Richardderus thread 2 for 2012
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1richardderus

Welcome to the cocktail party!
To be *perfectly* clear: This isn't a picture of my house, or my shelves...our similar bookcase is in what I am firmly instructed never to call the basement, since it's actually a 700 square foot apartment. And our camelback sofa is about three feet longer than that dark-colored one in the picture, at seven feet.
But ain't it purtimous?
2richardderus
“Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind.”
— Rudyard Kipling
My 2012 NEW books ticker:

My 2012 ORPHANED books ticker:

Books are reviewed in post:
1. Under the Dome...#249.
— Rudyard Kipling
My 2012 NEW books ticker:

My 2012 ORPHANED books ticker:

Books are reviewed in post:
1. Under the Dome...#249.
3London_StJ
Am I first?
I am! Although I was afraid to post and take up what would have been a reserved spot.
I am! Although I was afraid to post and take up what would have been a reserved spot.
6richardderus
>3 London_StJ: Hiya Crypto, yes you win the Derby...and I only use two spaces on every thread so you're perfectly safe. *smooch* Welcome!
>4 cameling: Oh my GODDESSES me too me too!! It almost makes up for the lack of a like button.
>5 jnwelch: Mercy, you're fast, Joe! Glad to see you.
>4 cameling: Oh my GODDESSES me too me too!! It almost makes up for the lack of a like button.
>5 jnwelch: Mercy, you're fast, Joe! Glad to see you.
7London_StJ
Oh good - I'd hate to throw off your groove. xo
8ChelleBearss
Oh here you are :)
9London_StJ
Continued from the last thread: Does Chrome recognize "googling," "googled," or "google"?
11tymfos
9 Let me see: Google, Googled, Googling.
It recognizes "Google" but not the associated verbs.
It recognizes "Google" but not the associated verbs.
12richardderus
>8 ChelleBearss: Hi Chelle!
I've finished The Night Circus, but am planning to cogitate some more before I review it, and possibly re-read a bit.
I've finished The Night Circus, but am planning to cogitate some more before I review it, and possibly re-read a bit.
13alcottacre
I am here too, RD. ((Hugs)) and xx smooches xx for your second thread.
14FAMeulstee
while I was reading only TWO other threads you managed to get the previous full and have 8 13 messages on the new one! unbelievable!
And the good thing is I don't have to star again, the new thing does that too :-)
And the good thing is I don't have to star again, the new thing does that too :-)
15calm
Hi Richard. *smooch* - looking forward to what you have to say about The Night Circus.
16richardderus
>13 alcottacre: *smoochings*
>14 FAMeulstee: I *LOVE* this new continuation function! Love it love it love it!
>15 calm: I am too, calm...I don't quite know yet.
>14 FAMeulstee: I *LOVE* this new continuation function! Love it love it love it!
>15 calm: I am too, calm...I don't quite know yet.
17cindysprocket
Me,too.
18ty1997
political talk
political talk
political talk
political talk
Okay, now your new thread is sufficiently sullied.
political talk
political talk
political talk
Okay, now your new thread is sufficiently sullied.
19richardderus
>17 cindysprocket: It's brilliant. I should go over to the site talk forum and say so, but those people scare me.
>18 ty1997: Tom! How are you, dear heart? I miss seeing you around here, and I can't find your 2012 thread! *darkly hinting*
>18 ty1997: Tom! How are you, dear heart? I miss seeing you around here, and I can't find your 2012 thread! *darkly hinting*
20lauralkeet
So I wasn't off by much when I predicted you'd do this in 2011.
21EBT1002
FIFTY UNREAD on the other thread, then it sends me over here and there are already NINETEEN UNREAD. Outrageous. I'm not even reading them. I can skim and see that you're having delightful conversations about texting and how many posts you have and..... well, I see that ty1997 made some significant contributions to the discussion.......
Meanwhile, I'm going to eat my lunch.
I can't wait until I get The Night Circus from the library......
xoxo
Meanwhile, I'm going to eat my lunch.
I can't wait until I get The Night Circus from the library......
xoxo
22richardderus
>20 lauralkeet: About five days is all, Laura. Good eye!
>21 EBT1002: It's a chatty cocktail party, what can I say, Ellen? My favorite kind: Enough people to be interesting all the time, and few enough to talk to just about everybody a couple times each.
One thing I'll say in advance of my review: The Night Circus deserves every scrap of its hype.
>21 EBT1002: It's a chatty cocktail party, what can I say, Ellen? My favorite kind: Enough people to be interesting all the time, and few enough to talk to just about everybody a couple times each.
One thing I'll say in advance of my review: The Night Circus deserves every scrap of its hype.
23ty1997
19 > Nudge taken http://www.librarything.com/topic/130316
24alcottacre
I completely agree about The Night Circus. I finished it this morning.
25ffortsa
To sully this thread even more, you could have called your cellphone company and asked them to turn off the advertising texts - as I did. Silly boy.
And as for making calls on the cellphone rather than the home phone, I pay per call on the home phone, but not on the cellphone, so I'm actually saving money by doing it - which is good because this smartphone is costing me a fortune!
Good. Now I can read again.
And as for making calls on the cellphone rather than the home phone, I pay per call on the home phone, but not on the cellphone, so I'm actually saving money by doing it - which is good because this smartphone is costing me a fortune!
Good. Now I can read again.
26richardderus
>23 ty1997: Oh good! I've done my part for human rights today.
...what the heck did that mean...?
>24 alcottacre: ...!!...
>25 ffortsa: It was a TracFone. That level of customer service is, frankly, beyond them. What'cha gonna read?
...what the heck did that mean...?
>24 alcottacre: ...!!...
>25 ffortsa: It was a TracFone. That level of customer service is, frankly, beyond them. What'cha gonna read?
27ffortsa
The Anatole France for next week - or something else. We'll see. I left my New Yorker from March 2007 at home, so I can't finish the John McPhee article on chalk deposits until I get there.
28richardderus
I love John McPhee's books. That trilogy on California was excellent. And the one on oranges was fascinating too.
I haven't started The Gods Will Have Blood yet. Uh oh...it's the 12th...only 8 days! How will I ever finish it by then? *chortle*
I haven't started The Gods Will Have Blood yet. Uh oh...it's the 12th...only 8 days! How will I ever finish it by then? *chortle*
29curlysue
Now for a travel agent who can handle transfictional bookings....

and he left a star for your new thread ;)
and he left a star for your new thread ;)
30richardderus
I'll put this down here, instead of up top, but wowza!

I want one of THESE!!

I want one of THESE!!
31FAMeulstee
> 30: THAT looks good!
(btw, I would not mind to have that one in msg 1 either!)
(btw, I would not mind to have that one in msg 1 either!)
32richardderus
>31 FAMeulstee: Indeed not! The one up top for the living room, the one in #30 for the bedroom.
33FAMeulstee
> 32: no, other way around, just to shock LOL
When we had a nude painting in the livingroom it was always funny to see how some people looked for a seat where they could not see the painting.
When we had a nude painting in the livingroom it was always funny to see how some people looked for a seat where they could not see the painting.
35jolerie
I prefer the traditional bookcases versus the one you have in #30, which would be utterly impossible to keep clean without touching multiple unmentionables. :/
Don't tell me that is actually a bookcase that is your house?? (referring to the top image just to clarify)
Don't tell me that is actually a bookcase that is your house?? (referring to the top image just to clarify)
36richardderus
>33 FAMeulstee: Okay! I'm game.
>34 Ape: Ummmm
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...gosh I dunno *whistles away innocently*
>35 jolerie: utterly impossible to keep clean without touching multiple unmentionables Bonus!
Don't tell me that is actually a bookcase that is your house??
Downstairs in the lounge.
>34 Ape: Ummmm
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...gosh I dunno *whistles away innocently*
>35 jolerie: utterly impossible to keep clean without touching multiple unmentionables Bonus!
Don't tell me that is actually a bookcase that is your house??
Downstairs in the lounge.
38ronincats
Oooh-la-la! I love me them bookcases. And The Night Circus, which I also finished today. And the automatic continuation and starring--no more losing your new threads before they are found, if that makes sense. Smooches, Richard Dear.
39msf59
You are on fire sir! And you enjoyed The Night Circus and you requested Habibi. What's next, picking up a Neil Gaiman book?
I love the bookshelves! The ones at the top, not the guy shelves, unless they have a female version.
I love the bookshelves! The ones at the top, not the guy shelves, unless they have a female version.
40katelisim
So many people reading The Night Circus. I should probably jump on the bandwagon at some point.
42richardderus
>37 jolerie: ...*and* it's built in.
>38 ronincats: I know exactly what you mean, Roni, it's all just made of win.
>39 msf59: "Enjoyed" is such a mild term, Mark. It's one reason I'm waiting to write the review, to see if the high lasts.
As to a girl version, yer on yer own mate. I don't wanna see it, so I ain't a-lookin' fer it.
>40 katelisim: I would strongly advise that precise course of action.
>41 tiffin: Two so far. See response to #39 above for reasons I'm waiting to review the first one, and the second isn't as important to me.
>38 ronincats: I know exactly what you mean, Roni, it's all just made of win.
>39 msf59: "Enjoyed" is such a mild term, Mark. It's one reason I'm waiting to write the review, to see if the high lasts.
As to a girl version, yer on yer own mate. I don't wanna see it, so I ain't a-lookin' fer it.
