Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #60

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1jasbro
Nov 18, 2013, 10:25 am

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.

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-- Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that will help.
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“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
http://www.librarything.com/work/AAAAAAAA
http://www.librarything.com/work/BBBBBBBB
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ


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-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602 .
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .
-- For the related wiki page, please see: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining .
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2jasbro
Edited: Nov 18, 2013, 10:27 am

> From Thread 59, post 223, by @AbigailAdams26:

I've done something wrong, combining an author. I was trying to combine Clare H. Abrahall (which I had already combined with C.H. Abrahall) with C.M Drury, as they are the same author, but discovered that there are two C.M. Drury's, who had already been incorrectly combined. The C.M. Drury I'm looking for is Clare Constance Maria Drury, but the one I found was Clifford Merrill Drury. Or rather, I found an author listing for Clifford Merrill Drury that contained many books from Clare ... Drury, all of which is now combined with Clare H. Abrahall. Help!:

http://www.librarything.com/author/drurycliffordmerrill

3MarthaJeanne
Edited: Nov 18, 2013, 10:31 am

I have separated out

http://www.librarything.com/author/drurycm&norefer=1

as well as the Abrahall authors.

I would not combine the CM Drury, as that is likely to cause problems again later, even if the only book there is currently by the author you want. The best solution is for you to change your author. I can see that you might not want to change it to Clare H Abrahall, but why not change it to Clare Constance Maria Drury? If that is the same person, it can safely be combined.

Are there still books by your author in the Clifford Merrill Drury page?

4AbigailAdams26
Nov 18, 2013, 12:06 pm

Hi Martha Jeanne: thanks for separating out the two C.M. Drurys, as well as the Clare H. Abrahall. As far as I can tell, none of the books listed under Clifford Merrill Drury are from 'my' C.M. Drury. As for your suggestions, I'm not sure I understand? I'm currently reading a book with the author listed as "Clare H. Abrahall," but also have one on my shelf by "C.M. Drury." These are both published names of Clare Constance Maria Drury, according to the Sims/Clare encyclopedia of girls school stories (they give biographical info on every author they can). I thought it made sense to combine the two, but maybe not? Why would I change either listing to Clare Constance Maria Drury? Although that is her full name (unmarried - her married named was Clare Hoskyns-Abrahall), she did not publish under it. Many thanks for further explanation, and for all your help. Although I'm OK with basic combining, I find some of the more complex stuff a little challenging. :)

5jjwilson61
Nov 18, 2013, 12:12 pm

Isn't it a matter of splitting the CM Drury page and aliasing the splits?

6MarthaJeanne
Edited: Nov 18, 2013, 12:32 pm

There is only one book on that page. Putting the full name on that book would make the work of splitting and aliasing unnecessary.

Combining does make sense if the names clearly belong to the same individual. However C. M. Drury should not be combined with any other name.

In theory, it should be split and the two splits aliased to Clifford... and Clare... However, there are no books on that page by Clifford, and no author page for Clare ... Drury. (Others may feel differently, but I would prefer to alias to a page that says Drury, and then combine that one with the page with the married name.)

The other weird thing here is the work by CM Drury.
http://www.librarything.com/work/14404918/book/103257361
Someone has changed the author name to C. M. (Special Representative) Drury. I don't know where that came from, or what it means.

7Hibou8
Nov 21, 2013, 11:33 am

8MarthaJeanne
Nov 21, 2013, 11:36 am

7> Done.

9antonomasia
Nov 24, 2013, 4:56 am

This: http://www.librarything.com/work/6238909
is an alternative title for this: http://www.librarything.com/work/1244215
not a separate work.

10.Monkey.
Nov 24, 2013, 5:17 am

11prosfilaes
Nov 26, 2013, 4:27 am

The Further Adventures of Sherlock Holmes http://www.librarything.com/work/218855 is a combination of what looks like for different works:
: an anthology of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's writings (including all of the Last Bow, I believe),
:: e.g. The Further Adventures of Sherlock Holmes / Doyle, Arthur Conan (ISBN 0895775522)
: An anthology of the writings of later authors on Sherlock Holmes
:: e.g. The Further Adventures of Sherlock Holmes: After Sir Arthur Conan Doyle / Green, Richard Lancelyn (ISBN 0140079076)
: An audio book anthology of new stories about Holmes, different collection from the last
:: e.g. The Further Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (BBC Audio) / Coules, Bert (ISBN 0563524073)
: What I believe the first collection (maybe?) but rewritten in simpler language
:: e.g. Further Adventures of Sherlock Holmes: 3100 Headwords (Oxford Progressive English Readers) / Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan (ISBN 0195853350)

12.Monkey.
Nov 26, 2013, 9:12 am

Can anyone get this 0-copy edition in with the others?
http://www.librarything.com/work/14493719/
http://www.librarything.com/work/14493733/
It only wants to combine with the other 3 story collection for some reason, which is not the same!

13r.orrison
Nov 26, 2013, 9:25 am

12: Done

14.Monkey.
Nov 26, 2013, 9:38 am

Thanks

15Jarandel
Nov 26, 2013, 9:47 am

>11 prosfilaes: Did some sorting, some items where title + author was ambiguous and with no ISBN that may really belong with the first are still in the second though.

16bluepiano
Nov 28, 2013, 8:25 am

I've just added a short story collection that is a translation of a French one; however, this English edition has four stories that aren't in the French original. Should I combine the two anyway, or leave them alone? And if the latter, should I leave an explanation in disambiguation notice? Thanks.

17JerryMmm
Nov 28, 2013, 8:37 am

Leave 'm alone, yes. A disambiguation notice is not a bad thing here either.

18MarthaJeanne
Nov 28, 2013, 8:48 am

Agreed.

19bluepiano
Nov 28, 2013, 8:51 am

Righto. Not done and done, then.

20krazy4katz
Nov 29, 2013, 11:21 pm

OK, I think I really messed this up. I was looking for the English version of the work that was made into the 2011 movie, Unknown, because the book (originally French) was just republished in English under the same name as the move. Anyway, I came across this page:
http://www.librarything.com/work/1515709/editions

I thought this was actually a korean work, so I flagged the cover as incorrect. Now I think it is an amalgam of many things and the "author" is actually the director of the movie. The more I do the worse it gets. If anyone has any suggestions…thanks!

21Collectorator
Nov 30, 2013, 5:06 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

22krazy4katz
Nov 30, 2013, 1:30 pm

Thank you, Collectorator. I am not sure what you did, but at least it "makes sense" now.

23r.orrison
Dec 2, 2013, 11:05 am

Is this https://www.librarything.com/work/70891/editions the mess it looks like, or are "Real Christianity" and "A Practical View of Christianity" the same? Should the other works on the author's page with those titles be combined in as well? Even if those belong together, there are quite a few other titles in there that look like they don't belong.

24Jarandel
Edited: Dec 2, 2013, 12:04 pm

>23 r.orrison: Edit : they seem to be the same actually, originally titled "A Practical View of the Prevailing Religious System of Professed Christians in the Higher and Middle Classes of this Country Contrasted with Real Christianity", presumably shortened not to frighten more modern readers.

Split out a paraphrased version and a few random other works.

25r.orrison
Dec 2, 2013, 1:39 pm

24 Thanks!

26jjmcgaffey
Dec 4, 2013, 2:53 am

I spent quite a while a few days ago separating out Burroughs' The Wizard of Venus from the books that had both The Wizard of Venus and Pirate Blood. And today they're back together. Is Pirate Blood actually in all the books, whether listed or not? If not, can they be separated and a disambiguation notice posted? I can't figure out how to make one.

