Them: Adventures with Extremists
by Jon Ronson
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A wide variety of extremist groups -- Islamic fundamentalists, neo-Nazis -- share the oddly similar belief that a tiny shadowy elite rule the world from a secret room. In Them, journalist Jon Ronson has joined the extremists to track down the fabled secret room. As a journalist and a Jew, Ronson was often considered one of "Them" but he had no idea if their meetings actually took place. Was he just not invited. Them takes us across three continents and into the secret room. Along the way he show more meets Omar Bakri Mohammed, considered one of the most dangerous men in Great Britain, PR-savvy Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard Thom Robb, and the survivors of Ruby Ridge. He is chased by men in dark glasses and unmasked as a Jew in the middle of a Jihad training camp. In the forests of northern California he even witnesses CEOs and leading politicians -- like Dick Cheney and George Bush -- undertake a bizarre owl ritual. Ronson's investigations, by turns creepy and comical, reveal some alarming things about the looking-glass world of "us" and "them." Them is a look at the lives and minds of extremists. Are the extremists onto something? Or is Jon Ronson becoming one of them? show lessTags
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lquilter Jon Ronson's "Them" and Tony Horwitz's "Confederates in the Attic" both offer wry, personal observations of cultures, not their own, often derided by others.
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Rating: 4.5* of five
The Publisher Says: From the bestselling author of The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through the Madness Industry and So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed.
Them began as a book about different kinds of extremists, but after Jon had got to know some of them—Islamic fundamentalists, neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klansmen—he found that they had one oddly similar belief: that a tiny, shadowy elite rule the world from a secret room.
In Them, Jon sets out, with the help of the extremists, to locate that room. The journey is as creepy as it is comic and, along the way, Jon is chased by men in dark glasses, unmasked as a Jew in the middle of a Jihad training camp, and witnesses international CEOs and politicians participate in a bizarre show more pagan ritual in the forests of northern California.
Them is a fascinating and entertaining exploration of extremism, in which Jon learns some alarming things about the looking-glass world of "them" and "us". Are the extremists on to something? Or has Jon become one of THEM?
I CHECKED THIS BOOK OUT FROM THE PRIME LENDING SERVICE. USE THEM OFTEN, THEY PAY AUTHORS FOR OUR USE.
My Review: Twenty-plus years on, this book isn't obsolete.
I've never typed a sadder, more fraught sentence in the entirety of my life. Details are outdated, but that in no way invalidates Author Ronson's analysis (though it chops a half-star off...time for a new edition!)
Alex Jones was utterly exposed as the lunatic bigot he really is in this book long before Sandy Hook blew that closet door off its hinges, and yet this complete careful takedown had no effect on his ability to convince people to invest in his idiocy.
In his experience, detailed in So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed (q.v.), people have taken old-fashioned social organization with them into the digital age. The conspiracy theorists of today have a long lineage of hatred for the Jews, a long-standing mistrust of Authority (except of course for themselves; after all, they know The Truth℠, everyone else is a sad little dupe of Them), and no longer have to have a public owning of their nutjobbery.
Emotional dysregulation is far easier to run out of control in parasocial interactions with authority, or authoritative, figures. These are ever-more common events in our social lives as more and more time is spent in internet-mediated contact...post-pandemic there is a huge increase in time spent in and effect of parasocial relationships, which is only exacerbating the ongoing radicalization of younger men in Western society.
Author Ronson, trained as a journalist, is very much a careful observer of the people he speaks to; he does not come right out and say "that was a lie" but he very carefully notes what tells an observant listener and/or reader what marks something out as, in fact, a lie. Staying alert to subtext is, after all, a big part of a journalist's brief...another reason why "They" want fewer trained journalists in the world. It's part of a truly unnerving perversion of the truism that all of us together are smarter than any one of us alone...phrased best by Mark Twain: "When you set aside mere names & come down to realities, you find that we are ruled by a King just as other absolute monarchies are. His name is The Majority. He is mighty in bulk & strength ... He rules by the right of possessing less money & less brains & more ignorance than the other competitor for the throne, The Minority. Ours is an Absolute Monarchy." (Mark Twain at Large, Arthur L. Scott, p. 96-97.)
The jaws of the trap "They" have spent fifty years building, slowly and carefully, are springing shut. I do not know if there is still time to wedge a stick of sturdy truthtelling in them.