>40 katelisim: I would strongly advise that precise course of action.
>41 tiffin: Two so far. See response to #39 above for reasons I'm waiting to review the first one, and the second isn't as important to me.
43maggie1944
As to books read, in 2012, you are doing better than I. I've only finished one book. Pathetic, eh? Well, I guess I'll trundle off to bed and read some more.......
44ChelleBearss
wow, I go out for a couples hours and come home to find I'm already 21 posts behind!
I love the book cases you had added, both of them!! Although honestly the top one appeals to my sense of decoration a tad more!
I love the book cases you had added, both of them!! Although honestly the top one appeals to my sense of decoration a tad more!
45richardderus
>43 maggie1944: Wise plan, my dear Miss Karen44. I'm almost caught up on my threadies' threads...HA...so I'll follow suit soon.
>44 ChelleBearss: *groan* Do I relate? Do I ever! I need to like fewer people.
The second one is pretty. The books, well, ew.
>44 ChelleBearss: *groan* Do I relate? Do I ever! I need to like fewer people.
The second one is pretty. The books, well, ew.
46tiffin
>42 richardderus:: sowwy. Too much to read here and I missed it. Am reading The Night Circus and am being blown away by it too.
47msf59
Richard- Have you seen "Downton Abbey" on PBS? I just finished a replay of it and highly recommend it. An excellent production. The 2nd season begins soon.
49richardderus
>46 tiffin: I'm sorry, Tui, was that testy? I didn't mean it to be! I was answering straight...ugh no not that...directly, not sniffily, I promise. I cannot believe anyone would not be blown away by TNC. Such...such...well, YOU know.
>47 msf59: I watched it again yesterday, when it was so flippin' cold I wanted to die. I like it. I'm not ga-ga like so many are, but it's head and shoulders above the majority of the poo that's on my TV.
>48 jolerie: *evil Muttley laugh*
>47 msf59: I watched it again yesterday, when it was so flippin' cold I wanted to die. I like it. I'm not ga-ga like so many are, but it's head and shoulders above the majority of the poo that's on my TV.
>48 jolerie: *evil Muttley laugh*
50Berly
Hmmmm...my new bookcase does not have a ladder or manly men. : ( But it does have room for more books!! : )
51bell7
Ooh, I loved The Night Circus. Looking forward to your review!
52richardderus
>50 Berly: An intensely enviable quality, indeed, madam. Though manly men are a draw not to be ignored....
>51 bell7: I expect tomorrow will see it. I'm still brewing, perking, fermenting my responses.
>51 bell7: I expect tomorrow will see it. I'm still brewing, perking, fermenting my responses.
53PaulCranswick
First to thread continuation in 2012 and already 52 posts in number two. Artful cheating by posting such intriguing photography to draw in the weak.
56richardderus
Fritz and Claude are still here, but I could ask Julius and Warren to hop a flight for St. Louie....
57tloeffler
Would you do that for me? 'Cause I'm dying here....
PS You know I'll be back in NYC again the middle of this month for another whirlwind Broadway excursion? You should come and meet Keith & I for lunch...
PS You know I'll be back in NYC again the middle of this month for another whirlwind Broadway excursion? You should come and meet Keith & I for lunch...
58richardderus
**squeeee**
When? If I can, I will!
When? If I can, I will!
59roundballnz
Okay I want both Bookcases ........ at least the second one will keep you warm .... surely ?
60LovingLit
#4 >4 cameling: Oh my GODDESSES me too me too!! It almost makes up for the lack of a like button.
LOL, that is too much :)
#30 ummm, interesting. Do you have to feed them?
#54 I really dont know what to say about that. Apart from OMG that is.
LOL, that is too much :)
#30 ummm, interesting. Do you have to feed them?
#54 I really dont know what to say about that. Apart from OMG that is.
61richardderus
>59 roundballnz: Warm. Yes. Heh.
>60 LovingLit: I feed them, I feed them. Wash them too, which is a LOT more fun.
re:54, OMG about sums it up.
>60 LovingLit: I feed them, I feed them. Wash them too, which is a LOT more fun.
re:54, OMG about sums it up.
63Deern
1,5 days off LT equal app. 100 posts + a new thread. At least I can't lose your threads anymore thanks to the new continuation feature.
And that's YOUR library in the top post? *gasps* How absolutely beautiful!
I'd expect the shelf in #30 to be 'self-cleaning', in its (or their?) own interest. How original!
Re. n*ked men (using the star, because I am not sure what LT allows me to write): last night I had sushi with a friend to celebrate our combined b-days and after having paid the bill we got a 'grappa on the house'. It was served in small porcellain cups and when I looked into mine I saw on the bottom the photograph of a completely n*ked and very 'excited' young man. Told it my friend who thought it was just a "nice flower", but then she put her glasses on and saw she had a very similar picture in her cup. We were a little grossed out, but then saw the funny side and we ended up adding another Euro to the tip. So we got free p*rn for your b-days - maybe because the waiter had felt sorry for the two lonely old ladies.
Btw. the pictures disappeared once the grappa was drunk. We then refilled the cups with water and admired the artwork a little more. And we were wondering if the restaurant couldn't theoretically get into trouble for that and what would happen if somebody did that in the US.
And that's YOUR library in the top post? *gasps* How absolutely beautiful!
I'd expect the shelf in #30 to be 'self-cleaning', in its (or their?) own interest. How original!
Re. n*ked men (using the star, because I am not sure what LT allows me to write): last night I had sushi with a friend to celebrate our combined b-days and after having paid the bill we got a 'grappa on the house'. It was served in small porcellain cups and when I looked into mine I saw on the bottom the photograph of a completely n*ked and very 'excited' young man. Told it my friend who thought it was just a "nice flower", but then she put her glasses on and saw she had a very similar picture in her cup. We were a little grossed out, but then saw the funny side and we ended up adding another Euro to the tip. So we got free p*rn for your b-days - maybe because the waiter had felt sorry for the two lonely old ladies.
Btw. the pictures disappeared once the grappa was drunk. We then refilled the cups with water and admired the artwork a little more. And we were wondering if the restaurant couldn't theoretically get into trouble for that and what would happen if somebody did that in the US.
64Ape
I love the bookshelves! The ones at the top, not the guy shelves, unless they have a female version.
Sorry Mark, I looked and looked, but all I could find was this. You would think they would make them...y'know, bigger. Ummm, so it could hold more books, of course!
Oh, and Richard, I don't know you came across the man-shelf but here is another one for you.
:)
Sorry Mark, I looked and looked, but all I could find was this. You would think they would make them...y'know, bigger. Ummm, so it could hold more books, of course!
Oh, and Richard, I don't know you came across the man-shelf but here is another one for you.
:)
67lauralkeet
>63 Deern:: I love the grappa story! That's absolutely hilarious. Especially the "encouragement" to keep refilling your glass.
68London_StJ
63 - Now I'm curious - does LT censor posts at all?
Love the grappa story.
Love the grappa story.
69Ape
As far as I can tell there is no censor, and I really don't know if there are any forum moderators either. There are Terms of Service, but it seems the only way of being 'caught' abusing the site would be if people flag you.
*Shrug* Could be wrong, but I've never seen anyone censored or had posts deleted unless they were flagged.
Then again, I only visit the 75 group, which is filled with nice wonderful people who are kind and accepting and not likely to spam, fight, orpost pictures of naked men. :)
*Shrug* Could be wrong, but I've never seen anyone censored or had posts deleted unless they were flagged.
Then again, I only visit the 75 group, which is filled with nice wonderful people who are kind and accepting and not likely to spam, fight, or
70maggie1944
The Green Dragon has a couple of very benign "forum moderators" and many participants who will "take on" any one who is straying too far from friendly enjoyable postings. I don't think bad language is on our list of don't do... I think we just try to avoid politics and religion as they seem to cause rude behavior.
I love that Library Thing generally has very considerate participants and therefore "moderation" is seldom needed, and censorship - never as far as I've noticed. Of course, there is an occasional diccie posting about cats.... but I'll say no more.
I love that Library Thing generally has very considerate participants and therefore "moderation" is seldom needed, and censorship - never as far as I've noticed. Of course, there is an occasional diccie posting about cats.... but I'll say no more.
71jnwelch
>54 richardderus: Hah! Now there's a cover I never expected to see. You gave me my first laugh-out-loud of the day!
72MonicaLynn
Wow Richard you are going to have an enormous amount of threads this year if you keep this up :) LOL...
73EBT1002
22 > (yep, way back up there) -- I just checked and I'm now #352 in the library queue for The Night Circus. Good thing they have 127 copies!!
54> That is the most, um, amazing book cover I have ever seen.
eta: Just now seeing the bookcases at the top ----- lovely!!
54> That is the most, um, amazing book cover I have ever seen.
eta: Just now seeing the bookcases at the top ----- lovely!!
74womansheart
Hi, you.
Here to sign on as a groupie and hope to keep up with you, your reading, your reviews and posts. I will not even attempt to keep up with all your other groupies. That would be impossible.
Just between you and me (the tongue is slipping over to the left cheek as I type) I could not get into The Night Circus. I tried, and tried again. Checked it out twice, had my husband do an advance reading, started it two or maybe three times and finally, just returned it to the library. I don't know ... just did not hold my attention. Oh, well.
I will read your review and then see if anything seems attractive enough to wait, and wait to get it again from the library.
It is beautiful here this morning.
I will be in touch again soon.
