Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #61

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.

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“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
http://www.librarything.com/work/AAAAAAAA
http://www.librarything.com/work/BBBBBBBB
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ ”

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-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .
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Please recall gangleri's post 200 on thread 60 ( http://www.librarything.com/topic/161182#4520841 ), and help us address it if you can. Thank you.

I believe gangleri's first problem was the "buried author" problem, where sometimes combined authors get buried under another level of combination (and associated works thus don't show at the top level), and I think this was fixed. I think his second problem is that any links placed in the "Links" box of an author that doesn't get top billing after combinations (i.e. isn't chosen as the "main author") remain buried.

gangleri, the only way I know of, currently, to "rescue" those links, if you can't recall them from memory, is to separate out the author name that had the links, copy and paste them into the "main author", and then recombine the author name. There's yet another wrinkle: if you've already added a link to one author, you can't use the same link text and URL on another. Putting in a small difference (e.g. a trailing slash in the URL) is enough to avoid this problem.

I believe a work has been erroneously combined.

The Beacon Press publication The World's Great Religions: An Anthology of Sacred Texts edited by Selwyn Gurney-Champion and Dorothy Short which I own is NOT the same as the Time-Life series The World's Great Religions.

Mine is a Premier Book reprint - see the cover shot at http://www.librarything.com/work/1994851/23842865#

That should be enough to show the Gurney-Champion book ISBN 0486427153 is not the Time-Life book.

http://books.google.com/books/about/The_World_s_Great_Religions.html?id=wEjIX4Fl...

is the 2003 Dover republication of the Beacon (and Premier) book and verifies what I am saying. It is not a Time-Life book.book from Time-Life.

#5 by @slickdpdx> working on it ...

#5 by @slickdpdx>

Ok, I separated out what I think were all the editions of your work and they now live at http://www.librarything.com/work/14695531/. It was probably the autocombiner's fault.

I'm not sure if your cover isn't there because of a delay or because it's irrevocably attached to the other work (another combiner could better answer). Though it will probably appear to you that it's there unless you view the "work-only work page".

I also separated out some of the individual volumes and attached them to the appropriate work. Though I left in the really ambiguous editions (the ones with just a title and no author or ISBN), under the assumption that in most cases they probably refer to the Time-Life work.

Thank you so much! I can probably grab the cover photo and bring it over

It pays to wait a bit, It May show itself in a bit

http://www.librarything.com/author/barkscoleman

I think Coleman Barks should be separated from Rumi (Jalal al-Din Rumi). Although he has translated many of Rumi's works, he has also written books of his own.

Can someone take a look at this?

Much obliged, as always.

#10 by @barney67> : See if Coleman Barks and Jalal al-Din Rumi look better. Thanks!

http://www.librarything.com/author/martinmeredith

Not sure how to fix this one.

1) Meredith Martin, an English professor at Princeton, wrote The Rise and Fall of Meter. It won the Warren-Brooks award (2012).

2) Meredith Martin, an art professor at Wellesley, wrote Dairy Queens.

3) Martin Meredith (note the name) wrote The Iguana Den's Care.

No, the Iguana book is also by a Meredith Martin, at least according to the book cover and WorldCat. Also according to the LT author information. I would assume that the author has the name entered correctly. I've done the division. Any information you have about them can go in CK on the divided pages.

Please add a notice that Amy Wagner, Contributor to this work http://www.librarything.com/work/11037012
is not the same person as Amy Wagner, Author http://www.librarything.com/author/wagneramy

Thanks!

Combination issues that I couldn't fix.

http://www.librarything.com/author/irvingjohn/issues

15>Done.

Poems by John Keats

http://www.librarything.com/work/14550/105908287

This book is a 1927 reproduction of Keats's 1817 volume, but it's combined with a bunch of 'complete poetry of Keats' type of books. It shouldn't be, I guess, but I don't know how to separate it from the others. Is there some trick to identifying the edition you're interested in, when there's no ISBN? Either way, I'd appreciate some help with this.

Only three things separate editions; Title, Author Name, and ISBN. If two books are combined that shouldn't be because all three are the same, change one of them, usually adding a disambiguating note to the title. If you can't change them, they can't be separated.

Help & Apologies.
In attempting to unite Eoin Mcnamee's works written under the name of John Creed..
I first split the two different John Creeds - John Creed http://www.librarything.com/author/creedjohn&norefer=2

I then tried to combine John Creed1 with Eoin McNamee http://www.librarything.com/author/mcnameeeoin

But this resulted in the works of both John Creeds being attached to McNamee.

Can someone put right what I did wrong? And explain to me my idiot mistake?
I promise not to fiddle again.

You don't combine, you alias.

For next time - go now to the division page, then at the top see the tab to alias divisions. There you can see that I have put the last bit of the author URL - mcnameeeoin - in.

I've taken the CK out of John Creed. If you want, you can reenter it in John Creed 1. It's all in McNamee, so I didn't bother.

ETA I thought someone else was fiddling at the same time!

I think it helps to see it once, but you should be fine to do it yourself next time. Remember we all started not knowing what to do. And all of us have had to ask for help cleaning up mistakes.

#19 by @greydoll>
It's ok. Thanks for reporting it. I've separated out the names again. What you want to do in cases like this is use aliasing instead of combining. I don't blame you for thinking you can combine a split author with another one ... there is a "Combine with" area on the John Creed (1) page after all. I've complained to the staff about this but they haven't done anything about it. Anyway ...

I've left the aliasing for you to do. On the right-hand side of the John Creed disambiguation page, click "edit the division" again, then there will be an option near the top to "Alias divisions to other authors". Click that and you'll want to alias John Creed (1) to mcnameeeoin and you should be set.

ETA: actually, MarthaJeanne has done the aliasing already, so it should be good to go.

#20 by @MarthaJeanne> "I thought someone else was fiddling at the same time!"

:-) There should be a way to mark messages on this thread with "I got this one!" without having to use up a post first, haha.

The problem is, I like to go and see if I can handle it first, and get to fiddling, ...