I'm sure gonna give it a whirl. show less
The Publisher Says: From the bestselling author of The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through the Madness Industry and So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed.
Them began as a book about different kinds of extremists, but after Jon had got to know some of them—Islamic fundamentalists, neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klansmen—he found that they had one oddly similar belief: that a tiny, shadowy elite rule the world from a secret room.
In Them, Jon sets out, with the help of the extremists, to locate that room. The journey is as creepy as it is comic and, along the way, Jon is chased by men in dark glasses, unmasked as a Jew in the middle of a Jihad training camp, and witnesses international CEOs and politicians participate in a bizarre show more pagan ritual in the forests of northern California.
Them is a fascinating and entertaining exploration of extremism, in which Jon learns some alarming things about the looking-glass world of "them" and "us". Are the extremists on to something? Or has Jon become one of THEM?
I CHECKED THIS BOOK OUT FROM THE PRIME LENDING SERVICE. USE THEM OFTEN, THEY PAY AUTHORS FOR OUR USE.
My Review: Twenty-plus years on, this book isn't obsolete.
I've never typed a sadder, more fraught sentence in the entirety of my life. Details are outdated, but that in no way invalidates Author Ronson's analysis (though it chops a half-star off...time for a new edition!)
Alex Jones was utterly exposed as the lunatic bigot he really is in this book long before Sandy Hook blew that closet door off its hinges, and yet this complete careful takedown had no effect on his ability to convince people to invest in his idiocy.
In his experience, detailed in So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed (q.v.), people have taken old-fashioned social organization with them into the digital age. The conspiracy theorists of today have a long lineage of hatred for the Jews, a long-standing mistrust of Authority (except of course for themselves; after all, they know The Truth℠, everyone else is a sad little dupe of Them), and no longer have to have a public owning of their nutjobbery.
Emotional dysregulation is far easier to run out of control in parasocial interactions with authority, or authoritative, figures. These are ever-more common events in our social lives as more and more time is spent in internet-mediated contact...post-pandemic there is a huge increase in time spent in and effect of parasocial relationships, which is only exacerbating the ongoing radicalization of younger men in Western society.
Author Ronson, trained as a journalist, is very much a careful observer of the people he speaks to; he does not come right out and say "that was a lie" but he very carefully notes what tells an observant listener and/or reader what marks something out as, in fact, a lie. Staying alert to subtext is, after all, a big part of a journalist's brief...another reason why "They" want fewer trained journalists in the world. It's part of a truly unnerving perversion of the truism that all of us together are smarter than any one of us alone...phrased best by Mark Twain: "When you set aside mere names & come down to realities, you find that we are ruled by a King just as other absolute monarchies are. His name is The Majority. He is mighty in bulk & strength ... He rules by the right of possessing less money & less brains & more ignorance than the other competitor for the throne, The Minority. Ours is an Absolute Monarchy." (Mark Twain at Large, Arthur L. Scott, p. 96-97.)
The jaws of the trap "They" have spent fifty years building, slowly and carefully, are springing shut. I do not know if there is still time to wedge a stick of sturdy truthtelling in them.
I'm sure gonna give it a whirl. show less
I love love love the paranoid fringe. Every Friday is FriDDEEEES!!! on Facebook, where I post one of the delightfully insane artworks of paranoid antisemitic David Dees. So this book is a natural fit.
Ronson spent a long time hanging out with figures on the extremist fringe, Thom Robb of the KKK, Rachel Weaver-survivor of Ruby Ridge, Omar Bakri-Osama bin Laden's man in London, Alex Jones of Infowars and many others. The idea was simple, hang out with lunatics, let them explain how the world is controlled by a shadowy conspiracy, and then try and find the conspiracy. After all, the New World Order might be powerful, but they have to meet somewhere. Ronson plays the extremists up for laughs, and they're mostly pathetic and humorous in show more their sadness and confusion. But he doesn't shy away from the very real truths coming out of the conspiracy movement. Yes, the Bilderberg Group is real, and yeah, a hundred-odd business men and politicians meeting in private every year isn't very democratic, but these people rule the world because they're already rich and powerful, not because they're Secret Masters of the Illuminati. Bohemian Grove is legitimately weird and gross, but more because it's the ultimate boy's club with people like Kissinger and Nixon dressing up in drag and drinking till unconsciousness, rather than some kind of Satanic Cult. The Conspiracy is real, but rather banal.