Here to sign on as a groupie and hope to keep up with you, your reading, your reviews and posts. I will not even attempt to keep up with all your other groupies. That would be impossible.
Just between you and me (the tongue is slipping over to the left cheek as I type) I could not get into The Night Circus. I tried, and tried again. Checked it out twice, had my husband do an advance reading, started it two or maybe three times and finally, just returned it to the library. I don't know ... just did not hold my attention. Oh, well.
I will read your review and then see if anything seems attractive enough to wait, and wait to get it again from the library.
It is beautiful here this morning.
I will be in touch again soon.
75BekkaJo
See, I just thought I'd scan catch up (54 threads since I last checked - out of control!) but then came across the bookshelves. The second ones kinda made my brain fry as I tried to work out if it was real or not...
Not practical though ;)
Not practical though ;)
76archerygirl
I was going to make a vow about actually keeping up with your thread this year and then...wow...second one already? Yay for continuation!
Also, you are the only person I've met with William Rufus in their library. It's on my "must read this year" stack :-)
Also, you are the only person I've met with William Rufus in their library. It's on my "must read this year" stack :-)
77elliepotten
Oh good grief, Ricardo! 5 January and already you're a good way into thread 2. I'm not even going to pretend I read all 200 blue messages on the last thread - though I might peruse this one a little further since I'm sure I saw some naked-man athleticism up there somewhere (different kind of blue, hooray!)...
P.S. Did I miss your review of The Night Circus? Not that it'll sway me ONE BIT because it's already sitting under my bed awaiting my reading attention, but there are several LT reviews a DAY going up on the book page at the mo and I didn't want to miss your take on it!
P.S. Did I miss your review of The Night Circus? Not that it'll sway me ONE BIT because it's already sitting under my bed awaiting my reading attention, but there are several LT reviews a DAY going up on the book page at the mo and I didn't want to miss your take on it!
78ty1997
I wouldn't want that mancase in my house. I mean, what a waste: there are so many better things to do with those men.
79laytonwoman3rd
#30, #54 Just when you think it's safe to read Richard's thread at work....
And what kind of a cocktail party IS this anyway? BYOB???? If so, you should have said. And nibblers...where are the nibblers? (I get grouchy at work.)
And what kind of a cocktail party IS this anyway? BYOB???? If so, you should have said. And nibblers...where are the nibblers? (I get grouchy at work.)
80lauralkeet
>68 London_StJ:, 69: (on censoring) I don't think LT censors either but I recall someone -- Cushla maybe? -- was traveling last year and had to use a computer with parental controls installed, which would prevent her reading threads that contained adult language. So putting asterisks in certain words allowed her to get around that. Now I'm scratching my head trying to remember what racy topic we were all discussing at the time !!
>78 ty1997:: *snort*
>79 laytonwoman3rd:: hear hear!
>78 ty1997:: *snort*
>79 laytonwoman3rd:: hear hear!
81EBT1002
79> Definitely BYOB, I think. And I have some Jordan Almonds here at my desk if you'd like a few. *knoshes*
82laytonwoman3rd
I LOVE Jordan almonds....thanks! I'll bring in some Rice Krispie treats tomorrow.
83cameling
74 posts from the last time I checked in yesterday evening?!!!!!!
I did pause at the beautiful room with that gorgeous bookcase at the top of your thread to salivate .... and wonder if you had moved. ;-)
And then I had to pause again at the second interesting bookcase photo ...but err.... something seems to be missing or defying the laws of gravity in ShelfMan #1.
Did someone say party? I'll bring potato chips
I did pause at the beautiful room with that gorgeous bookcase at the top of your thread to salivate .... and wonder if you had moved. ;-)
And then I had to pause again at the second interesting bookcase photo ...but err.... something seems to be missing or defying the laws of gravity in ShelfMan #1.
Did someone say party? I'll bring potato chips
84Deern
#80: My memory, I'm really getting old! Thank you, now I remember it wasn't LT censorship, it was Cushla's PC. And it was actually no racy topic at all, it was something quite harmless on my own thread. It was a story about a dog running away and crossing a busy street because he'd seen a furless female dog, aka a 'n*ked lady'.
The Child Thief has just arrived here. The reading will have to wait a bit, but the book looks so good!
The Child Thief has just arrived here. The reading will have to wait a bit, but the book looks so good!
85richardderus
>62 LovingLit: Cleaning's a chore, but some things simply must be done. Drat the luck!
>63 Deern: Nathalie, LT doesn't much care about policing the words you use unless they're clearly meant to be offensive, or are used in an inappropriate manner. Here in my little thread, they ain't no problem. JFYI.
I want those grappa cups. Like, NOW. What a laugh!
>64 Ape: Like the man-shelves, though not quite as much as the ones in #30. Thanks for sharing!
Of course, I didn't look at whatever girlie uccchhh you found. A boy has his standards.
>65 msf59: From your response, Mark, I see I made the right decision.
>63 Deern: Nathalie, LT doesn't much care about policing the words you use unless they're clearly meant to be offensive, or are used in an inappropriate manner. Here in my little thread, they ain't no problem. JFYI.
I want those grappa cups. Like, NOW. What a laugh!
>64 Ape: Like the man-shelves, though not quite as much as the ones in #30. Thanks for sharing!
Of course, I didn't look at whatever girlie uccchhh you found. A boy has his standards.
>65 msf59: From your response, Mark, I see I made the right decision.
86richardderus
>66 scaifea: Wise, o Married Mommy. Quite wise.
>67 lauralkeet: Made me snicker, too, Laura.
>68 London_StJ: Not unless language is intended to offend or is used in an inappropriate place...and even then, it would take a user complaint to start any kind of Official Process. To get me to complain, someone would have to get *really* mean and personal.
It has happened to me...and as a result, we now have the ability to really *block* members who offend us. Yeup, that was all down to me getting flamed by a troll a few years back, in a really vicious series of posts and even going so far as to create a sock puppet with my name very slightly misspelled, used to attack others. That's when I went ballistic. I've seldom been so furious.
So now we have the block member function. I use it, though very seldom, for people who insult me personally, and thus avoid escalating wars of words.
>67 lauralkeet: Made me snicker, too, Laura.
>68 London_StJ: Not unless language is intended to offend or is used in an inappropriate place...and even then, it would take a user complaint to start any kind of Official Process. To get me to complain, someone would have to get *really* mean and personal.
It has happened to me...and as a result, we now have the ability to really *block* members who offend us. Yeup, that was all down to me getting flamed by a troll a few years back, in a really vicious series of posts and even going so far as to create a sock puppet with my name very slightly misspelled, used to attack others. That's when I went ballistic. I've seldom been so furious.
So now we have the block member function. I use it, though very seldom, for people who insult me personally, and thus avoid escalating wars of words.
87richardderus
>69 Ape: Who on *Earth* could object to pictures of naked men?! Don't talk crazy talk!
>70 maggie1944: Karen44, I avoid The Green Dragon like it's got cooties because of nasty meanness I encountered (not directed at me, fortunately) in 2007. I just do not have the patience for unpleasantness. Too old, too mean.
And I completely agree...LT is made up of good netizens almost exclusively. Except, of course, for the periodic outbreaks of pro-Satan posts about *shudder* cats.
>71 jnwelch: I laughed out loud, for a good two minutes, when I ran across that one. Glad it amused you too!
>72 MonicaLynn: It won't keep this pace. Never does. I can honestly say that I'm really relieved that's true! Takes a lot of time keeping up with all my chatty friends. GREAT problem to have!
>70 maggie1944: Karen44, I avoid The Green Dragon like it's got cooties because of nasty meanness I encountered (not directed at me, fortunately) in 2007. I just do not have the patience for unpleasantness. Too old, too mean.
And I completely agree...LT is made up of good netizens almost exclusively. Except, of course, for the periodic outbreaks of pro-Satan posts about *shudder* cats.
>71 jnwelch: I laughed out loud, for a good two minutes, when I ran across that one. Glad it amused you too!
>72 MonicaLynn: It won't keep this pace. Never does. I can honestly say that I'm really relieved that's true! Takes a lot of time keeping up with all my chatty friends. GREAT problem to have!
88karenmarie
Regarding the second bookshelf - in the interests of anatomical accuracy, where are the dangly bits?
89maggie1944
Yes, now I remember your saying that you encountered some decidedly unpleasantness in GD a few years ago. I am sorry that happened. It is quite a bit more tame now, and I've not seen anything unpleasant except maybe myself being unpleasant in the direction of authors who arrive just to promote themselves. I don't like it and I tell them so, usually.
90Berly
#54 Is she farting money? Wow!
And as to #64: Stephen, your man-shelves need better lighting. You can't see the books. And there aren't very many. Maybe these shelves are not as strong...
#63 Love the teacups!
Still waiting for a BOOK REVIEW!!
And as to #64: Stephen, your man-shelves need better lighting. You can't see the books. And there aren't very many. Maybe these shelves are not as strong...
#63 Love the teacups!
Still waiting for a BOOK REVIEW!!
91LovingLit
>86 richardderus: troll? sock puppet? Bizarre, some people are very bizarre indeed. (the troll I mean, not you Richard!)
94brenzi
Pardon me while I catch my breath Richard...no it's not the fact that I'm finding it impossible to keep up (although that's certainly true)...it's that stunningly beautiful library at the top of the page! Yours?
And the the man book shelves...so...interesting.
And the the man book shelves...so...interesting.