I'd feel awfully foolish posting, 'I have this one!' then two minutes later, 'Uh, well, actually ... what I mean is well, maybe someone else should try.'

Haha, too true.

#20-24 - MarthaJeanne and omargosh
Many thanks for sorting and help.

Pretty sure I combined some that I shouldn't have. I'm going through these to figure out which are the novel and which are the movie, but I can't tell by ISBN which is which. I don't know if DVDs have ISBNs. I assume not, in which case…

http://www.librarything.com/work/91550/editions

>26 barney67: Some DVDs do have ISBNs.

All the ISBNs for editions of that book seem to belong to books though, so if people in there have the film, too bad, they should have cleaned/picked their entry's data better.

#26 by @barney67>: It looks like you managed to re-separate the combination OK. Right now, all but six records on the Editions page have ISBNs, which should indicate they're actually books, not movies. (In my limited experience, here under my own private rock, movies don't get International Standard BOOK Numbers; I'd welcome clarification on that point.) Of the six, three have titles including "A Novel," and one is a no-copy record, which I don't expect will skew the algorithms too badly if it's really celluloid instead of paper (including digital substitutes of each). Of the remaining two, I suppose we could separate them out, solely to view them in the respective members' catalogs (if public), then decide where to recombine them based on what (if anything) we glean from the individual record. For myself, that seems a lot of trouble where each record states "by Joyce Maynard"; then again, movies occasionally get entered as being "by" the stories' original Authors or featured actors/actresses, and not by their directors, screenwriters or producers (e.g., there's at least one record for One flew over the cuckoo's nest video recording "by" Ken Kesey instead of Miloš Forman). I don't see a need to disturb those entries, but I would defer if anyone disagrees. Thanks for your help!

Thanks for that bit of info, Jarandel. Clearly, I wasn't aware!

>28 jasbro: http://www.isbn.org/faqs_isbn_eligibility

"DVDs may not get an ISBN if they are entertainment or performance videos. If the DVD is instructional or educational, then the DVD is eligible for an ISBN."

30 > "may not" or cannot?

I assume it is 'may not' as in not allowed.

http://www.suhrkamp.de/reihen/filmedition_suhrkamp_23.html

These DVDs have ISBN's, for example.

That's a good example. These aren't entertainment, but documentaries about various authors, and come with 'umfangreiche Booklets', (extensive booklets) of documents and photographs. A more modern way of presenting the extra information they have always published 'to' various books.

#30 by @Jarandel> : It seems a fair assumption, then, that records of To Die For that include ISBNs more likely than not represent Joyce Maynard's novel instead of Gus Van Sant's movie.

Please combine (Ultima Thule: ...) by Matti Lainema & Juha Nurminen

Authors involved (2 different):
Matti Lainema
Juha Nurminen

Works to combine:
Ultima Thule : Oppdagelsesreiser i Arktis
Ultima Thule : Arctic explorations
Ultima Thule : arktiska upptäcktsfärder
A History of Arctic Exploration: Discovery, Adventure and Endurance at the Top of the World

#36 Done. Also combined with Die Entdeckung der Arktis.

# 37 Thanks

Please combine...
http://www.librarything.com/work/3294752/covers/106228810
http://www.librarything.com/work/574470

and if possible get rid of the silly cover. I flagged it as Not a Cover a few days ago, but see it's still there.

Thanks!

>39 SaintSunniva: Combined, and +1 vote on the "not a cover", but that won't make it go away iirc, just not be offered as a suggestion for other members.

Did apparently manage to nudge the current default for the work to another one though.

The covers still stay there, I've seen covers with 15+ votes as inapplicable/not a cover, and yet there they sit, available to all. :| The only thing it seems to impact is whether they show as the cover for those w/o the work.

I need help combining two authors. If you look at this disambiguation page, you will see three separate Patricia Lynch entities:

http://www.librarything.com/author/lynchpatricia&merge=1

The third entity ("unknown") should be combined with the first. All of those titles were written by the first Patricia Lynch. I'm not sure how to do this, though. Thanks for any help!

Re: #42: never mind! I figured out how to do it.

#43 by @AbigailAdams26> There is still one work (Holiday at Rosquin) attributed to "unknown".

Hello nice people,

After all these years, I am still not sure how to combine these works:
http://www.librarything.com/work/12760428/summary
http://www.librarything.com/work/35468

Thank you!

k4k

>45 krazy4katz: Done. When the authors are missing from the stray copies you can add them with the feature about half page down, recalculate author, follow the link to author page and merge from there.

Do you think these additions should be separated?

http://www.librarything.com/work/379799/editions

Barry Moser does the illustrations for the seventh edition.

45, 46 > But you need to remove extra copies of the author afterwards. (For information of people new to this.)

>46 Jarandel:, 48 Thanks Jarandel and MarthJeanne. I will try that next time. k4k

http://www.librarything.com/work/465044
http://www.librarything.com/work/9073006
http://www.librarything.com/work/5786372

are the same work. If I understood what MarthaJeanne said on previous thread, a way to deal with a book attributed to different authors, like this one, is to combine them and then separate them again--but 1) I might have misunderstood the advice and could do more harm than good, and 2) there are so many works under 'author unknown' and 'Rodale Press editors' that it would take centures to separate them out again. Cheers.

No! don't combine the authors! Chose one of the authors and add it to the other books under 'other authors' on the main work page of the works that don't have that author.

In this case, use William H. Hylton. Not so much because he is the right author (although he must be. He's the one I used. ;-) ) but because that is the easiest author page to deal with.

Afterwards you will have to remove the extra copies of that name from other authors.

I can do it if you like.

Ah, now I see. In a way, at least--I've added Hylton's name to those other listings but amn't sure I did next step right: I separated Rodale Herb Book from other works by non-Hyltons & presume that now I must wait a bit for separated works to show before I can combine them with Hylton . . . ?

I don't know about waiting for anything, but I combined the zero-copy edition with the main work (zero-copies often don't show up in the list on the combination page).