Editions list: http://www.librarything.com/work/6142011/editions/16690540

27r.orrison
Edited: Dec 4, 2013, 3:47 am

26: I've re-done the separating and combination, and added disambiguation notices. (Disambiguation Notice is just another entry on the Common Knowledge page for the work.) I suspect that some of the Common Knowledge on http://www.librarything.com/work/6142011/commonknowledge is wrong and includes entries that should be on Pirate Blood, but I'm not at all familiar with the works so can't fix that.

28jules_l
Dec 4, 2013, 8:07 am

I own the NEL edition of Wizard of Venus, which Wikipedia suggests doesn't have Pirate Blood. I honestly don't remember, as I've read/owned other versions of the book in the past and it's been years since I read it, but I'll check it tonight. If that's the case, then I'll update the Disambiguation Notice with a bit more detail.

29jules_l
Dec 4, 2013, 6:49 pm

Update: my 1973 NEL edition does have Pirate Blood... so I'd say that there's no way to tell if there are any editions that don't include it. Whether it gets mentioned on the cover seems to be down to the individual publisher.

30r.orrison
Dec 4, 2013, 6:56 pm

If it were mine, regardless of what was on the cover, I would include both titles in the title entry of my book. If you're just going to catalog it as "Wizard of Venus" then you can't really expect anything other than for it to be combined with other works listed as "Wizard of Venus". That doesn't mean that the work "Wizard of Venus" should be combined with the work that's clearly listed as including both.

Even if you could prove that every published copy of "Wizard of Venus" included "Pirate Blood" I'd still argue for keeping the two works separate, as it would be very understandable for someone to catalog the two separately (even though they were included in the same volume).

31jules_l
Dec 4, 2013, 7:03 pm

30> Indeed. Though I can see that my own copy is now showing up as one of the "included" stories in Wizard of Venus/Pirate Blood, so I shall have to do some splitting and combining to attach it to the right work when I have sufficient time. I wouldn't venture to do that for anything other than my own copy and the others that match that ISBN though, because it's pretty clear that only the owners of the other versions of the title can know for sure.

33TheoClarke
Dec 5, 2013, 5:13 pm

Done

34barney67
Dec 8, 2013, 3:23 pm

http://www.librarything.com/work/4331168

Not sure what to do with this one. Pierre is by Herman Melville, not Sinclair Lewis.

35.Monkey.
Dec 8, 2013, 3:42 pm

huh. And the cover they've put on it is for a different book by Sinclair Lewis. I'd suggest leaving the user a comment to get clarity but given that their last addition was over a year ago, it seems likely fruitless.

37Nicole_VanK
Dec 8, 2013, 11:07 pm

I think so.

38TheoClarke
Dec 9, 2013, 4:31 am

>36 barney67: Someone has done that combination. Thank you, mysterious helper.

39barney67
Dec 9, 2013, 1:14 pm

I went ahead and did it. Hope that was okay.

40TheoClarke
Dec 9, 2013, 2:02 pm

Good for you, barney67. Keep on keeping on!

41MarthaJeanne
Dec 10, 2013, 6:42 am

I've been trying to clean up the Septuaguint a bit and have a zero edition to combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/14531390/editions
http://www.librarything.com/work/14531330

BTW, I know it's not done yet, but a lot better.

42jasbro
Dec 10, 2013, 8:17 am

> 41: Done; thank you.

43MissWatson
Dec 11, 2013, 4:27 am

I'm in a bit of a quandary. I recently added the original, complete, Italian edition of Giovagnoli's Spartaco to my library. If you look at the author page http://www.librarything.com/author/giovagnoliraffaello you can see that a number of translations already exist. But I do not really want to combine my copy, because I know that all German copies since 1973 are based on an abridged version for young adults first published by Aufbau. So what do you recommend?

44Rick_Deckard
Dec 11, 2013, 9:46 am

Hi, can someone fix the following books:

Cyberabad (http://www.librarything.com/work/6440739/book/104299176) isn't the german translation of Cyberabad Days, it's the german edition of River of Gods (http://www.librarything.com/work/49008)

Thanks

45.Monkey.
Dec 11, 2013, 10:21 am

>44 Rick_Deckard: Done, with disambigs added for any future clarity.

46JerryMmm
Dec 11, 2013, 4:14 pm

>43 MissWatson: No need to combine full texts with abridgements. You can always add a disambiguation notice on both works explaining your findings.

47MissWatson
Dec 12, 2013, 4:39 am

> Okay, I'll try that this weekend when I've got a little more time. Thanks!

49Jarandel
Dec 12, 2013, 1:57 pm

51MarthaJeanne
Dec 12, 2013, 2:20 pm

50>Second one done. WorldCat says the first one is On the Banks of Plum Creek.

52bluepiano
Dec 14, 2013, 10:01 am

Please help with Flora. Given that it has no author as such a link will go only to a page with many variations of the title, but it's the most recently added book on my profile page. I've done a bit of separating but I think it's still being listed as several different books (at least once as with Pedersen as author), one of them a children's book. Many thanks.

53MarthaJeanne
Edited: Dec 14, 2013, 10:47 am

What book do you actually have?

There is a no author work in the Thomas the Tank Engine Series. I have put in a canonical title to differentiate this one.
http://www.librarything.com/work/4959301

There is the Pederson work that is photography. Red cover.
http://www.librarything.com/work/10783120

There is another photography book by Nick Knight and Sandra Knapp.
http://www.librarything.com/work/537206

There is another work with no author, ISBN, or cover
http://www.librarything.com/work/14541463/editions

54bluepiano
Dec 15, 2013, 3:27 am

>53 MarthaJeanne:, mine is isbn 1931241090, ed. by Birnbaum & Porciello, a photography book whose publisher's CEO is that Pedersen. Not only are there main pages where two or three books w. this title are confused but my copy was showing up on a main page with one member and a main page with 5 members. And as I remember there were two members on another sharing an unidentifiable (for me) book with the title.

55MarthaJeanne
Edited: Dec 15, 2013, 4:40 am

I think we have a certain amount of bad lag here. The link from your profile goes to the Pederson work, and WorldCat and Amazon give the author as Pederson. I have now confirmed the 'other authors' (feel free to edit that). Even though the top of the page does not include your name and only claims 1 member, I can see two editions. You can enter an editor as main author, giving editor as role, and I would do that rather than leave the author space blank.

Your name and 5 members show on the Thomas & Friends work, but there are only 4 editions, and the questionable one is a translation into a Scandanavian language.

I assume that this will all look better by tomorrow. But I will try and remember to look.

56MarthaJeanne
Edited: Dec 15, 2013, 4:29 pm

Tonight your copy was on the Thomas work so I moved it to the Pederson work. Now the edition pages look reasonable.

58henkl
Dec 16, 2013, 5:07 pm

59Lyndatrue
Dec 17, 2013, 4:15 pm

The following two works are combined, and should not be. There is a Signet Double (easy to miss, there were only 8 ever published) that has both "Today We Choose Faces" and Bridge of Ashes" both by Roger Zelazny, and a separate work, "Today We Choose Faces" (touchstones deliberately avoided for those works).

Entry at ISFDB for double: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205569
Entry at ISFDB for novel (which includes the double): http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?989

Zelazny's page correctly separates them, but the reviews attached refer to the novel, and not the double.

http://www.librarything.com/work/3337230 (novel)
http://www.librarything.com/work/652130 (double)

Bridge of Ashes was also published as a second work.

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?12390
http://www.librarything.com/work/131909 (novel)

I'd prefer to hand this off to someone with experience, since the reviews for those works should stay with them, and there should be (as far as I can tell) only my own review for the double.