95alcottacre
((Hugs)) and xx smooches xx for today
96richardderus
Oh dear lord...real life got in the way today. I abandoned ship early because I got a call from my potential publisher asking me to whip it up and deliver the MS sooner rather than later! So guess what I did all day? Right! Listened to The Clash and pretended I was 25 again!
Not really. Sorry peeps, this is a huuuge opportunity for me, and I take it really seriously. It might be a while before reviews appear based on this development.
I love each and all of you! I'm not ignoring you, promise!
Not really. Sorry peeps, this is a huuuge opportunity for me, and I take it really seriously. It might be a while before reviews appear based on this development.
I love each and all of you! I'm not ignoring you, promise!
97jmaloney17
Well welcome to 2012! I finally had a chance to read your 2012 threads. There are fewer than last year, but geez-o-pete, that took forever.
FYI, I like your books.
And, hurry up and review The Night Circus! I loved it and evidently you did too. I can't wait to read your review because I know it will express a lot of what I could not express in my review.
FYI, I like your books.
And, hurry up and review The Night Circus! I loved it and evidently you did too. I can't wait to read your review because I know it will express a lot of what I could not express in my review.
98PaulCranswick
Amid all the talk of naked men and porno ladies Bonnie rightly draws attention to your impressive bookcases!
100richardderus
Read this meme on mckait's thread. Liked it.
1) Find the song that #1 the week you were born. (Wikipedia is your friend here.)
2) Find that song on YouTube.
3) Post your birth-song on your thread!
Mine was "It's Now or Never" by Elvis. Blech.
1) Find the song that #1 the week you were born. (Wikipedia is your friend here.)
2) Find that song on YouTube.
3) Post your birth-song on your thread!
Mine was "It's Now or Never" by Elvis. Blech.
101alcottacre
#96: Fingers and all other crossables crossed for you, RD!
#100: Mine is 'Hey! Baby' by Bruce Channel. I have heard of neither the song or the artist before.
#100: Mine is 'Hey! Baby' by Bruce Channel. I have heard of neither the song or the artist before.
102elliepotten
Good luck Richard! Go, write! :)
103laytonwoman3rd
#96 That's very exciting, Richard. *high five*
#99 Whad I say? whad I say?? (Oh, yeah, I see now. And it's happening again, isn't it?)
#99 Whad I say? whad I say?? (Oh, yeah, I see now. And it's happening again, isn't it?)
104ChelleBearss
Good Luck Richard! We will excuse the lack of reviews for the fact that RL is offering you cool opportunities!
105Carmenere
All I can say about bookshelf #30 is .........Photoshop....... unless, some of these guys have incredible muscle control
ETA: I totally understand about reviews, Richard. You need to follow that opportunity!
**smooch**
ETA: I totally understand about reviews, Richard. You need to follow that opportunity!
**smooch**
107scaifea
#100: Mine was "Jive Talkin'" by the BeeGees. Bwahahaha!
ETA: Happy and Productive Writing, Richard!
ETA: Happy and Productive Writing, Richard!
108jnwelch
Good luck, Richard. Take whatever time you need. We'll keep the party going until you can make it back.
109richardderus
Break time! Glad y'all understand...I am jonesin' to write the review for The Night Circus...I love love love this book...and yet I'm afraid to break focus the way a proper review of something this good requires.
I was *sure* my December of Horror and Pain work stoppage had screwed me totally, and was bummed about it. Then I get this news, and I have to tell you, I haven't felt that good in ages!
Kath, I thought the meme was great! I posted it on Facebook too. I wish mine hadn't been so sappy. I like Amber's, can I have hers? Of course, I bought that BeeGees album new, with my own money, so I guess it wouldn't be my birth song, would it?
I was *sure* my December of Horror and Pain work stoppage had screwed me totally, and was bummed about it. Then I get this news, and I have to tell you, I haven't felt that good in ages!
Kath, I thought the meme was great! I posted it on Facebook too. I wish mine hadn't been so sappy. I like Amber's, can I have hers? Of course, I bought that BeeGees album new, with my own money, so I guess it wouldn't be my birth song, would it?
110elliepotten
The UK number one on my birthday (May 29 1987) was Starship's Never Gonna Stop Us Now. I have no idea what it is, but the name sounds vaguely familiar! I'll have to hit YouTube after work. I can't find the US number one - the website that keeps popping up ain't workin'!
111-Cee-
Wishing you good progress on your writing, Richard!
I loved Night Circus too. :)
I loved Night Circus too. :)
112richardderus
>110 elliepotten: Here is the video for Starship's song. Wikipedia has the US number one hits for every year...in the US, your birth song is a WHOLE lot better than that smarmy Starship tune: With or Without You by U2.
>111 -Cee-: Thanks, Claudia!
>111 -Cee-: Thanks, Claudia!
113TheTortoise
Rich, If you think I am going to read over 200 posts about NOT books, forget it. Just wanted to say thanks for the recommendation of Still Life. I will give it a go and let you know.
Mrs. Tortoise keeps on commenting about the way we do things A*** about face her in the UK. No, no,no, I tell her, everyone else has got it wrong! :)
We have 100 pence to the pound. I preferred it when it was 240. With those big pennies I could buy four farthing chews, excellent value for money! Also pounds and pence just doesn't have the same ring as pounds, shillings and pence. Oh, the good, old days. :)
Alan
Mrs. Tortoise keeps on commenting about the way we do things A*** about face her in the UK. No, no,no, I tell her, everyone else has got it wrong! :)
We have 100 pence to the pound. I preferred it when it was 240. With those big pennies I could buy four farthing chews, excellent value for money! Also pounds and pence just doesn't have the same ring as pounds, shillings and pence. Oh, the good, old days. :)
Alan
114richardderus
"I don't give a brass farthing" is a phrase no longer understood by most, but one I love dearly...along with "where there's muck, there's brass." I used this phrase recently to describe a slush fund here in New York's state government. Got lots of quizzical looks. Sad, how language can be diminished by passing fashion. Like the boring decimal system. A fad, I tell you. Nothing more.
116mckait
I didn't see the writing bit... happens when one is in too big a hurry...
hope the muse stays with you and it all goes speedily and VERY well.
hope the muse stays with you and it all goes speedily and VERY well.
118elliepotten
Thanks Richard! Well, I know the chorus of the Starship one, so I guess I was right about it sounding vaguely familiar. I've never heard the U2 one before (I know, I know, shameful...) but U2 is DEFINITELY the cooler of the two, if decidedly less peppy!
119dulcibelle
>100 richardderus: - Mine was "Love Me Tender" by Elvis Presley. No wonder I was such an Elvis fan as a child!
120karenmarie
#100 Mine's "The Song from Moulin Rouge (Where Is Your Heart)" by Percy Faith (June 1953). Listening on YouTube made my blood sugar levels rise - schmaltzy sweet. But listening to the Connie Francis Version, with the lyrics, isn't as bad. Wait! Wait! She starts speaking the lyrics. Aaaaaack!!!!! Blech.
121calm
I posted these on Kath's thread but here we go
According to wikipedia the No. 1 in the US - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8zx68HENIA
From my book of British Charts the No 1 n the UK - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0RJzRainls
Of course this lets everyone work out how old I am but I guess that doesn't matter:)
Edited to add - have fun writing Richard - see you when you have time:)
According to wikipedia the No. 1 in the US - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8zx68HENIA
From my book of British Charts the No 1 n the UK - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0RJzRainls
Of course this lets everyone work out how old I am but I guess that doesn't matter:)
Edited to add - have fun writing Richard - see you when you have time:)
122cindysprocket
#100 Mine's " Ballerina" song by Vaughn Monroe. Was never a ballerina but I have always liked to dance.
123richardderus
Urgh I can't make another plot diagram or I will commit hara-kiri. I'm done for today. Too much to do, and while I have the offer, I don't have a delivery date, so I can do this at my own pace.
I try and try to convince myself that doing it quick will only mean doing it over, but I am so danged excited that it's hard to be rational and objective!
I try and try to convince myself that doing it quick will only mean doing it over, but I am so danged excited that it's hard to be rational and objective!
124ronincats
Mine is a classy singer, Frankie Laine singing That Lucky Old Sun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDC5xQVks5U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDC5xQVks5U
125richardderus
I like that one, Roni!
126Ape
Mine is "Where Do Broken Hearts Go" by Whitney Houston. Can't do the Youtube on my dial-up connection though.
127cameling
All crossables crossed for you, Richard and the writing. Hope your publisher embraces the revised MS with a big solid affirmative!
128mckait
argh! I don't wanna party... I wanna nap.
So you are done foe the day rd? with wriring?
Question.. have you read Extremely Loud yet?
So you are done foe the day rd? with wriring?
Question.. have you read Extremely Loud yet?
129tututhefirst
OK....I'm here, but I refuse to try to read Thread one and 128 posts of smoochies etal.....but I'll lurk on waiting for one of your fabulous reviews!!
130richardderus
Done with writing for the day.
131FAMeulstee
> 130: not here I hope?
132richardderus
>131 FAMeulstee: Ha! Probably. I'm brain-blown. I need to go watch TV after this nice nap I just had.
133scaifea
#115: Yes!! I love that movie. Not because it was a particularly good movie, but I have a wonderful memory of my big brother taking his kid sister (as he always called me, even up to 2 years ago, when he passed away) to see it in the theater.