(I also removed the extra Hyltons from it)

How long does it take for new authors to get into search?

I'm being somewhat difficult, as I am entering a series of books where the author is sometimes listed as Friedrich Hampel and sometimes as Friedrich J Hampel. I would like my entries to match the books, but also all the books to show up on the same author page. The first book was entered on Friday, and neither author name shows up in search yet.

If it's going to take ages for the names to show up in search, is it possible to combine authors without using search, and would someone please do it for me?

For some reason I seem to be the only one on LT with these early 20th century Viennese cookbooks.

My understanding is that the search indexes are updated nightly, LT time, so you shouldn't have to wait more than 24 hours.

Question: should I combine two omnibus edition, with different titles but the same exact contents? These two books book contain the first three Winnie the Witch picture-books:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13429822
http://www.librarything.com/work/4399673

I'm not sure what the policy is here... combine because they have the same content, and then maybe add something to the description? Or keep them separate, because of the different titles? Thanks for clarifying.

56>Same content gets combined. You'll need to take out the Canonical title. I would enter both titles in alternative titles. (US and UK editions often have different titles, never mind translations.)

55> Friday is more than 24 hours ago.

Hi

Please put these two books

http://www.librarything.com/work/4087156
http://www.librarything.com/work/368981

into

http://www.librarything.com/author/rossalexander-2

Thanks Jeff

Done

henkl

Thanks

Jeff

P.S. I was going to try for a speed skating metal but you guys won almost all of them.

Probably because speed skating is a very popular sport in the Netherlands, and almost nowhere else.

http://www.librarything.com/work/14765994
http://www.librarything.com/work/14765992

The first is a 0 copies.

>62 MarthaJeanne: Done

Please combine
http://www.librarything.com/author/groggerpaula
http://www.librarything.com/author/paulagrogger

>64 SaintSunniva:: Done!

54> still waiting for search to find these authors.

BTW Whoever changed the author name on two of the books, I have changed them back. Having my author name lead to a 0 work page is not the answer.

If it's going to take ages for the names to show up in search, is it possible to combine authors without using search, and would someone please do it for me?
Done.

Thank you.

http://www.librarything.com/work/9566276 (0 copies)
http://www.librarything.com/work/740626

Yes, that's right. German and most translations are called Fabian. The English translation is different.

http://www.librarything.com/work/11878032 (0 copies)
http://www.librarything.com/work/2798725

>69 MarthaJeanne: Done

Thank you. I learned something there. Always check the work before you mark it as contained in! Everything looks fine now.

:)

65> still waiting for search to find these authors.

Right. If it doesn't work you should write up a bug report for it.

please combine
1 done
http://www.librarything.com/series/LTB%2520Spezial
#32
thanks

#74 by @supersidvicious>
Done

please combine
1 done
http://www.librarything.com/series/LTB%2520English%2520Edition

thanks

#76 by @supersidvicious> Done.

please combine
1 done
http://www.librarything.com/series/LTB%2520Sonderband

thanks

78: Done

please combine
1 done
http://www.librarything.com/series/LTB+Enten-Edition
2 done
http://www.librarything.com/series/LTB
3 done
http://www.librarything.com/series/LTB%2520Sonderband
4 done
http://www.librarything.com/series/LTB%2520English%2520Edition
thanks

I'm hoping this post will make sense:

I combined an edition with a different title with http://www.librarything.com/work/295816/book/97316058. The edition I combined, Man on Wire, listed (rightly) books by the tightrope-walker Philippe Petit, though the edition I linked to above listed only a (mis-spelled) French book by a different Philippe Petit: http://www.librarything.com/work/10758931. Apparently I combined in the wrong direction, as it were. So I tried to separate into two Philippe Petits, assigned the second one (2) and assumed I would be given the option to add works by the first P. Petit that I could assign to another number. I wasn't, though. What to do next? Cheers. Again.

>81 bluepiano: There were some people who entered their author as "Philippe Petit" (wrong) rather than "Petit, Philippe" (correct), resulting in 2 distinct author pages at "philippepetit" and "petitphilippe". Combined them and did a rough division of the works.

Ah, I see. Ta. Nothing whatsoever to do with combining but since previous post I've somehow inadvertantly reduced print size on this site (only). Any notions on how to revert to normal size?

>83 bluepiano: On Chrome Ctrl + mouse wheel up or down will modify that, or Options > Zoom > 100% (for default size)

>80 supersidvicious: I've done #1 and am working on the others. For #2, I don't know for sure that all of them need to be combined, since there are some different titles. Therefore, I will leave those seperate for now.
Edited to add: I've cleaned up all 4 series, with the exception of the different titled ones on #2.

I need help combining two book. If you look at the following series listing, you will see the first entry twice:

http://www.librarything.com/series/All+About+Us

Although I have tried to combine them, the first one doesn't appear under the combine page for the author. Not sure what to do... thanks for the help!

Hmmm. They were only available for combination on the editions page, which I did, but it may now be a caching issue.

I tried to combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/14785314
with
http://www.librarything.com/work/617119

but have only achieved to by mistake combine the author Maria Pavlovna with http://www.librarything.com/author/pavlovnamaria
instead of
http://www.librarything.com/author/mariegrandduchessofr

I don't want to mess this up more than I already have done, so could someone please help?

I don't know what the problem is here.

http://www.librarything.com/author/ebelingrichardm/issues

#88 by @prussia_cove>
That's a bit of an ugly case, because there are apparently three different women that could be called Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna of Russia (plus variations), and LT isn't helping because of the way it handles long author names and parenthetical content when creating author pages and displaying search results. I think a combine-then-split might be in order for all the potentially ambiguous author strings, but there is so much CK there already, and at least in this case, most of the cataloging is pretty consistently distinctive for the two Mari(a/e)s on LT, that I'm not going to bother.

All I've done is separated out mariapavlovnaprinses from the names currently showing the M.P. 1786-1859 works and reattached it to the names currently showing the M.P. 1890–1958 works. From there you should be able to combine.

