyway, I am still courious why is this happening....
146jasbro
>145 daniel.takacs: I'm not sure what you're seeing or how it happens, but each of your four links currently leads to a different work - two, specifically Thomas Mann's Válogatott elbeszélések and Albert Manfred's Robespierre, from your own catalog, and the other two, Owen Strachan and Doug Sweeney's Jonathan Edwards on Heaven & Hell and Laurence Olivier's Confessions of an Actor, their respective general work pages. Have you done separations and recombinations since your post, which may now be leading us to different pages?
147daniel.takacs
>146 jasbro: Yes, thank you, I did it.
148superboy
I'm trying to work out where to fit Raising Cain
https://www.librarything.com/work/21586922/editions
into the Skulduggery Pleasant series. Some ISBNs suggest it's book 2, some suggest book 1. I can't find anything on the internet that says any book in the series has the title though it does refer to one of the main characters.
https://www.librarything.com/work/21586922/editions
into the Skulduggery Pleasant series. Some ISBNs suggest it's book 2, some suggest book 1. I can't find anything on the internet that says any book in the series has the title though it does refer to one of the main characters.
149norabelle414
>148 superboy:, @humouress
I'm not seeing any references to it either, and the author's website looks pretty up-to-date. I wonder if maybe it's a fanfic? Users might have tried to add it using a different ISBN and then changed the title.
I'm not seeing any references to it either, and the author's website looks pretty up-to-date. I wonder if maybe it's a fanfic? Users might have tried to add it using a different ISBN and then changed the title.
150amanda4242
>148 superboy: Found it! It's a fanfic, so it shouldn't be part of the series.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/25711132
https://archiveofourown.org/works/25711132
151superboy
>149 norabelle414: >150 amanda4242: Thanks :0)
152davidgn
https://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=rochasidney
A bunch of books here under the "Educadores" (Brasilian Portuguese) series were combined into corresponding ISBN books with title "Educadores." They need to be split off and put into series instead of falsely combined. I got a start on the separation but realized there are tons of them. https://www.librarything.com/log_helpers.php?view=workseparation
ETA: Have a series now. https://www.librarything.com/nseries/398885/Educadores
ETA: And pretty sure Sidney Rocha is the series editor or something, so these different volumes in the series should really all have different primary authors.
A bunch of books here under the "Educadores" (Brasilian Portuguese) series were combined into corresponding ISBN books with title "Educadores." They need to be split off and put into series instead of falsely combined. I got a start on the separation but realized there are tons of them. https://www.librarything.com/log_helpers.php?view=workseparation
ETA: Have a series now. https://www.librarything.com/nseries/398885/Educadores
ETA: And pretty sure Sidney Rocha is the series editor or something, so these different volumes in the series should really all have different primary authors.
153davidgn
>152 davidgn: Update:
Got everything off of Sidney Rocha, who apparently isn't involved at all with the series (?)
They now live here:
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/398885/Educadores
Also added a lot of loose copies of the same series that need combination into the others of the same educator names, and a lot of authors in the series also need combination.
ETA: DONE
Got everything off of Sidney Rocha, who apparently isn't involved at all with the series (?)
They now live here:
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/398885/Educadores
Also added a lot of loose copies of the same series that need combination into the others of the same educator names, and a lot of authors in the series also need combination.
ETA: DONE
154avatiakh
Inkflower by Suzy Zail
https://www.librarything.com/work/30668407/t/Inkflower
https://www.librarything.com/work/30668409/t/Inkflower
The second link is also for Inkflower but with no author name and it doesn't recalculate even though I've added the author so I can't combine the books.
https://www.librarything.com/work/30668407/t/Inkflower
https://www.librarything.com/work/30668409/t/Inkflower
The second link is also for Inkflower but with no author name and it doesn't recalculate even though I've added the author so I can't combine the books.
155AnnieMod
>154 avatiakh: Had you ever used the workbench? It allows you to combine even across authors. Someone can combine for you but if you want, you can try with this one.
156davidgn
>153 davidgn: Found more. The capitalized ones need to be combined with the non-capitalized. Just a couple dozen.
157avatiakh
>155 AnnieMod: Thanks, that was easy. I hadn't used it before, just relied on the author recalculation.
158AnnieMod
>157 avatiakh: Awesome. :) It is a nice little tool for cases like that.