135PaulCranswick
#114 RD you are edging towards being an honorary Yorkshireman utilising good old Yorkie sayings such as those. More properly it would be "I wouldna gi a brass farthing fer..." 'Whes thes muck thes brass" is a favourite of mine too but I'm not sure it rings perfectly true as I dug up the whole garden and found sweet Fanny Adams!
136katelisim
A little slow. . . but the #1 song of my birthweek is "Man in the Mirror" by Michael Jackson. I don't like that song. So I hopped over to the UK list, which is "Don't Turn Around" by Aswad. . . I don't like his version, I like it much better by Ace of Base. But I will call this meme a success, for it introduced me to this--the #50 top selling single of 1988 in the UK.
137Berly
"I Wanna Hold Your Hand." Guess who that is by? Anyone? Anyone?
Congrats on your great news Richard. I guess I can live with less LT time from you for THAT reason!
Congrats on your great news Richard. I guess I can live with less LT time from you for THAT reason!
138richardderus
Katie, those Daleks were a SCREAM! But what I really wanna know is where they got that 1967 Ford Galaxie police car in the UK....
*smooches* all around, thanks for the well-wishes, and I am pleased to report my brain fatigue has abated to the point where I can actually follow the plot of a book!
*smooches* all around, thanks for the well-wishes, and I am pleased to report my brain fatigue has abated to the point where I can actually follow the plot of a book!
139PaulCranswick
In the UK The Beatles topped the singles chart with Eleanor Rigby/Yellow Submarine on my birthdate.
In the US top of the Billboard 100 was The Lovin' Spoonful with Summer in the City.
On both sides of the pond the Beatles topped the album charts:
In the UK with Revolver
and in the states with 'Yesterday and Today' which was a compilation album.
In the US top of the Billboard 100 was The Lovin' Spoonful with Summer in the City.
On both sides of the pond the Beatles topped the album charts:
In the UK with Revolver
and in the states with 'Yesterday and Today' which was a compilation album.
140roundballnz
Hmmm apparently mine is "I heard it on the grapevine" (UK) ..... far too soppy for my liking but also hints at my vintage ...sigh!
141ty1997
Sister Golden Hair by America? I don't know. I don't think I want to know.
The UK #1 was Whispering Grass - Windsor Davies & Don Estelle
The Australia #1 was January - Pilot
I'm so glad I was only alive for part of the 70s and don't really remember it.
The UK #1 was Whispering Grass - Windsor Davies & Don Estelle
The Australia #1 was January - Pilot
I'm so glad I was only alive for part of the 70s and don't really remember it.
142richardderus
>140 roundballnz: Alex, you think "Heard It Through the Grapevine" is soppy...the US #1 was Dizzy by Tommy Roe, a justly forgotten bubblegum popster. Warning: inject insulin before clicking on link!
143sjmccreary
Another Elvis for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ6yAYHsHqg
The hair, the suit, the moves, the screaming girls - what fun! I always liked young Elvis better than old Elvis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ6yAYHsHqg
The hair, the suit, the moves, the screaming girls - what fun! I always liked young Elvis better than old Elvis.
144laytonwoman3rd
#142 Uh oh...I actually haven't forgotten Dizzy. I HAD until it was mentioned...
145katelisim
138: I NEED one of those Dalek contraptions. When my friends finally convince me to go to a con, I want that as one of my costumes. As for the Galaxy. . . since they are Timelords, I'm guessing the Tardis and space/time travel had something to do with it.
142: My first thought on seeing the image in the video is that he's clearly a Red Shirt from Star Trek
142: My first thought on seeing the image in the video is that he's clearly a Red Shirt from Star Trek
146roundballnz
Thanks ..... Now I ned something strong to remove that from my brain
147kidzdoc
Surrender by Elvis Presley was #1 on the week I was born. It's better than Dizzy...but not by much.
148jmaloney17
RIchard: Congrats on the MS. I completely understand not writing the The Night Circus review. Good luck with all the thinking.
150EBT1002
Richard, we must be pretty darn close to the same age - my song was also "It's Now or Never" by Elvis. Thank goodness I was too young to care.
151LovingLit
>123 richardderus: Urgh I can't make another plot diagram or I will commit hara-kiri.
chuckle
MS? Is that writer-talk? Glad you are feeling good this year so far and that you are getting publishing deals by the wheelbarrow load. ;)
chuckle
MS? Is that writer-talk? Glad you are feeling good this year so far and that you are getting publishing deals by the wheelbarrow load. ;)
152alcottacre
((Hugs)) and xx smooches xx for today, RD.
153cushlareads
Sounds like great news on the writing front, Richard. I spent some time staring at the second bookshelves to, um, work out how they weren't falling down...
Nathalie, that grappa story is so funny. And yes it was me when I was trying to read your thread while we were on holiday at the Reka in Graubuenden last year.
those songs are so funny, but YOWSER it makes me realize how young some of you guys are. (I confess to loving both the Whitney H and the Starship song when I was a teenager. I think I had the piano music for the Whitney song. Poor Mum and Dad...). I'll check mine and report back. It'll be a cheesy 70s number.
Nathalie, that grappa story is so funny. And yes it was me when I was trying to read your thread while we were on holiday at the Reka in Graubuenden last year.
those songs are so funny, but YOWSER it makes me realize how young some of you guys are. (I confess to loving both the Whitney H and the Starship song when I was a teenager. I think I had the piano music for the Whitney song. Poor Mum and Dad...). I'll check mine and report back. It'll be a cheesy 70s number.
154BekkaJo
'A little peace' by Nicole. Seriously? Who the heck was she? Apparently (from looking at the utube vid) a hippy. With a pretty dire song. Sigh.
In the US it was Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder doing Ebony and Ivory - which I've at least heard of.
In the US it was Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder doing Ebony and Ivory - which I've at least heard of.
155richardderus
>151 LovingLit: "MS" abbreviates manuscript, which is a lot harder to type. I iz a laaazy barstid.
>152 alcottacre: Hi there sweetness! xo
>153 cushlareads: What smacks me upside the head every once in a while is that y'all're born in years I remember with greater or lesser clarity...and have kids and jobs and spouses.
Getting older is interesting.
>154 BekkaJo: *aaack* You really got the booby prize for #1s. They're BOTH dire...although the gents have better hair than that Nicole person. Srsly the 'do looks like the picture of Anne of Cleves's wimple:

>152 alcottacre: Hi there sweetness! xo
>153 cushlareads: What smacks me upside the head every once in a while is that y'all're born in years I remember with greater or lesser clarity...and have kids and jobs and spouses.
Getting older is interesting.
>154 BekkaJo: *aaack* You really got the booby prize for #1s. They're BOTH dire...although the gents have better hair than that Nicole person. Srsly the 'do looks like the picture of Anne of Cleves's wimple:

157FAMeulstee
> 154: with A little peace, originally Ein bisschen Frieden Nicole won the Eurovision Song Contest.
Wich was a BIG event back in those days ;-)
Wich was a BIG event back in those days ;-)
158LovingLit
Re: Nicole
Let's just say that someone could benefit from some hair conditioner to combat frizzy hair.....bless, her, she looks so innocent.
Let's just say that someone could benefit from some hair conditioner to combat frizzy hair.....bless, her, she looks so innocent.
159Deern
#154: 'A Little Peace'/ 'Ein bisschen Frieden' - this is really funny!! I had almost forgotten about this song and all the hype.
Nicole was our one and only ever German winner of the then "Grand Prix Eurovision de la Chanson" (or so), now "Eurovision Song Contest", until 2 years ago when Lena won. If I remember correctly, it was the time of the Falkland war and the juries (no public votes back then) were enraptured by that tiny blonde German teenager with the big white guitar, singing a peace song in 5 languages.
I even got her autograph (I was quite young then, so I hope I'm forgiven) from a session in a local supermarket - so much about stardom.
My birthweek #1 song was 'My Sweet Lord' by George Harrison. Not much better.
Nicole was our one and only ever German winner of the then "Grand Prix Eurovision de la Chanson" (or so), now "Eurovision Song Contest", until 2 years ago when Lena won. If I remember correctly, it was the time of the Falkland war and the juries (no public votes back then) were enraptured by that tiny blonde German teenager with the big white guitar, singing a peace song in 5 languages.
I even got her autograph (I was quite young then, so I hope I'm forgiven) from a session in a local supermarket - so much about stardom.
My birthweek #1 song was 'My Sweet Lord' by George Harrison. Not much better.
161msf59
Morning RD- Still enjoying the mild weather. We have a couple more days of mid to high 40s and then back to winter reality later in the week. I can deal with the cold just stay DRY!
162PaulCranswick
Nathalie - I remember Nicole very well but didn't someone called Nina? win for Germany a little later with 99 Red Balloons? Poor old George Harrison became initially the most successful post Beatles Beatle only to have to give up all the royalties because My Sweet Lord and He So Fine by the Ronettes share exactly the same tune!
163ffortsa
A tidbit I didn't know about, being clueless about popular music for most of my life. But of course the tunes are exactly alike, aren't they? I can hear them in my head.
165Deern
#162: Paul - I'm so impressed you remember her. The other one was Nena - terribly popular in the early 80s, she had a #1 hit in the UK (and the US??) with 99 Red Balloons, but didn't participate in the GP. She had a very successful comeback some years ago, even sang a duet with Kim Wilde in a kind of 80s revival. She is now a jury member in a popular casting show, 'The Voice of Germany'.