Thanks. I don't know what happened here either.

http://www.librarything.com/author/clarkbob/issues

All that needs to be copied to the proper page, and then deleted. Only the disambiguation notice stays on a disambiguation page. The point is that this information only applies to one of the people with that name.

I've done some of it.

Thanks, 2wonderY! Another issue: I added an anthology that I am currently reading, but because it is the hardcover, and listed under a different editor, I can't combine it with the paperback. I fixed my copy, so the order of the editors is correct (the first should be Pat Donlon), but can't figure out what do to from there. Here are the editions that need to go together:

http://www.librarything.com/work/14786271/summary/106944683

http://www.librarything.com/work/5303540

Thanks for the help!

#94 by @AbigailAdams26> Done.

Thank you!

Please combine:

https://www.librarything.com/work/4277
https://www.librarything.com/work/9056000 (lacks author in record)

>>97 thornton37814: (thornton37814):
Done

I don't do this often enough if ever to remember how to fix author issues.

The series The Russians (https://www.librarything.com/series/The+Russians) had co-authors for the first three books, and just one of the authors finished the remaining four.

#1
Book 4 assigned to the old co-author incorrectly* : https://www.librarything.com/work/161342

#2
There's an extra work for Book 5 :
https://www.librarything.com/work/161384 with incorrect author and most books/editions
https://www.librarything.com/work/9930986 with correct author

#3
Book 6 incorrect author : https://www.librarything.com/work/161418

Thank you.

*It probably comes from Amazon, where I've just submitted updates

>>99 amarie:
I did the combining and made sure that the books also show on the page of the correct author.

I did not change the primary author, given the number of people who have that author listed.

This illustrator's author page, Carol Wilde https://www.librarything.com/author/wildecarol is missing a book that she illustrated, https://www.librarything.com/work/2515824/106991698.

But perhaps this is a bug, not a combining issue?

>101 SaintSunniva: When I click on her name on the work https://www.librarything.com/work/2515824/106991698, it takes me to her author page, but then the book itself is not listed. I tried both name locations - at the top of the page, and in the field for other authors.

>102 SaintSunniva:
It's because the book as you see it is different from how everybody else sees it (one of the confusing things about LT that took me a long time to wrap my head around), and what one copy shows as role-holders aren't necessarily the same as what other copies have. If you click on the "work-only work page" at lower right, you can see how it looks to people that don't have the book. And you'll see there that Carol Wilde isn't listed as an illustrator, but you can add her. Half-way down the page, there should be a link reading "add other authors". From there should be able to add Wilde, Carol as an Illustrator, and then the work will appear on her page.

Hi

Please fix http://www.librarything.com/author/stevensonrobertlewis

I'm finding this more and more.

Thanks Jeff

>104 jefbra:
Hi Jeff. What is it that you're seeking to fix about it? If you'd like it to go away, it won't; as long as somebody cataloged their book that way, there will be a page like that. Since it seems pretty obviously an error for Robert Louis Stevenson, it's probably just best to combine it with that author page. Not sure if this the answer you're seeking.

omargosh

It was the 0 members.

Jeff

>106 jefbra: ...What about them? That's not how his name is spelled, so accordingly, there are no books on the inaccurate page. I'm not sure what you're looking for.

>104 jefbra:
Ah, I see now that you cataloged one of your books that way, then probably followed the author link, but since your copy got autocombined to other copies of The Master of Ballantrae, nothing was there on the page for the incorrect spelling (sorry about that "obviously an error" comment). So you can either 1) fix how your book is cataloged, or 2) combine the empty page to the correct one, or 3) both. Then you should be good to go.

Anytime I follow an author link that isn't what I expect in some way, I go back to my book and look at the work title and author. Once I know how my copy is different fron the work I can usually figure out whether some kind of correction is needed, or separation, or combination., or whatever.

please combine
1 done
http://www.librarything.com/work/4336886
http://www.librarything.com/work/4665412
http://www.librarything.com/work/5789565

thanks

110>I combined the two You can't win them all books, and You can't win with the work of that title.

http://www.librarything.com/work/14800894/editions (0 copies) belongs with
http://www.librarything.com/work/2322525/editions

(That ISBN refers to a book that came out in 1988. It can't include the 1994 materials.)

Whoops, found another
http://www.librarything.com/work/14800907/editions

I've done the first and third with http://www.librarything.com/work/3843248 , but have foreborne (is that the right word?) combining the second also because it appears to be only Volume 1 of 2. Instead, I'm combining it with other volumes 1 of 2. Does that work?

Re-ETA: Oops! Sorry; that seems to have been your point -- they're all v. 1 of 2. Fixing now; please give me 5 minutes & check again ... now. Thanks!

Thank you. Looks good now.

I'm not sure which page to link to, so here are two:

https://www.librarything.com/work/365290

https://www.librarything.com/author/grabercorrine

How to combine my Corrine Graber with others' Corrine Grabers? I see the problem with her name in the link, but I've re-entered her name, tried to combine it, deleted her co-author, and still my Corrine is an empty set. Cheers.

>115 bluepiano: The problem is her name is spelled Corinne, not Corrine. If you edit your entry to the proper spelling it'll go to the proper place.

Thank you! I checked the spelling of her name repeatedly yet couldn't spot the problem. You've given me the idea of spelling a name/book title aloud if something like this arises in future--perhaps that will help with such blind spots.

Haha, yeah your brain sees what it's "supposed" to see, a lot harder to spot that sort of thing when you're the one who's done it. ;)

Another question: If a book contains only one story, play, etc. should it be kept separate from or combined with another edition containing that same work along with many others by the same author? An example being

http://www.librarything.com/work/1398412/book/97272071

http://www.librarything.com/work/1398412/book/97557752

The first is a fattish collection of Thomson's poems; the second is slim illustrated one with only one poem. I'm sure this must have been asked before, so apologies in advance.

>119 bluepiano:
Separate. And after they've been separated, if you want, you can set up a "contains / contained in" work-to-work relationship between the two works to show how they're related. And no need (in my opinion) to apologize for asking.