60.Monkey.
Dec 17, 2013, 4:25 pm

>59 Lyndatrue: I think they're all in the right spots now

61Lyndatrue
Dec 17, 2013, 4:55 pm

>60 .Monkey.: I'm confused. Now my book (the double) lists as the single, with a disambiguation notice that says it's the single. Here's the link to the book in my Library:

http://www.librarything.com/work/3337230/book/104027938

62r.orrison
Edited: Dec 17, 2013, 5:09 pm

You may need to wait a while, or hit F5 or Control-F5, to get your library to reload, but if you go to http://www.librarything.com/work/book/104027938 (your book, without the work reference) and then hit the "work-only work page" link on the right side, you'll get to http://www.librarything.com/work/652130/work/104027938 which is the correct work page.

63.Monkey.
Edited: Dec 17, 2013, 5:11 pm

Right, because I'd made sure to check and it was right! :)

64Lyndatrue
Edited: Dec 17, 2013, 5:18 pm

>62 r.orrison: I'd just barely done a face::palm a minute ago (I loaded the "Your books" page in a new tab, and realized it was a caching problem), but it leaves me with a puzzlement. It shows I've reviewed it, but the reviews say "none" at the top of the page, and "(1)" at the left side. I'm going to delete the review, wait a few, and add it back in. Hopefully that will fix it.

Thanks very much, to you and to polymathicmonkey too.

Edit: Well, that was unexpected. Now it has 65535 reviews (looks like a math error/overflow in the code). Not that important to me, since the link under the number takes me to my one review, and not to the others.

65.Monkey.
Dec 17, 2013, 5:25 pm

There's no need to delete anything, just wait until tomorrow and see what it says.

66Lyndatrue
Edited: Dec 18, 2013, 8:08 pm

I'm not even sure this is the right thread for this, but I'm so confused that I think I'd at least like advice, or a better understanding.

As preface: I really loved the stories of Kedrigern the Wizard, by the late John Morressy, and clicked idly on the series link when I was first entering the books. I was quite surprised to see a book I didn't own, and have spent a few hours doing some research.

http://www.librarything.com/series/Kedrigern+Chronicles

The first book listed, Kedrigern I exists nowhere outside of Czechoslovakia. Worldcat laughed at me, Amazon told me I gave them a bad ISBN, and it isn't listed in the ISFDB as part of the author's works. More importantly, the Chronicles mentioned in the series do not contain this book, nor any reference to it, either.

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?11828 (listing of all Kedrigern books and series).

It may have been published there, but it bothers me a bit that Worldcat isn't happy with it, i.e. found it in no libraries, although it did find it. ::face::palm:: Ignore me on that. I just realized it found it in no libraries *close* to me.

So, should it come out of the series? This is my least favorite choice (the book exists, just because it's in a language I don't read has nothing to do with it).

Is there a way to make a note that it's a collection of his work? I see several books in his Author's page that are probably Czech versions of titles that exist; pity that there isn't a quick way to link these to each other, somehow (or perhaps there is, and I just don't know how yet).

Yes, I'm really this OCD. I can't help it.

(As a quick note, the "official" title is Kedrigern 1 : Kedrigern a hlas pro Princeznu : Kedrigern a spletitá výprava, and that looks to translate to the first two works: A Voice For Princess and The Questing of Kedrigern.)

67MarthaJeanne
Edited: Dec 19, 2013, 2:19 am

Series is designed to be language specific because of issues like this. It should not be on the English series page, but rather on a Czech one if someone wants to set it up. (Two of the four people who own it use the English site. One hasn't entered anything since 2011. One has entered a book in November.)

Re WorldCat. They are always worth trying, but aren't very complete outside the English language world, and a lot of information is missing even on books they have.

It might be a good idea to enter the full title as canonical title. you can also create work to work relationships to save the research you have done.

69.Monkey.
Dec 19, 2013, 5:12 am

70JerryMmm
Dec 19, 2013, 6:23 am

re the czech work, it should be in the series on the .cz site, with a modifier to note it is an omnibus. see other series with omnibus editions for how best to do that.

71MarthaJeanne
Edited: Dec 19, 2013, 11:13 am

I'll add that it possible to edit the various language site CKs without actally going to the other sites.

An example would be http://www.librarything.com/series/The+Stainless+Steel+Rat

73Jarandel
Dec 20, 2013, 3:04 pm

74bonne1978
Dec 22, 2013, 8:02 am

Please combine:
www.librarything.com/work/14565464
www.librarything.com/work/14565468

75bonne1978
Dec 22, 2013, 8:05 am

Please combine:
www.librarything.com/work/14565482
www.librarything.com/work/14565491

76MarthaJeanne
Dec 22, 2013, 8:19 am

74 and 75 are 0 editions that don't work on the editions page.

77henkl
Dec 22, 2013, 8:31 am

>74 bonne1978: - 75 Done.

78Ameise1
Dec 24, 2013, 4:43 pm

Please combine

http://www.librarything.de/work/13380242 (the original in Italian) with
http://www.librarything.de/work/14570388 (the German version)

Thanks a lot and Merry Christmas :-D

79Jarandel
Dec 24, 2013, 5:55 pm

80bonne1978
Dec 26, 2013, 10:55 pm

Please combine
www.librarything.com/work/13394947
www.librarything.com/work/7720855

81Felagund
Dec 27, 2013, 1:18 am

83Nicole_VanK
Dec 29, 2013, 5:35 am

> 82: Done.

84jefbra
Dec 31, 2013, 12:13 am

Hi

Please combine

http://www.librarything.com/author/russellosborne
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/104704822

Thanks Jeff

P. S. Does it help LT if our covers are Amazon free?

85Nicole_VanK
Dec 31, 2013, 12:20 am

> 84: Done.

Yes it helps, because Amazon can change any cover whenever they wish.

86jefbra
Dec 31, 2013, 12:31 am

BarkingMatt

try combining these. (84) didn't work

http://www.librarything.com/work/626335
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/104704822

Thanks Jeff

87Nicole_VanK
Edited: Dec 31, 2013, 12:44 am

Ah, sorry. I thought you wanted the author pages of Osborne Russell and Osborne Russell (edited by Aubrey L. Haines) combined.

Done now. And you're welcome.

88bonne1978
Jan 1, 2014, 7:25 am

Please combine

www.librarything.com/work/11458839
www.librarything.com/work/11254926

89JerryMmm
Jan 1, 2014, 7:47 am

The author of one of these is entered as first last, and the other as last first. So I went to the first last autor, searched for authors to combine, combined the 2, then from the author page it's easy to combine.

so: >88 bonne1978: done

90slickdpdx
Jan 3, 2014, 5:47 pm

Please combine:

Fouche by Zweig
http://www.librarything.com/work/14580866
with
Fouche by Zweig
http://www.librarything.com/work/1003515

Thanks!

91MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jan 3, 2014, 5:54 pm

90>Done. I found another one as well.

92slickdpdx
Jan 3, 2014, 6:03 pm

Awesome!

93Lyndatrue
Jan 3, 2014, 10:24 pm

I just added a book that is by Oliver Wendell Holmes (Sr), and don't know how to add this author into the list of books by Holmes Sr. I thought about editing the author name, to add Sr., but I prefer not to do that.

Is there some magic I should (or could) enter on the CK pages that would fix this? It's a beautiful book, by the way. I really need to photograph the cover.

94Nicole_VanK
Jan 3, 2014, 11:27 pm

Moved it to "Oliver Wendell Holmes (1)" which, by the way, is aliased into "Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.". So that should do the trick. For future reference: you can't fix this through CK - it's done from the author page ("edit the division" in the right hand column).