Conversely, while groups like the Anti-Defamation League keep tabs on the extremists and try and hamper their activities, you don't need to scratch a conspiracy theorist to see that the International Bankers or Giant Space Lizards or whatever are actually The Jews. There's some sort of subtle difference between the Conspiracy Jews, and actual practicing members of Judaism and/or people descended from practicing Jews, but given the history of antisemitism, this isn't an area where people get the benefit of the doubt.
Can you have conspiracy theories and extremism without hate? I doubt it. Thom Robb's attempt to reinvent the KKK as some sort of self-actualization support group are some of the funniest chapters, because this Grand Dragon totally misses the point. Hate is fun; hate binds people together. I just wish "they" didn't hate people like me. show less
Ronson spent a long time hanging out with figures on the extremist fringe, Thom Robb of the KKK, Rachel Weaver-survivor of Ruby Ridge, Omar Bakri-Osama bin Laden's man in London, Alex Jones of Infowars and many others. The idea was simple, hang out with lunatics, let them explain how the world is controlled by a shadowy conspiracy, and then try and find the conspiracy. After all, the New World Order might be powerful, but they have to meet somewhere. Ronson plays the extremists up for laughs, and they're mostly pathetic and humorous in show more their sadness and confusion. But he doesn't shy away from the very real truths coming out of the conspiracy movement. Yes, the Bilderberg Group is real, and yeah, a hundred-odd business men and politicians meeting in private every year isn't very democratic, but these people rule the world because they're already rich and powerful, not because they're Secret Masters of the Illuminati. Bohemian Grove is legitimately weird and gross, but more because it's the ultimate boy's club with people like Kissinger and Nixon dressing up in drag and drinking till unconsciousness, rather than some kind of Satanic Cult. The Conspiracy is real, but rather banal.
Conversely, while groups like the Anti-Defamation League keep tabs on the extremists and try and hamper their activities, you don't need to scratch a conspiracy theorist to see that the International Bankers or Giant Space Lizards or whatever are actually The Jews. There's some sort of subtle difference between the Conspiracy Jews, and actual practicing members of Judaism and/or people descended from practicing Jews, but given the history of antisemitism, this isn't an area where people get the benefit of the doubt.
Can you have conspiracy theories and extremism without hate? I doubt it. Thom Robb's attempt to reinvent the KKK as some sort of self-actualization support group are some of the funniest chapters, because this Grand Dragon totally misses the point. Hate is fun; hate binds people together. I just wish "they" didn't hate people like me. show less
Journalist Jon Ronson hangs out with and introduces his readers to a variety of "extremists," from an Islamic Jihadist living in a semi-detached house in London, to a Klansman desperately trying to improve the Klan's PR, to David Icke, who believes that the world is controlled by a secret cabal of alien lizard people. (Or possibly Jews. But he probably really does mean lizards.) Actually, the one thing most of these people have in common is a belief that the world is controlled by some secret group that meets in a room somewhere to pull society's strings, so Ronson also sets out to explore this supposed conspiracy and find that room, if it exists. The result is... interesting.
Ronson comes across as a very laid-back guy with a great, show more low-key sense of humor, and while he does offer us his perceptions of the people he's profiling, he mostly tries to keep his judgments to himself (one notable outburst towards the end aside). Generally, these people and their beliefs come across simultaneously as amusingly wacky in ways that are impossible to take seriously, but also as disturbing or even dangerous... and just occasionally, you can't help wondering if some of them might have a tiny germ of a point in there somewhere, buried in among all the crazy. It's entertaining, but also rather unsettling, and all the more so because it can actually be difficult to tell just who's worth laughing at and who is actually worrying. show less
Ronson comes across as a very laid-back guy with a great, show more low-key sense of humor, and while he does offer us his perceptions of the people he's profiling, he mostly tries to keep his judgments to himself (one notable outburst towards the end aside). Generally, these people and their beliefs come across simultaneously as amusingly wacky in ways that are impossible to take seriously, but also as disturbing or even dangerous... and just occasionally, you can't help wondering if some of them might have a tiny germ of a point in there somewhere, buried in among all the crazy. It's entertaining, but also rather unsettling, and all the more so because it can actually be difficult to tell just who's worth laughing at and who is actually worrying. show less
This book was lots of fun to read, whilst also being quite disturbing. Jon Ronson is so great at exposing the ridiculousness of the extremist's viewpoints and the mundanity of their everyday lives in contrast to their views. So it's enjoyable, funny and readable on that level. It's also super interesting. It was first published in 2001, so it's interesting to see how these extremist have become more and more part of the everyday discourse in 2018. A few very prescient lines about irrational thought sweeping the land. And how brilliant that one of the central conspiracies discussed in it turns out to be pretty much true, but once investigated turns out to be a kind of dull, slightly embarrassing business networking event.