It's also a good idea to put disambiguation notices on the two works to try and prevent them being recombined.

Cheers to both of ye. Shall do. . . And occasionally I come upon, on author page, an e.g. poem included in an anthology containing poems by various writers that is listed as a separate book by that author: what's the simplest way to correct that?

>120 omargosh:--what a piquant user name--apologies were for asking a question that I'm guessing has been asked & answered frequently by combiners admirable and indefatigable. (Apologies for simply asking a question are offered only when curiosity overcomes politeness--'I do so hope you'll forgive my asking, but why is there an anchovy glued to your ear?' )

#122: And occasionally I come upon, on author page, an e.g. poem included in an anthology containing poems by various writers that is listed as a separate book by that author: what's the simplest way to correct that?

I don't understand what you're trying to correct. Anthologies that include a work by an author should, if someone has gone to the work of adding the information, include the author as a contributor. I would discourage the adding of individual short poems, but should they be added, they will appropriately be listed on the poet's author page.

>122 bluepiano:
Thanks. I don't think I followed your problem case in 122 very well ... maybe post an example the next time you come across one? As for asking an already asked question, well, we all find cases that we're not sure about, and I'd also rather answer a question again than clean up a mess later. :-)

I noticed quite some time ago that one of the authors I liked has a genuine anomaly.

I've deleted the rest of this, and posted the problem over on Bug Collectors. Thanks, >126 MarthaJeanne: for the help.

The LibraryThing Author connections are done by staff.

> 125, 126: That's some pretty stiff staff stuff! At least we got a good list of Editors & Contributors for Rogues in Hell out of it (I think) . For anyone wanting to follow Lyndatrue's post further, please see http://www.librarything.com/topic/171239#4585791 . Noting that RiH is #14 of 14 (so far) in a Series, anybody wanna tackle Editors & Contributors on volumes 1-13? (FWIW, Amazon.com's RiH page gave me a peek at the title & contents, which I used to complete Other Authors.) Thank y'all!

The following books seem to be treated as the same title. The second is a sequel of the first. Please separate.

http://www.librarything.com/work/8977506/book/79672774
http://www.librarything.com/work/8977506/book/84499732

Thanks

>128 Canadian_Down_Under:
workin' on it ...

Ok, I think your new link for the sequel should be at http://www.librarything.com/work/14816068/book/84499732 now. It was a bit confusing, because there appear to be two titles for the sequel (Cats & Daughers in UK and After Cleo Came Jonah in Australasia, and I dunno what in the U.S. :-)), but I think it should be better now. Let me know if you see any more problems with it, or if I'm just plain wrong on the multiple title thing. Thanks.

Authors -- I can't do this right now, because the author won't show up in the search.

http://www.librarything.com/author/junguamgbumarko Jung Uamg-Bu Marko and http://www.librarything.com/author/bujungmarkoang Marko Ǔang Bujung should be combined. (And if someone wants to explain the best way to enter that name into the system, I'm all ears. The cover shows you the printed name, and an alternate transcription written below it in pen. I may even try and transcribe the Chinese version of the name, but not tonight.)

>130 prosfilaes: Done.

> 123, 124: Found one here:

http://www.librarything.com/author/bramahernest

Great Short Stories of Detection, Mystery and Horror (whose editor is Dorothy Sayers, not Bramah) includes only a story by Ernest Bramah but is listed here as one of his works, which to me implies that he wrote the book . . . but perhaps I've got it wrong and even a contribution rates as a 'work' ?

>132 bluepiano: Because someone listed all the numerous contributors as "main" rather than secondary authors. Once that's fixed the book should move in the "Also by" section lower on the author page.

>132 bluepiano:
Whoever set the "other authors" on that work decided to make all 60+ contributors as main authors with no role set, which seems a bit odd to me. I don't have that book, so I don't know if there's some reason for them to have done that, but usually with anthologies, I add everybody but the editor(s) as secondary authors, and with the "Contributor" role (unless they wrote the foreword or whatever, of course). That way the work will appear on the contributors' author page below the fold, in the "Also by ..." section (I agree that otherwise, in this case for example, it implies Bramah was involved with the creation of the work as a whole). You can change things for that work by clicking "Add/edit other authors" on the main work page and editing each of the names in the pop-up.

Could you please combine these two?
The one in English language is a translated version of the original Japanese language. I don't know which one is to be based upon ...

English Upside Downers by Mitsumasa Anno
https://www.librarything.com/work/3245527
Japanese さかさま by 安野光雅
https://www.librarything.com/work/8910139

Thank you in advance(^_^)/

>135 Yamanekotei: Done.

Do you know which of the rest of his works belong together? I.e. the Japanese titles and their corresponding English ones?

Thank you PolymathicMonkey!

I will make a list of his works. Please give me some time.

Of course. I, or whoever happens to be around at the time you post, will be happy to do the rest of them whenever you get 'round to it. :)

Not strictly combining, but the result of combining...
I was combining the names/pseudonyms Stephen Southwold and Neil ("one L") Bell and I found that Neill ("two Ls") Bell (not the same guy) was in the mix. (I might have mistakenly put it there myself, but I don't think so.) Anyway, I adjusted the CK after I straightened out titles/authors (NeiL's had somehow become attached to NeiLL's), but the picture of Southwold/NeiL is still attached to NeiLL, and I can't figure out how to flag it or move it. Anyone's fingers more magicker than mine? Thanks.

ETA links

http://www.librarything.com/author/bellneill (has wrong pic)

http://www.librarything.com/author/bellneil (needs that photo)

jarandel, omargosh, thanks very much. I followed the latter's instructions & now hope my editing on one listing applies to other listings, mostly because making the changes took a huge lot of time: is there a way either to power edit secondary authors' list or to expand the editing box? After each change I was returned once again to the top of a very long list.

Does anyone fancy teasing out

http://www.librarything.com/work/548137/editions ?