95Lyndatrue
Jan 4, 2014, 12:30 am

> 94 Thank you, BarkingMatt, both for fixing it, and explaining how to do it for the next time.

96StanSmith108
Jan 5, 2014, 5:27 pm

I recently combined two versions of the same work, one was spelled incorrectly. Unfortunately they have combined under the incorrect spelling. The work is http://www.librarything.com/work/8252410
The correct spelling is Solzhenitsyn, please fix.

97fdholt
Jan 5, 2014, 5:39 pm

#96 done

98bonne1978
Jan 6, 2014, 3:27 am

Please combine
www.librarything.com/work/14607316
www.librarything.com/work/14607310

99MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jan 6, 2014, 3:51 am

98> That is probably a valid combination of 0 copy edition with the closest larger work. Whether that work is a correct combination is beyond me. WorldCat does not give information on the original title of the Swedish book.

The author page is a mess. http://www.librarything.com/author/lambertdavid-1
This author has written lots and lots of books that are entered with the title Dinosaurs. It is clear from the covers that the current combinations are not right. I have tried to separate the craft book from the DK one.

100europhile
Jan 6, 2014, 4:51 am

#98 done

101henkl
Jan 6, 2014, 7:55 am

#99 by @MarthaJeanne> The National Library of Sweden has as original title "Collins guide to dinosaurs"; so the combination seems to be correct.

102jasbro
Edited: Jan 6, 2014, 1:32 pm

Frank Miller's 7-volume "Sin City" graphic novel Series, http://www.librarything.com/series/Sin+City , appears to need assistance, but I'm unfamiliar with the Series and unsure where or how to begin.

A LibraryThing site Search of "Frank Miller Sin City" discloses 98 Work records that appear to be part of, or related to, the Series. It's unlikely the Series should be expanded to include all 98; rather, multiple records for the same Work should be combined, as appropriate. There's also wide variation in the (apparent) volume numbers shown on catalog records for what look to be the same Work -- e.g., Sin City: Hell and Back.

Are there LT Combiners familiar with the Series who can help, or who otherwise have resources to start parsing this puzzler? Thank you!

103Lyndatrue
Jan 6, 2014, 8:21 pm

Well, this is a new one for me. I was adding an event for a local book store, and was surprised not to see the book listed on the author page. It turns out that whoever first added the book put both authors on the author line. Oops.

Book is here: http://www.librarything.com/work/12928810

The official title is also On the Trail of the Ice Age Floods: The Northern Reaches and it might be nice if that title was repaired to reflect that. I have no idea how to fix this, nor how to do anything at all with a book I don't own. I'd love to see it fixed, and to be told how to do it (so that I'll be able to do it myself for the next time).

Thanks in advance.

104jjwilson61
Jan 6, 2014, 9:23 pm

Just scroll down on that page a bit to the other authors section and click on Add.

105bluepiano
Jan 7, 2014, 8:24 am

http://www.librarything.com/work/14209091/editions

This is three novellas, each of which is already catalogued here, boxed together. They're paperbacks in a very flimsy box--there's nothing deluxe or distinctive about Three Novels--in fact, I'll probably shelve them sans box. Should I enter each work separately, or the lot as Three Novels? and if the former, would anyone like to separate/combine this work? (The novellas are

http://www.librarything.com/work/1616143

http://www.librarything.com/work/9318314

http://www.librarything.com/work/6669455

Thanks.)

106MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jan 7, 2014, 10:36 am

How you enter it is your business. But please don't use the ISBN for the set if you enter them separately.

I have set up the work to work relationships. I do not see any combining/separating that needs doing.

107jasbro
Edited: Jan 7, 2014, 7:21 pm

> 105, bluepiano: To concur with MarthaJeanne, I would commend to you records for the individual books rather than the set, if that's the way you would use them in your library.

If you were to examine our library, you might notice that I've often gone so far as to catalog individual volumes of a multi-volume Work, where (for example) I want our "Your books" to show me which volume of the Library of Southern Literature includes Joel Chandler Harris as an Author/Contributor, rather than as an Editor. (BTW, it's Volume V.) On the other hand, other LT members choose to enter complete sets as Works in themselves (see the Library of Southern Literature touchstone), or even a group of books by a single Author as a kind of "set" with a single entry (for example, see http://www.librarything.com/work/4505822 ). Still other LT members catalog as individual Works in an athologized collection, which presumably lets them account for individual pieces rather than entire anthologies as discrete Works (e.g., http://www.librarything.com/work/8242337 ). I might be inclined to do the same, if I were seriously keeping track of which stories, essays, poems or other pieces in an anthology I had actually read, and which I "merely" look forward to.

That said, I would also second MarthaJeanne's request to NOT use the set's ISBN for individual volumes, if for no other reason than it complicates inter-record relationships and risks inappropriate combining suggestions. Thanks for your question; do our answers help?

108bluepiano
Jan 8, 2014, 10:14 am

Yes, thank you, very much so. It was helpful of you to expand a bit--always glad to learn something new about the site. And what you say explains why the Three Novels needn't be combined.

Since I've learned that Norton Critical editions aren't to be combined and, as I remember, Folio Society ones aren't either, I've been wondering about a couple of things:

1) At what point does a new edition become a separate work? http://www.librarything.com/work/15467 comes to mind: the expanded & revised edition of Apocalypse Culture I (which is not the same as Apocalypse Culture II) has 18 essays not in the first edition, which in turn has 12 essays not included in the second. Seems to me that makes it a separate work, though it's not yet listed separately.

2) Does highly distinctive design, format, illustration ever merit a book's being listed as a separate work? An example would be http://www.librarything.com/search.php (which is in fact listed separately by a couple of members). It's Baum's standard story, but Rawle's profuse & idiosyncratic illustrations make it feel like another story altogether. Another example: I've an edition of Dorian Gray with a format & design modelled on magazines of the 1970's & illustrated w. magazine adverts of that decade. It would be nice to list these copies apart from others & perhaps bring them to others' attention but I don't know whether that's on.

Sorry for wordiness--grateful for advice.

109MarthaJeanne
Jan 8, 2014, 11:24 am

1) Could be separated. A quick look indicates that well over 300 of the 375 copies belong to the same isbn, and there are a few without isbn. With this kind of numbers someone who knows about the book might decide to do it. It's always a judgment call. You need to balance the amount of difference against the desire to make useful connections against the hassle of ending up with a lot of questionable copies. In the end it also comes down to someone noticing and caring enough to do it.

2)Your link doesn't do what you want it to. But again, you have to take it case by case. One the one hand:

Editions. The Dover and Signet editions of Alice in Wonderland are the same work. Ditto normal and "deluxe illustrated editions."

On the other hand:

Edition or language differences with a significant social difference. This concept is up for debate, but I have two examples:

(1) The Kama Sutra is not the same as the The Pop-Up Kama Sutra (a remarkable assemblage of paper and thread). In theory the same text, the content is really quite different, with attending social differences.

(Both from an author combine/separate page. The sedond example is the dead language exception.)

Also, reviews refering to the specific editions might be a more effective way of calling attention to these editions than separating. And if we ever get the promised edition level...

110jjwilson61
Jan 8, 2014, 11:33 am

108> 2) Does highly distinctive design, format, illustration ever merit a book's being listed as a separate work? An example would be http://www.librarything.com/search.php (which is in fact listed separately by a couple of members). It's Baum's standard story, but Rawle's profuse & idiosyncratic illustrations make it feel like another story altogether.

I'll assume that you're talking about the Wizard of Oz. Think of it this way. On the Members With Your Books list on the Profile page, do you think that someone shouldn't count as sharing books with you if you only had the standard edition of WoO and the other person had the deluxe edition you describe?