159vancouverdeb
Please combine this book https://www.librarything.com/work/34042338/t/Pick-a-Color-A-Novel
with this book https://www.librarything.com/work/34703837/t/Pick-a-Colour-A-Novel
They are the same book and author, but somehow two entries. Thanks!
with this book https://www.librarything.com/work/34703837/t/Pick-a-Colour-A-Novel
They are the same book and author, but somehow two entries. Thanks!
160waltzmn
>159 vancouverdeb: Done!
If you care, this is one you could have done yourself with the Workbench; there were only 19 copies.
If you care, this is one you could have done yourself with the Workbench; there were only 19 copies.
161vancouverdeb
>160 waltzmn: Thanks! I have combined in the past, I will try myself again next time.
162MarthaJeanne
With only a few copies manual combining is often needed because the copies have been entered a bit differently. After a while most of the alternatives are in the main work and there are fewer loose copies.
163humouress
I posted this on the 'information, FAQ & discussion thread' but I'm moving it to here.
Question: I've recently listened to a BBC full cast dramatisation of Dorothy L. Sayer's The Nine Tailors which I borrowed from Overdrive/ Libby. According to the Overdrive record, the ISBN for it is 9781408439081. When I search LT for that number, it gives me the original Nine Tailors book rather than the Nine Tailors BBC dramatisation. Looking through the ISBNs for the original editions there is only one work (with zero copies), which only says 'The Nine Tailors' with no other clarification. Could it have been wrongly combined with the original rather than the dramatisation?
ETA: there are no editions listed in the dramatisation with that ISBN; but Overdrive has it for the dramatisation.
Question: I've recently listened to a BBC full cast dramatisation of Dorothy L. Sayer's The Nine Tailors which I borrowed from Overdrive/ Libby. According to the Overdrive record, the ISBN for it is 9781408439081. When I search LT for that number, it gives me the original Nine Tailors book rather than the Nine Tailors BBC dramatisation. Looking through the ISBNs for the original editions there is only one work (with zero copies), which only says 'The Nine Tailors' with no other clarification. Could it have been wrongly combined with the original rather than the dramatisation?
ETA: there are no editions listed in the dramatisation with that ISBN; but Overdrive has it for the dramatisation.
164paradoxosalpha
I'm a veteran combiner, but I still tend to get daunted by separations. LT currently has 91 copies of Robert Coover's Going for a Beer. Alas, on the evidence of the reviews alone, these seem to be a mixture of the short story and the eponymous collection. Looking at the "editions," I feel no confidence about how to untangle such a snarl.
165SandraArdnas
>164 paradoxosalpha: I suspect the one with the title in quotes at least is just the story, but I'd still be hesitant to separate any without some indication it's indeed a single story, such as ISBN or some other identifier for electronic single story publications.
How long does it take for reviews to sort themselves out after separating? If recalculating title/author does it immediately, one way to go about it is to separate one, recalculate and see if the review corresponds to a single story. If not, recombine. But it's a fair amount of work for dubious purpose because it's possible even those are records for the collection, but the member merely read and reviewed a single story. Not sure I'm very helpful, haha
How long does it take for reviews to sort themselves out after separating? If recalculating title/author does it immediately, one way to go about it is to separate one, recalculate and see if the review corresponds to a single story. If not, recombine. But it's a fair amount of work for dubious purpose because it's possible even those are records for the collection, but the member merely read and reviewed a single story. Not sure I'm very helpful, haha
166MarthaJeanne
I've added a disambiguation notice. All the copies with ISBN are the collection. I don't think you can really do anything else.
167humouress
>163 humouress: Any ideas on this one? I want to post a review for the dramatisation, which has the given ISBN.
168norabelle414
>167 humouress: Regardless of what edition is combined/separated where, your review will be attached to your book so you can post it as you wish. Don't let one zero-copy's ISBN hold you back!
I will say, last month I listened to an audiobook from OverDrive that had the wrong cover, ISBN, and narrator listed. So I'm not inclined to assume that OverDrive's information is correct, particularly on audiobooks that have multiple different editions.
I will say, last month I listened to an audiobook from OverDrive that had the wrong cover, ISBN, and narrator listed. So I'm not inclined to assume that OverDrive's information is correct, particularly on audiobooks that have multiple different editions.