At least the omnibus edition isn't on editions list, but books comprising various parts of it are jumbled together as are different series's, whatever they may be.

>138 .Monkey.: PolymathicMonkey

Think I'm done. Some of them had cover pictures added or book reviewd already. Can you transfered them also? I don't want them to be erased.

So here is the list. It may not be a complete one, though, for I have not read all of his work. Each original version is followed by corresponding translated one.

#1
まるいちきゅうのまるいちにち
http://www.librarything.com/work/5813176
All in a Day
http://www.librarything.com/work/440041

#2
おおきなもののすきなおうさま
http://www.librarything.com/work/10499666
The King's Flower
http://www.librarything.com/work/1201678

#3
おめんのえほん
http://www.librarything.com/work/10896653
Anno's Masks
http://www.librarything.com/work/4682092

#4
ふしぎなさーかす
http://www.librarything.com/work/10390136
Dr. Anno's Magical Midnight Circus
http://www.librarything.com/work/1618048

#5
はじめてであう すうがくの絵本 (3)
http://www.librarything.com/work/13067445
Anno/s Math Games III
http://www.librarything.com/work/32851

#6
天動説の絵本―てんがうごいていたころのはなし
http://www.librarything.com/work/10499669
Anno's Medieval World
http://www.librarything.com/work/232533

#7
もりのえほん
http://www.librarything.com/work/2165376
Anno's Animals
http://www.librarything.com/work/677044

#8 The original ver. is not listed, but found German Version instead.
Anno's Sundial
http://www.librarything.com/work/1999034
Anno's Sonnenuhren. Die Zeit erleben
http://www.librarything.com/work/14700053

#9 This book has three different entries as follows.
旅の絵本II
http://www.librarything.com/work/11178489
旅の絵本2
http://www.librarything.com/work/5032157
Anno's Italy
http://www.librarything.com/work/705240

I happened across this peculiar author name and have no idea how to correct it:

Cleanth; Warren Brooks, Robert Penn
http://www.librarything.com/author/brookscleanthwarrenr

This should be Cleanth Brooks and Robert Penn Warren.

I'm sure one of you with the fix-it knack will know what to do.

(Forgive me, please, if I've posted this in the wrong place.)

#142 by @Meredy>
There's nothing to be done with that page (well, I've changed how the author name appears by setting the Canonical Name, but there's no way to separate the two authors). People have cataloged their books with variations of both author names in the Author field, and those variations are combined together. Nobody else can change how individuals have cataloged their books, so we can't change the fact that the page exists.

If you have a book that links to that page, that will be because you have entered both names into the Author field. You can fix it by going to the Edit Book page for your book, and changing the Author field so it contains one of the names, and put the other name in the Other Authors field.

>141 Yamanekotei:

3 done

5 done
6 done
7 done - also combined author
8 done
9 done

Can't spend more time on this now.

>141 Yamanekotei: And I finished the couple MJ didn't get to. :)

>140 bluepiano: I think I've cleaned all works up. I also put them in a series. Please correct any errors if you see them!

>144 MarthaJeanne:
>145 .Monkey.:

Thank you very much. You guys are great! :-)

Oh gee, I knew that I hadn't completed... There is another works to combine which I overlooked yesterday. Sorry that I made you work twice.

ふしぎなえ (日本傑作絵本シリーズ)
http://www.librarything.com/work/10390135
Topsy-Turvies: Pictures to Stretch the Imagination
http://www.librarything.com/work/3245530

But! an image in latter work
(http://www.librarything.com/work/3245530/covers/107128528)
does not belong to either of them above. It should be at:
Upside Downers: More Pictures to Stretch the Imagination
https://www.librarything.com/work/3245527

I'm getting confused. (´･_･`)

>148 Yamanekotei: No problem, that's what we're here for :) Topsy-Turvies is done.
The cover might sort itself out in a day or two, if it hasn't then we can flag it as being inapplicable to that work. We can't actually move covers around, though, only the system itself can do that.

>149 .Monkey.:

great thanks again!

> 139: "Neill Bell" now has the image flagged, and "Neil Bell" has the image added. I think that's all we can do. Better?

>151 jasbro:: Thanks so much jasbro! I've flagged images before, so I'm not sure why I couldn't find where to do this one. But it was pretty late so I wasn't at my best...

#152 by @Crypto-Willobie>: And I'm not sure just what flagging accomplishes, except to note that the image maybe shouldn't be there (for X reason). Also adding it to the correct page seems more self-evidently helpful. But it's still noted where it appears but we think it doesn't belong, and perhaps the image will get removed at a future date. Or maybe another Combiner can help us both? (I actually learned something from the process -- I'd never successfully "grabbed" an Author image from the internet before!)

#153 by @jasbro>
Flagging an author or venue image creates a vote on it, and with enough votes it will be removed.

(Edited to finish my senten

#154 by @r.orrison> : So voting on flagged items (covers, Author pictures, spam Works, etc.) does help with more than information in the long run? Thanks for that confirmation!

>155 jasbro: Covers, no (well, it may remove them from showing as the main work image, but it doesn't remove them from anything else, they're still there in the list. Maybe someday it'll actually do something. We can hope). Spam and not-applicable venue/author photos, yes.

Someone here will know far better than I what to do about James Frazer:

http://www.librarything.com/author/frazerjames

I've not touched the page because I'm not absolutely certain of how many authors there are, though I'd be amazed if Golden Bough James Frazer wrote anything that could possibly have been included in the 'also by' listing. I'm guessing that the Britannia work is Golden Bough presented as Volume II in a series of books. The 'Frazer James' by James Frazer seems a biography but I've found nothing to hint that Frazer wrote an autobiography.

>157 bluepiano: My bet on the "Frazer James" is that it's an author photo from a member particularly egregious for listing them as items. He's gone private since and while that may have cut down on the comments on his profile, it hasn't removed the items from general view.