111.Monkey.
Jan 8, 2014, 11:38 am

Since we're talking about what constitutes different editions, and illustration: what about a fully illustrated edition of a novel? E.g. my edition of The Hobbit which I suppose could be called a "tie in" with the old animated movie, and consists of large glossy pages covered in those full-color illustrations? I agree with @bluepiano that this is an entirely different experience than simply reading a novel.

112jjwilson61
Jan 8, 2014, 1:44 pm

But if that's the only version of the Hobbit are you willing to tell someone that you haven't read the same work as they had because they read the paperback?

113bluepiano
Edited: Jan 8, 2014, 2:18 pm

jjwilson, good point: subjectively, Rawle's illustrations *do* make it a different book but objectively you're right, of course. Marthajeanne, again it's nice to have an explanatory post. I'll look at Apocalypse Culture again. Calling these special editions to a reader's attention in a review is something that hadn't occurred to me, and your suggestion led me to poke around a bit . . . which led to discovering a long list of 'other authors' on work page, to which I duly added illustrator & designers. I might be able to do something with recommendations as well.

Given what you two say,

http://www.librarything.com/work/9010263 should be combined with

http://www.librarything.com/work/20410/book/97634905

I've still not sussed how to combine a work listed like this under different authors myself. Cheers again.

114.Monkey.
Edited: Jan 8, 2014, 5:58 pm

>112 jjwilson61: I would say that they had read The Hobbit while I had read The Illustrated Hobbit. A little illustration here and there is one thing, but a fully illustrated volume is, indeed, an entirely different experience. I'm not going to go separating anything out because I don't think some, like you, obviously, agree with that, but I most certainly do, and do not think a fully illustrated volume belongs with a plain text volume.

The images would be a large part of the experience. Using the "cocktail party rule," for instance, I would most certainly mention the various illustrations, those I favored, didn't care as much for, how they impacted the text, etc. Someone reading just the text wouldn't have anything to say to that.

115juniperSun
Jan 9, 2014, 11:18 pm

Please straighten this out. I should probably never try to fix books because it gets worse when I do. There are 5 separate books which are the same thing. No ISBN or LC. No author--I feel author should be the publisher. The title is simply Traditional Teachings. Nowhere in the book are any of the bracketed options listed, although it is likely different people added that to clarify what their book is.
I combined 1 & 5, changing the author of 5 which was quite confused. In doing so I seem to have lost the cover someone else uploaded for 5. This book is http://www.librarything.com/work/12271431 but the copy in my library is http://www.librarything.com/work/12271431/book/105120601 (what’s with the extra?)
Somehow after all that, I ended up with a 2nd copy of the book with a new number: http://www.librarything.com/work/12271431/book/105121133. I'll delete it after the rest of this is sorted out.
I also see that the first touchstone to my message is something completely different & I don't know where it's coming from.

1.Traditional Teachings of the Six Nations
North American Travelling College
http://www.librarything.com/work/14620260/workdetails/105120601
2. Traditional Teachings
no author, no public books
http://www.librarything.com/work/12658955
3. Traditional Teachings Great Law of the Six Nations
no author
http://www.librarything.com/work/8882481
4. Traditional Teachings (6 Nations/Iroquois)
Mike Mitchell
http://www.librarything.com/work/10612372
5. Traditional Teachings Great Law of the Six Nations
Barbara ( Mike (Kanentakeron) ; Thompson Mitchell
http://www.librarything.com/work/2951197
I combined 1 & 5, changing the author of 5 which was quite confused. In doing so I seem to have lost the cover someone else uploaded. This book is http://www.librarything.com/work/12271431 but the copy in my library is http://www.librarything.com/work/12271431/book/105120601 (what’s with the extra?)
Somehow after all that, I ended up with a 2nd copy of the book with a new number: http://www.librarything.com/work/12271431/book/105121133

116MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jan 10, 2014, 3:27 am

115>OK, I think I've got them all.

The covers often need time to catch up.

There is a difference between a work and your book. when you enter a book, your copy, your book gets a book number, which should always stay the same for that copy. However, the book is also assigned to a work. Now it could be a new work if LT can't match it to an existing work. Or it could be a work with several other copies.

The current URL for this work is http://www.librarything.com/work/12271431. So for your copies nothing has changed. But for other copies the work number has changed. But the book number would still be the same. Here we are really only concerned with the work number. If you have been doing combining and separating books you have entered, always make sure to use new URLs afterwards, as you can get some really weird pages if you mix up a work number with a book number that belongs to a different work.

Note: I was a bit leary of 2) as combining on just the title. I decided to do it because although WorldCat came up with several alternatives when I searched on 'traditional teachings', this was the one book that had that as the main title. I didn't see others that it would make sense to shorten this way. Also the lack of an authour in this case seemed to make the case stronger. If the private owner doesn't agree it can be changed.

117juniperSun
Jan 10, 2014, 11:35 am

116>Thank you so much. Now I have a new problem.
Disambiguation of author Tom Porter
I just added some facts to 2) and feel that author is currently 2 separate authors. The articles on Ohio excavations belong to this person, Thomas W. Porter:
http://www.cr.nps.gov/mwac/hopewell/v4n1/one.htm
“a trove of manuscripts, maps, and artifact drawings in the Porter Collection, Local History Department, Grand Rapids Public Library. These documents had been created by Grand Rapids residents who had known the mounds most of their lives and were eyewitnesses to their destruction (Demeter and Robinson 1999)… There were also pencil drawings of artifacts (many rendered 1:1), including complete and restored pottery vessels from the mounds, many accompanied by date and provenience information. These had all been done by Thomas W. Porter, a local sign painter who possessed a fair artistic talent….Porter's drawings of other sherds reveal a Late Woodland period of occupation.”
https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/1811/55999/OHIO_ARCHAEOLOGIST_10_4_OC...
Tom Porter, RR#2, Frankfort, Ohio

I want to add another book (O:nenhste corn) by Thomas R. Porter (Sakokwenionkwas-“The One Who Wins”) but since the book doesn't exist in the database, want to know before I start how to be sure I'm getting the correct Tom Porter. He is listed as simply Tom Porter, and that is how he is known in his community, so not sure that using Thomas R. will help anyone, altho using Sakokwenionkwas will certainly clarify. This is another North American Travelling College publication, but this time it specifies "written by Tom Porter"

118MarthaJeanne
Jan 10, 2014, 11:48 am

If you just enter the author as Tom Porter, you can the go to the edit the division page and say where the book belongs. There you can also change the books that are wrong to another (or a new) author by that name.

119fdholt
Jan 10, 2014, 11:50 am

#117 I did the original work on the page and depended on OCLC's WorldCat. Librarians can make mistakes so please correct as you see best.

120juniperSun
Jan 10, 2014, 1:32 pm

>118 MarthaJeanne: Thank you for changing his name. And meanwhile I found another Tom Porter at the bottom with that book, so I was able to assign it to the correct person & add it to my collection.
>119 fdholt: It was logical, based on topic. Changes done. Added a new disambiguation to cover the new person.

121Africansky1
Jan 10, 2014, 2:07 pm

Please assist me with ensuring that the 2 titles World Furniture one edited by Riley and other edited by Hayward are treated as separate books World Furniture .Many thanks They show up in my catalogue as different versions of the same book .

122r.orrison
Jan 10, 2014, 2:31 pm

I see in your catalog one copy of World Furniture: Illustrated History from Earliest Times by Hayward, Helena (http://www.librarything.com/work/399714/83640467) and two copies of World Furniture by Riley, Noel (http://www.librarything.com/work/191354/83717255 and http://www.librarything.com/work/191354/105130289). As far as I can tell, they look right.