So George stole that tune, I didn't know that. *off to look for "He's So Fine'*
So George stole that tune, I didn't know that. *off to look for "He's So Fine'*
166PaulCranswick
Nathalie after posting - I looked up Nena on Wikipedia and Eurovision and yep I was mistaken she didn't appear on Eurovision. Great song that though wasn't it?
Btw Hi RD
Btw Hi RD
167cindysprocket
Richard, How is the MS going? Never did find olive paste. Made my own. Turned out pretty good.
168richardderus
Hi everybody! Glad to see so many faces around the place.
MS report: Busy morning's work from 5a-9a then off to the train station at 10a to drop The Divine Miss off...thence liberry-ward...thence food shopping. Now for a nap.
99 Red Balloons...eeeyyyuuuck...My Sweet Lord was so obviously a lift, it's bizarre he didn't catch it himself...and now for that nap.
MS report: Busy morning's work from 5a-9a then off to the train station at 10a to drop The Divine Miss off...thence liberry-ward...thence food shopping. Now for a nap.
99 Red Balloons...eeeyyyuuuck...My Sweet Lord was so obviously a lift, it's bizarre he didn't catch it himself...and now for that nap.
171womansheart
I'm hopin' to actually reach you sometime soon. I shall persist.
With love, Woofie
With love, Woofie
174Donna828
I wish there was a contest for worst birth week song. I would win *hands down* for Smoke, Smoke, Smoke that Cigarette! Gosh, I am older than dirt!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWXbVsMkz1U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWXbVsMkz1U
175BekkaJo
Wow...that actually might be worse than my hippy...
Though I have more respect for my birth song after Nathalie's comments (159), mainly cos I shamefully love Eurovision.
Though I have more respect for my birth song after Nathalie's comments (159), mainly cos I shamefully love Eurovision.
176ChelleBearss
Haha Donna that's pretty bad!
Mine was in 1981 and I'm surprised I actually know this song!
Sheena Easton - Morning Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3z9dx4U3gw&feature=related
Hi Richard!!
Mine was in 1981 and I'm surprised I actually know this song!
Sheena Easton - Morning Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3z9dx4U3gw&feature=related
Hi Richard!!
177LovingLit
1981! Chelle, you young thing. I remember 1981, granted I was only 6, but I remember it :)
180ChelleBearss
haha Judy, I'll take infant!! 31 this year and feel even older (in spirit I am still a child though ;)
Oh Megan, a mere six years older. Meh, that's nothing! ;)
Oh Megan, a mere six years older. Meh, that's nothing! ;)
181laytonwoman3rd
#176 OMG, I'm your MOTHER!!! (In spirit I'm only about 19, and that face in the mirror belongs to somebody I don't even recognize.)
182lauralkeet
>181 laytonwoman3rd:: I had a similar reaction! I remember where I was / what I was doing when that song was popular (I was in college). And now it's stuck in my head, too, darn it.
Sing it with me! My baby takes the morning train ...
Sing it with me! My baby takes the morning train ...
183ChelleBearss
181/182 you guys make me laugh!!
I was surprised that I was able to sing along, darn my father and making me listen to his "oldies" growing up ;)
I was surprised that I was able to sing along, darn my father and making me listen to his "oldies" growing up ;)
184FAMeulstee
Richard, where are you?
I hope you are okay!
I hope you are okay!
185laytonwoman3rd
Oh Pffftttt Laura---I could nearly be YOUR Mother!
186lauralkeet
Au contraire, dear Linda, methinks we are only about 10 years apart!
187laytonwoman3rd
Yeah, well, I said "nearly". I guess we're more the same generation than not, if you're OK with that!
188richardderus
Hi all...feeling much older than usual today because I've been doing stuff for bureaucrats in search of disability status. I am exhausted, but a good friend of mine is doing a lot of the donkey work. I merely have to answer 32,000,000,001 questions.
Have not written one single word today. Still, it all needs doing.
Tomorrow it should rain, so maybe I can focus in on the book. I like rainy days.
Have not written one single word today. Still, it all needs doing.
Tomorrow it should rain, so maybe I can focus in on the book. I like rainy days.
190Ape
I merely have to answer 32,000,000,001 questions.
That's a common theme in today's society, I think. Y'know how many questions they ask in online job application questionnaires? 32,000,000,002.
That's a common theme in today's society, I think. Y'know how many questions they ask in online job application questionnaires? 32,000,000,002.
191ty1997
Question #32,000,000,002: Are you witty and adorable?
Answer: Yes.
Here's to a happier, writier Thursday.
Answer: Yes.
Here's to a happier, writier Thursday.
192richardderus
>189 ffortsa: AND I have to miss book circle tomorrow! More crap to do, and it can't be put off. Blast.
>190 Ape: Oh my goddesses, I hated filling out job apps...doing them online at least means not getting writer's cramp.
>191 ty1997: *swats Tom with his fan* La, petit ami, you bring the blush to my cheek!
Are you still in Dim Sum World, or is it Sashimiland time?
>190 Ape: Oh my goddesses, I hated filling out job apps...doing them online at least means not getting writer's cramp.
>191 ty1997: *swats Tom with his fan* La, petit ami, you bring the blush to my cheek!
Are you still in Dim Sum World, or is it Sashimiland time?
193rosalita
The upside of online applications is that they are easier to fill out (assuming, of course, that you have a computer and Internet access). The downside is that the lack of a printed version means the creators sometimes don't realize just how dang long-winded they are being!
194katelisim
193: Sometimes they're impossible. I was filling one out where the 'next page' buttons were at the bottom of the page, and, well, I reached a page that was bigger than my screen and didn't come with a scroll bar. It was an in-depth one too and that page came 40 minutes into the process. There was some temper visible at that point.
195richardderus
Filling out forms makes me itch in unscratchable places.
197rosalita
>Yikes! In that case, definitely not easier online. You have to wonder if whoever designed the form didn't at least take it for a test drive to make sure all the parts worked.
198EBT1002
Just checking in after a crazy couple of days at work. I now have a song from my college days stuck in my head (thanks, Chelle --- like Laura and Linda, I well remember that tune!) and I'm feeling your pain, Richard, dealing with bureaucracies and paperwork. UGH. I hope tomorrow is a better day.
I do like Stephen's idea for question #32,000,000,002.
I do like Stephen's idea for question #32,000,000,002.
199ty1997
192 > Still in China today, off to Hong Kong tomorrow, than Tokyo-bound on Saturday. Fingers crossed that they still have some Pepsi Pink in Japan, I want to try it: http://inventorspot.com/articles/meet_pepsi_pink_japans_new_strawberry_milk_flav...
200richardderus
>196 LovingLit: o.0 ...yeeesss...
>197 rosalita: That would make too much sense.
>198 EBT1002: That Stephen...such a card.
>199 ty1997: *retch* Here, you can have mine.
>197 rosalita: That would make too much sense.
>198 EBT1002: That Stephen...such a card.
>199 ty1997: *retch* Here, you can have mine.
201Storeetllr
Trying to keep up with you, Richard, is impossible! Well, anyway, here you are, I found your 2nd thread at last (just in time for you to start a new one). Cheers!
202Ape
In my experience online forms take significantly more time and effort. My local library and a more distant library had paper apps and they didn't take more than 20 minutes to fill out, really.
The online applications all asked the same questions the paper ones did, but then they have you fill out these ridiculously lengthy questionnaires asking the most absurd and contradicting things like "Do you like working at a fast pace?" "Do you like working with others?" ~234234 questions later~ "Are you more productive when you work alone?" "Do you work more efficiently at a slow pace?"
You obviously want to answer in the affirmative but you quickly realize that your answers are contradicting each other. They also ask you a MILLION questions about what you would do in specific situations. "What would you do if a customer..." and none of the multiple choice questions are EVER what I would do. -.-
The online applications all asked the same questions the paper ones did, but then they have you fill out these ridiculously lengthy questionnaires asking the most absurd and contradicting things like "Do you like working at a fast pace?" "Do you like working with others?" ~234234 questions later~ "Are you more productive when you work alone?" "Do you work more efficiently at a slow pace?"
You obviously want to answer in the affirmative but you quickly realize that your answers are contradicting each other. They also ask you a MILLION questions about what you would do in specific situations. "What would you do if a customer..." and none of the multiple choice questions are EVER what I would do. -.-
203mckait
I loathe forms, and I am so form phobic that I get positively stupid when presented with them.
I sympathize rdear
I sympathize rdear
205katelisim
Stephen-- Target had an electronic kiosk that has their applications. They literally make you take a weird type of personality test to see if you're okay for the specific position that you're applying for. . . it told me I wasn't fit for a stocking position. How the hell is anyone not fit for a stocking position?!? Let alone me, who has been stocking things in a customer service situation for (at the time) 5 years? I'd rather have the damn person to person interview, thankyouverymuch.
206bell7
>205 katelisim: That's...wow. You don't have the personality for a stocking position? I don't think those tests very fairly say if you're suited for a position or not. I daresay most personality tests wouldn't say I'm fit for my job as a reference librarian, but despite the fact that I'm an introvert, the library is one of my comfortable places, so I'm perfectly happy making conversation with people I don't know and helping them find what they need. It's actually one of the aspects I like most!
By the way, Richard, I've been meaning to say this for awhile: Congrats on your publisher's interest and good luck in your writing!
By the way, Richard, I've been meaning to say this for awhile: Congrats on your publisher's interest and good luck in your writing!