Most people seem to use "Author photo" as a canonical author so they go there : http://www.librarything.com/author/authorphoto

>157 bluepiano: Volume 58 of the Britannica Great Books of the Western World contains selections from the Golden Bough, together with works by Max Weber, Johan Huizinga and Claude Lévi-Strauss.
I think the Dracula Case Studies could very well contain passages from the Golden Bough, but I cannot be certain.
I divided therefore James Frazer in (1), the author of the Goldebn Bough and the Britannica book, and (unknown), the contributor to the Dracula Case Studies. I aliased (1) to James George Frazer.

Hi,
while adding work-to-work relationships for my edition of Dickens' works I encountered these:

http://www.librarything.com/work/14211417
http://www.librarything.com/work/14211418

They're DVD's, so I tried to change the relationship to reflect that, but somehow the system wouldn't let me.

I'd be glad if someone could fix this! Thanks in advance!

I'm not sure what you were trying to do, but I just added it as the canonical title.

You need to make a bug report.
It looks like you could delete the existing relationship and then create a new one as an adaptation, but it does't delete.

Whoops, sorry, I just noticed that I wasn't very clear with my post!

The DVD's above have a set relationship as "Is contained in" "Bleak House" by Dickens. This should rather be "adaption of" or "inspired by" (I don't know these DVD's, so I don't know which).
I tried to change it, but couldn't.
Hope that's clearer :)

Ahh, MarthaJeanne, you were quicker than me! Yes, I tried to delete and set the new relationship, but it didn't work.

>160 leselotte: to >164 leselotte: For some reason editing relationships sometime doesn't work from one end, but does from the other, removed them from the Bleak House work page before re-adding as adaptations.

Thanks, Jarandel!

Hi,

I have separated out my two copies of Alice in Wonderland, vhs movies.

https://www.librarything.com/work/14822435/editions/99962174

I think they should go here:

https://www.librarything.com/work/6707505

Will someone please combine them for me? And if I've written this incorrectly, or in the wrong place, please just let me know. Thank you!

>167 Merryann: done.

The easy way to do this was that the computer had already figured it out and suggested it on the editions page. (Those suggestions can be really bad, too, but if the right one is there, it's really easy.)

Otherwise I would have copied the main author into the other author section of your work and done it on the author page, then taken the extra other author back out.

Al-Anons Twelve Steps & Twelve Traditions by Al-Anon Family Group (Al-Anon Family Group Headquarters, Inc. (1981), Hardcover, 142 pages)
Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions by Alcoholics Anonymous (Alcoholics Anonymous World Serv Inc (1965), Hardcover)

Could you please separate these two books. They are not the same. The first is aimed to the family and friends of the alcoholic and the next book is for the alcoholic. The concept is the same, however, the content is different.

>169 readingrebecca: working on it ...

Ok, I think it should be squared away now. I've separated out the Al-Anon book into a separate work here and added a disambiguation message on that work, as well as on the Al-Anon author page, to hopefully avoid further combinations like this.

https://www.librarything.com/work/13959521
Just added my copy of Lineup by Liad Shoham and its Author comes up as Sara Kitai Liad Shoham (all one name).
In fact the author is Shoham, Liad & the translator is Kitai, Sara
Can anyone separate them out and fix this? Or is this the same sort of problem as @#142&143?

The work is fine. The problem is the way you have entered the book. You need to correct the main author and put the translator into other authors.

Yes, it's the same problem as above - ie only the person with the bad record can fix it, and that is you in this case.

I will ask Amazon to correct their record, then at least this won't happen to the next person to use Amazon to enter this book.

#172 Thanks. Have altered book record and entered Kitai as translator.

Hello. Here is my Back to the Future movie:

https://www.librarything.com/work/14842270/summary/99574207

that I think should go here:

https://www.librarything.com/work/713639

My editions page has a suggested place for the movie, but I don't think it's as good a location as the one I've noted above. I don't yet know how to combine with something that isn't a suggestion.

If I was to give this a day or so after separating it from the wrong place, would the system generate more suggestions? I'm trying that with a couple of other movies, to see if it does before asking you to please combine them for me.

Thank you!
Mary Ann

Also, here is Bedknobs and Broomsticks, the movie:

https://www.librarything.com/work/14786377/book/99968920

and I noted on the canonical title that it is the {film}. There are 31 members with copies of it, and it looks to me as if two of them might be the book because they have an author of Mary Norton. I did not separate them out, because they are not mine and I'm unsure about meddling with other people's items. Should I do anything other than mention it here?

Thank you. :)

Here is the last one I will ask you about for tonight at least. It's Beethoven Lives Upstairs:

https://www.librarything.com/work/321991/editions/99603657

Mine is the movie. 288 members have it listed. I am totally confused by it. Some look like books, some look like movies, some like audio books. Many I'm just not sure. I don't know whether to separate mine out, or put {film} in the canonical title, or just do nothing. So, I'm asking here. Thank you!

Mary Ann

looking at the Isbn numbers of the items its seems the ones attributed to Mary Norton are film versions.

Actually I added a "Bedknobs and broomsticks DVD" from mary nortons page to the selection.

oh definitely some work needed on Beethoven Lives Upstairs Classical kids do video and audio versions. there are paperback versions and assorted I know not whats,

#174 by @Merryann>
I've done Back to the Future, from Robert Zemeckis' combine/separate page. I don't have time this morning to look into the others.

I believe Beethoven started as an audio play then Classical kids publish this

Video in versions produced by David Devine, screenwriter Heather Conkie

books were last and seem to have illustrations by Scott Cameron.

I gather teachers notes and question sheet are also floating round waiting to muddy the water

Thank you, SimonW11 and r.orrison. :)

If anyone wants some bigger separating projects, I stumbled onto these two works yesterday and I don't have the time for them. Thanks!
https://www.librarything.com/work/11601604/editions
https://www.librarything.com/work/13101243/editions

Having a look. Perhaps when separating it helps to put the editions in a series, like Steck-Vaughn Pair-It Extreme, so you don't lose the 0-copies, and we don't mess with eachother :)

So, the Wordsworth edition of Faust is "Faust: A tragedy in two parts; with the unpublished scenarios for the Walpurgisnacht and the Urfaust" and it has the ISBN 1840221151, however, there are at least two editions with that ISBN floating around that claim to be "Faust - The First Part of the Tragedy with the unpublished..." One has a review that also claims it is the first part only. What gives? Did they actually publish it with only part one, with the same ISBN, and then later added part two also? That makes no sense. Should they not be combined with the whole versions, even though it seems unlikely they're not whole?