123lottpoet
Jan 10, 2014, 10:13 pm

There is a book called My Real Name is Lisa listed as by David Alexander. I removed the book from under the wrong David Alexander (moved from #2 to #18), but now I don't know how to have it show up with the correct David Alexander (David M. Alexander's) books. David M. Alexander who wrote Fane is the same who wrote My Real Name is Lisa. I thought I needed to alias the David Alexander (18), but I couldn't figure out how to do that.

124Nicole_VanK
Jan 11, 2014, 1:03 am

>123 lottpoet:: Done. You were on the right track, but for aliasing you must use the name as it appears in the address for the author page: alexanderdavidm

125Africansky1
Jan 11, 2014, 7:07 am

122 thank you so much I did not realize that I had two copies of the one title

126lottpoet
Jan 11, 2014, 9:05 am

>124 Nicole_VanK:: Thanks so much!

127Lyndatrue
Edited: Jan 12, 2014, 3:08 pm

This is one that's beyond my fledgling skills.

I noticed that a cover suggested to me for an Ace Double I own was for the work of one of the authors, and not the same book.

http://www.librarything.com/work/515841 is an Ace Double (Vintage Ace Double; H-95), with two authors, Sutton and Simak.

In the list of Editions, here, I see enough multiples to not be confident that I'm doing the right thing (or not) when combining or separating (or even which I should be doing).

http://www.librarything.com/work/515841/editions/104090351

Rather than do it wrong, I'd prefer to leave it to more experienced hands. The disambiguation should probably read:

"This work is an Ace Double (H-95), and should not be combined with either Jeff Sutton's The Man Who Saw Tomorrow or Clifford Simak's So Bright the Vision."

Thanks in advance.

(It may be that it confuses LT because the first title entry of a book always seems to win, even though, in this case, the way I have them listed was the way they were originally published, with Jeff Sutton as the first author, and Simak as the second)

128MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jan 12, 2014, 3:37 pm

No. That work was the single volume So Bright the Vision, with a few double editions in it by mistake. I think I have removed them. They have been combined into http://www.librarything.com/work/2634332 which was (and still is) the ace double.

BTW do not use the link for your copy above, as it still has the old work number and will create a confused page.

I have added a disambiguaion to the single work. The double one already had one.

129Lyndatrue
Jan 12, 2014, 4:21 pm

Thank you, MJ, as always. :-}

130Lyndatrue
Edited: Jan 17, 2014, 3:28 pm

I seem to be at a familiar impasse, and not able to repair it.

I added a work which two other members also have, and seem to have made a mistake somewhere.

http://www.librarything.com/work/11041126/book/105293039

MIL-STD-1553 Designer's Guide

I see that only two members (neither of them me) are listed as having copies, and there's the odd problem I've seen before, where a review is noted off to the left, but not acknowledged in the header at the top. I suppose that's because of the odd status with respect to whether or not it's in my library.

I wonder if I will ever get the hang of this...

Thanks in advance for the assistance.

131Jarandel
Jan 17, 2014, 4:04 pm

>130 Lyndatrue: For some reason that work link above didn't point to your copy, but to 2 other existing ones yours didn't merge with, presumably because you initially entered it with a blank author, they're merged now.

132AbigailAdams26
Jan 18, 2014, 11:04 am

I've just added an Indian children's novel entitled "Star Struck," and notice that it seems to be combined with a western novel of the same name. Not sure how to separate:

http://www.librarything.com/work/3896379/summary/105341195

The book I entered was ISBN 8189884794, and is by Subhadra Sen Gupta, but there seem to be images from a number of different Star Struck titles on that page, and they all seem jumbled together. Thanks for any help.

133.Monkey.
Edited: Jan 18, 2014, 11:10 am

>132 AbigailAdams26: Fixing now. Can you tell me if "(Foxy Four, #2)" fits with the book you read? That one has the same ISBN...

134moonshineandrosefire
Jan 18, 2014, 11:13 am

I was just adding a book to my collection and noticed that the work details of it are wrong. I also accidentally marked it as a spam work (according to the guidelines, it's not, so is there any way for me to fix that?) I might as well turn this problem over to the experts :) lol!

The book that I trying to add was this one: http://www.librarything.com/work/1209982/book/105340966. Does it need to be separated? I tried to see if I could edit the work details, but it doesn't look like I can do that. Someone please help?

135AbigailAdams26
Jan 18, 2014, 11:16 am

Hi PolymathicMonkey: yes, my title is the second in the Foxy Four series.

136.Monkey.
Edited: Jan 18, 2014, 11:32 am

>135 AbigailAdams26: Thanks, those should be set now. :)

>134 moonshineandrosefire: You can't edit the details of a work, but you can edit the details of any book in your library. Can you clarify what, exactly, the problem was, what you were trying to do?
ETA
I've separated out the PS Browns from the children's editions.

137AbigailAdams26
Jan 18, 2014, 11:50 am

Thanks for the help!

138moonshineandrosefire
Edited: Jan 18, 2014, 12:34 pm

#135 - Thanks so much! The books just needed to be separated, I guess :) I have the Kindle book version in my collection, (by P. S. Brown) and when I added that book through Amazon (by the ASIN), the children's book's work details (with that popular book cover) came up, along with the the information for the P. S. Brown book (with P.S. Brown's book cover shown).

Apparently, Rebecca Brown and Sue Carey are the authors of this book: http://www.librarything.com/work/1239949 as well as the Hide and Seek (beginning literacy) book

139.Monkey.
Jan 18, 2014, 12:26 pm

Ah, yeah, ASIN isn't a measure that LT uses, the system only differentiates books by ISBN, title, and author. When two match, it combines. And in that case, the author unfortunately also happens to be a "Brown," so, the system got a little mixed up.

140moonshineandrosefire
Jan 18, 2014, 12:52 pm

So, how would I add Kindle Books - just by the Title with ebook at the end? That's what I usually do; but if the title that I have doesn't show up, I'll try the ASIN. Sometimes ebooks don't have a digital ISBN, so I'm not sure what to use (I try to use manual entry sparingly) Thank you very much for your help, Polymathic Monkey! :)

141.Monkey.
Jan 18, 2014, 3:29 pm

Right, ASINs are simply Amazon identifying numbers, so ebooks from other places won't have them. You don't need to use any number for them. You can note ebook in the title if you'd like to, but you don't have to. An ebook edition is still combined with any paper editons that may exist. You can search by title and simply edit your book to the data of your copy (removing the ISBN where it doesn't have one).

You're welcome, it's what we're here for. :)

142prosfilaes
Jan 20, 2014, 12:44 am

The Selected Poems of Charles Baudelaire is a mess. http://www.librarything.com/work/328432/ and http://www.librarything.com/work/259547 both include copies with ISBN 0140421882 and copies that look to be from separate editions. That ISBN includes poems from both the Flowers of Evil and the Wreckage. I don't know what to separate and what to combine.

144.Monkey.
Jan 20, 2014, 6:32 pm

I combined them except http://www.librarything.com/work/6910646, just want to double check that enough of the content is the same in the "revised edition" (with slightly altered title) that it belongs combined? Easier combined later than uncombined, and I'm off to bed, so if they belong together I'm sure someone else will get to it before I get up tomorrow. :)

145prosfilaes
Jan 21, 2014, 12:46 am

#142: I've shuffled them into a pile that includes the Dover Thrift Editions and a pile that includes both Penguin Classics editions--they have different translators, but I don't know if they have a different selection of poems. (Probably.)--with each pile containing extraneous stuff.