169humouress
>168 norabelle414: Thanks Nora.
I usually add a library book I want to review to my 'read but unowned' collection by ISBN but when I tried it with this one (BBC dramatisation), it automatically went to the (presumably) print edition, not the LT-listed BBC version.
So I suppose I just add it to my catalogue from the work page? I've never done that, by habit, because I want the correct ISBNs for the books I own and, though I'm not so fussed about RBUO books, (before the revamp) the 'add book' button wasn't so reliable.
I usually add a library book I want to review to my 'read but unowned' collection by ISBN but when I tried it with this one (BBC dramatisation), it automatically went to the (presumably) print edition, not the LT-listed BBC version.
So I suppose I just add it to my catalogue from the work page? I've never done that, by habit, because I want the correct ISBNs for the books I own and, though I'm not so fussed about RBUO books, (before the revamp) the 'add book' button wasn't so reliable.
170norabelle414
>169 humouress: The work page "quick add" button is just a quick version of the "add book" page, so it's probably going to give you the same result. Just add the book however you see fit, with the data how you want it to be, and then if your copy is attached to the wrong work, we can fix it at that point.
171humouress
>170 norabelle414: Thanks. I'll give it a go.
172raidergirl3
I added this book:
https://www.librarything.com/work/34483346/297257027
but it is not showing with its series, The No 1 Ladies Detective Agency by Alexander McCall Smith
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/197/No-1-Ladies-Detective-Agency
and I forget how to combine. Well, I have an idea, but i haven't done anything since the series set up has changed and I don't want to mess it up.
Please combine so it is with the series. thank you!
https://www.librarything.com/work/34483346/297257027
but it is not showing with its series, The No 1 Ladies Detective Agency by Alexander McCall Smith
https://www.librarything.com/nseries/197/No-1-Ladies-Detective-Agency
and I forget how to combine. Well, I have an idea, but i haven't done anything since the series set up has changed and I don't want to mess it up.
Please combine so it is with the series. thank you!
173waltzmn
>172 raidergirl3: Done. I hope. Check your copy. :-)
174raidergirl3
>173 waltzmn: it’s there, thank you
175victorianlibrary
Hi,
How would I combine two works when there are no combination suggestions made?
They have two different authors, one Unknown,
Combining
https://www.librarything.com/work/35112370/298780647
with
https://www.librarything.com/work/35112367/t/Walt-Disneys-Comics-and-Stories-No-...
Thanks
How would I combine two works when there are no combination suggestions made?
They have two different authors, one Unknown,
Combining
https://www.librarything.com/work/35112370/298780647
with
https://www.librarything.com/work/35112367/t/Walt-Disneys-Comics-and-Stories-No-...
Thanks
176Felagund
>175 victorianlibrary:
You can use the workbench for that, see https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Book_combining#Combining_Works
You can use the workbench for that, see https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Book_combining#Combining_Works
177victorianlibrary
>176 Felagund: Found it thanks!
178SaintSunniva
I believe this author needs to be separated (is that the term?) There is Mary Perrine who authored two children's books about Navajo children in 1968 Salt Boy (touchstone for it is not working) and 1970 Nannabah's Friend, both illustrated by Leonard Weisgard. And then there's Mary Perrine who authored books in 2021 and 2022, one copy each on LT.
179MarthaJeanne
>178 SaintSunniva: I have split the author page. Or 'divided'.
Thank you for setting the information out so clearly. Another time you could go down to the helper hub and try it yourself. It's very east if you know who wrote which books.
Salt Boy Second book in the others list.
Thank you for setting the information out so clearly. Another time you could go down to the helper hub and try it yourself. It's very east if you know who wrote which books.
Salt Boy Second book in the others list.
180florian_p
Hi:
I tried to combine two copies of "Jugend ohne Gott" by Ödön von Horváth, but the workbench got me some errors:
https://www.librarything.com/work/book/301236470
https://www.librarything.com/work/book/301781201
Could someone please help? Thanks
I tried to combine two copies of "Jugend ohne Gott" by Ödön von Horváth, but the workbench got me some errors:
https://www.librarything.com/work/book/301236470
https://www.librarything.com/work/book/301781201
Could someone please help? Thanks
181MarthaJeanne
Since there are work relationships involved, they can't be combined. The various works are not just the text, but include other materials.