207maggie1944
Take some comfort from the idea that NO ONE has the personality for a stocking position. It is a ridiculous job, no one should have to do it full time.
208Ape
Katie: I plan on applying at Target with one of their Kiosks the next time I'm in ~the big city far away from here~. It's too expensive to drive back and forth there all the time so I take a day and apply to as many people as possible. My application for their library is expired last month so I'll be doing that very soon. Personality test...how horrifying!
209sibylline
Lots going on here. Good luck with the Disability App. but even more good wishes with your writing project......
210richardderus
Well, it seems the host's absence isn't making a lot of difference to the party-goers! Someone must've found the booze.
Gray and gloomy today...rain showers...*perfect* for reading! I'm expecting company later, so I am not trying to get immersed in my own book. He'll be here overnight, so it's likely to be a while before I recover my equilibrium. We're discussing funding for the web venture, and future roles for each of us.
Exhausting, but necessary. Funny how often I seem to say that.
Gray and gloomy today...rain showers...*perfect* for reading! I'm expecting company later, so I am not trying to get immersed in my own book. He'll be here overnight, so it's likely to be a while before I recover my equilibrium. We're discussing funding for the web venture, and future roles for each of us.
Exhausting, but necessary. Funny how often I seem to say that.
211ty1997
Overnight visitors truly can be exhausting and destroy one's equilibrium........if they're good.
Snowing in Chicago today, I hear. First real snow of the season (I'm not counting the 1/2 inch we'v gotten so far this year). Is there actually going to be a winter after all this year?
Snowing in Chicago today, I hear. First real snow of the season (I'm not counting the 1/2 inch we'v gotten so far this year). Is there actually going to be a winter after all this year?
214laytonwoman3rd
Yeah, web venture??
215LovingLit
>210 richardderus: Well, it seems the host's absence isn't making a lot of difference to the party-goers! Someone must've found the booze
Good one! Nothing like a good chuckle to start the day. Makes up for the trail of baby poo little Lenny left smeared across the room (and himself) this morning. Sorry, hope that didn't give you the heebie jeebies. :)
Good one! Nothing like a good chuckle to start the day. Makes up for the trail of baby poo little Lenny left smeared across the room (and himself) this morning. Sorry, hope that didn't give you the heebie jeebies. :)
217richardderus
>211 ty1997: He's 68. Clearly, since all sex ends at 65 for men and 35 for women, that word good isn't in it. *sigh*
>212 Berly: I shall endeavor to do as instructed, dear Kimmers.
>213 ffortsa:, 214 Yep. Web venture.
>215 LovingLit: Grandfather. No longer gross-out-able by babies and their truly bewildering behaviors. Wonder what he was thinking?
>216 jnwelch: Weinerdog! Wait until your first granchild reacquaints you with diapers. *evil Muttley laugh*
>212 Berly: I shall endeavor to do as instructed, dear Kimmers.
>213 ffortsa:, 214 Yep. Web venture.
>215 LovingLit: Grandfather. No longer gross-out-able by babies and their truly bewildering behaviors. Wonder what he was thinking?
>216 jnwelch: Weinerdog! Wait until your first granchild reacquaints you with diapers. *evil Muttley laugh*
218MonicaLynn
Richard, Thank god for the Continue this topic because otherwise at this rate I would lose your thread LOL.. Snow is coming to my house this weekend. :( I was hoping we could continue this no snow streak...
219jnwelch
>217 richardderus: Ah, yes, I'm in that wonderful diaper-less time before grandchildren. Seems worth celebrating, doesn't it?
220richardderus
>218 MonicaLynn: I myownself adore the continuation feature! And snow in winter doesn't sound so bad, until I remember my shovel's busted.
>219 jnwelch: My diaperless interval was likely shorter than most, as my first grandchild arrived when I was 42. Of all the ways she didn't emulate me, I wonder why she chose the have-kids-young way to mimic dear old pops?
>219 jnwelch: My diaperless interval was likely shorter than most, as my first grandchild arrived when I was 42. Of all the ways she didn't emulate me, I wonder why she chose the have-kids-young way to mimic dear old pops?
223richardderus
>221 Ape: Old people shouldn't be enjoying themselves.
>222 brenzi: That sure is how it felt! Waaay too early for me.
>222 brenzi: That sure is how it felt! Waaay too early for me.
224Ape
You're looking at it all the wrong way. It's not themselves they should be enjoying, but eachother. Awww, see, now isn't that sweet? Granted old men have difficulty being 'sweet' between the ages of 65 and 90, but it's not entirely impossible.
226mckait
My mom was 39 when my Adam was born...
hmmm this won't post. My last post double posted..
even though I only clicked one time. I wonder what's up?
hmmm this won't post. My last post double posted..
even though I only clicked one time. I wonder what's up?
227London_StJ
My Gram was, er, 41 or 42 when I was born, and my mom was 43. I'm very happy that my boys will know my grandparents, since we have always been so close.
228jnwelch
That's the advantage of being a grandparent young - the grandkids get to know their grandparents well before it's sayonara time. But I'm going to try to address that by living a long time. Neither of my kids wants to have children right now, so my odds of continuing a diaper-less life for a while are pretty good.
Oh-oh, I can hear the Depends jokes coming . . .
Oh-oh, I can hear the Depends jokes coming . . .
229richardderus
By world standards, 42 isn't young to be a grandparent, not at all. My own experience was, however, of having grandparents already in their 60s and 70s when I knew them. My mother was 40 when I was born, so that made all the difference.
Okay, off to a brainstorming breakfast. Wish me luck.
Okay, off to a brainstorming breakfast. Wish me luck.
231laytonwoman3rd
#228...Yes, I was toying with the idea of saying I'd probably be needing diapers myself again before grandchildren are in prospect...if they ever are. But I won't say that! ;>)
232ChelleBearss
Hi Richard! Hope you found something yummy for breakfast! My mom is bringing me Tim Hortons tea witha buttery cheese bagel, mmmmm!
To cast in on the age conversation, I will be having kids later in life in my mid-30's (later than some anyway) and my parents will be older grandparents (mid 60's) but Nate's parents are younger and will be young(ish) grandparents at 50 and late 40's.
To cast in on the age conversation, I will be having kids later in life in my mid-30's (later than some anyway) and my parents will be older grandparents (mid 60's) but Nate's parents are younger and will be young(ish) grandparents at 50 and late 40's.
233laytonwoman3rd
My grandmothers seemed so much older than women of the same age do now. That's not just my retro-perception from a child's viewpoint, either. When I look at photos of my grandmothers when they were the age I am now, it startles me. I'm sure I look younger at 60 than my grannies did at 48. They were vital, active, hard-working women 'til the end, but they left their youth behind early.
235scaifea
My parents were in their 40's when I was born (I was a big surprise!), and both sets of their parents were long gone before I came around. I can't say that I feel all that deprived, because I had a wonderful childhood, but I'm really glad that My mom and dad are around for Charlie - they're amazing grandparents!
236ffortsa
>233 laytonwoman3rd: Ah, yes. The image of my grandparents, especially my mother's mother, at 50 was older than my mother looked at 75, and a lot older than I look now at 63 (almost). It's not just that our perceptions have become more forgiving with our own age. The wear and tear, the styles of dress and hair, the level of struggle, the degree of optimism and spirit all play a part in how we present to others. At least, I think so.
238richardderus
My father's father was 80 when I was born, and my only memories of him are of his 1959 Oldsmobile being driven terrifyingly badly on the highways of LA. Pictures show me that he was dapper and debonair at our first meeting.
My father's mother was 5'4" and 300+lbs. She was warned she'd die unless she lost weight by three successive doctors, each of whom she outlived. Died at 89 in 1989. Never looked a day over 60.
Mama's parents were more aged-looking because they lived in Texas, spent more time outdoors, and were meaner than Dad's parents. When Mama died, she was 79 and looked 65.
Dad's still whinnying with us, is 86, and looks 70.
I got my head shaved as a sign of mourning, I've lost ~40lb this past year (can't eat when I'm in pain, don't want to eat when I'm depressed, hey whatever works, right?), and when my colleague saw me today for the first time in 3mos, he blurted out, "No wonder the young guys like you, you look like you did when you were 35!"
God bless genetics.
My father's mother was 5'4" and 300+lbs. She was warned she'd die unless she lost weight by three successive doctors, each of whom she outlived. Died at 89 in 1989. Never looked a day over 60.
Mama's parents were more aged-looking because they lived in Texas, spent more time outdoors, and were meaner than Dad's parents. When Mama died, she was 79 and looked 65.
Dad's still whinnying with us, is 86, and looks 70.
I got my head shaved as a sign of mourning, I've lost ~40lb this past year (can't eat when I'm in pain, don't want to eat when I'm depressed, hey whatever works, right?), and when my colleague saw me today for the first time in 3mos, he blurted out, "No wonder the young guys like you, you look like you did when you were 35!"
God bless genetics.
239katelisim
I had to look up what year my grandma was born. . . She was 38 when I entered the world, my grandpa was 48, I think, and he's still around. He just bought another house even. That 70 year old man owns 4 houses now.
240PaulCranswick
My Gran was born in 1906 and was 60 when I was born. My mother was the third of her daughters and was born in 1945 on VJ night (Victory over Japan) and was therefore called Vivienne Joy. Her sisters were born in 1926 and 1928 respectively and the elder one my Aunt Cynthia (incidentally and appropriately born on Halloween) had a son in 1944. Therefore my mother had a nephew older than herself. My first car in Malaysia was selected solely on the number plate....J-EN1906. J stands for Johor EN would by my grans initials Ethel Newitt and 1906 I mentioned above. I relocated to Malaysia three weeks after my Gran's passing in 1994.