The solution to this is probably too obvious for me to see:

http://www.librarything.com/work/249216/book/97321022

Renee is the pseudonymous author; Marguerite Sechehaye wrote the afterword. And that's how I've entered it on my own listing of the book, so adding another author--which so far as I can tell I can do only from my own listing--won't help me get an author page for the author herself. Nor is 'Renee' showing up here:

http://www.librarything.com/author/renee

As always, ta.

The author as she appeared on the work page was Renée. LibraryThing doesn't always handle non-ascii letters consistently: that name linked to /author/rene (with the accented e just dropped). I've combined that page with /author/renee so the work now appears on the correct page.

There are quite a few different authors listed on that page, so the work should be assigned to the correct one (using Author Division on the right), and the Common Knowledge that appears at http://www.librarything.com/author/renee/issues should be moved to the correct split page.

>185 bluepiano: In the "other authors" section I added Renee as a main author of all editions.

> 186, 187, thanks. I'll try to make sure I understand what you did later, but for now I've solved one problem and in doing so created another:

http://www.librarything.com/author/harsentdavid-1

I've got the works of David Pascoe separated into those of (1) & (2), a poet with several pseudonyms, one of them David Pascoe. But the latter's real name (David Harsent) is showing on the former's author page and I can't find a way to remove it. How do I go about doing so?

David Pascoe had been combined into David Harsent. I've separated them. If you think that David Pascoe-2's real name is David Harsent you can:
go to the David Pascoe disambiguation page,
Click on Edit the division
Alias division to other authors
Follow the directions there

I suspect that on the David Harsent page the division should be set back to single author, but I don't know enough about him to be able to check the list of books listed under 'unknown'. If there are really several authors named David Harsent, the CK needs to be moved to the proper division.

Pascoe (2) is definitely David Harsent. I'd returned to (1)'s page to find it corrected but noticed that Fox on the Run by (2), listed on its own and altogether separately as Pascoe, needed to be sent to Harsent page. I did this, and the result was that (1) is once again showing as Pascoe: Harsent

http://www.librarything.com/author/harsentdavid-1

which is exactly what happened the first time. I don't understand: It's as if the works for Pascoe (1) are secretly riding piggy-back on Pascoe (2)'s Fox on the Run.

(Yes, I suspect the poetry of 'unknown' at least is all Harsent (2)--if I ever get above kink sorted, I'll do some more googling on him.}

DO NOT COMBINE! Alias.

Yes, if you combine, you combine both divided authors.

I suspect that bluepiano did the combination from pascoedavid-2, assuming that it would just combine pascoedavid-2 with harsentdavid. Then when it actually combined the full pascoedavid with harsentdavid (and harsentdavid "won out"), harsentdavid was also split. It's really obnoxious that the interface has author combining available from each of a split name's divisions. It strongly implies it does something that in fact it does not do. Time for an RSI.

I went ahead and unsplit harsentdavid. The only work I couldn't tie to the guy was the contributor to Young Winter's Tales 1 (and its sole owner has comments turned off )-:). Still, even if it's not the same guy, that page is no worse off than it was two days ago, and it's better than that mysterious one-way-split-but-only-assignments-on-division-2 thing the page had going on.

ETA: I also looked for other David Harsents in VIAF before unsplitting but didn't find references to other homonymous people there.

>171 greydoll: Amazon has accepted the correction.

for those of you at a very lose end https://www.librarything.com/work/13785393

https://www.librarything.com/profile/don.rokusek/memes/workdups
https://www.librarything.com/profile/CrosbyElementary/memes/workdups
https://www.librarything.com/profile/NewportElementary/memes/workdups

The work duplicates of the three members with that work show several similar cases.

Plenty there for lots of loose ends.

Yes, that series is a regular combiner's nightmare

Someone has given "Benedict, Saint" has author umpteen times on St Benedict's rule:

http://www.librarything.com/work/91231

Any reason not to remove all but one?

probably an artifact after combining. Feel free to remove the doubles.

>194 SimonW11: Exploded it and began sorting the mess, still some regrouping to do between copies that have their genuine author, those that list "steck-vaughn" and those that have a blank.

Others in the same vein
https://www.librarything.com/work/8336727/editions
https://www.librarything.com/work/10003171/editions
https://www.librarything.com/work/13895155/editions
(Seem sorted now)

omargosh, that's exactly what I'd assumed I was doing. I'd thought that sort of thing was what 'aliassing' referred to. Obviously it isn't--so what then *is* aliassing, and how/when is it done? Cheers.

(And I can't begin to guess what VIAF is . . . )

>200 bluepiano: Read >189 MarthaJeanne:. I gave you the directions there.

From the wiki:

Aliasing is a method for aggregating groups of works held under differing author names which refer to the same person. For example, if an author has works listed under both Jane Smith (2) and Jane Quincy Smith, but you can't combine these names since the former is used by multiple people, you can use aliasing to "connect" the pages of Jane Smith (2) and Jane Quincy Smith. All her works will then appear on the aliased-to page. (It may be tempting to use the "Other Authors" features to change the JS works to JQS, but there are several reasons not to.)

This feature can be found on an author's split author page by clicking on "edit the division" in the right hand column, and choosing "Alias divisions to other authors" instead of the default "Assign works to authors".

You will see a field for each identified author: "Joe Bloggs (1)", "Joe Bloggs (2)" etc. For convenience the top work for each of those authors is also stated. Fill in the field with the author name-string found in the address of the aliased-to page.

This thread is CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #62 -- http://www.librarything.com/topic/171806 . Thank you!