Ronson introduces us to a range of people who all think that some small evil group are in a room somewhere running the world for their own evil benefit. It's just the composition of the evildoers that change; from Muslims, Jews and Catholics to old rich white men to, inevitably, Giant Green Lizards (including Kris Kristofferson; I knew no mere human could have written "Me and Bobby McGee").
Ronson seems to have a lot of luck finding these people to interview, although I guess you make your own luck and Ronson has become the go-to chap for those peddling conspiracy theories.
As with all Ronson books, "Them" is a must read if you want to mix your laughter with a heady dose of "wtf?"
Ronson seems to have a lot of luck finding these people to interview, although I guess you make your own luck and Ronson has become the go-to chap for those peddling conspiracy theories.
As with all Ronson books, "Them" is a must read if you want to mix your laughter with a heady dose of "wtf?"
Picked this book up after reading (and loving) Ronson's [b:The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through the Madness Industry|12391521|The Psychopath Test A Journey Through the Madness Industry|Jon Ronson|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1364166270s/12391521.jpg|14262366]. Them is an enthralling journey to the edges of human sanity. Jon Ronson is very much a character in his own story, and the tale of how his conception of the book he's writing changes over time is just as fascinating as the stories of the men and women he studies. Ronson raises a lot of interesting food for thought about how we draw the lines between madness and sanity, between "disordered" and "normal" - and how blurry those lines can get. I adore his humanistic approach show more to journalism. show less
With an open mind and some charming naivete, Ronson went on an expedition to find not only those who obsess about the secret masters of the world but, just maybe, the masters themselves.
Like others who have actually done honest fieldwork amongst these political exotica, Ronson meets a lot of kind, polite, and charming people -- as long as you happen to be the right race or creed. Many are reasonable and tolerant too -- at least when they don't have any power to realize their visions.
From the vast zoo of modern conspiracy theory, Ronson mostly concentrates on the ZOG/Bilderberg/Trilateralist/Satanist clade which is usually associated with the right wing. But his years of research turn up some surprises.
In pre-September 11th London, show more Ronson hangs out with Omar Bakri, self-described as Osama bin Laden's man in London. In America, we meet Thom Robb, Grand Wizard of some Klan sect in a world rife with internecine sniping, egomaniacs, and FBI informers. His claim to fame? He wants his disciples to follow his self-help program -- oh, and stop using the "N-word". With Jim Tucker, reporter for the notorious and defunct _Spotlight_ newspaper, he attempts to infiltrate the annual meeting of the legendary Bilderberg Group. Then there's ex-British sportscaster David Icke who insists that, when he talks about a conspiracy of world ruling reptilian space alien Illuminati, he really means space aliens and not Jews.
And Ronson doesn't find extremism just among the conspiracy mongerers. The infamous actions of the U.S. government at Ruby Ridge are recounted as well as the press' general inability to see a distinction important to the Weavers and their supporters -- racial separatism as opposed to racial supremacy. The Anti-Defamation League comes across as far too ready to see anti-Semitism and pass its faulty judgements to a gullible media. Canadian activists try to stop Icke from public speaking -- all in the name of racial tolerance. And when Ronson actually interviews a founding member, Denis Healey, of the Bilderbergs on their history and activities, suspicions are not entirely allayed.
Ronson makes few outright comments and judgements on his subjects, provides no grand summing up of his findings and that may be the book's biggest flaw. The closest he gets is the concluding statement that nobody really controls anything. The book is more reportage than analysis. But that reporting is done with a sharp eye for the humorous and sinister. Bakri tells of what a future Islamic London will be like -- and is chided at a meeting of fellow jihadists about his inept fishing. Who is the man following Tucker and Ronson in Portugal during the Bilderberg meeting? Hollywood, a claimed nexus of the Grand Jewish Conspiracy, comes off as petty, apolitical, and a place of insincere boutique faith as Ronson follows Tony Kaye, director of American History X, around. Klansmen argue the merits of silk or cotton robes. Ronson infiltrates the Bohemian Grove -- attended by U. S. presidents and vice-presidents -- and finds a rather silly, decades old frat boy ritual that just doesn't have the same drawing power it used to among the up-and-coming junior world ruler set. And more than once, Ronson, a Jew, finds himself guiltily associating with anti-Semites.