182florian_p
>181 MarthaJeanne: Sorry, I'm new here. Does that mean that they can't be combined even if there is just a small afterword added? Thanks for the reply
183SandraArdnas
>182 florian_p: Afterwords, introductions and such are not grounds for separate works. The relationship between works says one is contained within the other, meaning it has additional material beyond those. There is also a relationship that says it is a study guide for that work. Is it? I'm not familiar so can't say, but the work relationships indicate https://www.librarything.com/work/30211869/t/Jugend-ohne-Gott contains both the text of Jugend ohne Gott and a study guide for it. If not, than first those relationships need to be fixed.
184florian_p
>183 SandraArdnas: Thanks. In this case, the book contains an afterword, some notes on the author and small annotations to the text. There is, however, a study guide available separately (ISBN 978-3-87291-527-6 ), so I would guess that this is a mistake.
185MarthaJeanne
It is very possible that there are bad combinations in there that need to be separated, but I wouldn't want to touch them. For what it's worth, those are not the only works for Jugend ohne Gott. But for things like this that have been published many times with varying helps, critical essays, it is very difficult to know just what is what. Not to mention separate 'Materialien' volumes that may be entered in such a way that they get into the mix. An experienced combiner with access to a good Germanistik library might be able to sort it out
a) if they had the time and inclination and
b) at least most of the entries were fairly reliably done.
If this were dome, things would be much better for a while, but in a few years it would need to be done again.
So the question is, is your copy in a work where it seems to fit? If so, leave it alone. If not, can you identify it on the editions page to separate it and the combine it into a work that you are happier with?
a) if they had the time and inclination and
b) at least most of the entries were fairly reliably done.
If this were dome, things would be much better for a while, but in a few years it would need to be done again.
So the question is, is your copy in a work where it seems to fit? If so, leave it alone. If not, can you identify it on the editions page to separate it and the combine it into a work that you are happier with?
186Cecrow
Main page for Victor Hugo's "Toilers of the Sea"
https://www.librarything.com/work/109221/t/The-Toilers-of-the-Sea
This needs combining into it:
https://www.librarything.com/work/28266350/t/The-Toilers-of-the-Sea-%5BStory-of-...
https://www.librarything.com/work/109221/t/The-Toilers-of-the-Sea
This needs combining into it:
https://www.librarything.com/work/28266350/t/The-Toilers-of-the-Sea-%5BStory-of-...
187MarthaJeanne
>186 Cecrow: Done.
188Cecrow
>187 MarthaJeanne:, merci beaucoup!
189elusiverica
City of Secrets by Marieke Nijkamp (https://www.librarything.com/work/31946710/book/299095515) shows up in my library as an alternate edition of Splinter & Ash (https://www.librarything.com/work/31946710/273427648) when it is actually the second book in the series (https://www.librarything.com/nseries/373668/Splinter-Ash)
190MarthaJeanne
https://www.librarything.com/work/31946710/book/299095515
https://www.librarything.com/work/31946710/273427648
Separated. Note that URLs in () do not act as links.
You had another work duplicate that wasn't. Now fixed. I also combined some of your singletons.
https://www.librarything.com/work/31946710/273427648
Separated. Note that URLs in () do not act as links.
You had another work duplicate that wasn't. Now fixed. I also combined some of your singletons.
191elusiverica
>190 MarthaJeanne: Thank you!
192chocorua
Good day. May I please have some assistance with relating the author of https://www.librarything.com/work/30618821/t/Thomas-Vaughan-and-the-Rosicrucian-... to the Editor of https://www.librarything.com/work/355423/book/303257866?
He is also the editor of https://www.librarything.com/work/5538354/t/Jean-DEspagnets-The-Summary-of-Physi....
I will add some biographical information once the author division is correct. I tried to do this but was struggling, so asking for help as I prefer not to make a mess of it.
He is also the editor of https://www.librarything.com/work/5538354/t/Jean-DEspagnets-The-Summary-of-Physi....
I will add some biographical information once the author division is correct. I tried to do this but was struggling, so asking for help as I prefer not to make a mess of it.
