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Winner of the Nebula Award: In a war-riven world, saving humanity will require . . . a poet? At twenty-six, Rydra Wong is the most popular poet in the five settled galaxies. Almost telepathically perceptive, she has written poems that capture the mood of mankind after two decades of savage war. Since the invasion, Earth has endured famine, plague, and cannibalism--but its greatest catastrophe will be Babel-17. Sabotage threatens to undermine the war effort, and the military calls in Rydra. Random attacks lay waste to warships, weapons factories, and munitions dumps, and all are tied together by strings of sound, broadcast over the radio before and after each accident. In that gibberish Rydra recognizes a coherent message, with all of the beauty, persuasive power, and order that only language possesses. To save humanity, she will master this strange tongue. But the more she learns, the more she is tempted to join the other side . . . This ebook features an illustrated biography of Samuel R. Delany including rare images from his early career. … (more)
kevinashley: Both these books take the relationship between language and thought as central themes. They explore it in different ways but with a similar thoroughness; both really explore just how 'other' alien can be.
LamontCranston: The same ephemeral beat prose.
And of course Space Opera, updated. Strange mystery, assemble a crew of lively characters, go explore it.
One of the most imaginative sci-fi novels i've ever read..
I only bought it because i was looking for a book i read about 30 years ago that i can't remember the title of and thought this may have been it, but it wasn't. But i'm certainly not disappointed to have picked up the wrong book.
There's all kinds of sub-genres in sci-fi and i'm not really sure where this one would fit. It's mostly a deep dive into linguistics, as in how words and language are used and the meanings they convey, and Samuel does a wonderful exploration throughout the book.
It also takes in the future body modification - some interesting things going in this book, and does bring to mind some amazing potential within current science for the future body mod industry. The real future is certainly going to be interesting.
Anyways, well worth a read, and definitely worth it's place in the 'SF Masterworks' series of books. ( )
Great concepts and beautiful prose at times, but I found the writing too confusing to really enjoyit, made me feel like I was too stupid to read this book. ( )
Odd, interesting set of concepts. Very disjointed feeling. There are any number of things that happen in the setting that are glowed over because there it is a normal thing that are very very not. Heavy emphasis on how words shape what you perceive and experience. ( )
My feelings on short scifi books are usually ambivalent at best, but this book was something else. I listened to this on audio, and I feel like I'll have to reread this in physical format, and soon. The ideas in this book are amazing, and I also think the language used by the author is really clever. This is one of those books where the journey felt more important to me than the destination. I don't know why I haven't yet anything else from Delany, but I'll definitely bump up his work on my neverending TBR. ( )
If Babel 17 were published now as a new book, I think it would strike us an great work that was doing wonderful things and expanding the boundaries of science fiction. I think we’d nominate it for awards and talk a lot about it. It’s almost as old as I am, and I really think it would still be an exciting significant book if it were new now.
--this one, now, is for Bob Folsom, to explain just a little of the past year--
First words
It's a port city.
Quotations
A language, however, has its own internal logic, its own grammar, its own way of putting thoughts together with words that span various spectra of meaning. There is no key you can plug in to unlock the exact meaning. At best you can get a close approximation.
If there's no word for it, how do you think about it? And, if there isn't the proper form, you don't have the how even if you have the words.
Last words
And even without Babel-17, you should know by now, I can talk my way out of anything.
Winner of the Nebula Award: In a war-riven world, saving humanity will require . . . a poet? At twenty-six, Rydra Wong is the most popular poet in the five settled galaxies. Almost telepathically perceptive, she has written poems that capture the mood of mankind after two decades of savage war. Since the invasion, Earth has endured famine, plague, and cannibalism--but its greatest catastrophe will be Babel-17. Sabotage threatens to undermine the war effort, and the military calls in Rydra. Random attacks lay waste to warships, weapons factories, and munitions dumps, and all are tied together by strings of sound, broadcast over the radio before and after each accident. In that gibberish Rydra recognizes a coherent message, with all of the beauty, persuasive power, and order that only language possesses. To save humanity, she will master this strange tongue. But the more she learns, the more she is tempted to join the other side . . . This ebook features an illustrated biography of Samuel R. Delany including rare images from his early career.
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The commander of the Earthpeople's Alliance journeyed into the bizarre depths of Transport Town to seek Rydra Wong, the cosmic poetess whose words reached across space and whose mind could perceive the meaning of all the world's tongues. And his request placed her into the heart of the vile interstellar war between the Alliance and the Invaders. The new weapon of the Invaders was Babel-17, a menacing hum clogging up Alliance space communications. Rydra had to decipher the communications power of Babel-17 before it could lead to intergalactic defeat. And to do that, she would have to be the target of the next outer-space attack. a fascinating tale of a famous poet bent on deciphering a secret language that is the key to the enemy’s deadly force, a task that requires she travel with a splendidly improbable crew to the site of the next attack.
I only bought it because i was looking for a book i read about 30 years ago that i can't remember the title of and thought this may have been it, but it wasn't. But i'm certainly not disappointed to have picked up the wrong book.
There's all kinds of sub-genres in sci-fi and i'm not really sure where this one would fit. It's mostly a deep dive into linguistics, as in how words and language are used and the meanings they convey, and Samuel does a wonderful exploration throughout the book.
It also takes in the future body modification - some interesting things going in this book, and does bring to mind some amazing potential within current science for the future body mod industry. The real future is certainly going to be interesting.
Anyways, well worth a read, and definitely worth it's place in the 'SF Masterworks' series of books. (