To be sure, some of the books chapters seem extraneous. An auction of Nicolae Ceausescu's relics adds nothing. Neither does a chapter on Ian Paisley taken from an early newspaper article.
Ronson's book reminded me of Phillip Finch's God Guts And Guns which went among the American radical right and the works of Laird Wilcox about American political extremists. Its humor and willingness to consider outre theories like David Icke's reminded me of Alex Heard's Apocalypse Pretty Soon: Travels In End-Time America, the work of Ronson's fellow Englishman Louis Theroux, and the pages of _The Fortean Times_.
Anybody interested in strange beliefs, conspiracy theories, or political extremism should read this book. show less
Like others who have actually done honest fieldwork amongst these political exotica, Ronson meets a lot of kind, polite, and charming people -- as long as you happen to be the right race or creed. Many are reasonable and tolerant too -- at least when they don't have any power to realize their visions.
From the vast zoo of modern conspiracy theory, Ronson mostly concentrates on the ZOG/Bilderberg/Trilateralist/Satanist clade which is usually associated with the right wing. But his years of research turn up some surprises.
In pre-September 11th London, show more Ronson hangs out with Omar Bakri, self-described as Osama bin Laden's man in London. In America, we meet Thom Robb, Grand Wizard of some Klan sect in a world rife with internecine sniping, egomaniacs, and FBI informers. His claim to fame? He wants his disciples to follow his self-help program -- oh, and stop using the "N-word". With Jim Tucker, reporter for the notorious and defunct _Spotlight_ newspaper, he attempts to infiltrate the annual meeting of the legendary Bilderberg Group. Then there's ex-British sportscaster David Icke who insists that, when he talks about a conspiracy of world ruling reptilian space alien Illuminati, he really means space aliens and not Jews.
And Ronson doesn't find extremism just among the conspiracy mongerers. The infamous actions of the U.S. government at Ruby Ridge are recounted as well as the press' general inability to see a distinction important to the Weavers and their supporters -- racial separatism as opposed to racial supremacy. The Anti-Defamation League comes across as far too ready to see anti-Semitism and pass its faulty judgements to a gullible media. Canadian activists try to stop Icke from public speaking -- all in the name of racial tolerance. And when Ronson actually interviews a founding member, Denis Healey, of the Bilderbergs on their history and activities, suspicions are not entirely allayed.
Ronson makes few outright comments and judgements on his subjects, provides no grand summing up of his findings and that may be the book's biggest flaw. The closest he gets is the concluding statement that nobody really controls anything. The book is more reportage than analysis. But that reporting is done with a sharp eye for the humorous and sinister. Bakri tells of what a future Islamic London will be like -- and is chided at a meeting of fellow jihadists about his inept fishing. Who is the man following Tucker and Ronson in Portugal during the Bilderberg meeting? Hollywood, a claimed nexus of the Grand Jewish Conspiracy, comes off as petty, apolitical, and a place of insincere boutique faith as Ronson follows Tony Kaye, director of American History X, around. Klansmen argue the merits of silk or cotton robes. Ronson infiltrates the Bohemian Grove -- attended by U. S. presidents and vice-presidents -- and finds a rather silly, decades old frat boy ritual that just doesn't have the same drawing power it used to among the up-and-coming junior world ruler set. And more than once, Ronson, a Jew, finds himself guiltily associating with anti-Semites.
To be sure, some of the books chapters seem extraneous. An auction of Nicolae Ceausescu's relics adds nothing. Neither does a chapter on Ian Paisley taken from an early newspaper article.
Ronson's book reminded me of Phillip Finch's God Guts And Guns which went among the American radical right and the works of Laird Wilcox about American political extremists. Its humor and willingness to consider outre theories like David Icke's reminded me of Alex Heard's Apocalypse Pretty Soon: Travels In End-Time America, the work of Ronson's fellow Englishman Louis Theroux, and the pages of _The Fortean Times_.