241richardderus
“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”
― Franklin D. Roosevelt
Should be tattooed on every presidential candidate's dick, so they'd have to look at it every day.
― Franklin D. Roosevelt
Should be tattooed on every presidential candidate's dick, so they'd have to look at it every day.
242PaulCranswick
Surely not every President would have such an enormous Dick! What about if Hilary makes it to the White House?!
243richardderus
What about if Hilary makes it to the White House?!
Never, ever happen. More's the pity.
Never, ever happen. More's the pity.
244jeanned
>241 richardderus:: Yes.
245LovingLit
>238 richardderus: when my colleague saw me today for the first time in 3mos, he blurted out, "No wonder the young guys like you, you look like you did when you were 35!"
Have to take the good with the bad right!?
>243 richardderus: *staying firmly away from politics talk*
Have to take the good with the bad right!?
>243 richardderus: *staying firmly away from politics talk*
246ty1997
245 > I now have this running through my head:
You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the facts of life, the facts of life.
Oh, Mrs Garret.
You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the facts of life, the facts of life.
Oh, Mrs Garret.
247mckait
interesting thought on the tattoo.. but I agree that it would
be a problem for women candidates... Hillary already know what is right, but there re.. others.
be a problem for women candidates... Hillary already know what is right, but there re.. others.
248maggie1944
Thanks for a great quote, Richard. I stole it and posted it on FB, too. Sigh. The silly season is so long these days....
249richardderus
REVIEW: NUMBER ONE of a planned seventy-five
Title: UNDER THE DOME
Author: STEPHEN KING
Rating: 4.25* of five
The Book Report: Chester's Mills, Maine, is having itself an ordinary morning, and its citizens are gettin' up to all the usual things: Spending too much of their husband's money, killing girls, beating up people they don't like and driving them out of town, making evil brews, only thing missing really is a bonfire and a faggot. Business as usual for the human race, in other words.
*WHAM*
Down comes the Dome.
No way in, no way out, no one can understand the nature, the origin, or the purpose of the Dome inside or outside of it. National security issues crop up. The town misfit, an Iraqi war vet, is called back into national service to solve the mystery. And then things get **really** ugly: The local used car salesman takes control.
Think Nixon with a mean streak and a Big Fat Secret to protect.
"From Bad to Worse" could be the subtitle of every Stephen King novel, but this time it's so so so so bad and then it gets so so so much worse that the reader is calling out to Divine Providence for the mercy of Death...and then comes The Twist. The Dome is revealed to be...but no, you have to read it.
My Review: Stephen King = what Chuckles the Dick would've been if he'd had talent.
Just sayin'.
I hated liking this book. I resented the demands on my gouty wrists and fingers, supporting its mammoth weight, flipping the pages faster and faster and faster as I got more and more sucked in to the story. I snorted snobbily at myself, caught up in this not-terribly-sophisticated narrative. None of which stopped me finishing the book and sighing with mitigated contentment at its sudsy, gloriously cinematically trajectory. I can see the miniseries...I want to see the miniseries! soon please!...unfold in my mind. It's what Stephen King does brilliantly: Tells you a story of human nature, irrefutably making points that need making about Mankind and its flaws, while wringing your withers with fear, excitement, and sadness.
The Dome was a really cool narrative device. I liked its unknowability, I was completely on board with mystery forces causing it who-knows-why...and then we find out why. I wasn't especially interested in that part, and felt it was a tidge unimaginitive coming from Mr. Shock-and-Awe himself.
Eh...so what...I had over 1000pp of reading pleasure. It's like potato-chip sex. The kind you have because you can. It still feels good, and no way are you gonna stop just because it's meaningless.
(I suppose this last isn't comprehensible to my girly readers of either gender.)
Relax. Enjoy. Don't think too much. You'll end up in a much better mood than you started out in.
Title: UNDER THE DOME
Author: STEPHEN KING
Rating: 4.25* of five
The Book Report: Chester's Mills, Maine, is having itself an ordinary morning, and its citizens are gettin' up to all the usual things: Spending too much of their husband's money, killing girls, beating up people they don't like and driving them out of town, making evil brews, only thing missing really is a bonfire and a faggot. Business as usual for the human race, in other words.
*WHAM*
Down comes the Dome.
No way in, no way out, no one can understand the nature, the origin, or the purpose of the Dome inside or outside of it. National security issues crop up. The town misfit, an Iraqi war vet, is called back into national service to solve the mystery. And then things get **really** ugly: The local used car salesman takes control.
Think Nixon with a mean streak and a Big Fat Secret to protect.
"From Bad to Worse" could be the subtitle of every Stephen King novel, but this time it's so so so so bad and then it gets so so so much worse that the reader is calling out to Divine Providence for the mercy of Death...and then comes The Twist. The Dome is revealed to be...but no, you have to read it.
My Review: Stephen King = what Chuckles the Dick would've been if he'd had talent.
Just sayin'.
I hated liking this book. I resented the demands on my gouty wrists and fingers, supporting its mammoth weight, flipping the pages faster and faster and faster as I got more and more sucked in to the story. I snorted snobbily at myself, caught up in this not-terribly-sophisticated narrative. None of which stopped me finishing the book and sighing with mitigated contentment at its sudsy, gloriously cinematically trajectory. I can see the miniseries...I want to see the miniseries! soon please!...unfold in my mind. It's what Stephen King does brilliantly: Tells you a story of human nature, irrefutably making points that need making about Mankind and its flaws, while wringing your withers with fear, excitement, and sadness.
The Dome was a really cool narrative device. I liked its unknowability, I was completely on board with mystery forces causing it who-knows-why...and then we find out why. I wasn't especially interested in that part, and felt it was a tidge unimaginitive coming from Mr. Shock-and-Awe himself.
Eh...so what...I had over 1000pp of reading pleasure. It's like potato-chip sex. The kind you have because you can. It still feels good, and no way are you gonna stop just because it's meaningless.
(I suppose this last isn't comprehensible to my girly readers of either gender.)
Relax. Enjoy. Don't think too much. You'll end up in a much better mood than you started out in.
250-Cee-
>249 richardderus: Nice review, Richard!
well, I know it will be - you never disappoint on that count :)
well, I know it will be - you never disappoint on that count :)
251maggie1944
hmmm, thinking...I guess this means I can provide my praise for the completed review
comments on #249: Sound interesting if I had not sworn off Stephen King a couple of decades ago. My TBR piles are plenty large enough as of now and I have just started Life which numbers over 500 pages. Praise the gods and goddesses for my Nook.
comments on #249: Sound interesting if I had not sworn off Stephen King a couple of decades ago. My TBR piles are plenty large enough as of now and I have just started Life which numbers over 500 pages. Praise the gods and goddesses for my Nook.
253gennyt
*Sprinting to catch up.... *Catching breath after sprinting...
If I'm not too late to add a birthday No. 1 song: mine was The Kinks You Really Got Me - classic early/mid 60s sound. Quite pleased with that one - love the middle eight instrumental when the guitars go mad!
If I'm not too late to add a birthday No. 1 song: mine was The Kinks You Really Got Me - classic early/mid 60s sound. Quite pleased with that one - love the middle eight instrumental when the guitars go mad!
254kidzdoc
>250 -Cee-: LOL!
255tututhefirst
"My Dreams are getting Better all the TIme" = although I've never heard of it, it seems an appropriate song to be at the top of the hit parade the week of V-E Day.
Age discussion is quite interesting--all sides being well represented.
My way of saying Richard....your thread is impossible to keep up with on a weekly basis so consider yourself Smooched.
Age discussion is quite interesting--all sides being well represented.
My way of saying Richard....your thread is impossible to keep up with on a weekly basis so consider yourself Smooched.
257sibylline
I just saw 'Beginnings' last night and I beg to differ about oldsters! What a fine film! That Christopher Plummer! That Ian McE. Golly. We sat up talking for about an hour afterward too, just about everything to do with life and love. Good movies make that kind of thing happen.
263curlysue
only thing missing really is a bonfire and a faggot.
Stephen King = what Chuckles the Dick would've been if he'd had talent
it's like potato-chip sex.
LOL I lurve you Richard!
great review :)
ETA: thumbed!
Stephen King = what Chuckles the Dick would've been if he'd had talent
it's like potato-chip sex.
LOL I lurve you Richard!
great review :)
ETA: thumbed!
264Matke
Hysterical, wonderful review, Rdear.
"wringing your withers", indeed.
Perhaps you could assemble a book of your reviews; I think there's a pretty good market for them. Just sayin', Sweet Thing.
"wringing your withers", indeed.
Perhaps you could assemble a book of your reviews; I think there's a pretty good market for them. Just sayin', Sweet Thing.
265calm
for 249 - at last!This has just been bumped up the TBR - it has been sitting on the Shelves of Shame too long.
*smooch*
270msf59
RD- Thanks for the heads-up! I would have missed that fine review! And you liked it too! I've read most of his later books, but, (maybe because of it's sheer freakin' size), I haven't got to this one.
271alcottacre
I am returning the favor and visiting before the thread police shut down this place.
((Hugs)) and xx smooches xx, RD!
((Hugs)) and xx smooches xx, RD!
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