146TheoClarke
Jan 21, 2014, 11:47 am

>144 .Monkey.: I merged the revised edition in with the original. "For the most part, the new version of Your Money or Your Life is unchanged from the previous versions. There are quite a few updated statistics throughout and some of the cultural allusions have been modernized or changed. " Chapter six and the last chapter have been rewritten.

148MarthaJeanne
Jan 24, 2014, 11:34 pm

147>Done.

149bluepiano
Jan 25, 2014, 1:52 pm

http://www.librarything.com/work/13794248
http://www.librarything.com/work/5866818
http://www.librarything.com/work/3640188
http://www.librarything.com/work/2414175
http://www.librarything.com/work/3613565
http://www.librarything.com/work/5845876

I'm all but certain that these are exactly the same; the geographical society presented an account with journal excerpts from three of the authors listed in some entries. (I know how to combine the geographical society listings at least, but the search box doesn't allow for so long an author name . . . ) Thank you.

150MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jan 25, 2014, 4:44 pm

I think I got them all. There is another in Swedish? on the author page. Do you want to combine that too?

BTW with things like this, the easiest is to chose one author, add it to all the others and then combine from the author page. You have to go back afterwards and delete all the extra authors out again. It doesn't really matter if the author you use ends up as the main author or not.

151JerryMmm
Jan 25, 2014, 2:12 pm

I'm busy atm, but found this:

http://www.librarything.com/catalog/AcmStruga&deepsearch=alb

probably ALB means albanian translations. But they should be combined with the main works obviously. Anyone has some time to tackle a few of these?

152MarthaJeanne
Jan 25, 2014, 4:51 pm

I think we've got them all.

153JerryMmm
Jan 25, 2014, 5:46 pm

Good work

154moonshineandrosefire
Jan 25, 2014, 11:21 pm

Hello again, everyone :) I'm currently reading Family Affairs by Andy Hoffman. However, the touchstones come up with the wrong author's name It says that Family Affairs - at least the book that I'm reading - was written by David Hoffman. The correct cover is there, and I've added the book to my library written by Andy Hoffman - but the touchstones for Andy Hoffman doesn't have Family Affairs on his bibliography. I hope that this isn't too confusing for you, but thank you for your patience.

155omargosh
Jan 26, 2014, 12:22 am

#154 by @moonshineandrosefire>
The "editions" for that work show 3 copies by Andy Hoffman, and 7 by David Hoffman so the majority is winning out, hence the touchstone issue and the work not showing up on Andy's page. I don't see an indication in WorldCat that there is also a co-author/translator/etc. named David, so my first assumption is that it's just an Amazon bad data issue, but they're showing Andy. Maybe it was recently reported and fixed? Anyway, this case can probably just be fixed by overriding the primary author in the "Add/edit other authors" part of the work page.

156henkl
Jan 26, 2014, 2:27 am

#155 by @omargosh> this case can probably just be fixed by overriding the primary author in the "Add/edit other authors" part of the work page

Which is what I did.

157Jarandel
Edited: Jan 26, 2014, 7:15 am

> 151, 152 That user also has a number of books with "MKD" appended at the end of the title, a number of which look like singletons of relatively popular books.

158JerryMmm
Jan 26, 2014, 7:40 am

159MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jan 26, 2014, 8:19 am

Is it an advantage or disadvantage that these works lead to other problems? There is a lot more work to do at http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=robertsnora, but the list is hard to go through on this computer. There are several more numbered books to combine as well as translations.

160omargosh
Jan 26, 2014, 6:34 pm

#159 by @MarthaJeanne> Is it an advantage or disadvantage that these works lead to other problems?

If you're talking about the problem that working on one thing in LT always leads to working on five other things, I suffer too. :-)

161jasbro
Jan 28, 2014, 11:10 am

{GRIN}

162moonshineandrosefire
Jan 28, 2014, 6:34 pm

#155 and #156 - Thank you both for your help! :)

163SkuldOMG
Jan 29, 2014, 2:45 am

Please combine
http://www.librarything.com/work/14519939/summary/
and
http://www.librarything.com/work/14607143/summary

The book is called Line to Night Island, not Line to Night Stand. Strangely however, only the second link is listed as part of the LT Early Reviewers batch. Thanks a lot in advance!

164MarthaJeanne
Jan 29, 2014, 3:20 am

This would be easy evough to do from the author page, but I'm going to report it to Lorranen instead.

165lorannen
Jan 29, 2014, 9:06 am

>163 SkuldOMG:, 164 All set! Thanks for the heads-up, MarthaJeanne!

166LolaWalser
Jan 29, 2014, 1:20 pm

Could someone please help with this author:

http://www.librarything.com/author/alljalusaynibnmanr&recalculate=1&chec...

So, it's al-Husayn ibn Mansur Hallaj and all the permutations thereof one can imagine. So far so good. But, I'd really like to combine it with "Hallaj", which is how he's referred to most often.

Only, "Hallaj", for some weird reason, seems to be conflated with "A. J. Hall" (Hallaj= Hall, a. j., I suppose) and I can't get rid of the darn A. J. Hall.

Anyone?

And could you also please combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/5998658/editions (attributed to A. J. Hall, although the person has it in catalogue attributed to Hallaj)

and http://www.librarything.com/work/11508803 (attributed to Hussein Mansour Al-Hallâj)

Thanks!

167Jarandel
Edited: Jan 29, 2014, 1:39 pm

>166 LolaWalser: Default URL for an author is lastnamefirstname (or initials thereof), so hallaj "belongs" as much to the various A. J. Hall as to Hallaj, set the author of the poem collection to "Al-Hallâj, Hussein Mansour" so it showed up under the current main author page here http://www.librarything.com/author/alljalusaynibnmanr

168LolaWalser
Jan 29, 2014, 1:45 pm

Ahhh, the default! LOL! Geez, then this must be happening more often too...

Thanks, Jarandel!

169SkuldOMG
Jan 29, 2014, 4:05 pm

>165 lorannen: thanks a lot!

170AbigailAdams26
Edited: Jan 30, 2014, 5:21 am

I need help separating two annuals, with the same title (but different dates), and the same first author. Unfortunately, when I got to separate them, they aren't listed under that author. They are Blackie's Girls' Annual (1927) and Blackie's Girls' Annual (1929):

http://www.librarything.com/work/9646236/book/105672623

http://www.librarything.com/work/9646236/book/98831475

Thanks for the help!

171AnnieMod
Jan 30, 2014, 5:41 am

>170 AbigailAdams26:
Done. And all of them neatly showing under http://www.librarything.com/author/joannatalie

172AbigailAdams26
Jan 30, 2014, 6:09 am

Thank you, AnnieMod!

173humouress
Jan 31, 2014, 5:37 am

I have three books in my library by a fairly popular author, Ursula K. Le Guin, (The Earthsea Quartet, Tales from Earthsea and The Other Wind) which all show up under different authors, with the surname listed variously as Guin, LeGuin and (correctly) Le Guin. Therefore, they are all in different places in 'my library', instead of next to each other.

I would appreciate it if someone could amend the author names. I assume this is the right place to come to?

174MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jan 31, 2014, 5:50 am

For the author name in your library, you have to edit the author names yourself. The work data is correct, it is your personal data that is wrong, and noone else can touch it. you can edit from the work pages or by double clicking on the field in your catalgue.

BTW, this is the disadvantage of using Amazon as a source. Library data is usually much better.

175Jarandel
Edited: Jan 31, 2014, 5:52 am

>173 humouress:,174 You need to edit the authors as they appear on your individual works (accessed by "edit your book", one of the links to the top left when on the work page), not the feature half-way up the page that alters it for everyone.