193MarthaJeanne
I don't think the first two are the same. Thomas Vaughan is the only author listed on the second work, and he is hardly the author of Thomas Vaughan and the Rosicrucian Revival in Britain, 1648–1666.
194chocorua
My apologies, I should have been more clear, I'm referring to Thomas Willard who is listed as the author of https://www.librarything.com/work/30618821/t/Thomas-Vaughan-and-the-Rosicrucian-.... He is the same Thomas Willard that is the editor of https://www.librarything.com/work/355423/book/303257866? and also the editor of https://www.librarything.com/work/5538354/t/Jean-DEspagnets-The-Summary-of-Physi....
This indicates Thomas Willard as the author of Thomas Vaughan and Rosicrucian Revival in Britain:
https://brill.com/display/title/57323?language=en&contents=editorial-content
As well as:
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22Thomas%20Willard%22?Ntk=P_key_Contributor_Li...
Also see:
https://www.academia.edu/108473687/Introduction_to_the_Hermetic_Arcanum_of_Jean_...
Thomas Willard specializes in Western esotericcism, especially the works of Thomas Vaughan.
This indicates Thomas Willard as the author of Thomas Vaughan and Rosicrucian Revival in Britain:
https://brill.com/display/title/57323?language=en&contents=editorial-content
As well as:
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22Thomas%20Willard%22?Ntk=P_key_Contributor_Li...
Also see:
https://www.academia.edu/108473687/Introduction_to_the_Hermetic_Arcanum_of_Jean_...
Thomas Willard specializes in Western esotericcism, especially the works of Thomas Vaughan.
195jasbro
>192 chocorua: If you would attempt this yourself, either now or next time:
Please let us know if questions, and good luck (though I doubt you’ll need it).
- go to the Overview tab of a work page;
- drop down to, expand and “Edit” Author Information;
- in the pop-up box, either confirm, edit or add “Thomas Willard” as an author (whether primary or secondary, and of all or some editions);
- save your edit and close out the box; and
- drop down (on mobile) or pan right (on desktop/laptop) to “Recalculate title/author.
- go to that author’s page;
- follow the link to their disambiguation page, e.g. https://www.librarything.com/author/willardthomas;
- find your work in a list, probably “(unknown)”;
- scroll down to “Author division” and click “edit division”;
- under “Assign Works to Authors, for each work you would assign to one or another author of that name, select the corresponding number on the left (you may need to assign a next number if none previously assigned corresponds, e.g. if your Thomas Willard isn’t 1 or 2 but a third);
- consider dropping to the bottom of the disambiguation page to edit the disambiguation note, explaining who you know an individual author of that name (1, 2 or 3) is, distinguished from the other(s); then
- ”Save Assignments.”
Please let us know if questions, and good luck (though I doubt you’ll need it).
196chocorua
>195 jasbro: Thank you for your time and your response. I am familiarizing myself with your instructions, which I appreciate very much (very helpful), but I have a question. When setting the type main vs secondary and the edition as all editions vs some editions, generally how does one know what to select if you only have familiarity with your own edition? By default should I select some editions? or assume it is all editions and just allow someone to correct it later, if need be?
197MarthaJeanne
Argghh! Georges Lefebvre (1)'s French Revolution is a horrible mess. There should be works for Vol 1 (origins to 1793), Vol 2 (1793-1799), complete work and maybe unknown. Instead there are two mixed up works that need to be taken apart. I started, but can't do the whole thing. Is anybody looking for a big time sink?
I moved some of the unknown works to the split.
I moved some of the unknown works to the split.
198SandraArdnas
>196 chocorua: Generally, secondary-all editions are contributors (short story writers in anthologies, essayists in essay collections and such), while secondary-some editions are translators, illustrators, authors of intros, afterwords and such. If it's a main author, I don't think it's possible to be in some editions only, so those will always be 'all editions'. So for instance illustrators who are main authors, say in a graphic novel, will be main-all editions. Does that help?
199chocorua
>198 SandraArdnas: Yes, that makes sense and it does help! Thank you so much. I often get tripped up on technicalities such as this, so I really appreciate the advice.
200Nonconformisto
>198 SandraArdnas: I, also, have had that same question and I appreciate you answering. Thanks.
201jasbro
And with that, this thread is CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #90 -- http://www.librarything.com/topic/377439. Thank you!
This topic was continued by Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #90.