Anybody interested in strange beliefs, conspiracy theories, or political extremism should read this book. show less
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Jon Ronson is a writer and documentary film maker. His books include Them: Adventures with Extremists, Out of the Ordinary: True Tales of Everyday Craziness, What I Do: More True Tales, The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through the Madness Industry, and So You've Been Publicly Shamed. The Men Who Stare at Goats was made into a motion picture starring show more George Clooney in 2009. He will be delivering the opening address at the Brisbane Writers Festival in September 2015. (Bowker Author Biography) show less
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- Original title
- Them: Adventures With Extremists
- Original publication date
- 2001-04-06
- People/Characters
- Jon Ronson; Omar Bakri Mohammed; Rachel Weaver; Randy Weaver; Vicki Weaver; Jack McLamb (show all 19); Gail Gans (Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith); Bo Gritz; Alex Jones (Austin, Texas, radio talk show host); Jim Tucker ("Big Jim Tucker" of "The Spotlight" newspaper and Bilderberg conspiracy fame); David Icke; Thom Robb (KKK); Tony Kaye (filmmaker); Jeff Berry (KKK); Richard Bondira; Richard Butler (founder of Aryan Nations); Ian Paisley; Mr. Ru Ru; Mary Moore (anti-Bohemian Grove activist)
- Important places
- London, England, UK; Ruby Ridge, Idaho, USA; Kamiah, Idaho, USA; Waco, Texas, USA; Portugal; Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada (show all 16); Arkansas, USA; Cameroon; Romania; British Columbia, Canada; Canada; United Kingdom; USA; England, UK; Idaho, USA; Texas, USA
- Important events
- Siege at Ruby Ridge (1992)
- Epigraph
- I think it bodes well for world peace that Friends is a success everywhere in the world. —Lisa Kudrow
When I was coming up, it was a dangerous world, and you knew exactly who they were. It was us versus them, and it was clear who them was. Today we are not so sure who they are, but we know they're there. —George W. Bush, Ja... (show all)nuary 21, 2000
A plume of pearl-grey smoke rose into the sky, marking the spot where the twin towers used to stand—my view, and everything else, forever altered.... Now I am angry. I'm depressed. I'm weepy. I can't control my emotions at ... (show all)all. I want to hug strangers. I want to hurt other strangers. —Jay McInerney, September 15, 2001 - Dedication
- for Joel
- First words
- One evening in 1999, I was in the bathroom at a lecture hall in Frome, Somerset, when David Icke, the subject of chapter six of Them, walked in.
Chapter 1. A Semi-Detached Ayatollah.
It was a balmy Saturday afternoon in Trafalgar Square in the summertime, and Omar Bakri Mohammed was declaring Holy War on Britain.
Preface (September, 2001)
In the hours that followed the heartbreaking attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C., politicians and pundits offered their list of suspects.
(from 2002 Simon & Sc... (show all)huster edition) - Quotations
- "Bilderberg are very secretive," she said. "They don't want people looking into their business. What are you doing there?"
"I am essentially a humorous journalist," I explained. "I am a humorous journalist out of my de... (show all)pth. Do you think it might help if we tell them that?"
Chapter 4, "Bilderberg Sets a Trap!" (p.127)
"The good news," said Sandra, "is if you know you're being followed, they're probably just trying to intimidate you. The dangerous ones would be those you don't know are following you."
... "But that isn't logi... (show all)cal," I said. "Big Jim Tucker is obviously not intimidated. I don't think they'd waste their time trying to intimidate us when it is quite obviously failing."
"You sound a little intimidated, if you don't mind my saying," said Sandra.
"Perhaps so," I said, "but I am not behaving in a visibly intimidated manner. From across the parking lot I do not seem to be intimidated."
Chapter 4, "Bilderberg Sets a Trap!" (p.129)
Indeed, every individual accused of reptilian pedophilia by David Icke had so far failed to sue, including Bob Hope, George Bush, ... Al Gore, and the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group.
"Why do you think that... (show all) is?" David Icke had asked me when I interviewed him about this matter in London. Then he turned to my notepad and thundered, "Come on, Ted Heath! Sue me if you've got nothing to hide! Come on, George Bush! I'm ready! Sue me! I'm naming names! Come on, Jon! Why are they refusing to sue me?"
There was a silence.
"Because they are twelve-foot lizards?" I suggested, meekly.
"Yes!" said David. "Exactly!"
Chapter 5, "The Middlemen in New York" (p.150) - Last words
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