176humouress
Edited: Jan 31, 2014, 7:04 am

I can edit the book from the author field in 'my library'; no problem.

But since (I assume) I entered it the usual way, by typing in the ISBN in 'Add Books' etc., won't this be the same problem for everyone else with the same works?

ETA: over the years I've added Library of Congress, Overcat, National Library of Scotland, Talis Union Catalog, National Library of Australia and British Library (powered by Talis) as sources, but - unfortunately - sometimes I can only find books in Amazon.

177henkl
Jan 31, 2014, 7:18 am

#176 by @humouress> It depends on which source they are using. Amazon is generally bad.

178.Monkey.
Jan 31, 2014, 7:26 am

>176 humouress: Other users' data will only ever be identical to yours if they have added the exact edition from the same source and have not edited anything on it. The first thing I do when adding a book is to click "edit" and fix the title so it's not "sentence case" and fix the edition data how I want it and fix any errors/missing data. This is what the majority of us do, only those who don't care about ratty data will leave things as they are on import.

If Amazon is the only source, I add manually. It's not worth it to use such a junky source, in my (and many other users') opinion. It's easier and better data to simply do a manual add.

179humouress
Jan 31, 2014, 8:15 am

OK. I actually assumed that, whatever source one uses, the data is as it is on LibraryThing.

180.Monkey.
Jan 31, 2014, 9:06 am

I'm not really sure what you mean by that. The data on LT is what is in each user's catalog...

181jjwilson61
Jan 31, 2014, 9:46 am

The source really is the source for the data, not LT.

182MarthaJeanne
Jan 31, 2014, 9:52 am

LT gets its data from the members catalogues, not the other way around.

183Pepys
Jan 31, 2014, 12:07 pm

Hello there! I'm just back from the Victor Hugo page where I fixed a couple of things.
But there are at least 2 big mistakes with
- Candide (Voltaire)
- Gargantua (Rabelais)
which are included in the midst of Hugo's works... (How can it happen?)

And I don't know what to do with that...

Could somebody tell me what to do if ever it's not too complicated? Or otherwise fix it?

184LolaWalser
Jan 31, 2014, 12:25 pm

Candide and Gargantua appear on the list because some of these editions have something by Hugo added in them. In other words, now ALL the works that contain something authored by Hugo appear on Hugo's list, not just his own titles.

I don't much like it myself, it adds to the clutter on the very prolific, very popular author pages, but there are some good reasons for doing it (overview, for instance).

185Pepys
Jan 31, 2014, 12:45 pm

Ah, all right, then. Though it is strange to see this. As you say, there are enough works by Hugo without adding oddities like this.
Sorry, I should have investigated myself.

186LolaWalser
Jan 31, 2014, 12:57 pm

Not at all, I remember having the same question when it first appeared. It's a function of the "Other authors" and/or "Other roles" improvement, I think.

187AbigailAdams26
Edited: Jan 31, 2014, 1:05 pm

I need some help recombining the work of German picture-books artist Daniela Drescher. I saw that someone had incorrectly combined the English language "In the Land of Elves" with "Kommt mit ins Elfenland," probably assuming that since the words were similar, it was the same title. Actually though, "Kommt mit ins Elfenland" is the original German title of "In the Land of Fairies." I separated out "In the Land of Elves" from "Kommt mit ins Elfenland," and then combined "Elves" with "Komm mit ins Reich der Zwerge" (the correct original German edition), but now, when I go to combine "In the Land of Fairies" with "Kommt kit ins Elfenland," I can't find the latter! Here's the combine page:

http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=drescherdaniela

Where did they go? Is it just a question of waiting a bit? Thanks for any clarification.

188connie53
Jan 31, 2014, 1:08 pm

My LeGuin books have LeGuin (no space between the words) on the cover. So that might be part of the problem.

189AbigailAdams26
Jan 31, 2014, 1:41 pm

Disregard #187 above! I just had to wait a few minutes, for them to show up in the list again!

190AbigailAdams26
Jan 31, 2014, 1:49 pm

Hi: another request for separation help: and I really have no idea how to proceed, in this case. It looks like Astrid Lindgren's picture-books, "The Tomten," which takes as its starting point a poem by Viktor Rydberg of that name, has been combined with a completely separate prose story by Rydberg, called "The Christmas Tomten" ("Lille Viggs äventyr på julafton" in the original Swedish). You can see the editions below. How can they be separated, as they are definitely not the same work?

http://www.librarything.com/work/378600/book/97254939

http://www.librarything.com/work/378600/book/97059712

191MarthaJeanne
Jan 31, 2014, 2:09 pm

190> I have taken out the Christmas Tomten which is now here http://www.librarything.com/work/14686113/editions
I also have http://www.librarything.com/work/14686127/editions which is 2 0-copy editions, both with the same author as the first work, but the work author is different !? Anyway I think they should be combined, but I can't do it.

I think there are still things that ought to come out of http://www.librarything.com/work/378600/editions, but am not sure, and don't have the time for research right now.

192JerryMmm
Jan 31, 2014, 2:13 pm

I don't know if someone already fixed it, but they actually are different works.

You kept the work number the same, possibly used an earlier copy of the url, that keeps the work number in it, and things go screwy that way.

Remove the /work from the url, that should bring you to your books regardless of which work it is associated with, then you can proceed to the work page. This should tell you which work it is combined in.

193MarthaJeanne
Jan 31, 2014, 2:14 pm

They really were together.

194AbigailAdams26
Jan 31, 2014, 2:27 pm

Thanks for the help!

195barney67
Jan 31, 2014, 10:59 pm

196omargosh
Feb 1, 2014, 12:02 am

#195 by @barney67>
Ok, I've moved the CK from the disambiguation page to cairnsscott-1. I usually do this by opening both pages in separate tabs and go back and forth cutting and pasting.

Also, for the future, might I ask that when starting splits, please leave at least some identifying information in the disambiguation message? Even just a birth year is great, but even if that's unknown (as in cairnsscott-2's case), anything tying them to an identity really helps for assigning the future unknowns. (Or even if the message is just "I know the Silver book isn't by Scott Cairns (1)" and you leave it split but only one one person, that's better, in my opinion, than a blank disambig with ambiguous assignments). Thanks, and stepping off my soapbox now. :-)

197jefbra
Feb 1, 2014, 3:48 pm

Hello

These are under Washington Irving http://www.librarything.com/work/12359649.

Would they not be With Mark Twain http://www.librarything.com/author/twainmark?

Thanks Jeff

198barney67
Feb 1, 2014, 3:53 pm

196 -- Okay, thanks for the help.

199MarthaJeanne
Feb 1, 2014, 4:03 pm

197> Washington Irving is listed as a contributor. Mark Twain is the main author.

200gangleri
Feb 2, 2014, 3:13 am

Hi! I need to leave. Please fix the level combinations for
http://www.librarything.com/author/albaulta
http://www.librarything.com/author/albaultandre&norefer=2 is combined also. Thanks for any help in advance!

201gangleri
Feb 3, 2014, 11:53 am

>200 gangleri: Thanks for the help! Is there any way to recover the links? I mean http://www.librarything.com/author/albaultandre dos not show any links.

202jasbro
Edited: Feb 3, 2014, 1:07 pm

> 200, @gangleri: I'm unsure what you mean by "Please fix the level combinations ... ." Is this taken care of, or can you elaborate (perhaps in our continuation thread, http://www.librarything.com/topic/168786 )? Thank you!

203jasbro
Feb 3, 2014, 1:06 pm

This thread is CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #61 -- http://www.librarything.com/topic/168786 . Thank you!